/beg/ BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.4880863]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

previous thread >>4876476 #

READ THE STICKY for some guidance:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - preferably ~1000px, <1.1mb

BE ACTIVE AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS - all it takes is a little feedback to give someone a lot of motivation.

[Anonymous No.4880909]

Any good tuts on shading muscles behind the skin?

[Anonymous No.4880911]

Just testing out colours.
Top-right is eyeballing and then cartoonifying colours.
Bottom-left, I used a colour picker.
Bottom right, I used the knowledge I got from colour picking.

[Anonymous No.4880920]

>>4880911
Color pick and use the gradient tool.
Gradient is trendy since 2018.

[Anonymous No.4880941]

feedback?

[Anonymous No.4880942]

I need a redline before proceeding any further.

[Anonymous No.4880949]

>>4880942
dios mio

[Anonymous No.4880950]

Fuck this shit, i'm over. Deep down i always knew i didn't born for this. How can Dojin Otome do so cute girls with less damn pixels, I want to die twice™.

[Anonymous No.4880951]

>>4880942
Fuck is wrong with you

[Anonymous No.4880952]

painting is so much more fun than drawing

[Anonymous No.4880953]

just a reminder that monet didn't start painting until his 30s, there's time for all of us anons.

[Anonymous No.4880957]

>>4880942
- go easy on the crease lines, they are too strong. Use 2-tone or 3-tone shading instead.

- She has mosquito pricks breasts, maybe you were going for that? It wouldn't hurt to increase their diameter. Not depth, just diameter.


Some of your contour lines are very ornate (belly button, vulva) while others are very simple (face, ass). The ornateness makes it look very fleshy (pic related) which I find off-putting. Just my personal preference.

[Anonymous No.4880961]

Is this worth going forward with?

[Anonymous No.4880962]

>>4880942
>greta boobs

[Anonymous No.4880971]

>>4880962
she looks like she is 9 at most.

[Anonymous No.4881009]

Thread's already cursed by disgusting paedos.
How do colourful children's cartoons make a mix of high saturation colours look good? They might use complementary colours for individual characters, but all their colours are not complementary when they're on screen together. Is it because we don't expect them to look realistic that it works?

[Anonymous No.4881020]

>>4881009
>a mix of high saturation colours
It's bright and grabs your attention. It's not supposed to be a work of art.

[Anonymous No.4881029]

>>4880961
ok anon, you're so close to not being beg. I've been here since you're very first post on this thread and (You) are like 95% of the way to int. I dont even see that many errors here desu anon

[Anonymous No.4881034]

>>4880961
finish your work

[Anonymous No.4881046]

>>4880942
see you next week

[Anonymous No.4881048]

>>4880942
Eat shit and die.

[Anonymous No.4881057]

shitty late night fruitposting

[Anonymous No.4881061]

>>4881048
eat dirt and drink bread.

[Anonymous No.4881068]

>>4880942
Based.

[Anonymous No.4881075]

>>4880961
the answer is invariably yes. Finish everything you can anon.

[Anonymous No.4881125]

>>4880961
Do you always draw in red&blue? You've posted here before, right?

[Anonymous No.4881130]

I drew my raccoon waifu as a loli. I’m going to hell.

[Anonymous No.4881153]

>>4881029
>>4881075
Thanks for the feedback, guys.

>>4881125
Yes. I sometimes use pens, too.

[Anonymous No.4881178]

brehs this is too far to fix i'm ready to abandon..

[Anonymous No.4881180]

i dont think im feeling the form, friends.....
hard round brush is fun though.

[Anonymous No.4881192]

>>4881178
Make a solid base as a sketch. Dont rush to rendering.

[Anonymous No.4881214]

>>4880961 This is looking awsome!

I agree with >>4881029 but I think you should work on heads and faces more. The bodies you draw are great but the heads you draw don't look like they're attached to the body.

[Anonymous No.4881221]

>>4880962
she's a fucking kid why are you people concerned about her fucking teeters.

[Anonymous No.4881233]

>>4881178
Why didn't you copy the face silhouette if you copied the eyes? Might as well.

[Anonymous No.4881238]

>>4881130
cute

[Anonymous No.4881257]

>>4881233
I only copied the hair from that drawing

[Anonymous No.4881267]

Hows my head

[Anonymous No.4881268]

>>4880941
bee ambitious

[Anonymous No.4881271]

biggest brainlet coming through, any tips in perspective? or actually anything in general

[Anonymous No.4881277]

>>4881267
needs more loomis
what you're doing is the opposite of loomis

[Anonymous No.4881284]

>>4881271
Compare your pic to the reference. You're off in several places. The arms are tiny and at the wrong angles. Compare his right hand in both pics. The knee is very obviously misplaced. Neck is too long.

Do some more work on the most basic parts of the gesture. Just get your stick figure right first. Your construction is off because you've gotten the gesture wrong.

I don't mean to rip on you. Keep practicing and you'll figure it out sooner than you expect.

[Anonymous No.4881291]

>>4881267
Draw the brow bone bending around the outer edge of the eye. The eyebrow looks like he's making a O_O face as it but the eyelids don't match.

[Anonymous No.4881293]

>>4881257
>>4881178

You don't have the skill to draw from imagination right now. Find art you like and copy it as accurately as you can. Look at Bargue plates if you want artwork specifically designed for this.

[Anonymous No.4881303]

>>4881284
No it's really helpful, I never really understood gesture, tried implementing foreshortening but absolutely failed at it

[Anonymous No.4881310]

>>4881303
Gesture is is just a stick figure that you build construction on top of. Don't be confused by sham artists who try to make it into something complicated. It's like the armature that sculptors build up on and should look similar. You want focus on getting angles and proportions right.

[Anonymous No.4881317]

>>4880942
Welp I just fapped but I can go again.

[Anonymous No.4881319]

studying ayami kojima

[Anonymous No.4881322]

>>4881310
Based.

[Anonymous No.4881358]

>>4881277
wow thanks
>>4881291
bro placing the eyes in the socket fucks me up so bad any tips?

[Anonymous No.4881373]

>>4881319
I love your stuff bro.

>>4881358
Feel your brow bone. Your eyebrows follow the brow bone. They sit on the underside when they're close to your nose and move more to the surface as you move towards the ear.

[Anonymous No.4881378]

>>4881373
thanks man.

[Anonymous No.4881383]

How do i make it more appealing?

[Anonymous No.4881390]

>>4881383
I might not know what I'm talking about but the face appears fairly long and the framing with the hair makes it appear longer still. If you're going for attractive the face is just too long in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.4881394]

How do I use the Drawing on the Right side exercises?
Do I just go through them all and try repeating them daily, or what?

[Anonymous No.4881397]

>>4881373
i see what you mean how does this look?

[Anonymous No.4881401]

I know I need to just learn fundies, but it's so much more fun to attempt things out of my skill level and give-up before wasting too much time.

Also trying to learn CSP and using a Deco Pro tablet for the first time today.. had only used a non-pro Intuos before this and not very much.

Tell me why this is a waste of time and I should go read some books first instead.

[Anonymous No.4881402]

>>4881397
Much better

[Anonymous No.4881406]

>>4881401
Aside from the poor art in general, one of my biggest issues is probably trying to fiddle with brushes/settings too much.

Hard round brush on the other hand feels too simple. Any good suggestions on simple brushes without being too limiting?

I've already tried PS, Krita, CSP recently which is also excessive for my skill level.

[Anonymous No.4881409]

>>4881406
Don't get caught up in the little things.
When I look at your drawing, I don't think "Hm, they are using the wrong brush."
I think "They are not good at drawing human figures".
Better tools do not mean better art.

[Anonymous No.4881415]

>>4881402
Thanks for your help

[Anonymous No.4881436]

After years of picking up drawing and just overwhelming myself with what to do, I've started scribbling out some of the things in the books the sticky recommends.
Hopefully I'll be at a level where I feel comfortable posting here and asking for advice soon.

[Anonymous No.4881443]

>>4881378
>>4881319
not beg

[Anonymous No.4881446]

>>4881443
last time i went and posted in /alt/ i just got bullied for 2 whole threads.

[Anonymous No.4881448]

>>4881406

[Anonymous No.4881450]

>>4881446
/alt/ is crab central.
post in the regular draw thread.

[Anonymous No.4881501]

Is draw a box worth your time? Or is the 250 boxes a meme? To me it seems some repetition is needed to get things set in stone, but so far i have mixed thoughts towards the whole thing. I picked it up because it seemed to be the most acessible way to start to get to draw, the most "streamlined" course, and it hasn't dissapointed me in that way, but it just seems that at certain parts the author goes into autistic monologues that don't really help to understand things. I'm not saying "technicalities", specifically, but talking more of the author saying things "his own way" rather than saying concise things that actually make sense. That and that generally the videos seem really low effort. So to rephrase my question, would i be better off bothering with some other resource, or does it really make little difference?

[Anonymous No.4881504]

>>4881501
Drawing boxes in perspective will help you. It doesn't have to be 250 and you can stop if you get bored. It shouldn't be the only thing you do. It won't take you that long even if you do all 250.

[Anonymous No.4881508]

>>4881501
>scrreenshotting chaturbate models for reference
based

[Anonymous No.4881522]

>>4880961
Is this the power of mikeymemega anons?

[Anonymous No.4881532]

>>4881390
Make it short and cute like anime huh

[Anonymous No.4881534]

>>4881532
yes

[Anonymous No.4881538]

>>4881534
Is doing a few pages of Drawabox exercises and some of the Right Side exercises a day a decent way to start, or should I be adding something else?

[Anonymous No.4881539]

>>4881538
Oops, didn't mean to quote.

[Anonymous No.4881545]

>>4881501
Just do it. If you've started it, do it. By the time you're starting to get good, you will have drawn literally HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of heads. Hundreds of figures etc.

By the time you get there 250 boxes will seem like a hop skip and a jump by comparison, so just knock it out and move on - the intuitive understanding of perspective you gain by drawing rudimentary solids will literally prop up the rest of your skills forever, so just look at it as an investment in a good foundation.

[Anonymous No.4881551]

>>4881538
Sounds great. Drawing on the Right Side is all about observational drawing and draw a box is about constructive drawing, aka the two horsemen of the GMI-calypse. As long as your practicing hard that's a pretty good jumping off point (although I suspect you'll bore of Right Side as you get better at perspective and you'll want to move on to something more academic).

[Anonymous No.4881555]

blotched attempt at doing >>4873732, something about being this trash at likeness irks the fuck out of me and im a goddamn weeb

[Anonymous No.4881568]

>>4881551
Yeah, I did all the exercises up to the upside-down Picasso drawing last night from Right Side.
Planning on spending about 2 hours a night watching streams and practicing the various exercises, more if I can fit it in.
Never really picked up a pencil for anything more than writing or graphing, so this is all pretty new to me. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4881570]

>>4881555
If you're actually trying to do a likeness, you should think about your approach. You are symbol drawing, which is a big obstacle for a lot of beginners.

Rather than drawing what you see, you're drawing symbols. For instance, you see an eye, so you draw the cartoon eye you know best (rather than the specific eye of the actual person you're looking at).

You should learn some realism, specifically the actual construction of real features, the human head and it's proportions etc.

Not only will it help you be able to draw likenesses from life, but the understanding of a realistic human form will make your stylized / anime drawings much, much better. Real mangaka are not generally slouches in the realism department, and they apply real life knowledge to the problem or manga stylized drawings.

[Anonymous No.4881579]

>>4881568
Careful with the watching streams part, don't let it become a distraction. Focused attention on what you're doing is critical for drawing improvement.

I just took a stab at some cubes for my own curiosity. In 5 minutes I drew 7 cubes in various orientations with 2 sides shaded by hatching. At that pace I could complete the 250 cubes exercise in about 3 hours. I'm not saying you should try to work that fast, but I'm saying if you're focused it should take you less than a couple weeks with a couple hours a weeknight working on it (I'm aware there are more exercises than that, but the 250 seems to be the point where a lot of beginners start to question the process).

If it's taking much longer than that you may not be focusing enough, or you may not be drawing enough each day.

[Anonymous No.4881580]

>>4881570
Not him but I'm interested in starting realism but have no clue where to begin. Ive only been drilling forms and basic perspective.
Can you reccomend some books or courses about construction and the planes of the skull

[Anonymous No.4881586]

>>4880942
MODDDDSSSS

[Anonymous No.4881590]

>>4881221
She is almost an adult, she just looks like a kid because her mommy drank too much wine when she was pregnant

[Anonymous No.4881592]

>>4881570
You make a good points about constructing humans, I just started doing gesture drawings and actually studying the human figure drawing this past week(which is why I decided to take a crack at the study). But yes this picture kicked my ass, and I will now be reading loomis unironically and any better suggestions you have to learn realism from.

[Anonymous No.4881597]

>>4881446
damn anon what did you post? >>4881319
>>4881378 is so good

[Anonymous No.4881603]

>>4881390

Ok. How to make it even more appealing. I shorten the chin, sharpen it abit more.

[Anonymous No.4881610]

>>4881603
I'm too bad to redline it but your nose is very very weird looking, it looks downward and the nostrils look like holes in a ball instead of something that's on the underside of the nose. Also the mouth is wonky, flip canvas to look at it.

[Anonymous No.4881614]

>>4881592
You have a better foundation than you think, realism will be a lot of fun for you and if you work hard you'll come back to manga ready to beast mode.

Loomis is a great primer. I think you are better off watching actual gesture being done than reading about it and Proko's gestures are pretty good so look up his gesture ones on youtube (the rest of his stuff is great too, his goofy teacher shtick isn't for everyone but it's that or regular dull teacher so take your pick).

Michael Hampton's book is great (he does BEAUTIFUL gestures) if you need a break from Loomis.

[Anonymous No.4881624]

>>4881603
Lower third still feels long. Try moving the chin up so that the distance between the brows and the nostrils, and the nostrils and the chin are the same (i.e. move the chin up so nostrils are dead center).

The left side of the mouth is ambiguous, the brows are thick and not carefully drawn. The hair does not have volume and looks thin (it does not loft with volume but is instead pretty flat on the scalp), the very sharp pointed part of the hair gives the impression of a receding hairline.

The blobby tones in the face are giving a somewhat "middle aged man" impression. The lack of eyelashes, darkly drawn lower lids and very deep upper lid crease aren't helping.

[Anonymous No.4881629]

>>4881614
>his goofy teacher shtick isn't for everyone
who is hating proko's cute little gags? NGMIs!!

[Anonymous No.4881633]

>>4881629
Don't get me wrong I'm a fucking child I love skelly.

[Anonymous No.4881635]

>>4881614
Thanks anon, I'll give them a look.

[Anonymous No.4881640]

>>4881579
Sorry if I'm a bit smallbrain here, but do you mean I should complete the whole Drawabox series of exercises in a couple weeks?
Also the streams shouldn't be an issue, it's mostly just artist drawstreams to keep me motivated and provide background noise.

[Anonymous No.4881641]

>>4881267
It's too round, try cranial mass to be just 1/3 then facial mass 2/3 by making the face longer. (C) Bridgeman, Hampton

[Anonymous No.4881646]

>>4881641
Edit: not necessarily longer, just try to keep with the ratio I gave

[Anonymous No.4881648]

>>4881501
I'm wrapping up DAB in a few days and say with confidence that what you get out of DAB is indicative of what you put into it. Its repeative by design because it giving you good mileage in a 'quick' amount of time. And alternative to DAB would be dynamic sketching method with peter han, (less grinding as well) but learning construction will save your ass like you would've believe once mastered.

[Anonymous No.4881660]

>>4881640
No. I'm specifically referring to the oft discussed "250 boxes" portion.

If you look around here for a while you'll see it referenced a lot in a "do I really have to do 250?" context, which is really not a lot of work and not something people should be struggling to complete.

My point is... don't get bogged down. Just commit, hit it hard, get through it and move on. =)

[Anonymous No.4881664]

>>4881277
It's not correct, but it also is definitely not the opposite of Loomis. It's just an early effort.

[Anonymous No.4881678]

tear it up, i really wanna focus on making my colors pop, is there any advice for that

[Anonymous No.4881706]

>>4881678
Desaturated the colors you don't want to pop, add more value contrast to the ones you do.

[Anonymous No.4881765]

>>4881610
flipped and fixed.

>>4881624
Fucking on point. This guy right here is a pro. Thanks. I am trying to use vague lines to hide my lack of skill and appeal lol.

I felt like i have improve abit. Fun. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4881784]

>>4881765
Please give feedbacks and ideas on how to make it more appealing.

[Anonymous No.4881815]

>>4881660
Ah, gotcha. Thanks, I'm pretty good at sticking to menial tasks so here's hoping I'll manage.

[Anonymous No.4881818]

am i still beg?

[Anonymous No.4881823]

>>4881406
why do you people waste your time trying to render/colour things when you can't even draw properly

[Anonymous No.4881829]

>>4881818
Yes, flip canvas

[Anonymous No.4881831]

>>4881823
Bad advice, this leads to "never finish anything" syndrome which can take years to fight off. Obviously they shouldn't put 40 hours into a polished turd though.

[Anonymous No.4881915]

>>4881823
>you can’t render before you have perfect color theory
>you can’t color before you have perfect lineart
>you can’t ink before you have perfect construction
>you can’t construct until you have perfect perspective
>you can’t draw boxes in perspective until you have perfect straight lines
>wtf you can’t draw before you have perfect composition, how will you know where to put things
and that’s how anon became an eternal beg grinding floating loomis heads

[Anonymous No.4881922]

[Anonymous No.4881926]

>>4881831
>>4881915
Truth. I'm only now struggling to finish anything after many years of brainless grinding.

[Anonymous No.4881933]

>>4881829
Ah shit
Also what's the next rank after beg?

[Anonymous No.4881962]

>>4881933
You are close to upper /beg/ (where I would put myself), next after that is /int/ermediate. The /draw/ thread is usually upper /beg/ and higher atm

[Anonymous No.4881976]

>>4881922
Cool stuff anon, you should polish this some more

[Anonymous No.4881994]

>>4881962
I hope I can make money as int cause I'm running out of school years

[Anonymous No.4881997]

>>4881994
You can make something as upper beg already, but it's hard to find clients and low pay.

[Anonymous No.4882075]

>>4881994
I hope head is not your specialty, you could just make those shitty ass easy to draw tutorials

[Anonymous No.4882093]

>>4881933
there is nothing after /beg/, it is endless.

[Anonymous No.4882134]

>>4881933
there are no ranks, you’re either beg or you’re competent
anyone who makes up retarded labels like upper beg, int, adv, etc is just a retard who never managed to leave beg

[Anonymous No.4882135]

>>4882134
pyw

[Anonymous No.4882144]

>>4882135

[Anonymous No.4882150]

>>4882144
fucking lmao

[Anonymous No.4882227]

>>4882144
https://4archive.org/board/int/thread/67221083/balt-ausnz#p67224964
its been 4 years, complete it already

[Anonymous No.4882236]

>>4882134
Nah I would say competent is intermediate and flawless or extremely appealing is professional level. I do agree that there is no 'higher' or 'lower' within those though.

[Anonymous No.4882250]

>>4882227
how new

[Anonymous No.4882289]

>>4882227
It's actually a lot older than that.

[Anonymous No.4882293]

>>4882236
>there is no 'higher' or 'lower' within those
Pure insanity. Every pro as just as good as every other pro? Fucking kek.

[Anonymous No.4882301]

>>4880942
how the hell is this still up?

[Anonymous No.4882352]

How do I improve this without changing it too much?

[Anonymous No.4882353]

>>4881915
>implying all those things
Based retard
He should of course dabble in those other things from time to time but spreading his focus out on a million subjects isn't a good idea.

[Anonymous No.4882394]

>tfw get up to the upside down picasso and completely butcher it
it's hard to not feel like trash failing all these beginner exercises, but I suppose that's normal huh?

[Anonymous No.4882404]

>>4881590
almost an adult = not an adult. And that makes it worse that you are checking out and discussig the tits of a feebled minded person.

[Anonymous No.4882409]

>>4881818
yes. that jaw line stretched back about 2 inches too fat and her ear is way too small. eyes look flat. teeth are a solid sheet with no depth. you have nice blending in the skin tho, i give you that. mind teling us how you did that

[Anonymous No.4882412]

>>4881922
good highlights. push the shadows.

[Anonymous No.4882419]

>>4882404
>almost an adult = not an adult
not really, it’s why minors are tried as adults when they’re near adulthood

[Anonymous No.4882421]

>>4882404
In my country I could legally bang her so i don't get the puritanism you burgers always trot out

[Anonymous No.4882437]

>>4882421
>17
ahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaa is this what the tantrum is about?
a 17 year old “child”?
fucking lmao even in sweden she was legally ripe at 15

[Anonymous No.4882442]

>>4882437
I thought she was 16 when I said I don't get it, this makes it even more ridiculous

[Anonymous No.4882474]

>>4882409
lasso and airbrush

[Anonymous No.4882496]

>>4881586
FAAAGGOOT

[Anonymous No.4882505]

>>4881267
might be too complicated right now but if you can memorize the reily head its much better than loomis

[Anonymous No.4882518]

What mannequin should I invest in learning? The box one, or the hampton one?

[Anonymous No.4882532]

>>4882518
Try em out and see what you like more, it's a personal preference thing.

[Anonymous No.4882537]

mfw ignored.

[Anonymous No.4882539]

>>4882537
Where is your face? Also what did you post?

[Anonymous No.4882660]

Is going with a grid really the only way to get portraits that actually look like who you are drawing?

[Anonymous No.4882680]

I'm gonna do 25 construction drawings as part of this week's hampton course. I wonder if someone could tell me some problem areas I should aim to fix as I do them.

[Anonymous No.4882695]

>>4881597
i posted this.
they didn't like it at all lol, like i understand it has alot of issues but damn thet ripped on it for a full thread

[Anonymous No.4882698]

>>4882660
Obviously no. Once you've A. gotten good heads in general and B. done lots of comparative measurement drawing, you can do it without a grid.

Usually it involves doing a rough sketch, and then moving things around until they're just right (i.e. "the side of the nostril is just above the corner of the mouth...") but I have seen people do it in a single pass.

[Anonymous No.4882722]

>>4882537
You get used to it after a while. It’s for the best, this place doesn’t really help anyway. Finish a drawing? “Why’d you plush there turd?! Grind fundies!” Spend all your time grinding fundies? “What advice can we give you if we never do anything?” Finish a work with a minor flaw? “OMG! Your feet are too big! You suck and should read more Loomis!”

[Anonymous No.4882726]

>>4882698
I just realized how fucking big i made her chin.
Damn. It was supposed to be a gift, i think I'll just start over since I don't think i can fix it at this point and i already sprayed the fixative

[Anonymous No.4882727]

>>4882680
Try to draw bigger, try to draw cleaner. Be tidy.

Other than that, just post the 1st and 25th one so we can compare and offer advice then, these are good beginner efforts.

[Anonymous No.4882742]

>>4882726
It really isn't bad, I'm sure they'd love it, but nothing wrong with re-doing it. When I do portrait paintings I do them several times to get it right anyway (Roughs, fairly complete graphite, small color rough painting, draw the face in graphite on canvas, do final painting). It's normal to have to redo things to get them right in art.

[Anonymous No.4882766]

>>4882742
I asked her bf and a couple of friends and they say it's pretty good. I don't know what to do, it's like a week i keep staring at it and it keeps getting worse

[Anonymous No.4882775]

>>4882766
Why are you sweating this so hard? If she's a friend just give her the drawing, she'll like it. Every piece you ever complete will be complete at the moment you go "It isn't perfect but I'm calling it done".

[Anonymous No.4882796]

>>4882727
Thank you. I'll start doing one pose per page instead of 2-3. That might help me later on as well when I have to construct the head, hands and feet.

[Anonymous No.4882810]

The background is sloppy but okay

[Anonymous No.4882815]

How do I fix the perspective on the back leg? Can someone redline it for me?

[Anonymous No.4882823]

>>4882766
Dude, a normie would absolutely love this. I'd only be concerned if she was an artist herself. I've given a friend a worse portrait and everyone that saw it was very impressed kek.

[Anonymous No.4882851]

>>4882810
Yep

[Anonymous No.4882920]

I just installed clip studio paint and started my journey towards becoming a proffesional artist

this is my first masterpiece, do you guys like it

[Anonymous No.4882935]

Is /asg/ where /begs/ go to stagnate?
I recommended some dude read the sticky and learn basic realism before he tackled stylizing and a wave of angry weebs descended on me telling me copying is the only way to learn anime and all japs do it

[Anonymous No.4882967]

>>4882660
Vitruvian Portrait Drawing course my frend

[Anonymous No.4882981]

>>4882935
/asg/ is fucking cancer don't go there.

If you wanna draw animu just learn fundies and do animu in the side applying what you've learned from the fundies, Of course animu is stylized ppl so you gotta tweak a lot of shit to make it look animu.

[Anonymous No.4882999]

>>4882981
I draw anime with loomis. Honestly I don't think you gotta start with realism and fundies or copying animu, in the end you need to do both sooner or later. Going for anime first might help with motivation so let them do it if the alternative is snuffing out their passion prematurely.

[Anonymous No.4883060]

>>4882967
>150 bucks
Anything cheaper?

[Anonymous No.4883156]

I know I fucked up but it's hard to see how after I've been looking at it so long

[Anonymous No.4883159]

>>4883156
ref

[Anonymous No.4883173]

Somewhat finished. How bad is it?

[Anonymous No.4883214]

>>4882810
learn perspective jesus, she looks like a giant

[Anonymous No.4883236]

>>4883173
Are the ankles artificial? They look a little skinny if they're boots rather than robotic shins or something.

[Anonymous No.4883251]

>>4883060
I can share the course, however is gonna take sometime because my internet is shit.

[Anonymous No.4883256]

there's definitely some stuff that could be improved but I'm just glad I finished something atm

[Anonymous No.4883257]

>>4883156
>>4883173
These look awesome!

[Anonymous No.4883267]

>>4883236
>>4883257
Thanks for the insight.

>>4883236
They're supposed to be boots.

[Anonymous No.4883392]

>>4882935
In truth they should be working on both stylization and realism at the same time to understand what decisions the mangaka when choosing to style, but you can't tell animes kiddy a damn thing at the end of the day because they've all hard headed as fuck. Just let them be.

[Anonymous No.4883403]

>>4881823
>why do you people waste your time trying to render/colour things when you can't even draw properly
>>4881831
>Bad advice, this leads to "never finish anything" syndrome which can take years to fight off. Obviously they shouldn't put 40 hours into a polished turd though.
This was my exact reasoning.

I know it's a bad idea to try to spread my focus too thin, but I'm trying to learn new Software + Hardware at the same time as learning to draw/paint. I know that's one of the arguments of learning Trad first.. but still, there was not a lot of time spent in this.

I intentionally didn't spend much time on the coloring, but it gave an opportunity to try additional brushes and a tiny bit of blending. Was expecting harsh criticism, but was hoping it would be a bit more helpful than just "don't render/color if you can't even draw properly".

[Anonymous No.4883404]

>>4882695
>Pic
Lol that was you? Yeah they were seething bigly in that thread. Anyway, I like your stuff it actually stands out and you draw like you're dead set about getting out of /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4883418]

>>4883256
Not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4883420]

>>4880942
Based

[Anonymous No.4883421]

>>4883404
Thanks for the compliment. Yeah recently i've been actively trying to improve since i haven't been satisfied with my art for a long time

[Anonymous No.4883428]

>>4883256
Mmm tummychad

[Anonymous No.4883432]

>>4883256
It looks great, but if i were to nitpick something just for the sake of criticism i'd say her head is a bit wide especially on the left side.

[Anonymous No.4883456]

>>4882421
In the vast majority of the US she'd be considered legal but since Califags who live where it's 18 produce all our media, the whole would thinks it's like that nationwide.

[Anonymous No.4883460]

>>4883456
*world, FUCK

[Anonymous No.4883511]

new drawing

[Anonymous No.4883516]

>>4882496
whatever you say, pedophile.

[Anonymous No.4883605]

what are the anatomical issues here

[Anonymous No.4883613]

>>4883605
Those hand bones are massive. Looks great tho

[Anonymous No.4883621]

>>4883613
i realized it was pretty disproportionate as soon as i finished it but i knew there were other flaws in the anatomy, the pelvis and the skull especially

[Anonymous No.4883667]

getting geared up for the big 100

[Anonymous No.4883691]

>>4880863
FIRST NSFW WORK, PUSSY AIN'T SOFT AND STUFF, I'M WORKING ON THAT FOR NEXT STUFF

[Anonymous No.4883707]

>>4883605
There's no muscles or skin.

[Anonymous No.4883710]

>>4883667
actually just cooming to your gains headanon

[Anonymous No.4883731]

>>4880951
why do you have a doberman as pic related anon? and why is it showing his weiner?

[Anonymous No.4883735]

I've been wanting to get into commissions, I know that I'm still /beg/, but I've seen what people on >>>/aco/ will pay for. But still I feel like I need to practice a bit more. What can I work on to make my work a bit more coomable?

[Anonymous No.4883736]

>>4883710
thanks lad, keep grinding

[Anonymous No.4883744]

I finally finished something! Break me the bad news...

[Anonymous No.4883810]

Started drawing give or take a year ago, image is basically where I am at. Drew it after going to the gym. We doing good, what's the next steps?

[Anonymous No.4883819]

>>4883810
gesture and figure drawing

[Anonymous No.4883826]

>>4880863
i wasnt able to blend the dark into the light well enough to pull this off but the corner with the train was blank for a few weeks because i couldnt come up with an idea. i think this balances it nicely because the fence looks like train tracks. maybe ill fix it up in digital when i have the time.

[Anonymous No.4883831]

>>4880942
Stupids Mods

[Anonymous No.4883836]

>>4883819
Which ones would you recommend?

[Anonymous No.4883845]

Are people that work in animation (be it movies or animated shows always involved in the proccess of animating things? Or is it possible to be involved mainly or solely on the character concepts for the show/movie?

[Anonymous No.4883851]

>>4883831
Based Mods*

[Anonymous No.4883860]

>>4883845
depends on size of company but generally yes, character concept design is completely different to the actual process of animating a scene

[Anonymous No.4883863]

>>4883836
using hampton currently, too much of a brainlet to try any of the other ones.

[Anonymous No.4883873]

>>4881383
this is great, i hope the smiley face is a watermark and not part of the picture though i love the eyes

[Anonymous No.4883886]

>>4882920
Your art makes me extremely aroused. You will go far. Into my pants.

[Anonymous No.4883890]

Total beginner, been reading Loomis and have a rough sketch I started earlier today. Should I keep at it or practice more and start from scratch?

[Anonymous No.4883898]

>>4883831
HAAAAHA

[Anonymous No.4883902]

>>4880942
nice

[Anonymous No.4883903]

Need help progressing from here. Specifically how do i go from box construction to the more organic forms of the human body. I also struggled with the boobs then deleted them. Any help appreciated, thanks.

[Anonymous No.4883911]

>>4883744
White girl's calf looks too narrow, aside from that nice art & nice dubs.

[Anonymous No.4883912]

>>4883744
So not beg. Gtfo

[Anonymous No.4883922]

>>4883911
>>4883912
Thanks for the input. I'll try to fix it.

[Anonymous No.4883928]

>>4883744
try to spread your own toes

[Anonymous No.4883932]

>>4883928
you telling me you cant spread your toes anon?

[Anonymous No.4883934]

>>4883932
yes

[Anonymous No.4883935]

>>4883934
youre weird

[Anonymous No.4883946]

>>4883890
>Total beginner
Check out Brent Eviston's Art & Science of Drawing and Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching video courses. You're going to want to improve your lines and gain an understanding of forms so you don't get filtered by Loomis.

[Anonymous No.4883959]

>>4883928
Huh?

[Anonymous No.4883962]

>>4883928

[Anonymous No.4883990]

ART IS GAY ART IS GAY ART IS GAY ART IS GAY ART IS GAY ART IS GAY ART IS GAY ART IS GAY

[Anonymous No.4884006]

There are almost no videos about asses

[Anonymous No.4884013]

>>4883990
Quality work

[Anonymous No.4884030]

>>4882920
the blushy snek does things to my weewee

[Anonymous No.4884042]

First time inking a piece I actually liked. Tried my best to feel out what looked right in terms of line weight but I feel like I lost it hard near the end. Tear into me, guys.

[Anonymous No.4884075]

>>4883851
>>4883898
Was he banned?

[Anonymous No.4884093]

>>4883836
try any one you can get your hands on.

[Anonymous No.4884119]

>>4883744
God, this is hot! Jus go full coom, will'ya?

[Anonymous No.4884133]

>>4884042
Relax the right hand, it should be loose and flexible. The wrist should lead the bowstrokes.
Roll the bow away from you.
Raise the left hand. Fingers should curl around the neck relaxed. Fingertips should be pointing down into the strings.

[Anonymous No.4884138]

>>4884075
someone called the mods the s word...
jannies, if you’re reading this, i would never do that!

[Anonymous No.4884167]

>>4883060
>>4883251
https://mega.nz/folder/Z9ZhjQ7Y#JmcB3oFNS-LRuZRHS9p6LA

[Anonymous No.4884171]

First attempt at inking in digital. How did I do?

[Anonymous No.4884174]

>>4883691
the coom and hair have no sense of volume also coom is not white, Is has more of a light gray value.

[Anonymous No.4884179]

God, i think the first excercise in Keys to Draw just gave me testucular torsion

[Anonymous No.4884190]

Damn, I didn't made it for an art gallery contest, I tought I had it but I guess my idea was too swallow

[Anonymous No.4884218]

did 2 hours of figure drawing and anatomy and tried applying what I learned by simplifying a real ref into animu
I feel like im making slow but sure progress

[Anonymous No.4884233]

I truly hate drawing hair and cloth folds.

Is there a way to get good at hair and cloth folds without having to actually practice drawing them?

[Anonymous No.4884242]

>>4883903
??? She's totally covered in baggy clothing dude

This is why people practice with nude models.

Just throw a dress on top of your construction. What's the point in worrying about the details of a form you won't be able to see?

[Anonymous No.4884244]

>>4884233
hahaha, no

[Anonymous No.4884272]

is it weird to loose your confidence for drawing after a big grind of learning?

[Anonymous No.4884276]

>>4884233
just don't draw clothes silly

[Anonymous No.4884305]

looking for help on appeal

[Anonymous No.4884314]

>>4884305
you've only really proved that you can copy faces
take a step back and focus pushing expressions and parts of the face

[Anonymous No.4884324]

>>4883836
>If you're a total /beg/
Brent eviston + vilppu
>If you have a good enough or decent grasp of form and perspective
Hampton and scroto

[Anonymous No.4884328]

>>4884314
thank you for the feedback, but i'm not sure what you mean by pushing expressions. like caricature?

[Anonymous No.4884339]

>>4884328
yes but not exactly
focus on how you're constructing the face so you can know how to push certain parts of it

[Anonymous No.4884387]

>>4883744
Blog?

[Stupid doodle No.4884401]

[Anonymous No.4884427]

>>4884190
And I'm posting what I summited but no one asked

[Anonymous No.4884430]

>>4884427
Shit that's not the one

[Anonymous No.4884477]

>>4884430
Add crooked nose and kippah so I could save it in my rare merchants folder

[Anonymous No.4884478]

>>4883418
Kek

[Anonymous No.4884488]

>>4883418
nah its /beg/
coloring is good, but its. very much clear its someone who's only ever been good at copying things but never learned the foundations of construction and perspective right

[Anonymous No.4884499]

what does render mean

[Anonymous No.4884500]

>>4883159
cool ref. Tried a lil thing with it

[Anonymous No.4884502]

>>4884488
>>4884499
friends

[Anonymous No.4884512]

>>4884500
Why? You changed the values and colors around so it can't be for value groups

[Anonymous No.4884518]

>>4884500
damn how do I learn to paint like that

[Anonymous No.4884539]

>>4884500
incredible, this is the best piece i've ever seen in my life, blog?

[Anonymous No.4884545]

>>4884518
>>4884539
kek

[Anonymous No.4884552]

How would you construct this? The far shoulder/arm is giving me problems, both shoulders are I guess very near on a 2d projection, but then how do you get the rest of the torso in a box?

[Anonymous No.4884586]

>>4884552
try do it yourself first then ask for help anon

[Anonymous No.4884634]

>>4884552
drawabox

[Anonymous No.4884649]

>>4884552
no clue how y'all live in boxes and all that, but yeah, I think your big issue is that you don't realize how much she's pushing her chest out forward, You can tell because her breasts are almost facing different directions. There's some really arching going on there, so you'd like, have to make a v shaped box, almost. Trying to mimic the pose yourself is a good way to get a feel for how their holding their body

[Anonymous No.4884652]

[Anonymous No.4884653]

>>4884586
already did, that's why I'm asking

[Anonymous No.4884655]

>>4884649
thank you anon. Also, nice pun

[Anonymous No.4884694]

If the light is warm, should the shadow usually be cold, and vice versa?

[Anonymous No.4884697]

>>4884694
Not how it actually works but it's a good rule of thumb.

[Anonymous No.4884699]

Can someone redline this for me? I cannot for the life of me, figure out the correct anatomy for this pose. Feel free to bash everything else in the sketch, including the chicken scratching. I could use the criticism.

[Anonymous No.4884701]

>>4884697
Huh?

[Anonymous No.4884713]

>>4884701
The shadow is lighted by the ambient light, so it depends on the surroundings. Under the sun that usually means lots of blue and green ambient light, but you could have reddish shadows with yellow sunlight if you were surrounded by red stone and got no blue sky. You can imagine all objects to function as a sort of ultra blurry mirror with some paint on top, your surroundings are mirrored in your shadow, but it's so blurry that it just looks like some colors. I really recommend playing around in Blender a bit for a feel for this, make sure you got an HDRI and screen space reflections on.

[Anonymous No.4884714]

>>4883707
anatomical issues not health issues

[Anonymous No.4884736]

>>4884699
woman head on manlet body, with man arms

[Anonymous No.4884752]

>>4884736
Yep fair enough, I'm just gonna start over and actually construct it instead of rushing in like a retard.

[Anonymous No.4884756]

I don't get it

[Anonymous No.4884757]

>>4883511
yo yungkhan?

[Anonymous No.4884761]

>>4884756
You need some Drawing on the right side of the brain first

[Anonymous No.4884762]

>>4884756
Study basic objects in perspective and mannequinization

[Anonymous No.4884764]

>>4884756
draw a box

[Anonymous No.4884765]

>>4884756
I'd try another hobby, if I were you, anon...

[Anonymous No.4884770]

how am i doin?

[Anonymous No.4884771]

>>4884770
I'd imagine this is what that schizo would draw if he gained some sanity.
Hard to say much at this stage imo.

[Anonymous No.4884773]

>>4884771
I def am Schizo

[AkariBrapSniffer No.4884776]

>>4884765
My only other is destroying my arm

[Anonymous No.4884779]

>>4884776
haha guy, just keep practicing!
You're doing fine!

[Anonymous No.4884780]

>>4884770
>>4884773
stop being scared to draw arms

[Anonymous No.4884785]

>>4884780
nah i gotta draw feet

[Anonymous No.4884787]

Kinda wonky, but it feels good to feel the ability to draw something that doesn't look as bad as it did before.

[Anonymous No.4884796]

Trying to learn colour and blending from absolute scratch. Felt like I'm banging head against wall. Watched this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nt9fa8jZUE

Feel like it kind of makes sense now. Think attempt is at least along the right lines.

What is the most efficient way to improve? Obviously practice a lot. Practice what though?

[Anonymous No.4884799]

Is making incredibly messy sketches/drafts a bad habit? It's been easier for me to do these instead of caring about line economy and generating clean sketches for viewability. It also helps me relieve tension instead of stressing about anatomy and proportion too much. I'd just like to know for the sake of improvement and such. Image is one of my most recent sketches.

[Anonymous No.4884811]

>>4884799
No. It's up to you how you do the sketch.

[Anonymous No.4884818]

>>4884799
I do this as well, just turn the opacity down a lot and do another layer and repeat that again for refinement.

[Anonymous No.4884819]

>>4884818
Whats your final products look like?

[Anonymous No.4884829]

>>4881765
Good job, but ur you're not beg buddy
plz go to /int/

[Anonymous No.4884830]

>>4884770
>>4884773
You're not beg. Go to alt

[Anonymous No.4884832]

>>4884819
My ADHD usually prevents me from doing the layering long enough to actually get to true polish because I always lose interest, but I imagine a normal human can easily go with that.

[Anonymous No.4884834]

>>4883691
There is so much wrong with this. The perspective is so off. the breasts look flat. the pelvis looks strangely wrinkled. The pussy and her face look flat, There is no clear light source. There are so many needless lines. Please use a reference and study other coom artists you like next time. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.4884844]

>>4884756
You need to breakdown the reference you're using before you start drawing. Ask yourself what you are seeing LITTERALY. Don't tell me that you're looking at a 3D anime figure, Tell me what perspective this model is in. Tell me what shapes make up her torso and her legs.

Draw what you know and what you see.

[Anonymous No.4884857]

Any advice for keeping the overall proportions right when drawing from life?

I keep getting a result image where all shapes and lines are in the right places in relation to each other, but the image as a whole is stretched horizontally or vertically.

Pic related, the model’s face is a bit more wide irl

[Anonymous No.4884905]

>>4884305
dont forget the underside

[Anonymous No.4884916]

Which book should i start to read first? loomis fun with a pencil, drawing with the right side of the brain, keys to drawing or figure drawing: design and invention?

[Anonymous No.4884922]

>>4883826
I like the crazy perspective but she should have lower legs looks like an amputee

[Anonymous No.4884986]

Are these vanishing points correct if not would like the proper lines

[Anonymous No.4884993]

>>4884986
I could tell you if this was at a higher resolution

[Anonymous No.4884999]

>>4884993
https://i.imgur.com/OYqw1b2.png

[Anonymous No.4885041]

>>4884993
Took another try at it

[Anonymous No.4885044]

>>4882404
Women never really grow up. Getting so worked out over a year of difference to "legal age" is downright moronic.

[Anonymous No.4885070]

>>4885041
If I understand what you are trying to imply here correctly, this is wrong. Can you explain your thought process here?

[Anonymous No.4885079]

>>4885070
Horizontal and vertical lines start to converge to a singular point, sometimes these points are off the picture itself. I'm tryin to find those points, if you could correct these lines would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4885109]

>>4884218
I can see the progress. Errors I could find where that the hands were bigger than the face. The cloth folds are thrown in haphazardly and don't truly follow how it would work in a person. The neck is too think, so the back line of the neck should be tapered closer to the center. And stop being scared of drawing hands, were here to fix your weak spots.

[Anonymous No.4885113]

>>4883744
No one else said this, but the line weights are out of wack. Sometimes they're very thin and other times they're thick. Stick to one.

[Anonymous No.4885209]

how do I add shading?

[Anonymous No.4885217]

>>4885079
Please post a higher res image, as I said earlier. What I meant when I said this is wrong is that you are not follow the lines, VP2 being the worst offender here, how did you come up with these weird lines that don't line up with the building at all?

[Anonymous No.4885218]

>>4881406
HARD

[Anonymous No.4885222]

>>4885217
here is the original image

[Anonymous No.4885248]

>>4880863
poor linefag here.

I am studying hands

[Anonymous No.4885257]

>>4884922
i wish i still had the ref, but you couldn't see her lower legs or feet.

[Anonymous No.4885263]

>>4884922
And it's not crazy perspective, its 1 point perspective. doesn't get any simpler.

[Anonymous No.4885279]

Is this how I properly draw a head in perspective?

[Anonymous No.4885362]

>>4885279
no. i mean... just trace a line across the eyes. that line is not parallel to the box. that tells you no right there.

[Anonymous No.4885433]

Sup, fellas. Been drawing for a couple weeks now, mainly sketches on random objects trying to get a feel of things, but eventually decided to move onto characters and by watching a couple of tutorials my understanding of how to structure things to make the work easier increased but I'm still at the very beggining of the journey.

In this ocasion I chose the public masturbator of im@s because her face is rather simple and she's cute af. Obviously I did a few things wrong since it looks nothing like it, but what do you guys think it was? My main guess is that I didn't prepare the main circle correctly and that the hairline was too close to it also, but I would like to know what you guys think.

[Anonymous No.4885504]

Can someone tell me what's the usage of "observational drawing" and it's techniques? What function does it exactly have on the development of a /beg inner. Am i supossed to follow it's rules everytime i draw something from eye? I just really can't quite make the reasoning behind why is so different. Also, in the sticky, is it supossed that you do all the resources listed under each section? Ex. I'm reading Keys to Drawing, upon finishing it should i read the other one book or should i move onto another section ahead?

[Anonymous No.4885549]

>>4885433
I think the shape of her head is off, and her features aren’t positioned correctly on it. I struggle with this a lot too, but try to spend more time finding the proper intersection between the center line of the face and the brow line. Loomis says that the sort of “cross” that you find at that intersection is the reference point you want to use for the positioning of the face’s features, and following that advice has helped make my own faces less derpy.

[Anonymous No.4885614]

>>4884133
Thanks, bruv. Looks like I was just copying the ref to closely and didn't break it down well during construction.

[Anonymous No.4885620]

>>4885263
I was talking about how the buildings are sideways and the train is in the sky but now I'm getting the sense you weren't going for that and it's much less interesting now

[Anonymous No.4885654]

>>4885549

Yeah I can't seem to make any sense of the cross when I make it, is there any guideline I can follow?

[Anonymous No.4885657]

>>4885620
i dont think perspective is the word you are looking for. it surrealism. a fence looks like train tracks on its side, so you have to rotate the page and see 2 different pictures. thats not perspective though.

[Anonymous No.4885721]

>>4883605
few more

[Anonymous No.4885750]

>>4885614
Bro. I was joking. I was commenting about the violinist's technique.

[Anonymous No.4885820]

>>4884830
Im not good enough :(

[Anonymous No.4885822]

>>4884832
Go learn how to paint

[Anonymous No.4885823]

>>4885279
Yes, that's the right method.

You still need practice to get your features all lined up but you're doing the right thing (and honestly, at a quick glance if you didn't have the box visible to point out the eye level error... basically nobody would even notice it wasn't perfect).

You'd be surprised at how incorrect things can be and still look fine. Keep it up.

[Anonymous No.4885828]

>>4884174
Not that Anon, but thank you for the guide.

[Anonymous No.4885848]

>>4885828
not that anon, but you're welcome

[Anonymous No.4885869]

any feeback?

[Anonymous No.4885871]

>>4885869
*feedback

[Anonymous No.4885886]

[Anonymous No.4885977]

FUCKING EYES ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.4885999]

>>4885977
the jaw is a little off but keep GAINING anon

[Anonymous No.4886014]

>>4885999
mhm yeah perspective is off, thanks

[Anonymous No.4886020]

>>4885750
Oh, wow. The girl in my ref sucks at violin then.

[Anonymous No.4886035]

>>4885113
That's total horse shit. Noone else said it cuz it's fuckin stupid, retard.

[Anonymous No.4886044]

roughly when should I jump into dynamic sketching? Should I do hampton first

[Anonymous No.4886046]

>>4881765
Kinda shitty redraw, but I hope it gives you some ideas. The nose in your drawing is off center, its tip is also too big for "appeal" - also it should be a bit longer, I think

[Anonymous No.4886052]

I need more Loomis, but at least they start to look not horrible. (for some reason I make the eyes to big, though doesn't apply to the left one as it's meant to be that way)

[Anonymous No.4886179]

someone tell me the best way to learn perspective and construction im tired of copying animu faces

[Anonymous No.4886326]

>>4886179
Unironically - Loomis. You want to eventually get to the simplified Loomis head - that's the one in the image I posted.

Once you can do that easily, you can just stop cutting off the sides (most anime heads use the full head sphere) and use a shorter, pointier facial mass and chin.

You could also do box construction if it's easier for you. The goal is to just get the basic forms built in 3D - there are a bunch of different possible constructions, but Loomis adjusted for Anime proportions works just fine.

[Anonymous No.4886354]

What pencil was used for this? I really liked it but I cant get those exact marks
im using hb, 4b, 6b and 2b

[Anonymous No.4886382]

>>4886326
Alright thanks

[Anonymous No.4886388]

should i just loomis-pill myself already. and should i start with fun with a pencil or figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.4886389]

ffs forgot to resize the image

[Anonymous No.4886414]

>>4885218
..as in the brush?

[Anonymous No.4886435]

>>4885433
>>4885504
Practice traditional more a little and good habits carry over to anime styles, read the sticky please

[Anonymous No.4886467]

>>4886020
Yea, most of the time, it's easy to tell when somebody's just posing with a violin. Or they're a beginner.
As for actual feedback, the tip of the violin doesn't look in perspective. It looks like it's coming less towards the viewer compared to the body of the violin. In other words, I guess, it looks flat. That's as much as this amateur can say about your sketch.

[Anonymous No.4886488]

>>4886354
Looks like a 4b.

[Anonymous No.4886515]

>>4886488
either that or a 6b but the marks are a bit too broad for it, im trying to sharpen it differently but still cant get it

[Anonymous No.4886519]

>>4885248
remeber your finger are cylinders that are as thick as your palm

[Anonymous No.4886579]

>>4886515
They're either turning it sideways or they're using a flat pencil.

[Anonymous No.4886610]

>Going back to the previous analogy, if we have a fish floating freely in the sea, we want to define it in explicit terms, clearly defining the forms that make up its body and how they exist in 3D space in relation to one another.
>When the fish is stapled to the wall however, this ceases to be the case.
The fuck is wrong with this guy?

[Anonymous No.4886614]

>>4886389
Honestly, you're able to eyeball cubes pretty well. Cylinders and spheres are needed but assuming you're not terrible at those you're definitely ready to start Figure Drawing for All it's Worth. You only need just enough rudimentary knowledge to get started, I would be surprised if you couldn't knock out some pretty good Loomis heads once you learn them.

[Anonymous No.4886632]

Did this a couple of days ago.
Gonna get back to Keys to Drawing and start drawing from real life.

[Anonymous No.4887331]

Someone give me the autism pill rundown, if I want to just get really good at drawing faces do I just draw loomis 300 times a day or what would you guys recommend.

[Anonymous No.4887811]

>>4880942
I'd redline you but I'd eat a ban.

[Anonymous No.4888281]

Going to draw every page of Bridgeman in order to git gud.

[Anonymous No.4888778]

>>4887331
draw faces, but focus on your line dexterity (remember to ghost and draw in as little lines as possible)
consider the construction of faces
and try pushing and pulling features

[Anonymous No.4889121]

am i ngmi

[Anonymous No.4889322]

>>4884477
Sorry, I just read your reply

[Anonymous No.4889323]

>>4889322
FUCK