/beg/ BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.4802310]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done. Anything is okay.

previous thread >>4799067

READ THE STICKY for some guidance:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - preferably ~1000px, <1.1mb

BE ACTIVE AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS - all it takes is a little feedback to give someone a lot of motivation.

Leave no submission un-replied!!!

[Anonymous No.4802319]

[Anonymous No.4802322]

>>4802310

[Anonymous No.4802331]

Should I use Krita, Sai, or drawpile for a poorfag art program

[Anonymous No.4802332]

>>4802331
sai, definitely. drawpile isnt great for non-group art imo.

[Anonymous No.4802333]

>>4802310
male ref for variety

[Anonymous No.4802335]

>>4802310

[Anonymous No.4802339]

>>4802310

[Anonymous No.4802344]

>>4802332
alright, any issues with Krita?

[Anonymous No.4802348]

>>4802344
never used it, but i've heard good things.

[Anonymous No.4802357]

So I at least finished the pencil sketch of the Space marine from last thread. I just have to ink it and tidy it up.

What do you guys think so far? Does the cloth look okay or is it too much?

[Anonymous No.4802367]

>>4802357
It looks like you don't know what your doing and you made a shitty as fuck copy from a better price of art didn't you. Fuck off copy fag.

[Anonymous No.4802369]

>>4802367
I drew it from imagination.

Where do you get off accusing me of copying? Post what you think I "copied" from.

[Anonymous No.4802376]

>>4802357
>>4802369
Shut the fuck up you talentless faggot, go post your shit somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.4802391]

>>4802367
>>4802376
Stop projecting crab
This thread is called /beg/ for a reason

[Anonymous No.4802405]

Boi I suck at painting but the gradient map, layers and eraser at least let me make this sorta interesting to look at.
I still completely failed, the goal was to make a painting from scratch without using lineart

[Anonymous No.4802416]

>>4802405
OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH DESIREEEEEE OOOOOOHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.4802417]

>>4802416
>>4802405
>Kinzo posting on /beg/ while ignoring the family conference

[Anonymous No.4802419]

>>4802405
>>>/n/ot
>>>/g/onna
>>>/m/ake
>>>/i/t

[Anonymous No.4802420]

>>4802405
Looks like you still used lines. I suggest first working with a hard brush that has no pressure sensitivity and get your big, broad shapes down, then go into pressure brushes after. Work big to small.

[Anonymous No.4802423]

>>4802419
>shitting on begs in the beg thread
I have muted nearly 100 threads and now you try and shit up one of the last remaining ones.

[Anonymous No.4802429]

thousands and thousands of 'circles' later and i still cant draw a fucking circle.
fml bros

[Anonymous No.4802432]

when should you really use blending modes why do artist choose blending modes/adjustment layers for shadows and highlights instead of manually doing it

[Anonymous No.4802496]

Im gonna repost it because I got no real answer last thread and the last guy replied to everyone except me.

I have been figure drawing regularly but I'm pretty sure I'm doing it extremely wrong, I don't even know how to tell if Im doing it right due to the timeframes either. I need feedback on what to work on and how to improve.

[Anonymous No.4802514]

>>4802496
I wouldn't say you're doing anything horribly wrong, you're proportions and measurements seem to be pretty good.
However you seem to be mostly following the contour, resulting in weird bumpy areas where you're not sure what the form is doing or just plain timid lines.
I'd say just get more into Form and Gesture.

[Anonymous No.4802521]

>>4802514
How do you get into form?

[Anonymous No.4802529]

>>4802310
Here's my second attempt at the Picasso training thing from the sticky, second drawing since I was 8. He looks less mongoloid than my first try.

[Anonymous No.4802564]

>>4802514
I got into keys to drawing so I mostly attempt to draw what I see. As you mentioned I don't know how to draw that which I cannot see. Is there a material you recommend that treats the topic of form properly?

[Anonymous No.4802599]

>>4802496
You're doing good, just read/watch Huston after Keys to drawing.

[Anonymous No.4802640]

I made this rough sketch today
Messing with depth and proportion
I know shading can help with it
Any tips for me guys?

[Anonymous No.4802661]

>>4802521
>>4802564
Yeah I really recommend glenn vilppu.
"the vilppu drawing manual" is pretty good but he also has a whole video-course that essentially goes over everything he talks about in the book, that should still be available in the video-course-Thread if you don't wanna pay for it.
He goes through box form, cylindrical forms, constuction, overlapping Forms and then starts on Anatomy.
He has a serious case of rambling, wheezing old man voice tho, so I thought his book was generally easier to follow.
Also while he's no doubt skilled sometimes his drawings are unappealing as shit and have the same jarring quality as some of those weird classical baby-paintings.
Apart from Vilppu, Micheal hampton is also great.
Proko should also have some content, I mean he get's shit on a lot but it's sort of fine really.

[Anonymous No.4802863]

The anon who replied to everyone forgot about me

[Anonymous No.4802868]

>>4802863
maybe you're int

[Anonymous No.4802869]

>>4802429
Brent Evinston.

[Anonymous No.4802870]

>>4802868
Not at all

[Anonymous No.4802906]

>>4802863
Maybe you had already gotten some feedback?

[Anonymous No.4802925]

Hi /ic/, first attempt at a portrait without loomis I got tired of it and instead tried to look attentively at the faces around me. Biggest problem is the lips, can't get the curvature right.

[Anonymous No.4802928]

>>4802868
Did you draw this? If yes props to you.

[Anonymous No.4802933]

just quick sketch but thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4802957]

Drawings of stuff I found scrolling through Pinterest. Anyone know of good resources for animal anatomy? Books courses videos etc

[Anonymous No.4802968]

[Anonymous No.4802982]

[Anonymous No.4802987]

>>4802933
That's ok. But you need to get the perspective right. Your sketch looks like if the model was viewed through a modeling software (in isometric view). Try to get the center of perspective to the chest and draw lines going up and down for the axes.

[Anonymous No.4802991]

>>4802987
yeha i should of done that, his left foot as well is like ducking in when it should be coming out i spent more time on this one >>4802982
and it came out a lot better imo, its a little bit contour though and i didnt fully feel the form

[Anonymous No.4803021]

>>4802529
Looks good anon. I would move on from the exercise now though, you don't want to sit and grind. Go do some Loomis.

[Anonymous No.4803080]

So I want to get into digital art to draw with my friends at a higher level. Everyone says do traditional to start, but I notice when I do this its hard to do both (draw with friends on tablet while drawing traditional for exercise sketches). I feel like I'm trying to learn two opposing methods at the same time and its fucking with me. Is it really not advisable to just draw digitally instead of traditional for learning?

[Anonymous No.4803113]

If you don't use these brushes you're wasting your time.

[Anonymous No.4803120]

>>4802529
That's good enough, start Keys to Drawing.

[Anonymous No.4803188]

day 2 of digital studies, I'm not sure how this is going to help build confidence when I can't draw a straight line or come close to it for the life of me.

[Anonymous No.4803230]

What's up, I've been doing some copies from /hr/ photos that I found interesting using the Loomis method. Any feedback or recommendation is appreciated (I know my lines have to be clearer)

[Anonymous No.4803514]

>>4803080
I think learning digitally is okay if that's the way you're going draw most of the time. Everyone says you should start traditionally though.

[Anonymous No.4803518]

>>4803188
how is this possible? just sweep with your shoulder across, are you doing a line for like 1 minute straight or something? just sweep it should take under a second, max two

[Anonymous No.4803521]

>>4803188
find a comfortable position and make a line, usually diagonal line for most people

[Anonymous No.4803526]

>>4803518
i don't know, its taking me roughly 5 seconds a line, I'm trying to alternate sensitivity to givve a more "zebra" apperance
>>4803521
comfortable seating position? I usually sit with my legs cross, but I tried with my feet on the ground

[Anonymous No.4803531]

>>4803526
if youre practising straight lines dont do no sensitivity shit, focus on getting clean lines first, and hes means comfortable more with upper body, youre thinking to much about it as i said just sweep with shoulder/elbow

[Anonymous No.4803535]

[Anonymous No.4803536]

>>4803531
alright, i was following https://youtu.be/NBE-RTFkXDk?t=112 for trying to get used to drawing on a tablet since I've been drawing on a sketchbook for a couple months now.

[Anonymous No.4803538]

Art commentary by my 8 year old son on this "piece"

"That looks like ketchup. Or that pasta sauce you made with cheese" LOL

[Anonymous No.4803540]

>>4803535

Also I have to post more art commentary by my son. On "Bedlam" he simply said "...is this 'art'"? LOL

[Anonymous No.4803546]

>>4803538

And yea it was supposed to be a firestorm about the size of the surface of the sun

[Anonymous No.4803547]

>>4803514
I know they do, I never learned why, I assumed they dont' want anons buying expensive tablets and giving up within a month, but if my tablet was handed to me by a friend because he got a new one, so I'm wondering what holds bad digital artists more than traditional when learning fundies

[Anonymous No.4803553]

>>4802599
>>4802661
Thank you for the information kind anons

[Anonymous No.4803573]

>>4802322
Did i get it right?
Am i even close?

[Anonymous No.4803574]

>>4803573
where's the gap under the butt

[Anonymous No.4803578]

>>4803536
well use a brush with actual pressure, the difference between your thin and fat parts is tiny

[Anonymous No.4803583]

>>4802405
>>4802416
>>4802417
I'm kind of surprised how much Umineko I see on /ic/

[Anonymous No.4803582]

>>4802376
t. crab

[Anonymous No.4803589]

>>4802339
Tried to draw in the style of Jung Gi this time but it kinda turned into a Keys to drawing type of exercise, loosely drawing contours and finding the shapes within the body.

[Anonymous No.4803591]

>>4803574
I must have accidentally covered it while shading
Thats embarising

[Anonymous No.4803609]

HOW DO I DRAW HAIR ARGHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.4803618]

>>4803609
find a pencil/charcoal drawing and analyze it

[Anonymous No.4803640]

tried breaking it up

[Anonymous No.4803696]

>>4803188
Use your shoulder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAtmiQgW6As
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gozJINuk1Mw
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/9/ghosting

[Anonymous No.4803711]

>>4803696
that is my shoulder, I've got a fucked up shoulder from an incident that happened years ago now its a bit stiff/harder to control

[Anonymous No.4803722]

[Anonymous No.4803747]

Ive been doing doodles for few days now and i kinda start to feel comfortable with a pencil
Should i jump directly into keys to drawing or fuck around for more?

[Anonymous No.4803761]

>>4803747
if you're happy doing fundies continue learning more, if burnout then fuck around

[Anonymous No.4803810]

Is getting a subscription to New Masters Academy worth it? I just can't find any other in depth videos for free online or ones to pirate, and I want to go through Steve Huston's full course.

[Anonymous No.4803816]

>>4803810
Huston's course is in the video thread

[Anonymous No.4803817]

Why do people keep recommending villapu and is his stuff worth paying for

[Anonymous No.4803820]

>>4802310
Wow, my arts the thread pic, Thank you.

[Anonymous No.4803832]

>>4803816
Oh fuck didn't see that, thanks bro

[Anonymous No.4803874]

I think im finally improving. I'm glad I decided to get into DAD, I thought about quitting but stuck through. 8 days in and I feel more confident. Started going more reference instead of just imagination and it's done me good. Tried drawing zone about 5 days ago and it was ass, so I decided to try again. Huge fan of ZONE-Sama, so here's to them.

[Anonymous No.4803901]

How can I improve this?

[Anonymous No.4803921]

I know it's a lot to ask for someone a /beg/ as me but can someone give me some tips or maybe a redline. I'm trying to learn to draw from imagination and I can't seem to improve.

[Anonymous No.4803926]

>>4803874
It's a good start anon, you should try looking up about how to improve line quality. You will see that varying the "thickness" of your line will add a lot of depth to your drawing. Right now it looks a bit flat.

[Anonymous No.4803941]

>>4803921
Two options
1. Use a reference instead of floundering around.
2. Master anatomy. Learn construction. Go to quickpose and croquis cafe and grind for years.

[Anonymous No.4803963]

[Anonymous No.4803966]

Would really appreciate feedback on values, been having a hard time with it and don't really know if I'm doing this correctly.

Also shitty camera somehow made the values lighter.

[Anonymous No.4803969]

>>4803966
This is the reference

[Anonymous No.4803973]

>>4803966
Honestly its just pushing your values further thos darks can go darker. The hand in particular has some mid tones in that should really be extremely white highlights when you consider that is the brightest par of the piece, and they need to show as highlights meaning the surrounding tissue should be darker. I suggest running that reference through a greyscale filter to see what those colours translate to if you still cant see it.

[Anonymous No.4803975]

>>4802344
not great for lower end gpus or cpus. i assume you have both but if you have 45$ to spare then go for sai

[Anonymous No.4803983]

>>4803966
>>4803969
Great rendering, focus more on these small hidden shapes, " how far is this object away from this object"

[Anonymous No.4803998]

>>4803973
Thanks anon, yeah I can see it. I just kinda lack the confidence to push for darker values for some reason, feels like if I go too far I'm gonna fuck up the whole thing. I will keep doing more studies

>>4803983
I appreciate it and I agree. To be honest I was rushing through the construction because it was intended for it to be a value study, but yeah I shouldn't do any part of it sloppily.

[Anonymous No.4804020]

I've done boxes today and now Im not sure what to "do". I was practicing gesture drawing yesterday, but maybe that's not what I should be doing. Any advice for an aimless beg?

[Anonymous No.4804034]

>>4803926
Yeah, I'll definitely start trying more things in dynamics. I wanted to get very basic things down first which im still working on. Thanks for the advice anon

[Anonymous No.4804038]

>>4804020
drawing anything is better than none, mix it up, doesnt always have to be fundies just go find a fun reference that inspires you and draw it

[Anonymous No.4804072]

>>4804038
but all I've learned from the last 5 days of study is i dont know absolute shit about how to draw anything

[Anonymous No.4804173]

>>4802405
Feels good going back to lineart, I think I can make good things easier

>Friends are saying that painting is one of my best pieces just because they prefer the realism over my usual 2D girls

Useless... it's completeLY USeLeSS UUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.4804237]

I posted the sketch before, this is the final product

[Anonymous No.4804243]

>>4804237
The heavy use of airbrush is really evident which kinda contrast with the cell shading. If thats your "style its w.e. Also that human should Have Higher saturation than the background since he's closer to the viewer unless you're going for a blurred focus. That said his proportions on the left or completely off from the right .

[Anonymous No.4804260]

suggestions b4 doing my line?

[Anonymous No.4804262]

>>4803874
learn to lineweight nigga

[Anonymous No.4804266]

So um I figured I would suck up and try to make my style a bit more cutesy/anime because that stuff does better online :/ but I'm really not liking how I rendered her tentacles. Does anyone have some general critique but more specifically how to make more shiney/jelly like surfaces? Maybe what brush to use?

[Anonymous No.4804270]

>>4804266
I'm more focused on her hand, it looks a bit off. Also, im boutta bust

[Anonymous No.4804278]

>>4804266
N

[Anonymous No.4804279]

>>4804262
Babysteps anon, babysteps

[Anonymous No.4804280]

>>4804237
I think the purple shading on her looks great, but the rest of the environment dosnt match it at all. Even though I see some anatomy issues, especially around the feet, shoulders/arms and those tail spikes look a bit flat, those things can be easily ignored once if the dragon charecter fit better into her enviroment. She looks like she's in a dim room, but it's super bright in there and the human guy in front of her has a completely different light source from her. Also the perspective of the rooms a bit off, but I think you did great rendering that.

[Anonymous No.4804290]

>>4804270
Yea I rushed that hand rlly fast and now looking at it it definitely looks janked lol

[Anonymous No.4804298]

is doing warmup pages like this from draw a box before i start drawing / practicing a good idea or a waste of time

[Anonymous No.4804310]

>>4804298
I don't know, you tell me.
You're the one who did it.

[Anonymous No.4804316]

>>4804310
fuck... it seems so simple but you blew my mind.

[Anonymous No.4804333]

I wanna say I'm ok with my first time, but this is the 6th one I drew this week and it took 4 hours, I can't perceive the fine angles and compare lengths at all, I'm gonna burn out before I get past /ic/s first lesson. Should I just move on or work on something to make these better, it looks almost like a wojak ffs

[Anonymous No.4804435]

Posting today's work

I still don't know how to use copic properly, but I liked the results

[Anonymous No.4804436]

>>4804435

[Anonymous No.4804438]

>>4804436

[Anonymous No.4804439]

>>4804438
last one

[Anonymous No.4804448]

>>4804266
To make it look wetter just increase the contrast in general both dark places and the light places. After that you can add more and brighter highlight spots at the light places to hammer home the reflected light. adding darker spots sweat drops also helps becasue it still casts a shadow on the skin besides reflecting the light sources.

Memes aside I only used hard round brush for the overpaint on this.

[Anonymous No.4804453]

>>4803589
It doesn't look like KGJ stuff IMO, but still really nice! I liked the way you did the shading a lot. I think the line weight needs some improvement tho, specially on the legs

[Anonymous No.4804460]

Spent too much time on this
Any advice?

[Anonymous No.4804465]

Tried the rotate box exercise today for the first time... holy shit this thing does not fuck around. every tiny mistake compounds itself until the outside form exaggerates it to the point of ruin. god damn. fuck.

[Anonymous No.4804467]

>>4804438
I love this one, you make feathers look easy

[Anonymous No.4804478]

>>4804465
This is why I hate drawabox. Yes, this can help you internalize the visualization of boxes in space and how they turn but you will NEVER need to be able to pull this off perfectly (mostly because boxes don't actually fit like that together). So even with the mistakes you've made, call it done and move on. People get stuck on drawabox trying to grind the steps to perfection but it's a useless task that's eating time from more important skills you might be learning.

[Anonymous No.4804488]

>>4802322
I noticed my own issues, managed to correct some but others are very evident
legs are too short, the left arm is on the wrong position, too close to the body, look at the negative space. Right arm is closer but still not working, hips are hard, but the short legs is the biggest mistake on here.
My line work is dubious, trying to build on top of soft lines, darkening and darkening but my line searching is messy, I need to observe the reference more carefully by practicing Keys over and over.

[Anonymous No.4804494]

>>4804478
I get that it shouldn't be perfect, but I'm still really struggling with straight lines

[Anonymous No.4804495]

>>4804435
Are you going through a specific curriculum or lesson?

[Anonymous No.4804506]

>>4804465
if you feel bad look at my first and only attempt

[Anonymous No.4804521]

>>4804506
but that looks great anon?

[Anonymous No.4804557]

Here's some more practice. As usual, any input would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4804605]

Any crit is greatly needed

Also if someone can point me in the direction of a korean woman in top-down lighting, I'd appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4804619]

I don't know where else to post and I don't want to look at this anymore

[Anonymous No.4804624]

>>4804605
wait have you been doing these from imagination????

[Anonymous No.4804667]

>>4802928
It's from a bara artist, 8°. His muscle quality is really something else

[Anonymous No.4804718]

>>4804448
WoW! That looks great anon thank you so much for the overpaint and critique it helps alot :))

[Anonymous No.4804887]

Why do I even bother drawing? Im so dogshit even when I try to copy/

[Anonymous No.4804895]

I'm so dogshit even when I copy.

[Anonymous No.4804900]

>>4804072
>but all I've learned from the last 50 days of study is i dont know absolute shit about how to draw anything

>but all I've learned from the last 500 days of study is i dont know absolute shit about how to draw anything

>but all I've learned from the last 5000 days of study is i dont know absolute shit about how to draw anything

you will think the same thing every time you 'level' up in art, the more you know the more you realise you dont know, just draw anon dont dwell

[Anonymous No.4804904]

The more I stare at this copy the more issue appear to crop up the problem is I cant identify them.

[Anonymous No.4805024]

slowly transitioning from drawing to painting, but lines still haunt me

[Anonymous No.4805055]

[Anonymous No.4805060]

>>4804488
Its helpful to draw a skeleton first
Its harder to fuck up lengths that way

[Anonymous No.4805070]

>>4803810
i have one and it is worth it

[Anonymous No.4805072]

[Anonymous No.4805082]

>>4804460
pelvis/lower torso look like they could use some work in their construction (he's not really sitting on the stool it looks like)
the forearms are very bowed
i like the facial features a lot though especially the ears

[Anonymous No.4805085]

>>4804467
Thank you! Although in that one I think I got out of hand a bit, I found out that it's better if you just indicate the feathers instead of trying to texture it too much. >>4804436 turned out better IMO. Pic related has more details.

>>4804495
I'm using the stuff I learned in Dynamic Sketching, but I'm not following something specific.

[Anonymous No.4805131]

>lol dude just draw shit with high margin for error
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22XYoenU-0c
>dude just draw for fun
>lmao it doesn't have to be a 1 for 1 copy
wtf bros he was right
it's almost like you should trust industry experts

[Anonymous No.4805142]

>>4805131
the new draw a box, but with roots!

[Anonymous No.4805155]

>>4805142
at least fz isn't a poo in the loo who apes courses taught by actual talent

[Anonymous No.4805160]

>>4802333
will somebody help him up??

[Anonymous No.4805168]

>>4805160
kek

[Anonymous No.4805169]

>>4803609
>With Outlines
Draw the hair in "chunks" that wrap around the head. Give the chunks a bit of volume to avoid looking like a painted scalp.

>Painterly/No Outlines
Draw in chunks in your sketch layer, and use value to define the shapes. Softer shadows, harsher highlights that show texture.

[Anonymous No.4805171]

I'm drawing Izanagi from persona 4 (and Yu, the prota, but he isn't finished yet). It's my second digital drawing, the first one isn't even completed because I didn't know how to use the software, then I decided to surrender. However, I really wanted to try and I made the decision to change and adapt to a new software, then I studied it from about two months

[Anonymous No.4805174]

>>4802405
Here you go Anon, do not give it up. You can do this continue it.

[Anonymous No.4805175]

>>4805171
not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4805195]

dynamic figures are hard

[Anonymous No.4805201]

>>4805195
swallow the gesture meme pill

[Anonymous No.4805208]

>>4805174
>that filename
Anon.... I

[Anonymous No.4805215]

>>4805060
It's not yet finished and a skeleton? That sounds hard, how to do it?

[Anonymous No.4805224]

>>4805195
Not as hard as my dick, anon, but yeah. I love doing dynamic poses training because they let me know that I'm not as good as I thought

[Anonymous No.4805246]

>>4804333
Not even trips can give me a response, I'll just move onto keys or something next

[Anonymous No.4805250]

>>4805215
Before you start drawing do something like that. Just to get lenghts and angles right
Then draw actual body over it and erase the skelly because it served its purpose

[Anonymous No.4805257]

>>4805246
its ok anon the past six things ive posted on here havent got any replies. i personally dont think you should grind in this way if youre finding it boring and frustrating. For measuring and angles check out dorian itens accuracy guide, its free and the stuff in there is always useful to keep in mind

[Anonymous No.4805261]

>>4805257
Thanks, i'll take a look at dorian's after work

[Anonymous No.4805270]

I can't even copy right. Also if you look at anime faces long enough you realise how weird they are

[Anonymous No.4805295]

>>4804453
Thank you, anon. I tried to make the area around the head the focus point, that's why I only added weight over there, but I probably could have added more variation on the entire figure without losing the focal point. Thanks for the feedback, anon!

[Anonymous No.4805301]

>>4805270
ngmi

[Anonymous No.4805308]

>>4805301
Tbh I know

[Anonymous No.4805311]

would like to know what you guys think about this piece.

[Anonymous No.4805312]

>>4805270
I like the eyes

[Anonymous No.4805313]

>>4805250
Will do, how can I improve faster? am I doing ok? should I finish that one?

[Anonymous No.4805323]

Started painting 6 months ago for shits and gigs. This is my first attempt at a real place/landscape, McPherson farm at the Gettysburg battlefield. Thoughts? Still working on creating depth and blending colors. Acrylic on canvas

[Anonymous No.4805410]

>>4805270
Her belly looks weird, it's looks like those loose skin that ex-obese people have. The perspective of the hips seems to be wrong too, draw a box there to check it. The chin and nose are pointing too much to the left, remember to draw your centerlines properly. Be more confident with your lines, the eyes are not too bad but they're too messy. And I know this is hard, I suffer with it myself, but try not to rener or detail your drawings before it's properly constructed, it's tempting because we want to know if it will look good as quickly as possible, but be patient. She looks cute tho, draw it again while trying to fix those mistakes and you will learn a lot, good luck and have fun.

>>4805295
No problem, anon. The eyes are the natural focus point for us humans, so you shouldn't sweat about it too much in this case.

>>4805311
The way the torso flows into the hips are weird, making her waist look too thin, and the buttocks are too low. I know this is an stylization but, no offense, it seems to me that you struggle with figure drawing and are just coping out by not drawing the contours. Draw a full body sketch first on a separate layer, even when you want to do minimalist stuff like this, so the structure can be well defined.

[Anonymous No.4805439]

was practicing heads while listening to kenji kawai and decided to turn it into Ghost in the shell fanart.
taking a short break before inking it. any criticism appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4805440]

>>4805323
i dont want to be mean. ive created some abominations with paint also. paint the colors you see, not what you think is there.

[Anonymous No.4805444]

>>4805440
>symbol painting
this is a new one

[Anonymous No.4805492]

>>4805270
it looks fine but don't if you're drawing anime you're better off not drawing the lips

[Anonymous No.4805497]

>>4805439
looking good

[Anonymous No.4805498]

[Anonymous No.4805517]

my inspiration juice has dried out

[Anonymous No.4805528]

>>4805517
I like the forms and the colors, make it sharper.

[Anonymous No.4805547]

has anyone actually escaped /beg/hell? Seems like we are stuck forever

[Anonymous No.4805565]

I started 4 months ago
any tips with hands and feet?

[Anonymous No.4805572]

>>4805547
The moment more than 5 people tell you to "get out of beg" is when you know you're good to go, still post here because there you get better critique and I can also give some

[Anonymous No.4805596]

>>4805547
>>4805572
To go one step further, you know you've made it when people dedicate themselves to shiting on you. One day I hope to have my own personal crabs.

[Anonymous No.4805619]

>>4804619
Looks good

[Anonymous No.4805625]

>>4805565
To draw anything you have to understand its basic geometric structure (feet= triangle/ rectangle with a ball for the heel) and then build the visible anatomy on top of it (for feet it'd be toes, bumps on the ankle caused by tendons and bone). Same applies to hands, cars and whatever

[Anonymous No.4805636]

>>4802925
First of all use reference. If you're having trouble trace the loomis thing over the ref and replicate it.
You're drawing a symbolic representation of the mouth, instead think of it as an actual 3D form with volume. Lips are like 2 cylinders that merge with the face at the corners

[Anonymous No.4805644]

>>4805311
i like it

[Anonymous No.4805653]

>>4803230
The proportions look pretty good. Yoy may want to:
- add some more tone/shading + add darker values to define form better
- use less ines for wrinkles and smooth transitions like the nose bridge in front angle.

[Anonymous No.4805715]

I know the hairline on the arthoe is wrong but why do they both look retarded?

[Anonymous No.4805721]

>>4803711
Then use your elbow.

[Anonymous No.4805729]

>>4805715
>why do they both look retarded?
because they are both literally making that stereotypical retard/downsyndrom face.

[Anonymous No.4805742]

>>4805729
Can you post your face so I can study it and work on my new hidden talent for drawing retards?

[Anonymous No.4805780]

>>4805715
symbol drawing

[Anonymous No.4805783]

I tried one minute gestures.
They look like mess to me.

[Anonymous No.4805788]

>>4805783
part 2

[Anonymous No.4805792]

>>4805783
>>4805788
in most cases you're doing the silhouette and not the gesture

[Anonymous No.4805797]

>>4805439
Nice

[Anonymous No.4805801]

Why do most art tutorials take 20 minutes to tell you something that can be done in 1? Like do you really need all that time when essentially all you are saying is "feel the form" or "look for the curves".

[Anonymous No.4805803]

>>4805792
Which ones are semi correct?

[Anonymous No.4805806]

>>4805801
i don't know the exact details, but youtube/adsense prefers that content creators make 10 minute videos because that's what advertisers want
nobody is actually trying to teach you on that platform, it's garbage
books are far more sincere in those goals

[Anonymous No.4805810]

>>4805742
sure thing

[Anonymous No.4805812]

>>4805810
i'm fapping to this right now, please send help

[Anonymous No.4805819]

I can’t really tell what exactly, but something about this just looks really off to me, I just can’t seem to get any poses right.

[Anonymous No.4805826]

>>4805810
wait, wait, wait.... hold your horses... uhm... YOU'RE A FEMANON?!!?! O_O Not to be a freak, but.. just when I thought you couldn't get more attractive.. you started browsing 4chan. Nicely done, m'lady. You've just become every man's dream woman. If you had missed a couple before, now you can be sure you've got us ALL "drooling", lol.

[Anonymous No.4805828]

>>4805803
you want to look at the gesture and understand what they're doing. for example, in the first picture, second to last position, the girl looks like she's maybe kicking down a door? but in the image she's clearly just pointing her toes into his chest. it's a different gesture with different meaning.

also, pay more attention to negative spaces e.g. first picture, third from last, girl doing hand stand, look at the distance of the head to the leg

[Anonymous No.4805830]

>>4805819
/beg/ here.

Your chicken scratch is on the next level.

[Anonymous No.4805837]

Hey /ic/, ultra beg here and first post. I've been loomising for like the last two weeks or so, but today I decided to take a break from that and draw a zergling because they've been winning me some SC2 games recently.

Not really looking for advice, but I had a lot of fun drawing it, and it kind of renewed my motivation to improve, so I thought I would share. Cheers.

[Anonymous No.4805840]

>>4805837
Damn, that’s pretty good anon, keep it up!

[Anonymous No.4805846]

>>4805819
it looks like you're making the volumes larger, overcompensating, to make the curves more defined and make it closer to the symbols you have stored in your head, does that make sense? in other words, the anatomy is wrong. for example, look at her foot that is closest to the bottom of the screen (right foot i guess?). where is the side plane to the foot? in your drawing, the heel and top of the foot blend together.

[Anonymous No.4805849]

>>4805837
Looks flat. Use construction with simplified 3d forms.

[Anonymous No.4805853]

>>4805837
won't give advice since that's what you requested
stay motivated and hope your day is good
cheers

[Anonymous No.4805862]

>>4805846
Hmm I think I see what you mean, The anatomy does look really off now that I take a closer look

[Anonymous No.4805885]

>>4805862
maybe see if you can draw primitives on another layer at low opacity to correct the perspective?
don't be discouraged, you're doing a great job

[Anonymous No.4805890]

>>4805885
Yeah I’m trying that, gonna draw some perspective lines (I think that’s what they’re called) too to see if that helps, and thanks!

[Anonymous No.4805940]

[Anonymous No.4805942]

>>4805940
i used reference on this im disgusting and ive let myself, my family and all of beg down

[Anonymous No.4805949]

http://referenceangle.com/

this site is fucking magic and i demand its added to the sticky, you move the 3d head in the top left corner and search

[Anonymous No.4805960]

>>4805949
Awesome stuff, thanks for sharing

[Anonymous No.4806069]

>>4805940
>>4805942
Working from reference is not bad, you should do it more often.

[Anonymous No.4806070]

>>4805715
Women look womanly because they have more fat under their skin. The art hoe has a square jaw and not enough cheek padding.

Guy has a huge cranium.

Both have bug eyes. Learn how to close their eyes.

[Anonymous No.4806076]

So been drawing for 3 months now and a friend of mine gifted me one of his tablet that he doesnt use (the ones without display). If i use the tablet to study drawing will the skills translate to paper? Was thinking in using the tablet to put paint and do colors since paints where i live are really expensive. Thanks

[Anonymous No.4806095]

>>4806076
yes, drawing on paper is easier so it will translate to trad if you study using your tablet

[Anonymous No.4806097]

>>4805940
i can tell you're looking at a reference which is a good practice
if not, the right eye would have probably been visible which is a classic mistake
volume of the cranium looks nice, isn't overstated, maybe a little flat on top
i'm not sure you're giving much attention to the volume in the other areas. for example, i think the right eyebrow might be too large
also work on the contour of the chin
keep up the good work, what does 57 mean? have a good day

[Anonymous No.4806098]

>>4805715
try drawing a woman instead of a tranny next time

[Anonymous No.4806100]

>>4806076
fundies are named that for a reason :)
have a good day

[Anonymous No.4806108]

>>4806069
i do i just dont post them, drawing from reference is a lot easier obviously, i just struggle with drawing from imagination which is why im doing this whole thing


>>4806097
thanks for the feedback anon, 57 is the day, im drawing a face from imagination daily, but today i was a little naughty and drew some inspiration from a photo

[Anonymous No.4806125]

>>4806076
I think drawing digitally is easier. Have been doing so for 6 months, last week I tried to draw on paper and sucked at it. I was drawing from observation, though, maybe that had something to do with it. Just practice on both mediums.

[Anonymous No.4806127]

>>4806098
That looks like a teenage boy in drag

[Anonymous No.4806145]

>>4806098
name?

[Anonymous No.4806177]

>>4806098
>Trannytrice 2

[Anonymous No.4806187]

>>4806127
is it a crime to jerk off to smol kids on duckduckgo images?

[Anonymous No.4806220]

Why does using an eraser is bad when learning to draw? seen people saying that but they never explain why.

[Anonymous No.4806233]

>>4806220
because begs will never get something right, so in theory you'll be erasing the same drawing for a very long time to get it right.
if you don't erase you'll finish the drawing faster, get the feedback from it by seeing what went wrong and move on to another drawing

[Anonymous No.4806303]

>>4806220
Because you need to learn line confidence. Over reliance on your eraser in the long run in a detriment to getting nice confident lines.This is also the reason as to why you should not chicken scratch aside from how ugly it looks when you do.

[Anonymous No.4806314]

>>4806220
It's not bad. Don't listen to >>4806233
>>4806303. It's very difficult to get a line in exactly the right place the first time. Artists doing Bargue plates erase constantly.

[Anonymous No.4806331]

just random sketches for today

[Anonymous No.4806339]

>>4805439
it's done. i put alot of effort into it. I made a few mistakes especially in the upper right corner that i wish i could fix but oh well, that's ink for ya.

[Anonymous No.4806375]

>>4806339
Very cool anon. Reminds me of Yoshitaka Amano's style.

[Anonymous No.4806391]

>>4806375
Thanks man.
I get compared to amano alot even though i never really studied him nor is he my main inspiration. is this a good or a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.4806398]

>>4806391
I mean i can see the resemblance but you're clearly not an outright copy cat and amano is a great artist. i'd say it's a good thing. you keep doing you.

[Anonymous No.4806401]

>>4802310
So, are the Loomis books any good or are they just a meme?

[Anonymous No.4806404]

>>4806331
Which author teaches that kind of construction?

[Anonymous No.4806408]

>>4806401
why else would it be a meme? you think its just randomly chosen? the method is the basis of all head drawings yes its good, if pic related is you then i highly suggest you read it, you dont even have to read the book ffs just go watch the proko video, and stop drawing anime shit

[Anonymous No.4806427]

>>4806401
Loomis is good, and I know I’ll sound like an ass for saying this, but learn the fundies first.

[Anonymous No.4806449]

What are fundies, just drawing what you see?

[Anonymous No.4806457]

>>4806449
learning proper construction, then drawing what you see using that construction.

[Anonymous No.4806459]

Got this in just under 2 hours. I had a time limit and wanted to see what I could get done. The result is Ranger Tabes from We Bear Bears. I tried shifting my attention mostly on how to try and create shadows and shading based on perspective. I wouldve liked to try and see if I could've gotten any highlights on the skin but it is what it is. I still need to work on line weight and learning how to utilize multiple pen sizes.

[Anonymous No.4806470]

>>4806457
don't you construct what you see?

[Anonymous No.4806473]

>>4806408
>>4806427
Okay, thanks for the advice

[Anonymous No.4806476]

>>4806470
Yes. but alot of people don't know that's how you're supposed to do it. so they get told to learn fundies.

[Anonymous No.4806490]

>>4802310
How the fuck do you draw hair highlights

[Anonymous No.4806528]

>>4806449
Read sticky

[Anonymous No.4806533]

Anyone have a suggestion for starting bodies? I've seen a great improvement in my heads from studying eyes, mouths and noses. But I don't want to overdo that and end up just focusing on it. I think now is a good time for me to move onto something else, bodies seem good. Then maybe hands and feet.

[Anonymous No.4806537]

>>4804478
I think that he do tell you to just do the best you can and them move on, and not keeping redoing it over and over.

[Anonymous No.4806579]

I tried some caricature for fun.

is this recognizable at all? I have a hard time capturing the likeness.

[Anonymous No.4806580]

>>4806579
here is the reference

[Anonymous No.4806589]

Trying to learn ideal female proportions by drawing cartoons.

[Anonymous No.4806615]

>>4806579
You're symbol drawing.

[Anonymous No.4806620]

>>4806615
No he isn't. He's misplaced the features and drawn them wrong.
>>4806579
Try drawing his features exactly as you see them, and place them correctly, but exaggerate the sizes of each feature larger or smaller.

[Anonymous No.4806627]

>>4806620
yes he did faggot. you don't know what symbol drawing means if you look at those eyes and tell me that isnt symbol drawing.

[Anonymous No.4806643]

HE'S GETTING HIS KNIFE

[Anonymous No.4806645]

>>4806589
Fug

[Anonymous No.4806646]

>>4806645
Who's this

[Anonymous No.4806647]

>>4806646
Princess Katharine from Gargoyles

[Anonymous No.4806682]

Am I'm attempting more than I should for being a beginner?
I don't know enough to even know what I should be asking for in a critique.

[Anonymous No.4806685]

I'm growing increasingly disillusioned with the Loomis method. As I apply it to photographs and drawings I increasingly find that the "ball" part of his method doesn't match up with what most head look like and what most artists draw.

[Anonymous No.4806760]

tried the organic perspective exercise today. it feels like I'm kind of getting it but I didn't realize boxes would be so hard fuck. You guys that have more than an hour or two a day to practice on weekdays are so lucky.

[Anonymous No.4806764]

>>4806682
Try break down even more if you're too beg.
Like focus on just one aspect now.
Draw the whole head shape out, or focus on studying eyes.
Doing the whole thing is only good when you studied each details.

[Anonymous No.4806768]

>>4806682
I think you should learn perspective first. Try perspective made easy by norling

[Anonymous No.4806772]

>>4806768
Explain how perspective would help.

[Anonymous No.4806774]

>>4806772
the spheres don't look like spheres, you need to know perspective to make stuff look 3d

[Anonymous No.4806787]

>>4806768
I'll check it out, thanks.
>>4806764
That makes sense, I'll try to break down days into trying different aspects then.

[Anonymous No.4806824]

>>4804173
Normies are retarded, this is definitely better than that painting

[Anonymous No.4806829]

I have just now started practicing gesture/figure drawing, and these are the first of many. Am I doing it right? I’m not asking if it’s good, but if I’m on the right track. The third one stands out to me as the best but I think it’s the best original picture as well. The others were clothed, or like in the second one, didn’t show the whole body so it’s harder for me to portray.

To add to that, is it important to only pick “good” photos for reference? Or should I just do every single one, regardless of how dynamic it is or isn’t?

[Anonymous No.4806832]

>>4806829
Forgot to save the first but it was two dudes jumping, just did one of them. This is the second one, and I don’t wanna spam but I can post the reference for the third if need be.

[Anonymous No.4806839]

>>4806829
When you're just starting with it, it's best to use nude refs where you can see the full body. It's a lot harder to portray a gesture without knowing which leg bears more weight, for example. As always I recommend Hampton's figure drawing lessons.

[Anonymous No.4806855]

>>4806839
A beginner friend took the picture of the third reference and did this to it. Along with posting this video. You don’t have to watch it, but what are your thoughts on doing it like this? I feel like it’s lazy and doesn’t show action but we’re both /beg/ so I’d like your thoughts on his/my style of doing the same pic

https://youtu.be/c_9EYf2yMH0

[Anonymous No.4806859]

>>4806855
thats not where the things are tho just by looking at it

[Anonymous No.4806885]

trying to study drawing heads from hampton videos, do these placements look right? is studying heads too advanced when you're /beg/?

[Anonymous No.4806899]

>>4804260
Arms are too short

[Anonymous No.4806902]

>>4806855
Yours is definitely more expressive. His is just sloppy and he traced it over the pic and didn't learn anything from it. Gesture is about analyzing the figure, tracing some stick figure over it isn't all that helpful sounding. Also that youtube guy is obnoxious and all of his videos are clickbait, I wouldn't try to learn from him. I'd rather learn from actual art teachers than "some guy" on youtube who has to farm clicks with eyecatching titles.

[Anonymous No.4806931]

>>4805444
it blew my mind when i found out water is mostly gray

[Anonymous No.4806936]

>>4802310

[Anonymous No.4806957]

>>4806936
Anon, do you ever flip or zoom out when drawing and doubt yourself that there’s nothing wrong with it? I know you’re beg but come on on the head is obviously too small.

[Anonymous No.4806972]

[Anonymous No.4807009]

Ik the face is screwed, gonna keep working on this angle tho

[Anonymous No.4807024]

I still have a lot of work to do anatomy wise, but I'm hoping I can at least get poses to flow like the original.

[Anonymous No.4807025]

i’m moving from traditional paint to digital and want to focus on what i can’t do well with paint- clean lines and simple structure, but is that a no-no? i want to have like a discernible style but i feel like it’s missing something. i don’t want to focus on shading because i do that in my traditional stuff, but it feels naked. does it look naked too? too flat?

[Anonymous No.4807046]

>>4805517
nice

[Anonymous No.4807047]

I live with my parents and I don’t have a drawing pad or anything and I’m obviously not good with a mouse. How should I hide my nudes or porn pics? So far I’ve just hidden them on my phone, taking a picture and then tearing them up, but I don’t have access to great lighting and some of them I would like to keep.

[Anonymous No.4807049]

>>4805175
I'm a beginner, anon, it's my second digital drawing

[Anonymous No.4807054]

>still new
>have money
Kinda tempted to buy the Huion Kamvas 12 (2020). I really don't like using my Intuous as it's actually quite a pain to work with.

[Anonymous No.4807064]

>>4807054
Don't bother using a tablet unless it's at least 16 inches diagonally. All you'll do is give yourself RSI.

[Anonymous No.4807086]

>>4807064
I'm not an artists, so RSI isn't going to happen.

[Anonymous No.4807098]

>>4807064
>>4807086
And when I say I'm not an artist I mean it. I've only practiced a few times. Though learning the concept of using references and studying has helped improve from where I was like a week ago.

[Anonymous No.4807103]

>>4807047
What the fuck nigger are they ultra conservatives who would get mad at you learning to draw???

[Anonymous No.4807113]

>>4807103
I wouldn’t say ultra conservative, but they are conservative. But more than that, I think I successfully convinced them that I’m an asexual autist, so shattering that image would be like a powder keg, rather than the slow burn growing up usually represents. Like, I refuse to watch movies with nudity (as far as they know) to this day. Also I plan on drawing actual porn, which they definitely wouldn’t approve of, at least not in their house.

[Anonymous No.4807117]

Reminder that we're all GMI as long as we keep practicing for even a few hours a week. That includes drawing for fun, folks

[Anonymous No.4807143]

[Anonymous No.4807231]

>>4806685
maybe because this is a heavily stylised cartoon you dumb fuck and loomis was bad at drawing cartoons, only apply it to real life

[Anonymous No.4807256]

>>4806579
second try

>>4806615
>>4806620
thanks for the suggestions, I tried follow them.

[Anonymous No.4807277]

>>4806490
post reference

[Anonymous No.4807285]

>>4802310
so I recently got back into art after 5 years or so. I had originally spent around 5 years doing digital art, mostly painting things from photo reference.
I want to draw people (cute anime girls) from imagination, as this is a new thing for me I would say I am a beginner,
However, after getting back into it after 5 years, digital art doesn't feel the same to me, I much prefer drawing with pen and pencil, I can't quite explain it, anyone else experienced this before? I feel like I have a lot more control with traditional medium. Maybe a screen tablet would help? I'm not sure what to do..

[Anonymous No.4807333]

>>4807256
Noice, much better imo

[Musubi No.4807432]

My dog drawing process form construction to coloring. Is it good?

[Anonymous No.4807466]

>>4807256
rn ur mid to low tier /beg/

make their foreheads literally just smaller than the entire continent of Europe and you're high /beg/ tier.

[Anonymous No.4807578]

>>4803113
pls gibe link

[Anonymous No.4807781]

Here's an attempt at a thousand yard stare, I haven't touched actual paper in a while

[Anonymous No.4807805]

>>4804298
Just use it to warm up and to practice some fundies, don’t spend ages on it.

[Anonymous No.4807810]

>>4807277
i mostly drew it from imagination but i used this ref for the highlights on the hair

[Anonymous No.4808378]

new thread >>4808377

new thread >>4808377

new thread >>4808377

[Anonymous No.4808396]

>>4807781
you spent more time on your gay ass signature than you spent drawing