/vent/ thread

[Anonymous No.4996480]

Art brings peace and love to the world.
But at the end of the day, who comforts the comforter?
We only have each other, anons. So let's be kind to one another.

(Keep it art-related or the jannies will slit your throat)

[Anonymous No.4996492]

>>4996480
I am now fully convinced that Artists are some of the absolute worst people you can meet - either you are narcissistic, mentally ill, bitter, full of hostility, egotistical, psychotic and completely depressed. So which one are you?

[Anonymous No.4996494]

>>4996480
>Keep it art-related or the jannies will slit your throat
While true, that hasn’t really happened yet.

[Anonymous No.4996495]

>>4996492
Depressed, though that’s a lot of people, doesn’t seem like the worst thing, on its own at least - probably have some tic that people don’t like outside of that I’m sure.

Anyways, maybe you’re hanging out on ic too much, go out and find some old person who’s an artist, they’re good people.

[Anonymous No.4996501]

>>4996492
my first figure drawing teacher, who is an artist, told me without stuttering to never seek a relationship with another artist because they’re shit people

a few years down my artistic career I can say she was speaking the truth

[Anonymous No.4996502]

>>4996492
All of it

[Anonymous No.4996507]

>>4996501
sour grapes

[Anonymous No.4996508]

is 20 too old? feel like im past the good ages to start drawing and maybe make it to a good or professional level. it really bums me out

[Anonymous No.4996512]

>>4996508
Yes it's too old, give up now while you are ahead.

[Anonymous No.4996519]

>>4996480
>>hmmm
Not really here to vent, but would like to draw is all.

>>4996492
Your anime picture was interesting reference
to use.

>>Thanks

[Anonymous No.4996520]

>>4996508
No bro, crack out those fundies, sketch that Picasso, and draw a brick, get learning

[Anonymous No.4996522]

I no longer want to become a nsfw artist.

[Anonymous No.4996525]

>>4996508
Only underage browse /ic/ anon, just look all the shitposters and coom posting tell me it was posted by anyone older than 18.

[Anonymous No.4996542]

>>4996525
i wasnt talking about the age of people on this board

[Anonymous No.4996548]

>>4996492
my theory is that a lot of these artists are just dudes who have too much free time because they're socially ostracized

[Anonymous No.4996549]

>>4996548
:(

[Anonymous No.4996560]

>>4996492
Yes anon, being an artist has it’s down-sides, do you think normal people would spend 3-8 hours of their lives doing anatomy studies and rendering ass and tiddies?

[Anonymous No.4996588]

>>4996480
I'm extremely suspicious that a certain character from a popular web series was ripped off of a character I drew a lot in a popular group drawing application. It's extremely uncanny with the perfect timing, and I know it's ultimately my own fault for drawing well developed original characters in high traffic public spaces. I've stopped doing it since then but it leaves me at a loss because I have no friends to gauge my characters appeal so I relied on reactions from strangers.

[Anonymous No.4996596]

>>4996480
Actually, if more artists had this perfect combination of traits our society's art would be better.

[Anonymous No.4996604]

I don't know how to be happy with my art. I've put so much time into and I don't want to quit. I just want to look at something I made and move on without feeling awful.

[Anonymous No.4996606]

>>4996588
Well, to me that says you should be posting your characters MORE, as to leave a trace and give you credibility/ownership in the future.
Seriously, just have a Twatter or something and dump your art there.

Ideally, though, you should be using that creativity to make your own web series or what have you. If a copycat can do it, so should you be able to. Turn your lemons into cash.

[Anonymous No.4996607]

>>4996604
post some of it?

[Anonymous No.4996613]

>>4996607
This is something decent from the last few months.

[Anonymous No.4996615]

>>4996606
I guess I left out that the character I think they ripped off was for a comic I'd been developing to publish. Not smart on my part but I learned my lesson.
The only thing keeping me from posting stuff to twitter is that I'm autistic about spoiling things about my final product, and the feedback is either biased or nonexistent. Besides, the copycat is hugely influential with an army of fans and a famous series. My name being on my stuff wouldn't have stopped them from getting away with it. There's not much an unknown creator can do against high profile thieves.

[Anonymous No.4996619]

>>4996492
I'm physically healthy and mentally well-adjusted, but I'm also shit at drawing, so you're probably not wrong.

[Anonymous No.4996623]

What the fuck do I do with the hands?!
Like I dont know what to do with the characters hands. I dont know how to pose them.

[Anonymous No.4996647]

>>4996623
Look up Koreans posing, they're always doing weird stuff with their hands

[Anonymous No.4996653]

>>4996615
It can still get you some traction as the underdog if you want to throw shit on the fan.

One thing I realized about this whole "don't spoil the story" is: I would be lucky if people even bothered to read my story at all in this saturated day and age. So why worry that I might spoil my characters to a couple dozen followers who may or may not be interested in the story if that helps me in the long run to amass an userbase who might become interested in the story/characters?
100 people will read your spoilers, but 1000 might read your story because you promoted the universe.

I still hide major spoilers, but have been way less secretive lately.

[Anonymous No.4996664]

>>4996623
Is that because the character in question is standing around doing nothing like a mannequin?

Make the character do something meaningful, like, for example, fixing a tie or some other element of their appearance. Add objects and environment for them to interact with — books, furniture, etc. Your issue will vanish.

[Anonymous No.4996673]

>>4996548
And those are probably the less terrible people.

[Anonymous No.4996677]

>>4996522
Welcome back, friend.

[Anonymous No.4996682]

I just found out I'm not a genius

[Anonymous No.4996698]

>>4996653
You make a good point. It's probably best to post some developed characters and announce the comic officially. But man it was retardedly efficient to just sketch on a well populated website and gauge which sketches got better responses than others as I drew them. I never expected my stuff to be good enough to steal.
No chance I'm going to start shit with the suspected thief though, they have fans even here. Hell, they've technically ripped off others before and everyone knows it but they get away with it because they change it just enough to have deniability. Being an artist on the internet today fucking sucks.

[Anonymous No.4996701]

>>4996682
Wait till you find out you’re not even average let alone special in any way

[Anonymous No.4996706]

>>4996698
I wish you luck, buddy.
Mind saying what website is that? I don't get how those online MS paint rooms could help with character development, if that's what you used. Curious about the process.

[Anonymous No.4996734]

>>4996480
>yiff.party is dead for real this time
Where do I get free patreon shit now?

[Anonymous No.4996742]

>>4996734
From the content creators,


For money

[Anonymous No.4996743]

>>4996742
I have never bought anything digital nor payed for services and never will

[Anonymous No.4996745]

My art bf is happy without me.

He chose me back then. Proposed a mutual feedback dynamic. We had little in common, even in art, yet managed to chat for hours due to similar personalities.
But I stopped responding anyway. Back in my head, a voice kept saying "he's not serious about improving, ditch him."

I talked to him a couple times after months of radio silence, and he never complained. Always polite, always positive. Giving me feedback as always. Yet his woes about not drawing enough put me off again, and I'd go quiet.

It's been 6 months of no contact. I watch him stream without saying anything. I stalk his blog. His art is improving a little - not as much as mine -, but he is having fun. He has a small niche of friends who support him and I suspect even a new art gf. All I have are literally who people on Discord giving me empty praise.

Finding pleasure in drawing has never been so hard for me.
I'm sorry, S.

[Anonymous No.4996749]

>>4996743
>Oompa
>Loompa
>doopedy doo
>pay for your shit
>or I’m phoning the police

[Anonymous No.4996750]

>>4996745
The fuck is wrong with you bitch? You sabotaged yourself and yet you're still improving your art and have friends on discord that support you. Go suck some dick in an alleyway

[Anonymous No.4996753]

>>4996750
inb4 it’s a tranny

[Anonymous No.4996758]

>>4996753
It would make sense, trans tend to be afraid to get too close to a romantic partner out of a severe fear of rejection. I'd empathize then, but if it was a girl then the dumb bitch deserves to get slapped with dicks until she gets herpes.

[Anonymous No.4996759]

I know my situation is probably better than most 4chan but I needed to vent.

After 4 years of learning art I finally "made it". Got hired as a concept artist for a big AAA game studio. And I fucking hate it.
I never get to do pretty paintings or anything like what is in my portfolio.
I have to do soulless designs on t poses or line work of boring buildings. Everytime I try to make it pretty they say I'm wasting time and hiding too much design.
I feel like my art is slowly regressing working with so much limitation on something that is not even my style. And I'm too tired after working 8 hours a day to progress on my own.

I'm grateful that I don't have to flip burgers for a living but I feel like my dream of working on something that I actually enjoy has been completely crushed.

[Anonymous No.4996761]

>>4996758
Oh I didn’t realise YOU were a tranny. Holy shit it’s tranny central up in here

[Anonymous No.4996764]

>>4996761
I'm not, I just see them as more than pol memes and horror stories. A lot of them are just mentally ill people trying to live an average life while being bullied and hated from every angle. It's easy to forget there are assholes and predators in every demographic, it's not so much to do with being trans since a lot of the "transgender" folks we see trying to game the system aren't even really suffering from gender dysphoria, just manipulative snakes who found a wool coat.

[Anonymous No.4996767]

>>4996764
>making money off larping as a girl and wearing a wig
Is this another way to garner followers and coombux?

[Anonymous No.4996771]

>>4996706
Good luck with the stuff you're doing too anon.
Almost all the websites are gone now. If my character was really stolen, then it was off flockmod a couple years ago. You could look into drawpile, which is the last big one left. It gets around 25-40 users in the more popular rooms. There used to be many heavily populated sites, even Japanese ones I liked to visit. Was a great way to learn from others and get instant feedback.
If your character/style had good appeal, the other artists would write positive comments near it or leave hearts. I would build off the drawings that got the most reaction, and polish a good design from it. But, social media and zoomer discord drama killed these communities almost completely.

[Anonymous No.4996792]

>>4996759
This is why it’s so retarded that people here are grinding their nuts off trying to “make it” when what they think is “making it” is becoming a slave monkey. Honestly flipping burgers isn’t that bad. I’ve never had to do it because I’m not retarded, but make no mistake you are the burger flipper of the gaming industry

[Anonymous No.4996806]

>>4996767
You don't even have to wear a wig in the art world, just use a cute profile pic (cartoon cat, anime girl, cutesy drawn animal) and an ambiguously female name. We already know that people are going to be more likely to support you if you're female.

At this point I really want to see a guy posing as a female using vtube with a voice changer, and see how many coomer bux he can milk.

[Anonymous No.4996807]

>>4996759
Anon, try to see your situation as a stepping stone, not the end goal.
Consider how much importance this job offers you in terms of future opportunities and if you think it's valuable, endure it. Give yourself a time limit too. Shifting your mindset from "I hate this and I don't have time for myself" to "it's just 2 years of this and then I get to do something better" would be very beneficial to you.
Not sure how long you've been at it, but just think of college or highschool or whatever. It was endurable because it had a time limit and a purpose.

[Anonymous No.4996828]

>Draw something that isn't porn of adult human females
>But also isn't dry, sexless academic studies e.g. bowls of fruit and value studies of fat, cellulite riddled naked people
>Literally endless complaints and name calling
It's like 90% of people have a list of acceptable things you can draw and if they see you draw anything not on this list they just have a meltdown. It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.4996892]

>>4996613
dude are you for real?
how long have you been drawing for?
this is really good keep it up

[Anonymous No.4996894]

Why does drawing with dexterity on a tablet has to be this hard with this slippery surface.
Is this problem the same on a cintiq for example?
I think staying for a few month with my screenless tablet before taking any decision but damn...

[Anonymous No.4996943]

>>4996613
humble brag

[Anonymous No.4996952]

>>4996508
Its not too old, even 30 is not too old
what really holds everyone back is mental ilnesses, they take a tremendous amount of mental resources
all you need is to get to the bottom of your mental baggage, and quite a bit of free time
If you manage to heal yourself mentally, you will gain a large advantage

I don't think that its that hard to study the fundamentals...even if you are clueless you just have to apply scientific method to gather intel and you'll reach a better understanding soon
perspective is probably the worst thing there will be on your journey

don't give up anon

[Anonymous No.4996964]

>>4996828
Probably because there’s an endless list of things you could draw but you chose to draw child porn and dogs with human bodies and 14 inch cocks

[Anonymous No.4996966]

>>4996892
>>4996943
You niggas have exceptionally low standards

[Anonymous No.4997006]

>>4996828
Coomers are incredibly entitled. Draw something that isn't the specific thing they like and they'll go apeshit.

[Anonymous No.4997023]

>>4996964
Why do you pearl clutch and kvetch over what someone else draws? Endlessly? All day? Every day? Dont you have better ways to spend your time?

[Anonymous No.4997026]

>>4996525
Oof. That picture hit me hard.

[Anonymous No.4997066]

>>4996966
its far from beg its not professional but its for sure not a beg

[Anonymous No.4997080]

>>4996492
Depressed and bitter.

[Anonymous No.4997083]

>>4996548
Saw right through me.

[Anonymous No.4997294]

>>4996745
This almost sounded eerily similar except the last bit...

[Anonymous No.4997381]

>>4996745
>i stopped talking to someone because I'm a retard
>why would they stop talking to me as well oh no no no i thought they'd just orbit me forever
autism or what?

[Anonymous No.4997419]

>>4997006
How do I avoid coomers without completely depriving my art of any kind of sexuality? Is it possible? I like demure suggestive pinup stuff but I hate coomers and their lizard brains.

[Anonymous No.4997487]

>>4996492
A little narcisistic. I have a pretty cozy life draw errday it is relaxing and I like to see small improvements stack ontop of themselfs over like a decade now. I don't see why artists are all so obnoxious tho desu m8 pretty annoying.

[Anonymous No.4997494]

>>4996508
no what are you retarded? you can start anytime if you put in effort and have fun you will improve, age is irrevelant
>if you can hold a pencil you can draw. Faggot

[Anonymous No.4997499]

>>4996734
dead for real? I remember an anon asking on how to copyright strike that site.

[Anonymous No.4997540]

how do you achieve consistency
i feel that every time i've managed to finish a decent drawing, they are followed by days to weeks of drought
i dont think this is something that will go away with time either, because i've suffered from this exact problem from the very beginning of my journey
its just so fucking absurd. because i've seen so many people, both below and above my level, simply not having this problem at all.
they can just pump out drawings day in day out while maintaining a consistent quality (relative to their skill level).
i've tried so many times to triangulate and diagnose this problem, and just when i thought the core of the issue is within my fingertips it always slips away. just dont even know what the fuck is wrong with me.
i dont even know why im asking here because i know no one can help me solve this issue unless they physically dissect my brain.
maybe its just a talent or iq thing

[Anonymous No.4997558]

>>4997540
achieve consistency by being consistent you gear spinning moron

>i drew yesterday and i didn't draw today! what is wrong with me! it's my brain and/or iq and/or talent!

no, just fuckingggg drawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww arrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.4997620]

>>4997558
the thing is that i do draw everyday
by consistency i meant consistency in quality
every time ive made something decent, i just simply cannot reliably reproduce that performance the next day
i have to exert all of my willpower pumping out garbage thumbnails and sketches for literally days or weeks until i finally hit something worth finishing again
my standard isn't even high either
its just such a confusingly tortorous state to be in especially because i just KNOW things shouldn't be this way
im just screaming to the void so its ok if you dont have a good answer

[Anonymous No.4997767]

My imagination is 0, all the grinding for nothing, I can't make anything interesting

[Anonymous No.4997773]

>>4997767
Just grind your imagination skills, bro

[Anonymous No.4997778]

>>4997620
it's for you to figure out but i will say this

countless times, COUNTLESS times, i've seen beg-amateur level artists make the same claim. often it revolves around some consistent style they want, and not being able to be consistent with it.

maybe this is you! maybe it's not. but often it's just a trademark sign that you haven't drawn enough or you're not solid enough on your fundamentals and every time you try to address something it comes out differently. consistency is easy to achieve when you know what you're doing and you've practised it a million times over. this consistency is what style actually is. when you don't know what you're doing, and you haven't practised it enough, then naturally your results will be inconsistent.

[Anonymous No.4997790]

>>4997419
Outside of not posting the more suggestive stuff, I dont think it is. Even if you didnt tag it with coomer hashtags, once one finds it it gets shared around in coomer groups.

[Anonymous No.4997793]

>>4997767
So you built a fountain on top of a concrete building huh

[Anonymous No.4997797]

>>4997781
who?

[Anonymous No.4997870]

>>4997790
Fuck man what's the point anymore. In a few years it'll all be either degenerate coombrains or moral crusading puritans. And if you don't pick a side you'll get shit on by both. It's already happening with stupid character shipping. Everything we love has to be completely polarized until it collapses under its own weight.

Draw purely for your own enjoyment anons before you won't be able to draw at all.

[Anonymous No.4997871]

im always looking for something to give me the spark of desire

i have absolutely no sense of purpose but this is also a lie because if it were true i wouldn't be upset about falling short. there is clearly something i want but there's no way i can crystallize it into a tangible objective

my why is so weak and undefined that any discipline i've ever developed i've only been able to maintain for definite periods of time before falling into the void again

i know exactly what i need to do but i don't have anywhere near the sense of obsession to be able to do it. i dive in and out of existential meandering and constantly have to find new reasons to prop myself up as the old ones disintegrate

when i draw it feels good. i know i'm making progress and finishing commissions and making money so i can buy shit for myself and help support my family. but even this doesn't stop me from starting every day with a base level repulsion to doing anything

ive gone months without 4chan or [insert timewasting vice here] but i always find something else to deflect to, and even failing all technology i will just sit outside and stare at the trees, accomplishing absolutely nothing and coming no closer to resolving my weird emptiness. whether i just draw or dont draw at all makes no difference to me falling back into the hole. taking it easy and going with the flow doesn't help, working towards a goal doesn't help, making what i want doesn't help, having structure and avoiding distractions doesn't help. all respite is temporary

i just need one moment. one moment of pure clarity

[Anonymous No.4997918]

>>4996943
>>4996892
Dude who did that drawing, I personally feel dissatisfied with the work I put out is all and wish I didn't feel that way about it.

[Anonymous No.4997959]

What I learned today:

-street fighter characters are super popular good for fanart
-saturated colors and hue shifting = good
-characters eating food = good

[Anonymous No.4997971]

I don’t expect any d/ic/k here to have anything of worth to say in response, but I think I’ll post this here to enhance my mental clarity.

I can see straight through everyone. I realize that regardless of what I do, there’s nothing that can fix everything wrong with everyone else. Most people are dumber than I am, and that’s fine and all too, I can even forgive that, but they follow it up by being pieces of shit as well. I’m sickened. I feel disgust and contempt for other people.

I increasingly am beginning to feel violent anger towards others, they just piss me off that damn much. It bothers me that I have to just grin and bear it, all the bullshit that comes my way instead of being allowed to lash back at those who wound me. Nowadays, I have more fantasies than ever of bashing another person’s face in whenever they anger me.

But I don’t even think I’m a bad person, or a creepy psycho, it’s just that I keep getting screwed over. This makes me not want to draw.

[Anonymous No.4997977]

>>4997971
Get off 4chan (and whatever social media you may use) and seek a therapist. You aren't mentally healthy

[Anonymous No.4997986]

>>4997971
>I can see straight through everyone.
lol. First sign of a narrow minded idiot. Are you the idiot that thinks people not agreeing with you is "being pieces of shit" because "you're so much smarter than everyone"? What kind of "bullshit" keeps "screwing you over" exactly?

[Anonymous No.4998002]

>>4997977
I mean, I know this much anger is arguably unhealthy, but I keep a tight grip on it and almost never come even close to actually acting on it (well, not unless I knew I could get away with it). Most of it it just silent seething, but I’ve been looking into suppressing my emotions and have been having some success with it actually. I mainly used it to stop myself from crying like a little bitch, which I was surprised since I’ve never been able to do that before. I’ve also got a more solid control over the anger, I feel, though it’s all still there.
>>4997986
I think you’re trying to bait me into getting angry but I’ll answer seriously.

Most people just are pieces of shit. It’s a tragedy that the few decent folks out there like me have to pay the price for their mistakes. They are pieces of shit in that they are catty, selfish, narcissistic and downright maliciously petty.

I am smarter than most people, that much is true. Along with the standard drudgery of life, people and their own selfish desires often screw me over, since they seek their own benefit above all else, even their fellow man. This of course upsets me.

I don’t know which idiot you’re referring to, but I’m a different guy.

[Anonymous No.4998006]

>>4998002
This is one of my favorite songs and really captures how I feel most of the time: https://youtu.be/ZbHfgXJKn1Y

Also, to the anon who said therapy, I tried that, it really doesn’t work

[Anonymous No.4998024]

>>4998002
Your continued avoidance of giving concrete examples makes you seem like a self absorbed narcissist simply rationalizing things in your own favor.

How do you know you're smarter than most people? Dumb people tend to think they're smarter than they are. How are people treating you poorly? You accuse others of being maliciously petty and selfish, yet you claim you would violently hurt people out of anger if you knew you could get away with it.

Most people who read your childish tantrum of a post would've dismissed you as another mentally unstable Adam Lanza tier idiot, I'm only replying on the maybe 5% chance you're actually some wronged genius.

[Anonymous No.4998025]

>>4997971
if you were such an unparalleled genius you'd figure it out. shame you're just a sociopathic narcissist with a terminal case of dunning krunger

[Anonymous No.4998030]

>>4998002
god damnit bateman

[Anonymous No.4998031]

>>4998002
>I am smarter than most people, that much is true.
lmao you should take a trip to r/iamverysmart

[Anonymous No.4998040]

I am very smart and intelligent. Much smarter and more intelligent than most other people. I know this to be true. Anyway, everyone else aside from me is garbage and they're all going out of their way to ruin my life - me, a perfectly good person, one of the few, and much more intelligent than them. They are all stupid and shitty and selfish and narcissistic and malicious - unlike me, who is none of these things. I find other people to be obnoxious because I am much smarter than them. Everything is rigged against me, and it's a real tragedy. I am also not the guy who posted this exact same rant before.

[Anonymous No.4998046]

>>4998025
This reads like projection and cope, and I mean that completely unironically
>>4998024
Your tone was gonna make me dismiss you as another d/ic/k, but then you said
>I'm only replying on the maybe 5% chance you're actually some wronged genius
Thank you for this. That’s maybe the first time anyone actually cared enough to listen to my side of the story, so I’ll give you what you asked for.

Concrete examples, right? For starters, my parents clearly only had me out of their own stupid interest. I’m not a human to them, I’m a tool they use for their own stupid ends, they want to forge my life in their vision, and use their ideal of success to delude themselves into thinking they’re “good” parents.

Next, if you spend any serious amount of time observing the average person and their interactions, and even trying it yourself, you’ll see what I mean. “Friends” don’t really exist, and they’re just there to quell their own loneliness and try to get something out of you. In my case, I can say that people like me because I can be quite charming and funny, I’m actually somewhat popular in my own right.

I’m also not bad looking, which can attract girls, which would then attract guys who want to attract said girls (I want no part of it).
>How do you know you're smarter than most people? Dumb people tend to think they're smarter than they are
I’ve always been in all the smartest classes at school, I tend to be sharper than most of my peers and always manage to weasel my way through things, plus I have a wider array of literature and in depth cinema analysis under my belt than most others. Adults have remarked on how intelligent I am very often. I know I’m not stupid.

Also, i don’t want to brag, but I’m consistently hardworking to at least some degree. I try to draw everyday. I workout diligently. After some time of doing these things, I’ve achieved good results, and I look forward to what it’ll bring me in the future.

[Anonymous No.4998054]

>>4996480
I got into archi uni this year. We are doing all classes online, and for atelier we are doing 2 days per week, were teachers look at the drawings we did from last time and discuss on them. Since the start of the school year, 2 times per week, my drawings get shit on constantly.

Each time I say, its ok, I learned something, I will try again. But its never ok. This friday, when I believe for the first time that I did something good finally, I got shat on the most. We have a lot of homework, and I am behind, since I have to redo everything each time, and yet since the last friday after classes, I could not draw anything. I just stood in bed, slept, browsed 4chan, and cried.

I got in uni in top 10 with my portfolio, and yet my colleagues are handling this shit better. At the last project, on which we worked on for a month, from a class of 31, I was the single one who could not finish my project, and dragged my team down. And now I am afraid I will do the same with the current project on which I should be working, and yet I got burned out, for the first time in over a calendar year.

[Anonymous No.4998060]

>>4996492
Did you realize that whatever you said applies to you too, otherwise you're shit at being an artist. By the way everything you said applies to me except being narcissistic because I'm humble as hell, very very humble, more humble than anyone here.

[Anonymous No.4998084]

>>4998046
>on parents
Realize they are only human like you, with all the faults that comes with it. They may not know what is best for you, but until you demonstrate to them that you know what's best for you, they will continue to try to mold your life because of the parental instinct. A parent's great fear is that they let you fuck up your life and you end up blaming them for the rest of your life.

>on 'the average person'
You may be more intelligent than others, but that doesn't make them less human or more deserving of scorn than you. They feel the same anger, sadness, and anxieties as you. Imagine how foolish it is for a man born big and strong to get angry at the smallness of those around him. The grocery clerk doesn't give a fuck about how well you did in school, she's worried about making ends meet so her kids could have a better future, so she's not going to treat you as you expect to be treated. You can't get upset at deer behaving like deer, or wolves like wolves. Unless you find a way to channel your intelligence to something productive, you will forever be unhappy. How you view other people will leak out into your behaviors, and everyone can detect it. If you continue seeing others as shit, they will continue treating you like shit, as evidenced in these threads. I almost didn't want to bother engaging you seriously because of how obnoxiously you behaved, it would've been easier to call you an idiot before tabbing back to youtube while eating my oatmeal.

[Anonymous No.4998087]

>>4998060
I know, I am bitter and hostile to you faggots.

[Anonymous No.4998090]

I have a feeling that this board is really made for me. I'm really here to shit on all of you, old or young, talented or /beg/ smart or dumb, whoever you are. I feel great satisfaction hurting all of your feelings. This is my home now.

[Anonymous No.4998099]

>4998090
Good /ic/ banner material

[Anonymous No.4998101]

whats the point of vent thread how does complaining about drawing help you draw?

[Anonymous No.4998119]

>>4998090
Based crab, but honestly try to crab the more talented/young people, they have the most to lose.

[Anonymous No.4998145]

>>4998054
Shit, that's rough man. I hope it gets better !

[Anonymous No.4998187]

>>4998084
>They may not know what is best for you, but until you demonstrate to them that you know what's best for you, they will continue to try to mold your life because of the parental instinct
But I do know, I’ve grown so much so fast and yet they think they know better. I’m a long way from the edgy 16 year old who was stealing from them for drugs. Hell, I already replayed them all that money and more by wageslaving during this well deserved disease plaguing humanity, although part of it is just I don’t have anywhere else to go, for now.

>You may be more intelligent than others, but that doesn't make them less human or more deserving of scorn than you
Does it not? Isn’t our brain our primary characteristic that let us survive so long? I don’t give a fuck about some clerk and her retarded kids.

>How you view other people will leak out into your behaviors, and everyone can detect it. If you continue seeing others as shit, they will continue treating you like shit, as evidenced in these threads
Mostly false. I won’t pretend I’m some sort of super stone faced con artist actor, but I manage to hide my true self pretty well, I’ve been doing it since a young age since I’ve been lying to my parents for so long. People generally like me, but they still don’t treat me the way I deserve to be. I don’t find it too difficult in practice to come off as a sweet, charming guy who can make others laugh their ass off, but it sort of sickens me to behave that way.

I have to admit though, I did enjoy expressing some of my thoughts here. Even if I disagree with you and think you’re the actual idiot here, I appreciate those that responded, since even if it was all negative attention, I feel a little calmer. I apologize for how you guys think, and I’m not mentally ill, delusional, or narcissistic, but thanks for the listen. Later.

[Anonymous No.4998239]

>>4998187
Kek. When you live in your head rent free but the landlord is fucking crazy

[Anonymous No.4998259]

>>4998187
>why should I have empathy for the less fortunate?? I'm so much smarter than everyone, I'm a master manipulator and liar who stole money from my parents to buy drugs, but WTF I already paid them the money back why aren't they treating me like the genius I am???
What a repulsive shithead, you deserve to rot as you are.

[Anonymous No.4998274]

>>4998187
Seek help, I mean it.

[Anonymous No.4998280]

>>4997419
There's no way because coomers make up the majority of the art consumers now, especially on twitter. You absolutely can have sexuality in your work, but you'll just have to take a stern stance on that shit whenever someone complains about a lack of ass/tits. Just draw what you enjoy and fuck everyone else.

[Anonymous No.4998321]

>>4996548
I guess that's true for me, although someone being socially ostracized doesn't necessarily mean they're a bad person.

I am an aspie, like everyone else I want to make friends and be in good company, but I have trouble with social cues and conventions and often weird people out or make the wrong impression, people make all sort of assumptions about me, they think I'm intimidating, unapproachable, a know-it-all, a moron, etc, when I'm just trying to live my life and do what I can.

I draw and write and fantasize about characters, human problems and relationships because people don't want me in their lives and it's the next best thing.

[Anonymous No.4998331]

>>4998187
This is some highschool edgy kid type of crap

[Anonymous No.4998335]

>>4998187
Anon, nobody else but us will tell you the honest truth, and the truth is, you're kinda stupid. Go grow up.

[Anonymous No.4998342]

>>4997767
Look at the things that spark your interest, movies, series, comics, games, and try to work out the reason they resonate with you, the conflict, their values, the symbolism.

And then try to make something that speaks the a similar message.

[Anonymous No.4998388]

>>4996480
the more i improve the more i can see just what a beg i am. and i acknowledge that some other anons, some younger, improve much faster than i do, probably because they have less ego and more discipline.

[Anonymous No.4998390]

>>4996480
I wish I was drawing right now

[Anonymous No.4998400]

>>4998388
>they have less ego and more discipline
Fuck me, I improved so slowly because I kept trying to rush my improvement. Slow down, stick to the basics, and you'll see tremendous growth like you'll never believe.

[Anonymous No.4998417]

>only feel less shitty once I socialize with others who aren't family members who I speak to daily
Such BULLSHIT

[Anonymous No.4998441]

I don't know what to practice or how to practice and Im stagnating hard. Shouldn't have fell for the just draw meme.

[Anonymous No.4998451]

>>4998239
Ngl, this made me kek like crazy, thanks anon
>>4998335
Projection on all counts, I’m observably smart. Please explain to me how and why I’m stupid, if you even can.
>>4998259
I paid back my parents something like 5 or 6 times what I stole at least, it was like $500 or so I stole, I paid off like 3 grand or more worth of bills. Plus, my parents are retarded just like everyone else. I’m not even asking for much, just to be left alone, but they’d rather make me do a whole bunch of shit I don’t want to.

Oh well, I always weasel my way through things so I should be fine. What bothered me about your reply was how judgy you are. I wasn’t even going to respond further, but what gives you the right to pass so much judgement on me, huh? You don’t know how awful things really are on my end, how my family truly is, how nice I really am. Sure I get psychotically angry at times, but if it were a lesser man, he’d probably act on it irrationally and get himself thrown in jail. I wouldn’t have lied and stolen if I had the opportunity to be honest, but what do you know about having your hands tied?

Don’t I deserve empathy and love like everyone else? Aren’t I a human being too? Why does everyone else receive warmth and kindness wherever they go, whereas I’m always given the cold shoulder and a dirty look? Why me? Why me? Why?

[Anonymous No.4998471]

>>4998451
this niggas trolling at this point, ignore the bait

[Anonymous No.4998485]

>>4996480
I'm starting to think there's a fucking conspiracy against me or something. I've been trying for months to get commissions but haven't gotten a single one. Not even when I was underselling and charging $10-$25 a piece.
I used to actually get commissions when I'd do shitty pencil sketches that I'd take a pic of with my phone a couple of years ago but I'm having fucking zero luck now that I'm digital and my art has improved drastically.

[Anonymous No.4998491]

>>4998451
>im so smart I have to shitpost it on /ic/'s vent thread to prove
If you where actually smart, you would've actually fixed your situation by now. fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.4998492]

>>4998485
trace

[Anonymous No.4998513]

>>4996480

>Run out of energy to live
>Realize there's a bunch of things fundamentally wrong with me
>Decide to destroy the empty, mindless husk of a human being I was to go sort my shit out
>Make sure my friends wont be alone but it probably looked bad
>Calculate the amount of fucks anyone had to give - My value as a person = Everything will be fine
>Turns out I'm bad at math
>Tell people to fuck off because it was easier to just have everyone hate me than to explain I was gonna go hatch
>Dive headfirst into my first serious experiences of grief, despair and loneliness
>Don't even feel like the same person anymore
>Even after everything, some were willing to forgive me
>Don't even remember how to talk to people anymore and I'm afraid they wont like me
>Feel too ashamed of my actions to accept forgiveness
>Log off
>Thank god it was all just a dream

But
>Going delusional
>Feels like I'm being haunted by a vengeful spirit
>Was that porn making fun of my gay (in the third definition) little puppet?
>Was that post what you think of me?
And more importantly
>Are you okay?

Screaming into the void here cause now its haunting my conciseness
I just wanna clear up that the reason I said I didn't want to read
was because I thought I could save myself the grief of losing you, not because I didn't care. No homo. No homo. But NOW? Isekai into the Aztec Empire for all I care.
Also, my will is unbreakable, so if you feel guilty about anything don't, and despite me telling you to fuck off, I will forever defend your honor. No homo. Don't really care what you think of "me". This is merely out of loyalty, which is the least I could have for my First Gay Best Friend. No homo. No homo. No homo. No homo. No homo.

Anyways. STOP. IM ALREADY DEAD. AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.4998528]

>>4998513
Wait also, since I'm already venting random shit

DUDE
I realized one joke I made stressed you out

One time, some woman asked me "Where did you come from?" and I was like ??? "The bus" (Why does this bitch care???). I realized later that she meant country because I was foreign.

So yeah I didn't really have much of a sense of self. Didn't think about it at ALL. I was probably quoting a meme and I probably meant it literally. YEET.

Finally... This is off my chest... I am free. When I hit it big, which I will, I will send you all a stimulus check or something as reparations.

[Anonymous No.4998534]

>>4998451
>Please explain to me how and why I’m stupid, if you even can.
There's 2 situations

>you're larping
Dumb larp. Waste of effort instead of drawing

>you're not larping
Kek

[Anonymous No.4998543]

>>4996492
all of those unironically

[Anonymous No.4998544]

>>4998451
>Please explain to me how and why I’m stupid, if you even can
Not even that guy but.
>Victim mentallity, peak low IQ
>All energy spent blaming the world for everything instead of doing a conscious effort or choices to improve your life
>Falling for drug addiction, anyone with moderate intelligence knows to stick with the safe non addictive drugs or just steer clear
>Falls for emotional thinking negative loops non stop
>All of your interactions boil down to emotional blackmail
At best you are childish and at worse you are a nigger. Before you go with muh boohoo my life I can guarantee my life has been much harder (went from homeless on a shit hole to a nice life in a decent country). If you were really intelligent as you said you would be making conscious decisions to improve your life instead of attention whoring with shitty emotional blackmail on the cantonese basket weaving imageboards.

[Anonymous No.4998576]

>>4996480

[Anonymous No.4998626]

>>4996492
Ranking high on paranoia. Not one of those.

[Anonymous No.4998636]

>>4998626
There's a reason why that one was left out. That's exactly what they want you to think.

[Anonymous No.4998769]

Im really temped to draw porn and I feel like i need to plan out my future properly when I decide to stop doing coom art

[Anonymous No.4998802]

I just want you guys to know I appreciate all of you. I will never meet you and literally do not know who you are, but keep on guys.
Just remember that you can change, and the only one you can actually help is yourself. I hope we can all fix our shit together, we're going to be alive and die someday lads.

Have a great day or night where-ever you are

[Anonymous No.4998804]

>>4996480

I'm still not good enough. I don't know if I ever will be. I'm smoking ciggies again. I wish I was stronger.

[Anonymous No.4998808]

>>4998802
Have a great night/day anon-pai

[Anonymous No.4998812]

>>4998802
the same to you, friend

[Anonymous No.4998854]

>>4998802
>I just want you guys to know I appreciate all of you
Why would you appreciate me exactly?

[Anonymous No.4998968]

>>4998451
>type intelligently
>academic achiever
Good signs for your intellect.
>does drugs
Terrible sign for your intellect and impulse control, you can't defend this as a smart thing to do.
>stole from parents
Also a really bad sign, people with moral fiber don't do this, even as teens.
>thinks parents are stupid/evil for expecting things of you
Actually somewhat true, won't draw conclusions from this, though most people would judge you badly for it.
>unironic "we live in a society", heavy misanthropy, "everyone is stupid and bad except for me"
All pretty bad signs, as normal though they may be.
>overall diagnosis
Possible low-key mental illness, probably very mild psychopathy or some kind of narcissism/superiority complex. Consult a therapist if your situation becomes unbearable. Would also recommend for you to move out of parents house ASAP, just as some general life advice.

[Anonymous No.4998983]

>>4997918
The "humble brag" guy. You feel bad because you know you can do better. Just remember that art's a long journey and that is not your last painting.

[Anonymous No.4999048]

Is it really possible to "make it" after joining the workforce full-time?
I had an internship last summer, 7am-5pm, and all I could do was work, eat, and sleep...

[Anonymous No.4999053]

>>4999048
I don't know but I'm certainly trying, its not working but I will keep trying.

[Anonymous No.4999062]

>>4996492
>Full of hostility
That's my baby

[Anonymous No.4999073]

>>4999048

I mean, you just HAVE to make it a daily thing and part of your daily schedule even if you don't feel like it. I've been drawing for two years or so total, and I've always worked full time.

[Anonymous No.4999079]

I keep wiping on my display tablet after erasing

[Anonymous No.4999083]

>>4999079
just use toilet paper like normal people anon

[Anonymous No.4999123]

My country is voting today, wish me lucky on not getting corongas because everyone here is a retard and voting is obligatory

[Anonymous No.4999137]

>>4997871
I relate to everything, except the good parts (like EARNING MONEY AND HAVING A FAMILY).

But I do have some wisdom to share, anon.
Has someone ever pushed meditation on you? It's gay as fuck, but it works for a reason. You seem to be the more rational type, so I can skip the aummms and get to the reason: shifting gears.

Stop taking breaks by doing other stimulating stuff. Sure, watching a movie or browsing Discord for the 99th time today might seem like a good idea to "slow down" after a good day's work, since it requires very little brain power.
But it's still stimulating your senses. Still bombarding your conscious mind with (easy) tasks, ideas, images.

Start noticing when you are getting overstimulated and take a break. Get up and do the dishes. Pet the cat. Take a walk. Just go stare at trees, as you put it.
Do that for a few weeks and you might start noticing a better sense of actual mental rest. Of not thinking about a million things, be it work, your grim future or dank memes. Enjoy peace and quiet in your own mind. Productivity is about doing often, not doing more, so let some time be wasted.

[Anonymous No.4999139]

I can't understand when people try to explain light and shadow because when they draw the light source it's 2d. my brain can't make sense of a 2d object in 3d space. is the light in front of the ball or behind it? and the light in this picture is like 1 inch away from the ball. these kind of diagrams don't make sense and i can't take anything away from them :(

[Anonymous No.4999161]

>>4998046
LOL you're fucked my guy, just jump

[Anonymous No.4999172]

Sweet fucking Jesus I love Beksinski so much. Every time I see his paintings I weep like a bitch. How does a simple man make such fucking gigantic art? The thought that I will never be able to make something this powerful makes me feel useless. The deeper I look into myself and into my own artwork the more I realize that I will never be able to match his level.

[Anonymous No.4999204]

Anybody else lost the ability to relax ever since picking up art and trying to improve? Every second or minute I spend not improving at drawing feels like I'm wasting my time. Of course, I do it anyway, I just feel insanely guilty and don't really enjoy myself. So I never truly take a break.

[Anonymous No.4999206]

>>4999139
The light is in front of the ball, it is perpendicular to the brightest point on the sphere. But yes it's more useful when they draw it as a 3d cone rather than a bulb

[Anonymous No.4999210]

>>4999139
Also to figure out roughly how far away it is you can draw lines from the cast shadow that touch the edge of the sphere, one at the bottom and one on top, and the light will be where they intersect. This diagram is pretty poor but it's just about how the sphere might be affected by light generally, not accuracy

[Anonymous No.4999227]

Anyone here feels shitty because their style doesen't match their inspirations?

[Anonymous No.4999241]

>>4999204
PYW

[moloc No.4999264]

>>4996508
Van Gogh started at 27
I'm not telling you you can be as great as him, but I'm telling you can become something great in your own right.
Just start.

[Anonymous No.4999269]

[moloc No.4999279]

>>4996966
pyw

[Anonymous No.4999309]

I wish I went to the artschool

[Anonymous No.4999322]

>>4999309
No you don't, I did and I got nothing out of it. Just commit to drawing instead of coping

[Anonymous No.4999381]

>>4999309
Dobson went to artschool. So going to it is no garantee you will fullfill your art objectives.

[Anonymous No.4999576]

im in "artschool" and im ngmi

[Anonymous No.4999579]

ngmi here
drawing is hard and i feel like i don't get anything after months
that is all

[Anonymous No.4999604]

>>4998544
Oh here we go, there’s always one of you fools here, coming in with the “boohoo, my life was super crap and I got raped and murdered and revived to suffer some more, but then I worked really hard and made it” nonsense.

First off, you’re assuming so much with little to go off of. I was never an “addict”, I had it under wraps, I just stole because it was convenient, plus it’s my parents fault I was suffering so much in the first place with their shitty “parenting”.

Next, this whole “victim mentality” isn’t just in my head, I actually am the victim of other people’s actions.

Third, I do work and take proactive steps to change my life, everything looks great on paper, I’m just resentful of it because I don’t like it.

>handsome
>smart
>charismatic
>/fit/
>employed part time
>full time student

I’m constantly trying to improve things, and I’m here to /vent/ about it when others screw me over, retard.
>>4998968
Thanks for acknowledging my actual issues anon, though I still think I’m normal, relatively speaking.

Therapy isn’t a super practical option rn, though I think it’s a meme anyway. I’m planning on at least getting good enough for some coomissions, and then saving up money along with a regular job before I ditch these losers and seek my own happiness. So probably within like a year, or two at most.

I checked my birthday horoscope and it said 2021 will be good for increasing my popularity and marketing, plus I’m good at getting the attention of others, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed and my nose to the grindstone so things work out for me.

I do need to keep a stronger grip on my anger though, feel dangerously close to snapping at times.

[Anonymous No.4999614]

>>4999604
this must the most masterful trolling in recent history, holy shit

[Anonymous No.4999633]

>>4999576
par for the course buddy

[Anonymous No.4999665]

My issue is that while I do something I realize how much better I could make it next time and I get upset with the result that's currently happening. I want to constantly improve and get better and that puts stress on the current WIPs

[Anonymous No.5000442]

tomorrow i will draw from dawn til dusk

[Anonymous No.5000472]

>>4999137
I liked this tip

[Anonymous No.5000497]

i'm too scared to actually learn how to draw so i just shit on begs that have potential.

[Anonymous No.5000544]

>>4999139
you can install blender and move light sources around meshes, it's super easy

[Anonymous No.5000560]

I hold zero tension in my body at all times.

Just the other day some large ne'er-do-well ran full speed at me on the sidewalk while I was looking down at my phone. He took a swing and I dropped like a bag of shit, back, away from the punch mitigating much of the initial force delivered from the untrained. In that time I realized what was happening and sprang back, fully erect, to deliver a headbutt from the perpetrator's jaw through to the moon.

Hold no tension, but be a rubber-band; not some wet noodle. We live in very troubled times.

[Anonymous No.5000784]

I have no friends, no family, nothing to do, nowhere to go. And I’m retarded and stupid. I can’t do anything right. I’m ngmi

[Anonymous No.5000880]

The past couple months before and during quarantine was great until:

>Relatives move in and buy tons of shit and cram the house. House is a fucking mess with less space to draw in.
>Have to move my sketchbooks to someplace. At one point it got soaked because of a rainwater leak.
>Noises of TV drama, newschannel and 30 mins of nonstop advertisement pierce my eardrums despite blasting EDM at 110% volume.
>Wifi is slow af with more than 12 now devices connected. I pay for 70% of the Wifi bills every month.
>While trying to sleep, I killed 3 adult bedbugs. Relatives brought a fucking infestation with them. Great.
>Fucked up my sleep schedule, spiral back into my porn addiction trying to cope.
>Stress out trying to draw as I try to collect my thoughts amidst the deafening noise from TV.
>I'm back at /ic/

I manage to fix my sleep schedule last month, build a working schedule of waking up, eating, drawing, bathing and meditating.
I still had to battle my porn addiction and other timesinks, but still manage to save hours for drawing.

>Inb4 suggesting "moving out"

There was an apartment room one of my aunts offered for me to move in, but because "She's from your father's side of the family, they're lunatics!"
they can't trust me living with them. Honestly, I just want some space, I find myself better relaxed and able to reflect with no one around. The fact
that there are more than 6 people in the room in a small house just gives me discomfort.

[Anonymous No.5000888]

>>4999172
The fact that I can't recognize a single object here disturbs me. It's uncanny in such a way, It's still appealing to look at.
>>4999579
>>5000497
What part of drawing is hard? It can be daunting starting out, but if you keep shaking in your boots you won't accomplish anything. Either you draw a shit art or don't, It'll be the same, at least with shit art you have something to look back to and you'll get your answer.

[Anonymous No.5000893]

>>5000880
Unironically move out. Pack your fucking bags, and godspeed from there.

[Anonymous No.5000919]

>>5000880
I want to suggest "move out" but I'm hesitant because I want to move out myself but there's barely anything available where I live and housing prices are off the charts and rising.
Renting has even more inflated prices and social housing cannot meet the huge demand.

I don't want much but I'm close to getting a camper and squatting at local campgrounds because I can't help but feel like a failure still living at my parents house at 27.

[Anonymous No.5000960]

Is it worth it to ever do commissions if you're not in art for the money?

I've had a few people ask for commissions but I'm afraid that it will kill my passion for art and I'll stagnate because I'll be more concerned about pleasing my client rather than trying to improve. But on the other hand I think that being forced to make art that I normally wouldn't might help me improve as well since I'm a former tracer and still very reliant on using references since my imagination sucks.

[Anonymous No.5000990]

I don't understand gesture and probably never will.
>you just need to "feel the form" bro
fuck off with the cryptic bullshit already

[Anonymous No.5000995]

>>5000560
>>5000784
Underrated posts

[Anonymous No.5000996]

How the fuck do you draw textures. Every time I try to render a tree or something I end up just scribbling like a fucking toddler

[Anonymous No.5000997]

>>5000990
Formlet

[Anonymous No.5001007]

>>5000996
There are so many ways to go about it, do you have an example of a tree rendered in a way you like?

[Anonymous No.5001055]

>>5000990
To simplify it to a brainlet the idea is if you can’t draw a good stick man you can’t draw a good person. Practice drawing stick men. Once you get the proportions and poses to look like natural humans start slapping on body parts from whatever your understanding of anatomy is. Eventually do this without the stickman

[Anonymous No.5001089]

>>5000880
>bedbugs
You gotta move. People get ptsd over those things

[Anonymous No.5001130]

>>5000990

Take a bottle in your hands with your thumbs together on the front. Follow the surface as you move your thumbs to the back of the bottle. Even with your eyes closed you can tell what your thumbs trace is a shape of an ellipse. Repeat it with any form to... feel it! You do the exact same thing with a pencil, you just do it on paper and in your imagination.

[Anonymous No.5001148]

i am only capable of drawing stiff anime girls in one pose and it makes me feel sick i have no idea how to step out of my comfort zone because im autistic

[Anonymous No.5001169]

>>4996492
of course, what normal person would devote decades to perfect a craft almost no one appreciates?

[Anonymous No.5001215]

Fuck this place and your shitstain mods who ban me for making "troll posts" but are OK with the crabs and schizos. I hope all of you faggots get aids and your children suffer post birth abortions.

[Anonymous No.5001226]

>>5001169
facts, it’s a super faggy endeavour. Pretty sure artists come from being bullied growing up. Now we’ve got the internet they’ve got an anonymous forum to communicate and all the faggotry and pent up impotent rage comes pouring out. Do yourself a favour socially and don’t associate with artists and writers. Musicians are a 50 50 hit and miss

[Anonymous No.5001305]

I only care about drawing from imagination. I think using references while drawing defeats the whole purpose of drawing. I don't understand why people sit around and congratulate artists on here for drawing something that looks 90% similar to another drawing.

What are you really teaching yourself? The perspective, foreshortening, pose, gesture, angles, this was all made available to you. It's like being handed an exam with 90% of the answers filled in. What kind of exam is that?

I just don't get it. I think about art in a totally perpendicular way. Again, artists that do this to make money, I understand. What I don't understand is the idea you have to do this in order to progress as an artist, do people not see this as a crutch?

Sometimes I even feel frustrated with myself when I complete a drawing and realize it's eerily similar to a photo/image I've already seen. I want to create new works of art, at least as new as I am able to generate.

[Anonymous No.5001311]

>>4996492
>Artists are some of the absolute worst people you can meet - either you are narcissistic, mentally ill, bitter, full of hostility, egotistical, psychotic and completely depressed.
>So which one are you?
All of them
And I'm still NGMI

[Anonymous No.5001315]

>But at the end of the day, who comforts the comforter?
>We only have each other, anons. So let's be kind to one another.

Thanks anon, this is comforting in itself.
I always feel so guilty complaining about problems that are specific to my freelancing art job or being a homemaker. Some of the people closest to me act like I'm just being a baby because I don't have a "real" job.

[Anonymous No.5001319]

>>5001315
>Thanks anon, this is comforting in itself.
The person who told you this might be a coomer, who is actively working to erase all beauty from this world.
Err on the safe side: hate everyone and be indiscriminately hostile.

[Anonymous No.5001721]

>>5001305
Humans are literally unable to produce original concepts all we're capable of is remixing ideas so everything you'll ever do or anybody has ever done will be a play on something observed or learned previously. As far as the test analogy goes would using the textbook or listening to the teacher be the same kind of cheating? The teacher is basically explaining the answer to you afterall.

[Anonymous No.5001748]

I want to keep drawing for /cm/ and /y/ but I feel very dirty and guilty for contributing as a f*jo.
I wish I wasn't one, so I could deliver to the drawthread again without feeling wrong. I think I draw well and I want to participate, but it feels like I am intruding, even if people don't know what I am. It's stupid, but it makes me sad cos I genuinely convinced myself I am parasitic for the board.
I have no one with similar interests so that space was my last haven to post art for fun. I miss it

[Anonymous No.5001763]

>>4996480
M’y back is starting to hurt. I’m only 20

[Anonymous No.5001766]

>take a long break from drawing
>collect cool designs in the meantime, have around ~800 images saved of stuff I find cool
>wish I could draw like them, can't draw for shit
>only time I can draw something remotely good looking is when I copy them
>draw something from imagination, hate it, repeat step for 1 weeks if not months

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK I JUST WANT TO BE GOOD
I already know I just need to go for the fundies and all that, but I'm always looking for the easy way out, whether it's clay modelling, 3D modelling, using 3D models as references etc, and it'll get me nowhere
pic related, can barely even remember the design I wanted to draw vs copying it and another one on the right

[Anonymous No.5001768]

>>4996492
I'm on 4chan, all of the above.

[Anonymous No.5001775]

>>5001766
You need to build your visual library, anon. Start memorizing things and redraw from imagination

[Anonymous No.5001780]

>>5001775
I suppose so, it's just that when I look at all the stuff in my folder like pic related, drawing something like it from thin air feels a thousand miles away
I'm extremely fucking shit at understanding how to draw in 3D too which is painful
I'll try doing more of what you said though, ty

[Anonymous No.5001914]

I am going to fucking fight the next artist I see with (Commissions closed) on their twitter handle.
Since I lost my day job to the kung flu the grapes have never been more sour.
Now I'm putting in a 9-5 looking for work while I do the few commissions I do get.
Pic related is a print I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.5001948]

>>5001748
are you implying that /cm/ and /y/ aren't infested with fujoshi. you'd be posting among your people

[Anonymous No.5001978]

>>4996480
i feel like my arts been getting shit lately, i just wanna improve, and im so fucking lonely, i just want FRIENDS. PLEASE INVITE ME A DISCORD SERVER OR SOMETHING

[Anonymous No.5001983]

>>5001948
>infested
Even the term you used shows how negatively anons see them. They seem to take the blame for any and all problems of the board for (usually) no good reason
As someone who only lurks with the occasional art delivery, I dislike feeling like I am part of that retarded minority
Just wish I could see pics and enjoy drawing for them without the constant bitching and derailing about fujos

[Anonymous No.5001989]

>>5001983
I'd work on building up your followerbase on social media, a portfolio and work on improving your own work instead of trying to pander to undeserving cretins by delivering the free art that they don't deserve.

[Anonymous No.5002052]

>>5001978
Ok, here you go: https://discord.com/invite/9MH7GC9

[Anonymous No.5002056]

>>5002052
this server sucks, i dont wanna verify my phone. i... also wanna be in an art server

[Anonymous No.5002104]

>>5000880
I'm trying to get my sleep together, but living with many people is indeed difficult.
Even if they're your best friends.

[Anonymous No.5002129]

>>5001983
But if you ship/draw gay art and are a woman everyone will call you a fujoshi, doesn't matter what your intentions are. Just be a good person, don't pair real life people together, and don't be obnoxious like most of them and don't give a fuck about the unchangeable views of others. Or you'll have to give up drawing your homosex artwork, as you will never escape the label.

[Anonymous No.5002164]

>>5002129
>if you do fujoshit things people will call you a fujoshit
that's so weird.

[Anonymous No.5002167]

>>5001763
Why doesn’t everyone sit with a straight back at an easel?

[Anonymous No.5002171]

>>5000560
a girl hit me with a volleyball once and I pretended to die

[Anonymous No.5002203]

>>5002129
>>5002164
I dont do any of those obnoxious things cos I know they suck
I just want to draw naked guys and browse pics of cute naked guys
Just wish I could do so without being guilt ridden for not having a dick. A few retarded fujos/anons spoil the board for the rest of us, and usually those who have no part in it feel worse for it

[Anonymous No.5002232]

>block 4chan in browser
>start playing solitaire to waste time

[Anonymous No.5002329]

>>4996508
nigga 20 is baby years in terms of starting art

there are morons out there who started at 67 and became world-famous artists

just follow your emotions and that sweet passion will flower naturally

[Anonymous No.5002421]

>>5002203
Just draw hot men then without the gay shit if it makes you feel so guilty.

[Anonymous No.5002422]

Yes (you), I'm behind the drawn mask. Now you cannot lay a finger on me anymore. Surprised? You should be. Now watch as I leap 10 years ahead in skill.

[Anonymous No.5002461]

>>5002421
>missing the point

[Anonymous No.5002464]

>>5002461
So you're point is that you feel bad because people don't like people who share your interest?

[Anonymous No.5002496]

>>5001748
>>5001983
>>5002203
I have a penis. I draw /cm/ and /y/ almost exclusively. I personally suspect most /cm/ and /y/ artists are female, or the ratio is very close to 1:1.

In general I think females do a better job at drawing cuteness. Female artists in my observation prioritize faces and expressions which gives their drawings a certain appeal. Male artists I think fixate on anatomy and the sex act. It's different flavors of the same thing.

I know women are, no offense, sensitive and they care very much about social expectations and what people think, things like that. But really anyone who gets upset over female artists drawing male characters is being ridiculous. Or incredibly stupid. /cm/ is already the most niche art category by a mile. /cm/ needs all the artists willing to draw for it that it can find.

[Anonymous No.5002513]

>>5002496
It actually felt comforting reading this for some reason, thanks anon
>I know women are, no offense, sensitive
Zero offense taken, it's the truth. I am venting about being sensitive of what others think after all

[Anonymous No.5002518]

>>5001748
Would it make you feel any better that over on /u/ over three thirds of the board are a bunch of larping trannies being lesbians?

[Anonymous No.5002530]

>>5002513
>It actually felt comforting reading this for some reason, thanks anon
That was the intention.
Honestly I think it's probably females/fujos who complain about fujos more than anything else. I assume it is fujos who deify gay relationships and these females who want their gay drawings to be "holy" within this framework; as in, drawn by a male. Even the most rabid yuri male fans don't care about this kind of thing, from what I've seen. So I can't imagine it's men making these posts.

[Anonymous No.5002531]

>>5002518
Really? I guess it is somewhat reassuring that all boards are equally stupid when it comes to stuff like this

[Anonymous No.5002538]

>>5002531
Yes, and we're polar opposites I've been wanting to contribute to /u/ for so long but never partook in any of the thread activities because of the fear of being ostracized for having a benis until I realized they're all gigantic faggots pretending to be lesbos complaining about being lonely. They just want to be pegged by a butch lesbian is all.

[Anonymous No.5002542]

>>5002530
>it's probably females/fujos who complain about fujos
Honestly, I can see that
No one hates women more than other women, and that's a fact. Not to mention the usual "I am not like other girls" bullshit. For whatever reason we are naturally antagonistic with each other, unavoidable but certainly tiresome
I truly wonder if all that bitching and moaning I keep seeing is really just a couple of very dedicated anons
That was enough to discourage me for a while, but again, venting and the replies I got really helped, much appreciated

[Anonymous No.5002545]

>>5002538
>we're polar opposites
Well, I sincerely hope the conversation helped you as much as it did for me then
We should just draw and stop caring that much

[Anonymous No.5002546]

>>5002545
No, it certainly didn't help you only reaffirmed how utterly stupid you all are.

[Anonymous No.5002561]

>>5002546
Who pissed in your cereal this morning?

[Anonymous No.5002567]

>>5002329
>there are morons out there who started at 67 and became world-famous artists
Who exactly? I have never seen anyone who started after 30 that makes good art. Yes, my definition of making it involves good art not throwing shit on a canvas for jew money laundering

[Anonymous No.5002584]

>>5002567
>too stupid to appreciate higher art
Back to drawing coom you pleb

[Anonymous No.5002603]

>>5002567
There was anon from Russian image board who started late and got into art academy at 32, which makes him automatically better that 87% of ic. Keep in mind, entry in these academies is merit-based and they teach actual academic art as opposed to smearing shit on canvas. Take whatever you want from it.

[Anonymous No.5002630]

>>5002603
If you could provide more info about him that would be great. Im looking for cases like that since there seem to be none at all and I want to be proven wrong.

[Anonymous No.5002687]

>>5002630
Earliest threads & images are dead
2ch dot hk/pa/arch/2019-02-01/res/157915.html

[Anonymous No.5002696]

>>4999264
Was Van Gogh good technically though? Were his fundies solid?
A lot of his work looks to me like he had to use heavy stylization as a crutch

[Anonymous No.5002736]

I want to bang my head against the wall repeatedly in an aggressive manner.
Sometimes I imagine not existing would be a lot easier than doing this

[Anonymous No.5002768]

>>4999264
no. he didn't. you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.5002773]

>>5000919
Yeah, other than the apartment recommended to me, everything else drains the crap out of my wallet. Camping somewhere else sounds like a good idea but my options here are limited. The feeling is mutual Anon, I am currently staying with my grandparents, things just got worse with lousy relatives moving in. Hope your situation there allows you to draw at your fullest.

Other than that I'm gonna pack some things up so I can catapult immediately myself out of here when given the chance.

>>5001089
I'm paranoid over those leeches, I can't get proper sleep without looking all over the mattress to at least kill one of these things. The nymphs or the tiny ones are absolutely the worst. Waking up to draw is difficult because of these leeches.

>>5002104
Goodluck on your endeavor Anon, the people here have blood ties to me so I can't tell them to fuck off or get their shit together without being excommunicated.

[Anonymous No.5002827]

I've spent more time worrying the past few days about how to improve and if I'm stagnating rather than actually drawing. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy

[Anonymous No.5002849]

>>4996480
>reply to some smaller artist to endorse him
>my followers are liking my reply instead of the drawing

[Anonymous No.5002953]

>>5001305
>It's like being handed an exam with 90% of the answers filled in. What kind of exam is that?
But how would you even take the exam without doing the homework first? Imagine if you were asked to explain exponents without knowing what multiplication was. It would be ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.5002959]

>>5001721
>would using the textbook or listening to the teacher be the same kind of cheating?
this is why i slept through my classes in school and never read the book. it's called honor, but you faggots wouldn't know about that.

[Anonymous No.5003089]

>>5002849
Ripperoni in pepperoni

[Anonymous No.5003137]

Right. Get on with some painting. Finish this self portrait. Got a lot on the go at the moment, verging towards exhibit-able. I could put on a show, but it's persuading a gallery that's half decent. Might be better just making my own promotional material. We know Gauguin displayed before his death, no one showed any interest. We know Modigliani exhibited, they called the police or something. He was a very rude man, probably the drink and the unhappiness.

[Anonymous No.5003258]

Tfw I could probably be better if I could just focus and have more patience with what I work.

[Anonymous No.5003322]

I'm not going to draw today. I'm just going to watch movies all day.

[Anonymous No.5003323]

>>5003322
based

[Anonymous No.5003435]

I want to draw "cute", "innocent", "beautiful", "soft", "fluffy"
The only thing I CAN draw is "gruff", "rough", "scary", "angry".
I like both, but my lack of progress in the former is frustrating...

[Anonymous No.5003478]

I'm so mad right now, a girl can show her fucking cleavage and get a ton of attention on social media, but if i spent 20 hours masterfully creating big fat milky tits with a small perfectly shaped waist and a huge delicious futa cock with cum dripping right off the tip, wearing a mini skirt that barely covers anything and that makes me the pervert.

OKAY.

[Anonymous No.5003496]

>>4996492
Well your not wrong

[Anonymous No.5003546]

>>5003478
Pyw, need a quick fap

[Anonymous No.5003712]

>>5003258
Have the patience of water eating away at rock

[Anonymous No.5003894]

>>4996492
im depressed
i honestly thought meeting a few artists would make me feel like i was in a community even if i was bad
but no one gives a shit about you, artists even just view other artists (at any level) as their audience
where i showed interested, and. wanted to know more about people and their process they would just tell you shit to boost themselves and not have an actual conversation or share knowledge.

these people just made me more depressed, fuck these people man

[Anonymous No.5003897]

>>4996548
>be the nerd around my irl friends at parties, music shows, etc...
>art friends think i'm a chad because i have a date every other month
its weird and i'm still a virgin too

[Anonymous No.5003916]

>>5003322
i wish i could just do that dude
my hand hurts and i still feel compelled to draw. i. want to keep drawing but i can't
i wish i could just want to do something else

[Anonymous No.5003944]

As far as artist day jobs go, I never thought I would wake up in a world where the whole eco shifts in the favor of introverts. All it took was for a pandemic scare and now more and more jobs are becoming remote and things like zoom the norm. What was just outlandish a year ago, masks, are required and will never go away.

And never move out of my parents house? Who the hell knows maybe in a few years we’ll all be forced to move into megacities and live in cheap pods....that’s the part that scares me. It all sounds good until it’s not.

[Anonymous No.5004025]

I have a almost finished drawing from 2 years ago and all i need to do is finish shading it but i just can't get the willpower to do so, have finished a bunch of shit but that damn drawing
>>5003478
To be fair, to get a pic of cleavage all it takes is 5 secs and a camera, most artists are only capable of spending 5 hours max on a single piece, if someone told me they spent 20 hours writing in a single paper about boats i'd think they were obssesed too
>>5003944
>masks, are required and will never go away.
The corona is going to turn into a slightly worse flu after a year or two, it's not really something that will really change societies that much besides some kids not having grandparents anymore

[Anonymous No.5004030]

>>4996492
>lurk around art communities
>places where everyone has a profile are hugboxes or circlejerks
>anonymous places like 4chan are full of bitter and insecure normies
>in front of you they give you canned praise but behind your back they say the worst stuff
>the crab meme is as real as it gets
>afraid to actually put good stuff out there
>afraid to show my skills because some autistic schizofaggot might feel threatened and start drama to cope
>multiply it by the amount of autistic "artists" on the internet
>can't even tell them off because they're completely delusional
>if you think mastering art is the biggest hurdle in this industry, it's not
>the biggest hurdle to overcome in art is being validated and acknowledged by a bunch of 20-40 year old mentally challenged insecure sociopathic social rejects who are still trapped in a high school mentality
>"You draw titties?"
>you bad
>"You draw what i don't like?"
>you bad
>"You draw better than me?"
>you bad
>"You said the wrong word and now i'm offended?"
>you bad
>"You have more numbers than me?"
>ooemgee i love u pls give me attention but u suck and i think im better than you
>"You have more numbers than me but made a mistake, put the wrong syllable in a word?"
>You suck and should be deleted from reality
>there is no way to avoid unless you quit putting your work out there
Which one am i?
I'm the one who got so sick of this shit that it has completely drained him of any emotions.
God, i wish the 'rona had a higher mortality rate than 0.6% then i would be fucking dead.

[Anonymous No.5004044]

>>5004030
paranoia disorder

theres a lot of sociopathic shit in the community but its really obvious and rarer than you think

[Anonymous No.5004058]

>>5004044
After seeing all the shit that goes around, it's difficult to not develop some slight paranoia.

[Anonymous No.5004061]

>>5004058
just draw dude, connect with artists of similar skill or better, genuinely, and it gets smoother from there.

[Anonymous No.5004098]

>>5004061
I do say what i think most of the time, people don't like it and I can't be bothered to play social games anymore, anon.

[Anonymous No.5004106]

>>5004098
not being autistic is something i take for granted, personally

[Anonymous No.5004108]

>>5003712
That's actually a good way of looking at it

[Anonymous No.5004171]

>>5004030
You're "egotistical", paranoid, or just plain stupid.
How in the flying fuck you you consider simply ignoring bullshit that people say to be harder than art? Why do you even care what random people think? Are you really drawing soley because you want popular validation? All of this sounds like some massive cope because you don't feel like practicing.

[Anonymous No.5004205]

I don't want to draw boxes, I want to draw faces lmao

[Anonymous No.5004234]

>>5004171
If i want to earn money with my work, shouldn't i be aware that i might garner fame?
Shouldn't i think about what people might think about my work if i want to sell it?
Shouldn't i be aware if people start to be jealous and actively sabotage my way up?
EVERYTHING depends on not getting on people's bad side.
But all is cope. All is cringe.
And i'm the bad guy for even trying to defend myself.
Arrest me for wrongthinking, i don't give a shit.

[Anonymous No.5004250]

>>5004234
Yes, but what exactly is it that you have to deal with that every artist doesn't have to deal with? How are people going to "sabotage" you? Do you think that artists who are really good just get deleted or have people not follow them because some other guy told them not to? Or is it
>NOOO I HAVE /pol/ BELIEFS AND I MUST SPOUT THEM AT EVERY AVAILABLE CHANCE
Yes, if you're like this, you might struggle, although even this still doesnt stop >shadman and quite a few other artists.

[Anonymous No.5004257]

>>5004250
This is the exact same shit i was posting about.
What in the living fuck are you even on about?
Go be autistic somewhere else please.

[Anonymous No.5004263]

>>5004257
I was asking why you think your special when there are many artists who have your "problem" and still succeed. If you're going to pull a schizo and literally fail to comprehend other people's points though, then there's no point in even posting, see a fucking therapist.

[Anonymous No.5004270]

>>5004263
>why do you think you're special
>stop being a schizo
>you fail to see other's points
Exactly what i was complaining about.
Do i get a veto on this or are you going to keep playing defendant,judge, jury and executioner?

[Anonymous No.5004315]

>>5004270


Believing in someone sometimes means taking a risk in what they believe, too. You can't feel close to someone if they still insist something you can't accept. For example, if I were to tell you that Chef Boyardee caused the Permian-Triassic Extinction Event, you wouldn't believe me, right? I mean, how could you? Chef Boyardee wasn't alive when the Permian-Triassic Extinction Event happened. And how could one person have nearly ended all life on earth, even monocellular? Is Chef Boyardee even a real person, or is he just a marketing gossamer for processed food? If it's up to me, insisting that Chef Boyardee caused the Permian-Triassic Extinction Event is a question of faith. I will never justify why I think this. Because believing in people means taking a risk. And that's a risk I'm willing to take

[Anonymous No.5004337]

Why are you still on this board?

[Anonymous No.5004348]

>my artstyle won't match all my inspirations
>I don't really how much time will pass until I git gud so having a 5 years plan seems to be irrelevent

How do I cope?

[Anonymous No.5004350]

>>5004337

I agave to finish what they started.

[Anonymous No.5004354]

>>5004337
I have to finish what they started.

[Anonymous No.5004370]

I wish I could quit art as a hobby forever.

I've gotten close but i always end up coming back to it and hating myself for it.

Why couldn't I have taken up programming or learning how to play an instrument or anything else more useful than fucking drawing?

Such a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.5004381]

>>5004337
Browsing this site is the easiest way I know to kill time

[Anonymous No.5004426]

>>5004370
No the fuck it’s not. It’s fun, it has an long time and eternal global history (how long have electric guitars been around), it’s precise, it has no limits, you can make friends, lots of women into it, you can teach others tricks easily, you can Impress family and make them gifts, you can appreciate art more, anyone can pick up a pencil and do *something* unlike an instrument

How is playing an instrument more useful?

[Anonymous No.5004455]

>>5004426
>fun
Dubious.
The results of drawing can be satisfying, but the drawing process itself is objectively tedious, tiresome, and frustrating.
>it’s precise, it has no limits, you can make friends, lots of women into it, you can teach others tricks easily, you can Impress family and make them gifts
None of that is exclusive to drawing nor is it entirely true you spergatron.

>How is playing an instrument more useful?
Use your brain you obtuse fruitcake.

[Anonymous No.5004470]

>>5004455
>>How is playing an instrument more useful?
>Use your brain you obtuse fruitcake
So, like I thought, instruments are the same exact tier as art. You can’t even list one thing.

[Anonymous No.5004480]

I finally figured out why a lot of the big twitter artists don't have art related jobs. It's because they're unlikeable assholes.

[Anonymous No.5004487]

>>5004470
Jesus christ you're autistic
>You can't even list one thing
Im not going to waste my time pointing out something that's obvious to non-retarded people. If you are incapable of using that grey matter in your skull to differentiate between the two, then that's your fault for being a moron.

[Anonymous No.5004491]

>>5004426
> it’s precise, it has no limits, you can make friends, lots of women into it, you can teach others tricks easily, you can Impress family and make them gifts
Pretty weak argument considering you can say the same for just about anything, which doesn't make it any more worth doing.

[Anonymous No.5004503]

>>5004487
You’re weirding me out. Music and art are the arts. They’re no $TEM. I can’t think of one fuckin’ edge a faggy piano or banjo has over art.

>>5004491
Then learn to garden, or collect stamps. Hockey? Boxing is also pretty awesome.

[Anonymous No.5004507]

>>5004503
You truly are stupid.
Want me to tell you how I know you're a third worlder?

[Anonymous No.5004511]

>>5004507
Go blow on a kazoo and see God why don’t you

[Anonymous No.5004514]

>>5004511
dumbfuck ESL
learn a language before you try writing in it.

[Anonymous No.5004517]

>>5004480
>artists
>insufferable cunts
you dont say?

[Anonymous No.5004519]

>>5004514
Obtuse fruitcake

[Anonymous No.5004523]

>>5004514
>Imagine being this illiterate

[Anonymous No.5004528]

>>5004519
>>5004523
dumbfuck ESL

[Anonymous No.5004532]

>>5004528
shut the up amerilard

[Anonymous No.5004535]

>>5004528
Spot the issues with this sentence aside from the casual omission of commas and a question mark: >>5004511

And in this post: >>5004503

I’ll wait.

[Anonymous No.5004542]

>>5004535
Wait for me to put a bullet in your dome, you 3rd world subhuman.

[Anonymous No.5004549]

>>5004542
>he can’t find any grammar issues
>nor can he say why learning and instrument is superior to art
Why bother filing out the captcha?

[Anonymous No.5004562]

>>4998321
Wow cunt, that hit a little bit to close to home for me

[Anonymous No.5004564]

>>5004549
Why bother typing in my language if you can't read it, dumb ESL?

[Anonymous No.5004570]

>>5004564
How do you know I’m ESL?

[Anonymous No.5004573]

>>5004570
Your over all stupidity and lack of literacy

[Anonymous No.5004802]

>have distinct art style
>suddenly realize I hate it

Neat!

[Anonymous No.5004927]

I just can't get any better, everything outside cubes and lines scares me. I just want to get out of this slump and have fun again

[Anonymous No.5004940]

How much money can I realistically expect to make from furry commissions with pic related as my current skill level?

[Anonymous No.5005024]

>>4999264
he also killed himself and so should you

[Anonymous No.5005025]

>>5004940
i bet you're giving yourself to much credit

[Anonymous No.5005031]

>>5005025
Just assume I'm not.

[Anonymous No.5005050]

I just spent the last 3 hours arguing about religion on /x/

[Anonymous No.5005090]

>>5005050
it is time not wasted if you enjoyed it

[Anonymous No.5005112]

>>4996492
I'm healthy, good shape, solid career, mediocre at drawing because I practice 30mins a day. Maybe being an artist isn't for me.

[Anonymous No.5005123]

>>4996492
I'm the exception and I agree with you.

[Anonymous No.5005182]

>>5004455
Speaking as someone who does art, music, programming, and writing, you're pretty much right, although it is unusual that you don't have fun drawing. If it bothers you so much, then why not just branch out? Drawing is the only discipline that fucks you if you never did it as a kid, the others are all very adult-friendly.

[Anonymous No.5005212]

>>5004455
>but the drawing process itself is objectively tedious, tiresome, and frustrating.
NGMI. Stop whining and do something else or find a way to make it fun.

[Anonymous No.5005254]

>>5004455
Speak for yourself, I make music and program in addition to drawing and find the process to be a lot of fun. Though programming's probably the most consistently satisfying because improvement is felt immediately and it doesn't rely on building your intuition, plus you get to reuse your code like a motherfucker. Music the most frustrating by far

[Anonymous No.5005256]

I was a tracer. I thought I was actually good at art because I could just combine a few references together and color them and have people complement me and make money off commissions.

I decided I wanted to stop though because I got tired of relying so much on references. But now that I actually have to rely only on myself to build the poses and anatomy it feels like hell. Is this what everyone else has felt like this whole time?

The temptation to go back to tracing is strong but now that I realize how much I was actually cheating myself, my pride wont let me. I guess I got to taste what its like to be a better artist than I am and now I have to go back to starting over from square 1.

[Anonymous No.5005274]

>>5005256
>I thought I was actually good at art because I could just combine a few references together and color them and have people complement me and make money off commissions.

what a retard you are

[Anonymous No.5005292]

>>5005212
>Stop whining
It's a vent thread retard.
>Do something else
Can you not read? Subhuman.

[Anonymous No.5005535]

>>5004940
mostly depend on your marketing skills

[Anonymous No.5005781]

what do I do if I'm ngmi

[Anonymous No.5005815]

>>5005781
Quit

[Anonymous No.5005868]

>>5005815
how about you suck my dick instead

[Anonymous No.5005873]

>>5005868
Only if you're cute

[Anonymous No.5006020]

>>5005781
Are you willing to do anything?

[Anonymous No.5006270]

>>5004573
You will not get the last word in. I will

[Anonymous No.5006306]

My fucking back is killing me

[Anonymous No.5006639]

@5006270
You lost, fool. Kys take the L and move on with your life

[Anonymous No.5007063]

>>5006306
how old are u

[Anonymous No.5007240]

>>5000880
read up on uv-c. seriously read up on the dangers(!!!!! I am 100% serious) it can kill bed bugs and mold. it does not pass through glass or solid objects but it fucks up DNA replication (esp your own) and kills little creatures. Expose your room for 30 min-1 hour, plug into a lamp with an extension outside the room. cover all cracks from the door as well. lift up you mattress if you have to. vent the room afterwards because it will produce ozone (you can smell it). It will sanitize all surfaces the light can reach.
Do not under any circumstances let any uninformed persons use the bulb. you can develop cancer and it will literally cook your skin if exposed. It can cause welder's flash which is very painful as well as blinding.
inform your family of the dangers. bulbs you order online do not come with safety sheets. do not hide it from them either bc it looks like a funky fluorescent bulb

[Anonymous No.5007250]

>>4996495
Am I considered old if I’ve been doing art for over 25 years¿?

[Anonymous No.5007265]

>>4996682
Can’t have a high IQ for everything.

[Anonymous No.5007272]

>>5007240
also bed bug covers exist
they are also probably in everyone's clothes as well. scary but it has to be a dedicated effort from everyone to get rid of them.
after i returned home after uni my brother got scabies. it was a massive effort from the whole family to wash all of our clothes and fully dry them. we also had so wash with sulfur soap as well. i got the uv-c lamp bulb to disrupt the bugs from being able to breed. we ended up tossing his mattress but the uv-c helped with the carpet and other upholstery.
we dealt with this for a month which is much shorter than normal due to effectively applying the insecticide cream at more frequent intervals than recommended. the biggest hurdle was him casting his belligerence aside as we were "treating him like he was infected". (he was). anyway. it's a huge pain to get rid of pests, but seriously, it is an issue that your whole household needs to address at the same time, no matter how much you dislike your family.

[Anonymous No.5007279]

>>4998513
I recommend peppermint tea, it relaxes the blood vessels.

[Anonymous No.5007283]

>>4999269
Truthful, I like it.

[Anonymous No.5007363]

>>4996480
I hate drawing in public because I either get judgmental stares from people, like as if unless I'm a master, I shouldn't be out there drawing with my shitty skills or I get a bunch of annoying people asking me what I'm drawing, then they see my art and just be like "oh okay"

[Anonymous No.5007384]

>>5005781
make it anyway

[Anonymous No.5007438]

>>5007063
21

[Anonymous No.5007471]

i fucked up a doodle so bad it shames me just thinking about it. worst of all i did it at work in the change room and everyone will probably see it.

[Anonymous No.5007492]

Start some painting. It's a beautiful canvas. The blue is glowing, it really is. All that effort paid off, it's very strong. It's a worthwhile object. Still am in some discomfort not as bad as it was. It's a lonely day today.

[Anonymous No.5007494]

>>5007438
how fat are you?

[Anonymous No.5007507]

>>5007494
Like 0%. I weight 60kg

[Anonymous No.5007688]

I hate myself
There are people who hate my art and it makes me hate myself

[Anonymous No.5007690]

>>5007438
I had back pain at your age. I'm betting that you do zero exercise and can't touch your toes. Try doing some stretching, or better yet, take up jogging. Walking around with your ass clenched can also fix pelvic tilt problems that you might have.

[Anonymous No.5007693]

How do you cope with friends having a bigger Twitter number than you?

[Anonymous No.5007699]

I can only draw for validation its the only thing i have pls help

[Anonymous No.5007769]

>>5007690
Bro I can lift the horse above my head. Probably got pains from the cold wind few days ago

[Anonymous No.5007774]

>>5007693

It means nothing to me. I know I can easily climb numbers if I cared to pander to current airing anime. But it's not important to me right now.

[Anonymous No.5007792]

What the fuck is Googles problem today? They could give old ladies heart attacks. I just went to search for something like usual and a tiny little leaf was floating down my screen that looked like an insect flying in front of me.

Who thought that was a good idea?

[Anonymous No.5007809]

>>5007792
That nigga is afraid of insects

[Anonymous No.5007816]

I held a long conversation with someone on discord today!! I haven't done so in years! Yay!

[Anonymous No.5007819]

>>5007816
it was a chatbot

[Anonymous No.5007822]

>>5007819

no no it was a real person I swear

[Anonymous No.5007876]

>>4996613
Huge feet

[Anonymous No.5007886]

>>4998054
Who shit on you? The teacher or the students?
Is that your work? Because if it is idk who would shit on that, that's ridiculous.
Sure, you can always make some improvements, but to get shit on? I don't get it