/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.4992216]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

1.-screenshot the image and post that instead

2.-change camera capture settings to something smaller

3.-send to computer and resize in picresize.com

There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it.

Previous Thread >>4989592

[Anonymous No.4992258]

from ref

[Anonymous No.4992267]

>>4992258
CCCUCCUCUUNNYYNYNYYNY CUNNNNYYYYYY

[Anonymous No.4992272]

>>4992216
Did graysketch tyranny evolve?!?!?

[Anonymous No.4992274]

>>4992272
No, he's stil the gray cancer that eventually kill /asg/

[Anonymous No.4992298]

>>4992272
>>4992274
I don't think I've ever gone by the name gray-anything
>On that day, /beg/ received a grim reminder

[Anonymous No.4992306]

Whats the trick to doing interesting backgrounds?
Having the background interact with the character? Proper shadows?

[Anonymous No.4992310]

>>4992306
What you said is correct but I'd add that forms also help. Even if your character isn't all that placed in that physical space, you can give a dynamic shape to trees or clouds to frame it better

[Anonymous No.4992311]

>>4992306
py background attempts.

[Anonymous No.4992319]

[Anonymous No.4992320]

Will my progress be hindered/skills be the same if I start with digital? I've tried to learn with pencil and paper before, but never stuck with it.

[Anonymous No.4992325]

>>4992311
Havent done any yet, just studying at the moment. Gonna try tomorrow

[Anonymous No.4992327]

>>4992272
see for yourself >>4991484

[Anonymous No.4992333]

Can you /beg/ create better thumbnails, you are in the creative board. Be creative niggers.

[Anonymous No.4992350]

>>4992333
show me your thumbnails

[Anonymous No.4992353]

>>4992350
>show me your thumbnails

[Anonymous No.4992356]

>>4992353
what an absolute waste of a post

[Anonymous No.4992358]

>>4992320
>Will my progress be hindered/skills be the same if I start with digital?
Maybe it's just me, but drawing on a tablet doesn't feel at all like drawing traditionally. I don't think it'll hurt to draw traditionally, but I also think you're fine if you use a tablet from the get-go.

[Anonymous No.4992359]

>>4992353
based

[Anonymous No.4992381]

>>4992320
doubt so, maybe all you're losing is speed, guess a display tablet would feel similar to trad in the sense of knowing where to put the next stroke thanks to placing the pen directly to the screen, while on a regular tablet you have to play with the cursor and trust your hand. hell it sounds like a non-display tablet and even mouse might help when you have to force yourself to know where to put the next pixel without chicken-scratching like a madman with trad

[Anonymous No.4992393]

Ponsuke is based

[Anonymous No.4992415]

>>4992353
>he doesn't have the artist finger
NGMI

[Anonymous No.4992417]

>>4992415
From the tumbnail that finger looks like it was busy inside your twat.

[Anonymous No.4992426]

>>4992393
Oh yeah I need help

[Anonymous No.4992443]

I made this in 2 days. How shit is it? Am I NGMI?

[Anonymous No.4992453]

how. tf do you draw anime

[Anonymous No.4992483]

>>4992453
Big heads, my dude. In regular anime, the eyes are only at the middle (or perhaps even lower) of the head. Basically alien heads.

[Anonymous No.4992485]

>>4992415
you're gripping your pen too hard man. Tendonitis man.

[Anonymous No.4992520]

Recently purchased a book at the bookstore, so I basically have anatomy book on me and can keep a skeleton/body reference in sight at all times and used it while I drew these two over two separate mornings. I want to keep studying the book and learn more. I'm proud of these two drawings, honestly, some of my best work. Anatomy and linework wise I think, coloring is a bit wonky.

[Anonymous No.4992524]

>>4992520
IDK anon. 2.5/10

[Anonymous No.4992525]

>>4992524
That's fair, I can only get better from here. As long as I keep my positive attitude going haha.

[Anonymous No.4992526]

>>4992520
Certainly needs more loomis

[Anonymous No.4992528]

>>4992443
>>4992520
Are you retards blind? /beg/ isn’t an excuse to just be awful, you niggas need to go study before you post shit, you can clearly see the many many issues wrong with these. Take a picture of a real human or even an anime character and hold it up next to it, try again and come back in 1000 tries. Watch some god damn video courses or even YouTube videos for fucks same, kindest advice anyone could give you

[Anonymous No.4992531]

>>4992528
This.

[Anonymous No.4992536]

>>4992526
Loomis skeleton is what I use whenever I plan out my drawings, so sure, I could try and study it some more
>>4992528
I only draw using real humans though. I dislike the anime artstyle when drawing so to use anime as a reference isn't a good idea. I will try looking at my YouTube favorites to see if I have anything there saved from when I was wanting to learn construction and proportions.

[Anonymous No.4992537]

how do I clean up eraser residue off my paper without smearing the charcoal around

[Anonymous No.4992557]

>>4991428

[Anonymous No.4992568]

>>4992485
Wait. Are you telling me not everyone has this callous? Am I fucking up my tendons?!

[Anonymous No.4992570]

>>4992536
>so to use anime as a reference isn't a good idea.
Then use real humans retard cause it sure looks like you don’t at the moment

>will try looking at my YouTube favorites to see if I have anything there saved from when I was wanting to learn construction and proportions.
THERES LITERALLY THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF PAID PROFESSIONAL TUITION ALL OVER THIS BOARD. VIDEO COURSES, THOUSANDS OF BOOKS FROM INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS ALL THROUGHOUT THE PAST CENTURY AND YOU SAY
>I’ll mayb check my utube recs

good fucking lord humanity is ngmi. Give up

[Anonymous No.4992579]

>>4992570
That was my first sentence. I only draw with humans. Also, I never said I was only checking YouTube and only YT, of course I'm going to check the rest of the board I'm currently on, you dingbat. Calm down.

[Anonymous No.4992592]

>>4992520
Picasso would be proud of you

[Anonymous No.4992601]

>>4992520
>>4992524
Don't take it personal mate. Bitter medicine is better than sugar-coated poison. We all have to start somewhere.

[Anonymous No.4992602]

pretty sure the left head is fucked but not sure how to fix it. did i just get the shape completely wrong or is it a lighting thing?

[Anonymous No.4992609]

>>4992602
her arm looks broken. do you sketch your work out before coloring? i feel like you're jumping the gun a bit

[Anonymous No.4992612]

>>4992609
yeah i had a prelim sketch that i colored in. sorry but could you outline how the arm looks broken? i'm super smoothbrain and i don't see it

[Anonymous No.4992632]

[Anonymous No.4992640]

I might have gone overboard with those faces at the sky kek

[Anonymous No.4992644]

>>4992612
feels like her elbow isn't connected

[Anonymous No.4992651]

>>4992644
gotcha, not sure why i couldn't see it
god i need more practice

[Anonymous No.4992654]

>>4992651
im brand new /beg/ so im just nervous about giving bad advice

[Anonymous No.4992679]

>>4992520
>La aborto El Goblina

[Anonymous No.4992689]

>>4992640
OH my god it was better In black & white what have I done AAAAAA I'll fix it once I wake up

[Anonymous No.4992691]

[Anonymous No.4992731]

>>4992691
A good start, anon, good delineation of forms. Maybe try increasing the value range (whiter whites, mostly) in order to make elements of the image pop more.

[Anonymous No.4992777]

>>4992731
Thanks, good call. It seems like a common thing for me to not push my values far enough

[Anonymous No.4992823]

ArabeFag is here again so I posted this in previous thread it's was only head shot then i turned it to full body pose I don't think i we'll ever finish it but I enjoyed the process,dose anyone have something to say about my drawing.

[Anonymous No.4992824]

>>4992823
I dont even know what am I looking at?
fucking finish it /beg/

[Anonymous No.4992827]

>>4992824
No I'm bored &tired.

[Anonymous No.4992828]

>>4992827
YOU MUST FUCKING FINISH OR ILL GO TO YOUR COUNTRY AND SKEWER YOU THROUGH A STREET LAMP

[Anonymous No.4992840]

>>4992415
>people really get callus on their fingers
I always thought it was a joke

[Anonymous No.4992847]

>>4992828
What did you just say cunt? I'm the one who's going to boom your whole country and impregnate your white woman I well train your children to join my army damn America!!!!

[Anonymous No.4992849]

>>4992847
How do you know he's from America?

[Anonymous No.4992872]

>>4992849
I want to tell but its well not be a secret anymore anon_kun

[Anonymous No.4992874]

[Anonymous No.4992941]

I just wanna get good enough that I can cum to my own drawings, and then Ill be set for life

[Anonymous No.4992944]

>>4992941
Do tons of figure drawing and after getting an okish understanding of anatomy immediately jump to rendering.

[Anonymous No.4992951]

>>4992063 #
>>4992061 #
>>4992059 #
>>4992055 #
Thanks guys. Just got off shift, sorry for late reply. I'll dig out my old cheap Wacom tablet I bought in high school and have had buried in a desk draw throughout three houses.
Tired of being defeatist, I'll give it a go when I get out of camp(may look into ways of drawing at work on my laptop. 12 hour security shifts in the middle of the woods is uneventful).
Sorry for being a whiney bitch lol.

[Anonymous No.4992959]

any feedback?

[Anonymous No.4992973]

>>4992959
Why is he black

[Anonymous No.4992975]

>>4992951
Just buy a stetchbook and bring it out there

[Anonymous No.4992988]

>>4992959
What is the name of the pink airbrush effect?

[Anonymous No.4992989]

>>4992973
to have more contrast with her skin color, also because blacks are known for having big dicks, so it's a way to subtly communicate to the viewer that she's about to have a rough time

[Anonymous No.4992990]

>>4992988
it's just the standard airbrush in Krita

[Anonymous No.4992994]

>>4992989
>also because blacks are known for having big dicks
If argue with you Im gonna get banned for /pol/ posting, so Ill just use this reaction image instead and end it

[Anonymous No.4993004]

>>4992989
>this is your brain on porn

[Anonymous No.4993018]

>>4992989
> Subtly
Horses are known for having big cocks too.

[Anonymous No.4993114]

Reposting from the previous thread

[Anonymous No.4993135]

>>4993114
You’ve graduated from /beg/

[Anonymous No.4993144]

>>4993135
no....

[Anonymous No.4993172]

>>4992415
stop biting your fingernails.

[Anonymous No.4993175]

>>4992216
How long does it take to actually be able to physically draw lines and shit exactly where and how I intend to?

I drew all the time growing up but unfortunately I drew almost entirely with my fingers and wrist and would get cramps. It's been some (many) years since I stopped, and have been off and on trying to get back into over the past several years but it's fucking frustrating. I've drawn tons of boxes and lines and spheres and shit but training the muscle memory in my arm/shoulder/back is just taking forever.

[Anonymous No.4993190]

>>4993114
small craniums.

[Anonymous No.4993247]

i am worse than yesterday
got myself a hard round brush and paid more attention to the terminator

[Anonymous No.4993254]

>>4993247
you're rushing

[Anonymous No.4993257]

>>4993254
it took 59 minutes according to back to work :(

[Anonymous No.4993265]

>>4993247
Softer brush. Blend.

[Anonymous No.4993266]

>>4993247
look at the values on your shadow. squint your eyes and see how dark your terminator is, especially at the bottom of the egg, compared to the reference. also the form shadow is still softer than you've made it

[Anonymous No.4993271]

>>4993257
damn, start with 100% opacity and lay down the value without worrying about gradual value transition, you can check what i mean by using posterization on filter/editing tab, then and only then you filled the image with all main values you can start using low opacity brush and render it. this will help you cut the time

[Anonymous No.4993281]

Day 1 since having my eyes opened by anon on the fact that I suck. In an attempt to no longer draw human bodies in the shape of the sausage I will try to learn anatomy. Rate my proportions on the 8-head figure on the right? If that person existed would they be able to live in our 3d world in anything but constant agony?

[Anonymous No.4993291]

>>4993281
Lower the crotch a little, raise the limbs.
Then give her a skeleton, muscles, and fat.

[Anonymous No.4993301]

>>4993291
I drew the "skeleton" but purposefully omitted it in an effort to make the end result clearer for critique. Unless by skeleton you mean an actual drawing of a realistic skeleton as a study

[Anonymous No.4993305]

>>4992874
why the fuck are you posting my drawing from like 3 months ago

[Anonymous No.4993310]

>>4993265
>>4993266
>>4993271
thank you for the feedback.

[Anonymous No.4993320]

>>4993310
please look at this gif. i didn't really fix the shape of your egg and it's still messy but it should show some of the edge and value issues

[Anonymous No.4993324]

>>4993320
this is beautiful, thank you. can you please explain some of the decisions you made, how you used your brush, etcetera?

[Anonymous No.4993326]

>>4992941
just lower your standards!

[Anonymous No.4993329]

>>4992989
>>4992959
the skin folds are a little too strong

[Anonymous No.4993331]

>>4993320
shape of egg and shape of shadow adjusted, this is just observation in the drawing stage and the reason you shouldn't rush. if the shape of the egg is off but the form is accurate, it will look strange.

softer transitions on the shadow on the egg itself, largely done with hard round and some soft round on top.

bottom part of the shadow lightened and softened considerably, again hard round and soft round on top

random edges in the background softened out. these draw attention and ruin the edge structure of the overall image. an edge is always a point of interest and if they're randomly everywhere it will look messy

made the edge on the egg itself more consistent, you can see this at the top where you unintentionally left a weird smudgy soft edge right next to the shadow

some occlusion under the egg, although it's not so much occlusion in the ref as just a cast shadow and the form turning away, but you left it completely empty for some reason

also a specular highlight roughly where it should be. the light side of your egg was mostly a flat grey, don't forget to pay attention to highlights

[Anonymous No.4993332]

PSA: critiquing is an important job that should not be done hastily and on a whim because you want to feel like you don't suck when in fact you can't draw for shit

[Anonymous No.4993333]

>>4993331
meant for
>>4993324

[Anonymous No.4993335]

>>4993333
god bless

[Anonymous No.4993336]

>>4992973
why aren't (you) black?

[Anonymous No.4993343]

>>4993301
I mostly meant the underlying structure of the skeleton. It was somewhat in jest, but the muscle and fat bit wasn't. She looks like she's missing a lot of internals.
Doing a study of the actual skeleton is always good practice, as is the musculature.

[Anonymous No.4993349]

>>4993332
you get what you pay for.

[Anonymous No.4993350]

>>4993335
also re: the other guy telling you to block it in to do it quicker, blocking certainly saves time in the beginning stages but don't feel like an hour is a long time for this. The point of the study is to learn something, and it is a successful study when you have done this - the time is it takes is irrelevant, and there's no reason to rush if it might compromise your learning. Things like gestures are different because you're trying to force yourself to simplify the rhythms and not get caught up in the details, short timers aren't always beneficial

[Anonymous No.4993354]

>>4993349
Some people want to genuinely help beginners.

[Anonymous No.4993360]

>>4993350
Cont. The caveat here is don't get caught up in making it perfect and mindlessly noodling. If you can get something worthwhile out of a study in 2 hours, there's no point in spending another 8 turning it into a perfect copy of the reference. You're not trying to photocopy the image, you're trying to understand why specific aspects work the way they do. Always stay critical, and if your study has served its purpose, move on and do another one, or take some notes, or do an original piece and try to apply your observations

[Anonymous No.4993364]

I feel stuck, i don't know what to study. I already made drawing an enjoyable habit but i want to get better at it. I can draw pic related from imagination.

[Anonymous No.4993366]

>>4992989

[Anonymous No.4993367]

>>4993364
1-2h figure drawing everyday for the rest of your life now

[Anonymous No.4993377]

>>4993367
Is this the endgame of drawing?

[Anonymous No.4993381]

>>4993377
this is the gacha dailies of drawing, the farming, and if you don't do it you won't be able to take on the raidboss

[Anonymous No.4993387]

can i get some honest feedback lads

[Anonymous No.4993392]

>>4993387
eyes are too far apart

[Anonymous No.4993396]

>>4993387
draw the whole head so you can place your features properly. the eye on the left is out of position and the one on the right is also out of position and wonky. the lips don't follow the angle of the rest of the face. the nose isn't really a nose, your lines don't represent anything and the anatomy is lacking. more loomis

[Anonymous No.4993402]

>>4993396
>>4993392
thanks guys thats what i needed

[Doge No.4993406]

I don’t know if this perspective is correct. How much did I fuck up this time ppl?

[Anonymous No.4993409]

>>4993406
here is a (you) you were searching for

[Doge No.4993411]

>>4993409
Tf u mean bro .-.

[Anonymous No.4993414]

>>4993411
draw from life and not from imagination for now

[Anonymous No.4993415]

>>4993411
if you're not baiting, there's no perspective in this and you're still far too early to be asking for perspective critique. draw a lot more before posting

[Anonymous No.4993419]

>>4993406
this is a really bad tree, what I usually do when I want to learn how to draw something I never drawn before is watching others draw it. Go search on youtube on how to draw trees.

[Anonymous No.4993424]

i think this is an improvement

[Doge No.4993435]

>>4993415
I am not baiting and am very bad at perspective and just started trying to put somewhat good perspective into my drawings. Last time I drew a drawing with decent perspective was when I was 15, and I’m 19 now kinda lost interest in drawing for a few years so I’m really bad.

[Anonymous No.4993437]

>>4993424

[Doge No.4993438]

>>4993419
I know it’s so bad. But also thanks for the advice, will do.

[Anonymous No.4993442]

First attempt at fabrics and shading after doing the proko lessons. I need to learn how to blend properly, its pretty messy. Also need to be less scared of using white tones/contrast next time.
I learned how to colour without getting white pixelation around the edges in photoshop after watching a mangaka speedraw video, never thought I'd learn something from that.
Was fun to do this, should properly not do an old warhammer mode as a refl next time. It has odd proportions

[Anonymous No.4993445]

>>4993406
you don't need to worry about perspective now. you need to draw from reference pictures and train your eye and hand by just observing and copying from photos.

https://archive.org/details/C.BargueDrawingCourse/page/n23/mode/2up

this is a good place to start

[Anonymous No.4993447]

>>4993435
none of what you just said is relevant or interesting, don't use it to justify bad work

don't try to fix up your symbol drawn tree by injecting what you think is perspective into it, you're way way too early. just draw a lot more first. draw people, draw trees, draw the crap on your desk, draw everything, and when you have some mileage and your observation has improved, you will start to better understand how perspective fits into the picture and begin addressing fundamentals

[Anonymous No.4993450]

>>4993437
thanks lad, these little things is what i need to notice more

[Anonymous No.4993452]

>>4992689
what software are you using?

[Anonymous No.4993456]

>>4993442
Also I know its pretty bad but I was expecting it look way worse, I might see how it looks with colour and move on

[Anonymous No.4993457]

>>4993452
Clipstudio Paint, I was painting with the calligraphy pen

[Anonymous No.4993462]

>>4993442
just overlay the ref and see where you're going wrong. the values are off almost everywhere, it's not blending that's the issue. your observation needs much practice. you said this was an attempt at fabrics but this isn't fabric, it's a statuette - even so, you haven't actually constructed the fabric at all. the folds haven't been observed properly (look at the crease in the elbow and look at your random marks and ask yourself how they actually relate to the drapery.)

go again

[Anonymous No.4993479]

>>4993364
be careful about submitting shota to dad

[Anonymous No.4993485]

Oh god this sucks

[Anonymous No.4993488]

>>4992216
i did this, someone can say me what im done wrong? always when i try copy somenthing with the sight i feel the result looks too flat, an 2d object instead an 3d object
how can i improve my skills drawing? just see more the object and have more patience?

[Anonymous No.4993494]

>>4993488
if you are focusing on figure drawing learning anatomy would help a lot.

[Anonymous No.4993499]

>>4993406
Needs more rotation, the picture isn't panned back far enough and the paper isn't lined.

[Anonymous No.4993506]

>>4993494
im started with keys to drawing but i started pick up some other books, i dont know if stay with KTD more time or move to other/more advanced books
also is my line quality is good? i feel it still looks too wobbly

[Anonymous No.4993517]

>>4993462
Well i obviously didnt expect to get it right the first time. Its hard to convince my brain to use the right values. I think my eyes dont like contrast. even black and white photos feel weird to me, especially with harsh contrasts

[Anonymous No.4993520]

>>4993506
Most of the beginner books are good for the excises, I would recommend going to video course thread and finding some videos to help you learn. As for your drawing, it looks like a rough sketch so I can't really tell if you have good lines. Try messing with the stabilizer to get less of a wobbly lines.

[Anonymous No.4993524]

>>4993520
>try messing with the stabilizer to get less of a wobbly lines.
isnt that cheating?

[Anonymous No.4993525]

>>4993524
no

[Anonymous No.4993529]

>>4993524
No, but If you are worrying about "cheating" you should stick with traditional to get better at drawing or get a screen tablet to help you see the where you are drawing.

[Anonymous No.4993538]

>can't draw ever because uni
>small screenless wacom
>can't even make a line look good
I want to just stick to inks but I'll never get any money out of that

[Anonymous No.4993545]

>>4993538
That depends on the subject matter, but I seen on ebay people buying decent drawings for around 10 usd a pop.

[Anonymous No.4993548]

ignore the frame, I fucked up trying to quickly resize this on paint

[Anonymous No.4993550]

>>4993545
do you think something like this would sell?
The spiderman above is also me

[Anonymous No.4993561]

>>4993550
Here is an example of what the person I was talking about. But I think your second would sell if priced right.

[Anonymous No.4993567]

>>4993561
damn, I feel I could do that, thanks!
It's a start at least, being so busy since summer has discouraged me a lot

[Anonymous No.4993574]

>>4993567
you just need to get in the right mindset to draw and market yourself if you want to sell your drawing. Good luck on your journey.

[Anonymous No.4993575]

>>4993574
that is very good advice, thank you wise anon

[Anonymous No.4993579]

Phone poster here, any feedback?

[Anonymous No.4993581]

>>4993579
yes, learn to render an apple first

[Anonymous No.4993588]

>>4993579
your body proportion is off, her legs are little too long. The ear should be higher. Your line weight could be worked on

[Anonymous No.4993593]

>>4992216
what studies can u do to internalize perspective

[Anonymous No.4993594]

>>4993593
draw a box, unironically, then boxify everything you draw

[Anonymous No.4993601]

>>4993579
cute

[Doge No.4993609]

>>4993445
Will do and thanks for the link, this will help a lot.

[Anonymous No.4993610]

>>4993594
ok i will keep that in mind. but i am also wondering any observations studies i can do to exercise perspective muscles

[Anonymous No.4993619]

How does my pig look?

[Anonymous No.4993629]

>>4993517
It's not an attack, it's direction for things to pay attention to as you do more studies

This is addressed to everyone posting here, can you stop with the "well I know it's bad it's my first time"? You don't have to try to save face or justify your mistakes, check your ego at the door. You want your work critiqued so don't hide behind these statements for no reason. Put it out there, state what you're working on and any questions you might have, and if you get feedback from someone take it for what it is with a pinch of critical thinking salt

[Anonymous No.4993631]

>>4993619
soul

[Anonymous No.4993635]

>>4992415
I don't hold my pen like that

[Anonymous No.4993636]

>>4993588
Thanks for the tips

[Anonymous No.4993651]

>>4993135
Thanks, but I feel like /draw/ is for more serious stuff and I'm still studying.
>>4993190
Yep, now I can't unsee it, thanks. I'll try to work on that too.

Here's my first portrait on toned paper. Unfortunately the quality of the paper is kinda shit, gonna find another sketchbook, but the highlights are nice to work with and the shading takes less time.

[Anonymous No.4993652]

>>4993651
tiny ear but really nice

[Anonymous No.4993659]

>>4993651
brother take your index and your thumb and measure the distance between your eye and your ear

[Anonymous No.4993714]

>>4993488
wrist too thick, palm begins too low, the fingers are nicely done imo, thumb too big... you are also forgetting that what gives a drawing a sense of depth is contours and shadow. This is what makes it pop

[Anonymous No.4993717]

>drawing from ref
>think I'm doing an ok job
>overlay original pic in the end to see how much I got wrong
>I am a disgrace that can only bring monstrosities into this world
>worst thing is I can't tell most of the time and think my drawings are ok
why live

[Anonymous No.4993722]

argh

[Anonymous No.4993730]

>>4993722
THE FUCKING PHOTOSHOP FILE CORRUPTED THE SECOND I EXPORTED AND CLOSED IT

[Anonymous No.4993741]

>>4993717
just keep going lol

if you learn where the consistent issues are with the overlaying, you can start to pay more attention to those areas and to how accurate your drawing is. over time you will learn to see it yourself

[Anonymous No.4993743]

>>4993730
draw it again

[Anonymous No.4993747]

>>4993741
That's the idea, but in the end the mistakes I make are so hard to correct for... for example I draw things a little too thin or too tall frequently. How do I correct for that?! Draw midgets and hope they come out normal?? fffffffffffffffffffuck

[Anonymous No.4993757]

>>4993717
Your gestures are pretty close. Maybe you subconsciously want to make your gestures conservative when they're supposed to be intentionally exaggerated?
In my opinion, gestures should be lively, and that often means the most interesting and worthwhile poses are ones like Gigachad, or regular "Ouch!" Chad.
Don't suppress your inner desire to draw Gigachad poses.

[Anonymous No.4993760]

>>4993743
I'd rather draw something else

[Anonymous No.4993763]

>>4993747
maybe put some extra time into studying proportions, observe them across a wide range of references, make sure your anatomy is being constructed correctly (i.e. if it's too thin, are you sure the bone structure and the musculature is being accounted for?)

[Anonymous No.4993770]

>>4993747
Take the shortstack pill

[Anonymous No.4993787]

>>4993763
Hmm, I'm not even thinking about bones, only shapes as I see them. I've studied on proportions and muscles today and I'm beat, I'll tackle bones tomorrow cause my brain is melting... thank you for your patronage
>>4993757
>Your gestures are pretty close
this is the first thing someone's told me here that doesn't mean I suck. I feel warm anon, thank you. I will embrace my inner gigaChad and exaggerate things more, sounds fun anyway

[Anonymous No.4993810]

>>4993787
not that anon but seriously dude, the gesture is really close, and thats what really matter. If the anatomy was better but the pose stiff, it would look arguably worse

Keep going, youre doing good

[Anonymous No.4993823]

>>4993714
>contours
line weight?

[Anonymous No.4993834]

>>4993810
Thank you, your words give me strength anon. Sometimes it's hard, but practice is the answer. My goal is to one day gesture correctly with 0 ref

[Anonymous No.4993840]

>>4993787
bones are important when it comes to figure drawing.

aside from dictating proportion (along with muscles and fat, but vertically it's really all about the skeleton) there are several areas of the body where they are close to the surface of the skin and will affect how that area looks under different conditions; there are also bones that are commonly used as landmarks when drawing and might help you with measuring your proportions in other drawings. it's not essential to memorize the whole skeleton right now but start to factor these things in as you study more

[Anonymous No.4993842]

I tried finding the vp of these boxes but it would appear they lie above the horizon (eye level). I thought horizontal lines converged to the horizon? Is my table just that uneven?

[Anonymous No.4993852]

>>4993840
I see, I think I know what you mean (eg sometimes l use the collarbone as an anchor point cause it's so convenient). I'm gettin fired up, screw breaks I'm gonna learn bones now here we gooo

[Anonymous No.4993855]

>>4993842
it would seem to me that the horizon is just a little higher than you've drawn it.

[Anonymous No.4993860]

>>4993842
looks to me like your drawn lines aren't exact with the edges you're marking, and that you've put your horizon line below where it should be.

[Anonymous No.4993862]

>>4993852
yes, exactly like that. another common landmark on the front of the body are the asis points - the bumps on the front of the pelvis that you can feel at hip level. if you can locate these, then you can start to figure out how the other anatomy around them is connecting, etc.

there's lots to learn, don't burn yourself out too hard. rest is good too, but generally yes keep going

[Anonymous No.4993867]

hello /beg/, thanks in advance for feedback

[Anonymous No.4993879]

>>4993867
LIKE A CHAMP

[Anonymous No.4993880]

>>4993842
>>4993860
ah I see, thanks

[Anonymous No.4994108]

>Bargue Drawing Course
Am I doing alright, /beg/?

[Anonymous No.4994115]

>>4994108
a new barguefag was born, let's watch closely how far this rare specimen will go

[Anonymous No.4994169]

Yikes

[Anonymous No.4994175]

>>4994169
Eyes are such a pain, I can't seem to get anything right? Failure after failure, is the bone and head structure decent? That's what I've been studying yet the features are too hard for me as of now.

[Anonymous No.4994178]

>>4994169
start with the eyes and work around from there it doesn't have to BE perfect just appealing to the viewer

[Anonymous No.4994183]

>>4994169
Reference
>>4994178
Thanks, I was so worried about getting the structure right, nose and cheekbones, that I forgot to do the ball thing with eyes and just guessed

[Anonymous No.4994185]

>>4994183
>>4994169
Fuck, more mistakes, angle is off
I have to either do this one again or move on
I've failed again

[Anonymous No.4994189]

>>4994175
yes your bone structure is decent and the features are the problem right now. figure out how the eye sits in its socket and then look at how eyes work in perspective. understanding the form of the eyeball and eyelid will help you a lot with this. your eyebrows are also not working in line with the sockets properly. the nose is meh, it's not structured at all and the protrusion doesn't make sense. the mouth is warped beyond belief, the philtrum is completely uncentred and skewed towards us, the shape of the lips is odd which makes the smile feel unnatural

the features, what we actually see, are what gives away the structure of the skull. if you wonk the features, it will ruin the structure, no matter how perfect it is. keep going, you know what you need to study

[Anonymous No.4994192]

>>4994189
also now that you've posted the ref, yes the angle is off and the chin is way off, the jaw should be more rounded, the neck should be thinner, the other cheekbone isn't being constructed properly

[Anonymous No.4994193]

>>4994108
>Bargue
>>4994115
Who the fuck is this nigga? What's different from him compared to loomis?

[Anonymous No.4994196]

>>4994193
go read a book

[Anonymous No.4994212]

>>4994193
Only chads are able to complete his book

[Anonymous No.4994216]

>>4994212
it can't be done.

[Anonymous No.4994260]

Where is the shoulder in this photo?

[Anonymous No.4994263]

>>4994260
I cant find it through the shirt

[Anonymous No.4994269]

>>4994260

[Anonymous No.4994277]

>>4994269
I was kinda hoping for a red circle where the shoulder starts...

[Anonymous No.4994279]

>>4994277
go make this pose in the mirror and try to figure it out. it will be more helpful for you.

[Anonymous No.4994293]

all my homies hate books....

[Anonymous No.4994299]

Dont know really where to start? I do I pick an artist and break down their art and then work from there? or what?

[Anonymous No.4994310]

[Anonymous No.4994311]

[Anonymous No.4994312]

[Anonymous No.4994324]

>>4994312
based

[Anonymous No.4994326]

>>4994277
t. /beg/

[Anonymous No.4994330]

>>4994326
Fucking thank you. I dont have a full body mirror in my house and if I tried to squat on the sink I'd probably snap my neck

[Anonymous No.4994332]

>>4994326
The shoulder isn't that far back

[Anonymous No.4994350]

>>4994299
read keys to drawing and/or bargue

[Anonymous No.4994357]

>>4994192
>>4994189
Thanks for the feedback, almost done with a 2.0

[Anonymous No.4994359]

god i hate art references-- so unnatural looking, so fucking boring. why are they like this

[Fellow /beg/ No.4994360]

WIP. Is the pose stiff? Can you see what's going on here?

[Anonymous No.4994362]

>>4993364
do her vaj fart

[Anonymous No.4994368]

>>4994332
Give a redline pls,

[Anonymous No.4994369]

>>4994359
Ease of comprehension.

[Anonymous No.4994372]

>>4994360
if the demon is the aggressor I suggest you move the elf's pelvis more back so it gives off a more seductive look

[Anonymous No.4994373]

>>4994369
rhetorical.
ik they're useful for study, but i wish there was something out there i could use to inform art. instead i have to screenshot movies and shit on my own time

[Anonymous No.4994374]

These took way too long. Each on one layer only. Gody line quality sucks

>>4994360
Pose looks fine to me, it's just fairly visually noisy. Adding some more varied line weight or doing a second sketch on a layer on top would go a long way. Putting in flat colors and/or shadows will also help with its readability.

>>4993485
You chose an unbalanced pose for a reference. Also, give the drawing some more time and thought before posting, it's a decent gestureral first step, but now you can go through the figure again and really look at what the body actually looks like.

>>4993619
Good. Now draw 10 more. After each one try to find one (or more) thing to improve on.

>>4993550
Not bad, check your anatomy for the eyes. Also, vary the line weight some more, and try not to rely too much on fancy brushes, the spider man pic looks very digital, and not in a good way

[Anonymous No.4994388]

egg three
tried to apply all the advice, felt weird to use soft brush this much

[Anonymous No.4994396]

4 months and I just don't improve, I get worse, fuck, I like drawing but I just don't improve, I don't feel the talent
>>4994189
>>4994192
Another one, maybe I got the eyes but I fucked everything else, so I gave up because it's already fucked
FUCK
FUCK FUCK

[Anonymous No.4994397]

IM PATHETIC I DONT IMPROVE AT ALL
4 MONTHS AND I JUST GET WORSE
I GRIND MY FUNDIES EVERY DAY, I DID 100 CYLINDERS TODAY, I KEEP DRAWING, I DO MY FUNDIES I WATCH COURSES BU I JUST DONT IMPROVE

[Anonymous No.4994398]

>>4994396
I knew the mouth was fucked, I erased and erased, changed the angle over and over, height, position etc yet I fucked it all up, I can't take it anymore.

[Anonymous No.4994401]

>>4994360
>that armor
>those face markings
>elf ears
How fucking dare you depict the Fierce Deity Chad like this

[Anonymous No.4994403]

if i ignore the mouth then i have to deal with the nose and chin, ignore those and her head is tilted, i noticed that but i just cant depict it
>>4994183
Am I proof talent is real by having none?

[Anonymous No.4994404]

>>4994403
Take your medications.

[Anonymous No.4994405]

I just don’t want everything I draw to look like an angsty pre teen posting on deviant art. God damn.

[Anonymous No.4994406]

>>4994404
help me
I've been drawing for 4 months now

[Anonymous No.4994407]

>>4994406
https://dad.gallery/users/957/
Be glad you're not him, and keep drawing

[Anonymous No.4994411]

>>4994405
Stop shading (for a while) and stop using a soft graphite.
Get a 3mm or 5mm mechanical pencil and focus on accuracy.
Pentels are extremely reliable and art focused.

[Anonymous No.4994428]

>>4994407
>>4994169
>>4994396
This is horrible work, someone that's been drawing for 3 or 4 months should be able to do better

[Anonymous No.4994429]

>>4994428
Depends how much he has been grinding heads

[Anonymous No.4994432]

>>4994398
Don't try to fix it, move on and do more. It doesn't matter if the next 10 are shit, and it especially doesn't matter if you make a good one, then proceed to make another 10 shit ones. 4 months is not enough to expect any sort of major progress.

[Fellow /beg/ No.4994433]

>>4994372
Will do.
>>4994374
I seem that I have to watch FZD video on line weight.
>>4994401
Not enough rule34 of him.

[Anonymous No.4994441]

Is gitting gud at line art required? Can I make good anime illustrations without line art?

[Anonymous No.4994444]

>>4994407
>time spent 30 mins
>a stick figure
is he forced to draw with his foot? is it just a meme?
idgi

[Anonymous No.4994516]

>>4994411
I will try that. I think with trad it’s much harder to not just turn the lines into shading. A bad habit I need to break. Here’s one on digital I was working on from reference this time.

[Anonymous No.4994518]

>>4994397
Pyw /beg/toid

[Anonymous No.4994521]

U ever go to draw something from https://quickposes.com/ and then the ref reminds you of your ex and you cry and u stop drawing for the day?

[Anonymous No.4994522]

>>4994521
Never had a gf.
Nice pic tho, gonna coom to this next

[Anonymous No.4994524]

>>4994522
Yeah, everyone used to coom to my ex too.

[Anonymous No.4994525]

How do I draw gesture for fucks sake and not these unfinished out-of-proportion stick figure abominations

[Anonymous No.4994528]

>>4994525
feel the form. use more C's.

[Anonymous No.4994531]

>>4994525

[Anonymous No.4994532]

>>4994525
>>4994531

[Anonymous No.4994534]

>>4994525
>>4994531
>>4994532
/beg/ really is hell

[Anonymous No.4994541]

>>4994525
Focus more on your subject rather than the drawing, also start drawing small gestures rather than large ones (About 2x2 inches), you have much more control and it makes you focus on how many lines to put down, (depending if you're timing yourself) you want to use as few li es as possible, its also beneficial to work on linework/lineweight to emphasize your gestures. Hope this helps anon

[Anonymous No.4994545]

>>4994541
Most of these were 1-2 minute poses. I feel like I just run out of time before I can even get the shape of the body in my head. As for drawing with as few lines as possible I understand, I just end up drawing a line, it comes out wrong, then I redraw it so it ends up looking messy as hell.

[Anonymous No.4994547]

>>4993331
Are you masking the egg as you render, to keep the edge of the egg defined?

[Anonymous No.4994558]

>>4993717
This looked like a fun pose so I thought I would quickly do something quick before I sleep. I know my lines are shit I've been told before. That is a work in progress.

[Anonymous No.4994572]

It's proportions are really fucked up now that I look at it

[Anonymous No.4994573]

>>4994572
Yes they’re, what are you gonna do about it?

[Anonymous No.4994574]

What’s up, I’ve been an artist for some years but I still struggle, this is something I’ve been working on, as you can see it’s still very in progress, I’m thinking about starting to do NSFW art since my “career” just doesn’t take off as a SFW artist. What you think? Do I have a future?

[Anonymous No.4994580]

>>4994545
It helps to focus on the hands and feet, since that's usually where the gestures force comes from. It's also where the gestures shape takes form (imagine a line running down the subject from their upper torso to the bottoms of their feet, if it looks like a C-pose then keep a mental note of that), like I said before, doing thumbnail-sized gestures will help you not lose sight of the finished result, in your case if you do small gestures under that timeframe it makes the process much more easier. Dont worry if you made a mistake, acknowledge it and move on. If you repeat the same line over and over to correct it, people looking at the gesture will be focused more on the line you tried to fix than the gesture itself. One more thing, don't worry if you exaggerate the pose or if the proportions are off, gesture drawings are meant to focus on the gesture, they aren't the finished product (here's kind of that you should be aiming for, again use as little lines as possible, dont focus on the details like I did, it only slows you down).

[Anonymous No.4994592]

>>4994573
That's why he posted here because he needed criticisms, if you can't provide one just don't respond stupid fuck.
>Yes they're
You can't even speak english properly, jesus kek.
>>4994572
Finish the piece at least bro, give more time on it then come back.

[Anonymous No.4994595]

>>4994592
He’s a turbo /beg/ moron, no amount of critic is gonna save his ass till he grounded hundreds of hours already

[Anonymous No.4994600]

>>4994525
Micheal hampton video drawing course and book will help you since it has a methodical take of doing gesture. I assume you haven't done any other methods of doing gesture besides that proko video in the pastebin?

[Anonymous No.4994602]

>>4994396
>>4994397
>>4994398
>>4994403
>>4994406
Yes you do, m'schizo. But just showing up was already half a battle.

[Anonymous No.4994608]

>>4994595
I've drawn for only 10 or so hours

[Anonymous No.4994685]

>>4994580
Thanks anon, I'll keep grinding

[Anonymous No.4994693]

>>4992216
N-not beg

[Fellow /beg/ No.4994714]

>>4994360
Took me 8 hours for this. Am I slow?
Gonna add fake line weight tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4994716]

>>4994714
COOO000000000OOOOOMMMMMMMMmmmMMMMNNNN

[Anonymous No.4994759]

Which fundamental are you guy focusing right now?

[Anonymous No.4994793]

>>4994759
>doing figure studies
>slap an anime head on the model
Do coomers really?

[Anonymous No.4994796]

Gura!

[Anonymous No.4994806]

How can you draw children without getting called a pedo?

[Anonymous No.4994810]

>>4994806
Draw them with clothes on this time.

[Anonymous No.4994828]

>>4994806
Like this

[Anonymous No.4994933]

>>4994602
What do you mean?
>>4994518
it's already there

[Anonymous No.4995024]

>>4994714
I'll call this "finished" and move on.

[Anonymous No.4995124]

I have legit forgot how loomis works or something. What the fuck

[Anonymous No.4995162]

>>4995124
Im giving up on this, god damnit. I think im hitting one of those low points in progress or whatever the hell its called

[Anonymous No.4995185]

This is probably wrong on many levels but I don't know exactly what, care to give me some pointers?

[Anonymous No.4995189]

>>4995162
>>4995124
Uh this? Just did this page last night, were you talking about this?

[Anonymous No.4995190]

>>4994828
so wholesome and soulful

[Anonymous No.4995192]

This is probably wrong on many levels but I don't know exactly what, care to give me some pointers?

(Forgot to rezise it)

[Anonymous No.4995196]

>>4995162
>>4995124
You might just be having a bad day. Try again tomorrow

[Anonymous No.4995207]

am I the only on that would smash loomis's daughter?

[Anonymous No.4995223]

>>4995189
Yeah that. For making sure heads and faces look like heads and faces and not burn victims and trauma patients.
>>4995196
Man but I wanna draw.
I'll just take a break for a bit

[Anonymous No.4995224]

I DID IT AGAIN AND I FAILED

[Anonymous No.4995231]

>>4995224
I keep failing and failing, 4 months and im even worse

[Anonymous No.4995233]

>>4995231
ive always been shit
im trash
how can literally everyone be better than me> no one deserves it

[Anonymous No.4995236]

>>4995233
A divine message? could it be telling me to quit?

[Anonymous No.4995296]

>>4995233
Anon, u r better than me, and unlike in music, it's really hard to cover up fundies with style and charisma. I'm just bad. If I could play u a 4 chord folk punk song you'd be impressed and wouldn't care that my barre chords are a little dull sounding, you'd be entertained by my singing and posture. But with drawing, the artist is so much more easily removed from the art itself. It comes closer to objectivity. And if that is the case then it's hard to separate your work from comparison to others. And I'd just like to say you are better than me. Though, I'd just like to wonder why does your brain power rank everything? Why does your brain put you on the lowest rank?

[Anonymous No.4995298]

I tried digital drawing for the first time. It looks like shit. I'm pretty good at physical drawing so I thought this was gonna be easier.

how long will it take for me to be able to draw sexy anime girls well?

[Anonymous No.4995303]

>>4995298
What tablet? if its not wacom don't even bother

[Anonymous No.4995310]

>>4995303
huion

I have a wacom one but its tiny

[Anonymous No.4995316]

>>4995310
yeah you are fuck'd

[Anonymous No.4995335]

>>4994796
annd done!

ONE MORE TO GO!

[Anonymous No.4995362]

>>4995124
at least you're aware of the problem, move on and draw actual 3d shapes next time

[Anonymous No.4995371]

>>4995335
cute

[Anonymous No.4995372]

>>4995162
>>4995124
what's up with begs always drawing sausages for fingers

[Anonymous No.4995373]

>>4995372
Symbol drawing ,its hard to break

[Anonymous No.4995409]

new

>>4995408
>>4995408

>>4995408

[Anonymous No.4995458]

>>4995372
No one wants to draw those 18 separate boxes for fingers, its like a necessary evil to half assing it in the future

[Anonymous No.4995465]

>>4995192
You symbol drew everything

[Anonymous No.4995506]

idk how to fix skin tones when I was starting out it was looking nice but the more I did the worst it got

[Anonymous No.4997385]

>>4992216
Is this still still /beg/ level?

[Anonymous No.4997770]

>>4995506
>cmyk

[Anonymous No.4998122]

>>4995506
Your image isn't in RGB anon

[Anonymous No.4998124]

>>4997385
Yes. Poses are bad, there's no weight to them. Anatomy is nonexistent.