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What keeps you going /ic/?

>> No.4981089

>>4981087
I enjoy drawing :)

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>>4981087
My ever growing hate and anger

>> No.4981097
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4981097

art is the only thing that brings me feels and sense of achievement

and I naively believe that if I push myself at it as much as I can given the circumstances I will some day turn it into a fulfilling career

>> No.4981102

I have no idea
I figure if I didn’t truly want to paint, I’d have given up by now, like all the other passing interests I’ve had
I mean I enjoy art, but I’m just not good at it and I hate that

>> No.4981103

Just draw everyday.

>> No.4981104

>>4981087
Social security due on the 10th
Bills due on the 14th
Income tax due on the 20th
And food.
I highly doubt I'd still be doing this if I didn't need money.

>> No.4981117

>>4981087
it's actually fun when you get used to being mad

>> No.4981118

>>4981087
Coom. I draw coom art everyday.

>> No.4981121

>>4981087
Have a goal and move towards the goal
You feel a deep satisfaction moving towards the goal

>> No.4981138
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4981138

i am not a whiny bitch who needs extra motivation for one of the most fun and rewarding hobbies out there

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>>4981138
Yeah I’ll take some extra motivation, and pepperoni on half

>> No.4981218

>>4981087
The dreams. All the coom art i'll be making, all the coombux i'll be getting. All that and at the end, i'll still be skilled enough to draw other things

>> No.4981229

The need to create

>> No.4981230

>>4981097
Best of luck to you

>> No.4981234

My goals, the fun I have, my love for anime loli, and the coom

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>>4981089

>> No.4981236

>>4981218
>i'll still be skilled enough to draw other things
you won’t, because you’ll spend time drawing porn instead of those “other things”
think how long it will take you to get to the point of being good with porn, then consider the time you’d need to invest into all the other shit
you’ll either be a successful and productive porn artist or you’ll be getting better at drawing other shit, you can’t have both

>> No.4981261

>>4981236
You don't get it. There's a certain threshold in coom art. A lot of the popular coomartists reach a plateau where they easily draw girls & guys with the same bodytype, the same outlining, shading and such. Once you reach that plateau and have enough bux, you don't need to train much in drawing porn. It wont take forever

>> No.4981276

>>4981089
Same. Been drawing since I was 5 and i just love the process of it. I only bother to learn new technics when I want to draw something different than I used to

>> No.4981280

>>4981261
unless we have a very different idea of what profitable porn art looks like, you would need to spend your days drawing said porn, it’s not something you finish in two hours
there’s also the matter of muscle memory and habit, if you spend years “easily drawing gurls and guys with the same bodytype”, it will mar your other work, there is no way around it. you can’t repeat the same thing daily and not have it become a part of your process

>> No.4981305

>>4981280
Depends on your efficiency. I draw weebshit. The most popular, efficient, and flexible artstyles exists in the manga i read. A lot of artists start from porn and move to other genres. Its very possible to be efficient in drawing manga as it simplifies a lot of details and basically no color if you're drawing a page.

You're just reluctant to learn. Youre better at telling yourself why you shouldn't do this or that but not looking at the opportunities. Unless youre 70 years old you can always learn new techniques

>> No.4981308

>>4981305
>wanga porn
>profitable
did I miss something?
can you post your work? or at least artists you’re basing this off of? and I assume you mean western artists, you’re deluded if you think you’re going to break into the japanese doujin market

>> No.4981316

>>4981305
Who even pays for black and white manga style porn?

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>>4981308
Go on, tell me how i'll never make it and how im deluded. Theres plenty of western artist with manga-esque style like Deadslug, Krekkov( indonesian btw), s-purple, Cutesexyrobutts

Now post yours

>>4981316
Krekkov is mostly greyscale

>> No.4981326

>>4981316
*look at comiket and japanese libraries*
a lot of people?

Though "western" manga style doujin porn? that's pretty rare

>> No.4981328

Spite

>> No.4981330

>>4981321
bro, I’m not trying to put down your work, I asked for it because what you’re describing s not something that earns any money outside japan, and none of the artists you named do what you described
if you mean pseudo animu, that’s one thing, if you mean manga, and I assume you do since you mentioned no colors and drawing pages, that is not going to fly on the western porn market, and it won’t fly in the japanese market either because they have genuine manga porn and you’re a foreign imitation

>> No.4981332

>>4981330
Alright, post your work doe

>> No.4981334

>>4981326
I think it’s a given we’re not talking about selling prints on cons in Japan here.

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>>4981332
fine, here’s a study I’m doing right now
I don’t see what this has to do with the discussion

>> No.4981350

>>4981339
Pretty good. Just making sure im not talking to a crab here

>> No.4981357 [DELETED] 

>>4981350
what does any of what I said hav to do with crabbing? I literally made comment about your art or how you do things, I just made a statement about the profitability of a product that you’re not even producing as of yet
like, I genuinely don’t see anyone paying for it in the west, and given the track record of western “mangaka” trying to break into japan, I’m seeing that happening either
I mean this in as friendly way as I can on an anonymous imageboard, I think you should reevaluate your plans for the future

>> No.4981362

>>4981350
what does any of what I said have to do with crabbing? I literally made no comment about your art or how you do things, I just made a statement about the profitability of a product that you’re not even producing as of yet
like, I genuinely don’t see anyone paying for it in the west, and given the track record of western “mangaka” trying to break into japan, I’m seeing that happening either
I mean this in as friendly way as I can on an anonymous imageboard, I think you should reevaluate your plans for the future

>> No.4981363

>>4981357
let the retard waste his life's time

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>>4981362
Pin-up art. Normies mainly pay artists on patreon for essentially pin-ups.

You said that drawing porn is an exclusive choice, sure if thats all you wanna do. But don't you don't even take into measure that drawing porn is not an exclusive skill. Theres proportion, movement, fluid dynamics(cum), and clothing depending on the setting of your smut. Drawing those in porn and in "another thing" is very possible. See this piece by shadman. If you dont know already, he draws porn mainly

>> No.4981381

>>4981370
shadman can draw things that are not meme porn?
Who knew

>> No.4981383

My dick, no joke.

>> No.4981385

>>4981370
yeah, and shad draws western porn, not black and white manga
he also spends days on each image, which is why he cut down his outpost to like one a month to work on studies (your image is from that period), and then had to completely stop his normal stuff to work on something else, hence why the last image was from june
shadman has nothing to do with what you’re proposing

>> No.4981390

>>4981385
What the fuck do you want a, perfect example? Nah i ain't got time for this do whatever the fuck you want. All im saying is drawing porn is profitable, mainstream even

>> No.4981400

>>4981390
nobody said it wasn’t, the discussion was about your “black and white manga” porn
>no time
it takes me like 30 seconds to reply, I’m painting right now
it’s up to you, I was just responding to something you posted in the thread, I didn’t call you here

>> No.4981401

nothing
by

>> No.4981403

>>4981390
>profitable
to a degree, but with black and white manga? to be honest I know of only one artist who does that. Not saying it doesn't exist since obviously I have a counter-example, but colored comics are more frequent, and color illustrations/pin-up is the norm.

>mainstream
allow me to press "doubt"

>> No.4981424

>>4981403
>>4981400
> Its very possible to be efficient in drawing manga as it simplifies a lot of details and basically no color if you're drawing a page.

How did you come to a conclusion that it is black white porn im trying to sell? In my mind it was my passion project. you don't always have to use color on your piece if youre not selling it

>> No.4981451

>>4981424
because the question of time was brought up, because drawing porn doesn’t leave time to study other things if you’re doing it full time, to which you replied talking about the efficiency of manga because it’s black and white

>> No.4981453

>>4981087
me no good with word
me need to draw what i want to say
and my love is stored in the drawing

>> No.4981456

>>4981424
>All the coom art i'll be making, all the coombux i'll be getting

>> No.4981457
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>>4981087
if I were to compare serial killing to drawing, I'm definitely more of a product killer than a process killer
I get satisfaction out of finished pieces, but only enjoy some parts of the process of actually getting to the finished piece

>> No.4981458

>>4981451
And we're back to square one. If youre efficient enough with your coom art, you don't need to spend a lifetime to draw them. Thats it

>> No.4981460

>>4981458
The only evidence towards that claim you posted was shadman, who literally did the opposite, and had to give up porn to study even though he has literally years of experience drawing it and was very productive with it.
Porn you can just shit out will not get you money.

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>>4981460
>Porn you can just shit out will not get you money
Oh fuck haha HAHAHA . You do not know CSRB. I think his art is stale shit but he poops them out like chicken egg.

And at this point you're just a broken clock saying that drawing porn will cause you to never be able to draw other things even for fun. wrong

>> No.4981478

>>4981089
Same

>> No.4981482

>>4981472
I said porn YOU can just shit out.
Sakimichan finishes her paintings in like 5 hours, it would take you 60, and it would take you 10 years to get to her level if you actually focused on it. You have never painted in your life and it shows.
>but manga
Ignoring the fact no one would pay you, even the likes of naoki urusawa take an hour to sketch one page. One hour just to have the layout. Not details, not backgrounds, not inking, not screentone, just layout.
You are vastly overestimating yourself and underestimating the workload.
Both Sakimichan and CSR are EXTREMELY proficient painters.

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>>4981482
Aight, i guess i should just give up. If im not the best i'll just be with the rest. All that you said applies to you too by the way

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>>4981483
nice

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>>4981092
I was surprised to see someone larping as me before I even replied
>>4981483
Based and no u pilled
>>4981087
Personally, along with my contempt for the world and the life I’ve been forced to live, art offers a fictitious world where nothing else matters. A home away from home. I also want to be a great artist and get noticed by the world at large, really make sure people know my name and leave my mark on history, and also sleep with lots of women.

>> No.4981500

>>4981483
Are you retarded? Why are you so sensitive? I’m not saying you should give up, I’m not insulting you, I’m saying you’re basing your views on very proficient people and outliers at that, you’re setting yourself up for failure because you’re operating under delusions.
>All that you said applies to you too by the way
You have literally idea what my work looks like and you’re lashing out emotionally as a defense mechanism. Get a grip, anon.

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>>4981500
>Sakimichan finishes her paintings in like 5 hours, it would take you 60, and it would take you 10 years to get to her level if you actually focused on it. You have never painted in your life and it shows.
You also have literally idea what my work looks like, it wasnt even a finished piece.

>> No.4981512

>>4981503
I know because you think the image you posted was quick, you never attempted to paint

>> No.4981515

>>4981512
show us then, maestro. What is your plan anyway? Im not gonna stop what im drawing and even if it doesnt make any bucks, i still could, idk, work in a job?

>> No.4981520

>>4981515
You’re not doing anything to be stopped, and if your plan B is to just fail, then ok. The only thing I have said to you is that you have a skewed view of reality.

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>>4981520
Alright, Youre just awfully negative. I wouldn't worry about a goddamn thing about what you said.

Do you even have a plan? What do you draw for im genuinely curious. Do you enjoy it?

>> No.4981536

>>4981524
Yeah, I’m alright, thanks. Do porn if you want, there’s nothing wrong with that, I’m just cautioning against going into it expecting to just stroll in and use it a spring board into whatever else you’re thinking of. If it were that easy, everyone would be doing it, and contrary to what you apparently believe, that is not the case.

>> No.4981542

>>4981536
Nothing's easy m8, nothing. At least drawing is enjoyable so i hope you enjoy what youre drawing too

>> No.4981545
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4981545

I enjoy it

>> No.4981550

>>4981542
You too. If nothing else, good luck.

>> No.4981551

>>4981087
My occasional dreams about the one chick that refuses to get out of my head for years, that or huge amounts of bottled rage.

>> No.4981563

>>4981500
>Are you retarded?
> I’m not insulting you
Kek just chill out man

>> No.4981573

>>4981087
which choice I have?

>> No.4981577

>>4981573
Tfw, I know that feel

>> No.4981580

Damn, /ic/ porn arguments. Classic

>> No.4981584

>>4981087
i keep going out of spite and hatred

>> No.4981585

I finally have become the human photocopier I dreamed of. Hours and hours of work and fundie grinding just to be able to perfectly recreate any piece of art I enjoy.
For some reason, I always felt guilty buying posters and I shouldn't hang anything on the wall I didn't make with my two hands. So I spent 3 years drawing until I could pump em out.
Now I just steal art put a few filters over it and post it on rebubble and make a livable wage

>> No.4981588

>>4981087
Art is the only thing I'm good at, and might even have to jump on a more profitable market/niche because currently I'm earning very small. My classmates who graduated college are now working in huge companies while here I am a dropout, I want to get a regular job loke flipping burger but I'm ashamed my classmates find out. So I keep with my art giving off the illusion that I'm happy doing what I love, but in reality I'm struggling financially.

>> No.4981617

>>4981580
yeah, why people here are so focused in make money with porn? it is so saturated. I bet it is easier to make money by drawing on the streets.

>> No.4981625

>>4981617
the 80's called, they want you because they also hate internet and dont want anything to do with it

>> No.4981629

>>4981625
we have a comedian here guys!

>> No.4981639

>>4981617
Cus they like porn
Next question

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>>4981617
I asked because I unironically like drawing it
I dropped out of the discussion a while ago, though

>> No.4981650

>>4981639
it really don't seems like they are doing it for love.

>> No.4981659

>>4981647
Youre drawing out of reference?

>> No.4981664

>>4981089
Same.After the first year it becomes much much enjoyble,you actually know what you are doing and you only are used to your drawing looking like shit.
I don't even play games anymore,I spend all my free time drawing

>> No.4981708

>>4981647
>Proposes artists to be street beggars
>>4981520
>you have a skewed view of reality
o i am laffin

>> No.4981721
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4981721

Honestly i enjoy that with comics/manga there is always something to do and you almost never get stuck with "dang i dunno what to draw". But i worry sometimes because i get too stuck in the moment and end up delaying other things that i should be doing instead of drawing.

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>>4981659
loosely, I’m mostly just practicing working in a single layer and solving problems with lasso and overpainting

>>4981708
did you click the wrong post or something?

>> No.4981748

I like drawing and hope to one day work as a tattoo artist

>> No.4981752

>>4981742
So what you just redraw another coom art and make it look worse? (even the original looks terrible) Do you even sketch as a base or do you think painting can magically make things better without proper structure?

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4981759

I dont know

>> No.4981764

>>4981752
what part of
>just practicing working in a single layer and solving problems with lasso and overpainting
are you confused by?

>> No.4981768

only going because I'm not dead yet despite my best attempts

>> No.4981774

>>4981764
Look man if you do this to yourself youre just gonna end up as >>4981585 I can tell youre bad at even painting the collar when it looks like a bent cardboard and the hair looks like cotton candy. this is not recoverable by lasso tool

>> No.4981784

>>4981774
>if you don’t copy references exactly you’re going to be a photocopier
oh ok, post work

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>>4981087
SAW EXACT THREAD ON FIT
YOU SON OF A FUCKİNG BITCH

>> No.4981823
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4981823

drawing is real fucin fun and relaxing. im not even that good i just want to do it pretty much everyday for the past decade almost idk lol.
>If you lack motivation stop focusing on impoving all the time and just draw fanart or some shit for fun.

>> No.4981882

>>4981087
Struggling

>> No.4981886

>>4981882
And a lot of time i already spend on this all.

>> No.4981892

>>4981089
fpbp as always

>> No.4981894

>>4981087
People like you. unironically.

>> No.4982549

>>4981784
>Photocopies another work
>Not being a photocopier
oh no he's retarded

>> No.4982585

>studies are bad now
the absolute state of this board

>> No.4982614

>>4982585
Well tracing another drawing's not gonna teach you anything but photocopying. Isolated studies on how to construct hair, clothing,and facial features is way more efficient

>> No.4982623

>>4982614
>tracing
lolwut
pyw

>> No.4982625

>>4982623
Mate please, what do you call this but tracing
>>4981742

>> No.4983092

Love for the craft NIBBA

>> No.4983735

>>4981087

My metabolic processes.

>> No.4983971

I don't know. Man, I've been trying to stop and drop it completely, but I keep failing

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>>4981664
>The first year studying theory and fundamentals

:(

>Most of the time after that

Pic related

You just need to show up for the first year

>> No.4984023

>>4981087
the pain of doing is less than the pain of not doing

>> No.4984141

>>4981087
Well my way of thinking is that I'm experiencing my 7 minutes of dreaming before I completely die, and so I like the idea of becoming an artist to which I draw.

>> No.4984158

>>4981759
You have my empathy. You're at a crossroads, and its your choice to make on which decision to go in this misty purposeless reality we all experience. I personally have decided to enjoy it, the mystery, the discoveries, and all else. But now its time for you to make a choice. And hey, you might reach this crossroads once again later on, but I want you to know even then its still you who has control over yourself.

>> No.4984248

>>4981087
Art was something for me that was fun when my life was shitty
I never shared much but it was okay because I could go home and draw something to let the steam off
When my life started to get stable I wanted to meet other artists
I decided to start drawing a webcomic, wasted 2 years on it and I realized it was shit and it was no where close to how I dreamt it could be

Basically I’ve learned I’m an idiot who was wasting his time
I quit drawing my dream, I’m not having fun, my life sucks again, but I keep trying to get better because I want it to be fun again, I want to create dreams

>> No.4984494

>>4984248
Its okay that you felt disappointed in your work, every artist had the same experience and struggle. The fact that you kept going means you could still create the things that could potentially be way better than your webcomic.

since you stopped, mind sharing a few pages of it here?

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>>4981087
small consistent improvements, working to be as good as thoose that inspire me and it's genuinly relaxing and enjoyable.

>> No.4985043

>>4984494
I just hate all time I wasted
I hate my past incompetence that almost felt like people thought I deserved to stay in my place
I hate that I keep playing catch-up
I hate that I lost my feeling of excitement when I draw, now all I see is shit
I want to have fun again

>> No.4985295

>>4984494
>>4985043
>since you stopped, mind sharing a few pages of it here?
I already know the problems in my comic, there would be no reason for me to show its absolute/beg/ tier everything. Less reason for people who know me to see me venting

>> No.4985393

I only recently got back into drawing after a decade of not doing it.
The thing that makes me want to keep drawing now and improving is that I'm old enough and far gone enough that I'm now comfortable with drawing shitty pictures of my weird fetish, and want to improve enough to make pictures others find hot.

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4985420

A little bit of love and pure hatred for almost everything that exists. It feels good to slowly improve while having a constant tangible record of the journey that is learning to draw.

>> No.4985624

>>4985295
people always seem to have a hard time giving me any crit honestly. but will tell me "lol soul"
it just means its that bad

>> No.4985974

>>4985043
Let me tell you brother, if you continue drawing and see just one good thing about your piece, something like you liked how the eyes turned out, how the hair flows well, or how you didn't mess up the lines this time, that is enjoyment. It may be scarce for now but thats okay, thats why you learn from your mistakes and try to do better

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>>4981087
It's fun

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>>4981087
I wanna make visual novels and dating sims, they make me really happy and kept me going thru some tough times, All i gotta do is make art thats beautiful to express the beauty of romance, ill get it done one day i wont give up.

>> No.4986210

>>4981087
>OP
Constructive criticis:m. Really...

>> No.4986226

>>4981087
One day I will make it. :D

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>What keeps you going /ic/?

Pain.

>> No.4986371

I'll never get married or have children

>> No.4986372

>>4981087
My spirt is unbreakable and never falters. I have unlimited energy and power. Each day I grow even stronger.

>> No.4986378

>>4981087
i want to one day get away from the life of being an expendable company slave.

>> No.4986393

It’s fun.

>> No.4986420

>>4981087
Contempt.
I enjoy the idea of making the very best things I can and keeping these things from people. I don't upload anywhere, or show my work to anyone, and I will make sure none of my work survives me.
People would tell me to draw "for fun", "for passion" etc. so that's what I do. People told me I should just have a day job while I make my art for "passion". Then my day job is all I will contribute to society. Nobody will get to see a sketch. The same public who dismissed me as someone who's driven "not by art but by greed" when I only wanted money so I could dedicate myself fully to art, will pay easily for low effort porn and other garbage that is made from the ground up to make money, by people who don't have an ounce of passion or voice in themselves.
So you know what? If this is what people want, I'll just let them have that. I hope they choke on it.
If I manage to make anyone upset with my "selfishness" or to make them simmer and say "y-your work is probably shit!" while they actually wonder if my work is actually any good and they might be missing out on something, that's all the satisfaction I need. I finish a piece and if I'm particularly happy with it I think "it's wonderful that none of these stupid fucks will get to see this". It's my fucking hoard, it's my treasure, it's my private fucking garden and I enjoy every second of watching people swallow excrement from my porch while I make better and better things that they will never touch and soil. All that society will ever get from me is my shitty day job. I will not "enhance" the lives of any of these thankless freeloading animals and it's the sweetest revenge.

>> No.4986440

>>4986420
Huh, I’m almost the same as you.
I don’t upload anywhere my ongoing comic (200+ pages counting), I will make only 3 copies, and only my mom (with my dad if he wants to but he hates reading), my godfather and a good friend will read it.
Reason is, I don’t want any pressure to please other people. I just want to draw whatever I feel like it, and most importantly, give life to my characters.

>> No.4986459

>>4986440
No, that's not remotely similar. If I were in your position I would probably quit art as there would be nothing to motivate me. It's depriving this shitty undeserving humanity of potential happiness, emotion or inspiration that pushes me to work harder and pour all of myself into what I do. There's the faint hope (I know it will never happen, but I allow myself to have this almost religious faith) that the public will one day get sick and tired of pornography and corporate garbage, what if I found them on their knees, telling me that they finally need the stuff they told me to do "for passion" while they gave hacks and mercenaries money and I had to work a shitty day job I hated? The whole point of making art for me is having a backlog of the very best art I can make exactly for that moment, only to tell them NO, you won't have any of it. They don't need to know what I make, and they'll probably think my grapes are sour, this is only for me and me alone, I need to know how much value I have taken from their lives. So just like the garden I'm building is mine, my concern for making beautiful things is all for me and me alone, and just like people will only get my day job, to them I only reserve my grudge. It's what they wanted from me and I will stand by this deal to the letter.

>> No.4988114

>>4981089
this

>> No.4988135

>>4982625
go back to your canvas online class you child

>> No.4988138

>implying I'm still going

>> No.4988139

nothing these days. i've been motivated by things in the past. first it was the desire to express myself through art, then it was to impress people with skills. I fell in love and the motivation became impressing the girl of my dreams. we got together and my motivation became making money. then we broke up at the start of this year and it broke my heart. i haven't had any motivation since, despite it being the only way i have to make money. I guess this is what the kids call depression.

>> No.4988142

>>4981087
My day to day, chosen profession is something that I love, but it won't bring in enough dough when my wife start having kids down the road. Eventually having a second source of income to survive and support the ones I love is a fierce motivation. I love art, but the driving motivator that will determine whether or not you will continue to study art seriously in the midst of a busy and tired schedule, or if you will try and stop after a month (every time), is if you MUST do it.

You can do this. In fact, you must do this. More than just an economic reality driving you, not making art is more painful than making art. There is a part of me and of you which MUST make art.

>> No.4988146

>>4988139
Fuck her. Fuck everything that is wrong with this world. You can succeed. You can fucking do this. Not for her. Not for someone else. You can do this for you.

>> No.4988213

Nothing, I quit regularly. Hanging around better artists just makes me feel like shit.

>> No.4988443
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>>4986369
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>4981087
i want to get good enough to bring my waifus to reality because i know i'm dying alone

>> No.4988601

>>4986420
>>4986459
What’s you day job that you hate so much?

>> No.4988879

>>4981087
i like drawing and my family and friends support me

>>4981089
fpbp

>> No.4990979

>>4988139
Nigger, she's probably rubbing thighs with some other men right now and you're fucking depressed over this hoe for a whole fucking year? Bitches aren't worth putting yourself under so much fucking grief man. You'll find another person eventually.

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>>4981087
The pursuit of power

>> No.4991231

>>4981087
>What keeps you going /ic/?
Piracy

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>>4991004
Based and motivated-pilled

>> No.4991424

>>4981087
Unironically anger

>> No.4991579

>>4991231
based

>> No.4991607

>>4981087
I have fun and it makes me happy even if the drawing I end up with is not very good.

>> No.4991676

cognitive deconstruction

>> No.4991932

Why should I stop trying?

>> No.4991941

>>4986459
you'll die and nobody will care about your sad little garden :(

>> No.4991955

>>4991676
I read this as cognitive dissonance and thought "word, this guy gets it"

>> No.4992039

>>4981087
Art is fun. I don't care about improving or comparing myself to other artists because comparing myself won't make my art improve.

Now I literally JUST DRAW. That's it. I don't watch tutorials or youtubers. I just practice using reference and that's it.

Plus I want to make my own comics and stories. Drawing my own OCs is all that matters to me.

>> No.4993830

it's a hobby

>> No.4993850

>>4981087
Disdain for plebs.
and >>4981089
in that order.

>> No.4993989

>>4981321
>Krekkov( indonesian
...Where do you think indonesia is? Honestly i don't understand the need for saying western and eastern when people obviously mean japan and america

>> No.4993998

>>4993989
burger geography

>> No.4994094
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4994094

Cooming

>> No.4994180

Because I enjoy spending my leisure time drawing, maybe with a movie in the background.
I feel like I get more out of it than playing vidya all the time.

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>>4981087
fear of not making it, it's the only thing i'm a bit good at and i can't work a normal job so if i don't keep going i'm looking at potential homelessness and suicide i guess if neet bux run out

>> No.4994248

>>4991004
This, basically.
The ability to create turns me on. I can make new worlds and new people. I make my creations do whatever I want and nobody can stop me.

>> No.4994259

>>4981087
Nothing. My own force of will and inability to give up. I'm months away from homelessness yet still I draw. Either I eke out a living or I die forgotten.

>> No.4994354

>>4981087
I dont know actually. I just like doing it

>> No.4997796

>>4986459
>I need to know how much value I have taken from their lives.
Priceless, OPEN UP THE BORDERS OF WANO KUNI NOW!!!

>> No.4999515

>>4981087
Illustrating, writing & publishing a webcomic, or graphic novels, about my alternate history mythological-fantasy world.

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5000287

Already gotten work as a concept artist, it’s every bit as hard as they said it would be.
No anime hero journey here.
You’ll get your shit kicked in the entire way, feels good though.

>> No.5000290

>>4984963
Holy hell, color blind much. Ewwww

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>>4981087
>>4981089

>> No.5000538
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5000538

Cooming

>> No.5002748

>>4994094
Gmi