Eternal NGMI

[Anonymous No.4920901]

Post examples of stagnation and perma/beg/dom.

[Anonymous No.4920909]

>>4920901
I mean it's not that bad. Early 20s and drawing like this, with time and effort one can make it

[Anonymous No.4920912]

>>4920909
Bro you can achieve that level in a month

[Anonymous No.4920917]

>>4920909
how is that good for early 20s

[Anonymous No.4920920]

>>4920912
In a day
That's really bad

[Anonymous No.4920937]

>>4920909
This was the sort of shit I drew IN middle school

[Anonymous No.4921018]

>>4920901
Basically 95% of /ic/.

[Anonymous No.4921036]

>>4920901
>Post examples of stagnation and perma/beg/dom

I'd rather not post my work

[Anonymous No.4921052]

>>4920920
>>4920917
>>4920912
>>4920937
PYW!

>>4921036
Well OK. You get a pass.

[Anonymous No.4921093]

>>4920909
EIGHT years of practice and thats the result

[Anonymous No.4921105]

>>4921093
>started in middle school.

They were a teenager without art lessons it looks like. Don't be a dick."Practice" without learning under a teacher or ftom a book leads to shit like that.

[Anonymous No.4921120]

>>4920901
>posts all of deviantart

That site is cancer for encouraging shit artists to never improve.

[Anonymous No.4921123]

>>4920901

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[Anonymous No.4921147]

http://museumofbadart.org/collections/

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[Anonymous No.4921158]

Artist went mad and became schizophrenic. Not worse really but you can see their fall into the abyss of madness through their art. I really like their work before the cats became nightmare feul.

[Anonymous No.4921163]

>>4921140
>>4921144
Lmfao thanks anon those lifted my mood a little.

[Anonymous No.4921164]

>>4921158
>tfw this will never be me
I have already never made it. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.4921182]

>>4921158
The artist is Louis Wain. This image and story gets passed around a lot, but the illustrations here aren't dated and probably aren't in chronological order. This children's book by him was published in the mid 1920s, around the same time as when the bottom row of your image were drawn.

[Anonymous No.4921188]

>>4921150
This one really doesn't tell you anything. Copying a photo vs trying to draw from imagination are very different.

[Anonymous No.4921192]

>>4921188
But the 2019 pic IS copying a photo!

[Anonymous No.4921205]

>>4921123
Why the fuck does shit like this look so easy to draw at first glance but when I actually try it my mind goes blank? God fucking damn it.

[Anonymous No.4921210]

>>4921144
I made this screencap a year ago. Barely have improved since then, since work got in the way of drawing. life comes at you fast...

[Anonymous No.4921215]

>>4921205
Good job, you have developed dunning krugger.

[Anonymous No.4921680]

>>4921205
Right is actually harder to draw than left, it's just that being harder doesn't make the end result look better.

[Anonymous No.4921742]

>>4921052
T.begtard

[Anonymous No.4921764]

Still hasn't seen the worst yet.

[Anonymous No.4921845]

>>4921680
If the end result doesn't look better, is it worth it to try harder?

[Anonymous No.4921872]

No mention of Volen CK?

[Anonymous No.4921873]

>>4921872
VolenCK is an eternal /int/ like myself and a bunch of us on /ic/

[Anonymous No.4921879]

>>4921105
Not always. This guy just sat in his comfort zone without scrutinizing and criticizing his own work. I’ve seen progress posted on /ic/ from artists who had no lessons and they improved by orders or magnitude compared to this guy.
Not to be a dick to him, but he would be sooo much better if he just looked at his work with a critical eye and it’s obvious he didn’t and doesn’t.

[Anonymous No.4921884]

>>4921742
PYW!

[Anonymous No.4921892]

>>4921140

>people tell me to learn the finies b-but what about muh style?

Typical artist thinking that's too attached to the same drawing style.

[Anonymous No.4921900]

>>4920909
>Early 20s and drawing like this, with time and effort one can make it
The thing is, this dude is probably one of those "pick up the pen to draw numblessly every 2 months"
This is what's wrong with "just draw", if you don't know how to study what you're lacking you're never gonna improve

[Anonymous No.4921926]

>>4920901

[Anonymous No.4921969]

>>4921926
Cope beglet. She has made it, you never will.

[Anonymous No.4921976]

>>4921926
you're a bonafide /ic/ crab

[Anonymous No.4921981]

>>4921969
While she is working her ass off to keep virgins attention, I'm here doing nothing and passively getting my money's worth from 7 years of hard work. Praise Steam

[Anonymous No.4922007]

>>4921981
Not him but doing nothing sounds extremely boring

[Anonymous No.4922050]

>>4921926
Her current art is just poop art that she makes easily daily workout ever leaving her comfort zone, she does it because it has been VERY lucrative for her on the last years, it isn't good by any means, but if you think she's anything less than intermediate you're a brainlet, if you look up her work before becoming a money machine, you'll notice that they were good, and didn't suffered from this trash same-face, she's like that gamedev company that used to be good, but nowadays makes 1 crashgrab game every year, anyone decent dislikes it, but we all wishes we were making as much money so easily.

[Anonymous No.4922205]

>>4922050
Now you know the exact cost of becoming a commercially succesful artist. She has it good because at least she isn't forced to cut and pasting photographs like the rest of the trash in concept art. Whether you're drawing bubblegum shit or anime, anyone who is a fan of your art will expect you to produce more of exactly the same thing.

You won't be able to draw what you want. You won't be able to draw it in the style that you want. The portfolio must be structured so the style is consistent and it doesn't look like it was drawn by a dozen different people. If you start experimenting, expect to lose half your audience.

[Anonymous No.4922206]

This thread is WEAK. Give me something that will make me feel good about myself.

[Anonymous No.4922217]

this is an actual page from an actual published comic, enjoy

[Anonymous No.4922238]

>>4921879
>>4921105
I think you're both right desu. This person probably wasn't practicing in a dedicated way either, maybe they were drawing for 30 minutes per day at most. Doing that without ever touching an art book or receiving any external criticism could easily lead to something like that. They might know that it looks wrong, but have no idea what they need to fix. At the end of the day, at least they could make massive gains in the span of a month if they ever pulled their head out of their ass.

[Anonymous No.4922239]

>>4921158
cats 4-7 are incredible. Looks like the kind of shit I saw on 300ug of acid

[Anonymous No.4922240]

I was like this and now I’ve got depression because I’ve just been living my life wrong

[Anonymous No.4922242]

>>4922217
that looks like it was really fun to draw desu

[Anonymous No.4922245]

>>4922217
>let's make a character who's entire personality is identity politics

[Anonymous No.4922247]

>>4921926
May I know what's the standard of /ic/ for a proper pro/god level artist? Because so many pro artists are dubbed as "intermediate" in this place.

[Anonymous No.4922312]

>>4922247
/ic/ is a bottomless pit of narcissistic circlejerking wherein anyone who thinks they have a lick of talent will desperately tear anyone around them down in order to feel slightly better about themselves.

Even in the /beg/ thread, there are a number of extremely talented artists who have been so deluded by this hellscape of a board that they believe that they're nothing but garbage after years of practice. (that is to say that their work would be looked at like it's fucking magic to anyone outside of /ic/-land)

You ask what the standard is for a pro-level artist, but asking that question is missing the point. There are no pro artists to /ic/, and no artist can be skilled enough to get that stamp of approval. Aside from Ruan Jia, but even then you'll have people screeching about how he's actually overrated.

[Anonymous No.4922329]

Me... but dont know how much is just procastination and distractions, and how much is stagnation.
I used to draw all the time, copy from books, find tutorials, but my mother pretty much always was like "why you dont study something real".
And had to do an engineer career. it was so hard for me, that I had to focus my time studing and learning stuff instead of drawing.

And now I feel im mediocre on the 2, some times feel the urge to draw again, but when I start, I dislike it, and start to get turn off after a while, and then may pass another year or 2 of doing nothing. and repeat, while stumblig around

left is a drawing I found from Highschool maybe 15 years ago or something (If remember correctly, this are from some hentai manga I saw and loved at the time), right is me trying to start drawing again... 6 days ago. And I hate alot on it.

[Anonymous No.4922347]

>>4922312
I literally see Kim Jung gi get slagged off here

[Anonymous No.4922355]

>>4920901
someone told them to "just draw" and thats what they did

[Anonymous No.4922367]

>>4922312
>deluded by this hellscape of a board that they believe that they're nothing but garbage after years of practice
Oh, they are well aware of their actual level, they just come to /beg/ to flex and feel better about themselves.

[Anonymous No.4922371]

>>4922367
some of them, sure, but the culture here is so toxic that I could easily believe that a bunch of them actually think they still suck. There's a reason I don't post any work here.

[Anonymous No.4922438]

>>4922007
drawing the same shit over and over just to please a bunch of virgin on Patreon also sounds fucking boring.

[Anonymous No.4922750]

>>4922438
woah hey u sound jellus af bruh
how much do you earn uh?
Stop being a crab and pyw
ur just shit das y u say that

[Anonymous No.4922756]

>>4921926
You're just mad because he makes money.

[Anonymous No.4922767]

>>4922371
Oh come on what's the worst that could happen? Look I'll post one my portraits and let's see.

[Anonymous No.4922778]

>>4921150
human photocopiers exposed

[Anonymous No.4923694]

>>4921153
I'm scared

[Anonymous No.4923700]

>>4921158
N-niggerman, you- you're starting to look a little strange

[Anonymous No.4923712]

>>4921210
rip

[Anonymous No.4923724]

>>4922247
4chan's actual biggest issue is crab culture. You see it on other boards too.
On /fit/ they will several jacked male actors and bodybuilders dyel
This site is full of losers who will claim everything is bad

[Anonymous No.4923750]

>>4922329
Don't worry. It's not your job to improve. You don't need to bullrush into making something incredible ASAP. Just take it easy, relax and just try to draw for fun, or if you feel so inclined, draw what you want and try to make it look as awful as possible in deliberate fashion to loosen up. The most important part about drawing is that you enjoy it and not burn out.

[Anonymous No.4924497]

One of these is from 2011, the other is from July. I'm not going to tell you which is which.

[Anonymous No.4924519]

>>4920901

[Anonymous No.4924520]

>>4920901
>points to my IB gallery

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[Anonymous No.4924546]

>>4922767
Eyes, lips, shoulders, hell almost everything is wonky anatomy wise, but this portrait is still really cute. You'd work as a children's book artist. This reminds me of the art I'd see in those Amelia Bedelia books- simple and cute

[Anonymous No.4924548]

>>4924532
>art school for over 6 years
How is it possible to go to art school for so long and retain absolutely nothing?

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[Anonymous No.4925516]

>>4924537
using furry artists is cheating. For some reason they all cap out at the mid-beg tier (at most)

[Anonymous No.4925937]

>>4925516
they get what they want out of their art
why improve

[Anonymous No.4926003]

>>4923700
keked and checked

[Anonymous No.4926365]

>>4924566
This one's fine, what are you on?

[Anonymous No.4926388]

>>4926365
10 years though?

[Anonymous No.4926412]

>>4926388
What does your progress look like?

[Anonymous No.4926501]

Seeing others fail inspires us more than seeing others succeed. For this same reason, fat people hate threads will always be popular on /fit/.

[Anonymous No.4926517]

>>4926412
i dont draw.

[Anonymous No.4926537]

>>4926517

[Anonymous No.4926546]

>>4924519
is this shadman?

[Anonymous No.4926550]

>>4921926
the Queen of /ic/

[Anonymous No.4926599]

>>4926546
no

[Anonymous No.4926604]

He's pretty active and has a patreon, so I'd guess he's taking it pretty seriously

[Anonymous No.4926691]

>>4921182
>Oh, don't you love pussies!

[Anonymous No.4926701]

>>4924532
literally looks like a wojak

[Anonymous No.4926889]

>>4926604
who is that?

[Anonymous No.4927340]

>>4922312
Those people are like incels but for art, just replace getting laid with making it. Whenever incels get some girls that somehow offers herself, they'll respond by finding ways to refuse the offer, by calling her a whore and so on. Basically the girl is never good enough. Here it's the same, you don't have to try if you've set yourself some impossible standards you could never reach no matter how hard you tried.

Basically it's the eternal NGMI's that behave like this.

[Anonymous No.4927583]

>>4924548
>retain absolutely nothing
That's implying any fundies were even taught there in the first place.

[Anonymous No.4927591]

>>4922217
Is this how zoomers interact with each other?

[Anonymous No.4927728]

Jesus christ, these deviant art progress posts fucking scares me.

[Anonymous No.4928163]

>>4924497
Right is from 2011. What went wrong anon?

[Anonymous No.4928729]

>>4924535
What's wrong with this? Isn't this only 2001? And it's not even that bad.

[Anonymous No.4928733]

>>4921123
Kinda cute, like a microcephaly hamster.

[Anonymous No.4928746]

>>4928729
Regression.

[Anonymous No.4928751]

>>4928163
Meant >>4928746 for you

[Anonymous No.4928753]

>>4921140
>drawing for 5 years and still perma /beg/
This thing fucking scares me, I've been trying to push myself harder and draw more but this thought always comes to mind
>What if I'm just recklessly drawing without any aim?
How do I avoid this type of stagnation? It is keeping me up at night. I don't want to spend tons of hours drawing and still be barely out of /beg/ 5 ~ 10 years later, I do my fundies, I have a good eye for spotting my mistakes and do all the other shit you fuckers say but idk what to do bros. Stagnation is so fucking scary.

[Anonymous No.4929416]

>>4928163
It's not mine.

[Anonymous No.4929419]

>>4920901
why do that when I can go look at art I like and study it so I can get better myself :D

[Anonymous No.4930841]

>>4928753
Well for a start if you care about improving you'll notice you don't before you spend 10 years drawing. You might not know exactly what's wrong, but you'll notice that your art isn't as good as you try to make it and you can't figure out why.

Also people here post extreme examples. You don't know the personality behind the art. They might draw once every 3 months. They might have mental issues that limit their abilities (low IQ, autism...). They might have a shit personality that prevents them from improving (like some of the crabs around here). They might not spend more than 20 minutes on a drawing because they have a shit attention span.

You aren't going to fuck up this badly unless you allow it to happen.

[Anonymous No.4930994]

>>4928753
>How do I avoid this type of stagnation?
By not being delusional. I'm not saying that you'll become a legend or anything but DA is a prime breeding ground for this shit because it lets people mired in an adolescent mindset live in their own little echo chambers. They have their group of friends (equally shitty artists that they've probably known since middle school) that they circlejerk with and if reality dare intrude into their bubble then that's what the block button is for. Seriously; fucking up this hard is something that's either a deliberate choice or borderline mental illness.

[Anonymous No.4931034]

>>4924531
Oh hell naw

[Anonymous No.4931402]

I had this friend in high school and me and her were really interested in art, i remember me and her would draw together alot and she was a really nice person but we stopped talking after high school, decided to go and look back at her Instagram to see how her work has improved and it has stayed stagnant and barely any progress. I think she went to art school to be a graphic novelist

[Anonymous No.4931646]

How do I learn to draw hands that don't look like small deformed flippers?

[Anonymous No.4931695]

>>4921123
thats just bad taste, not bad technique

[Anonymous No.4931700]

>>4921123
Looks like a racist caricature from the 40's.

[Anonymous No.4931718]

>>4924566
drawing the cheek bone/ chub fold on the face too low makes your character look intellectually challenged

[Anonymous No.4933133]

>>4931646
Vipplu

[Anonymous No.4934282]

>>4921123
how's rcdart nowadays? What's her art look like?