/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4845798]

Why the fuck does this nigger want me to draw 250 boxes and 250 cylinders and all this stupid shit. I'd rather drink bleach. Maybe the information he talks about and exercises are helpful but making beginners hate drawing by having them spend a shitload of hours drawing fucking boxes with a pen is terrible. Is there any good reason I or anyone else should draw hundreds of boxes and cylinders in empty space using a pen and paper?

[Anonymous No.4845802]

>>4845798
Just do it faggot
ngmi

[Anonymous No.4845804]

>>4845798
It’s literally an exercise you could complete within a couple of hours. Ngmi

[Anonymous No.4845807]

>>4845804
Like seriously though OP how long do you think it takes to do a decent drawing? you literally don’t have it in you to be an artist if you can’t draw boxes for an hour or two. I might draw 250 boxes just to show you how quickly it can be done

[Anonymous No.4845812]

>>4845804
>>4845807
How long do you think it takes to draw 12 lines, every single one ghosted through of course, making sure to eyeball the vanishing points and intersections of perspective for each one?
Also multiply that by 250

[Anonymous No.4845813]

Post some boxes and we'll tell you if you need to do those challenges.

[Anonymous No.4845818]

>getting filtered by fucking boxes
literal ngmis

[Anonymous No.4845832]

>>4845798
>Is there any good reason I or anyone else should draw hundreds of boxes and cylinders in empty space using a pen and paper?

It's helpful for people to begin drawing volumes instead of shapes. Which is a useful skill to have.

[Anonymous No.4845835]

>>4845798
So you can learn and improve the fundamental skill of draftsmanship, i.e. accurately creating 3D objects in perspective. By the end of that you should be able to draw 3D forms in perspective much more easily. Once you have a feel for drawing in 3D you can draw simple stuff like boxes or cylinders directly without sketching or using guides, and from there you can learn to do the same with organic forms like figures, or other more complex objects. Draftsmanship is one of, if not THE most important fundamental drawing skills.

[Anonymous No.4845883]

>>4845812
You're not supposed to complete it in one night. I know zoomers are used to the idea of having everything handed to them with a click of a button, but you are ngmi if you can't even be patient and pace yourselves with such a simple task.

[Anonymous No.4845891]

Every time you draw a human figure you're at least doing 8 boxes, for the 8 parts of the body. Every single thing you draw is put into boxes. 250 isn't a lot.

[Anonymous No.4845895]

>>4845812
I completed mine in a week and a half, spending time on it for 30-45 mins doing 10-20 boxes each day. I probably could have completed it way faster but I had to stop my self sometimes to prevent burnout or falling into an "autopilot" mode where I'm just grinding just to complete the exercise instead of actually learning. By the end of it, I definitely have a better understanding of construction and 3D space and everytime I draw a box for my figures, it wasn't so dogshit anymore. Watch a podcast or your favorite youtuber or something while doing these exercises and stop whining faggot

[Anonymous No.4845898]

I personally didn’t find any of this helpful. Felt like D’amelio’s suited me better and gave me a better, more reliable sense of depth and volume. Also not being that impressed by the instructor’s work is an issue for me personally; i reckon he’s a great guy and hardworking too, but his work doesn’t do anything for me.

But I’m a /beg/ so tf do I know

[Anonymous No.4845966]

>>4845798
>Why the fuck does this nigger want me to draw 250 boxes and 250 cylinders and all this stupid shit.
https://youtu.be/HjUv0Zv0T8o?t=557
>making beginners hate drawing by having them spend a shitload of hours drawing fucking boxes.
https://drawabox.com/lesson/0/2/50percent
>with a pen is terrible.
https://youtu.be/HjUv0Zv0T8o?t=777
NGMI!!!!!!!!
https://youtu.be/7MV-bJz1dcw?t=1583
>>4845835
>Draftsmanship is one of, if not THE most important fundamental drawing skills.
TRUE

[Anonymous No.4845978]

>>4845812
>>4845883
>>4845895
Fucking yikes

[Anonymous No.4845984]

>>4845798

Drawabox isn't good at all.

Peter Han books are better. You need to construct stuff instead of just autistically drawing boxes.

[Anonymous No.4846005]

>>4845984
It's the same stuff...

[Anonymous No.4846044]

>>4845984
DAB is better for complete /beg/'s whose never picked up a pencil before. With Peter Han, the course assumes you've had some mileage with drawing.

[Anonymous No.4846047]

Op if you can't rationalize what anyone can gain from early mastery of 2/6 of the most important shapes in all of art then you are literally NGMI and will never escape /beg/

[Anonymous No.4846073]

I like to steer /beg/s away from DAB so they stay /beg/ and never make it, less competition for me

[Anonymous No.4846122]

Dynamic Sketching is only useful when you have an idea of what you want to draw so you can take and “run with” the ideas taught. Otherwise it’s a waste of your time.

[Anonymous No.4846166]

>>4845798
to teach you to be uncomfortable with drawing things that are hard
or be weak and perish like a bitch

[Anonymous No.4846235]

>>4845984
How you supposed to construct if you can't draw a box in perspective you dopey ass nigga

[Anonymous No.4846252]

>>4845798
/int/ here, i wish i got my lazy ass out and did it. It could have been faster if i learned form from shape first, i grinded anatomy for the whole year only to realize that i need understand how cylinder and box work first.

[Anonymous No.4846253]

>>4845798
don't do them faggot, just be mediocre all your life. imagine that by a miracle of our lord jesus christ you land a job at a manga firm and your lead tells you you have to make 250 buildings, each one has to be in different perspective, what are you going to do? say no? you're fucking fired faggot.

[Anonymous No.4846254]

I finished lesson one and the 250 box challenge in around three weeks of daily work. Wasn't that bad, although I have a lot of spare time telecommuting. You just set aside the time and do it.

[Anonymous No.4846308]

>>4846252
>i grinded anatomy for the whole year only to realize that i need understand how cylinder and box work first.
>/int/
Sure thing, fag

[Anonymous No.4846313]

>>4846252
what, how do you learn anatomy without knowing form? did you just did 1:1 copies of anatomical plates? lmao

[Anonymous No.4846324]

How do you know you're ready to start anatomy?
When you can create a multitude of forms all at different perspectives from memory?

[Anonymous No.4846330]

>>4846313
i've met suckers who could name every bone in the body but did not understand depth, perspective or composition to save their lives.

[Anonymous No.4846334]

>>4846324
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thh4JXnVtxM&ab_channel=Proko

[Anonymous No.4846358]

how do i even draw 250 boxes?
i can barely think of 10

[Anonymous No.4846359]

>>4846358
how do i even know if i'm doing it right?

[Anonymous No.4846368]

>>4846359
https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/1/convergences

[Anonymous No.4846421]

>>4845978
Me on the left

[Anonymous No.4846445]

>>4845798
Why try to do the 250 all at once? If it's easier to space it out then just do that.

[Anonymous No.4847725]

>>4846334
>45 mins
Give me the tl;dw

[Anonymous No.4847771]

i don't understand how you make sure your lines are the right length. Also should I do the 250 box challenge before I move onto lesson 2 or can I just do 25 or so as a warm up and build up from there?

[Anonymous No.4847805]

>>4847771
I wouldn't be so anal about the exact number of boxes.