/beg/ BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.4863975]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

previous thread >>4860810

READ THE STICKY for some guidance:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - preferably ~1000px, <1.1mb

BE ACTIVE AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS - all it takes is a little feedback to give someone a lot of motivation.

Tutorial & Reference Collection
>http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

[Anonymous No.4863984]

>>4863975

[Anonymous No.4863988]

>>4863975
I-IM G-GONNA D-DRAAAAAAAAW

[Anonymous No.4863992]

>>4863984
this makes no sense t bh

[Anonymous No.4863997]

What are good youtube chanels for beginners?

[Anonymous No.4863999]

>>4863992
that's why you read books

[Anonymous No.4864001]

Week 4 of Hampton Analitical Figure Drawing

[Anonymous No.4864003]

>>4863997
look up ZakToon's channel

[Anonymous No.4864030]

Got told not to use airbrush for shading, to use hard round instead. I'm new here, why is hard round brush a meme?

[Anonymous No.4864033]

>>4864030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nt9fa8jZUE&ab_channel=SinixDesign

[Anonymous No.4864039]

>>4864001
Full res model pic please

[Anonymous No.4864051]

>>4864001

[Anonymous No.4864056]

>>4864051
based redline anon helping /begs/

[Anonymous No.4864063]

>>4863967
Thanks friendo, will work on tightening things up.

[Anonymous No.4864066]

>>4864051
IM G-GONNA C-COOOOOOM IM FUCKING COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMING

[Anonymous No.4864069]

>>4864051
I know what you mean, its a 15 min pose i did two weeks ago. Now i got much better (i hope) at contour lines, i've been practicing it as a warm up.

>>4864039
Hereis a referece, it's from quickposes.com

[Anonymous No.4864073]

>>4864069
Fuck forgot to include

[Anonymous No.4864077]

>>4864033
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.4864083]

>>4864073
UGHUHUHUUHUHH IM COOMING

[Anonymous No.4864087]

>>4864051
You have some real neat handwriting, anon.

[Anonymous No.4864091]

Reposting from last thread since nobody replied.
I just worked with (fake) leaf gold for the first time. Can I make the surface smoother even on that rough paper?

[Anonymous No.4864103]

>>4863975
Anyone got any Youtubers like MikeyMegaMega but for realistic bodies? I can't do anatomy with proper 3d construction unless I see someone else do it first

[Anonymous No.4864136]

What do you think ?

[Anonymous No.4864139]

First time doing it a bit more sculpt-y instead of just sketching it out. Kind of liked the process.

[Anonymous No.4864172]

anons help
are the boxes in the 250 box challenge supposed to have vanishing points or not?
i'm retarded

[Anonymous No.4864178]

>>4864172
When drawing boxes you should always keep in mind the vanishing points. You don't have to draw a horizon line and vanishing points for every box, but they sure help.

[Anonymous No.4864215]

>>4864172
If you know about vanishing points, do some with vanishing points. Practice boxes in every form of perspective you know about, hell even fish eye or 5 point if you can

[Anonymous No.4864222]

>>4863975
Anyone got that list of art basics listed in colored categories and ranked with how hard/what to start with ? you know it had stuff like propotions / digure drawings/ perspective

[Anonymous No.4864231]

I tried to create the illusion of babers invisible sword coated in blood but I don't think it worked very well

[Anonymous No.4864241]

Been going through a bunch of pinterest poses, any anatomy crit is appreciated

[Anonymous No.4864242]

>>4864222
This one?

[Anonymous No.4864246]

>>4864242
YAAA

[Anonymous No.4864253]

>>4863997
Here's some I watch from time to time

Sycra
Sinix Design
The Drawing Database
Marco Bucci
S Michael Hampton
Reiq

[Anonymous No.4864259]

>>4864103
hampton has a youtube channel just search s michael hampton

[Anonymous No.4864264]

>>4864242
Pretty based guide desu

[Anonymous No.4864287]

i know it's shit but can i get some specific pointers to work on

[Anonymous No.4864301]

>>4864287
Also i know i should have erased the stray lines but fuck it there's bigger concerns to be had

[Anonymous No.4864307]

>>4863975
Bit late to the Bowsette train. Anyone here proud of there drawings for like an hour and then feel like it's shit?

I'm aware of most of the flaws, i.e. the arm which I know how to fix but cba. I think my main struggle is rendering. Right now it's glorified pillow shading. Lemme know what you think of the appeal tho.

[Anonymous No.4864342]

>>4862893

[Anonymous No.4864384]

how do i make my art more soulfull?

[Anonymous No.4864416]

Are there any major mistakes on this you can point out? I’m learning about lighting and shading. Is the contrast high enough? That was the critique I got on my last piece.

[Anonymous No.4864437]

>>4864416
Sorry, trying to figure out how to resize multiple layers at a time.

[Anonymous No.4864447]

Here we go, much smaller now. Critique?

[Anonymous No.4864455]

>>4863975
>>4864439

[Anonymous No.4864478]

>>4863975
Loomis studies, Should I keep redrawing these until they look good or should I move onto to the next pages of the book?

[Anonymous No.4864479]

>>4864478
Also how much time should I spend in these drawings?

[Anonymous No.4864480]

[Anonymous No.4864509]

>>4863975
couldnt decide what to throw in that last corner.

[Anonymous No.4864538]

Is my anatomy good and does my face looks 3d enough ?
pls.
I have a hard time with volume that aren't nose i think

[Anonymous No.4864543]

>>4864287
that dude(?) is looking at something he likes

[Anonymous No.4864544]

>>4864073
Thanks

[Anonymous No.4864548]

[Anonymous No.4864565]

>>4864538
The eyes definitely need to be positioned better. But otherwise, pretty good. Rest will mostly just be getting in mileage.

[Anonymous No.4864574]

I'm three pages into Fun with a Pencil and I'm more /beg/ than most of /beg/, did some doodles at work.

[Anonymous No.4864577]

>>4864565
Thanks mate, i have trouble with eye spacing and proportions.
I see what you mean !

[Anonymous No.4864579]

>>4864480
are you using mspaint

[Anonymous No.4864598]

>>4864307
I don't find the face appealing. maybe it is something about the nose/mouth relationship, its looks weird somehow.

[Anonymous No.4864607]

>>4864548
interesting

[Anonymous No.4864624]

>>4864478
You should do them now and again, but you should do hundreds of the simplified ones (image related).

At least go up through step 4: Cranial / facial mass and the 3rds division, but do SOME all the way to a finish.

It should only take a few minutes to complete one, but take as long as you need to do it right.

[Anonymous No.4864636]

Just gonna fuck it up in inking.

[Anonymous No.4864639]

>>4864636
youve gotten too comfortable in your style, broaden your horizons

[Anonymous No.4864642]

>>4864307
The stylization of the right eye is overdone, making it look almost alien and flat. Everything else is good, however.

[Anonymous No.4864656]

>>4864639
Landscape?

[Anonymous No.4864660]

>>4864624
>you should do hundreds of the simplified ones (image related)
not to be le retarded beg but why is it pushed so much to practice these? and by practice i don't mean applying them to actual sketches of figures and such but i see people practicing the heads as a stand-alone lesson type of thing.

[Anonymous No.4864693]

[Anonymous No.4864694]

[Anonymous No.4864701]

>>4864660
Take it from another retarded beg, it's important to know at least the basic proportions of a human head, so if you decide to do a face from imagination you can quickly discern what's wrong. It also helps to practice how a head looks from different views. Remember, you're trying to build up an innate sense of perspective on shapes first.

[Anonymous No.4864704]

Reposting here, because the other thread is full.

[Anonymous No.4864706]

>>4864704
Is that a man with tits?

[Anonymous No.4864708]

>>4864704
My god, forget figure drawing for the moment and don't do it until you can at least draw cylinders and boxes confidently.

[Anonymous No.4864727]

>>4864704
shit man work on your line art

[Anonymous No.4864731]

>>4864704
MONKE

[Anonymous No.4864732]

Hey guys i got a question, to show the idea of 3d on a figure like the human body, the main way is shading? i ask that because i can show the idea of 3d on a ball for example with countour lines but when drawing more complex thinks that are not that obvious i cant and the only way to show the volume of a nose for example that i could do is trough shading. I suck at shading so i just wanna know if i`m right in thinking that way.

[Anonymous No.4864734]

>>4864704
the uber beg has finally arrived

[Anonymous No.4864750]

>>4864732
its all about the shading
but dont get into polished turd territory

[Anonymous No.4864759]

>>4864704
drawabox.com

[Anonymous No.4864764]

>>4864734
All salute the uber beg. The one who will make everyone look decent by comparison

[Anonymous No.4864768]

>>4864764
Uber begs of today are the DaVinci's of tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4864791]

new to trying to draw weeb stuff and digital.
I'm having difficulty doing self crit; if I dry to draw something realistic I can at least SEE how it looks
wrong and make an attempt to fix it, but with stylized stuff I'm sorta lost other than "it looks bad."
i.e, when i fuck up a realistic head I can see "oh, i did that nose real fucking badly, it looks too flat for this angle"
Are there something like those planar head models but for anime? Even in animu drawings I like it's hard to tell what the actual form of the head is/reads as flat, but it still manages to look appealing.

Also, lineart is hard, but I figure this is more of an issue with my actual motor control and underdrawing and will just take mileage.
That said, if anyone has good info on lineart 'theory' (use of lineweight, etc) or practice ideas I'm open.

pic related is not very good but the first sketch that doesn't make me hate myself
digital art can be a bit tiring, I have too much freedom and leeway to spend ages tweaking shit.

[Anonymous No.4864809]

[Anonymous No.4864816]

>>4864809
fierce brave etc.

[Anonymous No.4864870]

>>4864791

[Anonymous No.4864882]

anime sucks lmao

[Anonymous No.4864884]

How do I solve the problem with not being sure what to draw?

I end up spending more time looking at references and saving them for later, than I do actually using the references for artwork.

[Anonymous No.4864888]

>>4864884
I draw a shape or an errant line and look at it for a minute. Then I add to it until it reminds me of something funny.

[Anonymous No.4864889]

>>4864884
References are supplementary. You start a drawing from imagination and use references for certain aspects when you feel the need to.

[Anonymous No.4864890]

I’m expanding my horizons? No bewbs at least.

[Anonymous No.4864894]

>>4864890
What refs you using for these, great expressions and on your part those are some nice lines

[Anonymous No.4864895]

>>4864884
lmao

[Anonymous No.4864896]

>>4864791
just find artists whose style you find appealing and dissect what makes it look good, then replicate it. anime doesn't necessarily have an authentic 3d form it represents, for example there was a talk from the devs of guilty gear (a 3d fighting game stylized to look like cel shaded anime), and they even said they had to program in special exceptions in the shading so that the shadow wouldn't appear where it should, but instead in a way that matched the shadow shape that an animator would design

[Anonymous No.4864907]

i really want to color like pic related, what do?

[Anonymous No.4864911]

>>4864907
hard round brush

[Anonymous No.4864946]

>>4863984

[Anonymous No.4864947]

>>4864479
Depends, But say if you wanna do lots in a day aim for 20 ~ 30 min max for each head, You can also do some 5 minute sketches in between or some 1 minute ones to try to feel the gesture of the head.

[Anonymous No.4864964]

>>4864894
Just as my work suffers from a lack of construction because I’ve never consciously constructed, I also don’t use refs. I did look up a couple of pics to get a better idea of a corgi body structure.

[Anonymous No.4864972]

I... don't understand how gesture drawing works...

[Anonymous No.4864974]

>>4864972
It's a meme, don't bother.

[Anonymous No.4864987]

>>4864974
Based anime retard

[Anonymous No.4864989]

>>4864987
Say whatever you want but gesture drawing is still a meme. Gesture is not a meme though.

[Anonymous No.4864991]

>>4864574
these are a great start dude, pretty nice for doodles, you're on the right track

[Anonymous No.4864992]

>>4864989
>everything I don't understand is a meme
Based

[Anonymous No.4864993]

>>4864987
the best anime uses gesture

[Anonymous No.4864999]

Brand new to the painting stuff.
Critiques so far? Besides the tree having no texture, I'm trying to get basics of light and shadow.

[Anonymous No.4865007]

>>4864704
Wew

[Anonymous No.4865026]

>>4864946
Why do you think the ball doesn't coincide with the center of the box? Similarly, consider why it fitting inside the box might not be the important relationship between the ball and the box.

[Anonymous No.4865030]

>>4865026
>consider why it fitting inside the box might not be the important relationship between the ball and the box.

jesus fucking christ

[Anonymous No.4865035]

>>4865026
>Similarly, consider why it fitting inside the box might not be the important relationship between the ball and the box.
why waste time drawing the box before the ball at all then

[Anonymous No.4865050]

>>4864972
study micheal hampton, he makes it easy.

[Anonymous No.4865057]

>>4865035
You don't. You learn the box, learn the ball, learn the head. The superimposition is to show the progression of understandings, each in a logical order, from simple to complex. Ultimately you will draw ONLY the head (although it can still be useful to draw heads in boxes for perspective study - see the video on this topic by moderndayjames).

Misunderstanding that there is a progression of learning is why people are asking things like "I drew loomis heads, now what?"

[Anonymous No.4865059]

>>4864704
Beautiful

[Anonymous No.4865062]

>>4865050
Any book in particular?

[Anonymous No.4865075]

>>4865062
Not the other poster, but Figure Drawing: Design and Invention. It DOES have amazing gesture stuff, but as a beginner I found I needed something a little more visual to learn from. Watching Proko on gesture etc. went a long way. After that Hampton has some of the best gestures I've ever seen and he does have a solid breakdown and wonderful execution.

[Anonymous No.4865078]

>>4865057
I can literally smell you through your post

[Anonymous No.4865095]

>>4865062
just one, design and invetion that >>4865075 pointed out. He also has a course for anatomy and gesture which you can check in the video course threads. I find his method much easier to follow since it's just formulaic. If you still have problems you can refer to his youtube channel and attempt to emulate what he does, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgPj2jSpcJaN6C5xMi8ohfg/ .

[Anonymous No.4865099]

how to make things cleaner and sharper thru some bs method, also is it ok?

[Anonymous No.4865109]

>>4864870
beautiful, than you
I'll try and study this

[Anonymous No.4865112]

Did that thing where you look at a picture upside down and draw it that way. Is this even something you can consciously improve on, or do you just do it over and over? My mommy thinks I did a good job.

[Anonymous No.4865129]

what did I fuck up in this? I can't find anything but I know I fucked up somehow.

[Anonymous No.4865130]

>>4865112
upside down my ass, you just need to get into the certain mindset, finding that is something that you have to do on your own. Just draw upside down again and find those certain queues.

[Anonymous No.4865132]

>>4865112
cringe

[Anonymous No.4865193]

is it normal to find issues with the drawings of the masters like Loomis or the course sites like drawbox? I was having an issue with my own box perspective practice, but when I looked at their examples the have the same fucking problem.

[Anonymous No.4865209]

I tried to draw Horikoshis twitter sketch of Izuku vs Gentle

[Anonymous No.4865211]

>>4865209
Here is the original

[Anonymous No.4865213]

>>4865129
I think the back and front pillar are too far apart

[Anonymous No.4865214]

>>4865209
>>4865211
Grind your fundies, your genuine attempt looks like a low effort shit post.

[Anonymous No.4865218]

>>4865214
What are the funidies I need to grind every one says to do them but what are they? Do I draw the fucking boxes, Do I shade the circle till its a sphere do I draw the naked lady?

[Anonymous No.4865220]

>>4865218
Read the fucking sticky you moron, my god

[Anonymous No.4865263]

>>4863975

[Anonymous No.4865291]

Tried my best... Let me have it. What do I have to fix if it's even salvageable?

[Anonymous No.4865301]

>>4865291
pretty sure everyone would tell you to finish it first

[Anonymous No.4865306]

>>4865291

Has potential, kid. You need to finish it.

[Anonymous No.4865325]

>>4864642
wow I think I see what you're saying. I was completely blind to it before. Thanks for pointing that out

[Anonymous No.4865369]

>>4865263
You should through your boxes
Also the lower right line diverges from the top line on the left plane
I really like the face though, keep it up

[Anonymous No.4865378]

>>4865369
It diverges but it should converge to the vanishig point those lines are turning away from**

[Anonymous No.4865405]

>>4864890
can you draw something that isnt fucking disney

[Anonymous No.4865433]

>>4865193
Post an example. Just because it doesn't look intuitive doesn't mean it's wrong. That being said, Loomis makes mistakes all the fucking time.

[Anonymous No.4865439]

>>4865291
>>4865263
>>4865209
>>4865112
>>4864999
>>4864791
>>4864704
>>4864693
Say it with me now!
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[Anonymous No.4865463]

>>4865433
See the back left vertical line? It's upper part doesn't hit the actual junction of the left and back line, it hits just to the left of it, which means that at some point the work with the lines directing at the vanishing point is wrong. And this is Loomis.

[Anonymous No.4865467]

Is brush with 100 opacity good for a lineart?

[Anonymous No.4865468]

>>4865405
Oh. That’s what they meant. Uhm, shit. No? Got a style I should try for?

[Anonymous No.4865469]

>>4865291
Really good. Go ahead and finish

[Anonymous No.4865475]

>>4865463
Don't tell me all the """"mistakes"""" are hyper-autistic nitpicks like this...

[Anonymous No.4865481]

>>4865475
Are you telling me this shit right here doesn't piss you off? I had the same issue but when I look to see how THEY do it to avoid this, they have the same problem?

[Anonymous No.4865483]

>>4865481
I assure you, absolutely no one, NO ONE will ever, EVER notice something as incredibly irrelevant as your imaginary lines being a single millimeter off. My lord, godspeed anon.

[Anonymous No.4865498]

>>4865481

[Anonymous No.4865507]

>>4865498
Big enough now? Also anon you really need to get glasses.

[Anonymous No.4865552]

>>4865507
It turns out artists aren't photocopiers. Weird.

[Anonymous No.4865555]

>>4865112
>mommy
Just exactly how old are you?

[Anonymous No.4865563]

[Anonymous No.4865567]

>>4865552
the comparison would only work if he were copying something

[Anonymous No.4865573]

>>4865468
stop thinking in styles and just draw from life/references if you want actual progression as an artist, you are not ready to fall comfortable in a style yet go work on your fundies

[Anonymous No.4865576]

>>4865563
I'd say if this is generally your level of art you have surpassed /beg/. Great colors and lines. Keep at it.

[Anonymous No.4865598]

>>4865291
make the upper legs longer, next time

[Anonymous No.4865605]

Absolute newfag here. I'm still stuck in the "forms and shapes" part where I try to use shading to create the illusion of 3D. I just can't do it. I know that the idea is that you need to imagine a fixed point where the light comes from, and you need to imagine a sort of "wire" going accross the figure to show its dimensions but I can't do it.

Is there anything I could do/use to improve my understanding of this? Any videos that explain it in depth and not "just use shades bro! Just imagine a wire going across it bro!"? Or maybe some exercises I should do?

>>4863984
Eh, I feel like this is too advanced for me. Making it look 3D without shading? I get anxious just thinking about it.

[Anonymous No.4865606]

>>4865507
im sorry you're not gonna make it, you are mentally ill and autistic, choose something else, like programming or whatever C++ robot brains are good at

[Anonymous No.4865624]

>>4865605
Unironically do the 250 boxes challenge for DAB. It really helped me understand how to treat the page as a 3D space. If you can't make an object look 3D without shading, no amount of shading is going to make it look right. Start with your understanding of the forms first, worry about shading second.

[Anonymous No.4865627]

>>4865605
>Eh, I feel like this is too advanced for me
why the fuck are you trying to shade if you cant even draw a box and sphere

[Anonymous No.4865637]

>>4865624
>250 boxes challenge
https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes
This one? Just googled it. I guess I'll go to their recommended lesson 1 first.

>>4865627
IDK man I just googled shit and ended up with some youtube video series and it was effectively
>Draw a circle
>OK, now let's make it look 3D through shading
Thanks for correcting my course though, I'll save shading for later.

[Anonymous No.4865644]

>>4865637
>youtube video series
if you wanna get better read the books in the sticky or do a course from the torrent thread

[Anonymous No.4865662]

>>4865606
stop projecting your insecurities into others bro

[Anonymous No.4865681]

>>4865637
>DAB
start from lesson 0, get printer paper and the right tools (fineliner, ruler, etc).
Think and take your time on lesson 1. Focus on steady and controlled motions, you want to perfect these they are extremely valuable. (Like form in weightlifting). You want to visualize as well.
Finally listen to what he says and don't grind, do the homework exactly as stated.
GL man, hope you make it.

[Anonymous No.4865712]

Another life drawing.

[Anonymous No.4865740]

>>4865463
Why do you think this is important? He wasn’t an architectural draftsman he was an illustrator.

Missing the point so badly is part of why so many in here can’t even get past the box drawing stage.

[Anonymous No.4865749]

>>4865740
Because said boxes are used to work out the perspective of everything, if with a ruler, such mistake still happens, without it a bigger one can. And since it's used to figure out the most basic building blocks of a drawing, it can generate a cascade effect of wrong perspective in the drawing.

And the reason why people can't get past that is the incorrect assumption that perfection is required, they feel that if they can't get a box right, how will they get anything more complex?

[Anonymous No.4865772]

Anons, please help. I'm sorry for the link but I can't upload files sadly.

https://i.imgur.com/dSDVhZA.jpg

I've been working on this since yesterday, just showed it to my bf and he said it was ugly and completely unappealing. I was kinda liking it so I don't know where I went so wrong. Can you offer any advice?

[Anonymous No.4865776]

>>4865749
I suppose you're right. Hhonestly a lot of people posting boxes here don't need to worry about the tiniest nitpick, they need to worry about not creating MC Escher monster cubes with 7 sides.

[Anonymous No.4865778]

>>4865712
Nice job, but your edge control needs work. Just about every shape in this image has a soft edge (even the outside of the bottle is nebulous).

A hard object like a glass bottle should definitely have some hard shapes (sharp highlights, crisp outer edges etc.)

[Anonymous No.4865786]

>>4865507
Just 4 u babe

[Anonymous No.4865791]

>>4864103
https://www.youtube.com/c/Masterpaintingnowlearn2draw

[Anonymous No.4865799]

>>4865772

[Anonymous No.4865800]

[Anonymous No.4865804]

>>4865799
Ahhh yes I see what you mean about the perspective there. That slight turn makes a huge difference, thank you. Is her anatomy otherwise generally fine?

Also, my bf tends to have a fairly good eye for ~appeal~ but doesn't know how to give constructive criticism.

[Anonymous No.4865805]

>>4865563
your not beg
get outta here anon
and good job :)

[Anonymous No.4865809]

anons, i respect your art pieces but why do so many of you take “creative liberties” with the tits

[Anonymous No.4865812]

>>4865099
I like this quite a lot, but that back of her dress reads oddly. That triangle patch of light seems strangely placed... just the shading in general from the waist down.

[Anonymous No.4865821]

>>4865804
The feet are small but I'll chalk that up to style. The anatomy is certainly simple, but your front hand gesture looks great, everything is proportionate etc.The hair looks phenomenal.

The only thing that SUPER sticks out is the right elbow (on the arm that is held up). You did the right shape (the curve up to the bone and then the flat ulnar section leading to the hand) but the curve is a little too big. Make that transition less chunky - leave the elbow right where it is, the curve underneath is the issue, it should cut a little closer to the pinch of the inner elbow.

I find it appealing. Good simple character design, well executed.

[Anonymous No.4865830]

>>4865821
Thank you, friend, I really appreciate i! I'll try to tweak that curve to make it look a little more natural.

[Anonymous No.4865838]

>>4865555
some people still live with their parents in their mid 20's sadly enough

[Anonymous No.4865839]

>>4865099

[Anonymous No.4865849]

Does this look like a good way to practice? Am I doing anything wrong? I'll appreciate any feedback, tips or advice. I'm trying to get better at head drawing, worked through Huston's beginner course but it still feels like I mostly draw from observation and don't really understand form or planes, I got to the jaw chapter on Bucci's course last month and intend to finish it now, hoping that will help me with understanding planes.

[Anonymous No.4865869]

>>4865800

[Anonymous No.4865878]

DAILY REMINDER TO HAVE FUN AND DRAW
ALWAYS FINISH YOUR PIECES NO MATTER HOW SHIT

[Anonymous No.4865884]

>>4865838
depending on the country that is the norm

[Anonymous No.4865889]

>>4865878
>ALWAYS FINISH YOUR PIECES NO MATTER HOW SHIT
Do not do this.
It's good to finish pieces more often than you don't, but if you know a piece isn't going anywhere and know you can do a better job with a better foundation, then it is good practice to start fresh.
Turd polishing is how you wind up like Sakimichan.

[Anonymous No.4865904]

Is there a point in studying loomis if drawing from references is much better?

[Anonymous No.4865909]

>>4865904
Only study loomis for what you can't get from references, i.e construction techniques. Yes, real life ref is much better than copying drawings.

[Anonymous No.4865910]

>>4865909
loomis is for constructing humans but there are millions of reference images for that

[Anonymous No.4865911]

>>4865904
studying loomis and using references are not mutually exclusive, both are supplemental to the other and everyone should utilize both

[Anonymous No.4865912]

>>4865904
Studying most professional artist will help you including Loomis. It's helpful to have an understanding of the drawing process of other artist . How they simplify forms, their techniques, and so on.

[Anonymous No.4865915]

>>4865889
idk for me if I finish a piece it makes it a lot easier to find what I did wrong and learn from it
A shit piece also gives me chances to experiment and try new things i wouldn't have done otherwise which is cool too

[Anonymous No.4865921]

>>4864704
this is the most beg thing i have ever seen

[Anonymous No.4865922]

>>4864791
do you mean seppuku or are you bad at drawing and bad at telling jokes?

[Anonymous No.4865924]

>>4865911
>>4865912
it's just that no matter how many loomis heads i draw it's nowhere near as good as a drawing made with refs

[Anonymous No.4865927]

>>4865924
No. It's the other way around. You'll improve your loomis heads by drawing from ref.

[Anonymous No.4865937]

>>4865439
N

[Anonymous No.4865939]

I

[Anonymous No.4865943]

>>4865922
>do you mean seppuku or are you bad at drawing and bad at telling jokes?
Commit sudoku is so old it literally started on YTMND.

[Anonymous No.4865945]

>>4865943
So you're bad at telling jokes.
Thanks for answering.

[Anonymous No.4865947]

Working on a moe JRPG, here's your familiar.

[Anonymous No.4865966]

>>4865786
I'm saving this and then I'm gonna shop a miniature image of the screenshot into it later

[Anonymous No.4865976]

>>4865778
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.4865982]

>>4865966
I look forward to our beautiful collaboration

[Anonymous No.4866035]

just got accused of tracing (even though i drew a different pose from my reference picture + too many badly drawn angles to be a copy of good art)

How do you think i can minimize this issue? I just want to draw wholesome cartoon-anime drawings.

[Anonymous No.4866043]

>>4866035
Loomis, seriously, without any irony

[Anonymous No.4866051]

>>4866035
Minimize tracing accusations? Stop listening to non-artists.

They don't know what the fuck is up. Just take it as a compliment that someone thinks it looks unusually good and move on.

[Anonymous No.4866054]

Got bored with quarantine, so I bought a tablet and started digital drawing today. Screenless tablets aren't as easy as I thought. I hope I can stick to it.

[Anonymous No.4866077]

>>4865301
>>4865306
>>4865469
>>4865598
Thanks for the advice, everyone .

[Anonymous No.4866081]

>>4866054
looks cool, screenless tablets are a pain to get used to but i still prefer them to screen tablets

have you been doing traditional before?

[Anonymous No.4866083]

>>4866077
Post your ref

[Anonymous No.4866084]

>>4866054
After having a screen tablet for a while, I can take it or leave it. It's got advantages but if it broke today I'd just get a non-screen and move on with life, it isn't that big of a difference once your brain clicks with it.

[Qing Xiao No.4866100]

>>4865772
learn how to post images this is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.4866118]

>>4865821
>>4865799
I've tried to fix the lifted arm and the face. How does it look now?

https://i.imgur.com/sxq6RXY.jpg

[Anonymous No.4866119]

>>4865563
very cute and not beg

[Anonymous No.4866124]

>>4866100
Oh no, I know how to. I've got an IP address ban for some reason and haven't found a workaround yet. The VPN isn't fixing this problem.

[Anonymous No.4866161]

>>4866081
I used to draw at the back pages of my notebooks when I was still in school but i never tried learning art seriously like most people here in /beg/ I would imagine.

[Anonymous No.4866177]

>>4866083
I didn't use one...

[Anonymous No.4866204]

>>4866177
Bullshit

[Anonymous No.4866219]

how do i study heads, and when? i already watched a dude break down the proportions and do the drawabox rotation thing but with tilted heads. so i think what i’m looking for is anatomy. i have a pdf of hampton’s book since the real thing has completely vanished from stores. is that good to start with?

[Anonymous No.4866228]

i got tired half-way through

[Anonymous No.4866315]

Noob here.
I bought a tablet recently and I've been trying to do some anime pictures.

[Anonymous No.4866318]

hey guys, i didnt make this drawing up, im just drawing others drawings to figure out photoshop

>check it, tell me what ya think, what i should work on

[Anonymous No.4866320]

>>4865369
Thanks, the box and face were two sketch challenges in my discord group.

Improving art skills is fucking brutal man, appreciate the tips.

[Anonymous No.4866323]

>>4865786
blog

[Anonymous No.4866395]

what kind of notepad should I purchase?

[Anonymous No.4866424]

>>4866204
Just because you're a begtard that needs reference it doesn't mean everyone does.

[Anonymous No.4866447]

>>4864509
Airplane pointing at girl?

[Anonymous No.4866473]

>>4864704
Soul

[Anonymous No.4866517]

>>4864704
Anon, I would unironically buy this from you.

[Anonymous No.4866531]

Loomis figures pg 63

[Anonymous No.4866543]

Hamptonfigure drawing top muscles attempt number 3

[Anonymous No.4866576]

>>4864870
blog?

[Anonymous No.4866578]

So is /beg/ entirely anatomy and anime?

[Anonymous No.4866595]

>>4866578
don't forget the broken dreams

[Anonymous No.4866618]

>>4864242
That final drawing is ugly as sin.

[Anonymous No.4866629]

>>4866578
>is /beg/ entirely anatomy and anime?
Wrong. /ic/ is entirely anatomy and anime.

[Anonymous No.4866645]

>>4866618
Trapezius muscle is fucked

[Anonymous No.4866653]

[Anonymous No.4866661]

>>4864342

[Anonymous No.4866663]

>>4864242
>>4866618
nsio is a bad artist, and hasn't improved since he wrote these guides. It really says something about them

[Anonymous No.4866674]

>>4866323
no blog here just highly embarrassing attempts at drawing a portly Moroccan man from imagination, its like Vilppu and Loomis are beating the shit out of each other in my brain and its killing me
>>4866618
i would throw one of my shittier family members into a volcano to be able to draw like that but yeah her knees are def too pointy
>>4866653
your line art is getting much cleaner v nice

[Anonymous No.4866687]

>>4864972
same here. i try to intuit curves and s bends, sometimes i get it right and sometimes i get it horribly wrong, my method is so inconsistent. i watched the proko videos on gesture a dozen times and i still don't seem to get it consistent, its a total crapshoot whether i make a proportional, flowing figure or a symbol drawn one. the thing that gives me the most hang-ups is the elbows and knees. when do you choose to make rhe entire limb one sweeping line? when to have the two parts clearly distinct with separate flow? when to combine the two? my instinct is to make every limb a tapered triangle to get the motion, but that's really boring looking and doesn't really capture the flow.

[Anonymous No.4866698]

>>4866687
Try Michael Hampton, his method is much more methodical.

[Anonymous No.4866724]

Do I really need to buy this shit? I actually find the exercises in "Drawing on the right side of the brain" interesting but this is seriously hampering my enjoyment of them and my ability to do them in the first place.

[Anonymous No.4866727]

>>4866674
Thanks alot i've been trying to do less chicken scratching.

[Anonymous No.4866739]

howd you guys draw for hours, i love drawing but after 20 minutes im bored and doing finer details bores me, probably some adhd shit

[Anonymous No.4866740]

>>4866724
I have the same question, anon.

[Anonymous No.4866744]

>>4866740
Good, guess it's not just me looking for excuses then. I tried simply taking it a photo and then dividing it into sections before copying from said image, but it's very inaccurate and I feel misses the point

[Anonymous No.4866790]

>>4864999
It's great that you're values have contrast, but now you should start adding variety to your light and shadow areas; get in there with a hard brush in some of those areas with values close to the value of the light. Also don't be afraid to have some soft edges between the tree and background or ball and background. The ball locks pretty plastic because the color looks pretty black.

[Anonymous No.4866791]

>>4866724
>>4866744
Having used it myself, The point of it(I think) is to put a 2d overlay of a real object to help you draw what you see, taking a photo defeats the purpose cause then your just drawing a 2d object again, basically fuck the plane and just stare really hard at your hand irl and draw what you see

[Anonymous No.4866840]

>>4865291
FINISH!

[Anonymous No.4866846]

>>4866315
Dont hide hand, draw them.
Left arm is kinda bad, even if girls can bend the arm that way, it still looks bad, tho it'sbetter than the right one, which is just a mess.
Make the wrist smaller, make the thumb bigger, fix the fingers in general.
Connect the arm to the boobie.
Dont draw clavicles if you're gonna do them like that.
Make the right leg start higher, more attached to the belly.
Fix the neck, fix the shoulders. Breast is kind of fine.
Make her body more like an hourglass, even though not all girls have that type of body.

[Anonymous No.4866884]

feedback?

[Anonymous No.4866889]

I want to try practicing digital painting.

What should I paint?

[Anonymous No.4866892]

>>4866531
Do lesson one of drawabox.com, you need to focus on how to make decent marks on the page before you attempt to draw volumes.

[Anonymous No.4866893]

>>4866889

[Anonymous No.4866896]

>>4866884
The way you have hatching on the face is giving me nightmares. Other than that the hands stick out to me as being wrong; they're all in different sizes from each other and don't flow right. The rest I'd have to redline; don't worry we're all GMI.

[Anonymous No.4866897]

would a beg benefit from Kim Jung Gi – How to Draw Figures in Perspective?

[Anonymous No.4866942]

>>4865937
I

[Anonymous No.4866946]

>>4863984
>>4865057
>try to get into art
>look at /ic/ sticky
>hear about loomis, pdfs for books are free online, that's pretty cool
>read a bit of it, seems pretty good
>start studying it for months
>even pay to get the pdf printed out since bookstores don't carry it
>weeks later
>check out /ic/ again
>actually loomis is complete garbage for retards
>tfw

[Anonymous No.4866952]

>>4866846
Thanks for the feedback. I'll take it into account.

[Anonymous No.4866956]

>>4866884
I could swear I've done these exact references before, lol. These are a great start. Finding the pelvis is the biggest thing I think needs work, and it's super hard (the pelvis an fucking odd shape, an unintuitive size, is incredibly mobile, and TOTALLY dictates how your torso turns out).

Definitely keep working on the chest / pelvis as boxes if you're not already, the chest and pelvis as simple masses (egg / bucket, etc.) and you might start working on the pelvis in detail if you have time to spare (the Proko method is the best I've found for constructing it).

Your thighs are a very non-specific shape and to get them right you'll need to know the major muscular groups (the quads, hamstrings, glutes and adductors) and getting THOSE right means knowing at least a simple pelvis really well, so definitely keep that as a goal.

I would make sure you're not spending a minute more on the hatch shading than needed to help yourself understand the form, you need to do LOTS of these to get past this stage (or at least I had to grind them hard... sometimes I still do) and you don't want them to take too long.

Finally, make sure you're paying attention to your thigh proportions, you're drawing them short (should be about two heads long on an 8 head figure)

[Anonymous No.4866969]

I just don't know what kind of art I want tto make.

[Anonymous No.4866970]

>>4866946

How did you get that understanding from what is in that image? It's literally the opposite.

The image is literally a progression from a box to a (simplified) Loomis head. It's intended to show the requisite level of ability to move up to the Loomis head (which you'll carry with you in various levels of simplification for as long as you draw people).

If you're at stage 3, congrats, draw the piss out of that Loomis head, that's the point.

[Anonymous No.4866974]

>>4866969
You'll find out eventually, and when you do there's a 99% chance you're going to need to draw people so don't stress about that, just keep getting better.

[Anonymous No.4866985]

when does drawabox teach me about spheres

[Anonymous No.4867036]

>>4866985
>draw a box
>box
>spheres
anon...

[Anonymous No.4867045]

hampton’s book makes me feel too low iq, but i’ve also been skipping around to what i think is the important info. do you need to read the whole thing to understand wtf he’s saying?

[Anonymous No.4867046]

Is there a worthwhile benefit to learning traditional drawing despite wanting to be digital based?

[Anonymous No.4867056]

>>4867045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSzB3ESpfE0

[Anonymous No.4867076]

>>4867046
yes, sketching outside with pen and paper on a bar and feeling great about it

[Anonymous No.4867090]

>>4867036
bro how the fuck am i gonna draw a loomis head then oh no no no no

[Anonymous No.4867095]

>>4867090
You have unmasked one of the many reasons draw a box is a scam, they need your traffic and clicks

[Anonymous No.4867098]

>>4867056
>40 minutes

[Anonymous No.4867099]

>>4867095
what are the other reasons

[Anonymous No.4867100]

is this worth finishing?

[Anonymous No.4867149]

>>4867100
not really, sorry dude. you're drawing too small, the legs and waist is fine for /beg/ but the right shoulder are too off and the abs is just a symbol.

you need to learn a different way to do body construction. i recommend huston's figure drawing for artists, you can find an epub in the artbook thread. you can read the book in entirety if you want, but what really helped me out was doing one of the exercises to spend a month both tracing over and then referencing without tracing all of chapter 6's study material, as well as seeing how he compares the shapes to simpler ideas. stopping there is fine for simple cartoony material, but you can press on with the book if you want to begin serious anatomy construction.

[Anonymous No.4867154]

>>4867046
min 12:57
https://youtu.be/HjUv0Zv0T8o?t=777

[Anonymous No.4867159]

Here's an update. Where have I gone wrong on this?

[Anonymous No.4867172]

>>4867159
the hair's shape is has a few flat strands, what's left of the left upper arm looks connected wrong to the shoulder and maybe the right hip side is too far out and has a sharp corner from the back

you said you did this from imagination, right? your general understanding of figure isn't /beg/ at all. how long have you been drawing?

[Anonymous No.4867181]

>>4867095
ngmi

[Anonymous No.4867183]

>>4867154
ok i will unbind ctrlz

[Anonymous No.4867184]

any resources for drawing animals? I've tried looking for joe weatherly's book both on torrents and regular pdfs but i can't find it. I really only want to draw animals

[Anonymous No.4867192]

>>4867172
Thanks for the input. I have been drawing for 2 years. Never had in training or knew what I was doing, though.

[Anonymous No.4867193]

>>4866896
Thanks for the feedback. I was more focused on trying to get the proportions and basic core anatomy right, once I'm comfortable with the core of the figure I'll focus more on the hands, head and feet.
>>4866956
Thanks for the feedback, sounds like I still have a long way to go.

[Anonymous No.4867194]

>>4867184
>joe weatherly
b-ok.cc

[Anonymous No.4867197]

>>4867159
This is pretty cool. You really drew this from imagination?

[Anonymous No.4867254]

[Anonymous No.4867284]

>draws_me_buck$
>falling for this meme
lol

[Anonymous No.4867361]

>>4867254
your linework is rough as hell and the tits could go for a redo but i love the overall style you're going for

[Anonymous No.4867415]

Why my drawing looks so flat and unappealing?

[Anonymous No.4867435]

What are some good tips to get better at line art?

[Anonymous No.4867459]

>>4867159
I saw this pose billion of times

[Anonymous No.4867467]

Will using the circle tool to draw heads impede my progress? I can't draw an even circle.

[Anonymous No.4867469]

[Anonymous No.4867471]

>>4867435
https://youtu.be/NBE-RTFkXDk Skip to 1:47

[Anonymous No.4867484]

Feet sizes are fucked, line quality and coloring is dreadful, but feel free to tear apart some specifics.

Was thinking of trying to actually try more than just a sketch, but seeing too many flaws and moving on to something else.

Trying to convince myself I'll stick with drawing this time, and trying out a shitty Intuos tablet which I'm not used to at all.

[Anonymous No.4867490]

>>4867467
Yes. For perspective exercises, drawing spheres and such, fuck it do the circle tool. Eventually you'll use the tool / a circle template for actual illustration.

For practice heads... you need to try to develop your hand, and your ability to correct disproportionate circles as best you can - this will help you succeed with line quality in general.

Don't worry too much about it, a perfectly drawn circle isn't really necessary to get a good head. Like everything else, you're always going to have to make corrections after the construction stage no matter what you do.

[Anonymous No.4867496]

>>4867490
I see. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4867521]

break my heart d/ic/ks

[Anonymous No.4867526]

>>4867521
>don't talk to me or my son

[Anonymous No.4867532]

>>4867521
I mean it looks good as a cartoon/stylized version but if you are going for realism , yes it looks like shit everything looks too "thick" and bloated.

[Anonymous No.4867540]

>>4867521
ur a homo

[Anonymous No.4867553]

>>4867521
ur a hetero

[Anonymous No.4867568]

>>4867415
Cause you're a ngmi

[Anonymous No.4867610]

here's a dumb question: how do you guys store large pages of work? I wanna keep pretty much everything I draw while learning and I got an awesome deal on some huge 14"x17" and 18"x24" (36x43 and 46x61 cm) sketch pads. The only problem is that they aren't spiral bound so the pages are going to fall out eventually. Can I get expanding folders that big or is there a better way to keep them so they don't get lost or damaged?

[Anonymous No.4867682]

>>4867415
The drawing itself is not bad but the contours don't seem to follow the hand quite like they should. Specifically, I think the tendons on the left and right need to curve slightly more around the underlying form, and the curve on the wrist band is a bit odd. The fingers look pretty good overall, but the ring finger is also bending sorta weird.

[Anonymous No.4867693]

>>4867521
Hehe, you manletified him.
I agree with >>4867532 anon. Not bad, but also depends on what you're aiming for.

[Anonymous No.4868037]

>>4865849
im not doing head studies myself but besides messing up the head direction on the last one along with the somewhat awkward perspective of the first one, these looks pretty good

[Anonymous No.4868161]

>>4863984
So is this saying that in order to draw good loomis heads consistently you should be decent at drawing 3d boxes and spheres first? Because my heads always come out warped

[Anonymous No.4869219]

working on this right now

[Anonymous No.4869878]

Going through Keys to Drawing right now but feel a bit lost, how do you tell when to move to another chapter?
And should I be repeating the assignments as practice?

[Anonymous No.4870030]

>>4865786
Sorry for the delay, I slept 20 hours today.

[Anonymous No.4870237]

fuckkkkk

[Anonymous No.4870353]

shitttttt