/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4810689]

How do you differentiate beg/int/adv? I'm new here
Where does pic fall in the spectrum?

[Anonymous No.4810696]

It doesn't matter

[Anonymous No.4810698]

you really can't tell an artist's level from a generic anime headshot.
show his attempts at gesture.

[Anonymous No.4810700]

Philosophically we would slide it into the category of 'Objectivist'... lacks a certain necessary Will To Power.

[Anonymous No.4810701]

>>4810689
>matchstick neck
safely /beg/

[Anonymous No.4810708]

>>4810689
you can be /beg/ at somethings and /int/ at other things, etc. it doesn't matter just draw. the /beg/ threads were started for the same reason the sticky was started, draw threads were filled with people repeating the same beginner questions with the same beginner problems.

[Anonymous No.4810723]

>>4810689
Beg desu, you can tell just from your lines. You either lack confidence in your strokes and chicken scratch alot or you spent barely any time training your hand/arm. both are mostly newbie problems.

[ta-kun No.4810724]

>>4810689
Don't worry about site meta labels.
Just go to the drawthread, you clearly understand that you are drawing 3d objects and not symbols.

[Anonymous No.4810727]

>>4810723
That isn't chicken scratch and that looks like it's on a tiny spot of paper making the use of the wrist very valid.

[Anonymous No.4810734]

>>4810727
It is chicken scratch when you use 6 lines where one would suffice

[Anonymous No.4810738]

>>4810723
Why do so many people on /ic/ just not know what chicken scratching is?

[Anonymous No.4810739]

>>4810734
Stop it

[Anonymous No.4810756]

>>4810723
>muh chicken scratch
Biggest meme out there used by dunning kruger larpers just because they think it sounds "right".
it literally does not matter how many lines you use if you can end on a good result, and artists who are better than 100% of /ic/ do it all the time.
only then they call it "line finding" to save face because they're popular.

[Anonymous No.4810760]

>>4810698
I have this

[Anonymous No.4810820]

>>4810689
int, understands 3d form

[Anonymous No.4810834]

>>4810689
BASED int saber chad

[Anonymous No.4810839]

Int beg based off what you've posted

[Typo No.4810844]

>>4810756
Based I don’t get why I wouldn’t chicken scratch like fuck when I’m gonna end up inking over the sketch anyway which is a completely different motion to sketching. When I place a bunch of lines my brain sort of automatically sees the right one and it makes inking easy

[Anonymous No.4810866]

an “int” is just a delusional /beg/

[Anonymous No.4810873]

>>4810689
>>4810760
Less than 3 months worth of gains until you're fully out of /beg

[Anonymous No.4810883]

>>4810760
Where did you learn gesture?, Those look nice.
And in how many minutes were those poses draw?

[Anonymous No.4810887]

>>4810866
>t. Eternally/beg/

[Anonymous No.4810899]

>>4810689
post a proper pic, AKA a finished artwork and without those book lines.

[Anonymous No.4810911]

>>4810887
ok, newfag
you retarded little nigglets keep coming up with new subdivisions of /beg/ to make yourself feel better about being garbage, see how far that gets you

[Anonymous No.4810912]

>>4810911
>newfag
Sure thing pretend oldfag. You can continue to stay in /beg/ for the next 10 years.

[Anonymous No.4810917]

>>4810912
weak bait, maybe twitter is more your speed

[Anonymous No.4810918]

>>4810883
I think around 1-2min. I watched YouTube videos about figure drawing and applied what felt more natural to me

[Anonymous No.4810920]

>>4810899
I'd rather stay anonymous for now, and that's my sketchbook

[Anonymous No.4810934]

let me clue you in since you’re new
using “int”, “adv” or anything besides /beg/ makes you instantly recognized as a newfag
“int” is a 2019 retarded meme by people too butthurt they couldn’t get out of /beg/
now they’re pushing retarded shit like “high beg”
not that it even matters, the entire board is garbage now, compare draw threads from 2013-2015 to now, it’s literally just another /beg/

[Anonymous No.4810936]

>>4810912
What even is a new fag and old fag, I’ve been on here a pretty long time, like 4 months, what does that make me?

[Anonymous No.4810937]

>>4810934
Quit projecting your frustrations, /beg/tard.

[Anonymous No.4810940]

>>4810689
beg is someone that started
int is someone that is still beg after 6 months
adv is someone that uses his time to crab here
made it is someone just making good artwork often as hobby or is getting paid to make them

[Anonymous No.4810941]

>>4810936
High newfag or low oldfag, depending on how many memes you know.

[Anonymous No.4810949]

>>4810940
>mfw i don’t even draw and i’m considered adv
Based

[Anonymous No.4810955]

>>4810941
Funny Pepe meme frog says Loomis rights, also hard round brush to keep away discord trannies, talent is needed to make proper yellow people jeans, SEEETHE harder or pyw done nig krueger

[Anonymous No.4810960]

>>4810955
mid oldfag confirmed, if you got that far in 4 months you’ll be an ancientfag in no time

[Anonymous No.4811130]

>>4810701
>>4810723
back to /beg/ with you

[Anonymous No.4811135]

>>4811130
>N-NO YOU CAN'T POINT OUT MISTAKES IN THE DRAWING AND TELL ME I AM /beg/ NO YOU ARE /beg/ YOU ARE
/beg/ cope

[Anonymous No.4811138]

>>4810739
>>4810756
Cope.

[Anonymous No.4811143]

>>4811138
not argument.
artists who chicken scratch all the time made it. and you're here crabbin for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.4811153]

>>4810689
This is pretty good anon! May I ask what guides you used?

[Anonymous No.4811174]

>>4810934
Post your work, /low beg/

[Anonymous No.4811177]

>>4811143
>implying I didn’t just drop a fire piece and am working on several more

Feels good to pee into the crab bucket every now and then

[Anonymous No.4811180]

>>4811135
The issue isn't that you pointed something out, it's that it's fucking incoherent and you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
You're like those retarded redliners who to criticise other peoples' drawings without knowing anything about anatomy and embarrass themselves. Pure dunning-Kruger.

[Anonymous No.4811188]

>>4811153
He probably used the first video that showed up on YouTube if you look up "anime facial construction"
Just use any guide and apply it practically and work it daily and you'll make it anon

[Anonymous No.4811193]

>>4811130
Calling someone /beg/ without seeing their work is peak retard

[Anonymous No.4811197]

>>4811177
>larping instead of making an argument
reminder that there is exactly 0 empirical evidence that chicken scratching hinders your drawing in any way and is not some /ic/ meme.

[Anonymous No.4811215]

>larp
Ok

[Anonymous No.4811235]

>>4810756
this isn't a finished piece tho.
>>4810689
OP is asking to judge based on this pic

if wlop posted that picture and said he was done, people would have a field day calling it scratchy garbage.

the real brainlet is OP caring about /beg/ /int/ labels from a bunch of NGMIs

[Anonymous No.4811272]

>>4810920
If you seen on anime artist you seen them all, low post something bullshit study or some shit.

[Anonymous No.4811276]

>>4811193
Nice indignation, now PYW

[Anonymous No.4811286]

>>4811215
>twitter stats
lmao
why are so scared of posting your work when you are butthurt enough to post retarded twitter analyrtics

[Anonymous No.4811292]

>>4811197
it does, you could take less than 0.5 seconds doing one line instead of 2+ seconds chicken scratching. and if you're line searching you multiply each of these by any numbers of lines you usually use to find the right one. so in the long term you'll waste more time with scratching
now go back to /beg/ fucking retard

[Anonymous No.4811297]

>>4811286
My style is too recognizable but you’ve probably liked it.

[Anonymous No.4811300]

>>4811297
firez is that you?

[Anonymous No.4811301]

>>4811297
Not them but how much of a dunning kruger can you be? You're a frog in a well.

[Anonymous No.4811302]

>>4811297
Not him but why wouldn't you post it?
If you're not lying you'd btfo him

[Anonymous No.4811303]

>>4811297
Just post a cropped version you pussy. Besides if it’s sooo recognizable that posting on 4chan could affect you you could just claim it was one of your fans who pretended to be you. But you’re lying so you won’t because you can’t

[Anonymous No.4811304]

>>4811297
Why are nighers so afraid to associate with this site, worst shot could happen is people will think you’re retarded

[Anonymous No.4811306]

>>4811304
What if people don’t want to be seen as retards? I wanted my retardation be kept a secret.

[Anonymous No.4811311]

>>4811292
Wlop does it all the time and still puts out complete pieces at a good cadence.
You also cannot prove that
>take your time to figure out where one line goes
is a shorter process than
>draw 2 lines, then decide which one to keep

keep seething crab.

[Anonymous No.4811317]

>>4811235
Not that anon, I'm the original anon that posted the picture on /ic/ tho.
but this is what the finished looks like, after fucking around the lines enough and changing the pose he decided to paint on it.

[Anonymous No.4811325]

>>4811311
If you get in the habit of figuring out where one line goes, you get faster at it. Scratching is a crutch, and looks like shit and you'll have no hope of working in traditional media competently if you make it a habit. Try selling impromptu 2 minute sketches for $20 a pop with chicken scratch garbage at your next artist alley.

[Anonymous No.4811351]

>>4811297
Yeah, yeah, yeah post a unfinished WIP

[Anonymous No.4811360]

>>4811311
making 1 line is faster than 2 lines, unless you rush the 2 lines but then you could rush 1 line and still be faster with it. it's logical

[Anonymous No.4811483]

>>4811180
Thank you for the motivation anon! So by "apply it practically" you mean by using it with references and such?

[Anonymous No.4811486]

>>4811483
Meant for >>4811188
Sorry!

[Anonymous No.4811622]

>>4811360
That's not the main reason chicken scratching is bad tho. It just looks like shit if you sketch or ink with broken lines. Painting is more forgiving

[Anonymous No.4811685]

>>4810689
Post in /beg/ and see if they want you out.

[Anonymous No.4812115]

>>4811483
Apply it to anything you do. But the most important thing is to understand what the guide is trying to tell you instead of just copying what the guy is doing. Understand the angles and 3D form that make up the face, and how you can use them to create a decent looking one.
Then repeat the guidr until you can make that face or angle from memory.
Once you do that, it feels amazing.
Proper application and daily study will yield improvement fellow SaberCHAD.
I believe in you!

[Anonymous No.4812120]

>>4810701
>matchstick neck
Isn't that almost all of anime even on pro level? More of a style issue if anything.

[Anonymous No.4812122]

>>4811622
there is no chicken scratch in painting, there is filling in the color and brush strokes

[Anonymous No.4812178]

>>4810739
This man. This man is correct.

[Anonymous No.4812187]

>>4811197
Not so much as hindering your drawing but it displays a severe lack of line confidence, which isn't exactly a good thing to show in your drawings.

[Anonymous No.4812191]

>>4810698
How did you get this decent? What fig course?

[Anonymous No.4812196]

>>4812187
It doesn't matter when you're going to paint over it or erase it all together.
all that matters is the end product.

[Anonymous No.4812200]

>>4812196
Fair point. But tb.h I've never seen a good painter do chicken scratching before.

[Anonymous No.4812437]

>>4812122
>there is no chicken scratch in painting

You haven’t seen Brian or Illustrat yet. Good for you.

[Anonymous No.4812443]

>>4812196
OP asked to judge based on his picture. And people do sell sketches. Being a chicken scratcher means you won’t be able to sell one off pen doodles like superani artists.

[Anonymous No.4812633]

>>4810734
It's not chicken scratch you beg. You can
use more than a single line to imply line weight,
foreshortening, different textures, or plain
ol appeal. No rules only tools, now go back
to draw a box

[Anonymous No.4813049]

>>4812115
Thank you so much for the advice Kirei Anon! I'll be sure to try my best to NOT let your words go to waste!

[Anonymous No.4813283]

>>4810689
I’m ultra beg so I would call this int. If I could draw like this I would be very proud of myself.

[Anonymous No.4813288]

>>4810756
No, it's even more retarded. Anons who post shit
chicken scratching for every drawing they see usually can't tell the difference between actual chicken scratch vs finding the line also known as SKETCHING. Maybe people would know better if they spent more time drawing instead of posting on a basket weaving forum

[Anonymous No.4813350]

>>4813288
Watch competent artists “find the line”. You become what you practice. If you practice chicken scratch, it’ll be a part of your workflow.

[Anonymous No.4814172]

>>4811177
Now THAT's cope

[Anonymous No.4814199]

>>4810689
Do you have good skills, but most importantly, can you finish a drawing instead of making everything a sketch? If yes, then you are /adv/.

[Anonymous No.4814208]

This board is so fucking stupid. OP and all the people shitting on him are all retards. I’m a retard for coming to this board instead of drawing. Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.4814209]

>>4810689
>>4810698
lol
no, you can tell from the way OP drew the shawl/mantle or whatever that is that he can't draw bodies well.

lines are okay imo.
there are some other tells like the way you drew the mouth and ears and how the strokes in the facial features in general have less confidence in them.