/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4869192]

Is this legit?

[Anonymous No.4869201]

>>4869192
how is this fucker so popular

[Anonymous No.4869207]

I always have trouble with ribcage and shoulders

[Anonymous No.4869210]

>>4869201
do something that looks so easy even tho it's not effective. people love easy things

[Anonymous No.4869216]

Yeah, don't think about and just copy it, Its good.

[Anonymous No.4869217]

>>4869192
This shit again?

[Anonymous No.4869251]

>>4869192
No tools, only rules

[Anonymous No.4869255]

>>4869251
Wait shit I fucked up, I meant "No rules, only tools"

[Anonymous No.4869264]

>>4869201

This anon >>4869210 got it right. He’s so popular amongst the masses because his simple style allows people to imagine themselves drawing it (hence, the “instructions”) without being intimidated by more complicated, anatomically-correct work.

[Anonymous No.4869267]

>>4869251
Kek. Ngmi.

[Anonymous No.4869282]

What does it mean if I study Vilppu, Huston and Hampton but this guy still draws better anime than me?

[Anonymous No.4869288]

>>4869201
he's not even an art tutorial person, doesn't he make comics for reddit so they can insert their text into his "templates"?

[Anonymous No.4869294]

>>4869282
It means you haven't gotten enough mileage and you'll be better than him in no time, especially since he's completely stagnated for god knows how many several years.

[Anonymous No.4869299]

where can I see the first 183

[Anonymous No.4869321]

Not sure what's going on in this thread. I am an animetard and I find this ""anatomy"" abhorrent, is this considered passable or even good by the masses? What the fuck?

Even worse, it looked 3 times better on the redline phase, the detailing made it flatter/robloxer.

[Anonymous No.4869324]

>>4869282
It means you have no talent and are ngmi

[Anonymous No.4869352]

>>4869192
He's explicitly doing it as an "everydays"-ish attempt to learn something. It's not a tutorial it's just him explaining that he learned the pillow / bean concept.

[Anonymous No.4869356]

>>4869192
Was legit bored and curious how I would have gone about it, so did a quick edit, nothing amazing, but here you go anyway, a bit more visibly interesting I believe, even if anatomy is still off.

[Anonymous No.4869373]

>>4869267
Based satanachia poster

[Anonymous No.4869397]

>>4869288
Yeah, that's a larger part of the reason why he has a following.

[Anonymous No.4869404]

>>4869356
soulless
>>4869192
soul

[Anonymous No.4869421]

>>4869192
Haha he draws like me...oh...

[Anonymous No.4869422]

>>4869282
the guy probably has been stuck in the same shithole of a skill for years considering he's been drawing dumbed down comics for quite awhile

[Anonymous No.4869433]

He’s good at drawing hands, but that’s about it.

[Anonymous No.4869434]

I tried so hard...
and got so far...
in the end...
it doesn't even matter...

[Anonymous No.4869454]

>>4869282
It means you got better at drawing that than this.

[Anonymous No.4869508]

>>4869324
pyw

[Anonymous No.4869515]

>>4869356
Nicely done anon. Originals lack of ribs and torso shape was giving me pedo vibes and looks like a 12-14 year old who just got boobs but no figure yet.

>>4869404
Pedo opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.4869517]

>>4869192
just draw a box

[Anonymous No.4869526]

>>4869356
way better

[Anonymous No.4869582]

>>4869192
That looks like crap, look up for real art masters and no meme crap.

[Anonymous No.4869592]

>>4869192
Ah shit, here we go again

[Anonymous No.4869686]

why are one of her tits in the middle of her sternum, why did he draw guidelines if he didn't use them, why does every little crease and groove on her body have a black line, why is he telling people how to draw if he doesn't know how to draw

[Anonymous No.4869719]

>>4869201
Appeal > realism.

[Anonymous No.4869880]

>>4869192
Nah m8 it looks quite subpar tbqh

[Anonymous No.4869881]

>>4869299
https://www.reddit.com/r/chloe

[Anonymous No.4869887]

>>4869881
really though some 75% of us could do so much fucking better than this trash, yet somehow he's incredibly popular.

[Anonymous No.4869890]

>>4869356
significantly better

[Anonymous No.4869897]

>>4869887
Because we're busy drawing than shilling

[Anonymous No.4869902]

>>4869887
>somehow

Could MAAAAYBE have to do with the fact that he's got an incredibly prolific long running comic strip, hundreds of 1 off four panel funnies, and he posts the anime girl like every day. Turns out... regular content might be better than painstaking content for building an audience.

[Anonymous No.4869911]

if you ever tried to draw a figure in every perspective, especially with the standard poses, straight, arms down, you know that the shoulders are real troublemakers, because hard to point out the correct position. if they're off, the whole pose looks off.

I found something that works for me, nothing fancy. These very organic figure drawing mannequins like loomis for instance are 2 organic to draw it faithfully in every perspective.

The image op posted could barely work, but normally there is a bigger gap between the ribcage and where out visible part of the shoulder begins (the ball)

[Anonymous No.4869916]

Everyone wants to do it the easy way. Why not just learn anatomy it really isn't that mentally complicated its just a lot of work. But the end result will be far more visually appealing due to your newfound knowledge and experience. I'm not saying do nothing but grind fundies. Just don't look for shortcuts. The saying that you get out what you put in is very true with art.

[Anonymous No.4869938]

>>4869192
I wonder how many calls this method bad without testing it. This is kinda the anime version of the Riley abstractions and it works great as a supplementary construction tool.

[Anonymous No.4869939]

>>4869192
i tried this method and it's pure dogshit, he doesn't even use gesture

[Anonymous No.4869941]

>>4869881
this one's pretty gud

[Anonymous No.4869948]

>>4869192
I can't stop laughing at those cartoon tits.

[Anonymous No.4869952]

>>4869192
it's like the torso bean
but his anatomy is incorrect

[Anonymous No.4869958]

why the FUCK is this dude going crazy on some new secret method in every new drawing he makes?

[Anonymous No.4869970]

>>4869958
He wants to be anime loomis but failing horribly at it.

[Anonymous No.4869984]

>>4869251
Don't analyze the model, copy the model

[Anonymous No.4870047]

>>4869192
>final result looks weird as fuck, almost as if it was traced
>does it work?

[Anonymous No.4870071]

>>4869192
Drawing Practice #185: Pillow Shading

[Anonymous No.4870086]

>>4869938
good luck using this in different angles and poses

[Anonymous No.4870120]

>>4869192
/ourguy/ made a new character finally
Looks pretty similar to the other one

[Anonymous No.4870141]

Who cares about reddit "artist"
Fucking neo 4chan

[Anonymous No.4870274]

the problem with all these "draw anime girl simple style" artists is that begniggers watch their tutorials and think that they're good to draw their own stuff already.
Reality is, these tutorial guys know how to make simple good looking drawings because they've studied anatomy, construction, gesture and all that other stuff.

[Anonymous No.4870382]

>>4869356
nice work, looks much better

[Anonymous No.4870399]

what is the easiest way to go from box to ribcage with shoulders?
this gives me huge trouble always

[Anonymous No.4870418]

>>4869192
I see mid-chest boob is still at its rightful place

[Anonymous No.4870433]

>>4869911
draw a box, unironically
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4353W2Xqm0

[Anonymous No.4870445]

>>4869881
What the hell is wrong with the arms.

[Anonymous No.4870463]

>>4869881
This guys a fuckin retard

[Anonymous No.4870468]

>>4870274
Kek grafo sucks dick

[Anonymous No.4870517]

>>4870399
draw the ribcage without the box.
Thanks me later.

[Anonymous No.4870530]

>>4869356
nice work. the breasts especially on the original are inaccurate in a creepy way.

>>4870120
how would you define the emotion in this expression? without using the word "reddit" because you can't use the thing itself in a definition.

[Anonymous No.4870531]

>>4870445
it's the deltoids, the guy doesn't know how they work, same with the pecs hence why his tits always look shit

[Anonymous No.4870567]

Congratz you now know how to draw this one pose but only with reference.

[Anonymous No.4870610]

>>4869282
study=/=copying

[Anonymous No.4870656]

>>4869192
Yikes... he should stick to simple rimworld comics

[Anonymous No.4870659]

>>4870120
>once she gets her sub
What and egomaniac lmao

[Anonymous No.4870666]

>>4870274
I prefer the term /beg/ros.

[Anonymous No.4870743]

>>4869282
Draw anime stuff on the side, learning all the realism stuff wont do much good if you dont incorporate it into the anime style.

[Anonymous No.4870783]

>>4870659
The subreddit Zoe already exists, he tried appealing to the admins to take it over the original owner.

[Anonymous No.4870820]

>>4870120
he only has two ocs (not counting his little sona) and he's already suffering from same face syndrome

[Anonymous No.4870861]

>>4870399
use the box to represent ribs 2-5 (ie bottom of the box is the bottom of the sternum) and have 6-10 coming off of it instead of trying to butcher a single large box. glenoid cavity will be roughly on the top edges so you can shape your neck and shoulders on top of it.

[Anonymous No.4870865]

>>4870820
that broken chin lmao

[Anonymous No.4870884]

>>4870820
The reason the comics work is because they are setups. It’s not about the post, it’s about having fun with people in the comments. I can’t create a master joke, but I sure as hell can draw people and have fun with them.

Andre Rojas (SrGrafo)
whatever thing it is that you like doing — singing, painting, running, drawing silly doodles — if you keep doing it every day (every f****** day), and not because you want to impress someone or because it’s a chore, but purely because you enjoy doing it, then it’s gonna get you somewhere.

Andre Rojas (SrGrafo)
First chapters look bad because I was learning how to draw when I started it. But it gets better, I promise.

Andre Rojas (SrGrafo)

[Anonymous No.4870897]

>>4869207
this guy explains how to draw it pretty well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXNmBiNkcUQ

[Anonymous No.4870921]

>>4869887
He's less skilled but he draws more appealing content than the whole board
clearly he knows appealing gesture and design, I picked the first pic of the reddit and look, can you find works from this board that have this appeal?
I guess drawing bargue plates, nature morte and loomis head doesn't help gaining popularity

[Anonymous No.4870966]

>>4869192
vary good i lern lots great thx for tuteral
i look forwerd to pt 2 with shins

[Anonymous No.4871006]

>>4870921
crabs on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.4871022]

>>4870921

[Anonymous No.4871047]

>>4870921
>He's less skilled but he draws more appealing content than the whole board
I kinda agree. His skill level is around the average /beg/gar but he puts in soul and effort unlike most of us.

[Anonymous No.4871062]

>>4870530
>how would you define the emotion in this expression?
sadly annoyed?

[Anonymous No.4871065]

>>4871062
>>4870530
> emotion in this expression
Like somebody came inside her and pulled out before she could finish

[Anonymous No.4871081]

>>4869356

It's embarrassing how much better this is than the original.

[Anonymous No.4871105]

>>4871081
It is literally the absolute minimum knowledge of anatomy and the dude cant get it right. No ribcage, no pelvis, no lats. Were drawing humans here not pillows. If anybody follows these kinds of ez pz "tutorials" theyre just setting themselves up as a ngmi.

[Anonymous No.4871122]

>>4871047
He's definitely better than your average /ic/ retard, but a good part of it is focus on body language, facial expressions, cuteness, and pleasing color palettes, something which I never see beginners on /ic/ care about *at all*.

[Anonymous No.4871125]

>>4871105

I would argue that he's "made it" in the sense that he seems to have found his little reddit niche, but yeah, he ain't gonna progress further from there if he doesn't put in the time and effort to refine the drawings and learn proper construction and fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.4871128]

Why the fuck is he so bad at drawing tits? All of his characters look like someone stapled two of those falsies that mastectomy patients use to the torso of a 12 year-old boy.

[Anonymous No.4871134]

>>4869404
Placement of the masses are more accurate, but I feel like anon's fix almost includes too much detail for the particular type of stylization, leading it to look like one of those weird porny drawings rather than something cute.

[Anonymous No.4871140]

>>4871128
>no vacuum tits
>no C shapes from push up bras or costumes
i always hate these retarded points.

[Anonymous No.4871157]

>>4870966
Torso actually looks like his though, good job

[Anonymous No.4871184]

>>4869192
No, nipples don't look like that.

[Anonymous No.4871240]

>>4871125
Also didnt he already have a big following before doing art(or dwell deeper into art), I think he drew comics and stuff that became memes frequently. Kinda a head start if you ask me. But I wont lie, his characters are appealing and cute, and his current skill level is enough for use in comics and such.

[Anonymous No.4871458]

our king has blessed us with more Chloeposting!

[Anonymous No.4871461]

>>4871458
kill yourself grafo

[Anonymous No.4871463]

>>4871458
Why are her arms always so short. I thought it was supposed to be finger tips go to mid thigh

[Anonymous No.4871473]

>>4871458
Thats much better, grafo.

[Anonymous No.4871513]

>the top of the pillow MUST be smaller
If you knew perspective you'd know why

[Anonymous No.4871532]

>>4871463
From his drawings, he obviously lack anatomy & proportion knowledges.
If he study hard on those instead of trying to figure out how to invent new ways to draw, he would have had better gains.
I guess he's a good example of why you shouldn't invent your own drawing ways.

[Anonymous No.4871533]

>>4871458
go do some figure studies for the love of god redtard

[Anonymous No.4871536]

>>4870399


>draw egg shape for rib cage, use lithr lines.
>then draw a line across said egg shape as shown.
>then draw your character.

Also
Remove box step, just use the method I showed you.

[Anonymous No.4871539]

can I get some help here

I always have huge trouble with legs

[Anonymous No.4871541]

>>4870921
>can you find works from this board that have this appeal?
Several, yes.

[Anonymous No.4871553]

>>4871539
What's wrong with the legs?

[Anonymous No.4871584]

>>4870463
You’re the real tard

[Anonymous No.4871632]

>>4871539
Lower legs too long and upper legs too short, move the knees down. Draw the plane she's standing on before the feet. Use a reference

[Anonymous No.4871659]

Did a Chloe for fun. If there's things wrong, please help.

[Anonymous No.4872409]

>>4871539
lol the left side of the pelvis looks like a superfat chode

[Anonymous No.4872422]

>>4870921
w-what do you mean that my photorealistic still life doesn't have mass appeal?????

[Anonymous No.4872496]

He'll be trapped in a cycle of non improvement for a very long time because he's too arrogant to use references. He might take down some potentially competent artists with him if this "imagination only, I'm a savant !!!!" attitude picks up steam

Also the character looks like a child, eww

[Anonymous No.4872510]

>>4871458
>ARGHHHH MY EYES

WTF WHY HER HANDS ARE SO FUCKING SMAAAAAAAL, SLAP YOUR MOTHERFUCKING HAND ONTO YOUR FACE TO KNOW HOW BIG IT ACTUALLY IS, FUCKING RETARD

—WHATS UP WITH THAT TORSO?

—FUCKING NOTHING, EVERY THING IS SHIT


PAPA LOOMIS HELP THIS TORMENTED SOUL, HE JUST NEEDS MORE.... PRACTICE!

[Anonymous No.4872513]

>>4871659
Still better than giraffo

[Anonymous No.4872530]

>>4871584
grafo? is that you?

[Anonymous No.4872614]

>>4872510
He gets plenty of "practice". What he needs is guidance.

[Anonymous No.4873118]

why are you fags obsessed with him?

[Anonymous No.4873129]

>>4869192
Of course, you might have seen proko and others refer to it as the bean. Same principle.

[Anonymous No.4873140]

>>4870921
>appealing gesture
no
>appealing design
because it's Kiki in a hoodie

[Anonymous No.4873142]

>>4869881
>>4869192
>Self inserts himself with a cancerous avatar on every panel
>Me, me, me, I, I, I
>Muh OC
>Uses himself instructing the viewer with a fucking avatar using his OC making sure you know it's his OC
>Did I mention this is his OC?
>View muh OC on plebbit! Here's my OC's name on my Plebbit featuring my OC
>Regurgitates off other halfassed tutorials and calls it his own
It's all so tiring

[Anonymous No.4873143]

>>4871240

Yeah, he regularly posts quick comics (basically one step above stick figures) on reddit, which helped garner him a substantial following before he started trying to delve into his Chloe posting.

As I said, and you stated in your post, his Chloe stuff is "good enough" for what he does, I just wish he would take the goddamn time to elevate it further. His current Chloe drawings seem "fine" at first glance, but it starts coming apart almost immediately if you look longer than 3 seconds.

[Anonymous No.4873146]

>>4871659

Again, it's sad that a random anon on /ic/ doing a quick and dirty pic is already more on-point with fundies than Grafo himself. Like goddamn man, learn to balance out the fucking figure.

[Anonymous No.4873149]

>>4871659
you put the boob on correctly
you're going places my man

[Anonymous No.4873204]

It's kind of scary how most people that get very popular completely stop improving.

[Anonymous No.4873206]

>>4869192
>Muh style

The pillow thing really does make you accidentally draw short arms. I had to erase them and make it longer, but then it actually doesn’t look quite right. Weird discovery.

[Anonymous No.4873236]

>>4873206

It's almost like we're not pillows, despite what Grafo claims

[Anonymous No.4873243]

>>4873204
Because they need to pump out content regularly

[Anonymous No.4873247]

>>4873236
says you, i'm gonna put my head on your lap.

[Anonymous No.4873248]

>>4873204

What annoys me is that he puts all of those construction pics next to his "finished" Chloe drawings, in order to "teach" everyone else.

[Anonymous No.4873306]

>>4873247

:O

L-l-lewd....

[Anonymous No.4873341]

>>4873206
Table-kun?

[Anonymous No.4873402]

>>4870399
more birdgman complete guide to drawing from life or constructive anatomy

[Anonymous No.4873443]

>>4869192
Not so good, arms are too short, boob is almost in the center of her chest. Proportions also seem kind of off in general.

[Anonymous No.4873561]

More pillowposting for you guys

[Anonymous No.4873567]

>>4873561
can this guy draw proper clothes?

[Anonymous No.4873631]

>>4869192
the virgin srgrafo
the CHAD sr pelo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbk0kOijrSU

[Anonymous No.4873894]

His art is awful but he's established a fanbase already and that's another skill you have to learn unfortunately. Just grinding your art all day and posting to nobody isn't going to get you popular.

[Anonymous No.4873900]

Why is he drawing his OC naked? If I did that I'd feel too rapey

[Anonymous No.4873910]

>>4873206
>The pillow thing really does make you accidentally draw short arms.
no? you decide the length yourself depending on what you believe the proportions to be.

i don't think one shape can make you draw another shape in a certain way on its own..

[Anonymous No.4873936]

>>4873900
Maybe she was created to enjoy it

[Anonymous No.4873940]

>>4873561
oh wow it's almost like it's a garbage idea some hack got from staring at his pillowfu long into the night

[Anonymous No.4873987]

>>4873341
Sup

>>4873910
It’s probably because i was drew it like a study and i drew from the negative space and fucked the arms. Then I made them longer, but it looks too dramatically different from the reference.

[Anonymous No.4873994]

>>4873900
the idiot can't draw clothes

[Anonymous No.4874034]

>>4869192
imagine being a comic artist for years and only knowing how to draw 1 girl and 1 minimalist chibi, if only those reddit points could feed you, can't even sell the acc because nsfw posts and recognizable username

[Anonymous No.4874212]

>>4874034
I wonder why he even wants to try his fame with anime grills out of all things, his fame is for being a reddit funnyman that makes easy to edit comics and that interacts a lot with the audience, the best course would honestly have been following what shen/owlturd (the guy that grafo probably is following anyway) did and start setting up some sort of episodic little history ala LWM

[Anonymous No.4875891]

>>4869192
This girl looks like pikachu!
I'll take 20!!!

[Anonymous No.4875898]

>>4873900

Because he wants the coom audience on reddit.

[Anonymous No.4876348]

>>4870921
>Kid version
>exposed back

[Anonymous No.4876702]

I want a big reddit audience ngl.

[Anonymous No.4876993]

people like srgrafo make me wonder why I bother actually learning art. I should just crank out stick figure scribbles with tits on reddit and laugh as the coomers feast on them like they do with this dumbshit. If he had any respect for the craft he would apologize and stop posting this garbage until he actually learned to draw.

[Anonymous No.4876996]

>>4876993
How about you do that right fucking now instead of anonymously complaining on some art board like a fucking NGMI faggot?

[Anonymous No.4876998]

>>4876996
I didn't know grafo was on /ic/, wow. Settle down kiddo.

[Anonymous No.4877003]

>>4873561
This is the result of 'just draw'

[Anonymous No.4877008]

>>4877003
Which is still a million times more appealing than what fundy grinders produce.

[Anonymous No.4877043]

>>4873142
I have a lot of issues with artists who make “OC” without a story. There’s no point for your shitty perfect waifu oc to exist if she doesn’t inhabit a story you're actively telling. To me it just seems like pathetic lonely wish fulfillment escapism.

[Anonymous No.4877044]

>>4877008
Idk, not him. But I did the fundies and have produced several appealing characters.

[Anonymous No.4877048]

>>4877043
...okay?

[Anonymous No.4877050]

>>4869192

He definitely should using 3D forms if he wants to give advices.

[Anonymous No.4877059]

>>4877048
Yes.

[Anonymous No.4877091]

>>4869192
Vilppu had a similar idea but using a bean shape.

[Anonymous No.4877102]

>>4877008
That's true, but he's carrying an unnessacary burden on himself outright refusing to study them. Redraws in this thread look way better

[Anonymous No.4877652]

This guy will never learn

[Anonymous No.4877655]

>>4877652
reddit hugboxed him so hard he will never improve from this.

[Anonymous No.4877688]

>>4877652
>VA for his OC
This nigga ego tripping so hard lmao

[Anonymous No.4877701]

>>4877688
i like my little cartoons, but this guy legit sounds like he's in love with his oc. he's prob gonna make the va say all kinds of lewd things.

[Anonymous No.4877849]

>>4877652
I get the feeling he’s actually in love with his OC. Like, romantically.

[Anonymous No.4877878]

>>4877849
You call this being in love with your oc wait till you see what happened to lightning from ff 13 lol

[Anonymous No.4877883]

[Anonymous No.4877890]

>>4877883
basado...basado

[Anonymous No.4877892]

>>4877701
incredibly based

[Anonymous No.4877893]

>>4877883
Modern day Galatea kek

[Anonymous No.4877906]

>>4873561
I feel bad that his women never have any hips.

[Anonymous No.4878038]

>>4877652
my walled is ready to spill all of my coombucks on her

[Anonymous No.4878562]

>>4873631
oh dear is this man okay?

[Anonymous No.4878567]

>>4870071
Underrated post.

[Anonymous No.4878571]

>>4870921
>can you find works from this board that have this appeal?
Yes, just check the self promotion thread. There's a bunch of people better than this in there.

[Anonymous No.4879100]

>>4869192
That anatomy is laughable

[Anonymous No.4879142]

>>4879100
"anatomy"

[Anonymous No.4879149]

>>4879142
And "completely original" pillow technique

[Anonymous No.4879159]

>>4869192
rent free

[Anonymous No.4879161]

>>4869264
reminds me of humpton

[Anonymous No.4879701]

>>4877849
That's been abundantly clear for a long time lmao

[Anonymous No.4879753]

>>4869192
No it's not, look at the result. Do you want to draw like that?
Shoot for the stars and study from people who have mastered their craft, not some fag of average skill who draws the same girl over and over for reddit bux.

[Anonymous No.4880569]

>>4879161
What's wrong with hampton?

[Anonymous No.4880577]

>>4873140
>>4873140
>because it's Kiki in a hoodie
THANK you

[Anonymous No.4880583]

>>4873631
this absolutely screams 2008 and i fucking despise it

[Anonymous No.4880594]

>all these crabs ITT
lmao, skill DOES NOT matter. What matter is mass appeal and how it will grab normalfags attention. Pic related, an artist for a series that sold millions of copies. OP artist did the right thing not giving a fuck you people opinions. That's how you succeed. Do you people genuinely think normalfags gives a shit about anatomy? As long as it doesn't look too alien they will love it.

[Anonymous No.4880595]

>>4869192
God I love the idea of women being injured in a POV setting starring me

[Anonymous No.4881558]

if i saw that op image on my twitter feed i would scroll down without a like

[Anonymous No.4881617]

>>4877043
Once I was trying to ask an artist I like more about his OC, he got mad at me for some reason; I assume it's because his OC had no background, but it felt like reminding him of this made him annoyied at me for some reason... I mean, usually people get super excited when you ask them about their OC, the guy's reaction felt really unusual.

[Anonymous No.4881620]

>>4877043
Once I was asking an artist I like more details about his OC, because it looked really good, but he got mad at me for some reason. I assume it was probably because I acidentally reminded him that his OC has no background at all, it just exists, but why would he get mad at me because of that?

[Anonymous No.4882443]

>>4881620
>>4877043
Is it common these days for artists to publicly share OC characters? I'm only familiar with this trend from furries and Sonic autists. Has it expanded in years?

[Anonymous No.4882456]

>>4877043
You hate fun? Got it
>>4882443
Artist draws in ocs has a way to represent themselves on social media. Doing so makes allows the artist to create some form of community. You expect artist to be fanart machines?

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>>4882443
I'm not aware of an artist that doesn't draw "OCs" if they draw any figures from imagination at all. The term might be cringy but the concept is very natural.

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>>4882456
I expect artists to have creativity and actually build meaningful stuff with their art, not just bullshit wank material to make up for the fact you don’t have a gf.

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>>4882489
Even wank material always includes some original characters, I can't imagine anyone only doing fanshit

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>>4882461
So the definition of OC has expanded to literally any character portrait? It used to be about inserting oneself into a fandom with a personalized avatar.

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>>4869192
Giving advice to beginners when you're a beginner yourself is genuinely cruel

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>>4882493
There’s way more options to art than just drawing fan art and just drawing your shitty OC waifu no one cares about.

[Anonymous No.4882545]

>>4882541
T.fruit basket painter

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>>4882545
kek

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>>4882511
This nigger should be much more ahead, he legit draws every day.

[Anonymous No.4882569]

>>4882551

The problem is that, as others have said, he is continually "working" to pump out more of these OC drawings to satisfy some random redditor's request (Chloe in XYZ outfit, Chloe doing XYZ pose, etc). So he's just going via rote repetition with no thought or reflection. As such, it's not that surprising that he hasn't improved much. Hell, when's the last time he drew Chloe in a more interesting pose or doing anything? Can Grafo even draw that? I highly doubt it.

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>>4870921
>shoes only when going out
coward

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>>4871458
Lol so quirky and funni

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>>4877652
This is so fucking weird. He's not even making an anime

[Anonymous No.4884250]

>>4884159
Obviously he wants to record asmr for his own use, he is unironically in love with a drawing

[Anonymous No.4884304]

>>4884250
>ok so I need you to tell me im a good little cuck
>for real it's what Chloe would say
>why are you making this weird just say it

[Anonymous No.4884307]

>>4877003
Am retard, someone plz explain. I have no drawing experience. Should I start trying to draw sexy girls, or should I study sexy girls, and then try to draw them? How does this work?

>>4877906
oh god, literally no hip bones at all

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>>4884307
Just draw is not a meme but it will not work for every person. That guy has at least 190# "drawing practices" and 5+ years of drawing chibi comics, I have made less drawings in 4 years and I draw better than him by "just drawing", observing, and learning from my own mistakes.

[Anonymous No.4885515]

It's actually making me feel good knowing that guy this popular is worse than me at art

[Anonymous No.4885533]

At least the tits are in a somewhat right area for now

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>>4885533
kill youself grafo, fuck you

[Anonymous No.4885589]

>>4885515
Just pander and make a shitty webcomic and spread it all over reddit. Buy yourself gold once and watch them eat it up for literally as long as you can keep it up. They just stan any retard that seems to get a slightly positive response over there. Unironically sheeple

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>>4885589
Easy way to make a following, use redditards to your advantage, no shame

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>>4885589
I need money, so I will become a panderer faggot. If I make it someday I will report back.

[Anonymous No.4886862]

>>4869192
What's legit about it is the directiv line
no movement = pillow shape = boring
An S shape or an L will always be more interesting than that H/pillow shape standing position shit.
like this >>4870399

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>>4869192

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>>4869210
Ngmi clown

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>>4869264
Insane, unejucated people on ic, why are you there...

[Anonymous No.4887936]

>>4869321
Oh gosh anatomytard, dude ffs...

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>>4869887
>HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
You overrating ic fags... 75% just imagine...

[Anonymous No.4887951]

>>4870086
Lol, are you brrainlet, cant imagine this shape in hyperangles tf, you ngmi bro

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>>4870445
>hurr durr aNaToMy wRoNg!!!

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>>4886410
You become what you pretend to be

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>>4871105
You are insane, while this dude already making it, truly board of begtards

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>>4869251
My fucking sides

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>>4879100
Stfu

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>>4869192
how can a man be correct but still do it wrong

[Anonymous No.4888044]

>>4873900
>If I did that I'd feel too rapey
what the fuck happened to this board that it got filled with the dumbest fucking normalfag pieces of shit on the planet. i'd say it was because it got filled with women but this board has always had women on it and the /ic/ oldfag chicks are all as disturbed as the most fucked-up wizards on here.

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>>4874034
>if only those reddit points could feed you
https://www.patreon.com/SrGrafo
https://www.redbubble.com/shop/srgrafo
ya finna seethe?

[Anonymous No.4888096]

>>4888044
We do get normal fags every once in a while. Technically everyone here was a normal fag at some point before they started lurking here or posting and getting into board culture or whatever. Some normies get told to post their shit here for critique, idk if its serious or as a joke but it happens.

[Anonymous No.4888183]

>>4869881
>>4869192
His stuff is way too flat, he needs to add volume to his method.
But then it wouldn't be as simple to understand and noob appealing, which they are just looking for a method to make something appealing without having to put in all the work that usually comes with it.

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>>4887970
if making mediocre art is enough for you then sure

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>>4869201
same reason every other trashy webcomic artist is popular, """"""REPEATABILITY"""""

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>>4871458
I tried redoing the torso, any thoughts?

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>>4869192
You guys are just jealous that he has a subreddit where the entire front page is minimum 10k+ upvotes regardless of how terrible or boring his subjects or art is.

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>>4889019
lol, op is just a beg asking about drawing method

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>>4889019
Can you accept reddit karma?

[Anonymous No.4889059]

>>4888057
>patreon
>500 people
>1 buck per month for the base level
was expecting to be a lot angrier after going there tbqh.

art commissioning and normalfag financial decisions in general are baffling to me, but finding a few hundred people to spend a buck or two a month to belong to some meme club that provides no benefits seems par for the course.

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>>4873631
this screams of early 2010s and i love it

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>>4877043
i just like having something to draw when i run out of ideas

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>>4869201
"memes"

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>>4889477
yikes. delete /ic lol

[Anonymous No.4892378]

>>4869192
huh, cool
>>4869356
instant coom, reject the original

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>>4871659
God I love the proportions. There's something very appealing how the head size fits the rest of the torso, despite not being particularly realistic.

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>>4873561
Grafo could instantly fix his problems if he didn't draw the ribcage so low. That's all he needs

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>>4892389

The hips are also kind of funky the more I look at it. Everything kind of does the more you stare. Grafo isn't one of those "knows the rules so he breaks the rules to get the style he wants," he's just drawing pillows and putting bobs and vagene over it.

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>>4869356
so much fucking better, well done anon

[Anonymous No.4892723]

>>4877883
someone send this shit to grafo

[Anonymous No.4892823]

>>4892723
he'd have a psychotic break. that's his sonichu

[Anonymous No.4893214]

I can't explain why but I find this whole thing interesting. This dude got 100k followers from simply drawing his own oc waifu posing almost naked everyday(does that count as cucking?). There's other people like that like NottyTiffy but this one feels more weird.

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>>4893214
Thats not why he is popular. He is the template "insert your opinion" guy

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>>4892823

"What are you doing Chloe, get away from that hambeast!"
"You don't have to tell me twice but during the Stone Age...!"

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>>4888839
Much better