Art Schedule

[Anonymous No.4913918]

For those who improved in short (as in 1-2 years max) amounts of time, what did your drawing schedule look like? I'm thinking of implementing pic related. My goals are to draw character/people focused painting/illustrations. (Later on I would like to do environments, but that is not my focus right now).

Does my schedule look alright? Should I focus on any other areas/subjects more? I will post my art below in a moment so that my weaknesses can be more apparent to others.

[Anonymous No.4913931]

don't go on a strict schedule if you aren't on one already, you have to build it up slowly if you're doing it by yourself or else you will do it for a few days and quit like everyone else before you

[Anonymous No.4913935]

You're probably not going to draw for 8 hours per day. You just aren't. Where is the time available to learn new information? Are you telling me after 8 hours you're going to sit and stare at a screen for at least another 2 hours?

[Anonymous No.4913937]

I have seen many threads like this...

[Anonymous No.4913941]

>>4913918
I know this is gonna sound like hippie bullshit but the only schedule you should adopt is the one that's working for you.

More important than schedule is your ability to be deliberate in your studies. You are not gonna find a single size fits all answer to that question.

[Anonymous No.4913942]

>>4913937
No guys you don’t get it, he’s the one, he’s the chosen one that will actually carry out what he says he’s gonna do

[Anonymous No.4913944]

>it's another help me GIT GUD in (x amount of years) thread

you people focus more on schedules than your own artwork

[Anonymous No.4913945]

>>4913918
Do you have a job?

[Anonymous No.4913951]

>>4913918
Do you not have friends to talk to daily
Do you read nothing, watch nothing
Do you have no job or no school
I say all of this but when I think about it harder I've totally had days where I draw from 9 to 1 and from 2 to 5 so maybe it sounds worse on paper than it actually does.

[Anonymous No.4913957]

>>4913918
it’s true. It’s how most professional artists get into the industry. Just draw 20 hours a day for 2 weeks. You’ll feel like shit, but by the end you’ll easily be able to master anatomy, perspective, colour and rendering. Michelangelo is so famous because he managed to do it in a week solid with no sleep.

[Anonymous No.4913981]

>>4913931
I guess my sort of mindset on this would be to treat it like a job. I've had many jobs in the past where I didn't want to work that day but I still did.
>>4913941
I suppose you have a point. However, I feel with my current rate of progress I am not improving fast enough. Possibly even stagnating/getting worse.
>>4913937
>>4913942
I'm willing to try it out. If it doesn't work out, then I don't really see much downside to it "not" working out.
>>4913945
No job. No school either.
>>4913951
I have no friends. I watched/read things I enjoyed back when I had a job on my time off/day offs. I guess my POV would be that this schedule would be like how a job is. A lot of people with jobs still have hobbies/do other things besides work.
>>4913957
I have no illusion that I am going to become a master in a short amount of time. I am hoping to improve, is all. I'm not hoping to "make it" either. I'm aware art takes a long time to actually "get good" at. The best I am hoping for within 1-2 years is to be able to take a few commissions here and there.

[Anonymous No.4913984]

why not use the identical thread already on this topic >>4908396

[Anonymous No.4914008]

>>4913918
>Skip Dynamic Sketching/Perspective
NGMI
Is literally impossible to learn anatomy if you don't know perspective/DS
>Color Painted
NGMI
If you can't even draw, why bother with color.
My advice would be:
9:00AM-2PM Dynamic Sketching for 2-3 months
2PM-4PM Free Draw
Learn At least Dynamic Sketching,will help you with everything literally.

1st Dynamic Sketching
2nd Figure Drawing
3rd Anatomy
4th Advanced Perspective(HTD by Scott Fucking Robertson)
5th Color and Light
6th Become Gi
Done

I cant understand why people avoid perspective

[Anonymous No.4914017]

>>4914008
I didn't exactly skip perspective, I'm not starting from 0 in regards to art. However, I haven't gone too far into the subject, I've only read through Perspective Made Easy. Would you still recommend Dynamic Sketching?

[Anonymous No.4914023]

>>4914017
Yep

[Anonymous No.4914029]

>>4914023
I see, thank you anon, I'll be taking a look into It then.

[Anonymous No.4914063]

>>4913918
I draw similar subjects to what you want to draw, and I improved pretty fast in the timeframe you gave, and am still working on improving.
Honestly I never thought in terms of schedules like this. I think a week ahead at most, but usually less than that even, like a day or two. What do I need to work on tomorrow? Day after?
I always think things are going to more smoothly than they do too, but then new questions and problems arise out of study and work. That's the enjoyable part though, that's where the real gains are made. If you rush that part, you get nothing and just waste your time.

So take your time and respond to your needs and wants day by day. Build up to more and tougher work through habit and by degrees. Use self feedback from the part that are giving you trouble today to keep you on the right path. Art is less like following a freeway by an official map; more like fumbling down a narrow country road by lantern light, and as you get closer to the city, everything around you gradually brightens.

[Anonymous No.4914413]

>>4913918
honestly i think you're biting off more than you can chew. are you really going to dedicate 6-7 hours a day to art? consistently? from zero? i dont know about your work ethic, but few people have the discipline or the passion to pursue a schedule that rigorous for something they have no experience in.
i'd consider myself to have improved from /beg/ to low low low /int/- maybe not even /int/- in about two years without grinding too heavily. i drew sporadically whenever i was in the mood, maybe with at most a month of time in between.
art isnt something you can just pick up and study like math or science where all you need to do is read about a concept and then apply it. it's a creative medium that is a pain to learn, and getting art to click for you is something many people never manage.
my advice for you? dont even attempt a schedule that harsh. draw when you want, whenever you feel like it. put on some music, maybe get into the zone- but never ever force yourself to draw. if you make your hobby a chore then it's no longer a hobby.

[Anonymous No.4914420]

>>4914008
>Scott Fucking Robertson
Way to discredit your entire post

[Anonymous No.4914447]

>>4913918

based dave rapoza schedule is a good start.

personally i'd recommend scheduling 6 hours early in the day, so once you've finished that 6 hours you can feel free to keep working at it, or take it easy after fulfilling that quota.

[Anonymous No.4914472]

My secret is that I like to draw and look forward to doing it. I want to bring my ideas to life, which is why I can work for 6-7 hours on creative pieces, because I enjoy the act of doing it. And when I feel as though my skills are not up to snuff, I look through references, books, and the works of other artists to see what they did right and what I did wrong. If you are forcing yourself to do studies all day, stop it. Find another hobby, or get a regular job like everyone else.

Being 25-30 years old and suddenly having an artistic epiphany just to focus on grinding loomis heads for 8 hours a day will not make you magically good in art.

[Anonymous No.4914477]

>>4914472

pyw

[Anonymous No.4914504]

>>4914477
I think he just did

[Anonymous No.4914514]

>>4913918
you can do it, i've been drawing for 8h a day for quite some time now

[Anonymous No.4914556]

>>4914472
Never take advice from someone who tells you to stop something you love when it gets hard

[Anonymous No.4914579]

>>4913918

[Anonymous No.4914654]

Where’s the anime titties

[Anonymous No.4914676]

NGMI: The Thread

[Anonymous No.4914687]

>>4914676
pyw

[Anonymous No.4914709]

mine for today, based on dave rapoza schedule

[Anonymous No.4914716]

>>4914709
why work at night, humans werent made for that, youre cutting 3 years out of ur life

[Anonymous No.4914783]

>>4914716
Yeah I understand you, because of irl stuff I can’t wake up at 6 yet, but I want to, I’m big into circadian rhythms, and yeah, “work” is coom commissions

[Anonymous No.4914999]

Is there a schedule for somebody who has a day job? although I like to fill some gaps in my workday with some doodles from images I find on my phone(pic related). Like a 5pm to 11pm schedule? Am I ngmi?

[Anonymous No.4915019]

>>4914999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLqWX7onVmU&t=518s

Feng Zhu outlines a schedule for studying drawing with only 2 hours a day to spare. Really, its just doing studies. Study whatever subject you want. Draw from reference a lot, using 3d volumes and build your visual library slowly over time. The more hours you put in, the better.

There's no "one royal road" to drawing. Really, any kind of drawing will do you good. But in the beginning, its good to draw from reference more often.

[Anonymous No.4915273]

>>4914783
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4915301]

>>4913918

Everybody knows becoming better at art takes time and dedication. Hardly anyone talks about studying things in the right order.

Let me give you an analogy: When learning to do read, does one go right away to reading the classics and other huge tomes? No, you start way at the beginning with the alphabet, then linking letters to create phonemic awareness, then you start reading words through phonics and sight words, then you start reading sentence, paragraphs, and beyond.

Learning to draw is like learning to read. It's a skill, but you need to get fundamentals down first before you jump too far into stuff like anatomy.

The most obvious first step of art is markmaking. You need to know how to make marks on a page. Then you need to be able to create shapes. Then you need to be able to create forms in perspective. Then you need to be able to combine those forms in perspective.

As such, the rudiments of art and drawing in general are: markmaking, shape, form, and perspective.

Anatomy literally means jack shit if you can't even combine simple forms together.

Light, color, and rendering mean jack shit if your drawing is flat and looks like garbage.

Your drawing skills are your most important ones. After that, other things not only make more sense, but they also come way faster than if you studied them at the beginning.

As such, I recommend solely studying those things for several months under decent tutelage. It's important that you get an expert's eye on your work so you can learn from your mistakes.

Okay. Now what? What's a good resource?

I'd recommend taking the Dynamic Sketching courses from CGMA. Take them back to back. They are 8 weeks long each and you get direct feedback from industry professionals. After that, you can study other things with relative ease.

And honestly, just spending a few hours a day on these courses will do you fine. You don't need to spend all day on them. But more time is more mileage.

[Anonymous No.4915584]

>>4915301
>$1200 to learn to draw
Come on man. All you had to say was Vilppu

[Anonymous No.4915773]

If you're going to make a schedule for study, don't study alone if you can do otherwise. Having someone to keep you accountable and push you forward is invaluable.

>>4915584
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[Anonymous No.4915801]

>>4914008
Lol it is sheldue and not pre learn you dumb fuck, how ic can have most stupid people on 4chan!?

[Anonymous No.4915803]

>>4914579
Blyat

[Anonymous No.4916231]

>Meanwhile in Japan

[Anonymous No.4916251]

>>4916231
>assistants arrive
>assistants never leave

[Anonymous No.4916256]

>>4916231
how are they okay doing that?
that is seriously unhealthy

[Anonymous No.4916261]

>>4916256
literally asian genes.

[Anonymous No.4916289]

>>4916231
>2 hrs sleep monday
>breakfast only

[Anonymous No.4916301]

>>4916261
and early death

[Anonymous No.4917062]

you won't improve if you're still holding emotional baggage

[Anonymous No.4917132]

>>4916301
Don't Japanese people have like some of the highest lifespans in the world?

[Anonymous No.4917167]

>>4917132
they're not all mangakas you weeb

[Anonymous No.4917434]

>>4917132
Highest suicide rate and highest adult virginity.

[Anonymous No.4919204]

>>4913918
2h hours of fundie grinding, 30 minutes of fundie reading, rest to draw coom as a reward

[Anonymous No.4919388]

Put some time in your week to do observational sketching or plein air shit.

[Anonymous No.4921510]

>>4916231
Didn't miyazaki talk about how his old peers would mock his lack of work and his response is well they're dead now.

[Anonymous No.4921513]

>>4917132
Yeah the ones that live healthy lifestyles. Those rates include shit like people who do light physical labor literally their entire lives and eat fish.

[Anonymous No.4921514]

>>4921510
That's metal is true.

[Anonymous No.4921534]

>>4921510
miyazaki, no, he was a workaholic cigarette addicted piece of shit who never game me the proper attention