/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.4958023]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

1.-screenshot the image and post that instead

2.-change camera capture settings to something smaller

3.-send to computer and resize in picresize.com

There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it.

Previous Thread:>>4952767

[Anonymous No.4958040]

Any feedback?

[Anonymous No.4958078]

3D

[Anonymous No.4958086]

and some figure stuff, forget feet.

[Anonymous No.4958088]

Persepecive practice.
Do you guys know ways of getting good at perspective or doing it effectively?
I sometimes use the coil method.

[Anonymous No.4958091]

>>4958040
I'd add some line weight

[Anonymous No.4958095]

>>4958040
Unless you are aiming for rumiko takeshi proportions the pelvis is a about half of heads length shorter than it should be

[I AM GONNA COOOOOOM No.4958112]

>>4958040
>>4958086
>>4958088
R8

[Anonymous No.4958124]

>>4958078
learn2ellipse

[Anonymous No.4958127]

>>4958112
I thing you should make his non jacking off arm less muscular and skinny so the jacking off arm looks bigger in comparison.

[I AM GONNA COOOOOOM No.4958134]

>>4958127
Thanks anon :) but I like my men with MEAT.

[Anonymous No.4958138]

>>4958023
Still need to work on my studies but for now, here it is.

[Anonymous No.4958146]

Need to know where to start with the following
>construction
Skull or loomis head? marco bucci or loomis?
>3D shapes
???
>RIGHT side or keys to drawing?
>eviston or peter han
>Vilppu figure drawing for later or now?
>Body construction, now or later? what?

[Anonymous No.4958179]

Master study for inktober

[Anonymous No.4958227]

drew this for /co/.
It's without reference so I don't know what's what.
Anything I need to work on?
a redline would be nice

[Anonymous No.4958230]

>>4958227
here's another version

[Anonymous No.4958232]

>>4958227
>>4958230
I really love it

[Anonymous No.4958236]

[Anonymous No.4958238]

>>4958232
thanks, anon

[I AM GONNA COOOOOOM No.4958246]

>>4958227
>>4958230
>>4958232
>>4958238
I am not sorry

[Anonymous No.4958250]

Anyone else think the coom guy is weird

[Anonymous No.4958260]

>>4958246
Just drew this just for (you)

[Anonymous No.4958267]

Why is this so hard it's just some basic shapes

[I AM GONNA COOOOOOM No.4958272]

>>4958260
GMI Energy :)

[Anonymous No.4958276]

>>4958236
Powerful...

[Anonymous No.4958284]

>>4958236
Cute Gura and Amelia drawing
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4958299]

painting is just painful, I made the greyscale values dark and crap but I can never get to look not de saturated.

[Anonymous No.4958300]

Why are ellipses so JUSTIng

Feels like I have Parkinson as I practice them

[Anonymous No.4958318]

I've just know this exact drawing could look marvelous if I found the right technique, wish me luck.
Maybe it'd be for the best if I change the painting style and go with stronger colors

[Anonymous No.4958366]

heh

[Anonymous No.4958368]

>>4958366
I love this, anon. Great character and well drawn too, maybe the foreshortening on the arm with the hand holding a flame could use some work but I can't imagine how to do it better so just take a mental note, she cute and magical.

[Anonymous No.4958370]

>>4958368
Yeah hands and limbs foreshortening are my bigie issues, need to work on that. Glad that you like it.

[Anonymous No.4958376]

>>4958318
The guy with the Astra OC. You improved a lot there. Grat.

[Anonymous No.4958382]

>>4958318
>>4958376
Yeah I went to take notes about my first painting back in April since I also had the problem of it being too soft, and I think I subconsciously merged them on this piece kek.

[Anonymous No.4958394]

why does this look so terrible

[Anonymous No.4958396]

>>4958246
>>4958112

How long have you been drawing for?

[Anonymous No.4958413]

>>4958394
God damnit i was about to go to sleep and now i saw this spooky ass ghost face imprinted into my mind

[I AM GONNA COOOOOOM No.4958444]

>>4958396
- 2016-2017: I mainly copy/redraw manga/game characters that I like - 1,3 pics/week
- 2018-2019: blue collar, 9 to 5 job, have no time to draw
- 2020: NEET life. Start copying pages from Katsuya Terada's Rakugaking
- Never touch any books/courses

[Anonymous No.4958448]

>>4958394
Because you are in between symbol drawing and drawing what you see. Try thinking in terms of shapes and angles, negative space, and just measure shit out. Dont think of an eye as an eye. If anything just think of the form of the eyeball and eyelid. Thats why youre going into uncanny valley spooky ass shit territory

[Anonymous No.4958478]

>>4958366
WHERE IS THE EYE LEVEL SUPPOSED TO BE? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.4958560]

guess what kind of asian

[Anonymous No.4958583]

>>4958560
Non of these girls look asian.

[Anonymous No.4958584]

>>4958560
Japanese and Filipino

[Anonymous No.4958586]

>>4958560
Cauc

[Anonymous No.4958587]

>>4958584
>>4958586
Baka Gaijin

[Anonymous No.4958604]

>>4958227
>>4958230
Not beg

[Anonymous No.4958611]

>>4958444
how did you learn anatomy?

[Anonymous No.4958612]

>>4958586
keked

[I AM GONNA COOOOOOM No.4958663]

>>4958611
> Jojo Aztec sacrifice => Evil croc shaman
I just google arm, leg anatomy...nothing special

[Anonymous No.4958679]

>>4958112
Based

[Anonymous No.4958688]

>>4958112
Based coomposting, nice work anon!
Will coom out mine daily coompost too.

[I AM GONNA COOOOOOM No.4958704]

>>4958679
>>4958688
Tell me if you want the black white one

[Anonymous No.4958722]

What do I have to fix?

[Anonymous No.4958750]

>>4958040
the position of the left leg is pretty awkward, even in photos it would look weird (too short or too long)

[Anonymous No.4958757]

>>4958112
like the other anon said, if you made only the right arm muscular, and everything else skinny it would be funnier

[Anonymous No.4958768]

>>4958236
the expression are pretty nice

[Anonymous No.4958789]

>>4958722
your linework needs more variation.

also maybe you need to suggest musculature on the limbs a little more kinda like what you did with the left lower arm

[Anonymous No.4958801]

Am I doing perspective properly?

[Anonymous No.4958812]

pls give feedback

[I AM GONNA COOOOOOM No.4958878]

>>4958127
>>4958757
It does look funnier :)

[Anonymous No.4958910]

drawfagging on /v/ is fun

[Anonymous No.4958915]

>>4958812
Why does the dog have a boner
Why isnt it positioned where the sheath is supposed to be

[Anonymous No.4958970]

>>4958910
OOOWAAAAAAAAAAAOOWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.4958974]

>>4958236
blog?

[Anonymous No.4958981]

I want to get into making my own comic book

[Anonymous No.4958989]

>>4958023

[Anonymous No.4959032]

126

[Anonymous No.4959051]

I have no idea what she should be wearing. Ideas anyone?

[Anonymous No.4959069]

I used a proper tool for line, my fierst line tho. Hope it looks better now.

[Anonymous No.4959075]

>>4959051
ears necklace

[Anonymous No.4959096]

>>4959069
Is that supposed to be ryuko or an oc wearing her clothes? I think you’d benefit from using more references. What you could immediately improve is the back of her head and hair in front of her ear

[Anonymous No.4959102]

>>4959069
What tool?

[Anonymous No.4959106]

>>4959096
Nicely noted, i will try to fix it, thx.

[Anonymous No.4959110]

>>4959102
G-pen.

[Anonymous No.4959122]

>>4958560
I'm a Finnish kind of Asian like Vilppu so I'll learn quickly.

[Anonymous No.4959138]

Been doing iterative drawing recently and it’s been really fun. Not that it’s any good, but it’s really interesting to draw the same head 20 times with only tiny changes and how big a difference they make. Getting my reps in too.

[Anonymous No.4959179]

first time trying to draw a horse

[Anonymous No.4959188]

>>4959179
We all have a 6 year old girl living inside of us, but you let yours out. Proud of you anon. I think the legs are a little short. Makes it look like a pony.

[Anonymous No.4959197]

>>4958112
penis too big and thick
should be long but beaten to a complete flaccid pulp

[Anonymous No.4959206]

>>4959179
Kawaii horse
I’d like to draw them sometime for reasons too
>>4959197
That’s the 18 inch coomer man, he lives in a different realm

[Anonymous No.4959221]

Drawing is fun.
Drawing cute girls is fun.
Drawing is hard.
I don't know what I'm doing.
But I'm trying.
Photography was so much easier.

[Anonymous No.4959256]

Any feedback?

[Anonymous No.4959258]

>>4959256
don't use a 1px brush

[Anonymous No.4959282]

something is wrong with it, i cant wrap my head around it

[Anonymous No.4959286]

>>4959282
The lats should be more round. Her ribcage and muscles disappear in the line below the arm.

[Anonymous No.4959293]

Listen to music while you draw sometimes
https://youtu.be/sXvHnqyJqvM

[Anonymous No.4959304]

>>4959293
I rather listen to my cries of agony and despair

[Anonymous No.4959318]

>>4958040
could you please show me the draft/sketch?

[Anonymous No.4959329]

How long do you usually practice/learn something for until you move onto the next thing to learn?

[Anonymous No.4959365]

is the forehead too big?

[Anonymous No.4959374]

>>4959329
Usually until I go "This is alright" then I move on.
You should only try to master or get really good at one thing when everything else is at an acceptable level

[Anonymous No.4959409]

I'm constructing heads but I don't know how long the middle construction line at 3 should be and I always end up making the faces too long or too round. Is there a step that I'm missing?

I know Looms says that there's a variety of head shapes or whatever but I want to keep it consistent. I'm drawing feminine faces btw.

[Anonymous No.4959412]

>>4959409
Use the line going horizontally for the eyebrow

[Anonymous No.4959426]

>>4959409
Most of the time the distance between the bottom of the nose and the eyebrow (should be your middle line) is how long you should go down below the nose. The general head is separated into fourths though this can change slightly depending on the person them self or the angle the head is at

[Anonymous No.4959467]

>>4959179
It looks amazing

[Anonymous No.4959480]

I just started drawing all the hot girls in my insta recommended for you. First time that app ever felt useful.

[Anonymous No.4959545]

Is this too jagged to color?

[Anonymous No.4959596]

>>4959545
I’m definitely not a fan of the line thickness you used for the hair
Why’d you do that?

[Anonymous No.4959603]

>>4958812
are u the goriland guy

[Anonymous No.4959610]

Any critique for this blank figure before i redraw it as a character? I feel like I’m misunderstanding a few areas of the body. Hands and perspective of the head aside

[Anonymous No.4959612]

>>4959610
the fuck is goin' on with her left booba

[Anonymous No.4959613]

>>4959612
PERKY

[Anonymous No.4959617]

>>4959610
her left boob is too big, the right part of the abdomen looks kinda flat, the righ arm feels short, the left clavicle is missing, the left leg is bigger then the right

[Anonymous No.4959620]

[Anonymous No.4959622]

>>4959620
>tfw you resize it and flip it so it will be straight then choose the original bigass file

[Anonymous No.4959632]

>>4959617
Thank
Maybe I posted too rough of a sketch

[Anonymous No.4959634]

>>4959596
I actually like it. Makes he look sort of wild.

[Anonymous No.4959635]

>>4958023
have a kaiman sketch

[Anonymous No.4959638]

>>4959596
I don't remember...

I think it may have been to illustrate that her hair was thick and wild...Maybe...

[Anonymous No.4959639]

>>4959634
Thanks. I think that may have been what I was going for... Maybe...

[Anonymous No.4959653]

>mfw returned to drawing after a 5 year break

[Anonymous No.4959743]

posted a few threads ago, and I ended up with this.
I got pretty good advice and I finally feel motivated to study some things, so thanks for that.

[Anonymous No.4959748]

>>4959743
Sexy. I'd suggest looking at wrists and knuckles again.

[Anonymous No.4959754]

>>4958146
Anyone? I want to draw people, I want to draw things that are not loomis heads

[Anonymous No.4959756]

>>4959754
Everything

[Anonymous No.4959757]

>>4959748
yeah the hands is one of the things I struggled with the most.
I kinda just said 'fuck it' and went with whatever to get it done.
I'm definitely gonna be doing some studying on hands/arms soon.

[Anonymous No.4959758]

>>4959756
From the ones I listed, fine, but in what order as not to fuck up?

[Anonymous No.4959767]

>>4959758
You won’t fuck up because you never stop learning, you should be reviewing those multiple times throughout your life as you practice different things

[Anonymous No.4959778]

First time poster. I have always been a margin doodler, but I really don't have it in me to be a disciplined artist. I was just wanting some feedback at how to improve at high simplistic/SD drawings that aren't meant to be true to life. I know the "correct" way is the general art advice of starting with a sketchbook of real life and simply from that but realistically I won't commit to it since its just something I like to do for fun. Plus I sort of like the wabi-sabi crudeness of it. Lately I've been having trouble branching off to attached bodies that match in exaggerated style and proportion.

Any guides or tips on just making fun little doodle people? It seems like everyone in Japan is able to do this this much without being good at other drawing styles.

[Anonymous No.4959792]

>>4959778
Realistically, the best way is to develop your knowledge of real life anatomy, then skew and distort it. Any cartoonist with a unrealistic style would have learnt to draw realistically first, then changed and morphed the proportions to create a distinct style. Basically, in order to draw a big boobie anime girl, you have to be able to draw a normally proportioned human. People who "learn" drawing from anime or cartoon styles will only ever be able to emulate that which they copy. Stopping symbol drawing is hugely important too. If you wan't to draw a cartoony eye, you must study a realistic eye to learn how it works, then simplify the design to fit the artstyle.

tl;dr, You gotta start from the bottom, no shortcuts. Try it though, anon, it takes hard work and dedication.

[Anonymous No.4959794]

>>4959778
Ever see those artists who draw samey, incomplete low quality things? It’s because they don’t knowledge the foundations to cartoon properly so they’re limited at what they’re able to do so it looks alright. You could be one of those guys or you could take things from real life and learn how to cartoon them

[Anonymous No.4959800]

please critique. I tried doing perspective

[Anonymous No.4959805]

>>4959794
Well, I guess converting from real life directly into cartooned version is a good compromise for me personally. I am not trying to become good, just better.

[Anonymous No.4959807]

>>4959480
I just go to /s/ and /hr/ instead

[Anonymous No.4959839]

I'm running out of different orientations I can draw a prism.
I've been freehanding my perspective since I started drawing. If I want to be good at freehanding perspective, should I keep practicing in freehand or should I pull a ruler out, pick a vanishing point, plot the lines, etc?

[Anonymous No.4959848]

>>4959545
This looks really cool. You have my blessing to color it.

[Anonymous No.4959854]

>>4959805
Well there’s honestly not much to tell you other than to draw the cartoons you wanna
Mileage is the biggest thing to improve

[Anonymous No.4959902]

>>4959839
biggest tip you need is to remember the vanishing point is always away from you, not towards

[Anonymous No.4959921]

>>4959409
make sure you're squaring up the far side and not just the near side
i like marking the brow line and cheek bones first so i have more to eyeball and measure against for finding the chin.

[Anonymous No.4959922]

>>4959921
>brow line
i mean hair line

[Anonymous No.4959924]

Inktober is close to ending frens
>Spent most of the month drawing heads and half bodies, sometimes poor copies
It was an alright experience since I’m mostly a new digital artist

[Anonymous No.4959935]

>>4959743
what happened to her legs?

[Anonymous No.4959936]

>>4959179
If he gains a little more weight he could be in Kingdom

[Anonymous No.4959954]

where did i fuck up?

[Anonymous No.4959973]

Rough sketch with rough colors. Does the anatomy or the perspective look particularly off or can I move on to the line art?
>>4959318
That is the draft.
>>4958091
It's just a sketch, so I wasn't too concerned with line weight.
>>4958750
>>4958095
>>4958112
Thanks for the feedback.

[Anonymous No.4959976]

>>4959954
it's the rule of thirds not the rule of fourths.

[Anonymous No.4959980]

>>4959954
bilious color choices

[Anonymous No.4959987]

>>4958023

[Anonymous No.4959991]

>>4959987
Dunno what I'm lookin at pal

[Anonymous No.4960004]

>>4959976
explain pls

[Anonymous No.4960013]

>>4960004

[Anonymous No.4960020]

How do I learn to shade properly? None of the books or courses I've worked through have much to say about the actual mechanical process of rendering light and dark. I've been using overhand side strokes but it feels like I'm a child colouring in and it doesn't look very good.

[Anonymous No.4960032]

>>4958236
NO THEY WOULD NEVER FIGHT

[Anonymous No.4960034]

This might help a little >>4959991

[Anonymous No.4960040]

>>4959610
I don't look at much cumbrain art so maybe this is just a thing but to me her abdomen seems too long and it looks like her torso and up is smaller than the hips down. It's like a child was attached to a woman or something

[Anonymous No.4960041]

>>4960020
usually it's just grinding value scales so you can isolate it and experiment.

[Anonymous No.4960042]

>>4959622
I like your hand and muscles though

[Anonymous No.4960046]

>>4960041
Is there any way to learn when to use hatching as opposed to side strokes as opposed to other methods as well? I'll add value scales to my warmups though.

[Anonymous No.4960056]

>>4960040
I feel like the shoulders to hip ratio is something I never get right in my initial sketch. I try to always keep the shoulders less wide than rhe hips, and have a nice waist inbetween. I do find myself having trouble plop on the breasts due to little space
My completed sketches look like
>>4959293

[Anonymous No.4960062]

I made the lines too thick, my line work is a mess, my eyes suck, I dont know how to shade/colour in photoshop properly yet.
Anything else I'm missing? I've been drawing for like a week or so, 3rd actually "full" drawing that wasnt a study or sketch

[Anonymous No.4960063]

With tripod vs overhand, when should you be doing what? I feel like I can't do small details at all with overhand, but controlling line weight with tripod is really hard.

[Anonymous No.4960073]

>>4960062
Not bad for three weeks anon!!!!

[Anonymous No.4960078]

[Anonymous No.4960085]

>>4960073
Thanks! Redraw shading is helpful. Does light/shading work on boobs the same way with a sphere, or a sideways cylinder?
How did you do the cheek blush?

[Anonymous No.4960094]

>>4960085
Booby shading can be like that yeah, just think of where the light source and how cast shadows happen for future reference
I think its important to mostly focus on sketching for now, the pay off will be nice if ya wanna do more anime like stuff. Cheek blush was just simple air brushing, i mostly did the edit to show how every small adjustments can improve something
If you're not sure where to start studying, you should look into how the head is shaped either through proko, loomis or mangamaterials, then look at lots of different artists work and see how they draw things
Learning to become more observant and drawing lots will definitely give you nice progress

[Anonymous No.4960100]

>>4960046
study things you think look good.
guptil's pencil book and harding's books have some decent pencil inspo especially for things like landscapes. depends on what you like.

[Anonymous No.4960128]

>>4960094
This sounds really gay but I have noticed being more observant of objects and how they're presented in real life since I started drawing, it's pretty crazy. I'll probably go back to practicing heads and faces a bit. I think I can do BASIC non-stiff poses from imagination (and cross checking with references) but I always seem to struggle on the entire head. Maybe it's that thing people always talk about with symbols.

[Anonymous No.4960135]

>>4960094
Study feet more and try to get a better grasp on form interactions. Sit down and hold your thigh in a similar position to the drawing, the fingers shouldn't positioned how they are

[Anonymous No.4960144]

>>4960128
That’s not “gay”, it’s just different from what you’re used to and talking about it but yeah that’s how it goes. It’s also good to avoid hiding things just because you feel you can’t draw them, draw them badly which is usually better than just not drawing them at all
>>4960135
Yeah I am /beg/ after all
I had reference but couldn’t get it right still but I still went ahead and finished it

[Anonymous No.4960150]

mostly copied. added some details
aigmi?

[Anonymous No.4960173]

1. How much should your eyes be on your subject vs your paper?

2. How do you get your proportions and spacing right when drawing faces?

[Anonymous No.4960179]

>>4960173
Have you read Keys to Drawing? They go over this in depth.
In short though, at least 50% of the time on your subject, and use midpoints and plumb lines for faces.

[Anonymous No.4960196]

Should I be focusing at all on completed projects? Right now I've just been doing iterative drawing. My notebook is either pages of heads or >>4959221 I'd rather not waste the time going through a completed project when all my individual parts look like shit. I did that last time I "got into drawing" and they all turned out like shit. What's the point in adding color and shade when the foundation looks like shit?

I suppose I should also be drawing more from reference. Past few days I've been trying to just draw from the brain, though it always turns out like shit. I don't want to be the guy that says "practice and reps make perfect!" only to be told "perfect practice makes perfect". Am I being too mindless? It's so hard to see what needs to be improved when I don't know it myself.

[Anonymous No.4960201]

>>4960196
You can at least look at completed lineart if your values aren't that good. I try to do at least one completed full or mostly full body drawing a day.

[Anonymous No.4960205]

>>4960196
Focus on being able to sketch something that isn’t a visual mess due to chaotic chicken scratching and you can work from there

[Anonymous No.4960209]

>>4960196
nigga what are you doing

[Anonymous No.4960210]

>>4960056
Fuck you for making me try to do this trad, I miss my tablet. I tried to copy your post as 1:1 as I could before I got lazy on the left, this is what I meant by abdomen too long. In my experience from the pussy area to the top of the abdomen is about the same size as the entire length of the ribs (don't quote me on that I just looked at my naked lady sketches from yesterday). Try to ignore the things that I fucked up like the hand pose (if it can even be called a pose at that level of simplicity) and how I fucked up the actual pose itself so that she's basically leaning backwards.

Someone correct me if I'm actually just wrong and stupid
I miss being able to flip the canvas ;-;

[Anonymous No.4960211]

>>4960196
I love sycra but this advice only works with existing foundational knowledge. Draw heads from reference first and carefully pay attention to the relationships and proportions. Also practice whatever method of construction for the head you'd like til you can do it with a level of consistency. Right now drawing a bunch of not-so-great heads won't do anything since you're not actually learning from your mistakes, just repeating them.

[Anonymous No.4960215]

>>4960210
your legs themselves are nice, I like your joints and perspectives.
But they not at all in proportion to you upper half. Everything from the waist up needs like a 30%+ increase in scale. Unless you were going for raptor monstergirls in which I think you've cracked it.

[Anonymous No.4960219]

>>4960201
I've been doing a daily drawing of athena for a week or so. Good idea.
>>4960205
Good idea. I should draw bigger and be more confident in my lines.
>>4960209
I DONT KNOW THATS WHY IM ASKING THE THREAD
>>4960211
Good idea. Thank u friend. I will be more intentional. Learning jazz chords doesn't mean anything if you cant barre correctly.

[Anonymous No.4960226]

>>4960215
I know the legs are long my point was moreso to show the relationship between the abdomen and ribs. Besides you'd be surprised how many coombrains draw giga long legs, it unironically is a stylistic choice for some people (I'm this case it's me being too lazy to fix it but still)

[Anonymous No.4960231]

>>4960210
I honestly still like left more even though its a copy of my fucked up drawing. My brain may be spaghetti because raita art inspires me. If anything foe the one on the left, the arms could be a bit thicker with light form
Torso is too thick for my taste on right

[Anonymous No.4960235]

>>4960226
dude don't go "muh style" when you want feedback. or go in a coombrain environ. I was trying to be polite but your whole silhouette is horrifying as it is. the one on the right is slightly less offensive but needs bigger, longer arms and a larger head if you want to say "its stylized".

If you don't want to budge on that you should make the inhuman robots or monsters because thats what they read as.

[Anonymous No.4960238]

>>4960231
legs as 2/3rds of body height is top tier

[Anonymous No.4960243]

>>4959221
Wait a minute, those lines...
I scratched like that for a lot of early last year. I cant believe I has the audacity to make a blog and post shit like pic related every day

[Anonymous No.4960248]

>>4960235
I feel like you missed the "the left is a copy of your drawing" part directed at a other anon, anon. And I'm not saying it's my style, I'm just saying exaggerated long legs is a thing people do in fact draw on purpose from what I've seen. I even added at the end that despite that, this is just a case of me being lazy, not deliberate. Case and point on the style thing: >>4960238 >>4960231

[Anonymous No.4960250]

>4960243
Had*
>>4960238
Indeed, but I only like when theres a thigh gap and good curves to them. I think chunkier legs fit shorter characters with less leg better

[Anonymous No.4960251]

>>4960243
My scratches hide how shitty my knowledge and fundies are. I know that, but I’m not gonna start blogging about it. I’ve played music for people and had a photography show. I’d like to think I know that threshold you’re implying as far as showing the world when you do get GUD enough. Glad you got better anon.

[Anonymous No.4960252]

>>4960231
I could be projecting preference so take what I say with a grain of salt. The only things that really need work imo are making the legs the same thickness since that's a bit off and I never even fixed that myself lol, and maybe change her left (our right) arms pose so there isn't a tangent on where the shoulder, ribcage and forearm almost make a continuous line. I guess that tangent wouldn't be there if you added booba though so maybe that's a moot point.

[Anonymous No.4960254]

>>4960251
if it makes you feel any better I found it kind of endearing. I knew a girl in school who used to scritch and shade the bejeesus out of all her awful anime drawings, so its was a nostalgia trip.
fure fure ganbare, anon!

[Anonymous No.4960258]

>>4960250
the eternal struggle of fashion model versus shortstack

[Anonymous No.4960259]

>>4960252
Ye maybe I'll redraw it tomorrow. I'm mostly just set on drawing anatomy "well", but not proportionally, I'd like to make it appealing even with 8 head tall anime figures
>>4960251
Just try to break the habit of penning that way, using pencil and getting that messy might work if you really know what you're doing. Recently I've taken the thin brush pill so I'm not fighting jittering with pressure sensitivity either

[Anonymous No.4960260]

>>4960243
Someone tolde when I was 10 or 11 that chicken scratch was how artists did lines since straight lines were too hard and I got used to scribbling like that til I actually started to try at art and found /ic/ a year or two ago. Boy was that a hard habit to break lol

[Anonymous No.4960266]

Anybody?>>4959800
Please tell me what I should be focusing on.
What are my weak points?

[Anonymous No.4960268]

>>4960259
The two ways I study anatomy that I feel help are:
Anatomy: A Complete Guide For Artists by Joseph Sheppard
And going to /s/, finding a thread of women I like, and drawing all the forms I can see. Obviously study styles you like as well since you like tall thin anime wamen but not much beats the real thing for learning

[Anonymous No.4960280]

>>4959800
Imo the problem lies in the feet/lower legs. You're treating perspective like it's shown in a math textbook instead of in art. I don't really know how to explain it other than that and I'm sorry because ai know you're close to getting it. What makes the legs and feet look off mostly is that they give the impression that her feet are planted to her left (our right) of her knees despite being drawn as if they're straight. Also unrelated but it'd help of you studied hands and feet. I wanna say something about the head but anime faces are hard for me to wrap my head around

[Anonymous No.4960281]

>>4960266
I'm no great eye, but the I really like everything other than the scale of the hands (too small) and wrist joints (doesn't read as anatomical). Ankles have the same problem but your toes and fingers are nice, its just the bulk of the hands and feet that need the most work.

[Anonymous No.4960282]

>>4960268
>going on /s/ for refs
I did that so much last year too

[Anonymous No.4960288]

>>4959800
You should draw the surface she's sitting on. It'll make clear what's wrong with the relationship between hips, knees, and feet.

[Anonymous No.4960290]

>>4960144
Good on you desu. You're gmi anon, just keep drawing

[Anonymous No.4960295]

How different does black coloured pencil behave to a 2b graphite pencil? Should I expect my lines to look noticeably different to the course if they're using crayon pencil over lead?

[Anonymous No.4960296]

>>4960280
>>4960281>>4960288
Thank you
>feet
I did study feet, recently in fact.
I don't know how to improve my feet from here if feet are my problem.
Still I'll keep trying, and I'll listen to the rest of your suggestions too.

[Anonymous No.4960300]

>tfw /beg/ for three years now.

[Anonymous No.4960305]

>>4960296
Hey I remember seeing this in another thread lol. Something I feel helps if you're decent at copying is looking at reference and copying all the forms you see. Completely ignore actual muscles groups or bones or whatever and just draw the forms. Before/after, draw it again and try to break it down into very simple shapes as well, ie grouping all the small toes into one form or something. It'll give you a better understanding of how to break it down since you came up with the shapes yourself instead of plugging in what a tutorial taught you without entirely understanding why it should be that way. Don't stress too much over it now anways, feet are hard

[Anonymous No.4960306]

>>4960300
That's the secret anon, you never leave beg. Keep drawing, one day you'll make it

[Anonymous No.4960310]

>>4960300
you weren't /beg/ 4 years ago? what the hell happened?

[Anonymous No.4960311]

>>4960296
If I had to sum it up, I'd say you are using proportion to spoof femininity in your hands and feet. It seems like you just make girl limbs smaller/stubbier rather than delicate and feminine. Your girl has kankles because you didn't give a feminine transition to her foot. And she seems to be missing her wrist joints entirely. I also think whereas with a male you would draw the anklebone normally, with women you would hint at it with just a touch of shading. Her fingers should be have a line reaching trough the length of her pointer finger (the longest point) and her toes should do the same at the big toe. Her arch should be more dramatic and her heel more petite. The top of her foot should have a steep slope towards her toes.

Your male feet seem fine in that study sketch. But you can't just make them smaller outside of drawing actual little kids.

[Anonymous No.4960312]

>>4960300
Well drawing is a life long journey

[Anonymous No.4960315]

>>4960310
kek

[Anonymous No.4960316]

>>4960311
I think you're right, I'll try to put less detail in the feet and hands and make it more feminine, thank you.
>>4960305
I'll try it thanks.

[Anonymous No.4960330]

can I get a redline? I've been attempting to draw this power where her upper body is tilting forward a little, but I feel like it never translate as that whenever i go over it.

[Anonymous No.4960334]

>>4958023
first time posting here, just my quick sketch of the dragon of dojima

[Anonymous No.4960337]

>>4960330
American monster

[Anonymous No.4960400]

>>4960330
Work on the feet they look like triangles

[Anonymous No.4960418]

do you guys know how to think in 3D?
Do you have the guide I think I've seen it before.

[Anonymous No.4960430]

Is this worth moving forward with or have I made some fundamental errors?

[Anonymous No.4960442]

Is there a place I can find good photos for Keys to Drawing exercises? I'm trying to do the one where you have to merge light and dark areas in a photo but don't have any examples that I can work off.

[Anonymous No.4960525]

>>4960430
have you kept perspective in mind? where is the ground plane? also flip your canvas
>>4960334
loomis! also whats up with those cheekbones, raise them to the eyes
>>4960330
Use parallel projection aka draw in side view to ref the tilt. also where is the ground plane?

[Anonymous No.4960576]

>>4960567

[Anonymous No.4960589]

Am I on the right track here?

[Anonymous No.4960606]

[Anonymous No.4960615]

>>4958560
guess again

[Anonymous No.4960617]

>>4960615
well your chicken scratching has gotten better atleast

[Anonymous No.4960624]

>>4960615
why draw so many of these? looks like you already get it. I'd start polishing it if i were you

[Anonymous No.4960631]

>>4958023
First ever perspective drawing. I can see some mistakes but clear guidance will help a lot.

[Anonymous No.4960632]

1 or 2? I was ready to color but I feel like 1 doesn't look all that pretty, reminds me of the Mona Lisa while 2 is going full anime but hey it's cool.
Though maybe I can try tweaking A's face a bit more... still, the angle is sort of uninteresting. Maybe if I made her a bit angrier...

Eh whatever, enjoy the ALMOST final phase of the Silver Witch

[Anonymous No.4960634]

>>4960631
learn how to draw a box before you try some full scene with a tank

[Anonymous No.4960647]

[Anonymous No.4960648]

>>4960632
2 but fix her protruding skull first
breddy nice actually

[Anonymous No.4960650]

>>4960634
I didn't save the box before I started to draw the tank (my fucking bad) but this is what it was before. Is it that bad?

[Anonymous No.4960659]

>>4960650
>Is it that bad?

https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/6

[Anonymous No.4960660]

>>4960659
Holy shit was searching that video thanks a lot anon will post my results after studying it.

[Anonymous No.4960677]

[Anonymous No.4960695]

>>4960647
Looks good, is this some SCP monster or some shit?

[Anonymous No.4960745]

Doing the front view portrait exercise from Keys to Drawing, top is from yesterday after taking a break for some days, I hated how it turned out and tried again today.

[Anonymous No.4960747]

>>4960745
do it every day, do it anon, i believe in you

[Anonymous No.4960753]

How do you select colours for skin? I've noticed I tend to go too dark with colours at first and it messes up my painting right from the get go.

[Anonymous No.4960758]

>>4960753
Then pick a lighter color

[Anonymous No.4960763]

>>4960695

[Anonymous No.4960777]

>>4960745
keep it up anon, I/d say start with side views, then 3/4 and finally front views. The symmetry can be a bitch when you are starting out
>>4960753
use 5 values

[Anonymous No.4960780]

>>4960747
Thanks anon. I was drawing everyday since I started earlier this month but had to take a 4 day break because of some bullshit. Though, after these 4 days I lost all the drive to continue and didn't draw for a few more days. Today I'm feeling better tho.
>>4960777
Thanks anon. I'm following the exercises from the book. the next one is 3/4 view.

[Anonymous No.4960789]

Apart from the obvious 3, Vilppu, Loomis and Hampton, what are some other books/resources for construction/ anatomy? I'm looking at the book thread but just in case some good ones are missing from there.

[Anonymous No.4960793]

>>4960695
just a rando monster i designed

[Anonymous No.4960811]

Where does my horizon exist in this view? Ignore the doodle on the top left

[Anonymous No.4960820]

without reference.
Anything I should work on?

[Anonymous No.4960826]

>>4960811
join any 2 points and that's your horizon

[Anonymous No.4960854]

Help, how to make it more appealing

[Anonymous No.4960861]

>>4960826
uhhh what? thats not how it works

[Anonymous No.4960863]

>>4960745
incredible improvement. this is what happens when you study from books, folks. not a meme

[Anonymous No.4960868]

>>4960811
Those are not boxes so you can basically establish two horizon lines and the will be correct.
Stick to boxes, draw hl first.

[Anonymous No.4960881]

>>4960589
Its terrible, but you drew that and ask for feedback so yes, you are on good track.

>>4960606
Drop rendering, focus only on drawing for now. It will help you avoid my frustration from the past chuju

>>4960820
Lot of good things going here, expressions are on point but your work lack of fundies to get a pass.
Go back few steps to basics you will immediately spot your mistakes.

>>4960854
This look like advanced symbol drawing, practice perspective and simple forms.

[Anonymous No.4960891]

Why is "real action poses" the most based of books to draw from? Like, it's so much more fun than bullshit sexy pose white women.

[Anonymous No.4960909]

>>4960881
>but your work lack of fundies to get a pass.
>Go back few steps to basics you will immediately spot your mistakes.
Thanks for the feedback.
Any fundies I should practice on specifically?
I want to know what errors stands out the most.
Really appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4960929]

>>4960826
its in 3point perspective and the planes arent parallel to the ground so no this wouldnt work

[Anonymous No.4960934]

>>4960909
In short, the proportions. Your figures look flat even if you are clearly tired to placing them in 3D space.
The gesture exists but is still not that dynamic / alive
Go study gestures (a lot), then practice figures with simple forms, arrange them at many angles you can. you were already there so it will be much easier. Your anatomy is sufficient for your style.

[Anonymous No.4960946]

>>4960934
thanks, really appreciate it.
I'll start practicing figures right now actually

[Anonymous No.4960974]

Finished. Does it looks alright?

[Anonymous No.4960980]

my job is killing me and i could not draw but i got back into it and plan to tak eit seriously when this year ends. going back to college next year but only taking 2 classes so i got a lot of time

[Anonymous No.4960981]

>>4960974
shes so stiff and doll like. Look at that dead eye stare.

[Anonymous No.4960986]

[Anonymous No.4960989]

>>4958086
Pretty good, man. How long you been drawing?

[Anonymous No.4960992]

>>4960974
not really, but you'ld have to start over from scratch to fix the wonkiness anyway.

[Anonymous No.4960997]

>>4960981
Better?

[Anonymous No.4960998]

>>4960989
Second year with one year brake.

[Anonymous No.4961021]

>>4960854
FUCK APPEALING
THATS ALL IH EAR
APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING APPEALING
FUCK THIS SHIT

[Anonymous No.4961026]

>>4960992
So could you be more constuctive? Or wonkiness is the only problem?

[Anonymous No.4961029]

>>4960929
wtf are you talking about you decide where the ground is

[Anonymous No.4961034]

>>4961029
yeah and unless he has some sort of dutch angle then the vp wont be on the horizon line because its in 3p

[Anonymous No.4961036]

How is this, so far?

[Anonymous No.4961037]

>>4960854
I think its cute
>>4961021
Take ur meds schizo

[Anonymous No.4961044]

>>4960576
>>4960567
Is this your work? Its giving me late 80's early 90's grimdark metal art vibes like with Adrian Smith and Karl Kopinski. I love it

[Anonymous No.4961047]

[Anonymous No.4961049]

>>4960997
Not that anon but eyes are more than the pupils, you need to make a conscious effort of how open you want her eyes, the way her eyelids angle, position of the pupils due to the direction she’s looking etc, and make use of eyebrows too p, also eye highlights! Kill la kill is an anime with a lot of expression, so you could get some really good references from there and observe how her eyes change
That said I’m actually horrible at faces myself, I neglected focusing on improving them, but I tried a small edit anyway to try and give you an idea on how slight changes can really change it up. Faces are my biggest flaw so take this with a grain of salt if ya want

[Anonymous No.4961052]

More than the iris* sorry

[Anonymous No.4961058]

>>4958299
Not an anime artist but here is some general advice.

[Anonymous No.4961062]

can any beg with good understanding of fundamentals take a shot at comissions?

[Anonymous No.4961068]

Rate my butt

[Anonymous No.4961070]

>>4961036
how do hips operate in your mind?

[Anonymous No.4961073]

>>4961062
>beg
>good understanding of fundamentals
Anyway yes /begs/ can take commissions. I’ve been taking commissions since last October

[Anonymous No.4961083]

>>4961073
do you take commissions on anything specific? Tell me more, anon.

[Anonymous No.4961090]

am I the only one who isn't interested in drawing humans or muh cutie anime girls?

[Anonymous No.4961091]

>>4961083
Animay girls
I think it’s important to be humble and make it clear that you are not a highly skilled artist yet so there will be flaws, but also try your best. Charge a price that you think is fair and one that even you might pay for if you were a client

[Anonymous No.4961096]

>>4961090
No

[Anonymous No.4961106]

>>4961026
there's not much to say, you just need more of every fundie and more practice.

[Anonymous No.4961113]

>>4960745
General observational drawing tips.

[Anonymous No.4961179]

>>4960763
Your body construction is actually not too bad. Its passable. Your drapery on the crop top sweat shirt is is also passable. The head is the major weakness of this drawing.

The head is too large for the body. The face is very flat with no depth or perspective. The facial proportions are completely wrong and there is tons of symbol drawing. Definitely give loomis a try when constructing the head. Also make am effort to study the individual facial features at multiple angles.

[Anonymous No.4961184]

>>4961026
SHes super stiff. There’s no movement in it. It’s like you drew a posing doll without taking into account the curves of how the body moves. Is she skipping? Is she about to jump back into the battle? These things would have more depth and ugly curves to give a more realistic pose. She’s not doing the robot, she’s fighting. If she’s fighting, she should be using the whole body to push force into something, the same applies to her face. Why is she a doll? Why does she have no real expression? What is going on in the picture? Right now it’s like an unrigged asset waiting to be animated. It’s just there.

[Anonymous No.4961188]

>>4961070
?

[Anonymous No.4961240]

>>4959935
she gets stoned.

[Anonymous No.4961260]

>>4958023

[Anonymous No.4961263]

I gauss blurred a lot of the form shadows (?) and thought it looked better than hard edges at first. Now I’m not sure about it, does it look too bad? I also feel like my work always ends up really red and I have to rely on tone curve to edit it later, but I’m not sure how to go about fixing that

[Anonymous No.4961269]

>>4961263
>Gaussian blurring shadows
>Deliberately avoiding hard edges and blocking in forms
>Dat belly vagina
Was going to post a laughing girl but then I saw the thread name, don't be afraid to use the hard round brush stop abusing filters and please study the pubic arch and how it provides the plane for the Vagina.

[Anonymous No.4961271]

[Anonymous No.4961272]

>>4961271

[Anonymous No.4961274]

>>4961272

[Anonymous No.4961277]

>>4961274
first time posting here in a while

[Anonymous No.4961280]

>>4961269
>Deliberately avoiding hard edges and blocking in forms
You what
I always use hard edges and the hard round brush >>4960094 and yeah i know I need to study things
Thanks for the reply I guess

[Anonymous No.4961468]

Hey if I have a big ipad and apple pencil should I be using it? Is there a reason someone who's super /beg/ shouldn't be using digital? It's kinda fun filling a sketch book with shitty drawings, but I don't know. Maybe the act of using digital would hinder the I-don't-care-how-bad-this-is attitude I have going right now. Does digital hide fundie mistakes just like if someone started playing guitar on electric as opposed to acoustic?

[Anonymous No.4961471]

>>4961468
>Does digital hide fundie mistakes
no, just dont use some stupid brush, fundies transcend the medium

[Anonymous No.4961472]

>>4961468
>Does digital hide fundie mistakes just like if someone started playing guitar on electric as opposed to acoustic?
No it makes them worse. If you want to mess around with digital feel free to, do what you want. I highly recommend practicing your fundamentals no matter what medium you use. But if you want to mess with digital just make sure you take a moment to watch a video about how to use whatever program youre going to draw in and learn it well.

[Anonymous No.4961475]

>>4961472
>and learn it well.
literally the only thing i know is the pen and the eraser and thats it, until you want to venture into proper work flow and rendering etc dw about learning all the ins and outs until you feel you need to

[Anonymous No.4961476]

>>4961468
Go to ctrl+paint and do the free videos on digital and youll be fine

[Anonymous No.4961478]

>>4961475
I think you need to know enough to get around and do what you need to. Videos about important program features arent very long and its very useful. I did this when I picked up CSP. Initially I didnt know shit about how the program worked or how to do what I wanted to, but after about an hour of watching a video as well as following along with it, I understood enough to use it comfortably.

Why deprive yourself of tools by not understanding your program?

[Anonymous No.4961480]

>>4961478
>Why deprive yourself of tools by not understanding your program?
because it can be overwhelming when youre a new artists, not only are you trying to learn fundies but also a new piece of software

[Anonymous No.4961496]

How is the shading? I kind of winged it.

[Anonymous No.4961507]

Anyone got some tips or advice for painting colors in Sai? I tried a transparent black but everything looks so muddy

[Anonymous No.4961508]

>>4961507
If you mean for lineart, use a slightly transparent very dark red or blue.

[Anonymous No.4961519]

tried using no reference, didnt go well

[Anonymous No.4961522]

2 minute sketch. Do I understand what I'm doing?

[Anonymous No.4961531]

It's obvious that I still have a kot to learn, but I'm a bit proud of the result.

[Anonymous No.4961533]

>>4961508
I meant for the coloring part haha but that’s good advice too!

[Anonymous No.4961534]

I just started drawing. What am I doing wrong and where do I go/what do I do to start getting better?

[Anonymous No.4961536]

>>4961522
You can’t be assed to put more than two minutes into your work for us to judge?

[Anonymous No.4961553]

>>4961531
Nice anon

[Anonymous No.4961562]

>>4961553
thanks

[Anonymous No.4961610]

[Anonymous No.4961621]

>>4960881
holy fucking shit this is terrible dont listen to this guy he might be a crab

[Anonymous No.4961627]

NEW THREAD
>>4961625
NEW THREAD
>>4961625
NEW THREAD
>>4961625

[Anonymous No.4961628]

>>4961534
soul

[Anonymous No.4961670]

[Anonymous No.4961994]

>>4961044
no lol. Stompy robot is battletech and the angry man is a blue MTG card. Which is famous for being designed like a red card. (colour scheme is important in MTG)

[Anonymous No.4962004]

>>4958974
>>4958284

twitter.com/1340Smile

[Anonymous No.4962124]

>>4961610
I think you should focus on understanding form. Breaking down figures into simplified geometry is a great way to train form recognition. Check out moderndayjames' YouTube videos on figure drawing or go through some books in the ic support page.

[Anonymous No.4962523]

>>4958560
Korean

[Anonymous No.4962716]

>>4958801
Very close. Legs look great. Belly should curve a little where the small of the back arches. Boobs droop a lot when a woman is in that position so if they are supposed to be a A cup they look great. If they are supposed to be anything bigger, they'd droop a lot more. I think the booty is too flat but that might just be personal prefrence. You could benefit from taking a picture of your own hands at those angles. If you're male keep in mind sexy feminine fingers end in slightly pointed tips. Shoulders are hunched in side view but held back more in a more confident sexy look in front facing view. The right hand would be angled up a bit more so you see less of the palm and the thumb is thinner than it should be. On the left hand the fingers don't match the angle on the side view. But that is pretty complex. Think of the finger joints as the separate parts and tendons make hands feel comfortable in a curved position so fingers naturally curl slightly when relaxed. The thumb sticking out like that would feel forced and painful. I did a redline. I hope that isn't taboo in beg/ for non begs to redline. Really just trying to help, not be a dick by doing that.

[Anonymous No.4963448]

>>4960854
the face is pretty good, everything else is kinda meh like the hand are flat and have a weird shape. the cloth is just a outline and the neck makes no sense the way you drew it looks like it has a pyramid shape and cover the whole top of the rib cage and shoulders

so I guess work on the rest of the body.

not sure about what to think about the hair tho.

[Anonymous No.4963456]

>>4960974
her limbs have weird shapes but it looks fine.