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4949107 No.4949107 [Reply] [Original]

what's the verd/ic/t?

>> No.4949112
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4949112

>>4949107
GUILTY!

>> No.4949159

>>4949107
Gimmicky, impressive, very autistic, repetitive, a bit shallow but still entertaining.
At the end of the day I wouldn’t rate KJG over a moebius a serpieri, bengus or even a yusuke murata, even if they need construction and he doesn’t.

>> No.4949166
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4949166

>>4949159

Jung Gi mogs them to hell and back, the guy is a god.

>> No.4949169

>>4949107
Genuinely a good video by Proko exposing KJG's secret. You would expect 1.5 million people to understand by now, but I guess even having the truth told to you upfront isn't enough.

>> No.4949172

>>4949159
Gi can do construction and even more well planned pieces if he wants to, but he's too good to even try. Plus he makes a living doing shows like a performance artist when people watch him draw.

>> No.4949174

>>4949166
>mogs
>murata
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.4949179

>>4949166
Not really. He’s impressive as a performer/showman but his art itself is not exceptional and he hasnt really done any meaningful work unlike peak Moebius who kept dropping masterpiece after masterpiece and had a big impact on the world of visual development design and illustration

>> No.4949182

>>4949172
>he’s too good to even try to do great art so he sticks to being a carnival attraction
Yikes

>> No.4949191

>>4949159
what do you mean shallow? He summed up literally everything in art, all the fundamentals of construction, form, and how to take your studies further at whatever stage you're at. I've rewatched the video probably 10 times and I'm still getting more out of it. You really don't know how to appreciate gold when you see it, do you?

>> No.4949192

>>4949169
and what truth is that?

>> No.4949197

>>4949191
Not really. He didnt say anything new. I’m glad that it clicked for you so but yeah.

>> No.4949212

>>4949166
Google voyage d’hermes by moebius and then kys retard.

>> No.4949227

>>4949192
just draw

>> No.4949236

>>4949197
but how can you call it gimmicky, autistic, repetitive, and shallow?

>> No.4949259

>>4949236
His art is i meant. The video is well made but again: nothing new.
Proficiency at intuitive perspective and repetition is something everyone tells you to begin with. It’s the prerequisite that vilppu and loomis mention.

>> No.4949272
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4949272

>>4949159
the absolute state of this shithole

>> No.4949273

>>4949259
You know, you don't just learn the fundamentals once. You learn them over and over again, and they take on more and more meaning as you grow.

If hearing a great artist talk about the soul of your craft doesn't excite you down to your bones I don't know what to tell you

>> No.4949318

>>4949272
This, the amount of cope is pathetic. This board honestly deserves to be crabbed to hell, fucking idiots all over

>> No.4949329

>>4949166
Nah he's a one trick pony. He's good at doing one thing and that's it.

>> No.4949334

>>4949159
you are a fucking idiot

>> No.4949392
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4949392

You faggots only like his stuff because he has status.
If he was a nobody you wouldn't give a shit about his work

>> No.4949554

Why are /beg/gars in this thread mad at someone who is objectively good?

>> No.4949573

>>4949329
Do you really think drawing without construction is a carnival trick? It's the result of being insanely good at drawing dude.

>> No.4949593

>>4949392
the autism in your words are strong anon

>> No.4949618

>>4949392
Crab bait?

>> No.4949798

>>4949273
Again, he is not a great artist but a famous showman.

>> No.4949822

>>4949182
how about you mate? what have you achieved so far? being a critic? that's pretty low

>> No.4949823

>>4949259
>Proficiency at intuitive perspective and repetition is something everyone tells you to begin with.
They keep telling this because /beg/s like you are too stupid to stick it in your heads.

>>4949273
>you don't just learn the fundamentals once. You learn them over and over again, and they take on more and more meaning as you grow.
Absolutely True

>> No.4949834

>>4949392
He earned his status because he worked hard improving his skills.
>>4949329
>He's good at doing one thing and that's it
It's called specialization and finding your niche, you won't understand because you're not in the business, an eternal NGMI.
>>4949159
>I wouldn’t rate KJG over a moebius a serpieri, bengus or even a yusuke murata
Sometimes when you are so incompetent you only appreciate the works of those whose skills you think are within your grasp. Your brain can't process exceptional talents because the gap is too high.

>> No.4949836

>>4949798
>he is not a great artist but a famous showman.
He is both and you are neither.

>> No.4949843

>>4949159
>serpieri
Opinion disregarded.

>> No.4949844

>>4949329
Art? Yes, it's quite an important thing when you're an artist. You on the other hand, can't do shit. Fucking worm.

>> No.4949851

>>4949836
>>4949844
No he’s not good at art. He’s a carny show for weebs. Like the bearded woman or the knife throwing twins or someshit

>> No.4949854

>>4949851
>No he’s not good at art.
Ah! so it's just bait, good to know. Now I can hide the thread.

>> No.4949866

Kim Jung gi is absolutely based and carats are mad because he can literally draw whatever the fuck he wants. Dude can fill a sketchbook in an hour and is a walking monument to ‘just draw’ and ‘practice boxes in perspective’. This is literally all there is to his advice and it is completely right. This drives talentlets absolutely insane

>> No.4949872

>>4949851
knife-jugglers are fucking skilled man

>> No.4949877

>>4949851
You're a carny show for the whole world, ugly.

>> No.4949892

>>4949854
>bait
God you’re dumb. People are giving you legit arguments. You’re just too mad or too stupid to get them.
Having an impressive process =! Creating great art.

>> No.4949895

He's one step away from photorealistic Heisenberg portrait, reddit the artist.

>> No.4949909

>>4949895
This kills the kjg worshippers

>> No.4950004

>>4949895
jej

>> No.4950103

did u see that nigga? he draws like he is smoking a cigar effortlessly.

>> No.4950134

>>4949159
>>4949174
>>4949179
>>4949212
>>4949259
>>4949329
>>4949392
>>4949182
>>4949851
>>4949892
When AI and machine learning develop to a point where they start making art at a rate that well outpaces and replaces human made art, people will eventually hunger for a live showman who can draw right before their very eyes so they know it is something made by human hand and not machine. In that sense, regardless of what you think of Kim Jung Gi today, the people of tomorrow will see him as a visionary, ahead of his time, and an inspiration to many of the new wave of artists whose main bread and butter will be live performance.

>> No.4950147

>>4949169
Honestly, I thought Proko was a hack before seeing the video, the way he dissects KJG’s inner workings could only come from an extremely skilled master.

>> No.4950152

>>4950134
...do you think kjg invented live drawing, retard?
Live drawing, especially in ink was a thing in Asia before he was even born, it’s an activity born out of traditional calligraphy.

>> No.4950156

>>4950152
Of course he was not the first to draw live, but the point is he is popularizing it to a new generation - and one that will soon have a spiritual need for it. That’s the key point, really.

>> No.4950157

>>4950147
Marshall probably wrote the good parts of the script

>> No.4950165

>>4950156
It was always popular in Asia.
What he is doing is exporting it to the west. Do you know who did that with yoga? Or martial arts? or chinese food? No, because nobody gives a shit.

>> No.4950190

>>4950134
Making a whole lot of assumptions based on just a scenario you made up, pal. Not really a great way to convince others of your view.

>> No.4950194

>>4949392
Nah, I might not personally like what he does with his skill, but that doesn't mean the skill isn't crazy impressive. If I had such intuitive understanding of composition, perspective, line, form etc and an extensive memory of a huge amount of subjects, I could draw what I want and not what he draws.

>> No.4950204

>>4949107
go back to mexico

>> No.4950902

>>4950157
This is the part where a crab comes in to complain about all three of them with more seething. On a side note imo proko is pretty good at breaking things down and explaining, he has a whole league of master studies he did of a shitload of classic painters.

>> No.4950904

>>4950134
Wtf, how do you think AI works? It's some fancy convex algorithms and fed conditionals/human ideals for the goal to get it started.

>> No.4950915

>>4950902
Hes good but I find he gets sidetracked with cringe humor way too often. Marshall cracks jokes here and there but they don’t get in the way.

>> No.4950921

>>4950902
>this is the part where a retard with a persecution complex starts projecting

>> No.4950952

>>4950915
Proko’s wild swinging personality is noticeable. His scripted instruction is extremely light hearted but his feedback sessions are needlessly rigorous; Suddenly the youtube art goof becomes some soviet sargeant.

>> No.4950977

>>4950952
I like it that way desu. His critis are great

>> No.4951036

>>4950952
He reminds me of me minus the skill and success; am angry awkward manlet never quite confidently striking the balance between trying too hard and acting passive. Though, when he is relaxed he's super chill and easy-going. His brand is becoming huge tbf the pressure might be getting to him. Marshall is a gift.

>> No.4951039

>>4949851
THE AMOUNT OF COPE HOLY SHIT

>> No.4953696

>>4949877
Why did this make me laugh so hard