/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4953520]

>find beautiful photos (landscapes usually) on the internet and run them through an an online paint filter effect, turning it into a painting
>put my signature and date in a corner
>print out large prints of these photos
>visit local businesses (banks, offices, hotels) and offer to sell them my "paintings"
>they almost always buy one to support a local small artist, one hotel bought 20 for a bundle price
Bros..on average I make $90 a print, and each "painting" only takes an hour to do (I make some edits after the paint filter). The most popular one I've sold over 20 of and I've only been doing this for a month. Am I a scammer or a modern artist?

[Anonymous No.4953531]

A scammer, and you know it, hence the thread. You’re not selling filtered photos (which you can’t do legally anyway, most likely), you’re selling “paintings from a small local artist”.
Not that I’m judging, but why shit up the board when you know the answer to your retarded question?

[Anonymous No.4953535]

>>4953531
I make sufficient changes to the photos (lighting, adding new strokes) that they're not just filtered photos. So yes it is a painting from a local artist, I'm just curious to see what the reaction from other artists are. These people don't care about the process, they just want nice paintings for their walls.

[Anonymous No.4953541]

>>4953535
People with no training or ability to discern between different artists buy what's offered to them at dollar store prices? What's there to care about? This is the same thing as some soccer mom buying a print at ikea and feeling proud of herself for supporting the arts.

[Anonymous No.4953542]

>>4953535
>i run it through a filter but i spend like 3 minutes doing random shit it's a painting!
You're a scammer, you're scamming these people

[Anonymous No.4953548]

>>4953535
>I make sufficient changes to the photos
You’re selling someone else’s work, you’re a scammer, just deal with it.
You won’t post your shit because you know you’re a scammer and you’re not doing jack shit to the photos.
You’re the Del Boy of art trading, just accept it and stop coping on chinese cheese grating forums

[Anonymous No.4953552]

>>4953541
>wow why would an artist want to talk to other artists about how they do art
You are upset that somebody is making money and you're not. Not my problem you don't know how to market yourself.

>>4953548
>>4953542
I work on each painting at least an hour, there's enough difference to justify it as its own work. And of course I won't post samples now that you've proven to be so hostile, I don't want you autists locating and harassing my clients.

[Anonymous No.4953554]

>>4953520
Honestly, I think you should pursue suicide
You made money off of someone else's work with the excuse that you did something transformative, you made somebody open their heart to you by lying just to make a buck.
I am not trying to be mean when I say this, I think you should try jumping from a tall bridge.
Your very existence makes the world a more miserable place.
remember, head first, shallow water

[Anonymous No.4953565]

>>4953552
>And of course I won't post samples now that you've proven to be so hostile, I don't want you autists locating and harassing my clients.
then make a new one and post it, faggot

[Anonymous No.4953569]

>>4953552
>And of course I won't post samples now that you've proven to be so hostile
lul, fuck off, imagine being so fucking conceited that you come here, ask if you're being a scammer and when people say that you are being a scammer you get defensive and say they're being hostile.
Nobody asked for samples and nobody is going after the soccer moms who bought into your scam. You can make money with your scam, nobody is saying you can't, you're just not an artist, you're a scammer, and as soon as you realize that you'll stop being an insecure bitch about it and won't feel the need to shit up the board with stupid fucking threads

[Anonymous No.4953574]

>am I a scammer
>yes
>nooooooo I am not, my work is transformative I spend an hour filtering photos wtf why are you so mad and hostile
just fuck off lol

[Anonymous No.4953608]

>>4953554
>noo you sold art to people who want pretty pictures you're making the world awful kys
You have mental issues. I'm not trying to force these pictures on people with a sob story, I literally just ask them if they want to buy some prints I made.

>>4953569
>>4953565
>>4953574
Lol I said 'scammer' tongue in cheek, as a joke. Didn't know you people were so bitter and seething that you'd froth at the mouth over a joke.


Anyways here's a small cutout of one of my paintings, it's completely unrecognizable from the original photo. Complaining about this is like whining that people are using references for their drawings.

[Anonymous No.4953613]

>>4953608
no friend, you have mental issues. You very clearly have the understanding that they only buy your work because they think these are your paintings.
You then came here braggingly expecting people to call you a modern artist.
You are a bad person, I can tell you to consider giving the money back and apologizing, but something tells me you will not do that.
Like I said before, I don't have any hopestrash like you will ever grow to be anything more than a leech like what you did in your story. Please consider removing yourself from the populous for good

[Anonymous No.4953617]

>>4953608
You did not "make" them, you run filters through pictures, which had been to be created once by artist, which they spent hours on them and hours of practice to reach that level.

Your seeling pictures which you fuse together and run a filter and some changes on them, which isn't "work" but rather scamming-act.

[Anonymous No.4953618]

>>4953520
> Am i a scammer?
>yes you're a scammer OP
>you're just mad because somebody is making money and you're not!

Lmao, hey man, good for you making money if you choose to go down that path. I'm not gonna give you some moral lessons but what's the point of making this thread?

[Anonymous No.4953622]

>>4953608
>It was a joke i was only pretending to be retarded
Also you used a filter and then spent an hour on THIS? Like, seriously, you spent an hour on this? This is embarrassing

[Anonymous No.4953626]

>>4953622
Exactly, what's the point using a filter if you're just gonna work on it anyway, just paint the damn thing. Sad state of retardation.

[Anonymous No.4953638]

good for you bro, I wish you the best

[Anonymous No.4953641]

It's how many digital artist do their work. Tracing over reference. Goo d luck on you and hope you get more sales OP.

[Anonymous No.4953642]

>>4953626
>>4953617
>>4953622
If I had to spend the time to paint the entire thing from scratch I'd charge more. These businesses got cheap good art for their walls, the bottom line is everybody wins, so why are you seething so much about the process?

>>4953613
They are buying my works because they want good cheap art for their art inventory. Most of these businesses have a stockpile of art that they cycle every few months. Are you butthurt because of how easy this money seems? You do realize there's travel costs, print costs, time spent making these, time spent traveling around talking to clients, and taxes I have to pay? It's not a free ride.

[Anonymous No.4953647]

>>4953638
>>4953641
Thanks, it's no different than if someone photobashed something or drew on a layer over the photo. I was hoping to share experiences with other artists about this but so many people on this board are so angry about nothing.

[Anonymous No.4953651]

>>4953642
>cheap
90$ for a print? definitely not
>good
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>art
i mean, banana taped to a wall is also art
You're absolutely delusional anon, you made this thread to gloat and you're being completely clowned

[Anonymous No.4953654]

>>4953622
Also it's a CUTOUT, not the whole painting. Idiots like you are why people pay me, you have no aesthetic sense and can't tell what clients want.

[Anonymous No.4953657]

>>4953520

>one for me and one for the hooker

[Anonymous No.4953668]

>>4953608
loooooooool

[Anonymous No.4953682]

>>4953608
Though you are a scammer, but it's pretty based that you managed to get retards to pay for this shit, kek.

[Anonymous No.4953701]

>>4953520
This proves you’re a good salesman more so than a good artist. Regardless of the print’s contents, you have to have some charisma to convince a business to buy your shit.

[Anonymous No.4953706]

Op what the fuck is wrong with you lol

[Anonymous No.4953709]

Based.
This is why landscape artists will never be respected.

[Anonymous No.4953720]

dude copyrights gonna fuck you and its gonna fuck you hard

you'd best call it a day and keep your earnings and be glad you got this far...

this is coming from someone who has gotten lucky WAYYYY too many times and should have a police record but i don't.

[Anonymous No.4953721]

>>4953520
Thanks for the idea, will use it to rack up some cash.

[Anonymous No.4953780]

>>4953520
You are a modern artist OP, not a scammer. We need talentless hacks like you to keep art relevant in this world so we can keep selling higher end fine art to wealthy people. Keep doing what you do.

[Anonymous No.4953801]

>>4953520
>Am I a scammer?
You're intentionally misleading people for financial gain. That is scamming, yes.

[Anonymous No.4953827]

This is why it's important for artists to be able to come up with unique images, not just be good at photocopying. I wonder how long until someone trains a neural network + robot arm to make oil paintings based on photographs, further driving home the key point that all artists since the invention of photography have realized, starting with the impressionists. You may be kind of a shithead OP but congrats on getting all these hacks to seethe

[Anonymous No.4953903]

wouldnt call u a artist, but i wouldn't call you a scammer. photography is considered a art so i dont see how editing a picture is not considered a artwork

[Anonymous No.4953905]

>>4953520
Post Your Work, I'm really damn curious how it looks, might take this hobby too. Fuck moralfags, no rules, only tools

[Anonymous No.4953907]

>>4953903
If he told his clients that, then he wouldn't be a scammer. His clients probably think he's selling authentic artwork and he knows this yet sells them anyway aka scamming.

[Anonymous No.4953974]

OP you are based and anything that makes easy money with art makes /ic/ seethe, particularly if it requires balls and social skills. Never ever take advice from /ic/ regarding making money, they are literal crabs and hate to see others succeed. You should trace and filter and do this shit as much as possible, if it makes money successfully do it. delete your post and never tell anyone. Ideally start taking your own photos if possible though for the sake of legal drama but the chances are nobody will ever find out anyway

[Anonymous No.4954010]

Basado. What filters exactly you using and where can I download em for free?

[Anonymous No.4954036]

the absolute state of digital art

[Anonymous No.4954062]

>>4953974
>Never ever take advice from /ic/ regarding making money
Yet, you took OPs crabby bait.
Big yikes

[Anonymous No.4954074]

You are committing literal fraud, if you get big enough the wrong person will notice.

[Anonymous No.4954076]

>>4954062
there’s,nothing “crabby” about the op, you retarded newfag

[Anonymous No.4954080]

>>4954074
You are dumb, if the work is transformative enough then it's no longer considered infringement.

[Anonymous No.4954087]

>>4954080
>photoshop filters
>transformative
that’s not what transformative means, retard
there’s nothing transformative about this, it’s still a landscape image meant to be used decoratively

[Anonymous No.4954089]

>>4954062
I don’t think you know what crab means

[Anonymous No.4954097]

>>4953520
What sort of indian or dark race are you?
Or are you a yellow one?
>Mfw if white
You should be ashamed you stupid faggot, you are a shame for art, all those artists of the past leaving down knowledge for you faggot and you choose to be a shit scammer.Wasted.

[Anonymous No.4954100]

>>4954097
Not care about how you earn money but turning art into a even more shithole medium of shitskins to abuse of turns a disgusting smell to my nose

[Anonymous No.4954104]

>>4954100
off*

[Anonymous No.4954113]

>>4954097
>Darn right have some self respect, ain't that right skeeter

[Anonymous No.4954120]

>>4954087
>compare two images
>not even remotely similar
That's transformative in the eyes of the court retard.

[Anonymous No.4954132]

>>4954120
No, it isn’t. Why do you feel the need to talk out your ass?

[Anonymous No.4954133]

>>4954076
>>4954089
>newfag
stfu op. Ive been here since 2008 you keking crab. (you) are just trying to bait and deceive my fellow anons and get them in the trouble.

[Anonymous No.4954176]

>>4954097
>>4954100
>Haha gonna call OP a shitskin and use some of the memes I learned today, it will be so based. That's what you do on the 4chan. Am I fitting in yet??

[Anonymous No.4954250]

>>4953520
Scam would be promising them something and then not delivering
You're selling something they like. Whatever their reasons for buying, that's none of your business. These pics are mass produced and then sold at IKEA and similar places for an outrageous price so I guess you offer them a good deal and they think they're doing good too
I call it a win-win

[Anonymous No.4954260]

The problem isn't that you're selling something that takes no effort. The problem is that you're stealing someone else's work that DID take effort. Take your own damn photos and there's no issue, but I know you don't know the first thing about photography so you have to resort to theft.

[Anonymous No.4954273]

In 2010 I came across a guy renting booths at events, craft shows, fairs selling digital paintings of peoples dogs in Martini glasses. He called them digital paintings. He would then charge them $700+. He told me it took him 30 minutes to make them. He cut and paste the dog into a stock image of a Martini glass or wine glass, then applied a paint filter to it and then added a signature in the corner.

He'd then sell about 12 of them every weekend. Since he worked almost every weekend doing this, let's just guess 50 weeks per a year, total. He probably made around $700x12 piecesx50weeks=$420,000 for the year, pre taxes, without subtracting booth rental costs and canvas printing costs.

If you have no shame and have a marketable idea, there is lots of money to be made. Most art professors would gufaw at this and act like c**ts. But this is because they're crabs and only make $30k a year.

The guy's art looked similar to the attached picture.

[Anonymous No.4954275]

>>4954273
God, I wish I could be a hack.
I don’t even think I can call it dignity, I think I’m just some combination of autistic and insecure.

[Anonymous No.4954284]

>>4954273
I dont believe this post. Tell me more

[Anonymous No.4954285]

>>4954275
No, you're probably normal. It's just most people don't think like the fat cat business men, which appears immoral but is actually normal capitalism. I think we assume from packaging and branding that many things are very valuable when in reality they cost 4% of the selling price to make. E.g. You buy a frying pan for $25, production cost and importation fees only cost the manufacturer $2.8 each. It's all a big charade. I'm sure the people who got their dog in a Martini glass art thought their was more to the art process, but there wasn't. It was 30 minutes plug and chug. I'm sure people on fiverr could do it now for $5, lol.

[Anonymous No.4954289]

>>4953520
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4954299]

>>4954284
What more do you want to know? Go to a craft/art fair and watch the sales. It's pretty self explanatory. In this case he was the only person doing this and he chose the right locations, near rich retirement communities and affluent people with toy dogs.

Dude, it's not rocket science. Right place, right time.

[Anonymous No.4954300]

>>4954299
>Go to a craft/art
what are you talking about?
post link

[Anonymous No.4954306]

>>4954300
Google it you lazy fuck

[Anonymous No.4954311]

>>4953907
doesn't really matter if it is authentic or not, can't jip someone out of a artwork theyve seen

[Anonymous No.4954315]

>>4954306
do buyers know these are prints? what do if I dont live nearby people?

[Anonymous No.4954328]

>>4954315

[Anonymous No.4954340]

>>4954328
fuck off /pol/

[Anonymous No.4954342]

>>4954311
I am not telling OP that he should stop or whatever, because I have no control over what he does. What I am saying is that, by definition, he is scamming. Unless telling them that the artworks are a regular picture you applied a filter on and not a landscape painted by hand doesn't influence their willingness to buy the artworks whatsoever, then it is deceit. Deceit for financial gain is scamming. OP is a scammer.

[Anonymous No.4954604]

>>4953520
Congrats if you're not larping. I'm only concerned if you're outright stealing photos. Take your own pictures, or pay the photographer. Royalty free photos aren't expensive.

[Anonymous No.4954638]

>>4953520
Not a scammer, those are digital paintings the moment you put a single brush stroke in your work. To make it easier on you, you can just say your "art" instead of "painting" and now you can get away with a lot more. The only problem is if the author of one of the photographs see your work and decide to screw you over.

[Anonymous No.4955064]

>>4954250
This desu, these businesses that buy this kind of art are ready to spend at least $90 per picture, so if you don't earn it someone else will. Any business that can't afford $90 per picture shouldn't be buying art in the first place.

[Anonymous No.4955074]

Scammer? Artist?
More like genius. Are you ok the east or the west coast because I can see this working really well as a business model but don't want to infringe on your turf

[Anonymous No.4955661]

>>4953535
>other artists
other scammers*

[Anonymous No.4955693]

>>4955074
Follow your dreams bro, nobody can stop you. All the detractors here are crabs mad that other people are making money while they're grinding boxes like retards.