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Why do artists lay down so many unnecessary, wavy lines?

>> No.4796318

chicken scratch

>> No.4796322

to feel the form

>> No.4796323
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>>4796322
I wanna feel your form

>> No.4796325

>>4796323
;3c

>> No.4796338

if you use lots of lines, eventually some of them will conform to the proper form of a body, and your brain starts to recognize it as a person, and kind of filters out the rest of the badly drawn lines that dont actually contribute to defining the body shape. for some people, they see that using multiple lines for every part of the body makes the end result look better than their normal work, so they get into the habit of chicken scratching everything.

>> No.4796346

>>4796338
shut up beg.
this is called line searching and is normal for a sketch. the artist is looking for the correct line and usually inks the right one after sketching like that. nothing about it is chicken scratch (that means unconfident lines). I am so sick of begs talking shit out of their ass. shut up.

>> No.4796387

>>4796346
im not talking about sketching. if you need to use this technique on your final pass on the drawing to make it passable, like the artist for the OP image did, then uh, its kind of obvious they arent comfortable with their drawings, i.e. unconfident lines, i.e. its chicken scratching. sketching to get a sense of what you want to draw is obviously outside of the scope of my post, but you ignored that to babyrage in your cringe, laughably hostile post. that said, you are probably a beg if you have to "line search" you sketch as much as the op image does in order to make the sketch good.

>> No.4796389

>>4796387
the OP image is literally a sketch are you retarded

>> No.4796400

>>4796387
shut. up. stupid.

>> No.4796405

>>4796389
yes or no, that doesnt change anything i said. if you need to "line search" this much to crutch up your sketches or your final drawings, you should try and make an effort to practice without using this technique.

>> No.4796420

>>4796405
this is like 90% of the people in the weeb industry when sketching, just shut the fuck up.

>> No.4796438

>>4796420
well thats not saying much when 90% of all artists are intermediate-tier or less
not to mention that i very rarely see a sketch as messy as the op pic, even from begs

>> No.4796441

>>4796438
they're still making more money than you will ever see so they must be doing something right.
stop being an ass

>> No.4796443

>>4796387
soooo fucking STUPID BRO. please, for the love of god, think before you post. just a simple "is what I'm saying true? am I speaking nonsense? do I actually know what I'm talking about?" if you answer 'no' to any of these then do not post.

>> No.4796446

>>4796387
Why do /beg/tards have the highest confidence?

>> No.4796447

>>4796441
stop being an ass, says the babyrager. good lord man. and now you move the goalposts by lightyears.
besides the fact that most artists have an abysmally poor income, and most still dont use line searching like this, their individual successes dont actually prove the technique is actually good or not a crutch, it just goes to show that anyone can make it even with mediocre art. look at ONE.

>> No.4796450

>>4796443
>"is what I'm saying true? am I speaking nonsense? do I actually know what I'm talking about?" if you answer 'no' to any of these then do not post.
wait, is this true?

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>>4796443
>>4796446
imagine thinking the op drawing somehow validates chicken scratching

>> No.4796470

>>4796314
How many of these fucking threads are we going to have?

>> No.4796493

>>4796314
cause its fun

>>4796387
cope

>> No.4796504

>>4796493
how beg do you have to be to think chicken scratching is fun

>> No.4796530

I do it because It gets me something quick and I'm too lazy to make my sketches look clean.

>> No.4796582

>>4796387
Retarded loomeme shitter back to plebbit you commitrash

>> No.4796606

Why has it become a meme to shit on sketches for not being perfect and clean? Have you dumb niggers ever seen a professional artist draw anything? Every single of them will start with a bit of a messy sketch that will get refined later. I don't know where this whole "your lines need to look perfect the moment you put them down in the sketch phase" mentality came from but I'm about sick of you retards parroting it.

>> No.4796615

>>4796606
>/Beg/ reads book
>Book tell beg to draw only clean line to learn confidence
>Beg think he have to only use clean line forever, magical book say so
>REEEEEEEEEEEE YOUR CHICKEN SCRATCHING

>> No.4796620

>>4796314
most of this sketch is fine but that hair is chicken scratched to shit I can't even tell what I'm looking at
if this fucker was trying to "line search" he needs to keep looking

>> No.4796628

>>4796314
>what is a sketch
Imagine being this much of a beginner fucking shit. Serious case of dunning kruger

>> No.4796635

Let me guess, you’re one of those lineartniggers who think clean and precise is the way and only way to draw

>> No.4796701

>>4796615
>>4796606
>>4796582
>>4796635
this isnt about line searching being inherently a bad technique, everyone obviously sketches with at least a a
little line searching you morons. its about how it can absolutely be exploited as a crutch by begs who need to line search with a 1000+ chicken scratches to draw a single person. having messy sketches is one thing, the op sketch is a clusterfuck. it doesnt stop bring chicken scratching just because its a sketch. i can only imagine your own sketches look similar if you are this angry over being told this

>> No.4796705

>>4796701
chicken scratch are unconfident lines. OP pic is obviously doing long strokes.
fuck off goddamnit I wish begs would stay in their shitty thread

>> No.4796709

>>4796705
needing 50 lines to draw the chin is pretty much the opposite of what i call confident. long strokes are not confident because they are long

>> No.4796711

>>4796314
Isn’t this from horizon in the middle of nowhere? I wish Sunrise could adapt more chapters.

>> No.4796715

>>4796709
they are. please learn what chicken scratch means and check out some pros sketches

>> No.4796717

>>4796709
Shut the fuck up you cocky beginner, you sound insufferable.

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>>4796701
>doubling down
shut the fuck up. i have to leave this board. this is the kind of person who critiques other people's work on here?

>> No.4796724

>>4796701
Alright, pyw time. Let's see those confident sketches.

>> No.4796729

>>4796722
yeah this is why I dont give a shit about the critique here. full of beg shitters I am sick of it. this place is only good for the resources it has. FUCK that.
>hurr hurr the lines are too many uhhhhmmm whats the word to use OH RIGHT CHICKEN SCRATCH hahah am I pro now
and yes. I am mad.

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>> No.4796741

>>4796715
i really noticed how you avoided the op pic confidently drawn, because it clearly isnt. the one thing that separates chicken scratching from line searching is confidence, and it aint here chief. and yes pro artists, as in skilled artists, DO use line searching in their sketches, because they are not robots who automatically know exactly what they want to draw. they also make mistakes and drae bad lines. however, they are skilled, and do not need to spend 5 hours drawing lines until a person happens to appear out of the mess like the op pic. the op pic is not done by a skilled artist. stop using it to excuse your own chicken scratching.

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>> No.4796746

>>4796741
just shut up.

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>> No.4796763

>>4796722
>>4796724
>>4796732
>posting other peoples drawings
hmm. but yes, i can see that these sketches were drawn by a skilled artist even though they use lots of lines to get there. it still doesnt mean its not exploited by begs to make up for lack of knowledge of anatomy and form. whatever the case, you all keep seething that i called the op pic trash

>> No.4796780

>>4796763
I exploited your mother, dumb beg.

>> No.4796788

>>4796741
Op pic is just messily drawn, but it aint chicken scratching and thats why everyone is telling you to shut the fuck up

>> No.4796809

>>4796788
its unconfident -> its chicken scratch. simple as. you and the other salty beg can keep eating my truth

>> No.4796820

>>4796809
There are like a dozen different people telling you you're by definition wrong, but I'm sure a /beg/ like you knows better kek

>> No.4796973

>>4796820
>by definition
ah yes, because merriam webster actually knows about the existence of the phrase "chicken scratch" and has conveniently defined it so that it exactly agrees with your retarded definition you autistically parrot - you havent even defined it by the way. and no, you and another salty beg samefagging does not count as "a dozen", sorry to say

>> No.4797659

>>4796748
Chicken scratched to hell

>> No.4797664

>>4796314
I don’t know, but it looks cool

>> No.4797800

>>4796722
>>4796732
>>4796739
>>4796743
>>4796748
Well in animation it makes sense, you need a good flexible foundation, fluid action and conveyance of emotion, and consistent mass before you finalize the forms and clean up the thousands of images.

>> No.4797801

>>4796314
No rules, only tools.

>> No.4798038

>>4796318
Retard

>> No.4798041

>>4796314
they are necessary

>> No.4798092

>>4796314
stfu dum dum

>> No.4798103

>>4796743
that kid was about to get laid as a squirrel and the wizard was all 'aw yeah son you gonna be a man boy'

>> No.4799709

>>4796732
>>4796739
>>4796743
>>4796748

greatest western artist