/dtg/ - Drawing Tablet General

[Anonymous No.4993565]

This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware: non-display graphics tablets, pen display tablets, portable tablets and more.

>What should I buy?
State your:
>Budget
>Location
>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
>Size (in inches)
>Other information
>Previous equipment

If you have any additional questions, ask them.

>Recommended tablets:

Intuos Pro 2013 - Great value, and the nibs won't wear out in 5 seconds like they do on the newer model.
Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite - Budget portable display tablet. Very solid drawing experience with Wacom EMR tech.
Used iPad Pro 2nd Gen 12.9" - Best option for a display tablet.
Used Cintiq 22HD - The only worthwhile large display tablet
Galaxy Tab S7+ - Good premium alternative to an iPad Pro

>Avoid:

XP+Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand - Poor build quality, lackluster pens, bad tilt, horrible customer support and the displays are not calibrated. All Chinese brands are basically the same because they're all centralized. Also watch out, Chinese Companies are known to shill aggressively, even on 4chan.
Cintiq Pro - Terrible value. The drawing experience might be good, but you're paying way too much for an unreliable product. Dead pixels are frequent, as are black screens of death.
Microsoft Surface Pro - The N-Trig digitizer means you will always get wobbly lines.
Lenovo - Bad drawing performance.

Previous: >>4979137

[Anonymous No.4993576]

Remember to avoid buying Chinese Tablets like XP-Pen and Huion. They still have a wide variety of problems.

[Anonymous No.4993578]

Intuos 3

It's all you will ever need.

[Anonymous No.4993580]

Finna get a intous pro bros

[Anonymous No.4993586]

>>4993578
Got a intuos 3 medium off ebay a few days ago and I'm loving it.

[Anonymous No.4993591]

>>4993565

[Anonymous No.4993597]

>>4993565
He's still going for it isnt he.

[Anonymous No.4993605]

>>4993576
Nop. Thats just a faulty unit. Your tired webm has been debunked.

Plenty of legit reviews showing it working fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHAcc5r6qb4
https://youtu.be/ANWe6qJlLh4

https://youtu.be/NMmKvPUsbFg

Keep calling me a shill if that makes your blood pressure decrease, I dont care. But if you do buy a $400 non display tablet with a cuck sheet, notify me so that I can belly laugh at your gullible ass. Schizo need to reply.

[Anonymous No.4993611]

>>4993605
It's 3 different units from 3 different videos, chinese idiot.

[Anonymous No.4993613]

>>4993611
Holy fuck, 3 faulty units? CHRIST ON A BIKE, PACK IT UP BOYS

Actually no, Ill do what you do and say this instead

>You cant prove its not the same unit shill, idiot moron idiot etc

What dyou think about that?

[Anonymous No.4993614]

>>4993613
They're chinese tablets, they're nothing but faulty units, Zhang.

[Anonymous No.4993618]

>>4993614
>>4993605
false.

[Anonymous No.4993624]

china on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.4993640]

Anybody here use a laptop? Or should I go for a desktop. My old MacBook just went caput

[Anonymous No.4993648]

>>4993565
>400 bucks
>romania
>display
>previous equipment trad
Anons, should I get an wacom one 13 or a ipad 10.2, the wacom is cheaper because I dont have to buy the stylus. What do you recommend

[Anonymous No.4993673]

>>4993648
why not grab a used ipad 11" or 12.9"?

You should also consider the Galaxy S6 Lite; even a gypsy can afford it.

[Anonymous No.4993678]

What's the best stylus that's compatible with ipad 3?

I bought an ipad 3 mostly for displaying images that I can trad paint from, but is it good enough to do a little fucking around in procreate?

[Anonymous No.4993681]

>>4993673
The cheapest used one of the ones you listed were 600 euros. Also the average person makes 500 bucks a month in most of eastern europe, so 600 is a lot

[Anonymous No.4993698]

>>4993580
Update i got the pth860 im pumped

[Anonymous No.4993700]

>>4993648
how attached do you want to be on your desktop computer? I would go with the ipad.

[Anonymous No.4993702]

I really wish those chinese tablets were passable quality because I don't want to spend more than ~$100 and a tablet that isn't tiny would be nice

[Anonymous No.4993719]

>>4993702
How about buying used wacoms? Wacom sells refurbished ones at a way lower cost

[Anonymous No.4993720]

>>4993700
>how attached do you want to be on your desktop computer? I would go with the ipad
I dont really care, I have a pretty good laptop and it doesnt bother me to have the drawing tablet strapped to it, is the difference between the quality of the wacom one and the entry level ipad thst noticeable?

[Anonymous No.4993738]

The HP pen Deco 01 V2 has had good reviews if you search for reviews, but people in this thread are staying all HP pen are shit. I don't really want to spend a lot of money and they are about £60 in the UK. Has anyone actually used one?
I'll wait for black Friday sales to see what is on offer, but I do t want to spend more than £100 to find a tablet.

[Anonymous No.4993762]

>>4993738
Yeah, works fine. Dont let the schizo tell you otherwise, he's already gotten to you by making you unsure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYW8NPGOuho

[Anonymous No.4993882]

>>4993681
The S6 Lite is 300 euros

[Anonymous No.4993886]

>>4993738
Just get an Intuos 3 on ebay then. Still used in the industry, extremely reliable and cheap.

[Anonymous No.4993932]

>500€
>France
>display
>15"
It's for school so it needs to be reliable. I'd like to avoid used products.

[Anonymous No.4993940]

>>4993932
xp pen 15.6 pro

[Anonymous No.4993986]

>>4993932
No options lol, you'll have to take Chang's suggestions for unreliable chinese tablets.

[Anonymous No.4994016]

>>4993762
cool thanks. i had watched v2 reviews but they were shitty videos.

>>4993886
>Intuos 3
i'll check that out but it looks too heavy/bulky at first glance. i appreciate the suggestion, thanks.

[Anonymous No.4994321]

is there a place where i can see the sale history of xppen stuff? on the official website specifically
i cant use amazon trackers because the sales come from coupons so its not accurate
waiting for a christmas sale for artist pro 15.6

[Anonymous No.4994334]

>>4993640
I'm using a laptop but get a desktop, it's a much better (and possibly cheaper) experience.

[Anonymous No.4994400]

>>4994334
yeah, I'm thinking you're right. Gonna go for a desktop

[Anonymous No.4994447]

can a non-display tablet bro please post their work
or works done by people using non display tablets?
my worry is i wont be able to draw good, precise lineart with one

[Anonymous No.4994562]

>>4994447
You get what you pay for after all. The less expensive the device, the more inaccurate it is.

With a regular tablet you can still make pretty accurate lines like depicted on the left, but if you want super tight linework like the right you'd need a cintiq.

[Anonymous No.4994614]

>>4994447
This was done on an Intuos Pro 3. Artist is Feng Zhu.

Using a display or a non-display tablet is really just down to preference. Both work just fine as long as you learn to use them.
Personally I use a display tablet because that's what I prefer.

[Anonymous No.4994630]

>>4994614
thanks. though the lineart there is really rough and aided by the great rendering, so not really what im looking forim guessing i should look for a display one

[Anonymous No.4994634]

>>4994630
Whatever floats your boat, you can look up the FZD design cinema series to look at how he works and I can guarantee you he has better lineart than 99% of /ic/ will ever have.
If you want a display tablet that's fine, as I said, I use one because I prefer it. But it is 100% bullshit that you can't do good lineart on a non-display tablet, and you're not handicapping yourself by buying an Intuos or any of the competitors equivalent products.

Get the tool that suits your needs, and get it for the right reasons is all I'm saying.

[Anonymous No.4994659]

>>4994634
oh no I'm definitely not doubting his skill, he mogs me hard
but that lineart is mostly abstract and i dont doubt it being possible without a display
but im thinking of less abstract line art like pic. just chose the first thing i could find. i imagine that would be pretty painstaking with just a pen tablet

[Anonymous No.4994673]

>>4994659
What do you think of the line art of the right image?
>>4994659

[Anonymous No.4994675]

>>4994659
What do you think of the line art of the right image?
>>4994562

[Anonymous No.4994677]

>>4994675
nice and very precise. i imagine they mustve used physical rulers for most of it

[Anonymous No.4994683]

>>4994677
Hohoho

It's actually Feng Zhu with an Intuos
The left was made using a Cintiq.

[Anonymous No.4994687]

>>4994683
damn. i did consider that left was actually with a cintiq. shit comic artists can usually afford them and more

[Anonymous No.4994688]

>>4994562
Fucking clueless retard non artist lmao.

>>4994447
A display tablet wont magically give you more abilities or enable you to create more advanced work. Thats up to your skill entirely, the tool wont magically make you better in terms of lineart, rendering, anything.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/5YJ3A

This artist does all his work on an intuos 3

[Anonymous No.4994690]

>>4994562
you have no idea what you are talking about wtf

[Anonymous No.4994691]

>>4994687
Feng Zhu runs his own school, earns more than that comic artist and still uses a non-display tablet.
https://fzdschool.com/

Food for thought huh.

[Anonymous No.4994696]

>>4994690
>>4994688
Sorry guys I thought he'd pick up on it but he didn't fall for the obvious bait.

[Anonymous No.4994697]

>>4994691
again im not implying hes not extremely skilled
does he have any live demonstration videos with the intuos?
>>4994688
of course it wont. same goes for any hobny
but i imagine a disply tablet will make it easier for me regardless of how skilled this dude is

[Anonymous No.4994700]

My wacom pen spontaneoulsy loses the cursor. I have to move the pen away from tablet and back to it, then the cursor snaps back to the tip. It happens in Photoshop almost every minute and it slowly drives me mad. Can't find anything related in google, any idea how to fix this?

[Anonymous No.4994702]

>>4994697
He has a youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/user/FZDSCHOOL/videos

[Anonymous No.4994704]

>>4994697
Youd get used to the disconnect quite quickly. Your brains pretty good at the coordination, you already use a mouse with no issue whatsoever. If you want to get the most natural feel possible, youd want to get as little size difference between your display and tablet as possible so that a one inch stroke on your tablet = one inch line on your display. Its not vital and youd accustom to whatever size you get quickly, but if you're extremely used to traditional drawing thatd be the easiest way to transition.

[Anonymous No.4994711]

>>4994704
i actually do already use a pen tablet... but it's pic related, 3"x4* drawing area
so that may be why i find it so hard to believe that such precise lines are possible

[Anonymous No.4994719]

>>4994711
Nigga what

[Anonymous No.4994773]

>>4994711
>so that may be why i find it so hard to believe that such precise lines are possible

Yes, that is why.
Holy shit man, new 11*6 tablets are 60$ and the are much better. At this point everything is better than that

[Anonymous No.4994802]

Cintiq 13, still working perfectly after 6 years. It's worth buying expensive equipments, especially chairs.

[Anonymous No.4994873]

>>4994659
Pic related has been using a non-display tablet for a long time and still ticked it although he got a display tablet https://twitter.com/HAPPOBIJIN/status/733506786255196160..
https://www.pixiv.net/users/711257/artworks now use a one by wacom but has been praising the intuos (not even the pro) for a very long time on his streams and most of what you can see on this pixiv page has been drawn with the intuos.
https://www.pixiv.net/users/208004/artworks ticket non-display tablet https://twitter.com/blue_andwhite/status/732096045497245696..
https://www.pixiv.net/users/11486018/artworks ticked non-display tablet https://twitter.com/suzuhohotaru/status/769169494421807105..
https://www.pixiv.net/users/28594590/artworks ticked non-display tablet https://twitter.com/natakokone/status/731748321690181632..
That's a few examples but you can easily find a lot more artists who don't do "abstract" lineart with non-display tablet.

[Anonymous No.4994912]

>>4994630
If you've been watching Feng's videos, you'll know that the reason why his lineart is rough is because he uses an old ass version of photoshop without stabiliser/smoothing. Photoshop is widely regarded as having the worst lineart for a reason, it's for painting in and if you want lineart amazing you'll need lots of patience and redrawing. Do you know that manga artists might trace their lineart like six or seven times before it's perfect? If you want awesome manga lineart, use CSP or SAI with a stabiliser. Sometimes it will be 100% be vector lines for perfect width alteration after drawing.

And before you buy into the schizo's screen tablet meme for epic lines, keep in mind that A)Your hand will be covering part of the screen B) There is parallax on all except the most expensive tablets and C) You could be smearing your hand over that hot or glassy screen which is a lot less sexy than it sounds because of the friction. Especially if you are sweaty, this is an issue.

If you can, try out someone else's tablet before you buy it.

[Anonymous No.4994921]

>>4994711
IS THIS AN ANTIQUE????

[Anonymous No.4994934]

>>4994912
The problem with photoshop isn't the stabilizer or lack thereof, there's something shitty with photoshop's brush engine, you just can't have a thin crisp line, it always ends up blurry unless you're using a 15px line on a 10K canvas. In Krita or anything else really you can realistically have a 5 px brush for lineart and work on a 3k canvas.
In photoshop you can't do that, you use 20px lines on fuckhyge canvas just because it's sorta blurry.

And frankly Photoshop today is just bad for everything other than bashing maybe. It was never an art program, some ancient industry dinosaurs keep using it for the sole reason they are used to it.

[Anonymous No.4994936]

Here's my linework with a Deco Pro.

I use a minimal stabilizer, relying on heavy stabs turns it into some weird slo-mo bullshit chug that's even more difficult to steer.

[Anonymous No.4994937]

>>4994934
>>4994936
This is a point thats important to note, its all well and good having a pen with zero jitter but if you even use the slightest stabilizer all of that becomes irrelevant. Youve passed the load onto the software.

[Anonymous No.4994939]

>>4994937
To be honest I learned about the concept of pen jitter years after getting a chink tablet, I never noticed it, mostly because i don't draw straight diagonal lines that much.

When I did I tested it on my Deco 01 non-v2 and shit It actually had some significant line waving and shit. i was upset.

Then i got a Deco pro and well look for yourself.
I don't have a ruler so check my freehand.

[Anonymous No.4994942]

>>4994939
Did your old deco have jitter even with a stabilizer?

[Anonymous No.4994948]

>>4994934
Photoshop works fine if you have godlike sketching abilities like Feng, but for everyone else the only thing you'll be doing in PS is painting. PS has the most and the best brushes for it.

[Anonymous No.4994949]

>>4994936
Using too much stabiliser is a bad thing. The key is finding the right amount.

[Anonymous No.4994962]

>>4994939
My old wacom bamboo small had shoelacing in Photoshop and jagged curves which I chalked up to Photoshop being shit and my computer being shit because SAI and CSP worked fine but now I wonder if SAI and CSP was compensating for that shit. Sometimes when I alt tabbed too fast CSP's cursor would flicker like crazy for two whole minutes.

I think it was the tablet itself. Because when I got my intuos pro, I no longer had to reset tablet services twice a day, nor did my microusb constantly become disconnected resulting in the need for resetting, nor did I have PS shoelacing or weird jaggy curves.

I also don't want to tell a weird awful emo story about my old bamboo, but I still miss it a lot despite the fact that it sometimes sucked and wish I hadn't accidentally killed it the way I did.

[Anonymous No.4994967]

>>4994942
I still have my Deco 01, here I dusted it off and used my new Deco Pro as a ruler on the left.

On the right is Deco Pro with Deco 01 used as a ruler.

Stab settings are what i usually use on both.
Light stab doesn't really suppress jitter because the waves are rather long the tablet just thinks you're drawing a wave rather than a straight line.

But seriously, i've been drawing for years and never noticed that in real application.

[Anonymous No.4994970]

>>4994967
Picture.
>>4994948
Photoshop works, fine. But it's not really the best at anything. It's not the best painting program, and sertainly not the best drawing one.
The only reason it's still used is because it has 20 years worth of brushes, materials and already trained professionals, it has schools established and books written around teaching it. But it's not the objectively better tool.

>>4994962
It's both, the bamboo is shit and CSP and SAI are both compensating a lot.

[Anonymous No.4994976]

Anyway here's a picture i drawn years ago on a Huion h610p with a rechargable pen in Photoshop but I think I used Lazy Nezumi plugin.

The reason i dumped PS for Krita is because of the workflow. Everything about PS is just uncomfortable and Krita just lets me draw quicker,

[Anonymous No.4994985]

>>4994970
Photoshop is the most sensitive to any and all fuckery, be it lack of confidence in your drawing or tablet issues that other programs compensate for.

[Anonymous No.4995151]

I'm looking for a graphic tablet, one with a display. I'm in canada, my budget is 300 CAD.

[Anonymous No.4995154]

>>4995151
>I'm in canada, my budget is 300 CAD.
The decent ones start at 350 USD.
You either need a bigger budget for Artist pro 15.6 or get a screenless.

[Anonymous No.4995229]

What's the difference?

[Anonymous No.4995292]

>>4995229
A dollar more for faster shipping.

Do you not know how marketplaces with multiple sellers work?

[Anonymous No.4995297]

>>4994562
>>4994683
oh fuck, you got me.

[Anonymous No.4995330]

>>4995292
>Do you not know
No.

I refreshed the page and they have the same shipping.

[Anonymous No.4995355]

>>4995229
>>4995330
>60$
>a couple buttons and a scroll wheel
Google "Delux designer keyboard"

[Anonymous No.4995364]

>>4995355
>"Delux designer keyboard"
>Sorry, this item is no longer available!
why did you do it to me, anon

[Anonymous No.4995367]

>>4995355
Why would I want this over something handheld and more portable for drawing?

[Anonymous No.4995376]

>>4993678
>>4993678
>>4993678
>>4993678
>>4993678

pls someone

are there certain specs I should look for or what?

[Anonymous No.4995382]

>>4995367
Because this has more programable keys. If you just want like 3 buttons stick to your keyboard. If you want it so badly, just get it. There are other key mappers.

[Anonymous No.4995391]

>>4995376
Don't you appletards have your own fucking thread?
I don't know, who the fuck uses ipads? Go to your apple walled garden and ask there.

[Anonymous No.4995395]

>>4995367
Looks like a good thing. if you're using a laptop or something portable you could place it next to your tablet and use all the hotkeys you need.

[Anonymous No.4995485]

>>4995391
>who the fuck uses ipads?

[Anonymous No.4995487]

>>4994873
thanks bro
you just made my decision 10x harder lol
>>4994773
>>4994719
>>4994921
hahah yeah its definitely time to move on. been using it for 13 years now

[Anonymous No.4995498]

>>4995376
The only stylus I would recommend is the Apple Pencil, and if your Ipad doesn't support it then I'm not really sure if it's worth using it for drawing.

>>4995391
Plenty of people use Ipads for drawing, it's a great product. Even some tradfags like it because it reminds them of their sketchbook so much.

[Anonymous No.4995591]

>>4995487
>you just made my decision 10x harder lol
Why? Now you know that the screen is unnecessary and can save a few bucks by buying a non-display tablet without any regrets.

[Anonymous No.4995626]

>>4995391
Appletards pay to get inferior specs, do you really think they are capable of critical thinking?

[Anonymous No.4995630]

>>4995626
Indeed, Xiang. If only people realized how superior our plastic chinese tablets were.

[Anonymous No.4995633]

>>4995395
not vital to making good art but i still think it'll help me
also question:
i have a dual monitor setup. in order to use my current tablet, i have to change it to single screen otherwise it works across both screens and makes for bad times. do modern pen tablets let you use the tablet over one specific screen in a dual screen setup?

[Anonymous No.4995634]

>>4995633
nevermind im just retarded. just found it in the wacom settings. i shouldve figured

[Anonymous No.4995645]

>>4995630
t. coping apple tranny who has never used a functioning device his entire life
Keep drinking soi and identifying as a black woman and while getting assfucked by your walled garden
https://www.apple.com/diversity/
Is there a company more cucked and soi than the one apple sheeples think will give them two GB less ram from and several ghz less performance?

Keep coping, appletranny and remember to keep paying the kikes 5 times more for repairs or get refused service

[Anonymous No.4995651]

>Apple manufactures their shit in China
>sells their shit for 10x more in markups
>appletrannies unironically think this is a good deal
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
PFTTTT HAHA

[Anonymous No.4995652]

itoddlers on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.4995653]

>>4995645
>>4995651
>ching chong still desperately trying to sell poor quality xp pens

[Anonymous No.4995663]

>>4995653
>>4995653
>t. buying Chinese devices at multiplied price at a marked up deal
BRAVO APPLETRANNIES B R A V O

[Anonymous No.4995673]

>>4995652
Remember to CONSOOM apple products

[Anonymous No.4995676]

>>4995652
based

[Anonymous No.4995682]

Imagine trying to patent a black rectangular device with a rectangular screen. I'm thinking that apple is very based and that the trademarked Apple Pen will improve my artwork by 50% when I also apply it with an application like Procreate Apple Approved TM

[Anonymous No.4995692]

>>4995676
'It's not a product, it's a religion'

[Anonymous No.4995713]

http://https//sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/
Reminder to keep drinking apple soi so that it can more accurately keep timestamps on every application you ever used and phone it home

[Anonymous No.4995716]

sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/
Reminder to keep drinking apple soi so that it can more accurately keep timestamps on every application you ever used and phone it home

[Anonymous No.4995723]

/dtg/ really is the /g/ of /ic/.

[Anonymous No.4995743]

>>4995723
Ahaha yeah, I nearly got into /g/ mode when >>4994711
posted thinking, I had that, that is a serial device, computers post 2007 rarely comes with a com port and even if motherboards have the headers, you'd need to get a com lpt I/O plate and then wire it up. Then again this is not guaranteed to work.

And you can't just use a serial to usb adapator either, need at least a teeny with custom firmware and to get it to work with windows 10 you actually have to use a windows vista driver.

I had one of those since 2004 but like wow, I can't believe he's is still using it for 13 years.

[Anonymous No.4995787]

>>4995743
sorry i didnt take a good look at the picture before i posted it.
ive been using it for 13 years but mine is just a regular usb A 2.0

[Anonymous No.4995810]

>>4995743
It just shows you how long those old wacoms last. Holy....

[Anonymous No.4995813]

>>4995810
too bad it sucks ass

[Anonymous No.4995817]

>>4995813
Rip lol.

[Anonymous No.4995825]

>>4995813
Fucking this.
I had a Wacom Graphire 4 and it was atrocious. I upgraded to a chink with a battery pen and HOLY SHIT IS CAN DRAW I thought my hands were fucked up or just that the drawing was hard, nope, turns out old tablets are just shit.

[Anonymous No.4995849]

>>4995825
I agree the graphire was shit.

The intuos 2 in my opinion was the first decent tablet from the old line.

[Anonymous No.4995850]

>>4995825
I just wish I could get stuff sent to me for free, the way Yueko got a free screen tablet from xp pen to review reeeeeeee.

[Anonymous No.4995877]

>>4995850
Dude the tablet pays for itself in one naked anime girl you draw with it.

[Anonymous No.4995917]

so huion recently annouced new kamvas 12 and 16 inch display tablets. is it just me, or is the jump in price
from the 13 to the new 16 inch really high? the price difference from 12 to 13 make sense and so does the 16 to 22. shouldn't the price for the 2021 kamvas be something like 300 instead of 399? is it because most people will buy the 16?

[Anonymous No.4995919]

>>4995825
I had the same experience but switching from a huion kamvas pro 13 to an intuos 3 medium.

[Anonymous No.4995936]

>>4995626
guy who posted the question about the ipad;
I paid $90 for an Ipad 3. What should I have bought instead? I sincerely doubt you'll find anything.

Posting from a $175 x220

[Anonymous No.4995937]

>>4995645
Post your work.

[Anonymous No.4995989]

>>4995937
(lol
>>4982651

[Anonymous No.4996010]

>>4995917
Just from the area, the jump from 13" to 16" is around 50% more.

So with that alone it's a minimum of $360.

So with the increase of production cost for a larger surface, larger packaging, increased price for logistics (you get it), the luxury tax and scaled profit margin, the $399 price tag actually looks very reasonable.

[Anonymous No.4996013]

>>4995936
This is the single functioning braincell of an Apple moron
>only useful application on their iBrick is Procreate
>The rest of the applications you can suck watered down lifetime subscription iDick for
And then you pay for the inconvenience of having to relearn how to use actual art programs when you are introduced to the real world and have to stop playing with toys with featuresets aimed at toddlers.

[Anonymous No.4996183]

>>4996010
that makes sense, but then shouldn't the 22 be more expensive?

[Anonymous No.4996458]

>>4995989
I don't get it. Are you telling me you've acted like a jackass and someone else told you to post your work?

Maybe this is a sign you don't know how to draw.

[Anonymous No.4996466]

>>4995917
>xp pen and huion have released new 16” tablets
is wacom expected to release anything before the end of the year?

[Anonymous No.4996524]

>>4996458
Maybe this is a sign that you're a retarded ngmi faggot who's too afraid to post his work just like every shitter in the battlestation thread.

[Anonymous No.4996687]

>>4994630
>the lineart is rough

The rough sketch in a piece of concept art is rough? Holy fuck imagine that. Stop looking for justification

[Anonymous No.4996694]

>>4994711
A modern motherboard won't even have the necessary I/O for that fucking ancient thing. Get an Intuos 3 already and stop worrying

[Anonymous No.4996697]

>>4994700
Are you wired? Is this a tablet with BT enabled?

[Anonymous No.4996703]

>>4995229
>>4995355
What do you guys think of Junji Ito's Homemade keypad? It looks nice for using it without looking because of the tactile buttons. I'm thinking of making something similar, just get something and replace the keycaps with a bunch of weird caps.

https://youtu.be/eNNExwJMR6g?t=2300

[Anonymous No.4996720]

>>4996703
From the n52 to the latest Tartarus, I never felt the need for tactile bumps as your hand is always at the home position with those things.

Comfort-wise I like the orbweavers but the tartarus has a scroll wheel which is nice to change brush sizes though a little unwieldy.

[Anonymous No.4996849]

>>4996697
Yeah, it's wired Cintiq 16

[Anonymous No.4996876]

well there you go folks

you only need even the shittiest screenless tablet - it's all about you skill!

[Anonymous No.4996920]

>>4996876
>this person unironically replicated the coveted Rei17 art style with the shittiest tablet known to mankind
Nice

[Anonymous No.4996944]

>>4996876
>wank lotion on the table

imagine needing product assistance just to masturbate

[Anonymous No.4996962]

>>4996876
>big monitor
>small tablet size
HOW?

[Anonymous No.4997003]

>>4996876
this dudes got a $300 chair and a $20 tablet lmao

[Anonymous No.4997004]

>>4996876
niggah is professional..
I just started figure drawing and I cant even translate my art from pen and paper to digital, its literally impossible and il never understand how you guys are comfortable drawing like this. I use a small surface like yours and my digital art looks like where I was 3 months ago on paper. How do you manage to translate your skill so well? I have adobe 2020, what do you think I should do to get more comfortable? I just cant shake the feeling that my art is wrong when using a surfaces.

[Anonymous No.4997009]

>>4996876
Well, no shit?

[Anonymous No.4997015]

>>4997003
health>drawing

[Anonymous No.4997019]

>>4997004
That is not anon, that's another artist
1) Pick up a medium tablet
2) If you're aiming for a style like Rei's, for the love of god do it in paint tool sai 2 beta and NOT Photoshop (I've used pretty much all the main applications CSP/SAI/PS for between half a decade and a decade so I know the differences between them) and only bring it into PS for the colouring alterations.
3) You can expect to transfer your skill over in the end. It just takes a while

[Anonymous No.4997057]

>>4997019
>paint tool sai 2 beta and NOT Photoshop
any recommendations for Mac? i am using PS, is it really worth getting something else? i am a total beginner so i wouldn't be losing much by shifting product.

[Anonymous No.4997061]

>>4997057
SAI should run on Mac I think?
https://www.deviantart.com/waffleflufff/art/How-to-Run-Paint-Tool-SAI-on-a-Mac-Pen-Pressure-742179455
This is the crack I used on the latest SAI 2 beta: https://www.sendspace.com/file/ngp17i
Basically PS has the best colour manipulation tools hands down but it blends like crap

[Anonymous No.4997069]

>>4996876
>it's all about you skill!
I have none though???

[Anonymous No.4997071]

>>4997069
no one is born with skill, practice + hard work will get you where you need to be!

[Anonymous No.4997073]

>>4997019
Why do you think ps>sai for coloring? Is ps the best for coloring?

[Anonymous No.4997078]

>>4997073
That depends on what you mean by "colouring"
Rei style = SAI for sure because of SAI being godlike for smooth blending
PS = better for all painterly and realistic styles because blending things tends to be awful. Your art will tend to look more solid. Brushwork in PS is less accurate than in SAI but the number of painterly brushes is incredibly expansive. You can get a similar style in PS as you can in SAI but it will take you more time and you may need to use stuff like the gradient tool to make it look good. Also PS doesn't like smaller tablets very much. If you are fixated on getting a style like Rei's (or the person in the image) then SAI's probably the best option.

If you want to, say, alter your colours at the very end, hue shifts, colour balance etc, you can also bring it into PS. In fact, .psds are basically cross compatible so you can swap between PS and SAI while working.

[Anonymous No.4997094]

>>4997073
(cont) You'll find that there is no one program that is the best at everything. PS is a program you can, however, use for everything, but getting those beautiful hue changes can be a bit annoying.

[Anonymous No.4997096]

>>4997019
>paint tool sai 2
That program feels so much better, thank you. Very based

[Anonymous No.4997108]

>>4997019
I have sai 1.2.5, should I make the switch to 2 beta? What are noticeable differences?

[Anonymous No.4997127]

>>4997108
A fucktonne of new features. It's basically the same as sai 1 but better. Sai 2 beta is free if you have a legit sai 1 license or you can use the crack I posted.

[Anonymous No.4997132]

>>4997096
Going back to PS from sai will also become much easier if you want to later. Because by then you've transferred your trad skills across. SAI also makes that transition a lot easier.

[Anonymous No.4997172]

>>4993565
Guys, help me out here, I've been thinking about this shit a lot, some outside opinion might help me with some insight.

I've been using a CTL 671 One by wacom for 3 years now, and I've been doing ok with it (pic related) but I want to upgrade my shit, because I think it's about time.

Now, I've always wanted to get a display tablet, but I come from a place where shit is prohibitly expensive (brazil), so purchases like these are a big deal for me. A cintiq 22hd for example is the equivalent to 3.200USD here. I thought about getting a Huion Kamvas 19, which is still expensive as all fuck, but at least I can buy it (~950USD on black friday sales) but judging by these threads, it has a lot of issues (though I'm not sure if it's just 4chan being 4chan or it's actually a bad product).

Is getting a small (13") display even worth it? I feel like it problably won't be much of an upgrade for the amount of money I'd be paying for it.

[Anonymous No.4997178]

are alcohol towelettes good for cleaning my wacom stylus and non display tablet

[Anonymous No.4997186]

>>4997178
Just use a moist cloth with water from the tap.

[Anonymous No.4997195]

>>4997172
>but judging by these threads, it has a lot of issues
It's a /pol shill running the thread.
He got purged once for pissing off the mods and he was literally the sole person on the board talking shit about the huions AND roughly 50% of the posts in every thread is one person.

They don't really have any problems and compared to the POS you have right now the "bad chinese pen" is going to feel like butter and magic, and sweets.

>Huion 19
I recommend you getting any of the newer models.
>Xp-Pen Artist pro 15.6
>Kamvas 16 pro
>Kamvas 20 PLUS
The 13" models are just too small, 16" is the minimum that's worth getting. Also they still are selling the older models that so you should conduct your research and make sure you aren't getting an ancient model from 2015 with a battery powered pen.

[Anonymous No.4997226]

>>4997172
A smaller tablet is easy to get used to unless you strongly value sketching with your shoulder, which is especially nice for animation.

A used/refurbished 2nd gen ipad pro represents the best value for display tablets right now. Easily the best, smoothest drawing experience, and you won't get any of the quality control issues seen in chinese tablets or even newer wacoms.

As mentioned in the OP, this thread has at least one aggressive Chinese shill, who makes up around 75% of the posts in these threads with rampant samefagging and whining about a "schizo". You can safely discard anything he says,, because he's only interested in selling XP pens and Huions.

[Anonymous No.4997236]

>>4997172
A /pol/tard keeps sperging out every time someone mentions chink tablets. It makes these threads and is likely a janny and goes on schizo rants. Don't use these threads for advice period. Make your on /ic/ thread and ignore and hide these threads. The /pol/tard is an unironic appletranny and knows nothing about drawing and tries to turn these threads into its own echochamber. Make your own thread and hide and ignore these ones.

[Anonymous No.4997241]

>>4997172
>>4997226
>Chinese shill, who makes up around 75% of the posts in these threads with rampant samefagging and whining about a "schizo"
Case in point, Chang's already replied to you twice with basically the same shit.

Chinese tablets have issues as evident here: >>4993576
Not worth it at all.

[Anonymous No.4997244]

>>4997195
lmao zhang.
the thread you made shilling chinese crap are the ones that get purged quickly:

>>/ic/thread/S4979125

notice the rubbish bin. it got deleted and you cried like a bitch in the correct thread, which lead to more of your posts getting purged:

>>/ic/thread/S4979137#p4983007
>>/ic/thread/S4979137#p4983010
>>/ic/thread/S4979137#p4982955

chinese tablets are rubbish, as seen here: >>4993576

[Anonymous No.4997256]

>>4997241
>>4997236
>>4997226
>>4997195

Well, shit. This is why it's hard getting anything reliable outta /ic/.

Still, thanks. I'll refrain from discussing brands and look for reviews elsewhere, but I'm still kinda iffy on the size issue. Every video I watch online, people are using fuckhueg tablets, but I suppose they're way more affordable overseas. I'm afraid to get a 16" one and my hand covering half the damn screen, or the pictures being too small, since I'm used to a 22" monitor.

[Anonymous No.4997264]

>>4997256
Hand getting in the way is always a problem with display tablets, and one of the major perks of non-display. That's why Intuos pros are so good.

16" is a meme size, it's not big enough for desktop software. The reason 12.9 works better for iPad pros is because native apps like procreate and artstudio do a much better job utilizing the small screen space.

[Anonymous No.4997271]

>>4997256
It's just this thread that has some major fucking issues. I suggest unironically hitting up reddit (for example r/artistlounge) for any general feelings and then hit up professional places like cgsociety or 'industry' affiliated discords like cghub or ask on an /ic/ discord where people you can see draw like /LAS/ and see if people have the same models.

[Anonymous No.4997272]

>>4997195
Kamvas 20 (2019) owner here.
The nibs that come with the pw508(?) pens grind against the internals, so they arent a smooth experience to use at all. but if youre okay with shaving them down/smoothing them out on the part that goes internally its an ok tablet

[Anonymous No.4997281]

>>4997264
Got it. The more research I do, the more it looks like displays are really not for me, at least right now.
I'll look into upgrading to the Intuos pro series. Some of the prices are as steep as the ones I mentioned before, but I think they're, for the most part, tipical brazilian retailer retardation.

[Anonymous No.4997293]

>>4997281
See if you can pick up the 2013 version if it's available somewhere. Also keep in mind you only need a medium, don't bother with large.

[Anonymous No.4997300]

>>4997172
>>4997256

Just popping in here with the others to say that it's just one guy aggressively shilling against Chinese tablets for some unknown reason.
As the other guy said, buying a new tablet from either Huion/XP Pen will feel a lot better compared to what you are currently using. They aren't perfect, and I'm sure an equivalent Wacom would be better in the long run, but for the prices you'd have to pay for Wacom I'd say it's not worth it (talking about that Cintiq you mentioned)
Look up reviews from other sites and then make your decision, because you will get next to no useful information here thanks to shitposters.
As for 16 inch as a size, I used a 12,9 inch Ipad for the longest time and it was fine most of the time, basically the only reason I went bigger in the end is that I wanted more surface area to lean on. After using a 24 inch display tablet and going back and forth between that and the Ipad, I can say the size of the Ipad screen isn't the problem as the space is used effectively.

For disclosure, I use an XP Pen Artist 24 Pro. It's good, I have no real problems with it except that the cursor drifts off of the pen occasionally, but I just twist the pen around a bit and it returns to the correct position.

As you can see, anti-chinese man has already arrived to ruin the thread (again)
>>4997241

[Anonymous No.4997326]

>>4997300
Thanks, I'll keep it in mind.
I looked up some XP pen products and the price is a hell of a lot better than both the huion or wacom alternatives, though I don't hear about it as much. I'll look up some comparative reviews

[Anonymous No.4997363]

Does anyone else have issues with the 22hd and the colors not being correct? I can't seem to calibrate it or get the colors to match my other monitors at all.

[Anonymous No.4997425]

>>4997363

72% adobe rbg and 1000:1 contrast ratio is alright, its not great though. You may want to invest in a spyder calibrator to get the colours right. But even the spyder wont fix shitty black depth.

[Anonymous No.4997469]

I recall anon recommending me this to go with my new Cintiq. Good buy for only $60?

Or should I suck it up and stick to using a keyboard pushed off to my left and mouse to zoom in and out?

[Anonymous No.4997500]

>>4997469
those seem gimmicky, i just got a one-handed keyboard so that muscle memory never needs to be relearned

[Anonymous No.4997526]

>>4997469
I have this and it's definitely good but a mini keyboard also works...

[Anonymous No.4997532]

>>4997272
i'm recommending the people to specifically get the 2020 huions or the red dial Xp-Pens because they come with newer tighter pens.

Anyway what do you mean by grind? It wobbles sideways a bit or actually gets stuck on something? Are you sure you're pressing the nib all the way in correctly?

[Anonymous No.4997536]

>>4997469
Looks awkward as all fuck.
Take a look at this little thing >>4995367

[Anonymous No.4997541]

>>4997363
it's just bad, no fix for that.

[Anonymous No.4997543]

So I picked up a 9x12 intuos 3 to replace my old 4x6. Huge difference.

[Anonymous No.4997548]

>>4997532
>i'm recommending the people to specifically get the 2020 huions or the red dial Xp-Pens because they come with newer tighter pens.
>tighter pens
Except they're garbage, and it's been comprehensively proven here: >>4993576
Literally the latest and greatest "XP-Pen 24 Pro". Three different models, and it still can't manage straight lines, lmao.

[Anonymous No.4997555]

>>4997548
>cring bitch boy reviewer making a bisaed video after the users destroyed his shill credibility.

Sad.

[Anonymous No.4997557]

>>4997555
It's 4 different clips from 3 different reviews, idiot. They're also recording the tablet from the outside, which means far more than your screen recording, idiot.

[Anonymous No.4997560]

>>4997548
>ablloo bloo i got BTFO after shilling for wacom and my viewers left
>I'm going to sriticise a tablet for it's fucking STAND and WIRES take that successful corporation

[Anonymous No.4997563]

>>4997557
They are all webcomic shitters. Marc Brunet might be the only skilled artist to review the tablets on youtube and he had no issues with that.

I can only assume that the webshitters just can't draw a straight line.

[Anonymous No.4997564]

>>4997532
when working at higher pressures its like the plastic on the nib's side is grinding against the inside of the pen, causing it to want to jump around like its on an uneven surface, causing a feeling like sandpaper. its hard to describe easily but if youre used to smooth strokes youd notice it immediately

[Anonymous No.4997567]

>>4997563
>m-my youtube reviewer is the one that m-matters! m-my guy would never shill for his own pocket!

[Anonymous No.4997570]

>>4997564
Sorry no idea what are you talking about but that doesn't sound normal.

[Anonymous No.4997573]

>>4997570
happened with three different pens, so im certain it's a design flaw that only shows up a few months after use. But I'd tell anyone to avoid the pen.

found the right one in my history.
https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Free-Stylus-Graphics-Drawing-Monitor/dp/B07HK6HZZC

[Anonymous No.4997578]

MY FUCKING $20 HUION TABLET BROKE

WHAT THE FUCK DO I BUY NOW???

USING PENCIL AND PAPER FOR THE TIME BEING LIKE A CAVEMAN

[Anonymous No.4997581]

>>4997578
your fault for buying chinese

[Anonymous No.4997584]

>>4997567
Kek so this is the power of wacom shills.
I wouldn't trust whatver a /beg shitter has to say.
How the fuck does he even have any following? Oh wait, he doesn't.

[Anonymous No.4997586]

>>4997578
20$ Huion tablet?
Did you buy the fucking signature board?

[Anonymous No.4997589]

>>4997581
didn't want to spend more than 20 bucks as a 23yo boomer beg

should I buy a wacom now help anons

>>4997586
dropped the pen once and it broke

[Anonymous No.4997590]

>>4997567
Fucking retard. Looking forward to your next ban. These threads become actual cancer the instant you hit post.

[Anonymous No.4997592]

>>4997590
I think the guy is ban evading.

[Anonymous No.4997595]

HA HA
/op is getting banned now

Hey mod, next time purge the threads with this oppost.
You might also range ban him for blatant evasion.

[Anonymous No.4997596]

>>4997589
Just get an older wacom off eBay.
Older wacoms are durable as fuck and still used in the industry. An Intuos 3 will only cost you $50

[Anonymous No.4997600]

>>4997595
But seriously I cannot imagine how the fuck was he tolerated for so long in the first place.

[Anonymous No.4997607]

>>4997256
FUCKING KEK
That guy said I was a samefag.

[Anonymous No.4997608]

>>4997596
can I just buy a new tablet please I fucking hate dealing with people

[Anonymous No.4997611]

>>4997608
nigger you just said you didn't have 20$ to spare.

try buying a fucking job if you can't afford a new pen

[Anonymous No.4997612]

>>4997608
Does ebay really scare you that much? You just pay and it gets mailed to you. Only a 1% chance you'll have an issue.

Intuos 3s are like the thinkpads of the drawing tablet world. They're extremely popular to buy used for artists on a budget.

[Anonymous No.4997617]

>>4997612
>Intuos 3s are like the thinkpads of the drawing tablet world. They're extremely popular to buy used for artists on a budget.

they are also guaranteed to have previous owner's cum on it.

[Anonymous No.4997618]

>>4997589
>$20
paper and pencil, problem solved

[Anonymous No.4997623]

>>4997618
I've increased my budget to $100 because I'm fucking invested in drawing now

please just give me something I can order online that's not second hand my dudes

[Anonymous No.4997626]

>>4997618
I don't understand the pencil fags. What do you do with your pencil scribbles? Take them to your local pencil scribble gallery?

How do you share and get paid for your pencil shit?
>dude just go trad it's cheap
have you niggers even seen the prices for the quality paper, pencils, markers or paints? Buying photoshop is cheaper than going trad, hell, buying a Cinttiq Pro complete with the rest of the workstation is still cheaper too.

[Anonymous No.4997632]

>>4997623
One by Wacom

[Anonymous No.4997639]

>>4997623
Xp-Pen Deco 01v2 with a spare pen or a Deco Pro.

And don't drop your fucking pen again. I had mine fuck up too.
There might be a solution though.

I think what happens when you drop it isn't shit actually shit breaking but a tiny little potentiometer on the inside rattling out of position. Maybe you can tweak it back to the correct state.
I'm not sure though, I already gutted my dead pen for science.

[Anonymous No.4997647]

>>4997632
>One by Wacom
It's literally the worst of their offerings.
You could suggested an Intuos Pleb medium or something in the very least.

[Anonymous No.4997649]

>>4997639
>>4997647
Except the pen won't break like it does with Chinese tablets.
It also won't have squiggly lines like even the most expensive chinese tablets do: >>4993576
Wacom is always a better purchase than XP-Pen, hands down.

[Anonymous No.4997655]

>>4997649
That tired webm has been debunked, schizoshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHAcc5r6qb4
https://youtu.be/ANWe6qJlLh4
https://youtu.be/NMmKvPUsbFg

Doesnt happen in any of these. Squirm and cry.

[Anonymous No.4997656]

>>4997655
>o-only my paid shill reviews matter
Retard.

[Anonymous No.4997658]

>>4997639
thanks dude I'm gonna order this. holy shit it has 3x the drawing space of my old tablet. I opened up the pen too and fucked around with the circuit board but I couldn't get it to work

[Anonymous No.4997663]

>>4997649
>It also won't have squiggly lines
It will.
Wacom Non-Pro all include this problem.
Not because Wacom can't solve it, but because Wacom are punishing the cheapfags.

Can't comment on their durability, perhaps it will actually serve forever. But boy it's going to be a piece of shit. If your idea is based on your Intuos Pro you are wrong. One and Intuos Pleb use the BAMBOO pen, it's not the intuos tech it's a rebranded Bamboo, complete with that shitty pen, wobbly lines, wobbling nib and SPECTACULARLY BAD pressure sensitivity.

I unironically consider a chinese Deco 01 to be a much better drawing experience even with the wobble, the Bamboo are even worse.

[Anonymous No.4997664]

>chang gaslighting again

[Anonymous No.4997673]

>>4997664
>/pol schizo evading ban

[Anonymous No.4997680]

>>4996720
Which one would you recommend? I do like the idea of a scroll wheel for brush size/zoom. Currently use the touch wheel on my intuos for changing brush size.

[Anonymous No.4997684]

>>4997656
>He's forced to claim that Marc Brunet and Dave Greco are paid reviewshills

[Anonymous No.4997689]

>>4997684
>Dave Greco
>

The based Chink Shit Connoisseur vs the Virgin Wacom Shill

[Anonymous No.4997692]

>>4997689

[Anonymous No.4997699]

>>4997692
dave thread?

[Anonymous No.4997700]

>b-b-but my beg-shitter shill

[Anonymous No.4997730]

>>4997700
Did they draw these with the chink stuff though

[Anonymous No.4997754]

>>4997730
No. Greco uses a cintiq as his main station. Once you have a pro cintiq youre pretty much set unless you get unlucky, so theres no reason to ever get anything else. Marc uses a cintiq but also an xp pen 24 pro I think.

[Anonymous No.4997762]

>>4997754
Marc uses an old Cintiq because he's used to it but he claims to have used the Artist pro for two weeks before reviewing it.

Because only a bad tradesman would blame his tools. Unless it's something extremely bad like that >>4995787

[Anonymous No.4997764]

>>4997700
You're forgetting that although they recommend it, they ALWAYS note that of course it's not quite up to Wacom quality. It's still the industry standard for a fucking reason. That doesn't mean they're bad. In fact, the Chinese brands are much better than they were 5 years ago. But you fucking get what you fucking pay for.

It's impossible to have a reliable and honest conversation in these threads with all the shills.

If you are /beg/ or looking to buy a tablet, and you're a student and you're unsure, please listen: With Wacom, you WILL pay a premium, but you are getting the industry standard. Bar none. This is simply the fact of the matter. I don't know anyone in the industry who prefers others brands over Wacom.

With other brands, it will be hit or miss. Quality control can really vary (my personal experience with Huion has been good with non-display tabets [I have an Intuos pro Med 2017 and a Huion H1060P] but QC is VERY hit or miss for a lot of people). Because these brands are new, I highly recommend buying the newer products. The leaps in quality are not

If you are a beginner, you can absolutely buy a non-Wacom tablet and it will probably be fine. WHAT MATTERS IS THAT ONCE YOU BUY WHATEVER TABLET YOU CHOOSE, YOU FUCKING USE IT. USE IT EVERY DAMN DAY.

[Anonymous No.4997766]

>>4997730
>>4997754
But the point is that unlike the eyebrowless boomerfreak rutten, they arent career tech reviewers and dont rely whatsoever on chink (or any tablet company) sponsorship in either finance or brand. So their reviews are far more reliable, and the xp/huion stuff they review just works, its as simple as that. They fucking work. With displays a third of the price of wajews, and non displays a seventh the price of wajews.

[Anonymous No.4997779]

>>4997764
Look dude I'm not arguing against the Cintiq Pro or Intuos Pro. Those are legit the best, if you are fine with paying the unreasonable price for it it's a fine option.

However Intuos Pleb and One by Wacom are legit scam, they have the wacom branding but none of the wacom quality.

As for the Cintiq non-Pro they are questionable too. At least the pen is the wacom pro tech, that's a positive, and that where the positives end.
The screen is shit tier, the glass isn't laminated, and the price is still higher. Whichever is a better buy is up for a debate and what do you personally care about.

[Anonymous No.4997784]

Wacom one is the biggest scan in the whole market lmao

[Anonymous No.4997810]

>>4997779
absolutely agree. That's another important addendum for any /beg/

[Anonymous No.4997818]

>>4997766
You sure hate Aaron Rutten, don't you Zhang?

[Anonymous No.4997823]

>>4997818
Well the /pol faggot keeps spamming him so no wonder he gets the hate by association.

[Anonymous No.4997827]

>>4997823
You bring him up far more than he ever gets posted, chink.

[Anonymous No.4997832]

>>4997827
Hey fag, your posts just got purged, I know how often you're posting, I can see it right here >>4997256


You do understand that the other people aren't as dumb as you are?

[Anonymous No.4997836]

>>4997832
Perhaps you should check the archive of this thread. You'll find far more of your own posts have been deleted.

By all means though, keep trying to portray yourself as the voice of reason like the utter moron you are, Zhing. This is a slow thread, yet you pump it with samefagging because you're a desperate shill.

[Anonymous No.4997845]

>>4997836
My posts have never been deleted.

[Anonymous No.4997860]

>>4995787
wow is that a wacom graphire1? I’m sure that’s more than 13 years old.

[Anonymous No.4997862]

>>4997845
Lmao you're such an idiot.

>>/ic/thread/S4993565#p4997584
>>/ic/thread/S4993565#p4997595

Now you'll try to convince the 0 people in this thread that this wasn't you, even though posting style is exactly the same, right down to the incorrect single forward slashes like /beg and /op.

You are such a stupid chinese shill it's hilarious. All this because you fail miserably at defending poor quality XP pens.

[Anonymous No.4997873]

>>4997862
>the schizoid with a vocabulary of a 12 year old trying to tell others their writing style is identifiable

lmao

Maybe when you're older you'll learn more words besides idiot and moron

[Anonymous No.4997891]

>>4997680
Tartarus over the orb weaver, as even if you find the scroll wheel a little unwieldly, you lose one button for a scroll wheel that also has the scroll button. Opacity and density can be assigned to the scroll using modifier keys.

Compared to the touch ring on my EK remote, I found it to be easier and more accurate to get the brush size I want.

[Anonymous No.4997921]

>>4997578
get an H610 PRO v2 for 60 dollars and treat it properly

[Anonymous No.4997940]

>>4997921
Stop recommending the h610 and h1060 seriously.

H610 is an ancient enclosure, I had one, it has problems. H610 squeaks and flexes under pressure, the chinesium micro-USB is a certain disaster waiting to happen, I had one it kept disconnecting from a tiniest wiggle on a regular basis, and that required to restart the drawing program every time.

If you are going to recommend a Chinese tablet it ABSOLUTELY MUST have a micro usb. I had countless Chinese smartphones, gadgets and gimmicks die from a faulty micro-USB. All of my usb-C are still fine, but every single micro-usb has failed. The chinese micros are a fucking plague.

There are different 60$ tablets that can be recommended to use.
>Deco 01
>hs611
>hs610
>deco Pro
>HS 1161
All of these are mosern and use USB-C and as for Deco 01 i can vouch for a better enclosure quality without any flezing or squeaking.

H610 and h1060 need to go to bed forever, fuck those.

[Anonymous No.4997946]

>>4997940
Sorry to hear about your troubles. Mines worked fine so far, no problems at all. Granted I dont move it around at all, it just sits on my desk and I never unplug it so theres no real way for the connection to break. I only recommend the h610 pro v2 because Ive personally used one and know its reliable.

[Anonymous No.4997956]

>>4997946
>it just sits on my desk and I never unplug it so theres no real way for the connection to break.

The one I had would disconnect from a slightest touch on the cable. Which is why I absolutely fucking hate the micro usb.

Also the Deco 01 is just sturdier and feels cooler, the buttons on the h610 feel super cheap and mushy, the Deco 01 is virtually identical but minus all the problems. I think it's the clear winner in the 60$ category.

[Anonymous No.4998048]

>>4997784
If they knock the price down to $200, it could be a great entry wacom tablet.
At $400 you're better off saving more for an ipad.

[Anonymous No.4998053]

>>4998048
No it's a piece of shit that's not worth taking for free.

[Anonymous No.4998063]

>>4998048
even at $200 it would be worse than its competitors in the same price range

[Anonymous No.4998086]

>>4998048
>at 400 bucks you are better off saving for a device that will be obsolete after 3 years thanks to not receiving any updates and being locked out of app updates, which is made by a company that refuses servicing your device unless you only use their marked up services, for a device which basically only runs Procreate unless you suck subscription dick, which has an inferior amount of RAM and the only useful industry related software it can possibly run is the younger, retarded cut down brother of photoshop
I unironically laugh whenever I see posts begging for cracked versions of ipad .ipas and people asking if their thousand dollar iBricks can run stuff like zbrush and getting told to buy a real tablet. Better hope that you can find some good luck in securing a screen mirroring app that isn't subscription iDick and that also doesn't lag to shit unless you're a 2D hobbyist who only cares about procreate or you already own a normal tablet and are happy switching between computer and tablet or you're more than happy paying subscriptions for the rest of the ipad's short update lifecycle.

[Anonymous No.4998107]

>>4998086
ipads are updated for around 5 years

[Anonymous No.4998111]

>>4998086
Yeah, this. Portability is also something I dont get. It seems a very expensive way of replacing a sketchbook/pencil. If you're talking being able to move between studios or offices, a laptop + screenless tablet is perfect. You even get a much more natural feeling since a laptops small display will mirror the tablets active area in physical size, making your strokes more accurate.

[Anonymous No.4998135]

>>4998107
>ipads are updated for around 5 years
Installing new bells, whistles and bloat on old hardware only makes it chug slower even without the malicious intent which we all know Apple has.

My mom lost her phone recently, I found my old android phone, ran a factory reseet and gave it to her, what do you fucking think? I runs just like it did years ago, oh well it doesn't have the new fancy UI animations, but an Iphone would be fucking dead by now from all the updates,

[Anonymous No.4998136]

>>4998111
Portability and the ability to draw smoothly and make an easy switch from trad are benefits in the ipads favour. But on the other hand, how often are you going to be out and about frequently in public with your iPad? They're big targets for thieves and the like. If you lose your sketchbook, at the most you lose your sketchbook. You probably have the nicer sketches backed up digitally anyway (even if we don't all have scanners these days you can use your camera to keep copies of physical sketches). iPads also have good battery life which helps with the portability -- but not forever.

[Anonymous No.4998143]

>>4998136
>and make an easy switch from trad
purest marketing bullshit.
Drawing with a piece of hard plastic on smooth glass is nothing likelike traditional tool at all.
Unless you started sketching on glass or some crazy shit.

[Anonymous No.4998144]

>>4998135
I only own iOS devices but I also emulate android to run apps. I never get locked out of app updates on my emulated android and I've been emulating for literal years. All my iOS devices, on the other hand, are literally dead. The web browser, might not work. I can't visit certain websites. The dropbox integration is fucking dead. Discord crashes all time time because of a server update that I can't get. An android device might not look and feel epic or "expensive" but the thing is, it just works. And it doesn't need a jailbreak/root to get basic features.

[Anonymous No.4998146]

>>4998143
Exactly. And people keep telling each other that buying a smooth surface for wacoms etc is bad. But a smooth surface or screen protector for an iPad is unavoidable, unless you want to destroy the device. I might press very hard on a screenless tablet or type like a gorilla, but you've got to be careful with the smooth glass.

[Anonymous No.4998168]

>>4998144
Updates are something that Apple brainwashed their pet zombies to believe is necessary, it;s not.

A computer at my work runs windows XP 32bit for reasons, and it runs and it runs firefox and opens .webm on 4 chan.

Old androids have no problems whatsoever running newer software, browser, discord, you name it. Genshin impact runs on android 7, Hearthestone runs on android 5 and above.
The current latest is Android 12.

An app zombie is like
>but you only get one update
Thank fucking god, last thing I want is some GPU accelerated 3d screen scrolling effect to kill my performance and battery.

[Anonymous No.4998204]

>>4998168
My devices never get updated because they're jailbroken.
>An app zombie is like
>but you only get one update
That's NOT how apple works, mate, the app itself will do some fuckery like connect to servers because the devs are a bunch of cucks and then they change the server, issue an app update and because apple is a bunch of the biggest cucks they increase the ios required to install the update.

Bam, dead app because it makes a request and gets some response it doesn't expect. Happens all the fucking time to ios apps. If a person goes the ipad route, they'll just have to pray that whatever developer they're getting things from won't pull this shit and the app just works offline only or else it's programmed in such a way that it won't just die and crash the instant it sees something it doesn't expect.

Androidfags just never have to deal with the sort of absolute bullshit that Apple pushes. Maybe an ipadfag who buys an ipad to draw on will get lucky and at most the cloud features will suicide but the rest of it will work.

[Anonymous No.4998207]

>>4998168
And I know that's exactly what happens with ios devices both in my personal experience and because a relative of mine was begging me to "fix" an app so it could start working again.

I put the device through Fiddler (it's a MITM proxy) and tried to load the app. It crashes right after it receives a response it didn't expect from the server, as expected.

An apple device doesn't even have a 4chan app if you don't jailbreak. Or a torrent client. The ecosystem is just so cucked.

[Anonymous No.4998209]

>>4998204
Well this sort of shit is why I'm never touching any of the iShit ever again

[Anonymous No.4998221]

>>4998209
My next device will not be on iOS ever again. Also the jailbreaks are going to absolute shit because they're all tethered or semitethered these days. Yuck. The gravy train for apple having the best hacks and cracks and emulators are also over.

You know what's also yuck, a huge partition of the so-called storage on the ios device is actually reserved for the iOS shit itself to bloat with future updates. Because my device is jailbroken, I can use the gigs to store things like videos but on a non jailbroken device, nah. It's literally some kind a scam.

Going to try and find a rootable android device and try and find one with a headphone jack.

The only real benefit that iOS has? It's not emulateable. But who the hell even WANTS to emulate iOS anyway?

[Anonymous No.4998229]

>>4998221
You know what the androids have? SD CARDS!
Although to be honest the seem to be slower than the main storage.

As for the rooting you don't even need it unless you want to overclock it or do something weird. They simply allow you to install a third party store like th FOSS F-droid, or just download a random .apk and run it.
But if you root your device or install a custom ROM your banking apps and google pay will refuse to work like "a rooted device could be hacked or tampered so no banking for you"

> But who the hell even WANTS to emulate iOS anyway?
I bet my ass the developers would love to lol.

[Anonymous No.4998231]

>ios shit
Nobody cares, idiot chang.
The only reason people here get iPads is for the drawing experience, which is first class. Nobody gives two shits about anything else, and no, XP Pen's and Huion's drawing capabilities are not as good as an iPad Pro with apple pencil.

[Anonymous No.4998233]

>>4998229
I mean, SD cards might be slow, but you don't always need speed for things that you just want to store or might want to access eventually later.

iirc rooting's required for systemwide adblock on both iOS and Android. (and also fugging with games that want to protect things like their savefiles)
>But if you root your device or install a custom ROM your banking apps and google pay will refuse to work like "a rooted device could be hacked or tampered so no banking for you"
Yeah, that's the problem.
There was also an (iirc closed source) emulator called Corellium but it got taken down

[Anonymous No.4998243]

>>4998233
Not sure about the system adblocking.
I don't use any adware programs, there's a lot of actually free shit because google don't collect a fee from any store upload.

You can just install a browser with an ad block and run the newpipe for youtube or watch in browser.

[Anonymous No.4998245]

So, years ago I bought this tablet https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Create-Tablet-CTH670/dp/B005HGBF9W
I still have it, it seems to work fine and is in otherwise good condition I guess? I've never used it much over the years, just to doodle here and there, but I wanna know if this is a good tablet to use 'seriously' or if it's too outdated.

[Anonymous No.4998249]

>>4998243
Yeah that's also useful and another thing you don't often get with iOS. Or you get it on iOS and it's not very customisable at all. I also like that you can install apks etc without having to use Google Play's store. It's very flexible. Unlike fucking iOS.

>>4998245
Medium tablet right? You're good to go.

[Anonymous No.4998255]

>>4998245
(cont)
Also, just be careful of the little connector port on the side of the Wacom bamboo where your cable goes in. I had the small version of that tablet and it would frequently disconnect causing driver issues, because there was something wrong with the cable itself and I needed to get it replaced.

[Anonymous No.4998256]

>>4998245
It works and you might use it but the pressure sensitivity is on the shitty side.

If you ever feel hand cramping up from pressing too hard - then it's time for an upgrade.

[Anonymous No.4998258]

>>4998256
1024 is adequate.
>If you ever feel hand cramping up from pressing too hard
Just customise the pressure curve so you aren't pressing so dang hard and take breaks. You shouldn't even BE getting hand cramps from a medium sized tablet. The smalls are what cause them.

[Anonymous No.4998261]

>>4998249
>>4998255
Yeah, I think it's the medium tablet, it's pretty big. I'll watch out for the wire. Is it worth buying replacement nibs for it? It supposedly came with some but I can't find them anywhere and I'm not sure how long a nib is supposed to last.
>>4998256
>>4998258
Is there a proper technique for holding the pen?

[Anonymous No.4998265]

>>4998261
Just hold the pen however it feels comfortable.
>Is it worth buying replacement nibs for it? It supposedly came with some but I can't find them anywhere and I'm not sure how long a nib is supposed to last.
The bamboo is an old model. You should be able to buy a tonne of Chinese replacement nibs for it. I remember paying like 5 bucks or something for like a tonne of them. Failing that, people have memes like using lawn trimmer for the nibs.

[Anonymous No.4998267]

>>4998258
>1024 is adequate.
It's not about the number, it's how it feels.
Intuos pro have a springloaded tip that actually moves a little bit.

A bamboo however only measures the static compression stress, there os no spring it literally measures how much you compressed a solid plastic rod.

[Anonymous No.4998273]

>>4998267
I never even noticed the difference between my tablets, to be honest. But hmm, maybe that explains things a bit.

[Anonymous No.4998278]

>>4998265
A quick search shows me that there are some nibs for the model(CTH670) but it's only a pack of 5 or 10 though. I guess worth it?
https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Refill-Standard-Bamboo-INTUOS4/dp/B07HSVFW3D

[Anonymous No.4998282]

>>4998278
Just make sure your tablet number is in the supported models and you'll be gucci. Your bamboo was before wacom went all out greedy and each nib will last quite a long time.

[Anonymous No.4998284]

>>4998282
Alright, thanks m8

[Anonymous No.4998527]

Work will be shilling out a tablet for me for free -- it has to be ipad for some reason, but whatever. Been comparing the ipad pro 11 inch and ipad air 4 and it seems air 4 has better performance cause newer cpu, but the pro has 120 hz refresh rate. Anyone know if the 120hz display makes a huge difference? I'm not paying for the difference anyways, I just want the best tablet of the two. Do I just get the pro? The 12.9 inch looks huge as fuck so don't really think I want that.

[Anonymous No.4998540]

>>4998527
-- oh and the air has ipad os 14 and pro is on 13. idk if that has anything worthwhile that I'd be missing with the pro..

[Anonymous No.4998732]

>>4998527
If you're not the one paying, get the Ipad Pro.
The 120hz screen is a lot smoother, and it feels fantastic to draw on. It makes me wonder why Wacom or other competitors haven't copied Apple in this regard yet, because it's extremely responsive.

[Anonymous No.4998786]

>>4998732
Because Apple patents everything

[Anonymous No.4998955]

Need some help with pc specs, planning to get a Cintiq 16 and an accompanying PC, wondering if these specs would run CSP and PS smoothly: i3-10100F, GTX 1660 Super, 16GB RAM (planning to update to 32) and a NVME SSD.

The only other upgrade I can afford currently is changing the i3 to an i5 10400. I'm a Third World Shitter so these would already cost 6 grand here.

[Anonymous No.4998971]

>>4998955
Everything else is fine but definitely need the i5.
I would prioritize the i5 over the upgrade to 32GB ram.

[Anonymous No.4998988]

>>4998971
Doesn't CSP and PS use single core more than the multicore though? My conundrum is the i3 has 3.6Ghz base whereas the i5 has 2.9Ghz.

[Anonymous No.4998996]

>>4998955
>>4998988
PS and CSP barely uses the GPU at all. PS uses an insane amount of scratch disk. If I have a 200 MB PSD, PS uses MORE THAN than 20 GB of scratch disk space and will be continuously writing to the scratch disk.

Make sure your SSD is big or you have another backup disk. Warning: If your windows operating system is on the C drive and you install photoshop on the D drive, Photoshop will have a bunch of glitches if you try and set D to be used as the scratch disk drive. For example, in 2021 Photoshop I couldn't download the neural filters and had to use a very hacky workaround to make it work. Also in a cracked older version of photoshop 2020 or 2021 Photoshop would freeze forever if I set the scratch disk drive to a drive that wasn't where Windows was installed if After Effects was also installed on the computer.

Make sure you have plenty of space for your PSDs and your scratch disk!

PS and CSP barely use the GPU at all, unless you are using the 3D features of PS. But PS' 3D features are extremely slow anyway, even if you use an SSD. This means you can spend more on your CPU or disk drive than on your GPU.

However, if you decide you want to do 3D art, then you will need a good GPU. But if your GPU is too new, you may have to pay money for certain renderers (and the licenses are VERY expensive) compared to cracking them. So if you want 3D you should check this out.

>>4998988
I think PS is multicore and CSP is single core. But CSP already works very quickly on a bad computer.

[Anonymous No.4999001]

>>4998988
Yes they use single core speed is important but just with photoshop

Intel Core i3-8350K 4.0GHz Quad Core –> 105%
Intel Core i5-8400 2.8GHz / 4GHz Turbo, Six Core –> 106%

You see similar scores, however photoshop isn't the only thing running on your computer, you could have pornhub streaming in the background or the latest root kit from your pirated photoshop. It has been noted that anything above 4 cores, photoshop sees diminishing returns but those extra cores help when using more than just photoshop.

[Anonymous No.4999008]

>>4998996
Great information, many thanks for your insights and the time you took to write these down anon, I'll try to look around more for better deals. May all your wildest art dreams get fulfilled.

[Anonymous No.4999016]

>>4999001
If you use m0nkrus you won't get a rootkit. You just search m0nkrus on google to get to his site. I guess the thing about PS is that RAM and disk is probably the biggest bottleneck. I never really see Photoshop using my CPU or GPU a lot, but it's almost always using the disk. When it's saving, when you're using smart objects or undoing/redoing or working in 3D it's almost always using the disk! The majority of my lag is when I undo or redo big changes (like if I flip all the layers destructively)

[Anonymous No.4999020]

>>4999001
>>4999001
I bought a legit license for CSP and have CS6 Suite from work. I only listen to documentaries or podcasts on my phone while I work on art because I'm too old to spare energy on coom.

Maybe I'll consider the i5 if I feel like getting back to gaming.

[Anonymous No.4999116]

I have a cintiq 13HD, intuos large something or other and I’m posting this from my brand spanking new iPad Pro 12.9’’ that I bought to paint with and take notes next year at uni

And I am too depressed to use any of them

[Anonymous No.4999138]

>>4999116
>buy an ipad for taking notes on for UNI
A-anon, speaking from experience, I seriously hope you bought a keyboard for it and pray for your soul that your course coordinators have set up your course website in such a way that you can actually download your lecture notes.

My horrible, no good iPad Uni experiences from a few years back usually began with clusterfuck uni websites that the iPad can't download anything from due to weird embedded frames (which only laptops can download from), flimsy ass keyboards and the app I used to use, Notability, taking half an hour to open up the lecture slides. Why it took so long to open up these lecture slides from only the hardest subject I was taking I have no idea. And then the battery started committing sudoku...

[Anonymous No.4999157]

>>4999138
I’ll be getting the new keyboard for it next year - I mainly just wanted something that would start quickly, cause my old surface pro 3 is so slow now it takes minutes to setup.

If it wasn’t for my hands being fucked to shit after a minute of writing, I’d just hand write all my notes ;_;

The units I’ve done so far have all been pretty good about having slides available to download, but I have my gaming pc I can do stuff on that the iPad can’t

Just have to not /wrist before then kek

[Anonymous No.4999293]

Would a portable tablet like a Galaxy Tab S7+ replace my XP-Pen, or would it just be something for when I'm not at home and want to draw digitally? I'm not planning in buying one right now, but I'm just kind of curious how far along the technology is. I'm afraid also if I have a tablet out in public it's going to get nigged, and in my experience tablets tend to be stupidly fragile for whatever dumb reason even with a case

[Anonymous No.4999302]

>>4999293
The portable tablets are only good as an on the side thing for when you're traveling. They aren't really competitive when compared to a whole PC workstation.

[Anonymous No.4999308]

>>4999302
Can you feel the difference between 8000 levels of pressure sensitivity and 4000 levels? I'm not really sure what else I'm looking for though, I've only had my one tablet and only got it like half a year ago

[Anonymous No.4999313]

>>4999308
Again, it's not about the number. it's how the pressure sensor works, does it travel or is it stiff, does it wobble, is it even accurate ets.

The in reality quantifying the quality of a pressure sensor is really difficult.

[Anonymous No.4999340]

I posted this on /gd but didnt get many responses.
I have a family member talented at pencil drawing who I want to get them something for xmas as they are interested in getting into digital drawing. I have only basic knowledge about this, I see 'wacom' thrown a around a lot, but a lot of similar looking tablets for a fraction of the price.

I have a dell laptop that is a touch screen, can this work, or is there something 'better' about those drawing tablets?

Any info, thank you.

Why is xp-pen not recommended? I am looking to spend around ~200 so need the best i can for that, and definately need to have the screen not just a touch pad.

[Anonymous No.4999353]

>>4999293
The Galaxy Tab S7+ outperforms all chinese tablets in drawing experience, because the pen is using Wacom EMR.
It's especially nice because superDisplay lets you use it as a Desktop Display tablet, which works great.

[Anonymous No.4999354]

>>4999340

>Why is XP Pen not recommended?
Because the OP that made this thread is a shitposter that hates everything that isn't Wacom. XP Pen / Huion are both good alternatives if one doesn't want to pay for a Wacom.

>I have a dell laptop that is a touch screen, can this work, or is there something 'better' about those drawing tablets?

Pressure sensitivity and far better support for a stylus are the two major differences between drawing tablets and a regular touch screen. I wouldn't recommend getting someone a regular touchscreen laptop for drawing for this reason. Then additional bonuses for dedicated drawing tablets are better software support (for drawing), better surface texture (so you're not drawing on pure glass) among other things.

Might be hard to find a display tablet for 200 dollars or whatever your local currency is, but you definitely need to go with XP Pen / Huion then, or try and find something on the second hand market.

[Anonymous No.4999356]

>>4999340
budget displays under 500 kind of suck Im afraid. Get her an xp pen artist 15.6 pro

[Anonymous No.4999361]

>>4999340
>Why is xp-pen not recommended?
See >>4993576


>>4999354
>Because the OP that made this thread is a shitposter that hates everything that isn't Wacom. XP Pen / Huion are both good alternatives if one doesn't want to pay for a Wacom.
and yet, the two main recommendations in the OP are a Galaxy Tab and a used iPad. You are an idiot.

[Anonymous No.4999368]

>>4999361
If the guy asking the question can find either a galaxy tab or an Ipad for 200 dollars then fair enough. I know I wouldn't be able to find one over here unless they were in terrible condition so I didn't even consider it.

[Anonymous No.4999382]

>>4994447
The only advantage of a display tablet is if you get a larger size with a stand, and draw from the shoulder. It allows for more conventional canvas ergonomics

[Anonymous No.4999389]

>>4996466
No, there's Wacom Connect in a few days but it's just a media event. A new product is unlikely. The likeliest next event where they might have new hardware is CES 2021 in january. IMO their pens are still ahead. I tried huion and the calibration out of box was shit, misaligned everywhere, tilt sucked if you use it, and more wobble and pressure weirdness, which may be related to the fact they recommend using windows ink. Their wintab emulation didn't seem to work for me

[Anonymous No.4999397]

>>4999340
>or is there something 'better' about those drawing tablets?
The quintessential feature of a drawing tablet is a pen with pressure sensitivity. You can't draw for shit with your finger or one of those smartphone sticks, needs to be pressure sensitive.
>Why is xp-pen not recommended?
Rabid shill running the thread.
>around ~200
Well you don't even have any options. Wacoms start around 350$ for an intuos pro, all of their budget offerings are absolute garbage.

The Xp-Pen Deco Pro is a really good tablet btw.

[Anonymous No.4999400]

>>4999397
>The Xp-Pen Deco Pro is a really good tablet btw.
It's actually really shit, like all the other garbage by XP-Pen.

[Anonymous No.4999413]

>>4995917
It looks like the 2021 is just updating the pen to the PW517 (pentech 3.0), which the other tablets already use. Not sure if they've actually improved the quality of the digitizer the pen uses. Huion has slower software updates than XP-Pen iirc, and their support isn't as responsive

[Anonymous No.4999418]

i don't think there's going to be any meaningful updates until the chinks figure out the barrel roll and wacom have basically nothing left to improve other than going AMOLED with HDR.

[Anonymous No.4999428]

>>4999400
Squirm and cry.

[Anonymous No.4999445]

>>4999418
one major thing chinks can do is improve pen quality so the sensitivity isn't random depending on which pen you get.
people complaining about their xp-pen not picking up light pressure strokes is common.
if they can get that right with better displays then wacom is in for a rough time.

[Anonymous No.4999456]

>>4999445
They still need to improve wobble, tilt, and general pressure curve consistency

>>4999418
Wacom needs to add touch that isn't garbage. It's what really sets standalone tablets like the iPad Pro apart. Adobe Fresco has general windows support now but you can't use it because it has a touch based UI. It has a new brush engine but it's basically locked out by ergonomics

[Anonymous No.4999457]

>>4999445
Well i don't think they can afford to hand tune each pen for their 60$ tablets, but the user can do it, i tuned mine and refined the issue. i was really surprised how stiff the S7+ S pen feels by comparison.

The other solution would require them changing the design and getting really smart with the drivers.

[Anonymous No.4999459]

>>4999456
>Wacom needs to add touch that isn't garbage.
1 not wacom't job, it's about Microsoft
2 fuck off you disgusting zoomer holy shit.

[Anonymous No.4999466]

>>4998996
based and confirmed

[Anonymous No.4999479]

So I'm thinking about getting the cintiq 22 after much debate. I remember scuffing the fuck the out of my 12wx back in the day because I didn't get a screen protector.
Does the cintiq 22 require a screen protector? People have said it has a different finish on it.

[Anonymous No.4999480]

>>4999308
Nope. For me it is more important at which point does the pen sensor pick up a line, i have a soft touch. And that seems to depend more on the model (and driver i guess) than pressure sensitivity. But as is with other drawing tools, you adjust to the tool after using it for some time, there is no need to get neurotic about it.

[Anonymous No.4999488]

>>4999459
>1 not wacom't job, it's about Microsoft
Are you mentally retarded? Windows touch support already exists. The API to hook into windows already exists, all 2-in-1 laptops support it. The actual touch digitizer hardware needs to be made by Wacom, so does the palm detection algorithm specific to their hardware. It's not a Microsoft problem it's a wacom hardware and driver problem.

[Anonymous No.4999496]

>>4999488
lol touch, unless you're using a screen tablet you won't need touch, and if you're using a screen tablet you're probably a zoomer who doesnt care about ergonomics

[Anonymous No.4999519]

>>4999496
>unless you're using a screen tablet
Are you some sort of poorfag that can't afford one?

[Anonymous No.4999536]

>>4999519
i had one and sold it after 2 years of barely using it

[Anonymous No.4999537]

>>4993565
Should I buy the Wacom Intuos Pro M (PTH-660-R)? Before that there was only wacom CTL-470

[Anonymous No.4999557]

>>4999537
It's the best non-display tablet you can get, so sure.

[Anonymous No.4999562]

>>4999537
>>4999557
>Buying a non display for 350 dollars

Do you hate your money? Serious question.

[Anonymous No.4999564]

>>4999562
Not everyone is a braindead cheap chink like you.
The Intuos pro offers the best drawing experience with no pressure issues, no tilt issues, touch support which is handy for panning and rotation.

[Anonymous No.4999572]

>>4999564
Will it suck my dick and make me a coffee as well? To think that dude might actually throw that amount of money for a screenless tablet because of you is genuinely insidious.

[Anonymous No.4999573]

>>4999537
yes. i've had it for like a year and i still fucking adore it. so good tablet

[Anonymous No.4999583]

>>4994562
buckle uses a cintiq.

[Anonymous No.4999586]

>>4999564
>touch support which is handy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
you serious?

[Anonymous No.4999588]

>>4999586
cry more, retard.

[Anonymous No.4999591]

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[Anonymous No.4999607]

please buy a wacom...
please.....

[Anonymous No.4999612]

I've got a XP24, XpDeco02, and an iPad.
I'm a Wacom Vet, had 3 over 10 years and I won't be supporting them anymore, quality is garbage comparatively. Not interested in something used/refurb. iPad's batteries suck, looking to replace it but not have it clutter my 24.

>$450
>display 16" or less
>US of Capitalism
>Might be interested in a newer iPad if the battery lasts longer than 2 days.
>not interested in Shill feelings, I need shit that turns on and draws.
I can adjust to paralax, don't need tilt, I'm not a fucking child so the more it comes with in box the better. Not into peace mealing.

[Anonymous No.4999677]

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So is it only one guy crying about xp pens or is a big split wheter they are good or not?

I was looking at this one: https://www.amazon.com/XP-PEN-Artist12-Pro-Full-Laminated-Battery-Free/dp/B07VZF7ZC9/

Again, I dont know anything about these, other than wanting a screen she can draw on.

[Anonymous No.4999681]

>>4999677
Most of the posts in this thread are made by a shill for chinese tablets.
They're bad quality compared to industry standards, but if you're cheap and refuse to buy used, nothing can be done.

[Anonymous No.4999701]

>>4999677
>So is it only one guy crying about xp pens or is a big split wheter they are good or not?

One guy, he's also the OP.
You can always tell it's him by his extremely poor vocabulary.

some ass blasted /pol activist.

[Anonymous No.4999703]

>>4999677
When the mods purge the op's posts it usually looks like this.

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