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What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
>Community Resources
Hitokaku Index
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #art
>yoshikadu2011 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUx5dpO6d5gQ4KWNPc24CKw
FellowBro's Book Collection
Tutorial & Reference Collection
Japanese Tutorials & Documentary
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317 (0033)

>> No.4998897

reminds me of invader zim but less appealing

>> No.4998899
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>> No.4998901

why is he smoking a flaccid pencil dick?

>> No.4998904


Because normal cigarettes were not delivered to his country.

>> No.4998916

Real talk a lot of people here seem to think they know what they are talking about but the majority of what you post is garbage. The few talented people here are viciously attacked proportionally yo how good they are, (jace, kyle etc). Do you really think that anyone should take the criticism here seriously when you're all so terrible?

>> No.4998923

Why are you so bitter? I doubt most people here take this board seriously, it's just a place to shitpost and get some (you)s.

>> No.4998926

Also who the fuck smokes like that? Someone who’s never smoked before?

>> No.4998930

Idk what your basing your assumption that I'm personally embittered on. My question was pretty straightforward.

>> No.4999110
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>> No.4999114

You still suck at rendering asukafag, unless you master that hidden Kekkei Genkai your art won’t pop.

>> No.4999207

that's how they smoke in europe

>> No.4999216

No it’s not I’m in Europe

>> No.4999238

This thread, the skill level of the 4chan artist in one image.

>> No.4999251

what do u mean
pls give normal critique

>> No.4999352

Stopped reading there.
Expunge yourself. Vamoose.
Little BITCH.

>> No.4999359
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can we just post art...?

>> No.4999376

Don't let the faggots drag you down.
Just keep going and refining what you think needs improvement.
There are little imperfections here and there, your outlines might need more weight if that might be what you're going for.
The most obvious mistake upon further inspection, is her right leg; You didn't need to put it in such a perspective.
The angle/pov isn't that extreme that you need to make them half the size of the other leg.
What i'm basically saying that the leg is disproportionate.
Render isn't really a bother and that's just about taste more than anything.
Just keep going, you'll get there the more you draw.

>> No.4999385

thank you
>Don't let the faggots drag you down.
i dunno where you guys get this, i receive so much love and support from so many people..
yes all of those things are true I see now that I got very lazy and did not keep a consistent effort everywhere, besides structural problems of course
the way I try to do lineart is also a hit or miss and my big struggle
but I have a big drive now, finally I devised a style that I like and want to pursue which is more painterly and vibrant colors
also the characters must always do something, right now it's eating
(I am stealing this from artist Navigavi)

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if you want to successfully copy navigavi, you need to exaggerate a little on the eating part and make it appealing.
>cute big titty anime grill eating a fat piece of meat
appealing thus to give the character you're portraying, a personality through the act.
A chip on the other hand, would be something delicate, exaggerate on that.

>> No.4999652

Too many clashing saturated colors

>> No.4999750
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I keep trying to draw arms, but none of the poses I'm making look right, does anyone have any ideas on what I should do/doing wrong? I think my main problem is that I don't even know what I want them to look like, I'm just guessing lol. I'm happy with the legs and head at least

>> No.4999790

It's good but use blur tool sometimes

>> No.4999793

or finger tip tool

>> No.4999855
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/beg/ post. I know i fucked up the lower body and I dont know how to render properly, but atleast Im noticing good progress in my work

>> No.5000318
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ok bros and what about this

>> No.5000329

Your colors are always muddy, unappealing because you have saturated them excessively, and you're also in limbo between a clash of east and west style mashup which almost always ends horribly wrong. You also need to know the difference between a Male and Female Torso as well as the subtle differences between the hands. A rule of thumb is for Males use square forms and females oval/spherical forms to compliment the sexes between masculine and feminine. Also, to our Resident Tranny you will never be a Woman.

>> No.5000437

cute wife

>> No.5000448
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Decided to keep working on this

>> No.5000453

is that a fucking sonic oc

>> No.5000458

how do i get as good as you bro

>> No.5000461
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I don't even know if this is any use to you but here. Color is somewhat subjective. I just think you need more of some kind of driving idea behind your choices. Unity. I went the most boring route possible and unified by shifting everything toward blue-violet. I wouldn't use these myself, it's just an example of what you could do to get more harmony. Main thing you could do instantly would be to desaturate the background heavily, though it doesn't have to be white. Being so orange and similar to the character's colors, it's competing with her.

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Why are you all so terrible?

>> No.5000481

this is a darkstalker character actually, asukafag didn't choose the palette

>> No.5000484

yeah I posted it in the furry general

surround yourself with better artists and practice

>> No.5000491

Did you even check what the image would look like in B&W?
asukafag step up your color and value game cause your shit looks like an eyesore.

>> No.5000493
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True, but you can still choose your palette, it doesn't have be color picked from official art. Red will look red relative to blue, for example.

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Here's another interpretation of this character. The artist didn't do anything that wild in terms of color. He just made the background the same color as the red in Lilith's costume, and put in some almost lost edges around the bat wings. That's another way of achieving unity.

>> No.5000499

idk what to say man, you got me fucked up
the advice is good, i just thought you didn't know about the character

>> No.5000506


>> No.5000524

It's cute and get its job done, but on a technical side, the pose is somewhat stiff and the spaghett looks like a toy.
What i would have done is to present the food and have the noodles coming from behind the plate. I also would've choosen to make her face the "camera" so to speak, for more appeal.
Such orange for a bg is pretty intense but it's honestly alright.

>> No.5000634

You insult my art again and I will throatfuck your mother.

>> No.5000641

You fail at pretending to be him, try harder next time :)

>> No.5000667

You should consider shape design when painting imo. The vids explain it better than i can

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Dropped my overpaint

>> No.5000690

Its worse

>> No.5000705
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Heres the finished version. I feel like my faces are still kinda ugly though.

>> No.5000906

Come on guys let's hear it, be consistent. Rip this guy a new asshole. Surely you can all see the problems with this right?

>> No.5000915

Lol no, crabs only get upset when someone is better than them.

>> No.5000947

You're getting there. Dont give up

>> No.5000957

thanks bros I will redraw it with your advice

>> No.5000967

These are the people on ic are giving critiques on drawing anime faces lmao.

>> No.5000968
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I think I'll attempt colouring this

>> No.5000969

stop chicken scratching. just do that and your work would instantly look much better.

>> No.5000986

I love cats, god bless you anon.

>> No.5001015

what is more important?

clean lineart or clean rendering?

>> No.5001017
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sketch for attempt #2

>> No.5001021

Just paint over your messy lines.

>> No.5001191

I 've literally never given anyone critique outside of what books are good to study. Dont be a dick

>> No.5001197
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Working on this atm.

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>> No.5001206

How do you practice?

>> No.5001211

By shitposting and crabbing on /ic/ instead of drawing

>> No.5001397

>redrawing it because you got crabbed

>> No.5001429

Please mirror your drawings

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attempt #2 update

>> No.5001449

>when u are so good none of the waman in here can say shit about it

>> No.5001494

Asukafag is the new whitebox with all these wips

>> No.5001497

ok sorry ill wait for the next thread

>> No.5001505

maybe you could do a collage of your steps

>> No.5001611

It's definitely better but maybe refine the cheek a little as it stands too much out. You can go with a little puffy cheeks on both sides.

>> No.5001705

where's the difference?

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Anons, tell me what's going on here and what's going to happen and i'll draw the next scene.

>> No.5001717

Who did the overpaint made the hair more stylized with cutouts on the lights instead of leaving the visible brush strokes.
The irony is, he/she also shat on the neck.

>> No.5001757

looks good

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any thoughts? first time posting here

excuse the unfunny meme, please

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i hope it at least has soul

>> No.5002147

Gretchen and Nadia are friends. Lately, their bond has become strained, and Nadia hasn’t been pulling her weight lately. Nadia might disappear if she keeps this up, shrink away. Gretchen leads their midnight jaunt to Fish World USA for a last ditch solution.

I like,how,you went through many adjustments for a good result.

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is the colouring a good investment of my time or am I just getting diminishing returns here?

>> No.5002185

I love it.

>> No.5002195

It's good. Good job.

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I would encourage ya'll to do more of these (these are awfull btw but you get the idea) It's essential to be more patient and investigative during inital phase, do a bunch of these or even simpler ones, take a pause, come back to it, look at them, do some more, add complexity, anatomy, shading, secondary things later...

You chose an angle I almost allways try to avoid, it's boring, simetrical and gives poor silhouette.

>> No.5002335

But that anon told me to draw her facing the camera :(

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This is all you have to do instead of posting seven different times with each little update that you never change a thing from. From now on flip the canvas before asking us something stupid.

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If you want to do nice colored stuff then yeah sure.
I want to do monochrome/ink stuff, so that's what I draw

>> No.5002417

It's fine for such a simple image. You'd need to apply those things if you want to draw more complex illustrations than a character doing a thing in a void.

>> No.5002418
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Dude you posted so many Liliths that you made me want to draw Lilith

Fucking bats on stockings! These are worse than stars projected on non-planar surfaces. I tried to draw them really fat with lots of meat on their bones for that anon that said i draw anorexic coke whores.

They are so obese now... I couldn’t make them any fatter if i tried...

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Ah, sorry, i didn't see the initial talk.
Ok, in this case the idea would be to be as clear as possible and to try avoid lines being paralel with the frame.
Tilt the head, tilt the shoulders, show the head bent forward more clearly etc. These are standard tricks to avoid boring images. Do you see it in my sketch? And be careful aout the shading, rule of thimb, if shading is making the image unclear or breaking the figure then minimise it. Don't be afraid to be simple.

>> No.5002457

If I say it's the cutest most soulful thing, will you move on?

>> No.5002473
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Serous question, what is it about some peoples art that make every single person in /alt/ feel like they need to post their opinion when the rest of the thread has like 0 (you)s?

Every now and again someone will come to /alt/ and become the center of attention for weeks. Its nothing OR a massive dogpile in this place every time.

>> No.5002480

The 4chan algorithm promotes certain posts so that they get more (You)s and the algorithm hides other posts so they nobody sees them except for (You)

>> No.5002481

Maybe it's something to do with the way he relentlessly continues to post every time he adds a stroke and continue to pester everyone for feedback that he already got.

>> No.5002487

Dairenke is this board personified. He obeys everything they tell them to do, he gets into every artist this board starts spamming, into every trend this board hypes, every trick, etc. It's like an AI trying to make it purely from advice from this board. I guess people give him lots of advice because he does listen.

>> No.5002490

I'm the guy that did the suggestion sketches of the girl eating noodles, i was bored so i gave it a go, i recognize where he is and i thought to push him a little in a direction where drawing is more fun, loose and not so much about rendering which seems to be the focus and an obstacle for a lot of beginners. I guess, dunno

Fiddling with rendering won't make your drawing better guys, trust an anon will ya!

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I do periodically come to the major threads and try to help whoever is desperate for some feedback.
Anons just need a push to be able to stand on their own legs.
It usually works out and they don't need the threads that badly anymore.
Also it really depends on the work; if i can see the original vision and the potential of the image, i will help. If the image is alright on it's own, there is no need to intervene.
And by helping, you yourself might learn a few things.
Other anons might feel the same.
Well, it's better to get along like this than constantly shit and crab on each other.

>> No.5002578
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is it weird to use crayons?

>> No.5002644

Any tips on drawing knights, chainmail, plate armour, blades, etc?

>> No.5002723

ok but why didnt you do it to anyone else in this thread, why have you NEVER done up until now when everyone else was giving this guy advice?

I honestly think there is something about (you)s that make other anons want to give (you)s as well.

>> No.5002727

ok but this: >>5002723

Like 30 other anons posting art in this thread you choose the guy getting the most (you)s. Happens in every /ic/ thread

>> No.5002814

There's a "put me in the screencap" effect, and everybody knows it. Not just here but in life. People act after others.
Still, asuka anon posts often, specifically requests critique, and actually responds to it.
I've redlined others before, if they request critique/help and are reasonably specific about their problem. But too often anons are vague or want you to redraw the whole picture for them, if they ask for help at all.

Here's some advice on requesting...advice. If you actually want help, put in a little work yourself. Know what *you* want first. Ideally include a drawing or reference showing what you're trying to achieve in your own work, but if not that, at least be as specific as possible. The more specific you are, the more likely someone will help, because a) less work is more manageable and b) they don't have to read your mind regarding your intentions.

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I knew this was coming and let me tell (you), it's because of this childish narcissistic shit you're doing.
>"why did you (you) him and not ME?!"
All the critique is free of charge and for all to see. You could read and learn from the mistakes of others, but you only care about the attention and now you're crying why YOU don't get replies on your work.
I don't get replies on my work either, but i don't care. I don't expect strangers on the internet to pamper to me because i have insecurity issues.
>why didnt you do it to anyone else in this thread
>implying i'm only helping asukafag
You fucking disgust me.
Take the (you) and gtfo my board.

>> No.5002889

Please don't seethe because you are now embarrassed that someone pointed out how hard you follow the crowd. That post had lots of (you)s so you couldn't help but add yours, lets not make this into something it isn't. "WELL ACTUALLY" posts like yours are cringe as fuck.

Life lesson: The harder you protest the more obvious it becomes to everyone around you.

>> No.5002896

>oohh seethe cringe haha if you disagree with me i win
Are you done?

>> No.5002920

You will reply to this post too. Because thats who you are

>> No.5002935

Don't you find it strange that you get (you)s so easily like this but your work doesn't get any?
hmm strange indeed.

>> No.5002981
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Not /salt/ enough so I'll just leave this here.

I always have trouble drawing female torsos from the side because I can never figure out how much of the front should be shown. I can draw it fine from ref but not from memory.

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Feeling like a fraud so I wanted to put in the extra work but now I'm unhappy. I gotta redo it, I really need to work on the pose, it's supposed to be a low angle but it's hard. I feel like it's coming out boring. Also less detail, too much and the style is lost I think.

>> No.5003032

not at all
...if youre a baby hehe

>> No.5003038

Jesus man

I've seen some terrible things on /ic/ but nothing like this

>> No.5003048

Unbelievably predictable, you are like an animal.

>> No.5003050

I want to diversify my style and get better at drawing anime but there's something about it that trips me up

>> No.5003053
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I'm studying this exact thing. I think this is what you're asking about? Anyway, not confident in some of this, like the lats. Look at Lauricella, he explains it better. Or just try to break down the shapes in a photo.

>> No.5003082

That's exactly it my guy thank you so much!

>> No.5003103

This always happens to me here because it's a garbage heap but I'm sort of on the top of it so whenever people see me succeed they get really really angry and bitter and they see that they just like to net picket anything that could possibly be wrong but in reality of achieved much Morris that externalization so their bitterness drives them to respond and shit post.

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More line of action(blue line), more perspective, foreshortening, more depth, more angles...

Work rough, don't rush into cleanup and detail

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>> No.5003393

how much u got paid

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He's the self insert of all the ngmi's. he takes all their bad advice and takes it seriously, so of course he's loved, and of course he hasn't made any progress in a year.

>> No.5003454

Whats up mikufag

>> No.5003493
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Thanks anon. An attempt will be made, I was working to exhaustion yesterday hopefully rested eyes will do a better job.

>> No.5003579

Hey anon, no prob, glad to offer some ideas.. You're already doing better but watch the hands and arms, I'm always careful to avoid mirroring in figure drawing, the hands are posed the same, and visually at the same level forming a pretty static triangle shape with the head. Go for more asymmetric relationships if you want the image to be dynamic.

>> No.5003642

What are some of the books you've recommended?

>> No.5003686

Well, he was posting and reposting the same drawing, kept redrawing it. It kept popping up and caught my attention while i was scrolling i guess.

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i tried to use an ultra saturated bg from the start and work the palette with it, since i have issues where I always just throw random colors in the bg after a generic render job

values look acceptable to me when greyscaled but i still dont feel right with the color choices, especially with the annoying stripes

>> No.5003875

look at the thumbnail and squint your eyes, do you see how the body blends into the background? It's tonally too close to bg. Try and separate them more. Probably only changing the stripes on the dress will suffice.

>> No.5003879

and the stripes are showing the volume and perspective, i wouldn't lose them.

>> No.5003884

I actually kind of like the lack of smooth blending. It looks really graphic.

>> No.5003889

This is so freakin cute, but I agree with the other anon, the body blends too much.

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Thank you, I had a lot of troubles juggling trying to make the dress look accurate vs keeping it from contrasting too hard and drawing attention away from the face.

I feel like my color choices with the flats were better, but my inclusion of giant blue stripe down the middle kind of made it clash.

>> No.5003932

Better. Now post blog

>> No.5003946

Yeah, on this one you can really tell what's going on. Better witohout the stripe, background reads as one plane as it should. Don't be afraid to use wild colour choices, what is important is to have hierarchy of color, also known as color proportion. Red background contains all the rest of the colors in your picture and holds them together.

>> No.5004046

>They are so obese now... I couldn’t make them any fatter if i tried...
Read some Methonium's Fat Elf Manga, and then come back. For now we will just laugh at you. The only thing that looks, barely, okay is their thighs. Everything else is at best anorexic.

>> No.5004052

you have a very limiting style when it comes to bodytype diversity, and it kinda loses when it comes to sex appeal

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>> No.5004151

>telling someone someone to copy another artist to be successful
You are the personification of everything wrong with this board.

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I tried to go really heavy on the ink, too much? Not enough?

I also had to do some major facial reconstruction...

You have no idea how hard i tried to fatten them up. I was thinking fat thoughts the entire time.

What other female body types are there? I’ve been shortening torsos recently and trying to widen hips.

>> No.5004341

don't you have shitty lolis to draw, faggot?

>> No.5004405

Aww are you jealous of asukafag hogging the attention?

>> No.5004464

T. Feminine soul.

>> No.5004473

Literally What

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Not the other dudes, but i think the pics from olympic champs are nice examples, though they do all have boxy torsos

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/beg/ post. This was hard but fun

>> No.5004725

fucking hell look at all these monstrosities...

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Should have seen the male ones

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The fucking bats got me. I should have drawn them on after coloring since pencil layers over ink. Maybe i will do a redraw.

This is awesome - Thanks! Although i admit to only finding the basketball and high jumpers aesthetic... I’m sad that it looks like all the boobs and crotches are censored, but I will use my imagination.

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>> No.5004851

look alright, although you could've done better with the hands and arms, they really get lost in the drawing and are quite difficult to make sense of.

>> No.5004854
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I'm so fucking unconfident when it comes to my inking, I always feel like I'm just ruining the sketch that I was somewhat happy with.

>> No.5005064

This looks half-assed compared to your other works

>> No.5005073

This is great.
How the are these ‘’monstrosities’’? Are you a weeb?

And what’s wrong with this?

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>> No.5005220

in what ways?

>> No.5005322

Compare to the last thread op pic for instance

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>> No.5005350

i didnt render it as much since pokemons style is pretty simplistic

maybe next time ill just do whatever i want with it instead of try and clone it

>> No.5005358

Love your stuff man but I think this pic would look better if her head was tilted down slightly.

>> No.5005365

Don't the arms seems a little disproportionate?

>> No.5005368

Is that a bulge

>> No.5005441

Thanks and you think so? I'll try to slightly tilt her head then.

Yeah, they're. Gonna fix them later.


>> No.5005468

>do I like Mongolian cartoons
No, I have eyes. They all have comical proportions and/or man bods, very unattractive for women.
If you used these as refs for a feminine subject, you'd justifiably mocked.
Unless you're on Tumblr, or you're trying to draw an ogre.

Those aren't nearly as bad as the women tho. The guy farthest right is probably the worst out of them and you'd see 100x worse by entering any Walmart for 6 seconds.

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Alright anyways bros

a new approach to lineart
what do you think, is this gonna be better?

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>hmm i've been drawing shit for years
>what does grey sketch do
>i'll have me some of that

>> No.5005529

Looks great, blog?

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>> No.5005672

These are the people telling you how your anime face should look.

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What did he mean by this?

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>> No.5005682

If you don't decide your own path, you'll end up like these people.

>> No.5005685

Realism is for fags and boomers. Take the anime pill

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Fuckin hell anon, so proud of you, you're actually drawing!!!

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>> No.5005718

neat !

>> No.5005722

good work dai

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>> No.5005735

Polished like a true turd.

>> No.5005746

Here come the crabs

>> No.5005747

pls dont start that
i just want critique

>> No.5005752

People who respond with one line shitposts arent ever gonna give you critique. Its just piss in the water.
Im not good enough to give critique but she looks oddly sad for some reason

>> No.5005766

I feel like the chest has a bit of flat shading compared to the rest of her. Maybe darken the cleavage a bit on the bandages?

Other than that you could try having a bit of the pink light on her cheek but the overall looks great.

>> No.5005912

I love everything about this piece! <3333
good job, anon.

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>> No.5006047

this is so cute. is he in pain or is he just vibing while mushrooms happen to grow all over his body?

>> No.5006095

You have been given these critiques a countless number of times yet you haven't applied any of the critiques you've been receiving. Your colors are still muddy, saturated, you're still not decided whether you want to go East or West on your style of drawing and if you want to be in between you don't even have a constant style it's an ongoing powerstruggle between cutesy moeshit and Tumblr. If you're posting for the sake of receiving (you)s all you're going to get is catty shitposts because we have already gone through with you on many different planes and levels yet you continue to persist repeating the same habbits.

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>you're still not decided whether you want to go East or West

>> No.5006114

Well then fuck off already.

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Drew a stylized portrait of my friend as a birthday gift, when you are too poor for normal gifts you take up the pen.
Looks nice but I feel like every fan of the show/manga is either gay furry or a woman. I rarely encounter such a high concentration of homosexual audience elsewhere, the threads are on par with /fit/

>> No.5006206

I like it. Blog?

>> No.5006213

Not him but you posted the exact same image. I'm seriously triggered right now wtf is wrong with you.

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>I'm seriously triggered right now wtf is wrong with you.
Jesus Christ, could you be more of a faggot?

>> No.5006230

Only if you get a little rougher with me...

>> No.5006237

How about you show me your tits you fat bitch

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Pic related is something I did a couple months back, pretty happy with how I shaded the clothing.

To be fair, Beastars itself is incredibly gay if you look at it taken anywhere past surface level. So what if it's gay? Let them be gay. Also, I like your composition.

>> No.5006363

I just want (you)s i don't even care if it is a critique, i just want to know if you at least like it or not. Just give me a (you) saying how shit I'm am. I want at least a (you), i don't want to feel ignored.

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Chicken again

I thought the colors would help distinguish the arms, but they really didn’t

Thanks, i might draw again in muh style

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>> No.5006553
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I drew that one face that's spray painted in every motorcycle shop ever.

>> No.5006555
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work on your values (transitions)

>> No.5006633

I disagree. This is just changing the style of the shading

>> No.5006664

her left shoulder, purple light should be appearing more to the front, and not as a backlight, legs she shadow right before the bandages shouldn't be as high as it is, breats bandges shouldn't have that much light, hair's light from the ball shouldn't be that much closer to white compared to those from her arm and bracelet, and there are way too many times he mixes light and dark values together creating muddiness https://youtu.be/XYB6Ztgwd3M?t=166

>> No.5006684

I think I was thrown off by your edited image which blended everything and thought you were saying to blend it which does change the style. Yes the light does need work

>> No.5006692

thank you
it is true light is hard, I am not doing myself a favor by drawing this much different materials close together like metal, hair and skin and attempt some more realistic rendering

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>> No.5006780

I mean, this is good art but I dont understand how people can like the female anime swordsmen aesthetic at all, it looks so boring and never stands out

>> No.5006819

Thank you. My commissioners are fond of it, and it's a fun go-to aesthetic.

When I get some downtime for personal work, I'll practice some monster design and baroque architecture.

>> No.5006825

How long have you been drawing for? Its very clean. Ref or imagination?

>> No.5006858

I've been drawing serious for about four years, roughly around the time I was working to sell phones for a small branch store. A friend let me have his old Intuos3 tablet; once I got used to it, I started doing requests for them and on 4chan.

A mix of both: references the commissioner provided, and imagination to give the character her own style.

>> No.5007206

post the blog bro

>> No.5007214

Me likey

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Better move on. I feel like it's an improvement, thanks for your help.

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>> No.5007684

Dairenke is this food thing a fetish or what

>> No.5007751
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how do I make this less shitty looking? is it the colors or are the proportions messed up I can't tell

>> No.5007756

add drop shadow, move eyeball slightly to her left maybe, if flat colors make the shapes of the shadows look cool with long arcs and sharp corners and on a separate layer (multiple/screen) get a large brush and lightly touch it with some colors for light and/or shadow

>> No.5007783

Go outside. These people exist. Just because they don't turn you on doesn't mean they don't have the right to exist.

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>Just because they don't turn you on doesn't mean they don't have the right to exist.
No one said that. Why are you being so fucking dramatic?

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think I made it even worse because I'm a brainlet but thanks for all the tips senpai. I'll try again later

>> No.5007832

you are right, but your paint over made it worse.

>> No.5007838

That's what happens when you just draw every other full moon but has the rough knowledge of some art fundies

>> No.5007839

I think you made it better and I like the result. Blog?

>> No.5007846

Why u do this?

>> No.5007850

Cause he can. And you can not.

>> No.5007853

thanky fren. if you're being genuine, I don't have one.

>> No.5007857

>I don't have one.
keep it that way
preserve your innocence

>> No.5007861

Neato, colors look great. Maybe a dark bg would make it even better.
Fix the eyes tho, too far apart. Use a ref if needed.

>> No.5007864

I'm innocent for thinking there's a chance he wasn't just blog-memeing? whatever senpai. I have no plans of making a blog anytime soon anyway

>> No.5007898
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Very good anon, check the left leg, I think it's too long and also, what is it doing? Maybe move it behind the bunny. rest it on the floor. Also the left arm, its looks out of proportion and the position looks unnatural to me. Overall good job, just a little more attention to structure, perspective and gesture. Don't get me wong, i'm nitpicking here, you're good! Here is my version, not very good but maybe helps to clarify what i'm talking about.

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>> No.5007917

Just wanna say that I really appreciate this and I now see a lot of what makes it look fugged up. I'll screencap your post and use it to try to redo my pic when I feel up to it. thanks again senpai

>> No.5007936

No problem, these are just some broad and general ideas, gesture, observation, structure etc, checking them throughout the process is a good habit to pick up if you want consistent results. Cheers!

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Reaper kid and ghost girl

>> No.5008164

Very cute! Blog?

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Thank you! @sugarbeetles on insta or twitter

Here are the lines.

>> No.5008223
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Figured I'd do a little teaser image for a story I'm finishing up

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>> No.5008262
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anatomy is significantly wrong, but I enjoyed coloring the skin. It looked better and smoother on my pc, tho

>> No.5008263

Stupid weird alien gods don't have genders sorry.

>> No.5008325

What kind of pen did you use to get the thick strokes?

>> No.5008393

Too tumblr

>> No.5008412

>that mouth
Looks like a granny without her denture

>> No.5008419

mmm... soft...

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>> No.5008485

I think he means that getting a blog will make you soulless. Social media comes with a lot of bullshit like trying to fish for likes, drawing FotM or even coom to appeal to the masses, and frustration when that fails. I wish I never got a blog.

>> No.5008594

Im sad.

>> No.5008600

don't be

>> No.5008609

Anime grannies look like THIS?!

>> No.5008795

I'm sad too anon. It's all so meaningless.

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>> No.5008850

3rd, people have been calling me beg recently and that I have not improved.

>> No.5008880

theyre just projecting anon, they know what hurts most because theyre experiencing it

>> No.5008892

It's okay man, don't take it too personally. Art is a very intimate hobby so we can be very vulnerable to criticism. Post your work and I'll give you my unbiased opinion. I'm not an elite or anything, >>5007417 is my work if you feel like my opinion will be worth something.

>> No.5008965

im this guy >>5002153

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>> No.5009062

Love the clothes, hate the head. The face is flawed and the head is so small compared to the body, did you overpaint an adult woman and slapped animu head above?

>> No.5009075

i’ll look into playing around with the head size and see what sticks

>> No.5009091
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Slow progress
Not too sure about the tree desu

Very nice expressions
Like it a lot but the heads' small like the other anon said. Face on the doll might be a bit sharp too, it sticks out more than the character's face
cute lineart, love the shadows

>> No.5009095

I don't think you are /beg/, anon. I can sense some improvement in the horizon if you keep practicing. Your lineart is pretty solid and your construction is decent. You know how to draw, now your goal is to make your drawings more interesting. More exaggerated expressions, better posing, use of angles, foreshortening, etc. The cat could also use some work.
I know it's hard to separate yourself emotionally from your art, but if you take useful critique (learn to filter out shitposting but also don't dismiss critique you don't like) personally you will start to feel worthless and suffer from art blocks or depression. Take every drawing as a positive opportunity to do better next time.

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took the criticisms into account and ended up with this

>> No.5009186

only way to get better is to fail! also you have a camera or a scanner so take advantage of that. artists from the past would murder you for that capability, you get to create checkpoints.

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redrew this

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redrew this

>> No.5010128

Yeah welcome to anime

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>> No.5010201

yeah i have one

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>> No.5010281

more detail on the penis than everything else combined
you wanted to show it off that much at this sketch stage? based

>> No.5010294

Eat shit

>> No.5010310
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Was thinking about this today, but are there any other users that do this kind of exploratory type of lineart? Whenever I do sketches, I never really lay down anything substantial, just a loose base, and then when I start slapping down lines, I prefer to start adding in bits and pieces as I go along.

Whenever I see videos of other artists showing off their process, they always draw every element they intend to line into the sketch from the beginning. idk if my own process is maybe counterproductive to the end product.

>> No.5010313
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Little retro space nymphette, still working on her, what do you think so far?

>> No.5010346

Liking it, hopefully you retain the bold stylization with the finished piece

>> No.5010354

I dunno, looks good to me other than the hands not being defined.

>> No.5010355

hope so too, that's the plan, thanks!

>> No.5010363

It's still wip but I always leave them last since I'm still hand shy.

>> No.5010616
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fuck it, i'll just say she's finished, enjoy frens..

>> No.5010719
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How would I even begin coloring something like this? color, light and shading are still topics that deeply escape me

>> No.5010756
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This is something i did for somebody else but you see the first step, make a separate layer and just make flat surfaces. While doing this check your silhouette by turnin your line layer on and off. Once you are done make another layer and set it to multiply and lower the opacity a bit, start drawing the shadow surfaces. Post once you did this. Don't rush this stage, it's essential.

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>2nd stage
How do you create coloring so smooth. It takes me eternity to make the shift between colors look this clean, don't you grow bored working with eraser?

>> No.5010860

Are you using a stabiliser?

>> No.5010869
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Yes, I guess. I have Wacom Intuos and even in SAI with its in-build stabilizer I can't achieve this look. For said reason I had to start painting because it is unironically easier for me to imitate traditional with a digital brush than spend eternity polishing the border between colors in stylized art

>> No.5010889
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I think you're just using the wrong brush then.
The brush that I do for laying down these types of colours is configured so that when I press lightly the pen is very small, and the harder I press the larger the brush gets (pic related).

With a brush like this is very easy to create these kinds of shapes. No eraser required.

>> No.5010936
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I don't uderstand, you can't achieve clean edges? You need to look into your brush settings, i can't help you never worked with sai but the basic hard brush should do this. I would encourage you to try working like this for a while, with hard flat planes, if you can make that work than blending and softening should work. Your shading is messy, forms are not clear, you're just trying to copy something you don't undertand. Keep it simple, too many beg artists reach out too soon for the blending brush.

>> No.5010943

Oh, btw, use lasso tool and fill, that's even better to get clear form. I use lasso fill in clip studio, that's my favourite tool!

>> No.5010968

Okay, thanks.

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Any suggestions for alterations to the lines before I start colouring it properly?

>> No.5011129
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Here anon, i had some fun coloring your drawing.

>> No.5011148
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I tried doing what you said and took my time but it still looks a bit off to me, in fact, a few mistakes are jumping to my eye right before posting it
Damn nice job!

>> No.5011204

I think it looks all right for the most part but there's two things that immediately jump out at me:
the right eye being slightly too far up, and the right arm doesn't quite right. I don't know if this was intentional, but it looks like it has pop eye forearms, like that bicep is too small for how big it those forearms are.

>> No.5011237

You're doing fine only thing is that you are going for the details first instead of the big shapes, study the way light falls on simple shapes like sphere, cone, tube etc and find these forms on your figure. Also, study carefully how skilled animation artists do cel shading in films. Your'e doing good just need to study and try more.

>> No.5011355

Arms are 100% intentional, but you're right, that eye is buggered, I'll fix it tomorrow. Cheers m8.

>> No.5011405


Really like how you hint at the musculature and forms.

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>> No.5011547
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Thank you! the big shapes part flipped a switch in my head and it became immediately apparent how to proceed with the shading! I assume the next step is ironing out a few details and highlights, yes?

>> No.5011696

Exactly, see how better it is, you can make an exercise by employing different shadow patterns on the same drawing. If you are interested do an image search for Luca Cambiaso, an old master painter who left a lot of studies and sketches with figures made up of simple geometric forms with accurate shading. This kind of approach and clarity is extremely helpful no matter what style you are into. Have fun!

>> No.5011704
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here, an example. Finish the drawing you are working on but stay with this concept a while, do sketches like this, study simple shapes in space and perspective, it will boost your drawing skills!

>> No.5011995
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Thanks friend. I'm still getting used to digital, the initial learning phase is always the most painful

>> No.5012104
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Im fuckin tired of drawing, why is it so hard anon?

>> No.5012190

Cause you make it hard when it should be fun.

>> No.5012196
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Can I get another set of eyes on this? I tried to do some red lines on my own on the right but I think I've been staring at this too long. Even flipping isn't helping. I don't know what to do about the backpack. I would ideally like to make it look like the backpack is sort of riding up from the jump but I don't even know where to begin. The angle is wonky on it and it looks stiff compared to everything else.

>> No.5012460

The first one would be fine if you moved the platform directly behind her more to the left. Make it look like she's leaping in a zig-zag pattern.

>> No.5012687

You little genius, you. Thanks anon!

>> No.5013489

I am rather amazing.
Legit though, it's nice. Look forward to seeing the finished piece.

>> No.5013493
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