/TRAD/ Traditional General

[Anonymous No.4824702]

the old one died, and in it's place a furry general popped up. do you guys want to be artists or are you just all focused on being lazy e-celebs?

[Anonymous No.4824704]

something something the absolute state

[Anonymous No.4824705]

>>4824704
i've already made it that's why I don't come here so much anymore. Don't need crits if the paintings sell, but at least I can start the trad thread to keep the dream alive that one of you might listen

[Anonymous No.4824712]

>>4824705
it's really sad how "together" 4chan makes their users lives out to be and then you come to /ic/ and see the actual depths of mediocrity that all of their negativity and ignorance breeds :(

[Anonymous No.4824731]

>>4824702
I'm just not sure what I can post here that would be better posted elsewhere. Can't post in both places cos then I'd be recognised as being on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.4824735]

>>4824731
/ic/ isn't 4chan, nobody knows this board exists

[Anonymous No.4824754]

>>4824712

You live with your mommy and daddy on their coin because you never held a job at the ripe age of 27. I don't think you are in any position to tell whether or not other people have their life together. Also you art is terrible.

[Anonymous No.4824770]

>>4824754
>I don't think you are in any position to tell whether or not other people have their life together.
sure i am

[Anonymous No.4824811]

begone cumfarti

the only case of genuine dunning kruger that i've seen here lately

[Anonymous No.4824854]

>>4824731
/ic/ is a hidden board

[Anonymous No.4824865]

>>4824705
>Don't need crits if the paintings sell
Your end goal with art is just selling a few paintings?

[Anonymous No.4824867]

>>4824702
My paintings already sell, I don't know what to post here anymore.

[Anonymous No.4824868]

>>4824865
I’ve sold 80 paintings in the past 3 months

[Anonymous No.4824869]

>>4824868
That isn't what I asked.

[Anonymous No.4824876]

>>4824869
it's to live in a big house by myself and die one day

[Anonymous No.4824878]

>>4824867

then stay away

[Anonymous No.4824879]

>>4824878
i'd rather you all leave so actual artists can post here instead of the doomer shit hole this place has become

[Anonymous No.4824888]

>>4824876
So all you care about is money? Then try accounting.

[Anonymous No.4824894]

>>4824879

Brian thinks he's an actual artist. Kek.

[Anonymous No.4824946]

>>4824878
OP here, that is a pathetic response.
>>4824879
And so is this.

I want my paintings to sell, it's miserable as fuck having a load of trad pictures that no-one wants. Besides, I'm using the money to pay off the mortgage, on the side of having a job I love. The aim is to build up the art side of things and make enough money to really live comfortably from it.
>>4824888
This is stupid, why should taking years to build up a skill mean you shouldn't benefit from it?

[Anonymous No.4824957]

>>4824946
>This is stupid, why should taking years to build up a skill mean you shouldn't benefit from it?
all the good artists quit after they learn to draw, duh

[Anonymous No.4824990]

>>4824888
crab

[Anonymous No.4824994]

>>4824990
Who the hell buys this shit

[Anonymous No.4825003]

>>4824868
Fuck, if you can do it, I can do it

[Anonymous No.4825004]

>>4824994
i thought digital anime coomer commissions, "the industry", teaching, and video games was the only way to make money as an artist, why did /ic/ lie to me?

[Anonymous No.4825016]

>>4825004
No I think the general idea is you have to sell your soul to make money and you've definitely ticked that box

[Anonymous No.4825018]

>>4825016
>you have to sell your soul to make money and you've definitely ticked that box
how? I paint exactly the same way I've always painted except now I make money at it.

[Anonymous No.4825029]

>>4825018
>I paint exactly the same way I've always painted
i strongly suggest that you reconsider this as something desirable

[Anonymous No.4825039]

>>4824994
Beats me.

[Anonymous No.4825044]

Made a few short, single session paintings

[Anonymous No.4825050]

[Anonymous No.4825052]

[Anonymous No.4825055]

[Anonymous No.4825056]

>>4824946
>why should taking years to build up a skill mean you shouldn't benefit from it?
I never said that, retard.

>>4824990
In your mind, how does the crab meme apply to this conversation?

[Anonymous No.4825067]

[Anonymous No.4825072]

[Anonymous No.4825078]

[Anonymous No.4825082]

>>4825056
Such a shitty attitude, why do you even bother posting? Just leave. Do something better with your time, as it's just boring for all of us.

[Anonymous No.4825084]

>>4825056
>In your mind, how does the crab meme apply to this conversation?
You're saying making money is bad, unless it's done in the proper, /ic/ approved ways, and it's better for someone to quit art than make money doing something that people on /ic/ wouldn't like.

[Anonymous No.4825093]

>>4825067
>>4825072

you're supposed to paint on the other side.


if that's oil it's gonna eat through the canvas so i hope you have nothing you treasure on the other side.

[Anonymous No.4825117]

if im gonna look for fabric to stretch do i just search 'canvas' or 'cotton'?

[Anonymous No.4825123]

>>4825093
You're not supposed to do anything. I like the properties of painting on unprimed canvas and if it deteriorates the linen so be it. It's not going to happen in my lifetime anyways.There's a whole bunch of gesso on the other side which should keep it together for a good century or so.

[Anonymous No.4825130]

>>4825117
cotton can vary a lot in quality and weave so look for a thicker cotton canvas. IKEA apparently has cheap rolls of cotton that works just fine as canvas, and you'll get to feel the fabric which is important. Linen has different properties which I personally much prefer over cotton.

[Anonymous No.4825138]

>>4825123

yeah your art is pretty bad so whatever

[Anonymous No.4825156]

>>4825138
Could you maybe use a few more words to explain that? It's hardly representive of my oeuvre, pic related is something I did a few weeks prior. I'm trying different things out which is necessary to develop, and while I'm not blind to it's flaws, something beyond "your art is bad" could at least give me something to think about.

[Anonymous No.4825173]

>>4825082
What attitude are you talking about?

>You're saying making money is bad
No, I am not.

>unless it's done in the proper, /ic/ approved ways
???
Where are you getting this shit?

[Anonymous No.4825174]

>>4825173
Second part is meant for this bizarre, insecure gibberish:
>>4825084

[Anonymous No.4825176]

>>4825173
You’re implying it instead of just saying it and being wrong

[Anonymous No.4825180]

>>4825176
No, I am not.
Stop guessing wildly, if you don't understand what someone means by something, you should ask.

[Anonymous No.4825183]

>>4825123
It's not going to deteriorate, it's going to rot and it will happen in your lifetime.

[Anonymous No.4825210]

>>4825123

If you like unprimed linen you should just buy a roll of it. You're very wasteful. And yes, the fibers will rot and it will fall apart within a few years, as you say the gesso is on the other side. Gesso creates a film that can't be penetrated by the oil in the paint. Do some research, man. Goes for your art too, it's clear you have no idea what you are doing.

[Anonymous No.4825248]

>>4825123
>he likes canvas rot

[Anonymous No.4825249]

>>4825180
post your work, or go back to the furry thread

[Anonymous No.4825315]

>>4825210
I do plenty research. Maybe you should too. How do you explain oil grounds? It is claimed (and there's a whole beautiful story about how this came to be) that a thorough oil ground - soaking the fibers in oil, a process which would make the time between preparing the canvas until you could start painting on it span minimum 2 years - is the single best way of preparing a canvas in terms to longevity. It's a stale meme you are reciting and perhaps I would be inclined to consider it if only you had some credibility and were not as easily prone to regurgitate sometging you've once heard and accepted as gospel.

[Anonymous No.4825320]

>>4825249
gross.

[Anonymous No.4825324]

>>4825210
>And yes, the fibers will rot and it will fall apart within a few years
I sold this painting for $330 and it's painted directly on unprimed sackcloth, and the buyer knew that, and still bought it. Sometimes art is seen as more valuable when it's ephemeral, and there are certain effects you can only get out of paint when you paint on unprimed materials.

[Anonymous No.4825338]

>>4825324
art is seen as more valuable to retarded normies when you paint neon colors in a faux painterly pretentious style. people buy trash every day doesnt mean it has real value

[Anonymous No.4825342]

>>4825249
Dumb schizo.

[Anonymous No.4825350]

>>4825324
>>4825338
Who's hating on Bacon for painting on raw canvas?

[Anonymous No.4825368]

>>4825338
>art is seen as more valuable to retarded normies when you paint neon colors in a faux painterly pretentious style
then FUCKING PAINT THAT! holy shit, do you fucking want money or not.

either you're an idiot or you're a beginner pretending you could do better. I hope it's the latter.

[Anonymous No.4825377]

>>4825315

Ever heard of rabbit glue?

[Anonymous No.4825387]

>>4825377
Yeah, and in relation to my example the glue rotting in humid climates was considered the leading cause of paint deterioration. Also, what makes you think I didn't glue the canvas?

[Anonymous No.4825388]

>>4824702
As, usual, the thread devolves into Brian shouting at everyone.

Begone Cumfarti, etc, etc.

And I'll get "rent free", yada yada, because it's all a big troll, always has been. Mods, can you guys reclaim trad threads from this gutter it's been turned into by a malignant narcissist?

[Anonymous No.4825393]

>>4825315
i think you will see some major colour shift before too long if you dont size it first.

[Anonymous No.4825395]

>>4825388
I don't know who 'Brian' is, but OP is clearly a spaz with mental issues.

[Anonymous No.4825533]

>>4825388
Just ignore the /trad/ threads coomfarti starts and make your own. He has a mental illness where he thinks even negative attention is good.

[Anonymous No.4825768]

Aquarelle.

[Anonymous No.4825771]

>>4825768
And oil. I might posted this peace already, i don't remember, but just in case i didn't.

[beginner here. please provide (...) No.4825839]

[beginner here. please provide (...) No.4825842]

>>4825839
need critique, been painting for less than 2 months

[beginner here. please provide (...) No.4825846]

>>4825842

[beginner here. please provide (...) No.4825853]

>>4825846

[beginner here. please provide (...) No.4825854]

>>4825853

[beginner here. please provide (...) No.4825860]

>>4825854

[beginner here. please provide (...) No.4825867]

>>4825860

[Anonymous No.4825892]

>>4825533
I generally do avoid them, because art rarely happens, just him shouting at people and being a complete narcissist. That's why I would prefer he not be allowed to start /trad threads. He prevents actual discussion of traditional art to happen - when he's not shouting at other people about how RBY is the worst thing ever and everyone should be using CMY.

Half the time I think he's just an elaborate troll who's stealing someone's art off social media and has educated himself on some subjects just enough to sound credible - because there ARE trolls that dedicated to trolling on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.4825894]

>>4825867
>>4825860
>>4825854
>>4825853
>>4825846
>>4825842
>>4825839
Pretty good, I would work on brush variation and technique.

[Anonymous No.4825908]

>>4825892
He's the CMY wanker? Figures....

[Anonymous No.4825915]

>>4825768
Im normally not a fan of aquarelle but these look great

[Anonymous No.4825934]

>>4825892
There is more than one person advocating for using CMY, retard.
OP may be a spastic loony, but if he really has tried to get people to use CMY, he's completely right about that. Broken clocks, etc.

[Anonymous No.4825942]

>>482593
Meant primarily for:
>>4825908

[Anonymous No.4825945]

>>4825942
For fuck's sake
>>4825934

[Anonymous No.4825956]

>>4824702
I fucking hate this brian fag so much, constant shilling of his own work, narcissistic personality, he's like a jimmy 2.0. He always makes /trad/ threads and then just spams his horrible mutilated female torsos, fucking d i s g u s t i n g. I've seen his fucking sales graph at least 3 times already.

If any mods are reading this please ban this faggot, he is bringing board quality down massively, even if it's just /trad/ threads, he massacres them with his lame shit. Actual discussion is stifled because of this deranged retard. Range ban this fag I implore you.

[Anonymous No.4825979]

>>4825956
You going around calling everyone 'narcissists' is just as annoying as the retarded OP.

[Anonymous No.4825997]

>>4825979
are you seriously defending the guy?? you ignored the rest of my post. And yes, flooding every single thread you come upon with multiple variations of someones shit art and turning the whole thread into an attention seeking prop is narcissistic. Hijacking a staple of /ic/, the trad thread and shilling your disgusting shit art is as well. You know what, fuck brian and fuck you as well

[Anonymous No.4826004]

>>4825997
>>4825956
These posts are both Brian trying to get more attention

[Anonymous No.4826007]

>>4825123
Why not get unprepared canvases then instead of painting on the back?

[Anonymous No.4826011]

>>4825997
>are you seriously defending the guy??
No, you retard, I'm calling you annoying.

>you ignored the rest of my post
The rest of your post isn't what I find annoying. You squawking "NARCISSIST, NARCISSIST!" at every poster you don't like is the sole issue I have with this post.

>flooding every single thread you come upon with multiple variations of someones shit art and turning the whole thread into an attention seeking prop is narcissistic
Cool, but expand your vocabulary a little. I've also seen you call people narcissists just for arguing with you about something.

[Anonymous No.4826020]

>>4826004
Wouldn't shock me. OP seems obsessive and this is obsessive behavior too.

[Anonymous No.4826035]

>>4826011
why are you doubleguessing the credibility of the 'he is a narcissist' statement? I stated my reasons for thinking why this should be the case.

Did someone in your life call you a narcissist once and you have bad memories about the word? Okay, he is self-absorbed then.

And for the record >>4826004,
I am both >>4825956 and >>4825997. I am not brian, I just dislike his attitude, let's forget his art here for a moment. He is obnoxious and vapid

[Anonymous No.4826049]

>Browse this board for 8 years
>Learn fundies
>Grind, grind, grind some more
>Classical training
>Bachelors in painting
>Grind, grind, grind some more
>Still grinding
>Rediscover ic
>Everything is the same .... but

>Everyone is worse
>No one even wants to succeed
>Everyone wants to magically walk into their own 'style'
>Their idea of 'style' is literally just anime
>People shitting on good / freely available reading material
>People can't handle criticism and respond with hostility
>Good advice is ignored / actively discouraged
>Literally no work ethic, save for a handful of active posters
>Watching Brian gradually consume himself in mental illness

>I should have brought popcorn

[Anonymous No.4826052]

>>4825078
I like this a lot but maybe the guts could have more value range?

[Anonymous No.4826059]

>>4826035
>doubleguessing
lolwut

>I stated my reasons for thinking why this should be the case
And I have no interest in arguing that point. You really have trouble parsing that someone can disagree with one thing you say or do without being 100% against you on all topics, huh? I think OP is a faggot, and I think your habit of calling anyone you disagree with a narcissist is also grating.

>Did someone in your life call you a narcissist once and you have bad memories about the word?
Like I said, I see you calling people here narcissists all the time even when it doesn't apply to the situation at all.

[Anonymous No.4826064]

>>4826059
okay, look. I did it only once before you called me out on using the word. I tried defending my points but they are of no importance because I am the one with issues because I stated my honest opinion on something?? Do you see how bizarre this is? Is this some weird gaslighting technique or something I honestly don't get it. You call me out on 'squawking' about using the word narcissistic? wtf

[Anonymous No.4826067]

>>4826049
Same.

[Anonymous No.4826103]

>>4826064
He can't use "rent free" because I called him out on it, so he's using sock puppets to attack the word - it's standard for him, and his abuse of sock puppets is one of the reasons I think it's all a troll, who's just farming (you)s. /pol is infested with that type - and "Brian" posts there.

[Anonymous No.4826112]

>>4826103
oh I see. You mistook me for the guy. I stated that I am not him previously but okay. No worries man, we made a jumble of things... anyways good luck

[Anonymous No.4826131]

>>4826064
>I did it only once before you called me out on using the word
I sincerely doubt that, but even if you're telling the truth, that just means you're parroting the retard(s) that do spam it.

[Anonymous No.4826136]

>>4826103
Sock puppets? This is 4chan, not twitter. And no, I'm not OP.

>/pol/ brought up out of nowhere
lmao okay guy.

[Anonymous No.4826142]

>>4826136
Sure, Brian. Heard this song and dance plenty of times before. "NoU, da sockpuppets no on 4chan". LOL. You're such a putz.

[Anonymous No.4826154]

>>4826142
Paranoid retard.

[Anonymous No.4826161]

>>4826131
I lurk 90% of the time and I think that this is the first time I've used the word 'narcissistic' on /ic/. Believe me or don't this is my last post I'm going to bed

[Anonymous No.4826183]

>>4826161
That's fine, we'll go with that for now. Again, if that's the case, then you should be aware that there are like 1-3 obsessive faggots that just call everyone narcissists, possibly because they think everyone is Brian. Kind of like what that other anon is doing right now.

[Anonymous No.4826205]

>>4824702
I like painting. I'm not sure this general is for me though, it mostly seems to be one guy who can't work out everyone hates him and everyone else feeding him attention.

>>4825839
>>4825842
>>4825846
>>4825853
>>4825854
>>4825860
>>4825867
I kinda like your stuff. Maybe you are just good at picking reference photos but the use of colour is pretty good is some of them. Everything is a bit samey texture wise which isn't a huge deal in a single painting but it sort of becomes more noticeable over several paintings, you should try find a reference with some nice sharp shapes and try some knife painting.

[Anonymous No.4826220]

>>4826154
Yeah, that's your usual retreat, shouting insults. And you'll be back in the next thread and do the same thing.

[Anonymous No.4826237]

>>4826220
This obsession isn't healthy.
OP is clearly mentally unwell, but looking for him everwhere like this makes you crazy too.

[Anonymous No.4826245]

>>4826237
Heard this one a bunch of times, too.

[Anonymous No.4826268]

>>4826245
Then take it to heart, you retard.
Jesus Christ.

[Anonymous No.4826274]

Worst thread ever.
This is why we can't have a nice /trad/ thread any more.

[Anonymous No.4826287]

>>4826245
>spends hours talking about himself and to himself online
>revels in any form of attention, positive or negative
>inability to see what everyone else sees in his work
>mentally breaks down and has family file missing person’s report

Nah, Brian is the prime example of mental health.

[Anonymous No.4826446]

>>4826049
his shoulders are too big. learn construction

[Anonymous No.4826538]

>>4826287

Don't forget about him stalking a webcam whore!

[Anonymous No.4826575]

>>4826538
Really? Who?

[Anonymous No.4826583]

>>4826575
ross draws

[Anonymous No.4826623]

I wish we could have trad threads without them becoming all about Brian

[Anonymous No.4826673]

>>4826575

Start here: >>/ic/thread/S4674435#p4681339

[Anonymous No.4826736]

>>4826623
Would you prefer them to be all about how much you hate digital art?

[Anonymous No.4826754]

>>4826673

Brian is even more pathetic than I thought

[Anonymous No.4826840]

>>4825315
There are multiple layers of rabbit or fish glue in between the oil ground and the linen. This way the oil never touches the linen.

>>4825387
The glue is not what's rotting, it's the linen and the paint. The glue layer actually helps conservators to reline the painting if the canvas is damaged.

Anyways, I get it that some people don't care about longevity, but let's not spread wrong info for no good reason. If you want your grandkids to inheret some of your paintings or be taken seriously by collectors, don't half-ass the materials part.

[Anonymous No.4826854]

>>4826840

Thanks for typing this all out, I really couldn't muster the effort to correct that retard who supposedly did so much research he is spouting complete bullshit. Shouldn't be surprised at that however considering what he posted as his work. I fucking hate /ic/.

[Anonymous No.4826904]

Is it normal for raw umber to be dramatically stiffer than my other oils, or is it just because I'm using low quality paints?

[Anonymous No.4826907]

>>4826904
Different pigments, different properties.
It happens with artist-grade paints too, even with watercolors some pigments re-wet easier than others. Some dry up smoothly into the pan and others start cracking up when they dry.

[Anonymous No.4826923]

>>4826904
>>4826907

This. Titanium white for example feels much stiffer than other whites and most other colors, too.

[Anonymous No.4826935]

Posting this again..
is it boring? I kinda like it as is but at the same time I feel something is missing idk

[Anonymous No.4826948]

>>4826935
It could use either a little more detail or contrast in the face. But I'm a zero skill amateur so take that for what its worth.

[Anonymous No.4826969]

>>4826948
I feel the same way but am afraid desu.. will do it anyways, she needs some more transitions between values on the face yes. Thank you anon

[Anonymous No.4827011]

>>4826969
Be brave, its just going to bother you if you don't try to fix it. If it's acrylic you can always use some retarding medium to make it easier to change up what you are doing as you try to finish it.

[Anonymous No.4827012]

>>4826935

It's very flat, basically pure notan, and very little things of interest to hold the viewer's eye. The biggest perpetrator is the big empty space you have going on. But I don't think you can salvage it with your current skill level, just go make something new and study more.

[Anonymous No.4827022]

>>4826287
if Brian was a narcissist he'd have blown his brains out already because nobody likes him anywhere on the internet. It's not like he's some famous celebrity artist that everybody loves. And he's not a sociopath, the camwhore stalking is a red herring, if you ever see his posts outside of /ic/ he's been obsessed with some bitch he dated in high school for like a decade. He just purposely tries to trick people into thinking he's a rich playboy ass hole for no reason. He's fucking retarded but he's not a narcissist. Maybe you guys just don't get his humor.

[Anonymous No.4827036]

>>4827022

He used to post a drawing of the camwhore nearly every day back in 2014. How is that not obsessive?

[Anonymous No.4827041]

>>4827022
>if Brian was a narcissist he'd have blown his brains out already because nobody likes him anywhere on the internet
It has been pointed out that he values any attention, good or bad.
Whether this is true or not, I do not fucking care.
He's annoying, people obsessing with him is annoying, and his art is mediocre. I do not want to hear from or about him ever again.
I don't fucking care. Just go away, I don't care.

[Anonymous No.4827048]

>>4827041
Hey, the thread managed 10 posts in a row without mentioning him just before, maybe things are looking up.

[Anonymous No.4827052]

>>4827011
yes, I use acryllic but will switch to oil once I burn through my stash / explore acryllics for making studies. Thank you for the kind words

>>4827012
It does have that unrefined, study-like atmosphere, I agree. I wanted to make a believable 'in trance' kinda female face and this was the second attempt. It looks like I will try to push this further to get some semblance of forms of the face and then maybe make the whole thing again when I have more knowledge and skill. Thank you as well

[Anonymous No.4827540]

landscape from imagination

[Anonymous No.4827554]

>>4827022

>Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) is an adaptation to a shaky self-esteem that originated in early childhood. The adaptation was the replacement of the child’s true self with a false (perfect) self that protects the child from the fear of not living up to his parent’s expectations and therefore being abandoned.

This false self stays with the child into adulthood. It is false. To give such a person the illusion that he is real, he needs constant affirmation from others. This usually equals praise and admiration. But when things don’t go as planned, those he depends on for positive feedback become a threat to the illusion. Once loved for their praise, these people suddenly become hated as enemies.

But for the narcissist, that’s even better than being loved. Now he has someone to blame things on. Whatever went wrong, it’s all the bad guy’s fault. The bad guy, by being bad, serves as a receptacle for all the anger the narcissist harbours against himself — his abandoned, shameful true self — and the world as a whole. The bad guy offers the narcissist a green light to dump his own frustrations and fears onto someone else. Devaluing someone else, after all, is the same things as building himself up. If things are really bad, the narcissist will indulge in a smear campaign. That to someone with NPD is a real ego trip! The ultimate power trip. An affirmation that he, the guy with NPD, is terrific while the guy being slandered is really the worst asshole in the world. (YouTube “Flying Monkeys.”)

I like to think of people with NPD as being infected by a shame monster. After all, NPD is the psychology of shame. For a narcissist, any means of avoiding the shame monster is an automatic high. He thrives on letting out his anger. A source of “negative attention” is a perfect target.

[Anonymous No.4827560]

>>4827540
Brian if you're going to be so lazy about your work, you should just work digitally

[Anonymous No.4827564]

>>4827560
digital is too easy.

[Anonymous No.4827570]

>>4827554
Nigga wtf are you talking about I just paint pictures

[Anonymous No.4827581]

>>4827560
lolwut
Traditional is much more conducive to sloppy painting.

[Anonymous No.4827585]

>>4827581
>Traditional is much more conducive to sloppy painting.
i mean sure, but it'll look like shit. Digital still looks good regardless.

[Anonymous No.4827693]

My microns have been clogging and drying out i think it has something to do with the paper im using (printer paper) what paper goes well with microns

[Anonymous No.4827699]

>>4827585
>he hasn’t seen Brian’s digital work

It’s just as shitty, anon

[Anonymous No.4827771]

my balls hurt. i was bending my dick around trying to see if it would reach my own hole.

[Anonymous No.4827803]

>>4827699
It's a waste of oil paint if he never finishes his paintings

[Anonymous No.4828040]

>>4827585
What a retarded thing to say.
No, if you are a sloppy painter, the inherent textures and qualities of paint can carry the piece to a certain degree. Digital doesn't have this luxury, as you have to work a lot harder to get similar effects.

[Anonymous No.4828073]

>>4827540
mirin that dick topiary

[Anonymous No.4828075]

>>4828040
Imagine coming into the trad thread and trying to convince them that digital is harder. Go back to your containment thread

[Anonymous No.4828181]

>>4828040
You’ve got to be painting at a very low level if your traditional work relies so heavily on “the inherent textures and qualities of paint”

[Anonymous No.4828327]

>>4828075
Seethe.

>>4828181
Uh yeah, that's what we're talking about.

[Anonymous No.4828587]

Anyone like John Bauer? I found his stuff recently and I REALLY like it. Even the name of the kind of art sounds cool - "romantic nationalism".

[Anonymous No.4828604]

>>4826736
I like doing digital art. Saves me lots of money on materials.

[Anonymous No.4828823]

>>4826049
Post work homo

[Anonymous No.4828932]

>>4826274
Begone cumfarti

[Anonymous No.4830079]

Forest floor

[Anonymous No.4830736]

>>4830079
Oil on canvas by the way

[Anonymous No.4830841]

ive been oil painting kinda tiny recently cos i paint more if i can lean back with a clipboard and a small bit of paper.
should i get a pack of those 'fine detail brushes' that are usually marketed toward homemade jewelry ppls? will it help me not make blobby faces at small scale?

[Anonymous No.4831214]

Painted the Acropolis

[Anonymous No.4831453]

>>4826907
>>4826923
Yeah different brands of paint also use different combinations of oil, some might use more safflower or poppy or sunflower oil . Just play around with mediums

[Anonymous No.4831468]

>>4831453
>or sunflower
did you mean walnut?

[Anonymous No.4831510]

>>4830841
New brushes won't help, but learning to paint will

[Anonymous No.4831526]

>>4831510
>just git gud
i am learning. dick.

[Anonymous No.4831552]

>>4830079
Use more paint friend. That white is going to tickle people's autism. Also, lets see some brush strokes, it looks like you're grinding the paint in.

>>4831214
You put all that effort into capturing light and space, but I still cant read the right side of the painting. I don't have the reference, so I can't just complete the rest of the painting in my head. Finish your painting for once. For someone who's trying to be prolific, it doesn't count if you never finish anything. At least clean up the bottom of the painting. I KNOW you can do better.

>>4830841
Your problem isn't your brush, it's your color and light. You don't need to be razer sharp to pull off what you're going for. Don't worry about polishing turds, keep painting and work on your forms.

[Anonymous No.4831713]

Not sure if this goes here or the materials thread: Any scanner recommendations? The natural lighting in my room is shit, the actual light bulb is also shit (would love recommendations on that if there are any), and my scanner has recently started going to shit. I have to spend a good half hour in Photoshop just adjusting colors because it won't even mess up colors in a consistent manner.

[Anonymous No.4831717]

>>4831526
He's giving you good advice, don't be so defensive.

[Anonymous No.4831831]

>>4831468
I have a few tubes that list sunflower as one of the vehicles. Not sure how it differs from the others though.

[Anonymous No.4831866]

>>4831526
Wow, rude.
That was good advice, tiny brushes are not required while you still have everything to learn first.

[Anonymous No.4831870]

>>4831831
Never heard of such a thing, please tell us the brands.

[Anonymous No.4831873]

Base layer wip. Always looks so messy at the start. Im so noncommittal oils look like watercolor. Hope to build up some texture and color richness next layer or 2. Maybe even try some glazing at the end.

[Anonymous No.4831875]

>>4831873
Ah geez, sideways.

[Anonymous No.4831880]

>>4830841
I’ve started using finer brushes but you should learn how brush stiffness, shape and how paint is loaded and unloaded first. If the brushes you have can’t paint fine detail in a face try painting a bigger face. Watch how James Gurney uses a corner of a flat to get very fine points and lines. Fine brushes are a convenience but the overall technique of laying a stroke is more important to master.

[Anonymous No.4831885]

>>4831875
>>4831873
Using solvent for that watercolor in under painting is a valid technique, but if you might also want to experiment with scumbling undiluted paint, especially for the translucent darks.

[Anonymous No.4831914]

Hey just a hot tip furries pay premium for trad art because they see it as exotic.

[Anonymous No.4831989]

>>4831885
Hey, thanks. I'll give that a go.

[Anonymous No.4832087]

>>4831914
I don't know if exotic is the right word, but they definitely do pay a premium. I used to make these fursona badges (just a small Copic or watercolor drawing of their fursona on nice paper you can slip into a lanyard for conventions) and sold those for $75-$150 depending on character complexity. They didn't take very long to do since the size was so small (an hour max I would say) and were very fun to do since the designs and colors always tended to push me out of my comfort zone. Furries, man. They're good people.

[Anonymous No.4832272]

>>4831880
>corner of a flat
I can do it with gouache but I can't with oils.

[Anonymous No.4832332]

>>4832272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6SvKjEQTWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvMIPkMqcaQ

Andrew Tischler does it a bit in his vids as well.

[Anonymous No.4832720]

>>4830841
looks wholesome, nice

[Anonymous No.4832772]

critique plz

[Anonymous No.4832775]

>>4832772
Texture and contrast advances, learn to use that.

[Anonymous No.4832796]

>>4832772
You’re getting there :)

[Anonymous No.4832799]

>>4832720
its not my composition, was just copying something out of my 'things i like' folder

[Anonymous No.4832927]

I want to keep my trad art in case I ever get good, so I have the journey saved. But I'd be completely embarrassed by anyone seeing my art while I'm still shit.

Anyone else feel the same?

[Anonymous No.4832969]

>>4832927
why be embarrassed? everyone starts somewhere. why not just offload to parents/aunts/uncles etc? the one i painted is of a mate climbing a mountain in canada, so i'm offloading it to him or his parents kek

i mean look at mine. >>4832772

[Anonymous No.4832988]

>>4831214
BEGONE, CUMFARTI!

[Anonymous No.4833063]

>>4832087
where and how do people even get commissions? I cannot figure it out

[Anonymous No.4833633]

>>4824702
Anyone my clay relief wheat?

[Anonymous No.4833723]

>>4833633
Neat.

[Anonymous No.4833791]

>>4833723
Thanks

[Anonymous No.4834251]

did a figure painting

[Anonymous No.4834448]

>>4834251
Lol

[Anonymous No.4834453]

killed myself

[Anonymous No.4834551]

>>4831989
im a different anon but you should check out benjamin bjorklund. treats oil paints more or less like watercolors to great success

[Anonymous No.4834635]

>>4834551
Woah, gorgeous, thank you. Looks like he has demos up, too. Great find.

[Anonymous No.4834776]

>>4833063
I'm a bad person to ask. For me, it was mostly word of mouth or people asking me if I'm open for commissions at conventions, and then building up a small but consistently returning customer base from there.

[Anonymous No.4834780]

>>4834776
That's how most people do it, just networking. If you can become popular enough online, then you won't need that, but in order to become that popular, you need a strong social media pressence, and a healthy bit of luck.

[Anonymous No.4835361]

>>4834251
tried this technique in pastel

[Anonymous No.4835379]

>>4824702
are alcohol markers trad?

[Anonymous No.4835412]

>>4835379
yup, i'm not really sure what an alcohol marker is but if it's done on paper by hand it's trad

[Anonymous No.4835466]

>>4835412
ummm they're just markers but they're alcohol based instead of water so you can blend them and they dry fast. Wanted to step away from the layers and undo button for a while.

[Anonymous No.4835514]

>>4835412

[Anonymous No.4836938]

>>4825156
lol

[Anonymous No.4837019]

>>4825156
Fucking legend.

[Anonymous No.4837048]

>>4835379
What paper do you use for them? I picked up some alcohol inks on a whim and I like them, but i dunno what to do with them.

[Anonymous No.4838016]

[Anonymous No.4838018]

Portrait of my sister. Sorry for the horrible photo
>>4824868
I've been doing coomer commissions for 2 years maybe,but I would like to start taking oil portrait commissions.How do I get into that?

Where do you sell your paintings? and for how much?
should I bother taking my work to art galleries?

[Anonymous No.4838039]

>>4837048
its just the cheapest sketchbook. nothing special.

[Anonymous No.4838056]

>>4838016
how many more times are you going to post this shit

[Anonymous No.4838060]

>>4838056
i sold the first one this is a new version

[Anonymous No.4838090]

>>4838018
Disproportionate from the tiny eyes to huge bottom jaw. The skin and clothing look nice though

[Anonymous No.4838091]

>>4838018
That's pretty good. I think someone would pay for a portrait like that. Though I sadly can't help you on how to get there as I'm trying to do the same with not much luck.
Do you use social media? As shitty as it may seem, having active accounts and reaching out to people in your circles might help find an audience.
Maybe look into university galleries? They might be more willing to work with unknown artists than professional galleries. I don't know though.
I have no idea how to price paintings. If you're an unknown, even though you're good, you probably can't charge too much. That said, I'm always worried about undervaluing my work. Remember to consider size, cost of materials, and time you spent working on the piece.

[Anonymous No.4838144]

I'm gonna be a trad Chad.

[Anonymous No.4838301]

>>4838016
Please not this again
>>4838018
A lot is good about your portrait, but the anatomy of the eyes is wrong, and eyebrows aren't painted on top of the flesh like that-make up is, but are you painting make up?

[Anonymous No.4838302]

>>4838060
well still awful. I've sold a shit ton f dreadful trad pictures, normies will buy anything, but we don't want to see that here, that's why I don't put my stuff like that here....it's just crap.

[Anonymous No.4838326]

>>4825078
damn nice work

[Anonymous No.4838334]

>>4825768
those are great. especially the top and bottom right

[Anonymous No.4838368]

>>4838302
this. people will buy literal trash, doesnt mean it's not trash

[Anonymous No.4838433]

>>4838368
You know it your heart & soul it is, same as we can see it is.

[Anonymous No.4838473]

>>4838018
just put them on ebay and someone will buy them. and as soon as you make money don't worry, because people like >>4838368
>>4838433
>>4838302
will shit talk you no matter what.

Best advice I ever heard was "If you wait until you're ready to have a child you'll never be a parent"... same goes for art. If you spend all your time working and never thinking your work is ready to sell, you'll never sell it.

[Anonymous No.4838678]

>>4825324
That looks really dope

[Anonymous No.4838695]

[Anonymous No.4838808]

[Anonymous No.4838831]

>>4838018
DOES SHE HACE BOYFREIND

[Anonymous No.4838835]

>>4825055
Are you that faggot who used to paint grotesque pictures of celebrities and was a total annoying ass in general?

[Anonymous No.4838885]

>>4838835
If you’re talking about Jimmy, I think he killed himself.