/beg/ - Beginner Thread - GMI Edition

[Anonymous No.4918320]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud, Make yourself proud, you can make it if you believe in yourself.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

1.-screenshot the image and post that instead

2.-change camera capture settings to something smaller

3.-send to computer and resize in picresize.com

There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

Previous Thread: >>4914501

[Anonymous No.4918324]

ESSENTIALS:

>>>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stanislav Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

Please Go to Pinterest in order to get some fresh new refs

[Anonymous No.4918335]

i liked fat cock edition better

[Anonymous No.4918345]

>>4918335
ONLY COMMENT IF YOU HAVE A FAT COCK

[Anonymous No.4918347]

Ref

[Anonymous No.4918355]

>>4918347

[Anonymous No.4918384]

>>4918355

[Anonymous No.4918391]

>>4918347
>>4918355
>>4918384
based

[Anonymous No.4918416]

>>4918335
What a huge faggot

[Anonymous No.4918417]

[Anonymous No.4918422]

>>4918417
GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT!!!

[Anonymous No.4918425]

>>4918320
Some ground rules to start this thread and the next /beg/ threads off:

>if you are /beg/
Don't ever give advice.
You can relate and share your hardships with other /beg/s, but never give them advice.
If you MUST give advice, start the reply off with "I'm beg, but what worked for me is..."

>Before you post your work
1. Every person giving advice here expects for you to have at least read some of the sticky, and that you already know what you should be doing to improve.
In that light, replies such as "grind more fundamentals" are perfectly viable advice.
We expect you to know what the general fundamentals are (gesture, anatomy, perspective, drapery, etc.), and we expect you to know where you can find resources to practice these subjects.
Sometimes literally the only good advice to give is to practice more and improve your technique.

2. DO NOT post your 5 minute sketches that you didn't put much thought into. If you do post them then make sure to ask for SPECIFIC advice on a specific subject.
If you post a doodle and ask "where did i go wrong" or "how should I continue from here", expect to get meme replies such as "Loomis".

Follow these simple rules and the generals will become much more productive for both the /beg/s and the people giving advice

[Anonymous No.4918438]

*ahem*

FUCK /INT/OIDS
FUCK DUNNING KRUGERS
FUCK FISHERS
AND FUCK CRABS

[Anonymous No.4918445]

So now I have to start polishing it and I have no clue how, I also have to draw in the face and etc. and I have no clue how in digital. Can anyone please be of assistance please thanks.

[Anonymous No.4918449]

>>4918445
absolute soul
just leave that it's perfect

[Anonymous No.4918450]

Critique pls. Where do I go from here, how do I get rid of the last bits of symbolism and make the features connect? Also how do noses work?

[Anonymous No.4918453]

>>4918445
that's nice.

[Anonymous No.4918455]

>>4918449
but wouldn't it be cooler if she had a big grin on and was doing peace signs like a photo is being taken?

[Anonymous No.4918456]

>>4918438

[Anonymous No.4918473]

>>4918455
no

[Anonymous No.4918476]

>>4918473
you sure? cus i tried

[Anonymous No.4918478]

Critique please

[Anonymous No.4918482]

>>4918422
You said I was beg

[Anonymous No.4918490]

>>4918450
If you just want to do portraits you should study heads. Watch the hudson head video on youtube it helped me a lot. For how to draw the facial features like eyes and nose any book would help or proko's video on it if you need to see it drawn.

[Anonymous No.4918508]

How about just calling it /study/. These threads obviously have nothing to do with being beginner.

[Anonymous No.4918517]

>>4918478
vilppu

[Anonymous No.4918522]

>>4918355

[Anonymous No.4918530]

>>4918508
If this thread was called /study/ instead of /beg/ I guarantee you there would be less /int/s in the thread. The /int/oid seeks validation from specifically finding threads where they dont belong

[Anonymous No.4918539]

>>4918522
do I know you?

[Anonymous No.4918540]

>>4918539
Yes

[Anonymous No.4918553]

>>4918324
>talent is a lie
Thats a big lie. Different people are just naturally better at different things and more adept to learn different things.

[Anonymous No.4918557]

>>4918417
these are already better than last time keep it up

[Anonymous No.4918566]

>>4918347
>>4918355
>>4918384
FUCK OFF MINDLESS COOMERS

[Anonymous No.4918569]

Anyone know where to get a Plain-doll sex doll?

[Anonymous No.4918570]

>>4918417
>>4918450
I HIGLY DOUBT YOUR /BEG/NESZ, SIRS
NOW GET OUT TO /ASG/ OR FUCKING /DAD/

[Anonymous No.4918572]

>>4918569
NOT BEG ARGHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.4918575]

>>4918478
1. Stop chicken scratching. Do long, controlled, continuous lines. Chicken scratching is a crutch for people who can't or are intimidated in controlling their lines.

2. Your problem is you draw the body by focusing on each individual part. Which is why basically every single body part in your drawing is misplaced.
You need to always move your head back and look at the entire figure. Instead of seeing and arm, a torso, and a leg, you should see their shapes which occupy the space.
This helps you break down the image into big general shapes, and makes it much easier to compare the positions and angles of these shapes relative to each other. You should ALWAYS compare the positions of the big landmarks. For instance, if you're drawing the girls left leg, you should observe where her knee is positioned relative to her head, relative to her hand, relative to her feet, etc.

3. You need to have a better construction procedure. As in, you need to know how to "block in the shapes" in order to carry out step 2 much easier. For this I suggest for you to watch Proko's videos on figure drawing and copying from reference. I also suggest to just look up videos on blocking in a figure on YouTube.

4. Needless to say you need to always improve your understanding of anatomy and proportions in the skeletal and muscular level. You have plenty of resources for this on /ic/.

[Anonymous No.4918576]

>>4918575
not beg. GET OUT!!

[Anonymous No.4918577]

>>4918355

[Anonymous No.4918581]

>>4918422
>>4918570
>>4918572
>>4918576
meh memes kinda old now, you can leave and go shit up other threads

[Anonymous No.4918584]

You guys need to stop freaking out about people who are slightly more skilled than you posting here. I swear half the posts in this thread are about "intoids" who are "fishing for compliments." Critique them or ignore them, or better yet go do a study and post it here instead.

[Anonymous No.4918589]

>>4918584
its a meme anon i dont think anyone actually thinks anything here is int i can maybe maybe see >>4918569 this but even then its just beg with clean lines so these guys sperg and think its amazing but as i said its all just joking around

[Anonymous No.4918596]

>>4918581
Who said this?

[Anonymous No.4918608]

>>4918596
who said what? the post? me

[Anonymous No.4918641]

eye shinies how do they work??!

do they have any basis in reality? im just copying the eye shines from a porn stars eyes but im wondering if theres a guide or some explanation as to where to place them.

[Anonymous No.4918643]

what should i be working on? is there anything that stands out across all the faces that is a weak point?

[Anonymous No.4918646]

>>4918641
those are some huge jugs

[Anonymous No.4918648]

what should i be working on? is there anything that stands out across all the faces that is a weak point?

[Anonymous No.4918651]

>>4918648
did you copy from this?

[Anonymous No.4918654]

>>4918651
no i didnt but its kind of weird how similar it is, its jesus i think from a movie screenshot i say on /tv/

[Anonymous No.4918660]

yuh

[Anonymous No.4918678]

>>4918490
the thing is I already went through proko's videos and most of Huston beginner videos. Is it possible that I missed smth or should I just practice more? The problem isn't that much the features themselves but making them connected and make them so they feel like they are a part of the face, not just "on top" of it

[Anonymous No.4918682]

fuck /int/cels

[Anonymous No.4918702]

>>4918646

yeah mane

[Anonymous No.4918709]

My 1st all digital line work. Should I transition to digital or do I still have more to learn from the old ways?

[Anonymous No.4918712]

>>4918641
They are just reflections of light.
Reflections on glossy surfaces are far too complex to bother learning the full mechanics of.
Just keep doing studies until you feel comfortable fudging it.

[Anonymous No.4918721]

>>4918709
you could go digital day one
there's nothing that you can only learn in trad that is useful in digital

[Anonymous No.4918724]

>>4918709
It doesn't matter what tool you use. But yes you have more to learn.
And don't copy/paste features and flip them, it flattens your image.

[Anonymous No.4918733]

>>4918709
This looks awesome. I'd say go for it.

[Anonymous No.4918737]

>>4918721
>>4918724
>>4918733
Thanks. 2 in favor. 1 not

[Anonymous No.4918739]

>>4918702
this is fucking terrible but i really like it

[Anonymous No.4918742]

>>4918702
that is so stupid i like it

[Anonymous No.4918743]

>>4918709
Yes do digital. Your drawing's promising though I think the fingers are too long and thin and your toes look too squashed and flat. Nice body.

[Anonymous No.4918747]

>>4918702
this is garbage i spit on it it makes me puke but i really like it

[Anonymous No.4918753]

>>4918702
>boobs coming straight out from collarbone
i can't fap to this

[Anonymous No.4918764]

>>4918641
Yes of course there is. They are is basically a wet reflective spheres. Eyballes will reflect environment just like an other reflective sphere would, the catch is that the eye has different colors and that the eyelid and the eyelashes always cast a shadow on it which partially hides it so that always messes things up. Like you can see the the ring spot light some use for camera shots.

This quite evident on photographs using flashes and studio lighting. Anime eyelight only use the same method but either simplify or overly exaggerate this. Usually slightly unrealistically to make the eyes shiny and inviting but without looking too weird. A notorious example is Irya-kun who uses this ring light on almost all of this artwork, even the Ghost in the shell Netfilx series constant has the ring light and 2 side spotlight in Motoko's eyes even if there are non around her both daytime and nighttime.

Do not overuse them because they will just look out of place, sometimes the less is more.

[Anonymous No.4918796]

>>4918641

[Anonymous No.4918810]

Did I fix the eyes?

[Anonymous No.4918834]

>>4918796
another example of an int helping us, stay mad NOT BEG posters

[Anonymous No.4918838]

>>4918796
>>4918764

gaahhh thanks so much senpai!

[Anonymous No.4918852]

>>4918478
my basic understanding of vilppu's process.
throw down spaghetti and ambiguous meatblobs. turn blobs into solids. fix up proportions, alignment, etc. place muscles and clothes. clean up.
probably shouldn't quit halfway through step 1.

[Anonymous No.4918863]

i forgot their backpacks

[Anonymous No.4918865]

>>4918863

[Anonymous No.4918866]

>>4918796

i also noticed how you were starting to shade the face, and i tried doing that way as well (anatomically correct with the indirect lighting wrapping around the bridge of the nose and connecting to the area between the eyebrows)

but it looked off to me so i tried to do a compromise with 2D/3D placement so it still looks anime-y

thanks for the shading help on the philtrum and lip, it helped a lot, and obviously i edited in your eye suggestions.

[Anonymous No.4918873]

Are these things at all useful?

[Anonymous No.4918874]

>>4918873
yes

[Anonymous No.4918886]

>>4918702
I kinda wanna fap to this
Hopefully there is a lactation edit

[Anonymous No.4918891]

>>4918478
start with gestures

[Anonymous No.4918892]

>>4918873
they're the ultimate pleb filter really
>>4918702
way to many colors dude
take a step back. less is more when you go for a cartoony style

[Anonymous No.4918895]

>>4918347
Not used to drawing Chocs

[Anonymous No.4918896]

>>4918873
They're ok. I'm sure they were marvelous once upon a time but now, when you can just fire up magicposer in your browser and have a more anatomically correct figure standing on a perspective grid, with lighting?

[Anonymous No.4918900]

>>4918895
Break down those hair shapes my man, no spaghetti hair. =) Block it in with a couple values and throw in just a little texture.

[Anonymous No.4918903]

>>4918570
those are so obviously beg you gotta be baiting

[Anonymous No.4918908]

>>4918873

i dont really use mine except to hold my tablet pen lol

[Anonymous No.4918912]

>>4918908

also why i have all that shit taped to my pen, it's so it looks less like a black long shape which is easy to lose and the colors help me find it much easier/faster.

[Anonymous No.4918913]

>>4918895
Bro what the face is so fucking good. I need to grind more heads.

[Anonymous No.4918916]

>>4918895
Not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4918918]

>>4918895
okay now do the rest of the body

[Anonymous No.4918922]

>>4918895

really good desu

>>4918912

i even attached a keyfinder to the pen so i can just use a remote that will beep to where it is because i hated losing tablet pens so much and i always do , but it got kinda awkward with the keyfinder always dangling from the pen, so i take it off now when i draw. i starte losing it less after this, knowing i can comfortably find it when needed actually took a lot of stress away from me, and now i jusy don't lose the dang thing anymore. weird how the mind works lol.

[Anonymous No.4918950]

>>4918922

[Anonymous No.4918954]

>>4918900
I have no clue how her hair works. Is it because she has a weave?

[Anonymous No.4918957]

How to change mindset about art?

[Anonymous No.4918969]

>>4918957
channel coomer energy. one hand on your pencil, one hand on your dick.

[Anonymous No.4918970]

>>4918957
die and be reborn

[Anonymous No.4919009]

All you ints gets out of here and stop giving advice to the begs this is a beg only thread so it must be the blind leading the blind as god intended!

[Anonymous No.4919019]

>>4918970
Is there anything else I can do

[Anonymous No.4919058]

>>4919009
not beg

[Anonymous No.4919061]

>>4919058
Oh. OK. I'll show myself out.

[Anonymous No.4919066]

>>4918895
Lmao why are you posting on /beg/? No one notices you irl so you got to come here to get your ego stroked? Are you this sad?

[Anonymous No.4919081]

>>4919066
NGMI

[Anonymous No.4919088]

What do you guys think? I first drew it on my sketchbook and then drew over with a computer mouse.

[Anonymous No.4919091]

>>4919088
Reference

[Anonymous No.4919105]

>>4919088
>>4919091

are you in the army now, son?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvbK6Fh7Lhg

good color choice, you got an eye for it.

[Anonymous No.4919137]

Loomis anon here. Some figures drawn from reference photos.

[Anonymous No.4919151]

>>4919137
you're worrying about details too early which makes everything wobbly. focus on the simplified geometric forms and getting a feeling of three dimensional volume first.

[Anonymous No.4919166]

>>4919151
Thanks anon. That's helpful

[Anonymous No.4919242]

>>4919066
You are infinitely mad about /int/

[Anonymous No.4919250]

Are there too many mistakes to move forward with

[Anonymous No.4919257]

>>4918895
Wait a minute, can you only draw heads?

[Anonymous No.4919266]

>>4919137
For the moment, don't draw a bunch of lumpy muscles like this. You need to be BIG PICTURE. That means gesture (loose, simplified sketches of a pose) and structure, or construction (clean cylinders and cubes to build up the human form.

Anatomy comes later.

Construction teaches WHAT the human form is - it's shape.
Gesture teaches HOW the form moves - it's function
Anatomy eventually links the two - the point where form and function collide, but that's for later.

For now, work on being clean, keep working on boxes (I see you're off to a great start), but I want you to use cylinders to build the limbs as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.4919289]

>>4919250
I saw this and I was like "I'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE YOU FUCKING COPIER" and then I realized it was from a previous beg thread lol.

Still looks good to me, but the other figure is very flat and lacks perspective. It's also worth noting that his form his VERY ambiguous. I thought he was facing toward me for a minute, and now I see it's him facing away.

Try to avoid making people face DIRECTLY AT or DIRECTLY AWAY from the camera unless you're doing it for effect. It practically never happens in real life, and it makes it where the silhouette is gives no information on the characters orientation. The wrinkles on the arm / spilling onto his back are wrong, and I'd look up reference for that.

[Anonymous No.4919293]

>>4919066
I like how you don't think they deserve attention, so you expend massive psychic energy giving them attention and replying to all of their posts.

[Anonymous No.4919297]

>>4918895
latest version before going to bed.

[Anonymous No.4919318]

>>4919250
Thanks, buddy.

[Anonymous No.4919322]

>>4919289
Thanks, buddy!

[Anonymous No.4919328]

>>4919297
the highlight on her nose is so ridiculous bright its like pure white

[Anonymous No.4919337]

>>4918478

[Anonymous No.4919339]

>>4919293
they do, but they're interested in playing big fish in a small pond

[Anonymous No.4919342]

>>4919009
>All you ints gets out of here and stop giving advice to the begs this is a beg only thread so it must be the blind leading the blind as god intended!
when are ints actually trying to lead

[Anonymous No.4919345]

WIP

[Anonymous No.4919366]

>>4919342
lol there are several examples of good int advice in this thread so far.

[Anonymous No.4919380]

>>4919366
wouldn't have happened if ints didn't start being called out more

[Anonymous No.4919387]

>>4919380
thanks man you saved this thread with your constant shit posting

[Anonymous No.4919389]

>>4919242
That's because these /int/cels keep taking over our threads.

[Anonymous No.4919390]

>>4919389
*saving our threads

[Anonymous No.4919398]

>>4919380
No there were definitely more redlines in previous threads the obnoxious pants shitting in here definitely is getting old for me and I definitely do fewer redlines because reading the thread is annoying.

[Anonymous No.4919401]

>>4919398
its literally just one insecure beg, please carry on helping us, if youre the anon i think you are then youve helped me a lot

[Anonymous No.4919406]

>>4919390
Not when they start posting their own work asking for advice when this thread is tailored to beginners needing help. Unless you want /beg/s to start making a new thread each time they need help then be my guest.

[Anonymous No.4919407]

>>4919406
why would they make a new thread when they can post here and get help from an int and not a beg?

[Anonymous No.4919412]

>>4919407
Look I'm just saying INTs shouldn't post their work larping as a beg since it's not fair to other begs here. That's all.

[Anonymous No.4919413]

>>4919412
not fair? what? not fair how?

[Anonymous No.4919418]

>>4919413
Not fair because there are those that need more help..? Why am I even explaining this.

[Anonymous No.4919421]

>>4919418
but why would ints posting here mean they get less help? im genuinely confused now, if anything they get more help, the only help i ever get is from ints

[Anonymous No.4919431]

>>4919418
you think begs are going to stop helping other begs because ints are here? wtf is this logic, why do you hate ints so much jesus, they literally come help us for free and thats it, but if youd rather drown in a cesspool of shitty advice then be my guest

[Anonymous No.4919439]

>>4919418
>>4919412
hey man, you're really annoying! please stop posting, you're bringing down the quality of the thread, thanks.

[Anonymous No.4919459]

This

[Anonymous No.4919477]

anybody else remember when nosebro used to show up here and try to scalp anybody with talent?

did nosebro ever mentor anybody? are there any students of the old master?

[Anonymous No.4919478]

I'm still confused about what a /beg is.

Like, is a person who can draw, but needs advice or makes bad decisions a beg ?

[Anonymous No.4919480]

>>4919412

dude NOBODY is posting for (you)'s jesus christ

you are a paranoid moron

i post my shit here because when i post it anywhere else, i get told "go back to /beg/" even though I've been drawing for 23 years now.

Anybody can be /beg/, /beg/ is a fruitful state of mind, in the beginners mind there are many opportunities to be taken advantage of, in the expert mind there are few.

I hope to remain /beg/ forever, for /beg/ is actually /zen/ mind. /beg/ is the most fun mind, who wouldn't want to be /beg/ forever? instead of the egotisitcal /int/ or ego driven barking mad /draw/fag

jesus just read this damn book why dontcha
http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/zenmind.pdf

>B
EGINNER' S MIN D "In the beginner's mind
there are many possibilities, hut in the expert's
there are few."
People say that practicing Zen is difficult, but there is a
misunderstanding as to why. It is not difficult because it is
hard to sit in the cross-legged position, or to attain enlightenment. It is difficult because it is hard to keep our mind pure
and our practice pure in its fundamental sense. The Zen
school developed in many ways after it was established in
China, but at the same time, it became more and more impure. But I do not want to talk about Chinese Zen or the
history of Zen. I am interested in helping you keep your
practice from becoming impure.
In Japan we have the phrase shoshin, which means "beginner's mind." The goal of practice is always to keep our
beginner's mind. Suppose you recite the Prajna Paramita
Sutra only once. It might be a very good recitation. But what
would happen to you if you recited it twice, three times, four
times, or more? You might easily lose your original attitude
towards it. The same thing will happen in your other Zen
practices. For a while you will keep your beginner's mind,
but if you continue to practice one, two, three years or more,
although you may improve some, you are liable to lose the
limitless meaning of original mind.

[Anonymous No.4919483]

>>4919478
Everyone's a /beg/ when you're a crab and want to make said person feel dumb and everyone's not a /beg/ when you're a crab and also want to make said person feel dumb, and /ic/ is all crabs all the time, does that answer the question? Spend little time here and maybe let it go while you can.

[Anonymous No.4919487]

>>4919480

For Zen students the most important thing is not to be
dualistic. Our "original mind" includes everything within
itself. It is always rich and sufficient within itself. You should
not lose your self-sufficient state of mind. This does not mean
a closed mind, but actually an empty mind and a ready mind.
If your mind is empty, it is always ready for anything; it is
open to everything. In the beginner's mind there are many
possibilities; in the expert's mind there are few.
If you discriminate too much, you limit yourself. If you
are too demanding or too greedy, your mind is not rich and
self-sufficient. If we lose our original self-sufficient mind, we
will lose all precepts. When your mind becomes demanding,
when you long for something, you will end up violating your
own precepts: not to tell lies, not to steal, not to kill, not to
be immoral, and so forth. If you keep your original mind,
the precepts will keep themselves.
In the beginner's mind there is no thought, "I have attained something." All self-centered thoughts limit our vast
mind. When we have no thought of achievement, no thought
of self, we are true beginners. Then we can really learn something. The beginner's mind is the mind of compassion. When
our mind is compassionate, it is boundless. Dogen-zenji, the
founder of our school, always emphasized how important it is
to resume our boundless original mind. Then we are always
true to ourselves, in sympathy with all beings, and can actually practice.
So the most difficult thing is always to keep your beginner's mind. There is no need to have a deep understanding
of Zen. Even though you read much Zen literature, you must
read each sentence with a fresh mind. You should not say,
"I know what Zen is," or "I have attained enlightenment."
This is also the real secret of the arts: always be a beginner.
Be very very careful about this point. If you start to practice
zazen, you will begin to appreciate your beginner's mind.
It is the secret of Zen practice

[Anonymous No.4919488]

>>4919480
>dude NOBODY is posting for (you)'s jesus christ
are you kidding? i haven't meant a single artist hungry for validation in some way

[Anonymous No.4919489]

>>4919480
i think he just wants his little secret club rather than actually trying to get better and improve as an artist, he resents the int as he can never make it, his hate and anger grows inside as they get yous and he celebrates his 5th year of trying to draw boxes and some shitty loomis heads

[Anonymous No.4919490]

>>4919488
we are here to get better retard, i dont want praise i want god damn help from ints so i can become an int and in turn help my past begs

[Anonymous No.4919492]

>>4919487

T O POLIS H A TILE "When you become you, Zen becomes Zen. When you are you, you see things as they are, and you become one with your surroundings." Zen stories, or hoans, are very difficult to understand before you know what we are doing moment after moment. But if you know exactly what we are doing in each moment, you will not find koans so difficult. There are so many koans. I have often talked to you about a frog, and each time everybody laughs. But a frog is very interesting. He sits like us, too, you know. But he does not think that he is doing anything so special. Whe n you go to a zendo and sit, you may think you are doing some special thing. While your husband or wife is sleeping, you are practicing zazen! You are doing some special thing, and your spouse is lazy! That may be your understanding of zazen. But look at the frog. A frog also sits like us, but he has no idea of zazen. Watch him. If something annoys him, he will make a face. If something comes along to eat, he will snap it up and eat, and he eats sitting. Actually that is our zazen—not any special thing. Here is a kind of frog koan for you. Baso was a famous Zen master called the Horse-master. He was the disciple of Nangaku, one of the Sixth Patriarch's disciples. One day while he was studying under Nangaku, Baso was sitting, practicing zazen. He was a man of large physical build; when he talked, his tongue reached to his nose; his voice was loud; and his zazen must have been very good. Nangaku saw him sitting like a great mountain or like a frog. Nangaku asked, "Wha t are you doing?"

[Anonymous No.4919493]

>>4919492

I am practicing zazen, " Baso replied. "Wh y are you practicing zazen?" "I want to attain enlightenment; I want to be a Buddha," the disciple said. Do you know what the teacher did? He picked up a tile, and he started to polish it. In Japan, after taking a tile from the kiln, we polish it to give it a beautiful finish. So Nangaku picked up a tile and started to polish it. Baso, his disciple, 8 0 RIGH T ATTITUD E asked, "Wha t are you doing?" "I want to make this tile into a jewel, " Nangaku said. "How is it possible to make a tile a jewel? " Baso asked. "Ho w is it possible to become a Buddha by practicing zazen?" Nangaku replied. "Do you want to attain Buddhahood ? There is no Buddhahood besides your ordinary mind. Whe n a cart does not go, which do you whip, the cart or the horse? " the master asked. Nangaku's meaning her e is that whatever you do, that is zazen. True zazen is beyond being in bed or sitting in the zendo. If your husband or wife is in bed, that is zazen. If you think, "I am sitting here , and my spouse is in bed, " then even though you are sitting her e in the cross-legged position, that is not true zazen. You should be like a frog always. That is true zazen.

[Anonymous No.4919497]

>>4919490
>we are here to get better retard, i dont want praise i want god damn help from ints so i can become an int and in turn help my past begs
he's a bit of truth dude
juts because you're a good person doesn't mean everyone else
stop taking general criticism as criticism towards yourself when its clear you're exempt from it

[Anonymous No.4919501]

>>4919497
i mean yeah i admit i like getting yous, i mean who doesnt, but i like it because theres a chance it will help my art get better and it will be advice more so though than yay attention, but i still do like the attention yes, heres your you

[Anonymous No.4919503]

>>4919480
This is the eternal NGMI, behold it's majestic beauty.

[Anonymous No.4919509]

>>4919503
hes right though and its been said for 1000s of years, a master is an eternal student, you are constantly learning, or you should be anyways, never stagnate.

[Anonymous No.4919510]

>>4919488

of course i want validation. i live for the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pco91kroVgQ

>>4919490

this is a good attitude too, humble, but don't forget you're a person first, and an artist second. that way of thinking got me into some heavy drugs and abusive relationships.
You're a person, who does art. Purge thyself of this "artist" tag, and never look upon it with honor ever again. "Artists" are to be despised.
A man who smoke hookah and has a dope pad and dresses funny, talks loud and is a generally odd looking but somewhat attractive in the face, is a nothing but a closet homosexual or "artist". Closet-Artist perhaps. He's an artist in name only, everything about his dress suggests he is artistic, but does he produce works?

N O P E .

Your paintings are your offspring, and you must devour your offspring, cut them to pieces, reassemble the the best four, devour them again, excrete the best one, and dolly it up and then you MIGHT be getting better.

rinse and repeat until you die. have fun. there are no rules. only tools and fools who think their worldview and method works must work for everyone.

[Anonymous No.4919515]

>>4919418
>Not fair because there are those that need more help..?

never got crits myself here when my drawings were at the level of the left in pic related, and even now it's the same but I've grown to like it. i just read the sticky sometimes instead of whining about people who draw better than me and continued to post random doodles from time to time.
back then once in a while, some really good artists would crit others and give mindblowingly simple-yet-eye opening crits and i would listen. you've developed a massive cope which i am blaming on anime.
I don't like the weirdly inauthentic vibes in other threads so i post here where occasionally good artists will literally shit on you with honesty, or own your life with a redline which is insanely good for improvement

[Anonymous No.4919548]

>>4919510
stupid white girl

[Anonymous No.4919552]

>>4919501
if you're at a certain level here you aren't going to get good advice, you're better off going into the other threads

[Anonymous No.4919561]

goodbye /beg/

[Anonymous No.4919578]

This thread is a shitshow

[Anonymous No.4919586]

>>4919488
All those female coom artists fishing for male validation by pandering to their gaze would have you beg to differ

[Anonymous No.4919588]

[Anonymous No.4919599]

>>4919588
Alien baby or bunny?

[Anonymous No.4919632]

>>4919431
Wait I'm confused. So are we welcoming the LARPers now?

[Anonymous No.4919644]

More construction, any help? Pure loomis method btw
Yeah I know about the lips Im trying to figure out that one, still leaving this as it is and moving on

[Anonymous No.4919662]

/int/‘s only job here is to give us /beg/gars advices as mentioned in the ground rules. If you pretend to be one for the sake of praises then you deserve to be punished.

[Anonymous No.4919669]

>>4919644
is this a from the ref? if so you should also post it. From what I can see the ear is a little to big/high. The way you drew the brow line and the nose makes it look crooked but that might be from the expression youre trying to convey. The eye placement is ok just need to fix the shape of the eye. The mouth is around the where the jaw is so you need to raise your mouth placement or lower you jaw a little.

[Anonymous No.4919673]

>>4919644
Right eye too small and misplaced.
Nose angled incorrectly.
Ear is too big.

Pretty nice though keep going anon.

[Anonymous No.4919676]

>>4919669
my bad, I completely forgot.
Here's the ref
After reflecting on it I can see the following issues, I missed the tilt of the head, left side is a bit warped and NOSE, the nose is longer than it should be, it's crooked alright and you noticed that too
>>4919673
Yeah it's so tricky I did the mirror thing but still ended up with this

[Anonymous No.4919693]

>>4918702
WOW! HOT a What Baabhabhiat

[Anonymous No.4919709]

How’s this

[Anonymous No.4919717]

>>4919709
you got to rotate the pic and resize to make it easier to look at. I'm just going to assume you are drawing in a cartoon/manga style, so aside from that the legs are to long and the head is small for the body. other than those things it looks good.

[Anonymous No.4919725]

>>4919717
woopsie

[Anonymous No.4919734]

>>4919421
>>4919431
>>4919439
You three dumbasses need to work on your comprehension skills. If every /int/ start posting their work as “beg” then this thread would no longer be a /beg/ thread.

[Anonymous No.4919776]

Practicing figure drawing like animators do, i tried to use kind of strong shapes to construct the body, any advice is highly appreciated

[Anonymous No.4919779]

Retards absolutely obsessed with arbitrary labels and shit up these threads as a result need to rope themselves.

[Anonymous No.4919780]

>>4919717
>>4919725
anything else? no need to go easy

[Anonymous No.4919816]

[Anonymous No.4919828]

>>4919779
>>4919816

[Anonymous No.4919830]

>>4919828
I didn’t even say anything you shitlicking dickbite.

[Anonymous No.4919841]

I wish I could draw so I could make a comic

[Anonymous No.4919845]

>" leave /beg/ /int/cels !!! "
>decide to check out draw
>first post I see is pic related
Lmao you guys were right, this is gon be good

[Anonymous No.4919848]

>>4919841
One of the most successful webcomics has pretty lousy art, so don’t feel like the bar is too high for you.

[Anonymous No.4919853]

>>4918895
Just make her white so she look nicer.

[Anonymous No.4919904]

>>4919848
I want to write stories, not gag comics

[Anonymous No.4919910]

suggestions b4 I start hatching and further colouring? Attempting to araraki's colour pallete and shading.

[Anonymous No.4919924]

>>4918641
COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM

[Anonymous No.4919928]

hello

[Anonymous No.4920008]

i thought to take a break from shoulder drawing and draw some eyes, also yes my lines are scratchy but i'm watching alphonso dunn the man's a magician. any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4920012]

>>4920008
pic related, the model i'm using

[Anonymous No.4920090]

Jesus fuck I can’t sleep I’m super itchy for some reason I blame the horsey sauce.

[Anonymous No.4920132]

>>4920008
Your lines aren't so much scratchy as it looks like you're bearing down on the pencil like you're using a wrench on a stuck bolt. Relax your grip.

LOOK at the reference. It's an eye. You're measuring, without it meaning anything. You're symbol drawing here, you're drawing what you think is there, not what is there - and it's right in front of you.

Look at the space below the pupil, above the lower lid - you completely missed that, every time.

Stop drawing the inside of the eyelids as an almond shape, and LOOK at the structure.

Look at how the eyelashes are, and where they are on the lid, and where the follicle is, and the shape of the hair, especially as it has makeup on it, so it's thick at the base, and tapers.

Draw smoother, simple lines with less pressure. Draw faint lines to figure out where they go, then do a final line with more confidence and flow.

Look how big the pupil is, in relation to the iris.

Imagine the eyeball, and it's shape, and how everything else lays on top of it, and how the lids wrap around it.

Look at the white space of the eyeball, and how everything relates to it.

Look.

Measure.

Draw.

[Anonymous No.4920135]

>>4920090
The things that’s killing me right now? WTF Little Billy’s throne should look like.

[Anonymous No.4920136]

>>4920090
Hey Disney fag,
you draw from ref of imagination?

What resources did you study/learn to get that Disney style?

[Anonymous No.4920138]

>>4918450
The next step would be to define contours more accurately and cleanly, draw the hair more accurately and give it more form and texture, and use a combination of harder leads with the one you're using to get a better value gradient across the drawing. Eyebrows have a texture, they're not solid shapes like that, they have grain and structure. Define the lips better.

It's a good attempt. The next steps are refine and polish more. Your values need work, you're going from too dark to blown out highlights, work on your mid tones and transitions - stop smudging, and work on being able to do a smooth, clean area of value with pencil strokes. If you want to practice, draw ten boxes on a page, an inch square, and fill them cleanly with values going from 10% to 100%, using only pencil strokes. Smudging has it's place, but you need to work on pencil control more.

Another thing to try is to unify your strokes across the drawing, all of them in the same general direction, as practice.

[Anonymous No.4920140]

>>4918648
Work on finishing them. Pick one and do a larger, more detailed version. Flesh it out.

[Anonymous No.4920143]

>>4918895
It's not bad, but your values and lighting need some tweaking. The hair is a cop out.

[Anonymous No.4920158]

>>4920132
Shit, i'm going a hell of a lot easier on my line pressure thinking i was letting up too.

[Anonymous No.4920168]

>>4920008
Watch Proko's video on how to construct an eye, as well as all his other videos. Do a lay in first, then do shading, then work on details. Always do details last. I'm not very good so take my advice with a grain of salt, pic related was the best I could do with your reference pic.

[Anonymous No.4920188]

Today's 1 minute gestures.
What should I be aiming for? What am I doing right/wrong?

[Anonymous No.4920189]

>>4918320
I have a problem thinking legs in gesture drawing.
I find drawing the head, torso and arms pretty organic and fluid but then I "block" at the legs, I can't seem to find it as intuitiva as the rest. Any advice on the matter? (sorry for crappy photo)

[Anonymous No.4920190]

How do you guys hold your pencil when drawing?

[Anonymous No.4920194]

>>4920188
learn better shapes?
Lines of yours look like a 5 year old tried to draw. Better use simple 3D shapes imo.

[Anonymous No.4920198]

>>4919780
what do you mean go easy? you should draw them in different poses and find out any other weakness you have

[Anonymous No.4920204]

>>4919776
looks good so far, the only thing i see might be a problem is the right should(her left) it feels like it sticking out too much for that pose

[Anonymous No.4920205]

Still working on the legs, can't get them quite right.
Give me your harshest critique, I want to get better

[Anonymous No.4920207]

>>4920188
You don't have enough line control and observation skills to do 1 minute gestures.
Do 10-15 minutes. Focus on accuracy and line control.
The biggest improvement a beginner could make is by simply putting more time into their lines and observation and not rushing them.

[Anonymous No.4920209]

>>4920190
Overhand for initial sketch and tripod for everything else.

[Anonymous No.4920212]

>>4920188
You should try to use the bean when doing timed gestures its quicker and help you show the pose clear. Also watch vilppu gestures those helped me a lot

[Anonymous No.4920214]

>>4920207
Thank you. I'm reading Keys to drawing and he says to try 1 minute gestures, but I guess that's mostly to experience the exercise, not to keep doing it that way.
I'll try 10 minutes next time.

[Anonymous No.4920218]

>>4920189
Learn legs and 3D shapes (legs = tubes)?

I mean come on, what's wrong with all begs...
>I can't draw X how do I become better at drawing X?
>Just learn X through books and video tutorials
>Thanks for help

[Anonymous No.4920226]

>>4920205
Should the legs be bigger/thicker for that body size. his large stomach makes him look hefty but the legs makes him look weird. try looking at sumo wrestler when they are in the squat position that might help

[Anonymous No.4920246]

>>4918553
ok crab

[Anonymous No.4920250]

>>4920205
Amazing upper body design but I'm not digging the autistic little chubby legs. With your skill level you can do a lot better.

[Anonymous No.4920253]

>>4919066
big retard imo

[Anonymous No.4920277]

>>4920140
>Flesh it out
i dont know how :( i dont even know what you mean because im so beg, they all seem finished to me

[Anonymous No.4920281]

how should I continue from here

[Anonymous No.4920285]

>>4920281
Loomis.

[Anonymous No.4920306]

why does drawing feel like a far away unreachable elysium in the sky /beg/?

am i NGMI?

[Anonymous No.4920308]

>>4920198
>what do you mean go easy?
i'm saying not to
but thank you

[Anonymous No.4920311]

I don't get it. All these pros say to not copy the reference but if don't copy it, i get it wrong.

[Anonymous No.4920317]

>>4920311
they're confusing /beg/s to kill any competition, basically herding any beginners to ngmi

[Anonymous No.4920331]

>>4920311
do both

[Anonymous No.4920334]

>>4920198
>>4920308
But I’m saying, if I fix that stuff you mentioned am I expected to believe I made the perfect image? Like what am I doing

[Anonymous No.4920336]

>>4920331
reference or imagination? if reference whered you get them

[Anonymous No.4920361]

>>4920189
throwing down a line to represent the ground like in >>4918852 helps me, connecting the figure to something instead of legs flailing around in empty space.

[Anonymous No.4920374]

>>4920334
what type of drawing are you trying to achieve? cartoonish, realism, or something in between. right now your drawing leans towards cartoonish which is good for comics and such but if you want your drawing to look more realistic focus on proportion (ie. bigger head, shorter legs)

[Anonymous No.4920389]

>>4920336
not the guy who responded to, but the croquis cafe is great for "live" figure drawing but if you want picture references the sticky has some sites and you can try /hr/

[Anonymous No.4920392]

>>4920389
cheers boss

[Anonymous No.4920403]

hey /beg/, I've finally made the decision to actually do some actual, real studying.
did this last night, obviously I ignored the hair and face, just because I was more concerned about the body, as that's something I seem to be having problems with. I'll do some more sketching later today.

Crits, comments, memes appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4920407]

>>4920403
well its pretty good and youve got some form but get some measuring going, look how fat your leg is

[Anonymous No.4920412]

[Anonymous No.4920421]

>>4920412
reference?

[Anonymous No.4920423]

>>4920374
Cartoony I suppose but is there really nothing to elevate my drawings? I know there is because when i post in style they tell me to come here. Perhaps this isn’t even the best of drawings to drone on about though. I’ll do different poses

[Anonymous No.4920431]

>>4920403
You made her thicc but kept her proportionate and in perspective correctly , I'd say rotate the pelvis more to accentuate the gesture as it's pointing down compared to ref which is throwing it back in the air. And the front foot looks a little small, draw a plumbline from the knees and you'll see

[Anonymous No.4920433]

>>4920403
angle on the far leg is off, on ref it's sloped from ground to upper left and only curves slightly to get to the pelvis.
your coom brain took over and made her front thigh too thicc, which moved her heel and threw you off. you can see the toe poking out in front of her knee in the ref.

[Anonymous No.4920435]

>>4920412
Not /beg/ fuck off intoid

[Anonymous No.4920440]

>>4920403
this is a good attempt. like the other anon said your proportions are all over the place.
1. your head is smaller than the ref, in the ref her head is leaning towards the camera so it looks bigger
2. your twist of the torso is barely there look at the bellybutton of the ref and how it is above her elbow
3. the neck and shoulder area is spread out in your drawing but in the ref it is tuck closer
4. the front leg is too thick and wrong angle look at the knee, shoulder, and face of the ref and compare to your

[Anonymous No.4920442]

Best course on landscape drawing that isn’t painting

[Anonymous No.4920444]

>>4920423
without saying what kind of drawing you want to achieve the only things I can say you should work on is proportion and perspective.

[Anonymous No.4920445]

>>4920435
That's extremely /beg/. If you think that's /int/ you must be the lowest of the /beg/shitters. PYW and prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.4920449]

the /int/ witchhunt is fucking hilarious, imagine being so insecure that another person's drawings send you into a blind rage

[Anonymous No.4920459]

>>4920407
>>4920431
>>4920433
>>4920440
thanks lads, I appreciate it

[Anonymous No.4920461]

>>4919599
Hamster

[Anonymous No.4920465]

>>4920461
are you drawing with watercolor and if you are what paper are you using and how much does it cost

[Anonymous No.4920468]

>>4920449
Its just one guy that only wants the /beg/ threads to be full of people at his level or lower (and he sucks ass so that bar is really damn low)

[Anonymous No.4920470]

>>4920136
>Hey Disney fag,
>you draw from ref of imagination?
Oh! I got this wrong last time! Apparently the answer is Space Ace or something.

>What resources did you study/learn to get that Disney style
I think it's just something I subconsciously mimicked from watching Disney growing up. It wasn't an intentional look. Hell, I WAS shooting for anime since I know that's all the rage these days. Missed my mark.

[Anonymous No.4920471]

>>4918324
ha ha
I spent a few minutes to follow this picture just to see how it turned out
I mean it's not god awful, but clearly i need to work on how I draw eyes.

[Anonymous No.4920478]

>>4920444
I don’t know how to ask the right questions please help me I’m directionless and have autism

[Anonymous No.4920479]

I want to grind some Loomis after Inktober. Which book should I start with?
"Fun with a pencil" looks like a good starting point, or should I start with Head & Hands, or maybe figure drawing?

[Anonymous No.4920483]

>>4920478
I mean if I ask how I should achieve certain styles people act like I’m trying to get them to do my homework

[Anonymous No.4920496]

>reading a figure drawing book
>draw and do the exercises in the book instead of browsing /ic/ posts about the book on how to study it the best way
>actually become better

[Anonymous No.4920501]

>>4920478
>>4920483
It is fine if you are aimless at the start you can still focus on fundamental like proportions and perspective. As for how to achieve certain styles you just need to copy them, find an artist you want to emulate and try to copy their drawings and once you learn the fundamental you can put a twist on it and make it your style

[Anonymous No.4920505]

>>4920501
How do I improve my depth then because I feel like my drawing look to flat
I suppose they should since they’re “cartoon” but like wait no they’d look better if they werent

[Anonymous No.4920507]

>>4920505
if you want your drawing to look "3D" you want to lean perspective and shading

[Anonymous No.4920514]

>>4920501
>>4920507
Also I’ve been drawing for years but only really studying for a few months
I still feel very aimless because I feel like when I learn something new I feel like I need to rethink everything

[Anonymous No.4920548]

>>4920514
focus on the basic and when you learn new things try to incorporate with what you already learned.

[Anonymous No.4920554]

>>4920548
What are the best ways to really study perspective
Like just drawing boxes have been helping I guess but are more stuff I can do and how to do it right

[Anonymous No.4920556]

>>4920496
What book?

[Anonymous No.4920562]

>ITT

[Anonymous No.4920565]

>>4918903
This is NOT a beginner's work >>4918417 You have got to be shitting me.

[Anonymous No.4920572]

I don't think I will ever figure this out. Hair especially.
It looked fine to me at first, but then I flipped the canvas and also looked at it from afar and noticed proportions are all over the place. Looks more like an ogre.

[Anonymous No.4920577]

>>4920572
Just draw hair bro
Isn’t this great advice

[Anonymous No.4920580]

>>4920572
Looks like it doesn't belong in /beg/

[Anonymous No.4920581]

>>4920554
Learning perspective is hard on to itself, they're book(Frame Perspective) and video that can help. What I think the main idea in perspective is getting you to think in 3d. If you want a more challenge practice than boxes try drawing a figure in an angle then what is shown(.ie if you see a model looking at the viewer and sitting try to draw them if you underneath them or behind them)

[Anonymous No.4920583]

>>4920572
Don't outline the hairline lmao it's like a watermelon helmet, when in doubt just hatch the motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.4920588]

>>4920580
I'm flattered, but there are far too many mistakes in that one to make it not /beg/

>>4920577
The advice I see the most when it comes to hair is to use shapes and block it out in large chunks but I really don't like that "fuzzy" look you get when you do that. I tried it a bit here, but especially the ponytail turned out terrible because I don't really know how to handle it there.

>>4920583
Yeah initially I didn't have the outline but it looked really weird, like it was floating on the top of the head. So I attempted to just add a quick shadow to the roots to make it feel more grounded but it ended up being just a line.

[Anonymous No.4920589]

>>4920135
Flip your canvas, retard.

[Anonymous No.4920596]

>>4920412
Uhuh, this one surely does wear his mask, look at the tan lines, try to normalize the skintone a bit.

[Anonymous No.4920601]

>>4920556
Vilppu's drawing manual

[Anonymous No.4920604]

>>4919725
>>4919780
Finally some lass decided to kiss pepe the frog he became a person. Please review your figure drawing fundies especially proportions, legs too long, face like pepe.

[Anonymous No.4920653]

>>4920572
use ref

[Anonymous No.4920669]

>>4920601
I'll check it out. Hopefully I'll get better with it. If I don't, I'm blaming you anon.

[Anonymous No.4920677]

>>4920669
you should also watch his videos I prefer those better

[Anonymous No.4920680]

>>4920653
Afraid to say I did, although it was from a video game which always has its' problems.
Thanks for the paintover, I'll look at it closer and see what I can improve

[Anonymous No.4920684]

>>4920677
which videos in particular should I start with?

[Anonymous No.4920691]

>>4920684
Drawing manual, chapter 01, they go well with the book.
>>4920669
sure, it's impossible to not get better with Vilppu

[Anonymous No.4920725]

>>4920554
the only thing beyond boxes is more boxes.

[Anonymous No.4920729]

Started drawing a bit more carefully and cross-reference more as Huston teaches. Really liking how my figure drawing improves lately.

[Anonymous No.4920745]

i drew this rat in an alley for inktober, and people always seem impressed by 5pp. its just a trick. its not that hard. i havent mastered it, but i thought if i showed you how i do it that more people might try it.

Just draw a circle. dead center is the vanishing point for depth straight back. the 12 a'clock vanishing point is where every line going straight up converges, same for left and right and down. In this picture i fucked up some of the proportions. the rat is way too big.

but basically my advice for you, to get better than me, is to practice cubes in this perspective. its fun. just figure out how the lines would curve. and then you can put things in the cubes.

the perspective is very forgiving. people are usually impressed that you even tried and it distorts enough that they don't really notice some of the mistakes that would be glaringly obvious in 3pp like the proportions of the rat for example.

[Anonymous No.4920746]

>>4920745

[Anonymous No.4920757]

How do I soften my core shadows and shadows in general they always look like a band around the form when I draw traditional

[Anonymous No.4920810]

IM FEEEEEELING IT

[Anonymous No.4920816]

>>4920691
>sure, it's impossible to not get better with Vilppu
I watched his entire figure drawing course on nma and didn't get a slightest bit better. He is a meme.

[Anonymous No.4920822]

>>4920816
>watched
did you try drawing and practicing?

[Anonymous No.4920824]

>>4920816
Bad news, but you're NGMI

[Anonymous No.4920829]

>>4920822
Of course I fucking did, lemme guess, now you're gonna say I just didn't practice enough/practiced it wrong?

[Anonymous No.4920843]

>>4920829
Yes

[Anonymous No.4920850]

>>4920829
Never forget: you're complete shit until you're perfect.

[Anonymous No.4920900]

>>4919848
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.4920925]

>>4920900
That he should send a text. It says it right there.

[Anonymous No.4921084]

>>4920900
He means that you should become a tranny with a leftist political bias in order for you to have success with /beg/ tier art

[Anonymous No.4921127]

>>4920188
These aren't gesture drawings. Work on doing proper gesture. Simple lines, showing motion. Not construction and box shapes.

Work bigger.

[Anonymous No.4921142]

>>4921084
>become a tranny
This is very insulting. You can't just BECOME a transgendered person. You have to be born with dysmorphia and then go through the process of addressing it. It's not a fashion or political statement. I'm quite triggered by your insensitivity.

[Anonymous No.4921149]

>>4920604
>face like pepe.
that's a problem how

[Anonymous No.4921166]

making gains. trying to experiment with features so some of these barely look human

[Anonymous No.4921254]

[Anonymous No.4921260]

>>4921149
Sterperd frergperster

[Anonymous No.4921266]

>>4921142
Do you not realize what site you're on?

[Anonymous No.4921281]

>>4921142
Man detected. Typing like a foid won’t make you one

[Anonymous No.4921305]

>>4921254
This should be in the coomer art thread. It's like raw sexual energy distilled to the point of silliness.
>>4921266
There's a /LGBT board, so clearly a progressive, welcoming one.
>>4921281
MODS! This person is misgendering me!

[Anonymous No.4921337]

>>4921305
>misgendering
kys

[Anonymous No.4921397]

>>4919725
honestly the face is what kills this. The pose isn't bad and the body works, but everything has dimension until you get to the face and then it's a circle with :^) on it also the hands (especially with fingers showing) could use some work.

[Anonymous No.4921511]

Tips on practicing form?

[Anonymous No.4921512]

>>4921511
loomis

[Anonymous No.4921528]

>>4921512
Every guide places the eyes differently, Which way is correct?

[Anonymous No.4921531]

>>4921528
Guidelines are an abstraction. They're arbitrary. There's no correct way.

[Anonymous No.4921535]

>>4921166
One of them reminds me of this.

[Anonymous No.4921576]

Second portrait of the week, remarkably better that the first

[Anonymous No.4921582]

>>4921576
forgot to rotate, sorry

[Anonymous No.4921590]

>>4921582

[Anonymous No.4921596]

>>4921582
brilliant

[Anonymous No.4921618]

>>4921582
is that the coomer?

[Anonymous No.4921675]

I didn't measure enough. I did this mainly to practice values but I failed that too.

[Anonymous No.4921701]

tried a new brush, worked pretty well

[Anonymous No.4921702]

>>4921618
Yes

[Anonymous No.4921746]

New Thread

>>4921745

[Anonymous No.4922153]

>>4920281
You don't.

[Anonymous No.4922321]

>>4921675
Ya disneyed her

[Anonymous No.4923236]

Is he a cutie

[Anonymous No.4923523]

>>4923236
now draw the rest of the body

[Anonymous No.4923542]

>>4919266
Thanks senpai.