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4860002 No.4860002 [Reply] [Original]

Is photobashing other artist's work ever okay?
I thought this was different enough, different characters and colors.
And what about referencing, can compositions, concepts, and colors be accused of being too similar?
I'm honestly confused where the line gets drawn.
I saw a post where the artist referenced a few pieces, and still gets accused of plagiarism

>> No.4860008
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4860008

Why are you even asking this? Don't you enjoy drawing more?

>> No.4860036

>>4860002
Did they actually photobash the other persons artwork, or did they both photobash the same background photo into their respective artworks? If they actually took the other artist's work and photobashed it that definitely would be pretty scummy. Even if they edited and painted over it quite a bit it's still shitty to take someone else's work and pass it off as your own.

>> No.4860154
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4860154

I'm on the fence about the current Kaneblob drama.
Sure it's referenced, but there's enough differences and her style of coloring to make them her own.

>> No.4860193

Copyright is iconoclastic.
Make art with whatever tools you want.
Personally I would rather learn from someone else's idea than copy it wholesale, and I would discourage someone from copying while learning, but that doesn't invalidate that process itself.

>> No.4860420

>>4860154
these are just sharing a similar concept and you can't really tell someone "hey don't draw a sky with ballons, a dragon in water, and a girl sitting at a window during evening", some of it might be shameless but it's really just a concept borrowed by someone who is either inexperienced or uncreative

>> No.4860421

>>4860002
>I thought this was different enough, different characters and colors.
this one is not, the bg is literally the same

>> No.4860425

>>4860002
No rules only tools

>> No.4860432

>>4860425
Now that's what I'm Tolkien about.

>> No.4860435

>>4860425
pycreativew

>> No.4860456

>>4860435
Why? Not even that guy.

>> No.4860565

>>4860002
looks like both just used the same lame ps-filter on the same lame photo. no harm done if both images suck!

>> No.4860568

>>4860002
This isn’t what photobashing is.

>>4860154
The only ones of these I think are valid are the vertical ones of the girl standing below the moon simply because thumbnail wise they are pretty much the same. But even then it’s a reach, they are different, the pose, character design, color usage etc isn’t the same. I do think it’s probably copied but I just don’t think I agree with calling this out for theft because it’s incredibly possible that this could happen as a coincidence to any artist, even if I think in this case it probably isn’t.

The rest of them though are just conceptually similar and arent 1:1. The balloon and window ones especially are a joke, at best they are inspired but they are completely different images. The Princess Mononoke one as well, I’ve seen this thumbnail framing as fanart of that movie plenty of times (the pose itself isn’t in any way the same, this is a gigantic stretch considering she rides around in the movie like that and even official shots in the movie has close ups like that).

So yeah I can see why you’d be on the fence because to be honest I do think these are probably inspired by those pieces but they’re not heavily referenced or anything and are different enough that I think calling it theft isn’t right, I don’t think it’s fair to claim other people could own a concept of what are incredibly generic pieces. She should have been more careful though and changed it up more if she didn’t want to get caught out by people realising what images she used.

>> No.4860573

Only for learning purposes and you can't present it as your work.

>> No.4860574

I’d give you my answer, but BNA fans make me sick.

>> No.4860580
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>>4860568
Well, I take that back. I thought maybe they just used the same stock image for their background but it turns out she admitted that did (at least partially) photobash.

>> No.4860585

This isn't even photobashing, it's straight up stealing. Most professionals that photobash actually take their own photos.

>> No.4860586

>>4860002
Is there a way this would be ok? Let's say I'm really into the idea the artist was exploring, and I want to do my own rendition of it. I change some things, I take some original elements, and mix things around a bit. With proper credit, can they still get mad?

>> No.4860593

>>4860002
>Is photobashing other artist's work ever okay?
no, next question

>> No.4860655

>>4860154
In all these pictures the only thing that was copied was the idea of the paintings, but I don't see anything wrong with that, I mean sure it can be scummy but the results are different, and they didn't trace anything that I can tell.

>> No.4860662

>>4860002
both are photobashed

>> No.4860719

Why is there no info doc about copyright laws in the sticky? Or ref etiquette in general?
>>4860586
If you want to make money with your piece, the only way it would be ok is to ask the artist for permission and they grant it to you.
If there's no money involved, idk...
I guess ideally you'd still want to get permission, some people write on their page that they either don't allow any use of their images or they don't care.
So basically yes, they may get mad.

>> No.4860725

>>4860002
it's okay when mullins does it

>> No.4860726

>>4860719
The sticky is from so long ago. Back in the day the netiquette was that using references was never ok and that’s only changed in the past few years so I suppose that might be why.

>> No.4860730

>>4860726
By netiquette I do mean the internet as a whole. I don’t think this mentality ever leaked that far in to /ic/ itself but it was so prominent everywhere else I’m guessing it might be the reason why.

>> No.4860735

>https://twitter.com/aurich/status/1036782685333598208?lang=en
>>4860568
it's funny the lengths narcissists will go though to convince themselves someone is stealing from them instead of facing the truth that their ideas just aren't very original
>>4860586
literally it's okay if you get away with it.
there's plenty of stories of AAA studios directly lifting assests & designs from other popular games to photobash or paintover. bioware is one of the few that got caught purely through laziness and incompetence. it's the same thing with tracing.
>greg land traces= hack fraud
>boichi or drew struzan traces= what a heckin' masterino

imo what ilya does is way more offensive than tracing honestly. lifting compositions wholesale in the laziest possible way.

>> No.4860769

kane already apologised and acknowledged they made a mistake once. you didn't have to make a drama thread, move on.

>> No.4862274

>>4860769
I think it's not a one time mistake though? She's been called out for doing this before, e.g. https://www.deviantart.com/comments/1/474519583/3571171006 , https://www.deviantart.com/comments/1/367891854/3532522270 / https://www.deviantart.com/comments/1/367891854/3049705169 , and https://www.deviantart.com/kanekiru/art/Leap-to-a-New-Year-456017492 (she admits in the description that she referenced Rella's balloons piece)

>> No.4862395

>>4860769
Hi kaneblob.

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>>4860580
>>4860154
>kaneblob
wasnt this the girl who also fueled in the whole controversy about popular artist stealing hashtag from unpopular artist?
>she also follows jessica am
figured, birds of the same feather.

>> No.4862444

>>4860154
She's coping idea and coloring scheme
she's not a criminal but it does make her looks like an uncreative fool.

>> No.4862448

>>4860002
sure as long as you get away with it

>> No.4862460

>>4862436
>wasnt this the girl who also fueled in the whole controversy about popular artist stealing hashtag from unpopular artist?
She was, all western artists on twitter with more than 10k followers always have terrible opinions and end up saying retarded things. The fame really blows their self importance up.

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>>4860568
Re: balloons

>> No.4862616

>>4860154
Yeah the issue with this is that she's imaginatively bankrupt and is lifting subject matter and composition off of other artists, as well as colors for the most part. Its not as egregious as straight up tracing but it's still shitty behavior and I'm not fond of it. You can teach skill but you cant teach creativity and that really rings true with this bitch.

>> No.4862632
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>>4860154
Nothing technically wrong with any of that, but damn is it sad that someone would spend that much time getting gud at painting, and then at the end of it not having any sort of imagination at all to use it on.

>> No.4862643

>>4862632
It would be really funny if everyone on her Twitter started calling that out, just think of the existential dread it would stir up in her

>> No.4862649

>>4860036
If you can't tell from that side by side then it doesn't matter.

>> No.4862667

>>4862274
those are from when kane was in her teens.

>> No.4862668

>>4860036
That was definitely a photobashing of the other persons work. Play find the differences and look really closely at everything, you should start to see that there are more similarities than there should be and shit was straight up lifted from the other one.

>> No.4862744

>>4862632
the problem is that she started doing it since 2014 and still does it to this day. Really is a waste of skill.
so does this confirm that grinding fundies but not actually putting in the effort to make OC composition is a flaw?

>> No.4862866

>>4862604
I acknowledged that I thought they were clearly the source images but they were transformative enough to be new images and you can’t own a concept as generic as person standing below balloons floating in to the sky.
>I can see why you’d be on the fence because to be honest I do think these are probably inspired by those pieces but they’re not heavily referenced or anything and are different enough that I think calling it theft isn’t right, I don’t think it’s fair to claim other people could own a concept of what are incredibly generic pieces.

>> No.4862908

>>4860002
I'd say if you explicitly give credit to the artist everytime you post it it's ok.

>> No.4862946

>>4860002
>is [anything other than referencing] another artist's work okay?
no. new thread.

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>>4860002
The ironic thing is that Rei_17 was called out for "plagiarism" too a while ago. But it isn't well known to most people unless you're on chinese social media. Was this plagiarism or just a coincidence?, you decide

https://imgur.com/a/4O6Nxtv

>> No.4862994

>>4862966
I remember this. It was this situation that taught me that apparently she is notorious in the Chinese art community for being obsessed with people copying her. Seemingly she is well known to harass other artists all the time for stealing from her even for minor details that are total coincidences. I read someone say something like it’s a joke in that art community that if you draw something people will ask “which drawing of Rei’s did you steal for this one”. I actually kind of ignored this situation at first because of that.

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HOLY SHIT LMAO

>get hired by Pixiv x Studio Trigger collaboration
>paint over another artist's work
>??? profit

ballsy ngl

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>>4862994
Really goes against the myth that the "asian art community doesn't have drama". I think with japanese artists when the drama gets too much, they just delete their accounts.

>>4863028
Why would you paint over another popular artist's art for a commission so high profile that it will be seen by thousands of people? Someone will eventually notice the similarity. Even if she decided to "steal" the same concept, she could have just photobashed a picture of a random japanese street from pinterest or flickr.

Then she could have claimed implausibility to any art theft accusations. I thought these Asians were smarter than this.

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>>4862667
Not trying to drag her for past behavior (which also was nowhere near on the level of this BNA incident imo), just shocked that she thought this was still ok or that she wouldn’t get caught lmao

>> No.4863135

>>4862966
rei was a gigantic faggatron so I'm siding with kaneblob despite photobashing from rei

>> No.4863155

>>4862632
>that someone would spend that much time getting gud at painting, and then at the end of it not having any sort of imagination at all to use it on.
So basically /ic/ ?

>> No.4863581

>>4863071
Nips encourage copies for study, so not much drama going on for them, their dramas mostly revolve around fandom clashing and behavior misconducts. Chinese, korean, and SEA are very business minded with their art so they will fight over IP right.

>> No.4863635

>>4860002
Yes, it is okay
Leaving it absolutely recognizable and not credit the original artist is a dick move

>> No.4863710

>>4863028
>>4860580
lol, bitch not only copied but also profited from it, what the fuck

>> No.4863723

>>4863581
The thing is, most twitter nips are hobby artists. Meanwhile for korea and sea, drawing is oftenly a job so they tend to take it more personal. Cant blame sea for living in the third world, so they grew up with the survival merchant mentality.

>> No.4864124

>>4863155
Ideas > Skills

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>>4863028
>>4863710

how much is a job like this anyway,
being used for promo and official merch, a thousand?

>> No.4864389

>>4864374
During the last controversy, she bragged that corp has commissioned her 15 - 20k a piece or something. Its not that far fetch when a furry got his commision from a rando twitter with 5.6k

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>>4864374

>> No.4864568

>>4864435
Well fuck.
That's extra scummy. If she thought it's okay to use another artist's work for such a big commission this time, I'm wary of her past client work.

In all likelihood, she'll just lay low and then business as usual. I still see her merch in the pixiv store, so I don't think she even reached out to Pixiv or the original artist at this point.

>> No.4864631

>>4863130
"the person I'm ripping off isn't improving fast enough" ok wtf

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4866128

>>4860002
>>4860036
"wew"

>> No.4866153

>>4860002
>Is photobashing other artist's work ever okay?

Photobash them to spite them

>> No.4866155

>>4866128
I don't understand how you can even be this lazy.

>> No.4866160

>>4860154
imagine having a high level of skill, but also aphantasia

>> No.4866171

>>4860154
>all are inferior to originals
heh

>> No.4866258

>>4860154
>3rd image down on the right
This looks visually distinct from Rella, yet I cannot find it anywhere.

>> No.4866268

>>4866258
https://kaneblob.wixsite.com/kane/commissions?lightbox=dataItem-jmbd0ll02 ?

>> No.4866274

>>4866268
Thank you so much. Doesn't look nearly as good as it does in thumbnail.

>> No.4866280

>>4866128
I gotta be honest I thought it was just a photobash of the same photo until I saw this.

>> No.4867148

This made me be afraid of drawing, what if I draw something that looks like another artist's work just by coincidence? I am /beg/ tier so I can do simple poses, nothing really interesting. I am afraid to draw and I'm ngmi if I keep thinking like this.

>> No.4867165

>>4867148
what if you draw something

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>>4862966
Fun story, I asked my mum how all the other Chinese artists were so good and she said that no Chinese artist would ever be able to draw with references and that grinding out studies will make you good but also soulless. So yeah, I'm pretty sure that all the good artists are using references or know 3D so they can generate their own refs

>> No.4867271

>>4866160
It's not aphantasia, it's just the higher level up the skill ladder you go the more you REQUIRE references or 3D and the more your pool of potential references shrinks (because the better you get, the fewer people who rival you)

>> No.4867273

>>4867148
It's not noticeable until you get to /int/ tier at least and everyone has to have references, you just have to get good at hiding your influences and never stream yourself drawing with everyone else's work on the side

>> No.4867748

>>4864435
Wow, what a fucking asshole.

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>>4864374
I wonder what’s going to happen with the art books if they’ve already been printed? Kane is still listed as an artist

https://pixiv.booth.pm/items/2333302

>> No.4868158

>>4866128
I like how original implies hexagonal building in the background while photobasher just copypasted two boxes inside of it

>> No.4868924

>>4862460
I know some that are pretty red-pilled IRL, but they'd never say anything on twitter cause 90% of their mutuals and followers would crucify them for it.

>> No.4868939

>>4864389
>>4864435
15k is way beyond what most Anime related corporations would pay. 2k per piece is pretty standard, you can probably negotiate for more if you're more popular and the company is big.

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>>4862632
>hey that looks fun to draw
>only ever do this
feels like i'm inexorably moving down that path.

>> No.4869125

>>4860002
everything is a remix

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The badge set with Kaneblob's art has been removed from the Pixiv store, and she's also no longer mentioned in the art book

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http://weibointl.api.weibo.com/share/172579320.html?weibo_id=4549778714930363

Post from Rei's weibo.
Looks like Rei handled it professionally this time, instead of inciting her fans.
Really wasteful though. Props to Pixiv for doing the right thing, even though the exhibition was only days away.
Shame on Kaneblob, for royally shitting up a golden opportunity like this.
Hope they learn from this.

>> No.4870521

>>4870500
She didn't need it up
She handled it like a jew
Pro
She'll keep stealing just being more careful to not be caught

>> No.4870863

>>4870521
>>4870521
If she's more careful I consider that a good thing.
It means her 'influences' won't be so singular or blatant, which was the issue.

>> No.4871164

>>4870521
>no twitter drama so far
well I think it's done pretty ok, atleast they didn't made it into a soap opera like Noah again.

>> No.4871168

>>4870521
does that mean Kane is blacklisted now?

>> No.4871176

>>4866128
how did she get away with this?

>> No.4871186

>>4871176
She didn't as evidenced by >>4870451 and >>4870500

>> No.4871216

>>4860154
I don't really see what the big deal is. She plagiarized compositions and color palettes,but that's all. Nothing is traced. They're all substantially different from the influence of their source.

You can't lay claim to the general feel of an image. I don't see anything 'stolen' here that isn't fair game.

>> No.4871276

>>4866128
>>4870500
It still makes no sense that Kane thought she would be able to photobash a piece from a popular artist with over 300 thousand followers and NONE of popular artist's fans would discover it. I thought chinks would be higher iq than this. Now all the printed art books had to be destroyed and reprinted again.

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>>4871164
Presumably she’ll make a post about this at some point?

>> No.4871300

>>4871279
I doubt it, it's been dealt with privately and is a private matter.
She likely responded with that to mollify the immediate public reaction

>> No.4871304

>>4870451
>>4870500
This is the correct response from Pixiv, and the only response that matters. Their integrity is more valuable than the cost of a second print run, and sends a message to all future participants.

>> No.4871312

>>4871279
probably preparing a 10 pages monologue at this moment.

>> No.4871314

Honestly, well played, Kane
+ 18000 followers from posting plagiarized art
vs
- 500 from the call out, which wasn't wide reaching

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>>4871314

>> No.4871323

>>4871279
Kek the artist who called kane out ended up getting a callout post made about them directly afterwards after bragging about calling kane out and lost more than double the amount of followers that kane did

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>>4871314
to be frank she's in an elite twitter clique, she joined their fray when she was virtual signaling with them during those past dramas. It makes sense that they become dead quiet when it's her turn to be on the guillotine. If they start defending her right after the cold solid proof is there in front of them, it'll make them look like two faces pigs. Instead they turn around and pretend that's nothing is happening.
If it was a smaller artist, the tweet will escalate even higher with their clique retweeting each back and forth, because there's no repercussion from doing so.
It took another big artist to out her and get that tweet to 1k+, but when a smaller artist called her out first, no one reacted to it.

>> No.4871348

>>4871323
>elite twitter clique
could you elaborate on that?
do you mean a group of popular twitter artists?

>> No.4871369

>>4871348
or something like that, it's pretty normal that they have a discord community among them.
I know Juby, that devil candy comic artist, that black anime artist etc have a discord where they share skill among themselves. I think they even hosted a group draw together live stream last month, and we got a peek of their discord window or something.

>> No.4871379

>>4871369
Are Kane and Juby friends? https://twitter.com/CutTimeComic/status/1304624344010637312

>> No.4871385

>>4871379
I dont think so, Kane is probably in the another group. Juby hang out with other comic artist and Anime expo group. I find Kane converse with the SEA artists group more often.

>> No.4871386
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is Plagiarism a common thing out in Japan?
they seem weirdly calm at the idea of pick-pocketing other creations if it meant making their own shit look and sound better. contrasts pretty heavily with the West where even a chord or a colour is practically Copyright protected to stop people from using it.

>> No.4871388

>>4871216
you want to rethink that? >>4866128

>> No.4871390

>>4871386
>they seem weirdly calm at the idea of pick-pocketing other creations if it meant making their own shit look and sound better.
It's sort of the opposite. Manga artists have had their books destroyed and careers ended after being outed as tracers, and that's after being forced to issue a public apology. But it depends on what's traced and how much.

>> No.4871392

>>4871386
it's pretty harsh and frown upon, see the latest jump drama with that one "manga"
Even FGO got the plagiarism hammer before.
This plagiarism is no different because it is literally the exact copy.
But when it comes to taking inspiration or motif, they are more forgiveful than the west. From experience

>> No.4871397

>>4871390
wasn't that animation studio that burned down in Kyoto or somewhere in Japan caused by an artist that suspected the company of stealing his work? guess i was a bit off the mark there..

>>4871392
>taking inspiration or motifs, they are more forgiving than the west

and what would any artist in Japan need to do to avoid being under fire for being suspected of plagiarising, in comparison to the West? sounds like an interesting difference.
for example, how does the creative philosophy work when they're inventing something new? is there some kind of strict code or artistic unwritten rule of some kind?

>> No.4871406

>>4871386
Don't you mean the Chinese? The Chinese are absolutely fucking notorious for stealing and copying anything and everything they possibly can.

>> No.4871413

>>4871406
I know the Chinese are worse, but they aren't part of the conversation. I'm more curious to see how I can be more polite about my inspirations so I can reference without getting harassed online

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>>4871397
There are many example but the easiest one is the Seven deadly sin. The author's borrowed his style from Toriyama heavily, but most reader don't really care because it's not exactly the same, it just have the spirit of Toriyama style. Same goes for Ghibli, many copied its style, but doesn't stress pass the boundary of 1/1 design.
Manga encourage copies the spirit of the art, but not the technical composition of the art. However this copyright can varies depend on the topic, videos game design, industrial mechanic etc, have their own copyright boundary, because they are tangible component of making the product. Art is a bit more flexible, because even if you can capture the style of something, it's still isn't the exact same thing spirit. Duplication of the exact form of the art however is an attempt of stealing identity.

>> No.4871421

>>4871418
trespass*

>> No.4871433

>>4871418
>Manga encourages copying the spirit of the art, but not the technical composition of the art.

Interesting point, I think I can understand that.
One thing I'm curious about is what the Japanese would consider the "spirit" of the art. I think a lot of people in the West seem to muddle technicalities with spirit, but it sounds like Japan has an idea of how it is differentiated.
Is it possible for someone to get a description of their concept of the "spirit" of the art means in layman terms? It'd be helpful to getting a broader understanding to critique art in a more constructive manner for improving its quality. Do you have any sources or references that I could read to get a better understanding of those Japanese definitions?

>> No.4871438

>>4871433
it's called SOUL

>> No.4871441

>>4871438
I know what SOUL is
But it seems like Japan has an understanding of the literary definitions of SOUL better than the West. I'd be really interested how their culture looks at it.

>> No.4871448

>>4871433
I'm pretty sure that just means that they took inspiration from other artists's styles to develop their own, instead of just straight up copying them 1:1.

>> No.4871451

>>4871448
True. But I wonder if the culture of inspiration works differently in Japan compared to the west in smaller details. Considering their geography and history, do they have an outlook on style and sacred values that makes them look for inspiration in a different manner, and with a different kind of respect?

>> No.4871480

>>4871451
As far as I know, no not really.

>> No.4871556

>>4871433
There was a video from DokiDokimanga youtube (I forgot which) that talked about copying manga panels to get the feel of the composition. They didn't redo the pages, but instead they broke it down to simply shape enough to understand the process.
>culture of inspiration works differently in Japan compared to the west in smaller details
Copying for study value is the same anywhere, but the degree of punishment for copyright is handled varies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMjhJuUKRto&t=768s
the guy who explain using other manga for storyboarding, and inspiration. Emulating a style in essence is the same anywhere, just not being a mirror image of the original.

>> No.4871810

>>4871397
>wasn't that animation studio that burned down in Kyoto or somewhere in Japan caused by an artist that suspected the company of stealing his work? guess i was a bit off the mark there..
No, the guy was your average lunatic and decided that they had stolen his story idea. We’ll know more when the court case happens (they haven’t shared that many details of everything yet) but as far as I can recall he was not involved at the company or even the industry at all, nor was he an artist. Just got it in to his head they were personally attacking him and taunting him by stealing his idea or some shit.

>> No.4871846

>>4871397
>>4871810
Decided to look in to the specifics a bit further;
Seemingly he had sent them a novel for some contest or something and it failed to pass the first round of the contest. He decided that one of their series that came afterwards had a scene that was ripped off from his novel. Apparently it was just a completely generic anime highschool scene that could have been in any anime according to people with access to it.

>> No.4872233

isn't Kane the girl who said she doesn't take commission less than $500?
https://twitter.com/Kaneblob/status/1277290900901605377

>> No.4874157

>>4866128
holy shit, what the fuck

>> No.4874419

>>4871314
>https://twitter.com/CutTimeComic/status/1304624344010637312
Happens every time man, like with Kronprinz and Kuno. Copy/plagiarize/shittalk others to gain popularity. The callouts are never widespread enough to do damage.

>> No.4874620

>>4871369
>Juby
Oh god that's an old artist I always looked up to. She was more known as Joodlez then though.

>> No.4874643

>>4874620
I used to like her until she stopped bothering with her comic, breaking all sort of promise she made initially. Now turn it into a full time merch artist.

>> No.4874664

Is kaneblob cute?

>> No.4874760

>>4874664
No

>> No.4874810

>>4867264
Have the tard wrangler bring you back to the special zone

>> No.4874849

>>4874664
>blob
Take a guess

>> No.4874952

>>4862632
I struggle to make art pieces that are not a scene from story 8deas I have. After starting a webcloic I draw more often than I have in years because I actually have ideas for what to draw now and a goal in mind. My imagination well is dry when it comes to pretty for the sake of pretty art.

>> No.4874982
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>>4860154
So the key to making it is stealing other people's work, and modifying it to your artstyle?

>> No.4874992

>>4862649
>If you can't tell from that side by side then it doesn't matter.
Read the post you're replying to one more time, you seem to not have understood it.

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>>4874982
>>4874982
nothing personal kid, it's only business.