How to get Commissions?

[Anonymous No.4930621]

So how and where can you get people to commission you? Is Twitter the only way to get people to see your work?

[Anonymous No.4930906]

>>4930621
Fiverr

[Anonymous No.4931039]

Yeah go to fiver, if you do post on twitter don't use hash tags or anything people will think your desperate.

[Anonymous No.4931533]

What about nsfw content?

[Anonymous No.4931696]

>>4931039
how else would people find your work retard

[Anonymous No.4932707]

>>4931533
This. I need to know.

[Anonymous No.4933677]

bump

[Anonymous No.4933684]

>>4931696
Retweets and likes obviously. Are you the retard? Word of mouth is the strongest form of communication.

[Anonymous No.4935216]

How do I find someone to draw for me?

[Anonymous No.4935242]

>>4933684
but I don't want to do anything with normies

[Anonymous No.4935267]

>>4930621
bump. Also is fiverr a much safer alternative of getting paid than through paypal?

[Anonymous No.4936032]

Build up a following on DeviantArt, then start shilling commissions on there. That's what I did, and now I make ~$60 a week doing commissions.

[Anonymous No.4937803]

Get good and post a lot and ppl will come to you offerring money to draw their waifu

[Anonymous No.4937840]

draw popular shit like Waifus and flavor of the month shit until you build up a following on social media that means your work gets plenty of retweets.
Then make a commission sheet and pin it.
Then add "Commissions Open" to your name and/or Bio. And then wait.

If you're good, you will get approached for some work.

If you get no response, keep improving.

[Anonymous No.4937860]

>>4937840
>muh self improvement
why don't you just kill yourself huh faggot

[Anonymous No.4937890]

>>4930621
Check with the Clover protocol dev, it's a /biz/ community project, we have our cloverchan and we need moar of her, we have other projects involving art and autism
check in a /biz/ thread or the telegram channel if you're interested
t.me/clvfi

[Anonymous No.4938939]

fiver. you can make 5USD a day

[Anonymous No.4938965]

Does Fiverr support nsfw content?

[Anonymous No.4940322]

okay, so im at the point where im getting a few hundred a week in commissions. is anyone here self employed? how do i do my taxes? im just worried about being audited or something with all this money im getting under the table.

[Anonymous No.4940334]

>>4931039
however, saying shit like "rts = (heart emoji)" works for getting your shit boosted

[Anonymous No.4940378]

>>4940322
This is a q for google not 4chan. It's also completely dependant on your country.

[Anonymous No.4940707]

>>4940378
true. just thought maybe an artist here would be easier to talk to

[Anonymous No.4941611]

>>4936032
That isn't a lot if you're above the age of 16 though.

[Anonymous No.4943962]

>>4941611
>>4936032
pyw. both of you, NAO!

[Anonymous No.4944025]

>>4943962
Do you really need to see someone's work to verify whether or not $60/week is not a lot of money?

[Anonymous No.4944264]

>>4943962
I never implied my work was worth a dime at all.

[Anonymous No.4944819]

>>4940322
I haven't paid a cent of tax yet. Paypal doesn't even care that my lewd work violated their tos, I highly doubt that the irs would bother either

[Anonymous No.4944827]

>>4935242
then this industry is not for you unless you find a niche no one has dipped their foot before, but good luck with that in 2020

[Anonymous No.4944861]

>>4935242
>Social outcast
Either suck it up or go make some coom furry porn already, faggot.

[Anonymous No.4945994]

>>4940322

Don't worry about taxes until you're earning significant amounts of money. The way it usually works is your declared income is compared to whichever companies/clients have filed hiring you as a business expense on their taxes. If the numbers check out within a certain margin (98% or something like that) everything is a-ok, otherwise they take a closer look to see if you didn't 'forget' to declare those 5k you got for doing that gig for the local bookstore.

Now with lewd commissions, it's almost never a business expense. People buy it for pleasure, thus it's income that doesn't make it on any tax declaration as a negative. This means the tax man doesn't get to know. So you should relax.

[Anonymous No.4946038]

Even this guy >>4945428 reckons he gets paid for his art, how shit are you?

[Anonymous No.4946099]

>>4946038
Let's not pretend it's all about skill
Getting commissions is about having an audience of potential/previous buyers that see you posting often and know how to reach you instantly
So post everywhere you can, as often as you can (with a schedule) and make it blatantly obvious you're open for commissions and have your handle on every post/image
Though yeah, if you're ultra/beg/ or have 0 appeal it's gonna be a tough sell
Don't give up, this is a stepping stone, not a sign of failure

[Anonymous No.4946156]

>>4945994
Not that anon, but you’re saying someone could potentially never declare any personal commissions on your taxes as the commissioner will likely not Itemize any money they spent on you?

[Anonymous No.4946656]

>>4946156
>>4946156

yep. it falls under the table. it's like when you buy a used bike from your neighbour for $200.

one of the benefits of drawing lewds for $$$.

[Anonymous No.4948597]

I want to start doing some lewd commissions, do I open a personal or a business paypal for this? It also looks like you need to register a phone number for a personal paypal now which I don't want to give them.

[Anonymous No.4948610]

Better question is how do I find people to commission? I wanted to use a friend's relative for a commission but she's so damn busy.

[Anonymous No.4949536]

Why does no one ever answers how is it that porn artists get paid?

[Anonymous No.4950093]

>>4949536

via paypal invoice. yes you do need to give them your real name, real address and real phone number if you want to do lewd art for money in any serious capacity. it's not that big a deal.

[Anonymous No.4950832]

>>4930621
Depends on what you want or are willing to draw, and how much money you want. If you need money fast, just draw a few balloon animals on furaffinity, it’s fast money in my experience, and it’s easy to draw. I would recommend doing it under a different pseudonym because that shit will follow you if you ever decide to quit. But you can make an easy 60 bucks by drawing literal spheres with an animal head at the top of it.

[Anonymous No.4951041]

>taking art courses online
>guy in my class is worse than me
>tags his work with his social media
>look at his page
>he gets commissions for work I wouldn't let be seen in public

I guess it is that easy?

[Anonymous No.4951173]

>>4951041
drawing porn is the way
I'm literally /beg/ and I got a couple commissions.

[Anonymous No.4951214]

>>4930621
Draw furry art.

[Anonymous No.4951218]

I need a way to remain anonymous doing coomer commissions

[Anonymous No.4952587]

bump.
>how?

[Anonymous No.4952604]

Even if you charfed 100 per com, you would still need to draw 20+ commissions per month to even start getting something respectable, I've been thinking that maybe a patreon is a better option

[Anonymous No.4952680]

>>4930621
Get yourself any recent edition of the "Graphic Artists Guild Handbook: Pricing and Ethical Guidelines". Read it, then get back to us with your questions.

[Anonymous No.4952888]

>>4930621
More than commissions, I've been interested in selling OC designs. I've seen a few people doing that on Twitter and Deviantart, with more or less results. Some at given prices, others at auctions.
Anyone used to this kind of thing?

[Anonymous No.4952890]

>>4943962
Dude, he's not criticizing his work, he's just saying that it might not be enough to live by yourself, wich is right unless you're in a country where life is really fucking cheap.

[Anonymous No.4953191]

>>4950093
Can some anon explain how invoices work? Does your paypal account need to be verified or linked or a card/bank account to use invoices?

[Anonymous No.4953270]

>>4951218
this. I need this.


>>4953191
Why can't you just ask the client to do PayPal Friends&Family transfer?
I'm not sure if that exposes your address, full name and such.

[Anonymous No.4953346]

>>4951218

There is none. If you want to make any serious amount of money you need to be okay with dropping anonimity.

>>4953191

You can use paypal without verification until you make around 2k usd. After that your account will be locked until you provide government ID, matching phone number etc.

>>4953270

You can, and clients would and will do it. But if you do this is a matter of business or with any amount of regularity at all your account will be flagged and suspended. Paypal will consider this a vialation of their ToS and basically 'fee dodging'. Pay your paypal fees, write them off of your taxes, and you'll never have any issues with paypal.

I've been doing porn art fulltime since 2015 and outside a few minor issues here and there that were resolved with a phone call to customer support, I've never had any trouble with them. A lot of the paypal horror stories out there must be third world countries or people who fucked up somewhere and forgot to mention it.

[Anonymous No.4953351]

>>4953346
Damn, I sure don't like to hear that I need to drop my anonimity, crypto payments an option? Will people even do that?

Maybe cashapp? I heard about it somewhere, haven't looked into it though.

[Anonymous No.4953355]

>>4951173
Let me guess, you live in a third world country with stupid low cost of living.

[Anonymous No.4953358]

>>4951173
>>4953355
meant to respond to:
>>4940322

[Anonymous No.4953452]

>>4953346
but what if a client doxxes you? That's what I'm afraid of I don't care what paypal thinks

[Anonymous No.4953457]

>>4953452
Suck it up, like that will effect in real life, unless you're doing some shady shit you don't want family and friends to know about.

[Anonymous No.4953588]

>>4953351

it's extremely rare. lowers your pool of commissioners to at best 1% of what it would otherwise be. everybody considers paypal the default.

>>4953452

then you can't do anything about it. you should simply not give a fuck. hasn't happened to me in 5 years running three different nsfw projects, two furry one human.

[Anonymous No.4953593]

>>4953457
>you don't want family and friends to know about.
like drawing porn perhaps?
>>4953588
alright, thanks then

[Anonymous No.4953806]

>>4944819
>violated their tos
loli porn?

[Anonymous No.4954241]

>>4953806

any nsfw art violates their tos, but they don't enforce that very strongly if you make them money (aka don't dodge fees). they do however enforce you dodging fees because then they don't make money.

[Anonymous No.4954256]

>>4936032
$60/7days=$8.57 earned a day.

That is only workable if you're a neet, a normal person could not live on that in the West.

[Anonymous No.4954259]

>>4940322
>getting under the table
Unless your getting it through bitcoin, it is not under the table, it is reported.

[Anonymous No.4954271]

>>4953593
>like drawing porn perhaps?
first I'll need to get to the level to actually of actually getting commissioned.
I kinda suck.

t. not the poster you were having a discussion with.

[Anonymous No.4954290]

>>4954256
Even as a neet, if you have rent/energy and internet to pay, you won't last long..

[Anonymous No.4954780]

>>4951218
>>4953346
>>4953452
>>4953457
You can actually make a business paypal account. You make the business name the same as your nickname. Then create a template where you omit your real name. The client will then be unable to see your real name in the invoice sent. But PayPal still knows your real name. I just asked some guys at Paypal, if you ever get in trouble for it, tell them your community is full of extremists or people would doxx you and would create security issues for you.

[Anonymous No.4954787]

>>4954290
>>4954256
???
If you’re a neet in the west, you’re already on gubmint handouts, that’s just extra cash for video games

[Anonymous No.4954791]

>>4954780
>The client will then be unable to see your real name in the invoice sent
This is correct, but misleading. They wont see the name on the INVOICE, they will see it on the RECEIPT once the transaction is done.

[Anonymous No.4954795]

>>4954791
No, you can actually change it in the receipt too.

[Anonymous No.4954813]

>>4954795
>paypal here
Isn’t that a card reader for retail?
Unless they changed something in the last couple of years, you cannot omit your name from, the actual online transaction receipt

[Anonymous No.4954818]

>>4954780
>tell them your community is full of extremists
>extremists
>Referring to Furry's and other abominations
I think that's an understatement anon.

[Anonymous No.4954825]

>>4954813
>>4954795
Also, at least in my country, to have a business account with a business name, you need a bank account registered to the same business name, meaning you need the business to be a legal entity, meaning you need to report your income and what your services are, and pay taxes as a business, which is wholly unsustainable if you’re earning a couple hundred a month, and it’s unlikely you will start off with good income as a newly working artist.

[Anonymous No.4954831]

>>4954818
That dog knows of the furry's rape intent.

[Anonymous No.4954839]

>>4954813
You're right, let me phone those bastards again, and work something out, they can be very conniving
>>4954825
Don't worry too much about it, art commissions are technically not considered a business affair, you don't actually have to register it as income until you're making 5k a month, as long as you're paying your paypal fees, you're golden.

[Anonymous No.4954856]

>>4954813
I checked again, and the guy who answered said
>there is a field called "You need to change your personnal account to a business account. In the "Business Type" field, select one of the options. "Individual" or "Sole Proprietorship"
>click "Continue" if you're upgrading your current account. If you're creating a new account, you must enter an email address to associate with the account. The email address must be different than the address you associate with your regular PayPal account. you gotta also create a password
>enter your pen name in the "Name to Appear on Your Customers' Payment Pages" field on the next page, and then answer the other questions about your business. You must also enter your real name, phone number and address.
>This means that this is the name that will appear to your custommers in the receipt and the transaction, this was made for writers in mind, but it works for internet artists as well.
I'm not sure if this is true or not. They are all full of BS.

[Anonymous No.4954877]

>>4954839
No, you literally cannot have a business account tied to a personal bank account, it’s illegal. It may not be the case for your local/national laws, but is where I live. You’re either a physical entity or a legal entity, and if you’re a legal entity, any money the entity earns is owned by the legal entity and needs to be transferred to your physical entity before you can spend it as such, and the entities are taxed differently, etc.
tl;dr: in order for me to have a business account, I must register a legal entity (ie a business), open a bank account as the legal entity, pay taxes as the entity, then either spend the money earned as the entity, meticulously writing off expenses and buying property as the actual legal entity, or pay myself as the employee of the legal entity and then be free to spend the money for personal use. Pretty sure I’d need to pay my physical entity taxes on top of the legal entity too, I don’t remember anymore.
>5k
Right, but only as a physical entity, as a legal entity you pay flat taxes to a certain income, which is low for an actual business, but murder if you’re making 500 dollars a month, and as I said, you need to be a legal entity to open a bank account not tied tom your name, which is a prerequisite for a business account.

None of this is an issue if you’re doing normal stuff, but if you need to hide your identity because of porn, you’re fucked

[Anonymous No.4954885]

>>4954839
>>4954839
>you don't actually have to register it as income until you're making 5k a month
Wait, there’s no way that’s true, that’s literally twice the average income in the US

[Anonymous No.4954892]

>>4954885
My country has some retarded laws.

[Anonymous No.4954915]

>>4954885
Where do people keep getting the average income for the usa from? The average is like 4k-5k a month in the US. yet people here keep saying it's like 2k or 3k a month.

[Anonymous No.4954921]

>>4954892
Anon, that would mean that 77% (seventy seven percent) of the working US population doesn’t need to report their income or pay taxes.
There is no chance a government only taxes under a quarter of its working population.
USA would literally be the most communist country on the planet if that were true.

[Anonymous No.4954928]

>>4948610
>find art you like
>look up if artist is open
>???
>profit

[Anonymous No.4954931]

>>4954915
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_income_in_the_United_States#Income_distribution
Granted, I should have said median, but that’s actually the more relevant statistic for the conversation

[Anonymous No.4954943]

Also, I’m not coming up with the 5k figure, apparently the federal tax cutoff point is around 10k a year, meaning you need to pay taxes if you come even close to living off of commissions. Reminder that you look at total income, not income per source.

[Anonymous No.4955193]

>>4940322
According to the IRS website the cutoff is 12,200 before you need to start worrying about filing taxes.

[Anonymous No.4955782]

What about patreon? Can your followers see your name there?

[Anonymous No.4955793]

>>4955782
Now that I think about it, we could also take the thot pill and post our coomer art in onlyfans, I don't know if that's allowed

[Anonymous No.4956573]

>>4955193
Tanks anon

[Anonymous No.4956640]

>>4955793
Seeing how underage prostitution is allowed here, we'd really live in clownworld if smut art was banned..

[Anonymous No.4956747]

>>4956573
What about them?

[Anonymous No.4957019]

>>4930621
Draw coomer material

[Anonymous No.4957061]

>>4952888
They are called adoptables, you need to either spam it on more than 100 groups or shill it on discord servers, otherwise you won't reach any potential buyer.
I used to sell characters for $60~$90 AB but right now the market is a bit oversaturated IMO

[Anonymous No.4957094]

>>4955782

No, only patreon employees can.

[Anonymous No.4957737]

>>4936032
That's like $240 p/month. How many commissions are you doing p/week or month?