/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:10:38 2020 No.4963343 [Reply] [Original]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

1.-screenshot the image and post that instead

2.-change camera capture settings to something smaller

3.-send to computer and resize in picresize.com

There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it.

Previous Thread:>>>>4961625

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:30:21 2020 No.4963372 Learn to take criticism boom you're gonna be /int/ in due time

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:33:05 2020 No.4963375 >>4963372 Fpbp

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:37:23 2020 No.4963380 >>4963372 >ask for criticism >”Loomis” >I still can’t fucking draw Yeah, /int/ in no time...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:43:05 2020 No.4963388 >want to get better >figure out what i need to do >hand hurts no breaks dude

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:44:52 2020 No.4963394 >>4963372 if you lurked on /ic/ for even half a week you'd know that the only you could improvement your art was by learning and practicing the fundimentals. if you chose to ignore that advice that's completely on you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:51:10 2020 No.4963405 >>4963372 best way to grind them

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:51:28 2020 No.4963407
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Alright, so i spent an hour drawing this shit. What should i do now? Should i re-draw it multiple times until i get it better or should i move on and draw different humans until i eventually get better at it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:52:24 2020 No.4963408 File: 79 KB, 730x1095, dance_9_by_jlior-d4vl0v5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4963407 Here is ref. image btw.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:54:38 2020 No.4963412 >>4963343 how do you make lines without looking like your schizo. My hands always shaking bros

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:55:10 2020 No.4963413 >>4963407 Try turning it around in this position, and adding environmental aspects to the foreground and background. https://youtu.be/9PgZh0d_x8Q?t=496

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:55:32 2020 No.4963416 File: 14 KB, 255x191, isP0iiiiO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4963343 >pic not a perfect loop

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:58:31 2020 No.4963419 >>4963407 I like the take what you learned and try to do better next drawing approach >Should i re-draw it multiple times until i get it better can you even do that without going crazy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:59:05 2020 No.4963423 Literal manchild >>4963414

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 19:03:23 2020 No.4963430 File: 183 KB, 718x536, asss.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4963343 I have literally never drawn anything before.

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 19:04:48 2020 No.4963437

>>4963419
>can you even do that without going crazy?
I mean, is not that what art YouTubers say? Is not that what art studies are supposed to be? To draw something multiple times until you get it better?

What about drawing human poses with a timer? Should i do that instead?

Sorry, i am a totall /beg/giner and the amount of information is overwhelming to me. I don´t know where even to start.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 19:15:06 2020 No.4963457 how do you know you're adequate with fundies enough to start doing what you want there should be common tests for the ones where thats possible

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 19:21:37 2020 No.4963469 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgMTK6RQHU4

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 19:22:00 2020 No.4963471 >>4963457 You should always be attempting to do things you want. How else would you know what you need to study if you don't?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 19:22:13 2020 No.4963473 >>4963414 Cringy as fuck, stay /beg/ forever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 19:25:28 2020 No.4963480 >>4963471 fundies come before style

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 19:28:22 2020 No.4963486

>>4963437
don't get me wrong I am beg too. but I think you are suppose to draw different poses. Like I said I like to moving on to the next drawing and apply what I learned.

>What about drawing human poses with a timer? Should i do that instead?

do you mean gesture? I like to do it as a warm up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 19:29:45 2020 No.4963488 >>4963480 a-anon, you never done learning fundies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:08:23 2020 No.4963530 >>4963457 https://youtu.be/Cec4V84ev_U?t=41

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:14:04 2020 No.4963535 File: 115 KB, 604x700, 20201027_200540.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] halp

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:15:56 2020 No.4963537 >>4963488 yeah but there's gotta be a point where its clear that your fundies are "above average"

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:24:50 2020 No.4963547
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For the life of me I can't digitally colour pencil sketches, I just don't know what im doing wrong but it always looks so shit at every stage and I just give up.
I just started this tonight just putting down base colours but it looks so dummy shit already its hard for me to continue
Any tips on colouring at all (how to start etc.)

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:28:36 2020 No.4963550 File: 2.74 MB, 4032x3024, 20201028_002812.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4963343 Unfinished dorohedoro sketch i plan to felt in colour tomorrow, would appreciate any feedback on where im fucking up

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:29:02 2020 No.4963552 I'm having a bit of an issue with the asaro head course, right now I cant seem to fully grasp perspective on the cheekbones, anything I should do?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:38:39 2020 No.4963565 >>4963457 you are not allowed to draw anime or what you want until you are tall enough to ride. back to boxes

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:42:05 2020 No.4963573

>>4963537
Anon please take my advice since I used to think like you and burned out hard over and over. Just draw for no reason other than to draw and study whenever you draw something and think "im not that good at this". If you're on a perpetual art grind it to hit a point of satisfaction you'll never get there, or if you do you'll get an ego and stop progressing as much since you'll feel some level of comfort with the status of "good enough"

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:43:31 2020 No.4963576 >>4963457 I'm pretty sure you'll know when you get there and that if your not sure how to gauge it yourself yet then that's likely a good enough sign that your not at that point.

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:43:43 2020 No.4963577

>>4963457
just draw what you want man, if it looks bad then you go back to practicing.
there isn't a one way approach to drawing, if you want to be better then practice, just don't burn out by drawing nothing but circles and boxes, kinda defeats the whole purpose of wanting to learn how to draw in the first place if you aren't making the shit you want to

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:44:50 2020 No.4963579 >>4963537 and what will happen if you draw what you want before you are "above average"?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:46:58 2020 No.4963586 >>4963329 >How do I draw straight lines Use a ruler. Angle the paper in a way that drawing a straight line is really easy to do with a simple motion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:47:02 2020 No.4963587 >>4963380 But did you read Loomis though? And practice? Even if it sounds like a meme response, it means that you need to review and practice face structure

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:48:05 2020 No.4963588 >>4963457 when you were ready loomis will appear to you and give his blessing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:48:53 2020 No.4963592 >>4963576 what if i got depression

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:49:32 2020 No.4963594
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I read and did a bunch of loomis today and drew a face that was WAY better than I drew pre-loomis ( I made her a goblin for some reason) But I still feel like Im drawing symbols for eyes and such. I just need to draw eyes/noses/mouths from reference more, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:50:34 2020 No.4963596 >>4963586 Ghosting lines is also a helpful exercise

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Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:56:06 2020 No.4963606

>>4963576
not him but I was pretty sure I was ready before and drew a lot anime bitches. now every time I see them I cringe and ask my self what the fuck was I thinking. and what was the anons who said that it was cute and asked for my blog doing. was it bulling was it pity were they legally blind I don't know. now I can't believe on anons anymore and not even on my fucking eyes.

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:56:38 2020 No.4963607

>>4963592
Big whoop, join the club. Fundamental skills tend to be things you can judge rather objectively as long as there's no deliberate stylization; you'll know when you're getting good enough that you feel comfortable drawing things. Either way, just draw anyways. I get that you'll get a feeling of "wahhhh this isn't how I wanted it to turn out wahhhh" but what helps me get over that lately is saying in my head before I start "I am going to fill this page/canvas with drawings that I will never show anybody" and it takes a lot of the pressure off. If I'm not gonna get crit or try fishing for compliments then what do I have to lose if the hands look bad or smth?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:56:45 2020 No.4963608 >>4963457 asap, as you should be doing both.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:57:13 2020 No.4963609 >>4961036 >>4961070 A different /beg/ here. Was he saying that the leg attachment was off?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:57:58 2020 No.4963612 >>4963606 Despite what you may believe, people who are less skilled than you will not have a frame of reference for how unskilled you yourself may be. If someone was gonna crab you they'd probably just shit talk, /ic/ is rarely subtle

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 20:59:37 2020 No.4963617 >>4963473 >>4963423 not even op but god damn the seeth, from clearly one poster as well

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 21:08:19 2020 No.4963633 >>4963612 pity exists, especially here

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 21:10:02 2020 No.4963638 >>4963577 >just draw what you want man, if it looks bad then you go back to practicing. thats exactly why i'm practicing

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 21:14:10 2020 No.4963640 File: 37 KB, 607x680, work1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] am i feeling the forms? how is my anatomy

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 21:16:50 2020 No.4963644 >>4963617 The fact that he carried it over to a new thread. Ga'damn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 21:21:28 2020 No.4963656 >>4963617 >>4963644 Calm down ladies, it’s over.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 21:29:49 2020 No.4963668 >>4963617 >>4963644 pure cringe, go draw.

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 21:40:01 2020 No.4963684
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Absolute /beg/inner, started with Loomis's fun with a pencil. I'm having fun so far which is great, so I'm waiting to hit that first wall were you want to quit and overcome it.

Over 10 days of casually drawing I made some progress, even if a little by other people's standars, while I plan on getting through all of Loomi'ss books, I don't really know where I should focus my efforts to make that jump between the left and what's on Loomis's book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 21:56:23 2020 No.4963716 >>4963656 >>4963668 >>4963644 >>4963617 >>4963423 >>4963473 >anime /begs/ are da best! Anime artfags are so much more mentally ill than regular artfags, who are also insane

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 22:05:27 2020 No.4963728 File: 740 KB, 956x1488, 1603850582678.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wip. Head too big. Shoulders and torso too small. Color and shadows suck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 22:08:55 2020 No.4963735 >>4963716 Where does that put you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 22:09:47 2020 No.4963738 >>4963716 Drawing is for autistic retards, and its only in the nature of retards to make fun of fellow retards.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 22:10:57 2020 No.4963741 >>4963728 Woah. It seems that you have good taste. What are you looking for with your art? Can you post more of yours?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 22:12:00 2020 No.4963742 >>4963728 Btw. Did you draw everything from memory?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 22:13:09 2020 No.4963744 >>4963728 Not /beg/

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 22:13:32 2020 No.4963745 >>4963728 Tummy

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 22:15:29 2020 No.4963747 File: 30 KB, 394x465, nb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4963744 >Not /beg/

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 22:15:42 2020 No.4963748 >>4963741 thank you anon. i just draw for fun dude. instagram.com/nuruigumi >>4963742 yes i sketched it at work today, thats probably why its so fucked up. im pretty new to drawing people. the bike i could do in my sleep. >>4963745 this guy gets it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 22:22:52 2020 No.4963755 >>4963747 LOL I agree with you. I post in beg because I belong in here. I'm not fishing for compliments

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 22:23:37 2020 No.4963757 >>4963747 Im curious, why is that /beg/?

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 22:27:55 2020 No.4963766
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>>4963748
>>4963747
Damn dude, i checked your insta and you are definitely not beg. Your shit is cool.

I know you would say you're not that good, but could you give advice on what to do to a total /beg/? I just started learning to draw but i don't know where even to start. I am >>4963407 btw.

>Pic related is fucking rad btw.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 22:56:06 2020 No.4963825 >>4963552 anyone?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:04:08 2020 No.4963830 >>4963825 feel ther forms

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:13:38 2020 No.4963843 >>4963757 It's not. Crabs are running rampant

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:15:29 2020 No.4963845 >>4963757 it's not complete beginner, he's definitely got a few years of practice in. But the fundamentals just aren't there

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:22:29 2020 No.4963856 File: 210 KB, 900x771, KTD_Proj_1_A_Feet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Key to Drawing - Exercise 1

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:25:43 2020 No.4963862

>>4963843
>>4963744
It absolutely is. The rendering isn't good, the anatomical knowledge is very lacking, their line work is entirely chicken scratch, they don't have a good grasp on perspective, and they don't understand clothing. They're far from the worst on this board but they still have things to work on before it'll start looking good

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:26:46 2020 No.4963864 >>4963856 Nice feet...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:27:46 2020 No.4963868 >>4963825 Unironically post your work. Saying you don't get it doesn't illustrate why you don't get it

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:31:57 2020 No.4963874
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>>4963343
Very new to drawing on computer. Does anyone know how I would actually colour an image like this and make it look good? Any other criticism is good too (inb4 I get called a tracefag).

For context pic is a drawing I'm doing of my irl best friend and his big sister fucking

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:33:29 2020 No.4963875 >>4963874 Whoah dude yeah did you trace a professional coom artist

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:34:13 2020 No.4963876

>>4963457
you should be alternating between practicing and drawing what you want. You should be seeing the mistakes you made through the latter and using the former to fix them the next time you draw for fun.

It's better to do it that way than to grind fundies until you feel "Good enough", because you'll never progress if you don't feel "good enough" to do something.

In short, trial and error.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:34:31 2020 No.4963877 File: 207 KB, 407x316, boxes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4963430 It looks like you drew a 1-point perspective grid but had no idea how to use it, so you just randomly drew shapes over it instead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:35:00 2020 No.4963879 >>4963868 Ill post some shitty image edit, cant take pics right now

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:36:19 2020 No.4963880 >>4963877 Anon I'm pretty sure he's shit posting, nobody is that stupid

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:37:37 2020 No.4963881 >>4963880 Lol, i did the same the first time i come here. Unironically...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:37:52 2020 No.4963882 >>4963716 how is anons telling eachother to fuck off any different than the shit that happens in a regular thread?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:40:00 2020 No.4963887 File: 273 KB, 1350x735, man_of_business.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I escape the "anime style" trap and into something more realistic, while not making characters look disgusting?

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:41:25 2020 No.4963890

>>4963874
>New to digital
>Those lines
>No form of underdrawing whatsoever
yeah you're tracing and a liar, you won't understand how to color properly if you don't understand forms since you'll have shitty values and even if you only do a dark and light value with different colours, it still won't look good if you don't know how to use it to indicate form. Learn how to draw

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:41:28 2020 No.4963891
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>>4963875
Haha, I will take that as a compliment.

I used a pic of his sister from her insta but drew her naked. Then took a pic of myself and used that to draw his body underneath (we have similar bodies). Now I am using a pic from their mom's Facebook and drawing them going at it in their back yard.

This is a pic of them irl

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:41:34 2020 No.4963892 >>4963887 study western cartoonists old mad magazine is a goldmine of that stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:43:52 2020 No.4963898 >>4963887 Doesn't even look anime style you crack baby

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:44:00 2020 No.4963899 >>4963887 Study western artists you like. I personally really like karl kopinsky or however the fuck you spell his name and for something more stylized I really like dennis rodier

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:45:25 2020 No.4963901 >>4963890 I don't have a drawing tablet. What's wrong with using straight lines where they make sense? And what exactly am I lying about?

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:52:23 2020 No.4963913

>>4963901
I never said anything about them being straight and you're lying by implying in your op that you weren't tracing. It looks traced because there's practically no indication of form that isn't an extremely obvious landmark combined with the fact that there's no way somebody who fucks up hands that bad and leaves out so much potential detail on the bodies themselves has that firm a grasp on clothing folds. I've seen artists who use a mouse make things live before, saying that you're using one doesn't mean shit lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 23:57:48 2020 No.4963923 >>4963913 Not him but you're wasting on your breath on him dude lol Look >>4963891 It's just a creepy white kid looking for a community to take part in. Who cares

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 00:02:38 2020 No.4963928

>>4963913
I never said that I didn't trace things.

Here >>4963891 I described how I did it by combining a pic of myself and his sister. Never claimed to have done it all by magic. Why are you trying to attack someone for poor quality drawing on a beginner thread you sperg. Does it really matter how I did it if I manage to make it look good in the end?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 00:07:03 2020 No.4963936 File: 200 KB, 900x771, KTD_Proj_1_B_Hand.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4963856 Key to Drawing - Exercise 1 B

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 00:17:53 2020 No.4963952 >>4963877 What happens if the boxes aren't falling straight retard? Real life isn't perfection

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 00:24:14 2020 No.4963964

>>4963928
Not him but someone asked if you traced and you outright avoided saying yes or no and said you would take it as a compliment, implying that it wasn't traced. You got busted by people who draw who can spot tracers and now you're backpedalling like a bitch because you got exposed for being tracer scum

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 00:56:42 2020 No.4964014 >>4963952 well then at least learn to draw a box properly then and don't bother with a perspective grid if you won't use it??

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 01:13:59 2020 No.4964034 >>4963887 this bullshit doesnt look like anime you dumbfuck faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 01:16:04 2020 No.4964040 File: 58 KB, 383x469, 2020-10-28 01_15_42-CLIP STUDIO PAINT.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] butts

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 01:25:42 2020 No.4964054 >>4964040 More like I'm about to drain my fucking NUTTS

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 01:26:25 2020 No.4964055 >>4964054 thats a drawing sir.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 01:26:55 2020 No.4964058
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>>4963952
That was an interesting question so I looked it up. I guess artists use 2 point perspective and they rotate one of the perspectives based on the angle of the cube. I also saw 3 point perspective being used for a cube that was rotated on all 3 axis'.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 01:34:54 2020 No.4964066 >>4964058 This vid shows how an animator does it in real time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_luMHmlCio

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 01:42:14 2020 No.4964075 File: 3.01 MB, 2944x2185, 20201027_232455.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4963407 Samefag.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 01:43:14 2020 No.4964080 File: 206 KB, 3256x2574, The_Dive_by_mjranum_stock.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4964075 Reference.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:01:20 2020 No.4964098 >>4963407 >>4963408 >>4964075 >>4964080 >>4964075 Does copying reference images like this even works or i am just wasting my time?

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:08:13 2020 No.4964109
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>>4964098
I can't find the pic but I remember I improved significantly by drawing this character by eye in pencil, but it wasn't a basic sketch. I did the absolute 100% closest I could to match the proportions and shading as if it were a final exam and nothing else mattered. I spent multiple days just on one simple drawing that was basically just copying a single picture. It wasn't just mindlessly doing a quick sketch though. I went all in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:09:58 2020 No.4964114 >>4964109 Fuck. Megadeth reminds me of her...

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:11:31 2020 No.4964118

>>4964109
What I plan on doing next is taking pictures of people and breaking them down into shapes, changing the perspective and then trying to redraw them in that perspective. So basically
>Take photo
>Break down into shapes
>Find vanishing points
>Change vanishing points
>Redraw the shapes now at the new angle
>Redraw the person
The only problem is I don't know how to break a person down into shapes or what level the shapes should be at for this to work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:12:00 2020 No.4964119 File: 209 KB, 956x1488, fixbodyproportion.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4963728 i fix the body proportions and red lined myself. ill repost after i do the changes properly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:13:49 2020 No.4964121 File: 149 KB, 500x486, 1447765622982.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4964114

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:14:34 2020 No.4964122 >>4964121 >can't wake up

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:18:21 2020 No.4964127
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>>4964122
While I do have my own 'her' from ages ago the absolute worst dream I had was not of 'her' but of another cute who had a crush on me. The dream was that she actually had a personality. Then I woke up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:23:28 2020 No.4964136 A rush of guilt when drawing digitally. Should I be feeling guilty?

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:25:08 2020 No.4964137

>>4964127
i just woke up from the best dream i ever had in my life. i got to relive my first day of pre school. every moment was a wave or seratonin and nostalgia. everything was magical like willy wonka, and in the end my family was all there, my cousins and immediate family, and i gave everyone a kiss and told them i love them.

i felt like i died. like my life had a neat little bow on it and i could go peacefully.but then i woke up and went on 4chan. and now im looking at this dark face. and i have work in 4 hours.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:30:18 2020 No.4964141 >>4964136 why would you be feeling guilty? do you mean something feels more stressful about it? if its more stressful and you are fine with the other option (traditional) just do traditional

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:32:01 2020 No.4964142

>>4964136
No. In fact you can practice in digital to improve your skills with traditional. For example trying to fuck around with vanishing points and perspectives and having your lines be in layers so you can easily see what the fucks going on. Ironically gitting gud at traditional drawing also makes you a better digital artist in some ways.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:33:59 2020 No.4964144

>>4964098
How about reword it a bit, why are you copying it in the first place? Is your goal anatomy? Then just break them down into muscles and separate everything instead of drawing the entire figure without even knowing landmarks or which muscles overlap and insert into.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 02:56:55 2020 No.4964182
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>>4964144
To be honest. I don't actually know. People just told me draw and that's what i did. I was telling me that i was learning to shade and render with this but i would like to learn anatomy aswell.

Please. Give me a path to follow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 03:44:18 2020 No.4964260 >>4964058 >>4964066 Based

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 03:50:47 2020 No.4964272 >>4964098 yes. drawing from observation is good practice for many skills and lets you check your guesses/ideas/methods/results against something that's "correct".

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 04:52:06 2020 No.4964320 File: 1.59 MB, 732x1000, AstraUmigata6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MAGIC... EXISTS UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 04:54:27 2020 No.4964324
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>>4964320
And here's some lighter and darker version, at this point I can barely tell a difference about my versions after looking at it all day long.
But these 3 are the best ones I think.
I like to imagine detailing the hand wasn't important, some mumbo jumbo about not detracting from the main focus

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 06:13:04 2020 No.4964418 File: 108 KB, 521x1020, 20201028_051004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts on this, so far?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 06:15:28 2020 No.4964425 File: 108 KB, 521x1020, 20201028_051004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Going to try my hands at some digital. Thoughts on this, so far?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 06:18:58 2020 No.4964431 File: 411 KB, 1000x1000, almostthere.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] qtps

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 06:21:44 2020 No.4964436 >>4964425 i think you still don't know how hips work

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 06:24:19 2020 No.4964438 >>4964425 God, she's cute.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 06:35:16 2020 No.4964443 >>4964436 Not him, but I think you're retarded.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 07:12:07 2020 No.4964492 How do you draw small details with the overhand grip. Do you just not? It feels so hard to get any clear lines.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 07:17:42 2020 No.4964498 File: 119 KB, 340x258, 9fkd4f7u8hk51.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4964443 He's right the legs are attached like the drumstick hair on bubbles in pic related, it looks bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 07:27:29 2020 No.4964508 How do you simplify eyes when you're doing them too small to put much detail in? I've been practicing Proko's method but he doesn't explain how to fit them on a normal sketch that isn't a full value render.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 07:38:58 2020 No.4964523 File: 220 KB, 962x988, Screenshot_20201028-193633_Chrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am i going to make it out of beg?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 07:40:04 2020 No.4964525 >>4964498 I cannot unsee this you funny bastard lmao

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 08:00:01 2020 No.4964556
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>>4964320
>>4964324
That's it, I'M TURNING THE CHESSBOARD AROUND! Instead of focusing for hours on small details like the hand or the most flattering filter like crabs would love me to do, I'LL USE THESE HOURS TO EXPAND IT INTO A CHARACTER SHEET!
AND THIS IS THE RESULT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH EVERYTHING HURTS BUt I've never felt this much drawing power before aggggggggh

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 08:27:05 2020 No.4964577
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>>4964119
can anybody redline this?

I think it's better but it's still not quite right. I didn't want to bother doing the shading again until I get the drawing right.

Why does it still look so fucked up?

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 08:42:54 2020 No.4964588

>>4964577
Poster from above here, looks great to me mate, I can only feel like the arm looks a bit like a noodle BUT arms can look like that in real life so it's not wrong.
It's at the level where I think the rendering will hide any small mistakes since I can't even notice anything off to begin with, cool bike and pose.
Of course do wait another hour for one of the teachers to actually come and give critique but I like it enough already.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 08:48:32 2020 No.4964591 File: 743 KB, 1024x1821, bikergirl4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4964577 cant tell if better or worse

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 08:55:21 2020 No.4964598

>>4964577
her shoulder is broken, notice how the scapula and clavicle don't follow the shoulder.
I couldn't tell you how I would fix the drawing but this is what instantly stuck out to me as incorrect.

also the knee cap is just a random lump that doesn't look like anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:03:09 2020 No.4964605 >>4963372 Based

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:06:47 2020 No.4964609

I'm thinking of drawing doujin porn in order to make some pocket money in this 3rd world shithole, but I've only studied realistic stuff like a purist piece of shit.

Question 1, can I make 500~ US$ month if I get somewhat solid on this anime shit.
Question 2, where do I learn anime drawing ?

I speak Japanese and English, so I'm open to all resources. Thank you.22

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:10:22 2020 No.4964615
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studying fundamentals is a huge task. I keep hearing focused study? what is that? what is an example of an actual focused study?

So far I've just been feverishly drawing gestures and boxes.
I use construction too.

I'm a bit neurotic so I worry about picking up bad habits or learning something incorrectly...

especially since I have really bad ADD which makes it so that study time is incredibly mentally draining, so I don't want to waste it learning something that's going to hurt me in the long run.

The advantage of ADD is that I cannot sit still, so it is easy for me to furiously draw gestures and find that the whole day flew by.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:13:04 2020 No.4964618

>>4963547
I use ibispaintx so I'm just going to describe how to do it with it.

>add picture
Click yes to use extract line drawing filter
>adjust lines darkness till they look good
>erase imperfections and spots
>add new layers
>use drawing lines that are now made see-through as the top layer
>color

Rocketbook is a erasable sketchbook that works really well if you want to transfer line drawings to digital a lot.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:16:57 2020 No.4964620
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>>4964615
same guy, resized picture hihi.

I draw a lot of boxes freehand, whats the difference between learning the same mistake and not improving, and making the same mistake so many times that you are able to identify it? I rarely do vanishing point studying and instead try to draw furniture in my house as boxes, but I mostly do it from imagination, what could I reference anyway? a cube either looks correct or it doesn't its so simple how many mistakes could you make?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:22:34 2020 No.4964628 File: 203 KB, 1000x1097, rsz_img_2732.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4964615

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:24:50 2020 No.4964632 File: 80 KB, 700x933, thick-thighs-sexy-girl-023.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4964498 Nah, he's just a fucking retard, bro. In fact, you're kinda slow, too.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:25:14 2020 No.4964634

>>4963594
That is correct. Line weight will help the eyes. Use the lines thinnest and thickest spots to convey a curved surface for the eyes. So if you erase some of the thickness on the line under the middle of the eye, and on the top erase some of the middle and edge of the eyes closest to the center of the face, they will pop more. Their right eye top line is perfect because it conveys a curve by thinning to the end closest to the nose. That shows the way eyelashes lay so you can't see them gradually across the eye. Also never neglect to put a shine spot. Shinny eyes = instant soul. Also remember tilted eyes are about as real as the sideways vagina European sailors used to swear Asians had.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:25:52 2020 No.4964635 >>4964632 are you blind?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:28:59 2020 No.4964640 >>4963605 Soul

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:30:53 2020 No.4964641 File: 200 KB, 700x500, 1599876700943.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4964640 finally, after all these faces i get a (you), thank you <3

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:31:33 2020 No.4964643 >>4964632 Prime example for why faggits shouldn't critique art. If the bitch's not a stick figure, it's not anatomically correct.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:32:23 2020 No.4964644 >>4963684 That's great your having fun anon. Try to keep that love of drawing alive by applying what you learn to personal projects. It will keep you excited to see personal works made for fun turn out better and better as you apply what you learn

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:37:12 2020 No.4964650 >>4963372 Wrong, you have to develop the ability to discern between shit /beg/ advice and actual advice by competent artists.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:38:37 2020 No.4964654 >>4964436 This anon is right >>4964443 This anon is retarded

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:44:34 2020 No.4964658
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>>4964556
Manly hips. They need to be wider. Legs are also manly. They need to curve slightly and thighs and calves need to be thicker. Boobs are a touch too low. Love the color and wrinkles of the coat. Remember to bring detail down to the legs. Dont get lazy halfway though a piece. You're gonna make it in no time anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:49:27 2020 No.4964663 >>4964632 I've gotten better at ignoring bad advice on here. Especially considering I traced the reference for the pose and simply exaggerated some elements afterwards...

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:49:51 2020 No.4964664 >>4964658 Alright then I'll give it another go, yeah I was getting lazy and just about to let it end like that. So the anatomy really is different, who knew

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:51:57 2020 No.4964670

>>4964632
Hips and legs have subtle transition and fat is obvious

>>4964425
Harsh angles turn soft curves into chicken thighs. I really hope none of these arguing faggots are you anon and just coomers who are ngmis. You need to except your flaws to have any hope of making it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 09:56:11 2020 No.4964676 >>4964670 "Harsh angles turn soft curves into chicken thighs." I have no idea what any of this means. You keep talking about chicken wings.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:06:47 2020 No.4964699

>>4964670
"Harsh angles turn soft curves into chicken thighs."

I have no idea what any of this means. You keep talking about chicken wings.

I have no problem with taking critique. It just sounds fishy when it's the same anon saying the same thing over and over, now matter what I post. Just sounds like they have a personal problem.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:12:38 2020 No.4964711 File: 669 KB, 1091x903, cl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4964632 left is using your reference and doesnt looks like chicken legs, right does

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:23:05 2020 No.4964726 >>4964711 That's not my reference. What are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:28:01 2020 No.4964739 >>4964711 That's not my reference. What are you talking about? On top of that, that woman's legs DO look like "chicken legs".

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:30:10 2020 No.4964742
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>>4964663
You're a beg. You will always be beg. Normies with zero skils will fawn over you and you will always be backed against the wall screeching muh style at artists and critics while you draw angular harsh women with no distinction between soft fat and hard muscle and tiny baby arms.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:32:00 2020 No.4964745 File: 329 KB, 720x688, IMG_20201028_120307.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how we feelin

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:34:01 2020 No.4964748 >>4964711 That's not my reference. What are you talking about? On top of that, that woman's legs in the actual pic DO look like "chicken legs".

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:35:29 2020 No.4964752 >>4964748 what possesses a person to ask for criticism and then argue with every critical comment?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:37:27 2020 No.4964759 File: 1.39 MB, 941x1342, Untitled-1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4964587 draw through try not to draw limbs in perfect side view. you did fine with the arms tho careful with the neck/ traps area, not stylized enough

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:38:54 2020 No.4964763 >>4964748 the reference was the ginger chick i wasnt talking to you op i was talking to the guy defending chicken legs

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:39:04 2020 No.4964765 >>4964742 Gonna be honest. I like his bitch better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:40:58 2020 No.4964768 >>4964745 we feelin CUTE

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:46:35 2020 No.4964784 File: 58 KB, 816x640, 47c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why the fuck cant i post

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:47:59 2020 No.4964787 >>4964745 >floating anime head

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:48:14 2020 No.4964788
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>>4964784
Fine, fuck you gookmoot

Ive redraw this about 3 times and its getting kinda less shit, but its still shit.
I wanna try drawing really short people so I tried to draw Paimon, but for some reason I keep fucking up the arms
Maybe her poncho scarf is fucking me over too. Idk.
How can I make this pose less garbage?
Still very wip too, I know my linework sucks
Also ive never drawn anime before so this is different

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:51:35 2020 No.4964791 >>4964788 gesture>construction>rendering

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:10:27 2020 No.4964812 File: 97 KB, 584x700, imtiredafterthis.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] holy shit, so far it seems like iterative drawing works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ufz75UvHs

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:11:22 2020 No.4964814
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Stop trying to save this Dunning Kruger chicken leg, boomerang titty, eyes too close together drawing faggot, he even can't perceive the possiblity of his art being shit will remain perma/beg/ forever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:19:43 2020 No.4964828 File: 41 KB, 400x428, 1596988752208.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4964498 Fucking Kek, why you do this to me

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:26:40 2020 No.4964844
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>>4964742
>You're a beg. You will always be beg. Normies with zero skils will fawn over you and you will always be backed against the wall screeching muh style at artists and critics while you draw with no distinction between soft fat and hard muscle and tiny baby arms.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:26:47 2020 No.4964845 >>4964498 Kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:33:21 2020 No.4964854 >>4964425 >>4964844 Weren't you niggas arguing over this piece yesterday too god damn

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:37:54 2020 No.4964860
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>>4964425
>>4964443
Use your fucking eyes and you will see it's missing the gluteus medius, tensor facilitate, and is disproportionate where the greater trochanter meets the tendons and origins of the quads.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:48:17 2020 No.4964872 >>4964759 >don't put things in perfect side view in any view unless it is >Don't put detailed neck and traps, make it stylized in anime style I'll keep these in mind, thank you so much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:51:56 2020 No.4964880 >>4964860 I Gluteus mediused your moms lifeless corpse with my tensor faciliate last night lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:55:34 2020 No.4964883 File: 70 KB, 358x725, pose.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts on the pose? shes supposed to be floating

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 12:01:27 2020 No.4964890 >>4964860 >>4964443 >and is disproportionate where the greater trochanter meets the tendons and origins of the quads. For a second I thought this was a clever way to say he was off by 1

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 12:41:58 2020 No.4964956
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>>4964854
Now that he outed himself as a faggot that """""""""can't understand""""""""""" criticism about his art he doomed to get shat on until he fucks off or graduates /beg/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 12:56:43 2020 No.4964988 File: 163 KB, 895x903, 129.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 129 wip, will finish it up later

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 13:04:20 2020 No.4965008 File: 10 KB, 228x210, 1600063995850.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any advice on drawing men in poses that without making them look big gay? I drawn girls for so long i only know how draw feminine body language. Please help a nigga out.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 13:06:23 2020 No.4965014

Why is there not a routine for grinding fundies that's regularly posted in these threads like
>draw a bunch of lines an archs over each other for pages
>draw a bunch of boxes
>draw a bunch of circles
>draw a bunch of 30 second sketches with quickposes.com
>iterative draw [thing to work on] for a whole page
>then work on your actual project

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 13:17:49 2020 No.4965027
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I was trying to find the vanishing points of this tower and I fucked something up. Does anyone know what I did wrong? I basically found the inner square (orange), based the vanishing points off that, then got the outer square (white) and used it to draw a circle. Everything looked fine until I realized it all fucks up on the bottom part of the square (circled in pink). What did I fuck up?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 13:18:30 2020 No.4965030 File: 180 KB, 597x900, 2-defense-tower-ruin-daniel-poloha.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4965027 Original pic

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 13:21:01 2020 No.4965037

>>4964956
The suffering we shall all now be subjected to.

>>4964425
You need to listen to critique like
>>4964844
>>4964860
Do not go down the self-satisfied beginner's route. Motherfucker, other anons are going out of their ways to do draw-overs and you're just gonna keep saying, "nah, I'M GOOD"

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 13:24:35 2020 No.4965043 >>4965027 >>4965030 the base of the tower is above the horizon

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 13:32:43 2020 No.4965052 File: 297 KB, 1024x1821, bikergirl6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4964591 this is probably the best i can do as far as lines and flats. it's good enough for me. now to do the shading and highlights and the background.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 13:33:58 2020 No.4965057 >>4965043 How do you know that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 13:38:30 2020 No.4965062 >>4965052 Please move that thumb away from the slide

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 13:52:39 2020 No.4965076 >>4964883 based beg

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 13:59:16 2020 No.4965086 Anyone have any good reference photos for something I can use to show off 2/3 point perspective drawing of a "room" or "rooms" for a portfolio requirement?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 14:05:16 2020 No.4965093 >>4965062 Lol yeah, second hand should be gripping from below.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 14:10:36 2020 No.4965099 >>4965076 yes, i am on beg

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 14:40:13 2020 No.4965145
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So I figured if I found 2 perspective lines they would converge onto the vanishing points + horizon line, but the lines are going way off the page. What am I fucking up? Is it possible for this shit to be so far off the page? related >>4965027 >>4965030

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 14:41:56 2020 No.4965149 File: 114 KB, 806x508, 20201028_143417.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I haven't done a finished piece in over a month. Just tons of doodles like this. I think I'm getting into a comfort zone rut and need to start doing hard stuff again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 14:53:04 2020 No.4965169 >>4965145 the minor axis on your ellipse is too tall. also a round crumbling structure is not a great thing to practice your perspective on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 14:55:37 2020 No.4965174 >>4964663 this post is bait right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 14:58:45 2020 No.4965179 >>4965174 Of course not. There are plenty of retarded people who stop by here to ask for feedback and ignore anything that isn’t a head pat

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 15:04:07 2020 No.4965196 >>4964663 post reference

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 15:05:40 2020 No.4965202

>>4965169
I'm practicing it on round structures because that's the part I'm really getting fucked up on. Right now I'm trying to just figure out the outline of the tower and fill in the parts that are missing off the top.The green line was just tracing the stones so I could follow them easier. I guess picking a blurry ass picture ontop of a cobblestone tower didn't help.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 15:07:01 2020 No.4965207 File: 1.99 MB, 2117x2902, 1602339677645.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4965179 there's normal retards, and then there's claiming tracing and muh style as a defense. it just can't be real.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 15:12:53 2020 No.4965218 >>4965202 tracing the cobblestones around is drawing part of an ellipse anon. you fucked up on it though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 15:17:37 2020 No.4965224 >>4965218 It was just a guide so I knew which stones to keep in mind. I'm not even at the part where I can draw ellipses yet. I don't even know where the correct vanishing points/horizon is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 15:21:21 2020 No.4965231 >>4965207 Kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 15:36:02 2020 No.4965250 File: 1.58 MB, 2383x1417, capybathno.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First full-color piece I was able to finish in a single day (I'm a recovering perfectionist)

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 15:37:00 2020 No.4965252 >>4965250 This makes me want to chill in a tub of hot water. My apts 68 degrees atm.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 16:31:11 2020 No.4965330 File: 2.16 MB, 8000x2000, tower persp 5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] There's no way these perspective lines are right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 16:38:36 2020 No.4965342 File: 161 KB, 1300x863, 48350537-ruines-du-ch%C3%A2teau-saris-tour-de-d%C3%A9fense-.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4965330 Why not? Photo is definitely taken from below

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 16:42:49 2020 No.4965344 >>4965342 Woa shit. I just didn't think they would be THAT exaggerated. How would you even work with perspective lines that far off from the image? I imagine if I printed out this image the vanishing points wouldn't even fit on my desk.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 16:45:00 2020 No.4965347

Okay so I've been sketching on a notebook thats probably like 4x6. Many of the problems I've been having apperently stem from the fact that I don't have enough space or the fine motor skill for it. I tried drawing on a tablet and the work (while still shit and beg) finally had the level of detail I expected because I was able to zoom in on parts I wanted. Like an eye is no longer three 2mm long pen strokes, now an eye can be multiple 6 inch strokes because I can zoom in on it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 16:57:39 2020 No.4965367 File: 853 KB, 1024x1821, bikergirl7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] update.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 16:59:24 2020 No.4965370 i just want to get better dudes i tried my hardest than human limitations happened and i'm just reminded of my other limitations after

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:01:36 2020 No.4965375 File: 838 KB, 1024x1821, bikergirl7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4963343 update and possibly final

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:05:34 2020 No.4965385 https://youtu.be/soocHCrLjsI 42:01 Seemingly no one here respectd this

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:10:10 2020 No.4965392

>>4965375
She’s holding the gun all retarded.
The abs and the clavicle are misaligned but there’s no other referent to show her torso as twisting. Her left thigh (from viewers perspective) is bigger than her right by a lot but her left calf is smaller than her right. The front arm is all sorts of fucked up.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:10:22 2020 No.4965394

>>4965385
Tower perspective autist here. I wasn't trying to come off as argumentive. Just was trying to clear the air on what my goals and reasoning for doing things were. I guess it's hard to say "I wasn't doing that I was doing this" through a text format with no context of tone.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:14:12 2020 No.4965400

>>4965394
I’m talking about the mentality present here in general and on this board. It’s rare for people to accept harsh criticism and it leads to the “pyw” fest. This board is like working together with other students, but some treat it as if they’re looking for teachers

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:15:07 2020 No.4965403 File: 249 KB, 800x800, Comic.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4965027 >>4965030 >>4965145 >>4965330 >>4965342 this tower is in 3pt perspective.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:18:01 2020 No.4965412
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Drafted by tracing three separate pictures, concerned that it will turn out worse on wood (which i plan to transfer the pattern using panel pins and a hammer). Should I just go for some random geometric shapes instead of trying to send a message (it's for a bat shelter volunteer group)

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:18:52 2020 No.4965415 >>4965403 I gave up on that top vanishing point when I saw just how high it was. Thought it couldn't be. I guess I learned something today.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:19:51 2020 No.4965417 File: 1.40 MB, 3000x2000, architect practice.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] One day I will be a master architect.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:31:50 2020 No.4965438 >>4965417 let me just tell you right now that you wont

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:33:04 2020 No.4965441 >>4965417 begone fatposter!

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:34:23 2020 No.4965446

>>4965417
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>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:36:57 2020 No.4965451 >>4965438 I am studying the masters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwlqIDJSSE0

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:43:14 2020 No.4965462 >>4963728 head and neck looks a little too big. her right leg seems dislocated. and her left knee looks like a tumor.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:45:09 2020 No.4965463 >>4965417 Architect has nothing to do with vanishing points, they work on orthographic dimensions and 1 dimension floor plans, retard. They only ever work on 3D visualization to get a look, and even then it's done in 3D.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:48:36 2020 No.4965468 >>4963874 >never gonna fuck an amputee one-san why live?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:48:40 2020 No.4965469 >>4965463 It's a meme

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:52:27 2020 No.4965473 >>4963874 the human body shouldn't have straight contours like those on the leg. it does not have contours at all, but you know what I mean.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:56:47 2020 No.4965482 >>4963891 >>4963874 wtf anon?! posting their picture is a little too much

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 18:09:50 2020 No.4965505 >>4964136 if it is not pigment on the cave wall you should be ashamed of yourself!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 18:18:42 2020 No.4965516 File: 29 KB, 742x648, 41342352323.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the problem with the arms? Seems kinda wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 18:20:26 2020 No.4965519 >>4964860 >tensor facilitate If you're going to go out of your way to use anatomical terms, you should at least make the effort to get them right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 18:24:38 2020 No.4965531 Jesus christ. 5 minutes into browsing this thread and I'm remembering why I hate art "communities" You're all fucking faggots and I hate every single one of you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 18:31:15 2020 No.4965549 >>4965008 I have the same problem anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 18:31:23 2020 No.4965550 >>4965516 left forearm

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 18:32:54 2020 No.4965552 >>4965014 probably because it does not work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 18:36:02 2020 No.4965559 File: 1.58 MB, 922x1137, draw1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] did this to try and visualise not only the shapes but the 3d form beneath them, not sure if i'll ever be satisfied with it tho pls critiq?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 18:54:22 2020 No.4965592 >>4963372 Pyw

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 18:54:24 2020 No.4965593 File: 324 KB, 1588x1050, asdf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried drawing a hulk from imagination. Please tell how I can improve.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 18:55:04 2020 No.4965596 >>4965593 fuck capeshit and keep drawing supermutants

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 18:57:55 2020 No.4965601 >>4965593 Give him a peg leg. But fr don't avoid feet. You are avoiding drawing feet. Stop that. Draw feet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 19:11:43 2020 No.4965627 >>4965086 bls

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 19:30:28 2020 No.4965663 >>4965593 find a reference for that running pose and try again

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 19:39:24 2020 No.4965687 File: 852 KB, 1200x1600, help.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] help why does this look like shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 20:11:56 2020 No.4965728 >>4964812 where do i first learn to draw features like this tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 20:25:22 2020 No.4965743 >>4964556 HEY. ARE YOU SOUL ANON???? like. the ASTRA ANON??? HI!!!

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 20:38:21 2020 No.4965763
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I really need to get a tablet, did this study with a mouse and that was hard
Been watching the marco bucci head thing and am I understanding it? Brow, jaw and cheek, later ill watch chin

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 20:49:25 2020 No.4965775 >>4965763 Do people recommend others to use a mouse if they don't have a tablet over pencil and paper?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 20:50:19 2020 No.4965776 File: 105 KB, 442x640, 5722D21F-7D8A-4B31-BC81-7BABD464863B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Being able to shade with your pen instead of it bleeding everywhere is actually pretty helpful.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 20:54:05 2020 No.4965779 >>4965775 Nope, I did this because I wanted to be able to overlay with my reference, Ill post the reference and the study on paper when i finish it yet i wont get the measurements as exactly as i did on here

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 20:54:35 2020 No.4965781 >>4965775 you'll end up having to relearn how to draw anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 20:55:55 2020 No.4965784 >>4965781 simply epic anon

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 20:59:50 2020 No.4965790
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Decided to take a break from hard studying and have some fun with a 3D model I had lying around. Tried using stuff I learned from Vipplu and other sources.

How am I doing in terms of construction + using shadows to convey form? Remember, this was just a fun thing I did using a very stylized model to practice construction, and I'm aware that this figure has scuffed anatomy.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 21:02:22 2020 No.4965794
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>>4965149
Trying to get out of my rut. Going back to figure drawing and charcoal. I know I really fucked up the anatomy.

How do you keep the tip of your charcoal from dissolving?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 21:04:14 2020 No.4965795 >>4965794 >How do you keep the tip of your charcoal from dissolving? You use a charcoal pencil if you want fine lines.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 21:05:45 2020 No.4965796 >>4963407 >>4964075 Shadows/hands/clothes are done ten times better than proportions Grade your proportions by yourself and give final grade

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 21:12:26 2020 No.4965803

>>4965794
>How do you keep the tip of your charcoal from dissolving?
If you're not a turbosperg classical artist who's determined to do shit the hard way, try Carbon pencils. They're pretty much halfway between charcoal and graphite and my personal favorite drawing medium. They produce silky smooth lines and deep, dark blacks just like charcoal while not being so brittle. They smudge just like charcoal as well, so you can get some very soft tonal effects if that's what you're going for. It's really good stuff. Underrated.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 21:32:31 2020 No.4965824

>>4964098
I don't recommend attempting to accurately render something until you've mastered (mastered, mind you) the fundamentals. Until you get to that level, you can still use photographs, but just to get an idea for a pose, not to copy. In my opinion, your drawing should be 90%+ from imagination and only really "inspired" by the reference material. You should be completely able and comfortable drawing skillfully from imagination before all else. Once you'd completely mastered the basics though, then it's okay to start worrying about accuracy if that's what you want to do. I know that there are certain artists, mostly illustrators, who might claim the opposite, and that's why their work always looks flat and simply lacking in comparison to the true old masters.

TLDR; Yes, you're wasting your time trying to copy.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 21:48:28 2020 No.4965840
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Really new here. I tried drawing anime for the first time. Was fun. I think im getting better, I drew the pose from imagination, just used construction a bunch and looked at my own body a bunch.

Probably wont draw more anime though, just did it because how the character is

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 21:50:52 2020 No.4965841

>>4965824
youre retarded, breaking down reference photos into simple shapes is amazing practice, or using reference to learn lighting, basically you should just always be using reference and trhough drawing with it so much you will build up a visual library in yoru head and you can start to draw from imagintion, drawing from imagination is basically just remembering past picture youve drawn as reference, youre referencing a reference

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 21:52:46 2020 No.4965842 >>4965841 Whatever you say, bro.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 21:52:55 2020 No.4965843 File: 40 KB, 622x623, 2020-10-28 21_52_29-Window.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 21:55:27 2020 No.4965849 File: 500 KB, 4292x5196, brrrrruuuu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] would need critisim help

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 21:56:23 2020 No.4965850 >>4965849 less creepy would be nice

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 21:58:56 2020 No.4965855 >>4965850 howwwwww

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 22:00:09 2020 No.4965860 >>4965849 she looks like the demon in my dreams

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 22:03:36 2020 No.4965867 >>4965843 Scrimping on the hands, are you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 22:05:39 2020 No.4965869 >>4965849 >>4965855 I like the Tidepods in her hair. Not even joking, it made me chuckle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 22:14:34 2020 No.4965877 File: 16 KB, 405x405, kot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4965840 use a ref, the hands are too small and the fingers look like sausages and you can't see the knee in her legs nor the forms of her feets also banana hair

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 22:18:09 2020 No.4965884 >>4965687 Can't put my finger on it, but the values don't look right. also loomis

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 22:21:03 2020 No.4965888 >>4965869 owo tenk >>4965860 reeee is it the eyes;

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 22:22:25 2020 No.4965889 >>4965687 >>4965884 It's that there are random sources of light on top of the base drawing severely lacking fundamentals

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 22:37:19 2020 No.4965908
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Trying to draw Chino again after obsessively looking a tutorials, trying to copy other's art and using all of my power to do this again.

What did I do wrong and what do I need to do to fix it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 22:42:56 2020 No.4965917 >>4965877 Thanks, hand size is always rough for me. Banana hair is part of the characters design and I drew a line and shade bit for the knees. Its hard to find a ref for "floating girl"

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 22:45:40 2020 No.4965921

>>4965908
the problem i have when appraising very stylized drawings like these is that they are so removed from reality that I don't know what is it that you have decided that's right and wrong. I don't know what you're aiming for here.

For example, she has no nose. Also her right hand's fingers look really flat and thin, like a piece of paper. But I don't know if you did these things on purpose or not.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 22:46:24 2020 No.4965924

>>4965908
It looks infinitely better then the first thing you post.
The only glaring issue I have is that her left shoulder looks pretty dislocated.
Theres minor issues like fundamentals and rendering, etc but that stuff just comes with time and practice
Definite improvement

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 22:48:18 2020 No.4965931 File: 396 KB, 900x771, WarriorPunch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4965593 Read Key to Drawing with me brother. Imo, the pose is a little stiff.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 22:49:45 2020 No.4965934

>>4965921
Not OR but anime styles usually only use a tiny bit of shading for the nose, or just dont even bother putting it there because its not necessary to the style.
Flat hands is just lack of practice drawing hands, hands are hard. Guy just probably wants to draw his waifu or some shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 23:02:54 2020 No.4965957 >>4965931 swolebro senpai, can you help be out with my question >>4965008

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 23:10:39 2020 No.4965973 >>4965763 help

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 23:14:43 2020 No.4965979
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>>4965917
>>4965877
did some quick touch ups in photoshop with what you said, looks a bit better. Ill probably it leave it now and move on. I like it, but I want to do better

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 23:15:43 2020 No.4965981 File: 168 KB, 748x1280, 221400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 23:30:22 2020 No.4966007 File: 493 KB, 1000x1000, 4C4CBA1C-3113-4F9C-83AB-F1108348B031.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this coming along okay? might play with the values some such as lightening the dark side

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 23:48:04 2020 No.4966023 File: 2.53 MB, 1890x2835, bonewalls1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] does anybody have a prompt because I'm drawin a blank rn

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 23:48:40 2020 No.4966026 File: 611 KB, 1013x1418, 10-27-20.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 23:51:28 2020 No.4966031

>>4965931
>Read Key to Drawing with me brother.
im reading Framed Perspective and the Scott Robertson meme books rn for perspective gains. Is Key to Drawing good? what aspect of drawing does it teach?

>Imo, the pose is a little stiff.
thanks. yeah i think you're right, yours looks better, with the curving torso it looks more fluid and better

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 00:04:24 2020 No.4966051 >>4966007 you need to have more balls and go for the darker values

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 00:13:09 2020 No.4966067 >>4966031 It's my first book. 20 pages in. It makes sense to me. Gonna move to Bammes and Norling after finishing this. >>4965008 Imo, It's the shoulder/hip ratio. Big hip, round glutes make male characters look feminine.

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 00:13:24 2020 No.4966068
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>>4965979
you can study anatomy to improve your..anatomy or you can use refs and skip that obvioulsy finding a ref that matchs your idea it's going to be hard but you can use different refs for each part that you are having troubles with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 00:13:27 2020 No.4966069 File: 281 KB, 1108x792, bawx.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] am i doing the box construction shit right

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 00:14:06 2020 No.4966071 >>4966069 you need to know anatomy bro.....or use an anatomy ref along with it

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 00:15:42 2020 No.4966076 >>4965957 >>4966067 I forgot to tag you.

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 00:17:20 2020 No.4966081
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>>4965776
Yeah, so even though I love fountain pens, regular ball point allows for lawyers of ink as opposed to splotches when drawing within 2 square inches.

Feedback would be nice. Sorry to repost. I drew more faces and I think they were way better than the original fountain pen ones. Would like feedback.

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 00:28:14 2020 No.4966093
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more of a technical Q but still related to drawing, how do I draw pleasant repeating textures without obvious seams?
this is for ground textures in a game

also the memory and size limitations, and more complex issues like performance drops due to swapping texture pages in the video memory, are really screwing up my focus on just choosing a certain size of ground texture and drawing it

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 00:30:55 2020 No.4966097 >>4966093 It's just about lining up the edges. So draw the very edge of it, cut it in half and then reverse it to the other side. Fill in the rest however you want.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 00:33:25 2020 No.4966102 >>4966097 what about nicely blending from one type of ground to another (ex. grass tiles adjacent to dirt tiles)? how big should my repeating sprites be so the seams aren't too obvious? how do I balance sprite size with video memory limitations?

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 00:37:26 2020 No.4966107
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I’m back to having this problem where unless I use a ridiculously inappropriate brush I can’t do a sketch. I start fucking around with details and lose track of the larger shapes if I use anything thinner.

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 01:03:33 2020 No.4966123
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>>4966102
You can't really do that in a vacuum. You need to know what the context of the situation is I think. The best context-free example I can think is Valve creating 2 layered textures. So grass to dirt would have grass ontop and dirt on the bottom. It would look like grass at first, then the map makers could effectively paint the transition part by using a brush that would add transparency to the top layer. This is getting into shaders and all that now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 01:05:52 2020 No.4966126 >>4966093 >seams Use software with a tiling or wrapping mode that lets you draw over the edge

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 01:07:19 2020 No.4966128 File: 88 KB, 414x640, 9DBE2DE2-E55C-4A0E-B910-F844990A2E29.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4966107 And then after that I can do a proper sketch. I feel like I shouldn’t have to need that first step, though

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 01:07:45 2020 No.4966129 File: 59 KB, 658x662, mfw.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4966123 this is now far outside the scope of /ic/

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 01:09:10 2020 No.4966131 >>4965763 fucking thanks beg

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 01:13:21 2020 No.4966136 >>4966129 It's not really a crazy hard concept. Imagine you have 2 layers in your image editor and you used your eraser on the top layer to let the bottom layer show through. That's literally how it works in hammer.

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 01:21:11 2020 No.4966149

>>4966136
well that part makes sense
if I could have unlimited textures, and make them as big as I want to avoid repetition, I could make my game look as good as I want

but all game assets end up on texture pages, which must be swapped in and out as graphics are drawn, and too many swaps will lag and crash the game
and there is an upper limit to how much you can fit in video memory too

and the ground textures are only a small part of the overall graphics (there are buildings, trees, character animations, etc)
so I am left totally confused about how many ground textures I can safely draw and how big they can be, without lagging the game or not leaving enough space in video memory for all the other art assets

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 01:49:56 2020 No.4966173

>>4966149
It sounds like you're brute forcing the problem. You just take a picture of grass. Mirror it horizontally, then take that and mirror it vertically. Then you have a seamless repeating texture. Photoshop probably also has tools to do it better. There has to be countless guides on it, this is like step 1 of making a game. You don't need an infinitely sized texture, and there are better ways to create the illusion of such a thing through shaders.

You prob already know about agdg and gdg but just incase: >>>/vg/gdg
Also the 3d board would probably be more helpful to: >>>/3/catalog

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 01:56:42 2020 No.4966185 File: 937 KB, 1861x1688, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] please critique, i wanted to add more gesture but there's not much I can do with this pose.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 02:11:44 2020 No.4966196 >>4966067 >>4966076 thanks man

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 02:21:52 2020 No.4966206 >>4966051 hm yeah i stuck with it this far. i just think it would look more balanced

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 02:32:02 2020 No.4966218 File: 2.61 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_3679.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] first time painting did a pic of my cat

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 02:51:25 2020 No.4966247
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>>4966185
the scaling and proportions of the characters are so strange that the girl on the left looks like a giant child with tits rather than a waifu, also the foreshortening isn't exaggerated enough to be believable

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 03:09:38 2020 No.4966270 File: 81 KB, 712x1424, Oeedgcw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] work feels

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 03:17:19 2020 No.4966278 >>4966247 sorry could you tell me what you did to it, so I can fix it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 03:31:08 2020 No.4966291 File: 202 KB, 900x771, LOOMISED.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4966270 LOOMIS-ED

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 03:34:47 2020 No.4966295 >>4966291 gmi

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 03:40:56 2020 No.4966302

>>4966278
The big changes I made where to most done to the girl on the left. I shrunk the head since they were absolutely massive (mainly the pigtail girl on the left but alittle on the right as well) pushed the hand and feet forshortening more exgerated to make it feel more 3dimensional, lenghtening the shins since they felt too short for the characters. and scale up the girls overall size on the right since she's leading the girl in back so get a sense of implied perspective. not a bad picture overall ( I would push pigtail knee out futher but i need sleep). My best advice to you is make sure you're flipping your canvas and taking breaks often so you can catch yourself making mistaskes in real time and revist anime propotions because at the 4.0- 4.5 figures youve drawn is far too stumpy and kid like for the bodies you drew.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 03:55:21 2020 No.4966321 >>4966291 This cringe guy who draws dicks on everything is why 4 ints left this thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 03:57:16 2020 No.4966324 >>4966302 ok thanks you so much

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 03:58:57 2020 No.4966328 File: 193 KB, 641x779, 2020-10-29 03_58_42-Window.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4965867 >>4965843 Hands are hard

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 04:03:38 2020 No.4966335 >>4966321 > 4 ints where did you get the number?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 04:15:17 2020 No.4966343 >>4966321 It's suck right? guess me and you will NGMI without their help.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 04:51:57 2020 No.4966383 >>4966328 Mori!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 05:09:47 2020 No.4966407 this is fucking gold i love it!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 05:13:28 2020 No.4966411 >>4966291 i fucking love it youre doing gods work

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 05:26:32 2020 No.4966420
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Could it have looked better? Could the pose be more interesting? Could I have worked i this longer? Could the design look better? Could anything I’ve studied so far actually been used for this? All Yes but I’ve been so exhausted and my hand hurts so this was something lite and quick. Whatever it doesn’t matter

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 05:27:39 2020 No.4966423 File: 1.78 MB, 1400x1400, dawn and rosa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] decided to color this in, I don't really know how to color so I copied some beach pictures

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 05:43:35 2020 No.4966434 >>4966423 Are they falling?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 06:30:50 2020 No.4966470 File: 1.05 MB, 1400x1400, paintover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4966423

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 07:01:23 2020 No.4966488 >>4966470 How on earth did you color my drawing without my layers?

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 07:34:19 2020 No.4966520

>>4964812
I dunno about this, he says not to use a reference, but then the first image you draw pretty much becomes your reference. Wouldn't it be better to try and draw the same reference 20 times than just trying to arbitrarily decide if your heads are better or worse?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 07:37:06 2020 No.4966524 >>4965375 move on to another drawing man you're polishing a turd at this point

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 07:44:04 2020 No.4966535 >>4966007 well this is better than the harp one even if they do look like the same person

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 08:22:25 2020 No.4966570

>>4965392
i think your critiques are good but this was ike the 4th draft of this i posted. had you said it before i spent hours cleaning up the linework i would try to fix some of that, but i have to move on. im not redoing it all again. Just wanted to say thanks and I'll try to keep tangents like that in mind on my next drawing.

>>4966524
I agree that's why I said it's the final version. I'm kind of sick of looking at it anyway.

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 08:25:01 2020 No.4966575
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>>4965687
The face is great and your rendering is very very nice. The piece feels very unfinished tough you did not render shadows on the clothing in many places. Also a lot of the curves on bracelets, collars, stockings, belt etc. feel flat they need to actually go around the body's form to look like they are actually covering the shape. As other Anon mentioned it some more accurate anatomy can help ,especially on the midriff area and shoulders and the light sources could be a e bit better defined that will immediately help the form.

Keep it up your rendering is great.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 09:16:28 2020 No.4966622 >>4966420 I am confused at the leg. Can you make it look clearer?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 09:51:48 2020 No.4966663 >>4966622 Thank you anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 10:12:56 2020 No.4966701 >>4966520 because experimenting and making decisions like that is fun and good practice.

Anonymous Thu Oct 29 10:56:00 2020 No.4966778
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>>4966420
I dig the color scheme but as the other anon said the leg looks weird. The pose doesnt really tell much but i get that his some stoic fighter. Are you using water color btw?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 11:24:22 2020 No.4966832 PYW

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 11:25:17 2020 No.4966834 >>4966832 who are you replying to?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 11:37:56 2020 No.4966854 File: 1.06 MB, 2800x2100, IMG_20201029_163320.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] studying some trunks

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 11:38:38 2020 No.4966856 File: 830 KB, 2099x2454, IMG_20201029_162112.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4966854 trying to apply what i learned to something somewhat more fun

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 11:47:58 2020 No.4966871 >>4966856 promising

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 12:01:07 2020 No.4966909 >>4966856 he gonna cut off his peepee.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 12:05:44 2020 No.4966917 >>4966856 >no benis coward

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 12:09:01 2020 No.4966925 File: 233 KB, 918x962, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] drew this a long time ago, fixed it up recently.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 12:11:53 2020 No.4966928 >>4965796 I know. I'll give priportions a 1. So final grade would be a 4 or 5? Anyway, anything else you can tell me to improve apart from fixing my proportions?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 12:14:44 2020 No.4966933 File: 307 KB, 640x871, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tell me where I fucked, could you please red line too, This pose is kinda hard

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 12:14:51 2020 No.4966934 >>4966856 i dig the face

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 12:18:32 2020 No.4966943 File: 6 KB, 240x193, 1579955229852.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >focus hard to draw a characters facial expression >unconsciously do the same expression irl is this autism

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 12:19:58 2020 No.4966948 File: 291 KB, 480x640, f2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4966832

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 12:21:18 2020 No.4966953 >too retarded and too little attention span to not be /BEG/ Anyone else have this feel. Own the damn books and fuck around a lot but don't actually have the attention span or discipline to actually learn correctly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 12:21:31 2020 No.4966955 >>4966943 get a vanity mirror and itll be even easier :)

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 12:21:53 2020 No.4966956 File: 182 KB, 1000x779, ambush.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4965824 >>4965841 >>4964272 Damn. Now i am in doubt.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 12:45:52 2020 No.4966989 >>4966778 Yes I am. I typically do digital even if I suck at it but it’s honestly very easy to get heavy handed with that and if the screen is small forget you use more than your wrist Watercolor is nice though. It a character of mine

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 12:51:54 2020 No.4966993 >>4966953 Go download videos

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 13:05:07 2020 No.4967019 >>4965763 THANKS /BEG/

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 13:27:48 2020 No.4967073 >>4963343 hey anons, what's a good way to start digital drawing? I have a simple wacom tablet and a good computer, what is a free program I could use to draw? also what are some good exercises for getting used to digital.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 13:48:11 2020 No.4967107 new >>4967106 >>4967106 >>4967106

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 29 17:33:57 2020 No.4967551 >>4966575 thank you so much anon i am indebted to you. do you want my firstborn?

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