Alternative Art/Stylization General

[Anonymous No.4854492]

Previous >>4843664


What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
Hitokaku Index
>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #art
>yoshikadu2011 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUx5dpO6d5gQ4KWNPc24CKw
FellowBro's Book Collection
>http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
Tutorial & Reference Collection
>http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
Japanese Tutorials & Documentary
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317 (0033)
>http://iradukai.com/
References
>http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos2.html
>http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
>http://senshistock.com/sketch/

[Anonymous No.4854505]

wtf bros..

why

[Anonymous No.4854511]

>>4854505
literally who or what?

[Anonymous No.4854513]

>>4854511
It's the op. It's funny because the guy shilled himself literally everywhere.

[Anonymous No.4854514]

>>4854505
wtf he wasn't even a lolifag

[Anonymous No.4854574]

>>4854505
Jay is quiting? lol, what a pussy, I was hoping for him to grow as an artists and as a person and actually take criticism, but ok

[Anonymous No.4854669]

how do I soul???

[Anonymous No.4854672]

>>4854505
Oh no, maybe he's dealing with something? Hope he isn't planning to off himself or something

[Anonymous No.4854722]

>>4854669
whoa you actually did a drawing i like. gj anon.

more variety & rhythm in the bg hatching will help a lot, franklin booth is worth studying

[Anonymous No.4854748]

>>4854505

Why do so many artists suddenly up and quit out of literally nowhere, even the ones who don't draw anything remotely controversial or taboo? I don't get it, I really don't.

[Anonymous No.4854770]

>>4854669
that's pretty soulful desu

[Anonymous No.4854802]

>>4854669
draw for fun in between studies. i like this, though

>>4854505
weird. his art wasn't really to my taste, but i admired his work ethic. hate to see it when established artists have to nuke everything for w/e reason

[Anonymous No.4854860]

>>4854505
damn who within whitebox studio will step in as his replacement

[Anonymous No.4854864]

>>4854860
In the eternal wip spamming circle
Firez replaced by whitebox
Whitebox replaced by asukafag
Asukafag replaced by ???

[Anonymous No.4854878]

>>4854505
I hope he is doing alright.

[Anonymous No.4854896]

[Anonymous No.4854901]

i think i'm gonna get aseprite as soon as it goes on sale

[Anonymous No.4854905]

>>4854669
this is really good dude, much better then most stuff i see on the internet, it's refreshing really

[Anonymous No.4854928]

>>4854669
Queen did well

[Anonymous No.4854959]

[Anonymous No.4855098]

>>4854505
Didn't he was celebrating in these threads that he got a job at some animation studio like a year ago but had nothing but wips and turntables? Lmao

[Anonymous No.4855102]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4855108]

>>4855102
cute

[Anonymous No.4855125]

>>4855102
>lowest angle possible
>skirt is completely flat

[Anonymous No.4855133]

>>4855125
grrr where is my upskirt action?!

[Anonymous No.4855134]

>>4855125
>lowest angle possible
What are you talking about that is like 10° lower than a frontal camera

[Anonymous No.4855135]

>>4855102
it's like scott pilgrim style without any soul

[Anonymous No.4855141]

>>4855102
this is really cute anon, gj

>>4855135
wrong.

[Anonymous No.4855148]

>>4854505
>Obnoxious WIP-spamming moralfag who never listened to any advice is gone and this is supposed to be a bad thing
Good riddance

[Anonymous No.4855169]

i have no idea how to handle the dress. advice is really appreciated
>>4854959
amazing

[Anonymous No.4855170]

>>4854802
This looks like what Vsock has been doin recently. Cute

[Anonymous No.4855174]

>>4854802
oshit didn't see this. i like it very much

[Anonymous No.4855244]

>>4854901
i miss chadventure time

[Anonymous No.4855397]

[Anonymous No.4855445]

>>4855397
Something about this picture is so unsettling. I think its your weird anatomy and placement of facial features

[Anonymous No.4855486]

>>4854505
Wow, plot twist. Hope he didn't have a mental breakdown or something.

[Anonymous No.4855496]

Hey guys, how goes it?

[Anonymous No.4855497]

>>4855445
ok i will kill myself now

[Anonymous No.4855499]

>>4855497
drama queen

[Anonymous No.4855537]

>>4854505
>>4854492
So whitebox made a thread with his own art and posted his own tweet to max out on his (You)s

[Anonymous No.4855578]

>>4855496
Get up and do the poses you draw - it's not only about whether a pose is possible but whether it's actually natural or not. Also, for the love of god study faces.
>>4855397
The mother is staring directly at the viewer while maintaining a neutral expression despite her son playing and interacting with her. The son on the other hand is seemingly very excited to blankly stare into space. It'd be more natural if they were looking at each other. The neck/shoulder area on the mother also needs some reworking. I'd just keep these points in mind while moving onto the next piece, though.

[Anonymous No.4855590]

>>4855578
>It'd be more natural if they were looking at each other.
wasnt really going for a genre scene, i wanted to mimic, like, a 18/19th century portrait...
this was my ref

[Anonymous No.4855621]

>>4855590
The son should still be looking the mother (like in the painting.) If you want the mother to stare at the viewer, pay attention to the posture of the neck and the slight tilt of the head in the painting. The painting's mother is done in a way where the neck and tilt of the head implies she looked up from her son to the viewer, while your's is stiffer and carries tension (and is also likely why the other anon commented it felt unsettling.)

[Anonymous No.4855627]

>>4855621
ohhh i see. thank you, very helpful insight!!

[Anonymous No.4855638]

>>4855578
I'm sorry how is that pose not possible in what is wrong with the face? As far as I'm concerned that's commercial art quality.

[Anonymous No.4855694]

>>4855169
Check out this book, lots of examples of womens fashion

[Anonymous No.4855761]

>>4855694
and here are the download for that book and more https://resourcesblogorg.wordpress.com/ i'd love to see more anons practicing clothing

[Anonymous No.4855775]

>>4855761
>i'd love to see more anons practicing clothing
why

[Anonymous No.4855779]

>>4855775
Cuz clothing can be hard for a lot of people to wrap their heads around, but drawing it well it looks super good.

[Anonymous No.4855789]

>>4854505
did he got black lives mattered?

[Anonymous No.4855792]

>>4855694
>Check out this book, lots of examples of womens fashion
>doesn't provide link
you had one job anon.

[Anonymous No.4855796]

>>4855170
hey thats me

[Anonymous No.4855799]

>>4855775
why not

[Anonymous No.4855896]

>>4855799
Not practicing clothing is ngmi.

[Anonymous No.4855930]

>>4855102
CUTE

[Anonymous No.4855953]

[Anonymous No.4856023]

>>4855638
Ok please read his post properly. He said it’s possible but looks unnatural and awkward. Yeah the rendering looks decent for the most part but that face is definitely ugly as hell

[Anonymous No.4856027]

[Anonymous No.4856057]

ez eye practice

[Anonymous No.4856103]

>>4856027
Kill it with fire!

[Anonymous No.4856204]

>>4856057
right eye feels a bit too far to the right, but the eyes themselves are pretty appealing, so at least that's good!

[Anonymous No.4856234]

>>4854901
>>4854896
what a qt

[Anonymous No.4856441]

>>4854864
>Firez
Anyone got a mega of their stuff?

[Anonymous No.4856495]

>>4855397
this would be so charming if you added a background. Maybe a pretty garden?

[Anonymous No.4856655]

>>4856495
incomplete, but youre right this does make it look better and more like a portrait. made minor adjustments to the figures aswell

ok. not spending anymore time on this shit, moving on

[Anonymous No.4856668]

>>4856655
>>4855397
The primary issue is the anatomy. The girl's face, neck, and trapezius in particular are completely retarded. On another layer, try drawing the skeleton and you will see what I mean.

[Anonymous No.4856692]

>>4856668
yes well... i am still learning. i will keep this in mind for my next drawings
dont want to spend so much time on one thing

[Anonymous No.4856711]

>>4856692
There is no need to try to justify your mistake. You made a mistake, someone pointed out the mistake. Learn from it and move on; no one is keeping score, you aren't being graded.

[Anonymous No.4856712]

>>4856655
So cute! Blog?

[Anonymous No.4856793]

>>4854492
What should I really be focusing on as far as learning and fundamentals when what I mainly want to draw are surreal creatures/monsters?

[Anonymous No.4856813]

How can I make this look more like Chris Cornell? I'm mainly focused on the face right now, don't mind the messy hair. This is based on a younger pic I'll post in a reply.

[Anonymous No.4856815]

>>4856813

[Anonymous No.4856946]

Just finished it. Woulda posted in /beg/ but they don't welcome cartoons there

[Anonymous No.4856969]

>>4854574
Sounds like he is killing himself to me, but I never heard of the guy.

[Anonymous No.4856989]

>>4856813
What kind of answer would you like? I don't really understand the question. How can you? You can look closer and observe better. While doing those things you can compare the relative distance between features. You can also spend longer on your image. Attempt it multiple times. Find a better resolution image.

There is no secret "how", the answer is right infront of you.

[Anonymous No.4857012]

>>4854722
>>4854770
>>4854802
>>4854905
>>4854928
Thank you! Im surprised you didn't hate it desu. Might attempt to paint it on a big canvas with acrylics to see how it would turn out.

Here's a doodle I made today:)

[Anonymous No.4857022]

Brushing up on my vfx skills. Messy.

[Anonymous No.4857031]

>>4856969
No need to be so drastic, plenty of people just lose the drive and close their account.

[Anonymous No.4857051]

>>4856946
I would say the nose and "muzzle" protrudes a bit too much, she's beginning to develop a snout. Also, I really struggle to tell what's going on below the neck here, is she crossing her arms? Either way it doesn't look like you really considered 3D form or anatomy on it. If it is crossed arms, then it looks like her arms spring directly from the collarbone, and the form of her breast doesn't make sense at all.

It's cool though anon, I really dig the gameboy style and except for the minor muzzle problem, I think the face looks pretty good. Ear might also be a bit large though.

[Anonymous No.4857059]

>>4857022
Are these from reference or imagination?

[Anonymous No.4857074]

>>4857059
No ref. Made up. That's why I'm posting for feedback. I'm the weakest with shapes so maybe someone could give me pointers on that.

[Anonymous No.4857110]

>>4857074
Overall I think they're pretty strong, and you seem to have a good grasp on these kinds of effects.
There are a couple of things about the explosion I want to point out though.
An explosion like this goes through different stages in sequence. First there's the flash of light, then the fireball, then the rapidly rising smoke cloud, then the blast wave. In your image the fireball, smoke cloud, and blast wave appear to be occuring simultaneously. Now, given that these are still images and not frames of an animation, it's okay to fudge it a bit, but just be aware of how it would look in reality so you can make more informed decisions when fudging.
But aside from that, I think the skittering rocks at the bottom interfere with the initial energy of the blast from a graphic standpoint. The overall gesture of the explosion should be a kind of starburst pattern, so the secondary motion on the bouncing breaks that up.
Also, there are a couple of spots where the planes seem to intersect one another, which hurts the 3-dimensionality of it, so be careful of that.

[Anonymous No.4857125]

>>4856793
All of the normal fundamentals of drawing, plus animal anatomy. Afterward you just apply those fundamentals while studying the psychology and anthropology of fear, uncanniness, and dream-like imagery and logic.

[Anonymous No.4857171]

>>4854492
>>4854505
Anyone check on whitebox? Is he ok? He seemed to have some narcissistic traits and ego death could be mind shattering to a narcissist.

[Anonymous No.4857174]

[Anonymous No.4857210]

>>4857171
Did all the bullying get to him?

[Anonymous No.4857219]

>>4856793
Use the rules of anatomy as a framework for what you SHOULDN'T do.

[Anonymous No.4857223]

What am I missing here /ic/? Did I overdraw the shadows / should have tried to keep it simpler?

[Anonymous No.4857224]

what do you guys think about this face

[Anonymous No.4857226]

>>4857219
Not really what you shouldn't do, but you do need to manipulate them. To do that, you need to know how to do it right first.

[Anonymous No.4857229]

>>4857224
Stop.

[Anonymous No.4857243]

>>4857224
stop asking this retarded question.

[Anonymous No.4857244]

>>4857224
Fuck off, you even have your own thread.

[Anonymous No.4857259]

Guys, can you help please
Is there any way to make ZoomIn/Out shortcuts in CSP simular to PS one
Like pressing Z and dragging stilus on tablet

[Anonymous No.4857262]

>>4857012
This is pretty nice as well, a lot more pleasant to look at than your digital stuff. Your coloring tends to look very muddy and washed out and that drags down the quality of your artwork. Doing some traditional painting sounds like a great idea - that often helps people who have issues with color and value. Try doing some studies or color mixing exercises in acrylic as well, you'd really benefit from that.

You could also try doing some pieces with linework only. Obviously avoiding color isn't a good long term solution and you should learn to paint properly too, but seeing this makes me think your style could look quite elegant in black and white, assuming good linework.

[Anonymous No.4857312]

>>4857259
CTRL+Spacebar

[Anonymous No.4857322]

>>4857210
Probably just the reality that he wasn’t as good as he thought he was.

[Anonymous No.4857323]

>>4857262
You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Anonymous No.4857334]

>>4857259
learn about modifier keys
believe me, keyboard customisation is INFINITELY better in CSP compared to PS imo

[Anonymous No.4857338]

>>4857323
Do you though?

[Anonymous No.4857339]

>>4857338
Not that guy but >>4857262 reads like a /beg/ larping

[Anonymous No.4857349]

>>4856813
use the photo ref over your image to landmark features. I noticed the forehead you drew is much too low and round. Eyes and lips off too. you made him look like a woman.

[Anonymous No.4857353]

>>4857349
Overlay to check but landmark features by measuring otherwise you’re cucking yourself.

[Anonymous No.4857355]

>>4857051
Thanks for the tips, anon. I struggle with faces from a sideview, so I'll keep in mind your critique there. I know I shouldn't be making excuses but I sort of rushed the torso without thinking about it, but I appreciate your advice on the form, will definitely put it to use next time.

[Anonymous No.4857473]

>>4857338
Do I know what you are talking about? Not, it's gibberish.

[Anonymous No.4857985]

>>4857174
cute

[Anonymous No.4858004]

[Anonymous No.4858040]

>>4854901
>>4854896
Really nice to see you posting again man. Looks like a lot of refinement has gone into your stuff.

>>4854669
This is very nice. Did you consciously change your face proportions or is it a different character?

>>4855496
Based solely on your subject matter anon I hope you keep going and become a great artist.

Like the others guys said the face could use work. Strike the pose you want to draw yourself and take a picture of it. Use that as ref. Not for the structure or anatomy necessarily but to get an idea of the general flow of the pose.

>>4856027
>>4855953
>>4857012
A Cutes!

[Anonymous No.4858170]

Is this better you bunch of bullies?

[Anonymous No.4858175]

>>4858170
Mirror your drawing and take a good look at the face

[Anonymous No.4858178]

>>4858170
The only people I ever hear call anyone "bullies" unironically are children and adults with the mentality of children.

[Anonymous No.4858181]

>>4858178
Because no one can ever be humorous? I was just kidding anon.

[Anonymous No.4858187]

>>4858170
Bit better, but there's no point mulling over every piece. You're rendering is solid (albeit coom art rendering) but you just need to spend some time practicing gesture and faces. Best of luck to you, anon. Just want to point out the eyes lack direction though - for this kind of pose it'd make most sense for him to stare at the viewer.

[Anonymous No.4858189]

>>4858170
The head is much too small.

[Anonymous No.4858196]

>>4858187
>coom art rendering

[Anonymous No.4858202]

>>4858181
And I'm just saying.
BTW, that's a lot of folds. Does Astolfo not have an iron on hand?

[Anonymous No.4858238]

>>4857223
You are missing volume. Perspective is not consistent enough, shadows are too light, lines are wobbly, building look like cardboard cutouts.

[Anonymous No.4858250]

>>4858170
the face is literally deflated, can you see?

[Anonymous No.4858274]

>>4858250
I raised the nose and mouth up and it looks better ty.

[Anonymous No.4858275]

>>4858170
You should work on you head construction and faces in general. I’d also suggest making the eye highlights easier to see. The shirt wrinkles are rendered well but they don’t fit the direction of the fabric, it looks like the shirt is rolled up at the bottom or something. The pose is kind of awkward but it’s not horrible or anything, I can see what you were going for.

[Anonymous No.4858276]

[Anonymous No.4858279]

>>4858275
Also forgot to add, but hiding the braid behind him feels kind of lazy and makes him as a character less recognizable, so if you can it’s better to incorporate it I think.

[Anonymous No.4858292]

>>4858276
same

[Anonymous No.4858295]

>>4858202
Not him but, do people still use irons?

[Anonymous No.4858296]

>>4858238
I think you're spot on. I was having difficulty putting words to the shortcomings. Would making the shadows heavier help suggest volume?

I'm personally content with the lines though.

[Anonymous No.4858308]

>>4858275
I am having big problems with the Loomis method specifically where to place the chin and I think it's a gesture issue. That initially I'm not putting the gesture down correctly. I'm speaking of my studies of course I have been doing them all day before I even posted. Its consistent.

[Anonymous No.4858316]

>>4858308
Not him but try read hamptons book, Design and Invention. It helped me understand it a bit better.

So did Rob Marzullo's vids on it. I dont know if he's any good but those vids did help me understand the method.

Take this with salt though because i'm /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4858375]

[Anonymous No.4858378]

>>4858375
I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.4858379]

>>4858375
you're becoming too powerful fisher

[Anonymous No.4858400]

>>4858375
Me to the left, off-frame.

[Anonymous No.4858429]

>>4854492
Doing a poster to celebrate 1 year anniversary of my first graphic novel. A bit self-congratulatory, but why not?
>>4854505
That's really concerning. Any news on this? It's so sudden. Hope everything's okay.
>>4856655
Cute, bit it's a bit rigid. I do see the aesthetic that you were going for.
>>4857022
I like it. Really energetic. What's your approach to vfx?
>>4857223
I think you would benefit from a starker contrast in your values. Extremes of darks and lights will help things pop out.

[Anonymous No.4858475]

>>4858375
nice

[Anonymous No.4858517]

comfy sweater

[Anonymous No.4858532]

>>4858375
why would you choose that gross colour

[Anonymous No.4858784]

How do you stop getting bored of doing backgrounds? pic related, my most recent pic. Also, what are good websites for posting stuff on?

[Anonymous No.4858791]

Begs need to be exiled from these threads

[Anonymous No.4858795]

>>4858784
>How do you stop getting bored of doing backgrounds?
learning to do them would be a good start
begin with perspective

[Anonymous No.4858802]

>>4858791
Gonna have to agree with this.
I'm no elitist, but you don't have an "alternative style" if you can't fucking draw.

[Anonymous No.4858865]

>>4858475
cute poster

[Anonymous No.4858870]

haven't posted in a while.

[Anonymous No.4858909]

[Anonymous No.4858973]

[Anonymous No.4858977]

Working on a redo of a veeeeeery old drawing.

[Anonymous No.4858985]

>>4858870
This is great. I just love it.

>>4858375
Fisher you little bitch what's your new social.

[Anonymous No.4859004]

>>4858973
blog?

[Anonymous No.4859027]

My new superhero OC posing in front of his house.

[Anonymous No.4859071]

[Anonymous No.4859082]

>>4859027
Bulge

[Anonymous No.4859213]

>>4858985
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4859229]

>>4859004

[Anonymous No.4859263]

>>4858977
>4859004
your style is gonna be really nice once you figure out how to make faces that aren't horrifying

[Anonymous No.4859265]

>>4858296
It will. But the problem is you are lacking a lot of details that would add volume. See your windows, you need a little diagonal shadows on the sides to suggest depth - they look painted on. The shadow on the tree from the pillar is straight which will never happen if the tree has volume - the shadow will go in a wavy zigzag and also will be scratchy due to leaves breaking it on the border. Monster lacks shadows between plates and if those black things are supposed to be holes they don't look like it. And a lot of other stuff like this.

[Anonymous No.4859268]

>>4859071
This is nice, though both guns don't line up properly with the arms/hands, especially the shotty.

[Anonymous No.4859269]

>>4858977
the appeal of your old style + dynamism of current style and you got a nice stew going

[Anonymous No.4859273]

vehicle studies

[Anonymous No.4859289]

the light reflections are completely fucked but fuck it we ball

[Anonymous No.4859321]

Today is a dog kind of day:)

>>4857262
Thanks. I do agree that my coloring is kinda muddy and washed out(thats what I get for drawing on a laptop haha) >>4858040
Thank you! Also yes to both I guess. It's not a character I've drawn before but I did make a conscious effort to make the face a little more appealing.

[Anonymous No.4859324]

Bayo sketch

[Anonymous No.4859329]

>>4858429
Continuation.

[Anonymous No.4859348]

>>4859263
I want to draw faces with actual detail on them tho, not neotenistic, pastel-toned, oriental demons.

[Anonymous No.4859349]

>>4859329
Looks like a coloring book. If you’re not going to render over the linework or if you don’t have a very specific coloring technique in mind recommend varying line weight more within the strokes themselves and seeing where you can simplify. Think about each stroke as mileage and the viewer’s eyes as a runner, they need rest areas. Again good coloring can aid this but as it is, it’s tiring to look at.

[Anonymous No.4859351]

shit I wont finish

[Anonymous No.4859380]

>>4859349
This isn't finished. I usually draw in a "hard shadowed" style for when it's just linework or to be cel-shaded.
I'm planning on doing a detailed painting over this one, so I held back on my usual hard shadows so that it doesn't clash with the colored shading later.

[Anonymous No.4859485]

>>4858870
great colors, broski

[Anonymous No.4859725]

>>4858004
best thing in this thread has no replies :(
got any media my guy?

[Anonymous No.4859746]

>>4859351
I REALY like the face, everything else idk

[Anonymous No.4859758]

>>4859725
thanks. ofc, when I make coomart I get them
Ig: @baylego

[Anonymous No.4859763]

>>4859348
not all details are equal honestly. appeal is all about understanding how much you need. even if you look at chris sanders or inoue or miura, as deatailed as they get, they know when to hold back too

[Anonymous No.4859765]

>>4859725
It’s cuz it’s mid at best and not really /alt/

[Anonymous No.4859796]

>>4859329
Feet,nose,chin and hands look bad

[Anonymous No.4859805]

>>4859763
Don't fucking lie to me, I know that this is what you want for my future.

I do get and agree with you to a certain extent though. They are visually appealing to me though, but maybe a more reducedstyle is something I'll slide into over time.

[Anonymous No.4859824]

>>4859796
I appreciate the feedback.
Could you please elaborate?

Just saying it looks bad doesn't really give me any direction.

[Anonymous No.4859858]

>>4859824
Not that guy but her left fingertips are fat and the palm area the form doesn’t match actual anatomy. Her right hand the emphasis on her tendons and knuckles make it look manly. Her feet don’t know what kind of shoe that’s supposed to be but there’s no sole. Maybe that’s the intent but the bigger problem is there doesn’t seem to be any consideration to the form of the foot inside. Her face, I’m not sure if she’s supposed to be kind of puggish or ugly but she is. Not sure what your intent with the face is really so can’t give you advice there. If she’s supposed to be looking out the window or at the birds she’s looking more to the right of the birds maybe at the window frame.

[Anonymous No.4859886]

>>4859858
Thanks. That's actually very helpful, anon. I appreciate the explanation. I'll work on trying to fix those right now.
As far as her face is concerned, she is supposed to be doing a bit of a pout, looking more off into the distance than directly at the birds or outside the window. In my case, I usually stare at nothing than stare outside, so that is the intent, it it helps.

[Anonymous No.4859888]

Warm up - feeling rusty

[Anonymous No.4859895]

>>4859888
How about you stfu?

[Anonymous No.4859896]

>>4859886
If she’s not supposed to be uggo, I’d bring her chin in and make her nose less bulbous. Her lips are also too close to her nose.

[Anonymous No.4859906]

>>4859896
The nose actually is supposed to be a bulbous, but I hear you on the chin and lip issue. Thanks again for taking the time, dude. Still tweaking.

[Anonymous No.4859907]

>>4859888
Nipple cucumbers

[Anonymous No.4859918]

>>4859888
Time to study anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4859943]

>>4859918
Time to study anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4859949]

Can't wait for Higurashi remake

[Anonymous No.4859961]

>>4859949
I like your rendering. Very soft and pays attention to lighting. I am a bit iffy on the right arm. Your foreshortening makes it look like it slightly snaps at the elbow.
Did you use a reference for it?

[Anonymous No.4859964]

>>4859961
Yes, here it is

[Anonymous No.4859965]

>>4859949
Jelly of the rendering, but proportions could use some work.

[Anonymous No.4859968]

>>4859964
Sometimes reality is stranger than fiction. The arm just looks off in the photo.

[Anonymous No.4859977]

>>4859965
Yeah, thought about it but wanted to make her look a bit less childish.

[Anonymous No.4860007]

>>4859977
nahh bro, im a diff anon, your proportions in your image are not older they are just wrong, torso is way pulled out n shit dog.

[Anonymous No.4860029]

>>4859964
AAAAHHHH I WANT TO HAVE SEX SO BAD

[Anonymous No.4860030]

[Anonymous No.4860044]

>>4860007
Now that I look at it I've fucked that up indeed. Lol shit happens I guess.

[Anonymous No.4860053]

>>4860044
thats why we post bruh, but the rendering on your piece is really nice and soft touch.

[Anonymous No.4860074]

>>4859888
Fire mario, maybe I’ll do a full drawing so she can have cool giant mech hands

>>4859895
Here is your you

>>4859907
They are button snaps...

>>4859918
It’s always time to study anatomy

[Anonymous No.4860084]

>>4860030
Love chili leela. Would love seeing how that version would look at proper height. The super cyberpunk one is good too

[Anonymous No.4860087]

>>4860074
>hEreS yOur YoU

people are getting tired of your spam. you're sunk deep into your comfort zone and it shows

[Anonymous No.4860091]

>>4860087
Maybe you should give him some constuctive critique instead of getting mad at people for posting art in an art thread

[Anonymous No.4860094]

>>4860091
im not mad at him for posting art im mad at him for stagnating and then getting shitty with people because the ego cant handle it.

[Anonymous No.4860095]

>>4860087
>>4860094
pyw

[Anonymous No.4860096]

>>4860087
You didn't make that comment to help him, so you can't be surprised when he doesn't take you seriously.
A you is the only thing you could have been expecting. You should be happy you got even that.

[Anonymous No.4860097]

>>4860074
Holy fuck stfu, no one cares you fag.

[Anonymous No.4860098]

>>4860096
okay fag, "hey dont draw the same vaguely cybernetic girl with a new coat of paint 800 times"

[Anonymous No.4860101]

>>4860094
>>4860098
Maybe you should lie down for a while if you're getting heated over an anon drawing something you don't like

[Anonymous No.4860105]

>>4860101
hey anon calm down stop screaming maybe you should take a nap wow cant believe youre taking this so seriously etc etc etc

[Anonymous No.4860106]

>>4860105
Anon is upset because no one takes him seriously.

[Anonymous No.4860107]

>>4860105
This but unironically.
Also post work lmao

[Anonymous No.4860109]

>>4860107
no lmao
my work wont make his any better lmao

[Anonymous No.4860111]

>>4860109
No, but the fact you're afrais to post it just confirms you're Dunning Kruger, back to /beg/ with you

[Anonymous No.4860112]

>>4860109
Sometimes spite is a good motivator. If you are so upset at the perceived flaws of another, use it to fuel your own drive for improvement.

[Anonymous No.4860118]

>>4860111
the fact that you replied to me proves that you love cocks in your asshole and have a learning disability as well as eat your own shit. look i can type things on the internet too.
you can bounce up and down on your chair typing all day but the fact is plainly that that guy just posts the same shit in different colors every week.
there was one that was kind of interesting because it was actually a complete picture but i never saw it finished and now its back to halfassed pinups.

[Anonymous No.4860130]

>>4860118
hey anon calm down stop screaming maybe you should take a nap

[Anonymous No.4860135]

>>4860130
you googled and then saved that image to try to get a cute zinger in. cope

[Anonymous No.4860168]

>>4854492

[Anonymous No.4860172]

>>4860118
It’s not that deep.

[Anonymous No.4860178]

>>4860172
there literally wasnt anything deep about it, the fact that you think i was trying to be insightful in the least outs you as a moron

[Anonymous No.4860181]

>>4860087
>posting a fucking facebook meme
>lack of punctuation and capitalization
>offering no critique whatsoever
Yeah no, kill yourself.
You don't belong here.

[Anonymous No.4860188]

>>4860168
A. N. I. M. E.
Do it

[Anonymous No.4860204]

>>4860188
What?

[Anonymous No.4860206]

>>4860181
im cracking up imagining the effeminate nerd saying this to himself and being like "yeah this will own him"

[Anonymous No.4860214]

>>4860206
Projecting faggot.

[Anonymous No.4860224]

>>4860178
No, I’m saying it’s not even deep enough to get that worked up.
Just post art or give real feedback.

[Anonymous No.4860231]

>>4860214
>projecting

if you said "no you" i would assume that youre a retard but since you said "projecting" instead i'll assume you're an educated psychology student and not a 21 year old drooling cumsucking retard.

[Anonymous No.4860233]

>>4860231
Just kill yourself already.

[Anonymous No.4860242]

>>4860233
good one

[Anonymous No.4860246]

>>4860242
I knew you were that dumb fucking Redditor that's been shitting up the board with those whining /beg/ threads. Kill yourself twice.

[Anonymous No.4860255]

>>4860246
wrong, schizo
honk honk

[Anonymous No.4860261]

>>4860255
Kill yourself, Redditor.

[Anonymous No.4860305]

>>4859273
love it

[Anonymous No.4860342]

[Anonymous No.4860348]

>>4860342
S O U L

[Anonymous No.4860357]

>>4860261
say it again, clown
honk honk

[Anonymous No.4860389]

>bitter vendetta posting
>acting like everyone else agrees with you
>multiple people call you retarded
>start spamming facebook and Reddit memes

[Anonymous No.4860465]

[Anonymous No.4860527]

>>4857224
Jesus asukafag

[Anonymous No.4860530]

>>4858276
Same

[Anonymous No.4860887]

I can understand shitting on some of the anons here, cause they can get autistic and egocentric, but tableguy is a good dude. He's one of the few people that actually support and comment on many of /ic/ anons' art.

[Anonymous No.4860931]

forgot to post this, not too happy with the dress desu, had a lot of trouble with it

[Anonymous No.4860944]

>>4860887
natural order of things around here when you are recognizable. Suddenly you are seen as a tryhard by simply drawing and posting often. Stagnation is the next accusation if they see even the briefest, natural plateau of ability and if the artist doesnt respond to that the way they want, then they accuse him of arrogance as they are given an excuse to finally tear him down. Its not like tableguy is free from critique or anything, its just incredibly telling how anon go the most rancorous way about it, with the intent of getting an equal response in return.

[Anonymous No.4860951]

>>4859888
>>4860074
From the amount of shit you're getting I'm guessing you're a known poster?
Seen your art in a thread a few months before corona.

[Anonymous No.4860961]

>>4860944
>Its not like tableguy is free from critique or anything, its just incredibly telling how anon go the most rancorous way about it, with the intent of getting an equal response in return.
Indeed, his art is far from perfect, but none of those posts came from good faith. But like I said, I think he earned spamming this thread more than usual since he supports artists.

[Anonymous No.4860962]

>>4860961
what a retarded take

[Anonymous No.4860971]

>>4860962
Explain yourself

[Anonymous No.4860983]

>>4860971

you have to go back

[Anonymous No.4860994]

>>4860983
Explain yourself or shut up. Don't play faggot games.

[Anonymous No.4861023]

>>4854505
I think I bullied him once now I just feel bad man

[Anonymous No.4861035]

>>4861023
Congrats, he’s dead now.

[Anonymous No.4861040]

>>4859949
cute

[Anonymous No.4861050]

>>4854505
BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.4861064]

>>4856813
mouth needs to be larger, the corners of his mouth should juuust about align with the inner sides of the iris, not quite at the pupil. you should also slightly lower his mouth and make his chin more square. once you adjust the corners of the mouth you can bring that point down to form the square shape of his chin. it also looks like his nostrils should be wider and the round tip of his nose slightly more pronounced. your portrait is looking good so far, he looks slightly too feminine and i think those subtle changes would capture his likeness and make him look more masculine. are you used to drawing women more?

[Anonymous No.4861065]

>>4861064
one more thing i noticed is that his forehead is slightly too wide, this also feminized him. shave off a milimeter

[Anonymous No.4861093]

sexy?

[Anonymous No.4861106]

>>4861093
Not even a little.

[Anonymous No.4861107]

>>4854505
Did someone archive his drawings?

[Anonymous No.4861111]

>>4845845
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4861122]

>>4861106
Better? what am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.4861136]

So what's next? I never went this far. How to line and render this shit?

[Anonymous No.4861137]

>>4861093
>>4861122
not sexy but it is almost beautiful or elegant

[Anonymous No.4861152]

>>4861122
What did you even change? Just the costume? The costume isn't the issue, the figure is.
Sexy female figures require flowing curves, what you've drawn is more like lumpy lines.
The legs in particular are malformed and unappealing, and the breast looks like a rock.
Are you sexually attracted to girls in the first place? Because it's going to be tough for you to make sexy girls if not.

[Anonymous No.4861185]

reminder to stop using discord

[Anonymous No.4861188]

warmup before studies

[Anonymous No.4861196]

[Anonymous No.4861197]

>>4861196
yev?

[Anonymous No.4861273]

>>4854669
disregard everything everyone has ever done and just do your thing.

[Anonymous No.4861278]

>>4858429 >>4859329
Not sure I have an approach to vfx yet. Still trying to figure things out.
I think the feet should be larger and better defined in form (they woble a bit, feel out of shape). The thing were she is resting on you could push the cushions shapes, mold them around her more, feels a tad rigid. I like the storytelling behind tho, so she's bored because she has to stay inside or so? There's someone training outside.

>>4857110
Thanks, I do have to check explosions dynamics but yeah, it's hurting me not knowing what shape/stage/forces to put inside a single illustration.

Another vfx batch, left better than right side so far. Still troubles with shapes but have been checking stuff out although I do not get anything so far.

[Anonymous No.4861309]

Ok last one and then I'll stop spamming. Feel free to redline if you want

[Anonymous No.4861358]

>>4861093
Queen is that your body

[Anonymous No.4861396]

>>4858517
Cool, I used the same reference!

[Anonymous No.4861446]

what's your premier example of east x west stylized art? I need some inspirations.
I like dudes looking batman built but with anime undertones, and girls looking anime cute with western quirkiness

[Anonymous No.4861491]

WIP

[Anonymous No.4861494]

>>4861396
Damn...I was proud of not using references...i was a fool...

[Anonymous No.4861525]

>>4861278
Thank you for the feedback. I agree with your points. I've tried to make some of the changes, but tweaks are always being made.
You're right on the money with the "story" of the image.

[Anonymous No.4861529]

>>4861525
This is so cheap and ugly.

[Anonymous No.4861533]

>>4861529
Don't be fucking mean!

[Anonymous No.4861541]

>>4861533
Dollar store comics.

[Anonymous No.4861578]

>>4861111
https://klinckfoster.tumblr.com
https://www.instagram.com/klinck_foster/
https://twitter.com/ArtKlinck

[Anonymous No.4861587]

>>4861578
Mah niggy

[Anonymous No.4861625]

aaaaa

[Anonymous No.4861646]

[Anonymous No.4861680]

>>4861529
I’m sorry to hear that. Don’t know where the “cheap” comes from, but you do you.

What happened to these threads, anyway? They weren’t always this full of unhelpful anons.

[Anonymous No.4861698]

>>4859273
Car on the left needs a bigger engine

[Anonymous No.4861706]

>>4861525
the face needs fixing. I know it might be your "style" but the nose, mouth and eyes and the freckles is just a huge turn off. Like come on.. the speckles on her face look like fucking moon craters. You messed up on the most important part of the composition which the characters face.

[Anonymous No.4861710]

>>4861680
Can you be a little more passive aggresive?

[Anonymous No.4861719]

>>4861710
Don’t know how else you’d expect me to respond to something like that.
Anon started off escalated.

[Anonymous No.4861759]

>>4861706
Are you the anon I was speaking to when I posted the lineart? I ask because you mentioned the face. I did attempt to incorporate a number of your critiques and tweaks, though it seems that I haven't gotten them just right.
If it is you, I do have to say that I prefer how it looks after your feedback, so thank you in that regard.
On the subject of the face speckles/freckles, I was going for a bit of an Archie Andrews stylization, pic related. It's a shorthand that I've picked up. Are you suggesting I do away with them entirely, or is there a way that I could maintain the aesthetic while getting something more visually pleasing?

[Anonymous No.4861813]

>>4861625
Anything else I should fix before moving on?

[Anonymous No.4861820]

>>4861813
Looks pretty solid to me, man.

Top row's characters I wanna use for a comic. Bottom row is me drawin notable people to figure out the visual style I want for the comic. I got the most naggin feelin that I could do more and take these further, but I'm not quite sure how. Like the way I drew em seem too timid.

[Anonymous No.4861822]

>>4861820
Yuck tumblr

[Anonymous No.4861824]

>>4861822
Why are they coming here?!?!!!

[Anonymous No.4861833]

>>4861820
These are cute! Soul!!!

[Anonymous No.4861843]

>>4861820
I think you have a good handle of caricature in this style. The famous faces look recognizable.
Push further for experimentation, but I think you’d risk veering into complete caricature.

[Anonymous No.4861858]

Any advice?

[Anonymous No.4861860]

>>4857349
>>4861064

Thanks for these replies, guys. I really appreciate it. As you can both tell I really only draw girls haha, I'm trying to break out of that and learn to draw masculine features too. This was my first real attempt at drawing a male. I'm going to give it another shot over the weekend and start from scratch with your advice.

[Anonymous No.4861863]

>>4861858
Go to /beg/, read the sticky.
The only decent part of this is the perspective, which leads me to believe you used a 3D model for reference.

[Anonymous No.4861864]

>>4861858
The arm feels too stubby for your foreshortening. The forearm and hand would look better if they were brought closer to the “camera.”
I recommend mimicking the pose. The hand would naturally fall to around the hip area, rather than the top of the waist.

[Anonymous No.4861867]

>>4861863
They aren’t going to learn anything from that. Contribute something of value if you’re going to say anything.

[Anonymous No.4861871]

>>4854505
AHAHAHAH He's not going away what an attention whore!

[Anonymous No.4861873]

>>4861863
Not really a 3d model just reference pic for a pose i found on pintrest. I am posting on beg daily, people there seem to only reply to my studies.

[Anonymous No.4861886]

>>4861867
Sensitive retard.

>>4861873
>people there seem to only reply to my studies.
Because studies are the only thing worth showing at this stage in your development. It's okay to keep doing art for fun, but when every aspect of it is wrong there is nothing to really comment on. Additionally, this most definitely does not belong on /alt/; you don't have a 'style' yet, you just don't know how to draw things.

[Anonymous No.4861909]

>>4861886.
Ok the drawing is garbage.
What do you think is the worst on the pic?

[Anonymous No.4861971]

give him >>4861491 crits
How can he take his drawing on the right to the next level?

[Anonymous No.4861986]

>>4861971
>him
Sure, "him", not "me"

[Anonymous No.4861996]

>>4861986

[Anonymous No.4862003]

>>4861396
>>4858517
she cute

[Anonymous No.4862076]

>>4861909
The question is pointless. Everything needs to be thrown out, nothing there should be held on to.
And again, this isn't the thread for critiquing beginners.

[Anonymous No.4862133]

Kek what happened to the new thread

[Anonymous No.4862145]

New bread now
>>4862143
>>4862143
>>4862143

[Anonymous No.4862327]

>>4861867
dumb ass