/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4967106]

F YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

1.-screenshot the image and post that instead

2.-change camera capture settings to something smaller

3.-send to computer and resize in picresize.com

There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it.

Previous Thread:>>4963343

[Anonymous No.4967135]

i have no idea what i was going for with this. trying to come up with an interesting mecha design

[Anonymous No.4967146]

>>4967106
F indeed

[Anonymous No.4967148]

how do you determine line direction for cross hatching?

[Anonymous No.4967157]

>>4967148
following the form

[Anonymous No.4967159]

>>4967135
draw lightly with pencil and then go over it with clean ink lines. Drawing messy doesn't allow you to see all the errors.

[Anonymous No.4967164]

how do you determine line direction for cross hatching?

>>4967157
i'm struggling to determine how to distinguish the walls from the roof that extends all the way to the viewer

[Anonymous No.4967170]

PYW NGMI crab

[Anonymous No.4967174]

>>4967170
Why did you sign your post?

[Anonymous No.4967176]

>>4967164
or maybe I should be rotating away from the center or something

[Anonymous No.4967177]

>>4967159
that was actually done over a layer of pencil sketch and i made an active effort to be conservative with lines this time, it's actually something i struggle with.

[Anonymous No.4967185]

>>4967164
>>4967176
wheres the light source?

[Anonymous No.4967186]

>>4967185
on top of the viewer, darker at the end of the hallway

[Anonymous No.4967187]

>>4967174
PYW NGMI crab

[Anonymous No.4967237]

>>4967170
okay, but i'm still going to keep crabbing

[Anonymous No.4967262]

[Anonymous No.4967269]

is it obvious that i've no idea what im doing?

[Anonymous No.4967273]

>>4967237
Now post other people’s work.

[Anonymous No.4967278]

ogre

[Anonymous No.4967280]

>>4967273

[Anonymous No.4967340]

>>4967269
Yes, sorry anon

[Anonymous No.4967366]

>>4967135
moar line clarity and line weight difference
>>4967164
Anon above is right, distinguish a light source, and crosshatching must follow the shape and be consistent as well
>>4967237
muddy and messy, try this with a h-2h pencil, then go on with a pen
>>4967262
not that bad, keep it up
>>4967269
You are chicken scratching, try out line exercises to form a long confident strokes. Create a4 size canvas and go smash zigzags straight and bended lines on it
>>4967278
Not that bad, delete the nostrils and lips, add one stroke to distinguish a nose and one for lips

[Anonymous No.4967370]

>>4967366
Based crab cooker

[Anonymous No.4967374]

>>4967366
Pyw crab

[Anonymous No.4967385]

>>4967374
>If I will convince everyone t-that this anon is a c-crab noone will notice me, crab-chan, r-right?

[Anonymous No.4967391]

>>4967135
I can't really tell what i'm looking at, maybe it can be fixed with proper lines and colors

[Anonymous No.4967393]

how do you actually get out of /beg/

[Anonymous No.4967394]

>>4967170
Faggot lobster

[Anonymous No.4967399]

>>4967393
Study fundies specifically for what you want to create
For example if you want to draw mechas you won't study hampton's anatomy book

[Anonymous No.4967401]

>>4967399
what exactly are fundies

[Anonymous No.4967404]

>>4967262
Is that a JOJO refefence?

[Anonymous No.4967415]

>>4967366
red line it

[Anonymous No.4967425]

>>4967415
Sorry anon, too busy right now

[Anonymous No.4967430]

I'm interested in pixel art. I've done a few pieces already but I feel like I'm lacking some basics.

Could I study and practice with books like Fun with a pencil using pixel art?

[Anonymous No.4967434]

solid hands?

[Anonymous No.4967441]

>>4967434
Yes, these are solid

[Anonymous No.4967442]

Some drawings I did yesterday.

[Anonymous No.4967449]

>>4967442
A wee bit of line weight and it should look even better

[Anonymous No.4967458]

>>4967135
looks like a plant demon rather than a mecha, maybe less 'guts' and more metal? still like it though.

[Anonymous No.4967468]

>>4967434
the nail of the thumb on the right drawing should be facing away from the hand at 90 degrees, not upwards.

[Anonymous No.4967475]

Drawing men is way easier for me then women. Is the simple reason because Im a man?

[Anonymous No.4967476]

>>4967401
Perspective, form, anatomy, composition, value/light, color.

[Anonymous No.4967485]

Drawing male faces is way easy then female. Is the simple reason because Im a male?
Also God Bless the guy who told me about flipping your image horizontally to find your mistakes

[Anonymous No.4967487]

>>4967485
Heres the cropped version my bad

[Anonymous No.4967496]

starting to get it

>>4967487
pick any of the sticky books my man
>>4967442
I wouldn't place the HL in the middle of the picture
>>4967434
draw hrough the cilinder like forms of the fingers so you can notice the direction of the planes

[Anonymous No.4967505]

Working on the hair at the moment. What do you guys think?

>>4967496
Very nice anon! Do you draw your faces from imagination, and how long does a face typical take you to draw?

[Anonymous No.4967508]

>>4967496
Ive been doing drawing is fun. The jump from silly cartoon heads to "draw a real head" is really jarring though

[Anonymous No.4967513]

>>4967508
*Fun with a Pencil* Im having a stroke I think

[Anonymous No.4967517]

>>4967442
Not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4967524]

>>4967517
Welcome to /beg/. 20% of people are actual beginners 80% are faggots starving for attention posting in the wrong thread

[Anonymous No.4967525]

>>4967508
Nice. I started fun with a pencil a few minutes ago. Doing the silly little cartoon heads right now.

[Anonymous No.4967543]

AM I FUCKING GETTING THE ASARO THING

[Anonymous No.4967553]

>>4967524
That would imply 80% of the work in this thread is not /beg/, either that or you're even shittier than them which would be hilarious

[Anonymous No.4967556]

>>4967553
>>4967524

It/s called jealousy

[Anonymous No.4967594]

How am I doing in terms of conveying form through shadows? Anything else I need help with?

[Anonymous No.4967596]

>>4967553
>>4967556
Its more like people being way insecure in their own abilities and thinking they belong with people who are actually garbage when their skills are on a level AT LEAST good enough to do commission work

[Anonymous No.4967621]

[Anonymous No.4967623]

tfw i meant to say POLYHEDRON


._.

[Anonymous No.4967624]

>>4967496
good call, this my first completed interior since learning perspective so trying to get used to completing pictures.
>>4967517
>>4967524
my fundies aren't consistent enough to not be /beg/, clean images are half the battle.

[Anonymous No.4967643]

>>4967543
you should keep drawing instead waiting for approval from anons, you completely lack the mileage to be asking for specific advice when your whole image is bad, and you don't excel at anything. Draw more and consider taking up dynamic sketching by peter han.
>>4967596
PYW

[Anonymous No.4967651]

>>4967643

[Anonymous No.4967699]

>>4967651
everytime.

[Anonymous No.4967712]

some paint

[Anonymous No.4967716]

>>4967476
is there a perfect drawing that shows you have understanding in on of these areas

[Anonymous No.4967738]

>>4967716
It's not about being perfect, since there not agreed up threshold that shows you are /int/ or even /madeit/, however the ability to be well rounded in those areas consistently is a indicator of your skill.

[Anonymous No.4967770]

>>4967643
I clearly specified YESTERDAY THAT I DID IT WITH A FUCKING MOUSE ONLY AND LISTEN TO THIS PIECE OF SHIT SO THAT I COULD OVERLAY IT WITH THE REFERENCE
DO YOU GET THAT? ARE YOU STUPID? ARE YOU A STUPID PIECE OF SHIT? THIS WASN'T COMPLEX AT ALL AND YOU FUCKED IT UP
LINES ARE BAD? NO SHIT I DID IT LIKE THAT AS TO BE ABLE TO AGAIN
OVERLAY IT

[Anonymous No.4967792]

>>4967770
>I clearly specified YESTERDAY HAT I DID IT WITH A FUCKING MOUSE ONLY AND LISTEN TO THIS PIECE OF SHIT SO THAT I COULD OVERLAY IT WITH THE REFERENCE
imagine believing that you're important enough that people would actually remember what you posted.
>OVERLAY IT
after that gayass triad? fuck you faggot, figure out your problems for yourself.

[Anonymous No.4967795]

>>4967792
Want me to make sure you and every single on here remember it?
WANT ME TO DO SO?
FINE TIME TO LET HIM DO HIS WORK

[Anonymous No.4967797]

>>4967738
its not about perfect. more indicators that you're "getting it"
like for anatomy it would be being able to make a figure with convincing anatomy in any angle

[Anonymous No.4967809]

>>4967795
cringe, go draw retard, no one is responsible for your homework.

[Anonymous No.4967812]

>>4967809
you'll remember, Ill make sure of it
you failed at answering a simple question youre an imbecile

[Anonymous No.4967824]

>>4967712
>>4967621
>>4967594
>>4967543
>>4967505
>>4967496
>>4967487
>>4967442
>>4967434
>>4967404
>>4967278
>>4967269
>>4967269
>>4967262
>>4967176
>>4967164
>>4967237
>>4967135
ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID?
SIMPLE QUESTIONS REQUIRE SIMPLE ANSWERS

[Anonymous No.4967826]

>>4967824
i don't understand what are you trying to say

[Anonymous No.4967827]

>>4967812
you assumed I knew who you were and what what the fuck you were talking about when I didn't, now you're squealing like a faggot. you're embarrassing and im going to fuck and draw. Have fun with being a helpless sperg.

[Anonymous No.4967831]

>>4967712
>>4967621
>>4967594
>>4967543
>>4967505
>>4967496
>>4967487
>>4967442
>>4967434
>>4967404
>>4967278
>>4967269
>>4967269
>>4967262
>>4967176
>>4967164
>>4967237
>>4967135
DONT BE STUPID
SIMPLE QUESTIONS REQUIRE SIMPLE ANSWERS
NO MORE NO LESS
>>4967827
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT
THATS A SIMPLE SENTENCE FOR YOU
FUCK
YOURE FUCKING STUPID

[Anonymous No.4967832]

>>4967770
>>4967795
>>4967824
Was it autism?

[Anonymous No.4967835]

>>4967832
NO ITS NOT AUTISM
WHEN GIVEN A QUESTION? YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION WITH THE EXACT INFORMATION THATS NEEDED, NO MORE NO LESS
THATS IT
SO IF I ASK THIS >>4967543
>>4967643
THIS ANSWER IS STUPID AND IT GETS EVEN MORE STUPID ONCE YOU READ THIS
>>4967770
THIS PERSON IS COMPLETELY UNFIT FOR EVEN ANSWERING A SIMPLE QUESTION
THIS GUY IS A FUCKING IMBECILE

[Anonymous No.4967836]

>>4967832
He’s preparing himself for nofap

[Anonymous No.4967837]

>>4967699
Why do you think ANY fucking person would out themselves to the whole general by posting their work and attaching shitposting to it? What a stupid fucking question. Drop dead, cunt

[Anonymous No.4967843]

>>4967827
AGAIN, ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID? YOU ANSWER WHATS ASKED OF YOU, NO MORE NO LESS
IF I ASK YOU 2+2, YOU, BEING THE ABSOLUTE IMBECILE THAT YOU ARE WOULD GO ON TO TALK ABOUT HOW "FOCUS ON ADDING THE NUMBERS ANON AND ONLY ADDING THE NUMBERS, YOU SHOULDNT BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE THREAD SO KEEP AND RIGHT NOW YOURE NOT GOOD AT FUNCTIONS (FUCK IF I KNOW WHY YOU WOULD MENTION THAT)
SO AGAIN, ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID? DO YOU LOVE TO WRITE MEANINGLESS BULLSHIT BECAUSE YOUR ANSWER WAS A NON ANSWER

[Anonymous No.4967850]

This is the level of stupid you're on
>>4967543
>you should keep drawing instead waiting for approval from anons
Meaningless "advice", answers nothing
>you completely lack the mileage to be asking for specific advice when your whole image is bad
>and you don't excel at anything
Answers nothing, unrelated tangent
>Draw more and consider taking up dynamic sketching by peter han.
>hehe, I found out about peter han today, let's flex that knowledge, I'm such a fucking artist guys
FIRST THREE BLOCKS COULD BE SUMMED UP IN "NO"
You're a fucking idiot anon

[Anonymous No.4967852]

>>4967827
>you're embarrassing and im going to fuck and draw
Don't drool on the paper you stupid piece of shit

[Anonymous No.4967853]

I demand everyone to post their coomer art!

[Anonymous No.4967871]

>>4967853
yes

[Anonymous No.4967873]

These hand planes alright?

[Anonymous No.4967875]

>>4967853

[Anonymous No.4967877]

>>4967853
ok (>>4967873)

[Anonymous No.4967887]

Let us forgo the schizo moments.
Any have an recommended books or videos for drawing facial features? Also hands and feet? I did a good amount of Fun with a Pencil and he didnt go much into detail with facial features. My head shapes and poses look alright so far but my actual faces look like asbergers and my hands and feet look like they have osteoarthritis

[Anonymous No.4967889]

>>4967824
>>4967831
>Oh cool I got a response, I wonder what i-

[Anonymous No.4967890]

>>4967889
made you look, again, :(

[Anonymous No.4967891]

>>4967837
you must be pretty fucking /beg/ if you dont want to out yourself here of all places.

[Anonymous No.4967892]

>>4967891
I just dont want people to stop giving me (You)s because Im a cunt

[Anonymous No.4967896]

>>4967843
ok anon, you've been on the computer long enough, go rest your eyes, drink your apple juice, go to bed

[Anonymous No.4967898]

>get home from work
>eat dinner
>draw until bedtime
>still feel like I haven't practiced enough

I wish I hadn't stopped drawing after highschool. There's not enough time now.

[Anonymous No.4967903]

>>4967887
Apply the same "draw shadows not outlines" logic to faces.

[Anonymous No.4967917]

Where can I find a link for How to Draw by Scott Robertson?

[Anonymous No.4967926]

>>4967898
all the spoiled shitheads who got to go to art school don't know what its like to not live a dream
you gotta make time, you gotta push yourself, you're not held back by time, class, or whatever shit around you. this is something you want, thats what it means to be a man

[Anonymous No.4967934]

>>4967903
Speaking of, whats the best way to do shadows in photoshop?

[Anonymous No.4967947]

how do i learn to draw in 3d better

[Anonymous No.4967949]

>>4967934
Draw them instead of outlines.

[Anonymous No.4967952]

>>4967917
google scott robertson how to draw pdf

[Anonymous No.4967957]

>>4967949
I meant the type of brush and setting, I recently switch from pencil to digital and I dont know how to digital equivalent hold the brush on the side of the lead and lightly shade it in and rubbing with my finger. I tried airbrushing and it looks cartoony, scribbling doesnt work.
Ive been experimenting with the default hard round brush with pressure sensitivity

[Anonymous No.4967960]

I drew an online buddy. Pretty happy with how it came out. Lots of room for improvement but I feel I'm doing ok.

[Anonymous No.4967964]

>>4967135
im laughing at this... precisely because i have the same issue

[Anonymous No.4967966]

>>4967135
how the fuck is this beg

[Anonymous No.4967975]

will teaching overseas be a good idea if i want to save time to draw

[Anonymous No.4967977]

>>4967960
Youre friends with a nerdy saint?

[Anonymous No.4967993]

>>4967977
I draw a circle when starting my drawing, but I don't know how to loomis properly so my heads end up way smaller than the circle. Instead of erasing I accentuate it for visual pizzazz.

[Anonymous No.4967995]

What's the best program for digital art beginners? I wanna give digital art a shot. I have a small wacom tablet I just need some software. My friend uses firealpaca, is that any good? also what are some good exercises for getting used to the tablet?

[Anonymous No.4968005]

>>4967995
Clip studio paint if your running on a toaster ,Photoshop if you have good processor. Forget the rest.

[Anonymous No.4968043]

Started doing the portrait section from "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain". Is there anything here that sticks out as wrong, or where I could do better.
Had to autolevel it in paint because the lines were too light in the picture.

[Anonymous No.4968052]

>>4968005
Is there any major difference between the who? Or do they both accomplish the same thing just as well

[Anonymous No.4968053]

For Halloween.

[Anonymous No.4968086]

What the hell does being a Crab mean

[Anonymous No.4968088]

>>4968052
major difference is that CSP has build in 3d model for poses, comic panelling, super simple to navigate, can run on the shitties pc and in only $50USD when its not on sale, and photshop is the industry standard for photo editing, and rendering and post production should you get a working crack of the photoshop since it asburdly expensive to earn by legal means. CSP however is becoming more of a PSD killer with every update and already regarded as the better of the two by most people who has used both

[Anonymous No.4968090]

>>4968086
Hands like a crab’s claws so you can’t draw well.

[Anonymous No.4968092]

>>4968086
it comes from the saying "crabs in barrel". crabs can't escape baskets you put them in because they drag eachother down rather than let eachother leave one by one. It gets overused because people assume they are getting bad advice half the time rather than actually testing it out for themselves. (ex. DAB being a /beg/ trap)

[Anonymous No.4968099]

>>4968086
It means talking shit about other people arts to feel better about yourself being null of talent.

[Anonymous No.4968111]

>>4967624
>if you can't do everything flawlessly and consistently you're /beg/
sounds about right

[Anonymous No.4968175]

Been trying to be looser with my work

[Anonymous No.4968185]

>>4967442
Decent, you're getting better at tracing, anon

[Anonymous No.4968199]

>>4968088
photoshop is mainly used for photo editing rather than drawing. I'd assume that Adobe Illustrator would be better suited for drawing, but will photoshop do the job just fine?

[Anonymous No.4968203]

>>4968185
NGMI crab cuck

[Anonymous No.4968208]

>>4968199
Your assumptions are wrong.

[Anonymous No.4968216]

>>4968199
illustration and photoshop is NOTHING alike. illustrator is for graphic art and vector drawings (think logos and commerical art), while photoshop can be used like a traditional drawing program with photo editing built in. Again go with photoshop or CPS
>>4968185
>trace
kek I'll take that as an compliment

[Anonymous No.4968220]

>>4968216
okay thanks. You were more useful than this guy >>4968208

[Anonymous No.4968222]

>>4968185
> tracing
faggot's seething

[Anonymous No.4968227]

>>4968216
>>4968203
>>4968222
Don't know who you think you're fooling, but anyway I don't even care if you traced, I'm not the anons flipping out in the last thread.

[Anonymous No.4968241]

>Radio Silence
kek

[Anonymous No.4968276]

>>4968227
You guessed wrong motherfucker, I draw anime shit and did >>4953764 and this last month >>/ic/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=sept242020&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post
>>/ic/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=Aug+2+b+2020&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post
If you wanted to see more of my work you should've just asked LAMO

[Anonymous No.4968284]

>>4968227
You guessed wrong motherfucker, I draw anime mainly shit and did >>4953764 and these are some older stuff that was archived:
>>/ic/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=sept242020&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

>>/ic/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=Aug+2+b+2020&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

If you wanted to see more of my work you should've just asked LMAO

[Anonymous No.4968285]

>>4967106

[Anonymous No.4968287]

>>4968285

[Anonymous No.4968288]

>>4968287

[Anonymous No.4968290]

>>4968288

[Anonymous No.4968292]

>>4968290

[Anonymous No.4968294]

>>4968292
I wanna do some small animations so this was a practice for trying to draw step by step shit in motion. I know I'm missing frames but I think I got the main key frames.

[Anonymous No.4968300]

>>4968294
>1 mb posts
yeah im not opening those open buddy

[Anonymous No.4968306]

>>4968300
My tablet is so fucking small I have to draw big

[Anonymous No.4968309]

>>4968306
Resize image anon.

[Anonymous No.4968312]

>>4968284
cringe

[Anonymous No.4968314]

>>4968312
Nice come back bro. Gottem good.

[Anonymous No.4968323]

Done!
Was fun to finish!

[Anonymous No.4968325]

>>4968312
>steams crab
>c-cringe

[Anonymous No.4968329]

>>4968323

[Anonymous No.4968337]

>>4968323
the straightness in the limbs makes her feel very mechinical and the grandma heels are just bad. Good job on the render and everything else.

[Anonymous No.4968341]

>>4968337
>>4968329

I'll take it!
Next time ill be better

[Anonymous No.4968343]

>>4968341
>Next time ill be better
Gmi

[Anonymous No.4968379]

>>4968323

Why are you in beg?

[Anonymous No.4968476]

spent alot of time on this one.
hope it's not a polished turd

[Anonymous No.4968479]

>>4968476
it's not very easy on the eyes but i like it

[Anonymous No.4968509]

>>4968476
very reministent of an amano piece, you do good shit

[Anonymous No.4968514]

>>4968476
> Not boring anime girls, normal people studies
I like this, and I can guess why you put the cape in the front like that.

[Anonymous No.4968517]

>>4968323
wip

[Anonymous No.4968521]

:/

[Anonymous No.4968522]

>>4968509
thanks, Yoshitaka Amano and Ayami Kojima are my biggest inspirations
>>4968514
>and I can guess why you put the cape in the front like that.
yeah I'm currently trying to get trunks right and the cape was a good excuse to make it the focal point

[Anonymous No.4968530]

>>4968521
we can't give proper criticism on portraits unless you share reference

[Anonymous No.4968531]

>>4968517
cute. limbs are less stiff but still need work, left hand especially

[Anonymous No.4968540]

How do you clean the eraser droppings? I don't want to dump them on the floor anymore but I also don't want to smudge everything on the paper.

[Anonymous No.4968542]

>>4968540
A brush and a dropping container.

[Anonymous No.4968543]

>>4968540
use a superior kneaded eraser or just vacuum it or snif it

[Anonymous No.4968546]

>>4968540
>>4968542
they're called trashcans anons

[Anonymous No.4968581]

>>4968522

[Anonymous No.4968585]

>>4968581
post lineart/fix only pl0x

[Anonymous No.4968591]

>>4968585
>lineart
meant redline, or blackline in this case i guess

[Anonymous No.4968596]

[Anonymous No.4968597]

>>4968596
thanks.

[Anonymous No.4968598]

Can someone tell me where I am fucking up with trying to render? I blocked in the lights and shadows but its turning out very well.

[Anonymous No.4968599]

>>4968598
not turning out well*

[Anonymous No.4968609]

>>4968598
post ref

[Anonymous No.4968620]

>>4968609

[Anonymous No.4968625]

i think I understand now... I might make it..

[Anonymous No.4968626]

>>4967106
So I have recently wanted to start drawing but i am conflicted on one front

Since i am new to art should I start with pencil and paper or since I have access to a drawing tablet just go on there from the beginning instead of doing the initial drawing stuff irl the on the computer. My tablet is a little old (Wacom intuos 5) and I won't be getting income for another month.

TL:DR
Should I start my drawing journey on a tablet or pencil?

[Anonymous No.4968630]

>>4968626
Id say tablet
You could try both, but tablets are superior even if it feels a little weird at the beginning

[Anonymous No.4968631]

>>4968626
I have the same tablet so you can guess my answer. Remember to cover your tablet with a piece of paper.

[Anonymous No.4968634]

>>4968620
are you trying to work off it in color, or are you swapping it to grayscale and maybe slapping a filter on it to make it easier for yourself to see what the light is doing?

[Anonymous No.4968635]

>>4968630
both ways feel a little weird so I guess tablet

>>4968631
I am a total beg please explain the paper thing. Is it for stopping sweat?

[Anonymous No.4968639]

>>4968635
It helps to protect the surface of the tablet and the nibs from wearing out.

[Anonymous No.4968643]

>>4968639
it is a little used but it seems okish. When I can I will get a less used one (maybe a new one)

[Anonymous No.4968649]

>>4968634
gave it 3 attempts before i realized i was not understanding I tried it in grayscale image but I didn't have anything to turn the contrast way up. i honestly thought the issue was the values and poor attempt to try to mimic a rendering style

[Anonymous No.4968656]

>>4968649
graphicsmagick's equalize is the quick and dirty way i did it. paint dot net is another free option too.

[Anonymous No.4968659]

>>4968626
P.S does anyone have any good resources for learning on tablets as well as good illustration programs

[Anonymous No.4968663]

I have no idea how to do hair. Should i just keep copying things and not worry about details like nailing hair or should i focus on hair?

This is the reference btw: https://static-prod.weplay.tv/2020-06-22/w-2048/webp/fc0d90bb68f2a7ed9ef86dd460ffcd3f_longread_large_cover.1B5157-3DD5DA-469EC3.jpeg

[Anonymous No.4968694]

i think i need to improve my line quality.

[Anonymous No.4968697]

How do i lineart?

[Anonymous No.4968744]

I rarely draw women. This may be the 15th-ish times. Criticism appreciate.

[Anonymous No.4968788]

tried shading and doing something somewhat realistic for the first time
why does she look my mom before she beat the shit out of me as a kid

[Anonymous No.4968798]

will trying to copy an artist work make me a better artist

[Anonymous No.4968801]

>>4968798
If you copy to understand their thought process, get a feel for how lines bend, and to deconstruct their work to learn then yes

[Anonymous No.4968811]

>>4968801
is it frowned upon if i decide to copy an artist style for, maybe even swiping. even if its for anonymous requests

[Anonymous No.4968817]

what are the muscles that I've shaded in purple and light blue?

[Anonymous No.4968819]

>>4968817
The perinium

[Anonymous No.4968853]

>>4968811
Honestly as long as you learn from it and dont monetize it it should be okay. You shouldnt really try to "copy" someones style to say. You can borrow bits or be inspired by it if you wish but outright copying is pretty lame

[Anonymous No.4968859]

>>4968517
why are you in /beg/

[Anonymous No.4968861]

>>4968530
i don't know, lips look kind of shitty

[Anonymous No.4968863]

>>4968853
i just wanted to be sure if comes back to me years later i won't get shit for it
you can probably do that and get away with it with someone super famous, but not sure if its someone you just like but isn't famous

[Anonymous No.4968865]

>>4968053
Spooky

[Anonymous No.4968869]

>>4968859
Because I’ve been drawing for 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.4968904]

>>4968817
It looks like they could be trying to indicate the serratus posterior inf. and the internal obliques, but I’m pretty sure these muscles don’t show on the surface since they’re all covered up by the latissimus dorsi

[Anonymous No.4968921]

>practicing studying porn artists styles
>dick hurts and haven't drawn anything because i keep getting horny

[Anonymous No.4968924]

>>4968921

[Anonymous No.4968978]

>>4968921
one hand on your pencil, one hand on your dick.
whether you're doing porn studies or not.

[Anonymous No.4968982]

>>4968921
No dick pain No art gain. Suck it up.

[Anonymous No.4968991]

>>4968788
Not a red line because I'm a beg too, but these lines show how skewed the face is. All the features should be parallel and not intersect like this.

For the mouth, the bottom of the bottom lip should be halfway from the nose to the chin. Your mouth is too low. Work on getting the eyes lined up right because that's what is most obviously borked to me.

[Anonymous No.4969026]

KtD first mapping exercise that I did yesterday,

[Anonymous No.4969079]

>>4968991
Thanks, I gotta keep working at perspective lines.
Is there a possibility of having some kind of defect that can fuck with your perception? Ive always had problem telling where stuff is you were to ask me to point "right above something "in the like. Ive been told that when i play tabletop games if someone asks me to hold a tape measure or something right above a model (6 or 10 inches above it) I can never get it exactly above the model and im always off by 2-3inches

[Anonymous No.4969090]

>>4968869
Thats not me haha

Actually 2 years...

[Anonymous No.4969142]

>>4969079
That sounds like a depth perception problem, and there's a lot of things that could cause that. Like having a lazy eye, I don't have any sight issues so I don't know more then that. It shouldn't fuck with your perspective drawings unless you're going from life.

For perspective lines you just have to keep them parallel. If you look at most beginners that have started doing construction, there's almost always an eye that's higher then it should be. It's just practice to get it correct without using guidelines. Remember to flip the canvas when placing features to check if somethings off.

[Anonymous No.4969156]

>>4967280
Wait i recognise that Hitler painting

[Anonymous No.4969167]

What do I do if following books/guides is already going badly? Is this normal if you're just starting out? Trying to follow measurements and it just looks wrong

[Anonymous No.4969179]

>>4969167
It's normal to not understand what you're trying to learn at first.
Are you copying the images in the books? If you're copying the images and trying to internalize the reading and it's still wrong, try tracing over the image and see what you're doing wrong. Take notes too, just as you would for a university class to get the info down.

[Anonymous No.4969184]

>>4967434
your lines are pretty good, but your forms not so much, try drawing the cross contour lines.

[Anonymous No.4969187]

>artstyle all over the place
>fuck it let's try something more realistic
>never shaded before
>copy reference
I'm rather happy with how this turned out, but also 100% certain it was through sheer luck. I tried doing the same with a reference of a girl, but the result was a complete and utter dumpster fire.

[Anonymous No.4969189]

>>4969187
How do you shade in photoshop? What brush and settings?

[Anonymous No.4969198]

>>4969189
>>4969189
I honestly have no idea how to do it "properly", I failed to find any tutorials or anything that involves rendering in a traditional style, but digitally. I made a preset of the default hard round brush that has ~70% minimum diameter, I also used the eraser with opacity turned on.

[Anonymous No.4969205]

>>4969179
Well I'm just following measurements, which I thought couldn't be wrong because all you have to do.. Is measure..

[Anonymous No.4969270]

Am I cheating myself by ghosting out the vanishing points in the 250 boxes? Or should I just be trying to guess where the lines meet?

[Anonymous No.4969276]

>>4969270
you're supposed to always be ghosting

[Anonymous No.4969278]

>>4969276
Ah okay. Just feels a bit cheesy if the vp happens to be on the page and I can just mark in where I think it is.

[Anonymous No.4969280]

Newbie here also I am a lefty, does that matter? what are some good lefty artists?

[Anonymous No.4969286]

i fucked up

[Otakuking69 No.4969288]

If you look closely, you can see the rectangular prism at an angle that I used for 3d and perspective. What can I fix?

[Anonymous No.4969289]

>>4969286
yeah lol

[Anonymous No.4969326]

>>4969286
you can't fuck up in digital, you can only give up.

[Anonymous No.4969361]

>>4969026
and some more

[Anonymous No.4969422]

I feel like some things could have been done better

[Anonymous No.4969429]

How to improve on negative space/rendering?
Also what steve huston lectures should I watch and where can I find them? Anyone got a magnet?

[Anonymous No.4969465]

RATE MY WOJAK

[Anonymous No.4969468]

>>4969429
Take the drawing and move it in front of you so that its between the subject and you then notice the changes

[Anonymous No.4969471]

>>4969468
So prop it up on something
I also never finished drawing on the right side of the brain. Is it worth it? I did the first few exercises up to the one where you draw through a door to show perspective but I got bored.

[Anonymous No.4969475]

>>4969361
make sure your vanishing points converge away from you

[Anonymous No.4969477]

>>4969465
only a symbol drawer can draw a wojack

[Doge No.4969513]

So this is a quick 10 minute sketch I did. How is it? Did I mess up on the shading too badly?

[Anonymous No.4969515]

>>4969513
I'd tell you to go back to /beg/, but since we are already here and there aren't threads for lower skill levels, i don't know what to tell you

[Doge No.4969521]

>>4969515
I just started trying to draw actually Human like structures, and just started trying to shade without color and sketch so F off :)

[Anonymous No.4969522]

i keep watching proko vids on anatomy but he goes into so much detail i don't know where to start or what to do to begin with.

[Anonymous No.4969523]

>>4969521
fuck off, this board doesnt need any more 12 year old faggots

[Anonymous No.4969524]

Another attempt to do KJG/Terada style
I better be study something but only thing i do is this shit sketches

[Doge No.4969526]

>>4969523
I’m not 12 I’m 19 thank you :)

[Anonymous No.4969535]

bump

[Anonymous No.4969538]

Here are some arms I hope it's ok.

[Anonymous No.4969539]

>>4969513
Needs more loomis fun with a pencil

[Anonymous No.4969544]

>>4969521
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.4969547]

>>4969513
>>4969521
>>4969526
Masterful b8

[Anonymous No.4969548]

>>4969513
oh boy

[Doge No.4969552]

>>4969544
No you bitch, I will never fall till I die of age :)

[Doge No.4969554]

>>4969547
Well ya see Imma not cause I’m not a coomer like ya.

[Anonymous No.4969556]

>>4969552

[Doge No.4969558]

>>4969548
What is wrong? Are u another hater which comes to a thread which is made for beginners or people who need help with there art? If you are this thread really isn’t for you so run along now if so.

[Anonymous No.4969560]

>>4969558
no im waiting for an aswer to >>4969522

[Doge No.4969561]

>>4969556
You say as my death will be either of age or because I’m white and fighting for black lives. Nice try bish :)

[Doge No.4969563]

>>4969560
Good for you, do ya want a cookie?

[Anonymous No.4969564]

>>4969561
the fuck you talking about?

[Anonymous No.4969566]

>>4969563
yeah

[Doge No.4969571]

>>4969564
How the economy is slowly falling down because of whites disrespecting people of color, and how global warming will end us, and how we are slowly being fried by the sun, and how a sickness from a bat may kill the people left over from corona.

[Anonymous No.4969575]

>>4969571

[Doge No.4969576]

>>4969566
Here ya go bud :)

[Doge No.4969578]

>>4969575
Use your words.

[Anonymous No.4969579]

>>4969578

[Anonymous No.4969582]

>>4968659
bump

[Doge No.4969587]

>>4969579
Are you just now realizing us humans are dirty rats who are hurting the world and eventually the next generations will die?

[Anonymous No.4969593]

>>4969587
yes goyom kill yourself there is no hope it's all white supremacists there ruining the planet

[Anonymous No.4969595]

>>4969522
for fuck sake i just want some fucking advice.

[Doge No.4969603]

>>4969593
Why are you a hunchback? Did you break your back? Are you Smithers cousin from the simpsons? Kinda looks like you are, and honestly I’m not killing myself because I have hope in the world unlike someone I’m talking too rn :)

[Anonymous No.4969611]

>>4969603

[Anonymous No.4969614]

>>4969603
that's discrimination against hunchback

[Anonymous No.4969617]

this is a thread for art not for race and politics. Stop shitting up the thread

[Anonymous No.4969618]

>>4969571
Epic bait
This man has gone above and beyond the call of duty.
He even drew this shit >>4969513

[Doge No.4969620]

>>4969611
What I say isn’t bait. I’m just defending myself.

[Doge No.4969622]

>>4969614
I said it a hunchback which was telling me to kill myself. I roasted him, and wasn’t pointing it to all hunchbacks-

[Doge No.4969623]

>>4969618
Sorry I watch the news and do quick sketch’s dude.

[Doge No.4969624]

>>4969617
Uhh who ya talking to dude.

[Anonymous No.4969625]

>>4969622
by making fun of physical characteristics you are indirectly insulting all hunchbacks and so discrimination and don't assume my gender.

[Doge No.4969627]

>>4969625
Well sorry. Jesus I see why people say 4chan is trash, because all of these god damn haters which follow you around-

[Anonymous No.4969644]

>>4969627

[Anonymous No.4969690]

>>4967898
me too, wish I had spend more time learning, anything really, instead of mindless watching tv all day. but I forgive my past self, I was just dumb and young and didn't know better. at least it taught me to value my time. death is coming.

[Anonymous No.4969705]

>>4967960
nice one, the nose is weird tho

[Anonymous No.4969712]

Why do my faces look so souless? Not even meme buzzwords, they look like husks.
Im doing loomis, and im checking reference for eyes and shading, but it still looks weird. I know its mainly the eyes but I cant tell. Is my right eye too big? are they angled wrong? oddly spaced?
please help

[Anonymous No.4969721]

it's bait don't reply to him

[Anonymous No.4969739]

>>4969712
Read the sticky

[Doge No.4969742]

>>4969644
Never been there, never will.

[Anonymous No.4969746]

>>4967106

[Doge No.4969747]

>>4969721
What is bait?

[Anonymous No.4969748]

>>4969746
MSpaint

[Anonymous No.4969752]

>>4969739
I did, and im still making mistakes and i dont know why. Cmon, dont be a dick

[Anonymous No.4969755]

>>4969712
your proportions are fucked and you make it seem like its decals of a face on a manequin and not a face with depth.
shad it a bit and ad eye sockets, cheekbones, wrinkles etc.with lighting.

[Anonymous No.4969758]

>>4969755
thanks

[Anonymous No.4969763]

pretty shitty one desu, left it too late

[Anonymous No.4969765]

>>4969758
i dont draw well at all here is how i draw in like a couple minutes
Dude looks like a cartoon monster

[Anonymous No.4969767]

>>4969712
You are still drawing with symbols

[Anonymous No.4969771]

[Anonymous No.4969776]

>tfw all the human figures I draw from the imagination look like children
I don't accept your gift satan go find some other guy

[Anonymous No.4969779]

>>4969767
So am I just retarded? Even if I copy a reference I still somehow turn it into a symbol. Is this just a time thing?

[Anonymous No.4969785]

>>4969779
it will click once you've done enough observational studies. draw some glass containers with liquid inside, I think it's one of the better exercises for observational drawing.

[Anonymous No.4969794]

>>4969779
What are you drawing for? Fun or earning money?

[Anonymous No.4969817]

jesus fuck how do you cope with being a beg, people just say '' just study more'' but the more i learn the more i can see how shitty my drawings are why can i just have fun with a... pencil...

[Anonymous No.4969826]

>>4969794
For fun. I work as a nurse and I dont think drawing could make me as much money as my current job. I wanna draw cute girls, fantasy art, and maybe shortstacks and have people like them

[Anonymous No.4969943]

>>4968904
>serratus posterior
thank you

[Anonymous No.4969947]

taking a break from this but i'll try shading more. i know the eyes are too big but w/e i don't hate it so far.

[Anonymous No.4969955]

>feel like garbage, 100% in the valley of despair
>lean back in my chair looking at the ceiling
>think of how much better i'll be in a year if I just keep at it
>go back to sucking

Don't give up anons

[Anonymous No.4969975]

>>4969955
>go back to sucking

what did anon mean by this /beg/ bros

[Anonymous No.4969983]

Did this while drunk a few days ago. I only started drawing seriously about a month ago. Please be kind

[Anonymous No.4969987]

Should I work with airbrush to reach this aesthetic?

Good books?

[Anonymous No.4969991]

>>4969987
pastels

[Anonymous No.4969998]

>>4969817
literally just draw

[Anonymous No.4970007]

>>4969817
Just look back at your very old ass work and compare it to today
>more i learn the more i can see how shitty my drawings
Anon thats helpful to you

[Anonymous No.4970033]

>>4968663
I am gonna steal your OC anon
>>4968697
You did the line art. Why ask?

[Anonymous No.4970041]

Last nite I took some acid and started to draw how I see the world on the comeup. Today, after getting extensively drunk the experience still lingered on so I started to finish the drawing from yesterday. This how it looks.
I know the anatomy is fucked I drew it drunk without a reference. The interesting thing is the parts I started on acid were surprisingly accurate, although I could not continue this level of focus for today.


P.S. The woman probabily represents my longing for love from a women I will never touch.

[Anonymous No.4970045]

quick question, when drawing the rough sketch do I put the body and clothes on the same layer?
Is it better to put them on seperate layers?

[Anonymous No.4970057]

>>4968596
puts?

[Anonymous No.4970076]

I'm trying to understand inclines in perspective. What do they look like in 3 point perspective? I tried to rotate this box about the lower left line to creat an incline, but when I trace the parallels to their vanishing point, the right vanishing point is above the first horizon line I drew, and the vertical vanishing point shifts to the right. I assume means that the horizon has tilted but this is not what I want.

[Anonymous No.4970153]

>>4970045
I really like your stuff

[Anonymous No.4970157]

Tried drawing something without sketching or reference, with a time limit of 5 mins. Here is the result.

I like giving myself little challenges to keep me motivated.

[Anonymous No.4970164]

>>4970045
I have a question for you, what resources did you use learning to draw?

[Anonymous No.4970168]

I'm so fucking artsy right now

[Anonymous No.4970175]

>>4970168
I like it

[Anonymous No.4970177]

>>4970168
How long have you been here?

[Anonymous No.4970181]

>>4970177
2 years I think, yeh, since August 2018.
Could be much better for that much time but I find studies boring so I go back to drawing my own stuff.
I've been drawing Astra nonstop since March 2020 though.

[Anonymous No.4970182]

>>4970164
I tried loomis, hampton and even proko but none of them seemed to work.
I picked up manga tutorial's anatomy guides and it really boosted my skill level.
They give different body parts in varying angles, teach muscle and bones, give advice beginners.
Also I copy different artists.

[Anonymous No.4970188]

>>4970182
Which tutorials did you use? Just stuff on youtube?

[Anonymous No.4970190]

>>4970181
I've been lurking here for a year or so. Saw a lot of people left the thread. I just want to say that I admire your conviction.

[Anonymous No.4970193]

Man my drapery and folding really needs fucking work.

[Anonymous No.4970202]

>>4970188
It was this zip file somebody posted on /asg/, it's got stuff like this.

[Anonymous No.4970204]

>>4970190
Thanks, it's not like I plan on quitting drawing any life soon so I just post them here.
Acknowledging myself as an eternal beginner also keeps my ego in check so I don't get too comfortable with my level.

Also talking about conviction, that Asuka anon graduated in like 3 or 4 months of pure focused painting-with-references so I'd say that's a good hack for anyone trying to get good fast no matter the method (he might have also had a lot of talent to begin with though)

[Anonymous No.4970206]

>>4970202
I'll check it out, I see you post here a lot and I like your stuff a lot. Keep it up, I hope I can catch up to you.

[Anonymous No.4970212]

>>4970202
Is it in the general or just some random thing a guy posted.

[Anonymous No.4970215]

>>4970182
Ever tried Vilppu? Hampton is pretty much Vilppu on crack, so I'm surprised he didn't work for you, but maybe Vilppu himself might help.

[Anonymous No.4970220]

>>4970181
what have you been doing to improve? and don't say just draw

[Anonymous No.4970226]

I tried to do shading finish but their still is alot I seem to not understand.

[Anonymous No.4970248]

>>4970220
I dunno at what skill level you're at but I've got it all covered. You're not gonna like this mate, but it's a bit of "just draw". Though it has more to it.
I was the resident paintfag of some /a/ threads during 2017 to 2018 and I made A LOT of "joke comics" on paint.. but I took them seriously enough that I was trying to think of new poses and looking at the characters as reference.
And how to manipulate said characters to turn them around or give them adult designs for example. A lot of brain-work was done with these silly paint comics.

Officially trying to draw seriously in August, it was pages upon pages of my notebook filled with ""gestures"" (I just copied the silhouette of people from pictures), then... I did read and got help from redlines and different anons here.
Actually a lot of anons did the studying for me. Even in this year some of my drawings were way uglier before some anon corrected them for me. Then there's Proko videos, digital coloring videos, understanding light, google references and trying to get inspired by someone's style (it's ok to be drawing while looking at someone's art and trying to "get right" the way they draw some things, just don't copy the whole piece).
Some attempts at hatching for example, yeah, if you start trying to hatch/shade you'll start thinking in 3D even if it's really ugly at first...
My first "Good" drawing was pausing Monster Hunter and drawing my Armored Knight in paper, carefully hatching it, little by little all of the reflections... I got it mostly right I think. Put yourself some challenge like that and draw something semi-realistic, for example a Berserk manga page or something similar.

Also for a while I drew EVERY day so I'm obliged to say it's mostly that. Not every drawing I did was post-worthy in fact I didn't even take pictures of some because they were just bad, and if I were to pick up a pencil right now and a piece of paper I'd probably draw something shitty. You need an idea first.

[Anonymous No.4970253]

>>4970212
random thing a guy posted, you can try asking.

[Anonymous No.4970257]

>>4970248
Also here's my "Conversion" technique in action, you might find it useful. Take a concept or pose or whatever you like and "convert it" into a different piece.

[Anonymous No.4970259]

>>4970257
In the end I deviated a lot but that was the idea

[Anonymous No.4970262]

>>4970248
>I dunno at what skill level you're at but I've got it all covered. You're not gonna like this mate, but it's a bit of "just draw". Though it has more to it.
i know just draw has truth in it. i draw everyday, but if you draw the wrong thing everyday, it can still mean you won't improve
but thank you for this post, helps me know i'm going in the right direction. a lot of what i've been doing for the last two weeks was just gestures. right now i'm trying to focus on nailing box forms decently

i don't think i could get anons to do MOST of the studying for me. its honestly hard enough to get my art friends to crit me (perhaps i'm hopeless in their eyes)
>>4970259
this is good, but will be hard to really find good stuff to mix

[Anonymous No.4970264]

>>4970262
I did start with boxes alongside the gestures so that's nice, I had forgotten.
But I transitioned quickly into trying to draw humans from pictures or characters, it was really bad though but people can usually offer better critique about it, for example it's easy to pinpoint that the elbow is supposed to be around the end of the ribcage or that an arm down reaches up until the mid-thigh. Stuff like that can be identified and told so the knowledge sticks with you, one mistake at a time.

But get comfortable with the mere act of drawing first, yeah, boxes are fine.

[Anonymous No.4970268]

>>4970264
>But I transitioned quickly into trying to draw humans from pictures or characters
i try doing a mix of that, by box forms i meant the human figure turned into boxes. i'm passed drawing boxes in empty pace so i can get an understanding of the figure better

i really just want to get the most of the education. i'm on no deadline, but sooner than later is whats ideal

[Anonymous No.4970272]

>>4970259
what was the ref for that pose

[Anonymous No.4970279]

>>4970272
The redhead from this picture >>4970257
. To be fair I only used the readhead as a guide because the angle I wanted was weird and I wasn't sure how would the legs/torso look, and I changed the arms.

But the idea remains, girl in... that angle, holding a card, yeah it's a reference alright.

[Anonymous No.4970323]

>>4969779
Start with Keys to Drawing

[Anonymous No.4970325]

KUUUUUUUUUBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.4970338]

Sup niggas I got an iPad check dis shit out what u think HMU wither thoughts

[Anonymous No.4970340]

>>4970338
And liquify really does feel like cheating

[Anonymous No.4970350]

>>4970215
I tired both, I can't seem to get the hand of it.

[Anonymous No.4970351]

Can somebody link vilpu?
People keep talking about him but I don't know what to watch or read.

[Anonymous No.4970353]

new

>>4970352
>>4970352
>>4970352

[Anonymous No.4970558]

>>4970041
poopa

[Anonymous No.4970565]

>>4970338
Where did you get that reference?

[Anonymous No.4972245]

>>4970045
what do you lose for separating them?
it takes no time at all and could prove handy in the future when cleaning the linework, to keep the anatomy in check or something. there are zero cons