/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.4963935]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0
https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

Previous Thread:
>>4952223

[Anonymous No.4963951]

Anime is for babies

[Anonymous No.4963956]

Anime is for coomers and sodomites.

[Anonymous No.4963963]

sex

[Anonymous No.4963968]

>anime study

[Anonymous No.4963983]

I like this general. I got decent at drawing by looking at and copying the artists behind my fav weeb shit.

[Anonymous No.4963992]

>>4963983
Sincerely doubt that, try drawing from imagination to see if you've retained any of that crap you thought you were studying.

[Anonymous No.4964003]

>>4963992
not the op but referencing helps
don't rely too much but helps

[Anonymous No.4964009]

>>4964003
The only reference that would ever help you is from a real model. Everything else is done by experimentation after you've immersed yourself in the style and you've all clearly immersed yourselves well enough to draw without having to copy.

[Anonymous No.4964010]

>>4963992
I'm definitely cherry picking, but this is the best stuff I've done recently. I just think it's important to try to copy the artists you like, and this thread reminds me of that.

[Anonymous No.4964023]

>>4964010
Great, you're a human xerox machine well done.

[Anonymous No.4964029]

>>4964023
And your rudeness isn't doing much to convince me. These are my characters from my imagination. Are you saying my imagination and all art is ultimately derivative? Well, maybe, but I think an individual makes it his or her own. They add flavor to something that wasn't there before.

[Anonymous No.4964047]

>>4964029
Great, you're well on your way on becoming an uninspired copycat and a shadow of the literally who you've been mimicking I congratulate you.

[Anonymous No.4964048]

>>4964023
Show me what you've created. I'll show you more of my stuff.

[Anonymous No.4964063]

>>4964047
Thanks, I'll do my best, and you should too.

[Anonymous No.4964231]

>>4964023
>>4964047
peak seethe.

[Anonymous No.4964322]

>>4963935

[Anonymous No.4964357]

>>4964047
go draw bro...

[Anonymous No.4964376]

>>4964322
OH MY FUCKING GOD!!???!??!%%^}€€{€]€~€} AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.4964402]

>>4964376
i'm sorry?

[Anonymous No.4964406]

>>4964322
oh yes im gonna fucking coooooOoooooOOOOOOMMMMMMMM AHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.4964410]

>>4964406
anon no!

[Anonymous No.4964413]

>>4964322
IS THIS A...

[Anonymous No.4964417]

>>4964413
anon please, you're scaring me

[COOMER No.4964453]

>>4964322
HOLY SHIT!!!!

[Anonymous No.4964455]

>>4964322
Oh god here we go again!

[Anonymous No.4964614]

>>4964047
Haha what even is this cope.
His art isn’t amazing or anything, but come on...

[Anonymous No.4964656]

I havent kept up with TPN but heres my Emma

[Anonymous No.4964661]

Has greysketch tranny contributed anything substansial to the thread or does he still keep posting his horrible sketches?

[Anonymous No.4964730]

@4964413
@4964453
@4963956
You need to stop retard

[Anonymous No.4964733]

>>4964730
Remember, November is cooming
the flood of coom will overtake /ic/ by surprise

[Anonymous No.4964740]

>>4964453
>>4964455
are you being ironic or is my work actually coom worthy

[Anonymous No.4964871]

Feels like I'm not retaining anything from animu studies to apply to my own work except face proportions.
Anything involving colors/values or shading isn't getting any better or appealing.

[Anonymous No.4964898]

>>4964010
I think your line work is nice and it's very cute overall. I like it a lot, keep up the good work anon.

[Anonymous No.4965106]

[Anonymous No.4965136]

>>4963951
>>4963956
>>4963968
>>4964009
>>4964047
>>4964023
>>4964406
>>4964413
>>4964453
This is peak autism.

[Anonymous No.4965146]

>>4965136
/ngmi/- NGMI general

[Anonymous No.4965255]

>>4965106
The forearms lack some shape and I feel like they should stick out a bit more even when folded like that. Otherwise it's looking pretty good.

[Anonymous No.4965261]

>>4964023
SEETHING

[Anonymous No.4965268]

Does amano count as anime style?

Anybody know where you can find large mix media boards that aren’t so expensive?

[Anonymous No.4965275]

>>4964047
You just know this is written by some sassy dyke with her arms crossed making a grimace

[Anonymous No.4965282]

Did this for a friend

[Anonymous No.4965284]

>>4965282
ex-friend*

[Anonymous No.4965286]

>>4964048
someone liked eizouken huh

[Anonymous No.4965291]

>>4965268
anime isnt a style

[Anonymous No.4965293]

>>4965282
Huh
Huhah
Hahahahahah
Hhhahhhahahahhahhahahahahaah
huh...
Cooming...
Time...

[Anonymous No.4965295]

>>4965293
shut up your not funny

[Anonymous No.4965296]

>>4965295
Saw the reflection of yourself

[Anonymous No.4965299]

>>4965296
I only saw a retarded overused unfunny maymay

[Anonymous No.4965302]

How do I know when I’m supposed to post I’m the anime, beg or sexual General

[Anonymous No.4965305]

How do I know when I’m supposed to post in the anime, beg or sexual general

[Anonymous No.4965306]

>>4965302
Hello the anime, beg or sexual General, you can post whenever.

[Anonymous No.4965312]

>>4965146
Talking about yourself there, huh? We all know that you'll never make it. Keep crying faggot.

[Anonymous No.4965316]

>>4964023
CRAB
R
A
B

[Anonymous No.4965329]

>>4965291
You know what I mean jack ass, the style of Japanese animation studios

[Anonymous No.4965356]

>>4965329
Are you making animation? If not it's not "anime" retard

[Anonymous No.4965378]

>>4963992
>>4964009
ngmi

[Anonymous No.4965401]

>>4964740
these coomers cant see past tits and thighs

you need to fix the head shape friendo

[Anonymous No.4965404]

[Anonymous No.4965410]

>>4965404
You drew her very far away from him

[Anonymous No.4966087]

Serious question how do I start am a retard, do I just copy screenshots or what

[Anonymous No.4966095]

>>4966087
study your fundies, ana5omy books,forms , construction etc... then you go about learning to animu

[Anonymous No.4966100]

>>4965401
how?

[Anonymous No.4966103]

>>4965282
I am that friend :)

[Anonymous No.4966108]

>>4966100
For starters the location of the ear, not to mention she is missing her cranium you may imply form by adding more volume for the hair but your main issue involves the proportion of the face you gave her a long face. By moving features down you may be able to correct the general shape of the head.

[Anonymous No.4966112]

>>4966087
>>4966095
Do everything this guy said, but also have fun with it if you want it to be a hobby. You know what I'm saying when I say fun. The best stuff you do is when you're not over-thinking it, where drawing from imagination isn't difficult. Do fun stuff to start, like heads and expressions. Maybe just do that for a while, work on getting eyes right. Do a couple decent IRL heads, then try referencing abstractions you like. Loomis has good books for learning heads. You can prob find pdf online for free.
>>4965404
You're doing too much. Just do a Ritsu.

[Anonymous No.4966119]

>>4966108
like this?

[Anonymous No.4966125]

>>4966119
You're actually listening? Deleted the post since I honestly believed it would fall on deaf ears after realizing what thread I was posting under but good work. A piece of advice - leave this thread.

[Anonymous No.4966127]

>>4963935

[Anonymous No.4966133]

>>4966125
thanks, where should I go then

[Anonymous No.4966141]

>>4966133
Good fucking question. When you find a place that isn't filled with faggots like from this board don't tell anyone.

[Anonymous No.4966146]

>>4966127
Wow, your art looked so different I almost couldn't tell it was you.

[Anonymous No.4966579]

Are there any good colouring tutorials? specifically for clothes but I'd take hair or skin too. I feel like my colouring is slowly getting better but I've hit a wall and want to figure out how to go from where I am now to good shit.

[Anonymous No.4966580]

>>4966579
you mean rendering?

[Anonymous No.4966585]

>>4966580
Probably, not really up on art lingo.

[Anonymous No.4966587]

>>4966585
coloring is just choosing the color, rendering is the texture, shadows light

[Anonymous No.4966588]

>>4966587
Yeah I mean rendering then, though now I know what the actual term is finding a good tutorial might not be so hard, thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.4966592]

>>4966588
airbrush and lasso can be helpful

[Anonymous No.4966755]

>>4966125
Fuck off back to redit

[Anonymous No.4966986]

>>4965282
booba

[Anonymous No.4967003]

[Anonymous No.4967058]

>>4967003
Not bad but her torso needs to face more forward, for this pose her shoulders should be parallel to the rail. Also keep in mind where the neck connects to the head, it should connect to the base of the skull, an easy way to pin point this is having it come from behind the ear.

[Anonymous No.4967991]

>The year is 2020.
>People are more indoors than ever.
>The video side of "how to draw anime" is still as barren as it was 5 years ago.

[Anonymous No.4968040]

>>4965282

[Anonymous No.4968131]

Any tips for making this Apple Pie better?
Perspective, anatomy, etc.?

[Anonymous No.4968135]

>>4968131
Did you draw that?

[Anonymous No.4968137]

>>4968135
Yes, this is my artwork.

[Anonymous No.4968138]

>>4968137
Gmi

[Anonymous No.4968139]

>>4968131
Anon that's not apples, is obvious is qt pie.

[Anonymous No.4968178]

>>4966592
Always blows my mind they do this with only 5 colors.

[Anonymous No.4968184]

>>4968131
between the melty background and this kind of rolling angle, it makes me a bit seasick to be honest.

[Anonymous No.4968190]

>>4968131
How do i learn colors anon
I'm fading away..

[Anonymous No.4968818]

[Anonymous No.4968866]

>>4968131
Need more straights. It's too floppy. You should've spent more time on the initial sketch before coloring. It's going to be a hassle to fix it now.
Good otherwise.

[Anonymous No.4968932]

>>4968131
Perspective on her is a bit wonky in conjunction with the stairs. Either adjust her upper body to be more upright or the legs need to be turned a bit to not make her look like she's falling over. I kind of get that you're going for a stepping forward kind of motion but it makes her look tipsy instead. Great angle and rendering though. Feels like a photo.

[Anonymous No.4968934]

>>4966095
i've watched many hours of videos and read a whole lot of books on fundies, figure drawing, and anatomy but i still can't draw any of it as its presented as theory, i assume you only get good at something through sheer grinding of it but i'm retarded and need to be given direct instructions for homework to grind which 95% doesn't do, likely as the grind is supposed to be done in a school and not being self taught

[Anonymous No.4969112]

Where do I get dynamic poses from?
Is there a collection?

[Anonymous No.4969131]

>>4969112
from your imagination

[Anonymous No.4969150]

>>4969131
I have none

[Anonymous No.4969196]

Been working on this. It's still rough and uncolored.
Thoughts? I'll appreciate any criticism.

[Anonymous No.4969207]

I've seen japanese artists on twitter have this digital art style. Its kinda like a rough sketch then the layer with paint. does anyone know or have any means of interpreting this style's process. I have CSP and brushes that kind of mimic the brushes used. They aren't perfect but the colors are nice and the strokes can be seen with very little blending.
1/2

[Anonymous No.4969211]

>>4969207
This another one by the same artist (https://twitter.com/yukiyuki_mnw/media))
I find the colors and layering pleasing.
2/2

[Anonymous No.4969223]

>>4969112
3d models, real life posable dolls, pose collection books, you and a camera

[Anonymous No.4969224]

I tried doing that thing Marco bucchi recommends, where you put a monochrome filter over your work and shade that way so you can’t focus on the hues you’re selecting, and you just work with values temporarily. I’m still finishing up the clothes

Anyway any meaningful advice for anything in it? I had trouble mostly with the face and the back of her head/neck. I think I’ll liquify it’s in a bit or paint over it when I can figure it out

[Anonymous No.4969229]

>ts kinda like a rough sketch then the layer with paint.
Pretty much, I think I've seen some similar pictures going rough sketch>colors under that>clean up sketch and paint over it, adding lineart back last.

[Anonymous No.4969236]

>>4969207
>>4969211
I’m sure this is a result of the artist knowing their fundamentals involving digitally painting and drawing, so they’re just able to take shortcuts to get that end result. Basically you learn to do more complete drawings and then you work backwards when you start feeling comfortable

[Anonymous No.4969252]

>>4969196
Miku(?) at the bottom makes me feel like the big girl should be drawn like the viewer is looking up at her.

[Anonymous No.4969262]

Niggas tell me to read loomis but his book is full of old cartoon people how is that gonna help me draw anime

[Anonymous No.4969267]

>>4969262
lol

[Anonymous No.4969271]

>>4969224
you need more layers, that's what the pros do

[Anonymous No.4969277]

>>4969262
So did you practice from it?
>>4969271
Not sure if you’re trying to throw shade at me for that, but I did it so the colors can easily be edited because I’m experimenting

[Anonymous No.4969301]

>>4969252
I get what you mean. I'd need to redo the whole thing for that though and use better perspective like pic related I think.
It's Miku yup. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.4969308]

>>4969301
A low angel anime pose is hard to pull off especially for a beg

[Anonymous No.4969312]

>>4969308
I am indeed quite beg.

[Anonymous No.4969318]

>>4969236
I see. This kind of reminds of Sui Ishida's transition during the Tokyo Ghoul to :re era. Despite early works, Ishida, began to make his art look less complicated and as you said "work backwards" on their art they posted on twitter because of how comfortable. Thank you for your insight on the subject.

[Anonymous No.4969356]

>>4968866
Can you elaborate on this a little more please, and use pictures?

[Anonymous No.4969457]

>>4967003
she just needs more meat

[Anonymous No.4969487]

>>4969457
Ew

[Anonymous No.4969525]

I'm finally done studying Doppel's style on drawing people, in the next few weeks I'll be doing several full body drawings of my own to make sure the style sticks.

[Anonymous No.4969528]

>>4969525
Funny enough it'll be the first full body drawings I've done in at least 5 months, I've grown complacent in these studies by drawing body parts over and over, but I believe I can get the rust off.

[Anonymous No.4969674]

>>4969277
>So did you practice from it?
yeah but i wanna draw my animu

[Anonymous No.4969884]

>>4969224

[Anonymous No.4970117]

>>4969884
imagine going on an anime thread and complaining about sexualization

[Anonymous No.4970126]

[Anonymous No.4970183]

>>4964010
There's life in them, at least.

[Anonymous No.4970186]

not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I reinstalled CSP after sometime and I don't recall this happening before with my brushes, anyone know how to fix this? if you can't tell, the color isn't blending together you can see the paint brush "circles"

[Anonymous No.4970200]

>>4970186
its the same for me

[Anonymous No.4970203]

>>4970200
so just a high dpi/res thing then? It's less noticable on sai but I think sai has better coloring or something

[Anonymous No.4970207]

>>4970203
To be honest I don't really use that brush

[Anonymous No.4970208]

please critique

[Anonymous No.4970213]

>>4970208
She looks like she's on drugs

[Anonymous No.4970225]

>>4970208
nice bulge

[Anonymous No.4970231]

>>4970186
increase density

[Anonymous No.4970232]

>>4970231
at 100 already

[Anonymous No.4970234]

>>4970208
looks like she shit her shorts

I understand you wanted to draw her bussy but you shouldnt be able to see it from this angle

[Anonymous No.4970235]

>>4970232
This setting I mean

Im used to photoshop not sure what different things are called in CSP.

[Anonymous No.4970237]

>>4970235
fuckng based anon thanks that helped

[Anonymous No.4970251]

>>4970235
wtf why isn't this default

[Anonymous No.4970258]

>>4970234
>>4970225
better?

[Anonymous No.4970266]

>>4970258
fix your derp eyes and the perspective seems a bit off, the legs are a bit off but its like 4 am so I'm tired and lazy to fix it

[Anonymous No.4970275]

>>4970258
>no more puffy vulva
dropped

[Anonymous No.4970276]

>>4970208
OH GOD HERE WE GO AGAIN AHHHHH

[Anonymous No.4970333]

>>4970266
thank you

[Anonymous No.4970347]

>>4963935
/asg and /lsg the same thing now. Might as well merge at this point.

[Anonymous No.4970546]

thoughts? (please no coom posting)

[Anonymous No.4970548]

>>4970546
IM GONNA RAPE HER IN THE NAME OF WOTAN

[Anonymous No.4970551]

>>4970546
>guys please don’t coom to my coomer art xoxo

[Anonymous No.4970554]

>>4970551
cooming and coom posting is very different

[Anonymous No.4970556]

>>4970546

[Anonymous No.4970579]

>>4970554
>Implying we don't coom

[Anonymous No.4970585]

>>4970546

[Anonymous No.4970602]

>>4970546
Feels a bit washed out, maybe more dark shadows more would help. Boob and crotch shadow look good.
It's really clean and nice to look at overall.

[Anonymous No.4970608]

>>4970602
alright thanks!

[Anonymous No.4970611]

>>4970608
DRAW. COOM.

[Anonymous No.4970614]

>>4970611
please stop

[Anonymous No.4970619]

>>4970614
Just stop drawing coom anon

[Anonymous No.4970625]

>>4970619
no

[Anonymous No.4970636]

>>4970625
>no

[Anonymous No.4970637]

>>4970636
name one reason why drawing half naked girls is bad

[Anonymous No.4970715]

>>4963956
Then go shove it up yur ass, Fagget.

[Anonymous No.4970726]

>>4970546

[Anonymous No.4970786]

>>4966087
copy everything you love. take some time observing the art you love and ask yourself how the artist did it, why you like it, and copy some more. you will get better. good luck anon :)

[Anonymous No.4970789]

Any guide/book/etc on how to get this sort of simultaneously extremely overexposed but with lots of hard black shadows? It cant just be reading color and light then replacing all the medium shadows with hard shadows, right

[Anonymous No.4970814]

why can't you fags draw anything cool
learn to draw a tree or something it opens up tons of new compositions to use

[Anonymous No.4970877]

>>4970814
pyw or stfu

[Anonymous No.4970879]

>>4970814
What did you draw recently

[Anonymous No.4970883]

>>4970789
just literally draw a bunch of black shadows and when you're coloring use very bright colors wtf

[Anonymous No.4970889]

>>4970877
Let him have his trees. I'm sure they'll bring in loads of followers lol

[Anonymous No.4970896]

>>4969674
>>4969262
help this is boring

[Anonymous No.4970899]

>>4970896
a day has passed
isn't those potato nigga heads literally like the first page
what are you doing

[Anonymous No.4970909]

>>4970899
Those took me several hours each

[Anonymous No.4970912]

>>4970909
no fucking way

[Anonymous No.4970916]

>>4970909
shut up!!!!
>>4970899
>>4970912
Those are from yesterday, I finished part 1 and went to sleep. I skimmed throught the book today and I don't feel like doing it

[Anonymous No.4970917]

>>4970916
your loss

[Anonymous No.4970918]

>>4970917
Ok, i'm gonna do it but please tell me how this will help me with anime

[Anonymous No.4970921]

>>4970918
anatomy

[Anonymous No.4970948]

>>4970579
fucking BASED

[Anonymous No.4970951]

Tied with /dad/ for most worthless general
name anyone who made it drawing animu lol

[Anonymous No.4970965]

>>4970951
every successful anime artist

[Anonymous No.4970980]

>>4970951
Every good “anime” artist
Next question shitposter kun

[Anonymous No.4970997]

>>4970965
>>4970980
I should have specified. Has anyone from this general or /ic/ made it drawing animu? No? Thought so. 178 replies and only one worthwhile image and it's still a shitpost.

[Anonymous No.4971000]

>>4970997
If you lurked more than a few hours you’d know the answer is yes

[Anonymous No.4971001]

>>4971000
Name one. I've been here for 3 years.

[Anonymous No.4971002]

>>4971000
He's probably lurked a few years and is just bitter because he bitched out

[Anonymous No.4971005]

>>4970951
pyw

[Anonymous No.4971007]

>>4971001
>>4971002
WOW. HUH.

[Anonymous No.4971009]

>>4971001
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
>I’ve been here for 3 years
KEK

[Anonymous No.4971010]

>won't answer the question
Truly worthless. Whatever, chinks will outnumber and outperform you guys in every way

[Anonymous No.4971012]

>>4971010
Snib snab

[Anonymous No.4971071]

I want to draw anime porn but my female drawings look too 3D because I studied a lot of normie stuff back in the days. It's my first time drawing on tablet so help me, what do I need to practice to get real good, so I'll be able to get commissions and money.

[Anonymous No.4971110]

>>4971071
everything to be honest

[Anonymous No.4971125]

>>4971110
okay, I can read and understand Japanese and English, any sources to study from ? I'm trying to learn drawing luscious skin right now, coloring is my worse subject

[Anonymous No.4971127]

is there a tutorial out there on how to use A as a sketch? or at least a timelapse to see the process

I want to see what it's good for

[Anonymous No.4971128]

>>4971125
idk japanese but the op has some neat resorces in mega

[Anonymous No.4971149]

>>4971127
looks like sycra's lightning bolt meme, pretty sure he's got some demos of it.

[Anonymous No.4971152]

>>4971149
exactly what i was looking for, thank you anon

[Anonymous No.4971209]

is it okay if I use uno makato artwork and style as reference?

[Anonymous No.4971223]

>>4971209
Why are you looking for our permission

[Anonymous No.4971326]

>>4971223
I'm asking if is like a good start to begin with

[Anonymous No.4971348]

>>4971125
>I can read and understand Japanese and English
Why...don't you just shoot a message here and there to a few artists on pixiv and ask them?

[Anonymous No.4971378]

>>4963935
studying an artist that doesn't have a fundamental misunderstanding of perspective be like 'ok how'

artist is ichika original image is https://imgur.com/a/gEdeyVs

[Anonymous No.4971381]

>>4971378
2nd image https://imgur.com/a/uIzWQeA

[Anonymous No.4971384]

>>4963935
Testing a new pen. Pilot g tec c. I think scott Robertson recommended it.

[Anonymous No.4971398]

>>4971348
I'll, planning on asking people on fantia, too

[Anonymous No.4971447]

>>4970789
There's never a book or guide. Learn shadows and light from realism, understand how to block in shadows. Then collect lots of refs and try and use refs to give you this style. PS pinterest is good for id'ing stuff with the same style

[Anonymous No.4971889]

>>4970126
Soul

[Anonymous No.4971955]

When do most anime artists opt not to use reference? Are there some who always use those because they don't out themselves by streaming?

[Anonymous No.4971901]

>>4970918
Its supposed to give you a decent idea of what the head structure is like. You don't have to follow the exercises in them, but you can take the concepts in the book and try to copy anime drawings you like in a simplified way using those concepts. You don't need to draw old men.

Also, you don't necessarily have to start with Loomis. imo, if you're starting out, try learning basic construction and gesture before learning anatomy.

Basically, learn some fundies, copy anime using what you learned, and draw for fun a lot. If you don't do that last part, you're guaranteed to burn out.

[Anonymous No.4971963]

>>4971955
>When do most anime artists opt not to use reference?
When they’re good enough to get consistent amounts of commissions.
>Are there some who always use those because they don't out themselves by streaming?
Of course, don’t be an honorfag who thinks referencing is bad. /beg/s suck and would drive off a cliff if they were given a car, train yourself properly.

[Anonymous No.4971992]

Hey guys, a guy from /beg/ told me that someone here had some good resources posted that aren't in the general and it really worked for him. That might be vague but I was wondering if anyone has any idea what I'm talking about and could post it.

[Anonymous No.4972025]

>>4971955
Just about all artists use references. Typically it's just having open a browser on another monitor looking for ideas.

[Anonymous No.4972202]

First time trying a perspective like this and really unhappy with it. Also trying to get better at rendering so critique on any aspect of the drawing would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4972214]

>>4972202
hand too long
little white spots at coloring

[Anonymous No.4972265]

>>4971955
I've rarely drawn without a ref. I've been drawing for 20 years.

[Anonymous No.4972380]

>>4972202
>First time trying a perspective like this
you really pushed yourself with the tricky 3/4 view from head level.

[Anonymous No.4972382]

>>4972202
>>4972380
kek

[Anonymous No.4972396]

>>4972380
Don't bully

[Anonymous No.4972440]

>>4972396
but bullying is the only thing i'm good at

[Anonymous No.4972492]

>>4969224
How do you do these so called filters on CSP?

[Anonymous No.4972893]

>>4972492
make a correction layer with 0 saturation or a new layer on color mode and then fill it with black (same as in photoshop)

[Anonymous No.4972922]

Help. How do I ink.

[Anonymous No.4972978]

>>4968932
All right, I got some time to do a quick edit.
Does this work. please tell me soon, dad :')

[Anonymous No.4972994]

>>4972978
Just need to render that arm out again and it's good, dude.

[Anonymous No.4973002]

>>4972978
cringe af

[Anonymous No.4973025]

>>4972893
Thanks

[Anonymous No.4973036]

>>4972978
The legs are fucking retarded and make no sense, she would be falling down those stairs in this pose

[Anonymous No.4973075]

>>4972978
But... is not apples... q.q

[Anonymous No.4973079]

>>4972978
Something looks majorly off about the lighting but I can't figure out what it is. The lighting on the arm should affect the sleeve. The halo lighting should be hitting the top of the breast, the zipper and the buckles.
Because of the light from the halo and wings, shadows should be cast more deeply on the surrounding walls. Because of the halo, if the light is reaching out from beyond her hair, it could be hitting the metal stairs in a much more dramatic fashion. The metal on the stairs appears to be rendered incorrectly, it's not very shiny and the light source seems haphazard. There are stripes on the stairs that you haven't adjusted the colour of it to be falling under the light. There doesn't seem to be any sort of depth to the image as all the stairs and background is lit in the same way, you could use some cinematic lighting. There doesn't appear to be much value shift to the skin, it appears too flat. The lighting on the nose isn't strong enough and is the wrong value and colour.

The tights seem to be curling in on themselves. The light is weird and on the side. It should be probably much stronger on top but fall off more and maybe be more clearly defined as both the halo exists and the environment light from the top.

An issue with the gun light. Again, it wants to be lit from the top or the right side and not the left side.

The walls are too light. Idk how to fix this.

In general lot of the parts of this image just scream /int/ to me. There is a lack of understanding of realism/light/shadow. If I knew how to fix it I wouldn't be permastuck in /int/ forever. I think the only way to get the correct answer is mocking up the whole thing in 3D which takes me forever I guess, change her halo and wings to be an emissive area light, change all the metal parts to use metal shaders, cloth to cloth, skin to skin and then shine a light down from on top... I watched a fanart arknight speedpaint and it was 90% 3D with some painting over the top.

[Anonymous No.4973111]

>>4973079
>I watched a fanart arknight speedpaint and it was 90% 3D with some painting over the top.
Post link, sounds neat.
But I think fixing the pose and cleaning up the shading would already be enough, no need to go full autism for them animu pictures.

[Anonymous No.4973113]

>>4973079
This is a big nothing word salad

[Anonymous No.4973132]

>>4973079
It's because everything wasn't drawn as a coherent piece and everything is slapped together haphazardly. Like the belt on an already rendered jacket with little to no regard on how it affects it.

The background in particular has elements that that drawn individually makes sense but looked at a whole doesn't fit together and just fails to be a believable location. A previous person commented it made them feel sick and this was the primarily reason.

From the hands and clavicle, disappearing leg to the character that looks like it was just pasted on a background, you can tell the artist focuses on looking good rather than getting a fundamentally working image.

The problem lies deeper than how it's rendered.

[Anonymous No.4973133]

>>4973111
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15J411Q7Hd
Check this out

[Anonymous No.4973140]

>>4973133
*
artist's twitter https://twitter.com/thornsdance

[Anonymous No.4973153]

>>4973132
Yeah that makes sense I guess. When you look at each piece individually it works in terms of shading but when you put it together it looks a bit strange

[Anonymous No.4973170]

>>4973133
How long do you think this would take to do without 3D or only using simple boxes in blender after getting gud at perspective?
I really like art like this, but the process doesn't look fun to me.

[Anonymous No.4973191]

>>4973170
I don’t know, but If I want to guess if it took him like 12 hours to do it with the aid of 3d, I’d reckon it’s gonna take close to 17-20 hours.

[Anonymous No.4973197]

>>4964730
you dont belong here

[Anonymous No.4973205]

>>4964661
He's an eternal /beg/ who gives a shit

[Anonymous No.4973208]

>>4973170
I would think it would be really difficult to do without 3D. A lot of artists nowadays get taught 3D skills so so many of their awesome looking pieces just use 3D even if they keep that fact secret in order to stay above the competition. In actual fact, I've found that I don't need to know insane construction using perspective, when the 3D program handles most of it. Perspective is better when you want to get things done quickly but for harder scenes 3D is significantly faster and more accurate. The lighting, the shading, the base colours the 3D program will spoonfeed you as long as you can set it up correctly (which can be... challenging)

[Anonymous No.4973212]

Is this animu enough??

[Anonymous No.4973214]

>>4973191
>>4973208
Time to try to swallow the 3Dpill, again. Shitty donuts here I come.

[Anonymous No.4973215]

>>4973212
no please go back to salt l. I really do hate people thinking everything stylized is "anime"

[Anonymous No.4973220]

>>4973212
AWOOOOGAAAA AHHHHH GONNA COOOOOOOOOOMMMMM

[Anonymous No.4973222]

>>4973133
>>4973208
what the fuck so learning construction is a /beg/ trap now?

[Anonymous No.4973225]

>>4973215
Are you japanese?

[Anonymous No.4973227]

>>4973222
Obviously not retard, just think of it as scaffolding to what you want to draw but eventually you stop relying on construction as it's basically intuitive to draw forms without needing to draw loomis mannequins beforehand. Construction is really good for learning but you'll eventually rely more on what you can do without it.

[Anonymous No.4973229]

>>4973222
Okay, so I'm an /int/ artist (however, I have been learning T5's workflow and learning a lot of 3D and it seems to me that 3D might be enough to take me on the road to pro) so take this with a grain of salt. Construction is, in my opinion, not as important as it might seem for those of us who love rendering and lighting and not so much on the epik poses side of things, but you do need to know it in T5's situation because the artist needs to know where to put the eyes.

And you need construction whenever you want to do 2D art with dynamic fluid poses etc.

T5 also isn't as impressive as the typical anime artist in terms of interesting poses and the like, because of the dependence on 3D. T5 does know how to draw though, as you can see when they sketch out what they want the scene to look like before beginning the 3D.

[Anonymous No.4973238]

>>4973214
By the way, the renderer T5 is using in the vid is Octane Renderer iirc, which you can get for free if you're using Blender https://home.otoy.com/render/octane-render/demo/
Octane is really good for that soft lighting look in T5's images. Octane hasn't been cracked in forever, so using the Blender version is the only way of getting it for free (and legally). But I think it needs a real good gpu.

[Anonymous No.4973239]

>>4973229
What resources have you been using to learn 3D?

[Anonymous No.4973252]

>>4973239
Well for one thing, the only proper 3D program I know *right now* is 3dcoat and rendering in keyshot because I bounced off everything else (because that's how dumb I am). I watched Jama Jurabaev's "Intro to 3D concept design" (it's on cgpeers) and it was by far the most stupid proof and most useful thing I've ever watched. Jama's a great teacher, it's just a shame that there aren't many 3dcoat tutorials (most tutorials are in Blender) so you might get stuck modelling complex things (I literally still don't get how to model stuff like how to divide up a tower into a bunch of rooms). But stuff like bookshelves in 3Dcoat? Just apply draw a rectangle with the cutout tool. Cities? Just use stencils after you've sketched out the shapes in clip studio or photoshop haha.

Jama also has Blender tutorials, but his blender ones seem to not be super beginner friendly.

To learn Marvelous Designer (aka cloth simulation) I watched Lori Griffiths introduction video, the gigantic CG Elves beginner course off cgpeers and a little bit of the flipped normals Marvelous Designer beginner tutorial. Marvelous Designer is probably the most troublesome because I don't know how to sew or anything about fashion for that matter. But cg elves has a tutorial for loads and loads and loads of clothing items so I suppose that's also idiotproof. Don't think Marvelous can model shoes or anime fur though.

Basically all these tutorials etc are aimed at concept artists. Because essentially that T5 anime piece, what it is really, is what's called 3dbashing in concept art and anime slapped on top.

[Anonymous No.4973270]

>>4965282
Something about how you did the head and hair makes it feel uncannily 3d to me and I don't know why

[Anonymous No.4973277]

>>4973270
Probably "referenced" (traced) from a 3D model

[Anonymous No.4973288]

>>4973252
Thanks for explaining so much. Stupid proof is exactly what I need.

[Anonymous No.4973290]

>>4973288
The course, 3dcoat and keyshot are all on cgpeers. The keyshot keygen can be run inside of a sandbox like sandboxie, iirc because I didn't trust it.

[Anonymous No.4973293]

>>4971378
>>4971381
i'm back with another ichika study, bitches. original is https://imgur.com/RlTM9l5

just wanna get it out of the way that if you coom to the girl on the bottom you're officially a fag because she's a guy reincarnated as a girl. the top two are fair game but you might want to keep in mind that they are literally, unironically satan, and also they're all over 1,000 years old and also dead

anyways after these 3 drawings a couple things i've noticed
-ichika has a much better grasp over perspective than i do, most notable in the face
-ichika draws bangs higher than i do. aka, she draws them in the right place and i've been doing it wrong this whole time
-more on the hair: the detail in the way ichika draws hair is more in the sketches/lines as opposed to the detail coming out during rendering. it was a fun challenge
-the way ichika draws eyes is very... realistic, in a sense. at least, they're very grounded in reality. you can easily tell the top part from the bottom part of the eye, did i mention they're actually eye-shaped. for some reason i just see that a lot of people don't draw anime-style eyes that way
-ichika's style overall is very slender. the lines and shapes are very long and thin, and slick. one of the bigger challenges in these redraws was having to erase entire sections because other shapes in the drawing made me notice they were way off.

[Anonymous No.4973426]

Does anyone have any tutorials on how to paint like as109?

[Anonymous No.4973441]

>>4973426
All the semi realism styles require studying both from realism and for you to copy their art as precisely as possible so you can learn from what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.4973450]

>>4973441
Thanks for the answer I guess.

[Anonymous No.4973453]

>>4973450
Artists don't usually share their tricks to be honest. Learn to be a human photocopier and figure out what artists they like and be able to blend multiple images together in your brain to create something new. Like that person probably likes T5 and White Datura/RA Ilium/Alphonse. So their style could be a hybrid of that. And if one of the artists who draws similarly to another artist you go through all the videos and their nip blogs/weibo blogs/pixiv/twitter etc until you find out who they look up to and see if they share progresses. Some artists take students and they'll post their student progresses which will give you hints on what they do to get good. But in that case as109 doesn't have perfect perspective so they're more likely a student than a master.

[Anonymous No.4973537]

>>4972978

[Anonymous No.4973586]

>>4973537
congratulations you made it worse.

[Anonymous No.4973590]

>>4973586
why?

[Anonymous No.4973624]

>>4973212
neither anime nor appealing.

[Anonymous No.4973628]

>>4973537
gross

[Anonymous No.4973647]

Beg coming in

[Anonymous No.4973648]

>>4973628
why?

[Anonymous No.4973656]

>>4971071
>anime porn
Classic /asg/ poster desiring nothing more than to produce coom for the coom gods

[Anonymous No.4973661]

>>4973537
>>4972978

[Anonymous No.4973667]

>>4973647
post the hand talons you censored.

[Anonymous No.4973675]

>>4973426
As109 has been painting that style for such a long time, you dont get to just paint like that without at least a loose understanding of how everything related to light works.

He probably literally just paints on a few layers until it looks right.

Also please do not hurt roris, anon

[Anonymous No.4973688]

>>4973667

[Anonymous No.4973701]

>>4972922
top right ass of your quadrant is what you should aim for imo

[Anonymous No.4973720]

>>4963935
where to find a good grain like the one one ryzas body here?
everything i find in the clip studio asset store is way too overbearing

[Anonymous No.4973729]

i really can't ass myself to draw proper backgrounds

[Anonymous No.4973731]

>>4973729
First do landscapes or something easy and then slow move towards something more complicated like rooms with chairs, tables, cups, pretty much anything you can think of.

[Anonymous No.4973740]

>>4973731
my problem is just how time consuming anything with detail is
like wood in a house for example or leaves on trees. i could just use pattern brushes but still super time consuming

[Anonymous No.4973744]

>>4973740
That entirely depends on what you really want to do in a finish piece, yeah you could focus mostly on the character instead of the background or do both with equal effort, I also had the same problem when I did something with a background but usually the more you’re use it the faster you’ll be at it eventually. That’s why you gotta do tons of studies and drawing to really get the most use of mileage.
Remember spending a days worth for a second study and now only taking you a couple hours or even 30 minutes?

[Anonymous No.4973746]

>>4973688
>the legs were spooky stumps too
rip
you gotta work on those limb proportions m8.

[Anonymous No.4973749]

>>4973744
true. my problem is i usually fovus on the character and do the background last
and by then ive run out of steam and dont know how to make a sloppier background fit nicely
guess i should try including background in my original sketches/lineart

[Anonymous No.4973751]

>>4973746
I did have enough room for the feet.

[Anonymous No.4973753]

>>4973749
You should try thumbnail your drawings and see if that works, but that require already being good at some fundies to get a lot of use of it, notably perspective and composition.

[Anonymous No.4973757]

>>4973749
Same, never goes well for me too. I'm just not used to putting figures into space.
Maybe studying movie stills with people standing around would be a good idea for us.

[Anonymous No.4973770]

>>4973751
only because you fucked the proportions.

[Anonymous No.4973776]

>>4973749
If you want to improve, you'll inevitably find yourself taking more time. I remember when I used to spend 1-2 hours on drawing and now it takes me nearly 20-30 hours per piece.

[Anonymous No.4973779]

>>4973776
I will guess most of your time is dedicated towards rendering, am I correct?

[Anonymous No.4973782]

>>4973779
Yup yup. Rendering is the big time eater. Actual flattish animu style doesn't take that long <--- assuming you don't take too many attempts to get it right.

Also when you improve you'll find it easier to spot mistakes and how to fix em. So that also takes more time, when you spot more issues and know how to fix them.

[Anonymous No.4973793]

>>4973782
You could try trimming down time by taking as many shortcuts and tricks you can possibly do and even go down to only 8h, assuming you have the skills already. Btw can you post some of your work and what your workflow looks like? I’m interested how artists have different approaches to everything. Honestly I would probably give up if I have to spend like more than 24hours or more to a single piece unless I’m really really committed to it

[Anonymous No.4973809]

>>4973793
I don't really have a set workflow as I change it whenever I get bored. For example, pic related was me experimenting with T5's workflow. (aka the same steps but with different software).

However, my typical workflow is just sketch in CSP -> flat in CSP (CSP has bucket fill with hole detection) -> paint/colour manip in PS. Or just paint straight up in PS. But I think a lot of the time is spent looking up refs/fixing things overall because I'm pretty dependent on refs.

[Anonymous No.4973812]

>>4973793
(cont) One anon said to me years back one day that the amount of time spent will go down though

[Anonymous No.4973814]

>>4973809
Nice shit but there’s some tangent problems going on with the boy’s wolf ears, oh. Yeah can you post your flat color stuff next? I really dig the painterly shit you posted. But I would crucify you for rendering the background in a 3dsoftware than painting it yourself.

[Anonymous No.4973818]

>>4973812
Well he is some what right as eventually it will go down but that is something you’ll notice after years upon years of drawing/painting and finding new ways to cut it down, I think most of the slow down is either you’re new to the thing you’re painting/drawing and also lack some fundies, but even after that you could also have to contend with yourself doubting and ended up reworking shit over and over again.

[Anonymous No.4973827]

>>4973814
3D's kinda fun even if it is quite soulless and time consuming. It's a little impractical I think because one of my first forays into it basically doubled the amount of time I normally take. So it's probably better reserved for things that you really want to end up looking good. I think the most interesting use of it is as 3D backgrounds in anime, because I saw some guy make an anime in After Effects and the background would spin which makes me suspect that the whole thing is a model (with the animu characters hand drawn of course). However, anime is probably too big of an undertaking and I've given up every time I've tried (especially as poses/gestures/imagination is my major weakness)

This is my "other style".

[Anonymous No.4973830]

>>4973818
>and ended up reworking shit over and over again
Especially the typical "many minor modifications that no one will ever notice".

[Anonymous No.4973832]

>>4973827
That is certainly jarring to see desu, i do bit use some 3d, but it’s much simpler because I use sketchup instead for the background, but I usually try to sketch it out initially so I got a general idea.
Mind you i rarely finished anything as I am stuck in sketch/study hell where I never finish anything and just fucking do studies over and over again.
Pic related is shit I’ve been doing for months now.

[Anonymous No.4973838]

>>4973832
I did have some aspirations of being a concept artist (but realism is something I never particularly stick to for long).

I honestly think that that initial sketching is something that one has to do. Otherwise it tends to go out of control or it doesn't fit together.

Doing studies over and over again is good mentality to have, though. I find it difficult to drag myself into that sort of mindset. I used to always finished everything so when I first started out, I think it kinda tanked my mileage for sketching, because I did so much turd polishing. But looking back, I think it did help with the rendering etc.

Yeah, environments take time. They can sometimes be frustrating to get right (and/or take multiple attempts). Something that helps me with environments is to collect multiple refs of the sort of thing that I want to draw before I start, especially if I can see the steps that the artist took starting out (their blockout)

[Anonymous No.4973847]

>>4973838
I don’t really have any issues with environments unless I have to detail them also but the thing is if they’re not the focus of what you’re painting, why bother? You could be loose with it and take some artistic liberties instead of autistic polishing shit that isn’t important.
I think finding a good balance is the key to that.

[Anonymous No.4973848]

>>4973847
If you detail them too much, I find it also takes focus away from the central character in them.

[Anonymous No.4973852]

>>4973848
You could try contrast them to each other by simply using value or how much detail something has, tons of noise(detail) in the background, eyes focus to the character (less noise) or be good in composition and lead the viewer to the intended area.

[Anonymous No.4973952]

>>4973852
Yeah, these ideas all work. I always think they are the most effective when one plans first

[Anonymous No.4974148]

[Anonymous No.4974168]

>>4972978
You can do it, anon. I believe in you.

[Anonymous No.4974292]

im currently working on this. Why don't you guys do greyscale studies? It's so much fun and translate into coloring on how you should render the edges.

[Anonymous No.4974374]

>>4967003
>>4967058
>>4969457
Some fixed

[Anonymous No.4974384]

>>4974374
nice!

[Anonymous No.4974396]

>>4970251
because of the textured brushes

[Anonymous No.4974415]

>>4964029
>>4964010
I like your style. If you normally draw like this, all I'd recommend is try to clean up your linework, but that'll come naturally as you keep drawing more and more. I think it's good to remember that sometimes it's the small details that sell a (well composited, otherwise good) artwork.
People who don't know much about art will of course appreciate your sense of form and your style, but what really gets them is a sense of completeness and those little Easter eggs. Godspeed

[Anonymous No.4974585]

>>4970546

[Anonymous No.4975003]

>>4974585
Nice coom you got there

[Anonymous No.4975004]

>>4975003
On second thought, those man sausage fingers! AHHH DISGUSTING

[Anonymous No.4975119]

[Anonymous No.4975137]

any good beg anime videos? i'm too retarded for books

[Anonymous No.4975168]

(Pin2D) Digital Drawing Correction Playlists:
Figure Tutorial

Go to this on youtube, it helped me alot.

[Anonymous No.4975169]

[Anonymous No.4975219]

does this look like disgusting westaboo garbage? is it approaching anime?

[Anonymous No.4975224]

>>4975137
https://youtu.be/lRmgLBCaV6Q
Unironically helped get me into the mindset to practice. Even has subs. Everything else you find on your own because it's subjective to the style you want to achieve.

[Anonymous No.4975315]

>>4975168
>>4975224
thanks, I'll watch them tomorrow. goodnight.

[Anonymous No.4975327]

>>4975315
Just do now then you can review tomorrow bro...

[Anonymous No.4975354]

[Anonymous No.4975746]

Where can i get some resources on coloring/rendering etc using CSP?
Can you link some

[Anonymous No.4975813]

>>4974292
Be honest, you're heavily inspiring yourself from summersama right?
I purposely mistyped his name since I don't want to spread him around. I'm quite a fan of his art and have studied him too.

[Anonymous No.4976004]

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