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what do i do once i can do loomis head

>> No.4787137

i dont think you understand what the point of the loomis head is
all the loomis head teaches is where to put the features of a face in a complex angle

>> No.4787139

>>4787137
well how do i draw features?

>> No.4787143

>>4787139
Oh I don't know maybe read the rest of the fucking book

>> No.4787147

>>4787143
it's not really teaching me how to draw features it just seems like copy and paste in case you don't know the book is "fun with a pencil"

>> No.4787155

bump

>> No.4787181

>>4787133
No crabs ever went past loomis head phase.
Hell, they never even started.
It's just a meme trap made just for newbies like you to fall into.

>> No.4787190

>>4787133
Learn to draw? That might help
Like for real, loomis is all good but you gotta remember WHY you do loomis. The internet is full of tutorials on "how to draw a face", most of them assuming you already know how to shape a head. Do we also need to do the googling for you?

>> No.4787212

>>4787181
?

>> No.4787216

>>4787190
there s just so much information people saying this is good and that it isn't good i just don't know where to start?

>> No.4787226

>>4787212
If you have never draw before, and someone asks you to go learn loomis head, you fell for the crab trap.
Loomis is suppose to come after you know how to draw a face.
But your face will look flat and bad without loomis.
This is when you learn how to construct with loomis.
You need the construction to help your flat 2D drawn face to look 3D and help you to draw you heads looking different angle.
You can't go from loomis head to draw faces without learning new stuffs.
It's literally draw the rest of the fucking owl.
Loomis head is the support for you to draw the face on.
If you're done with loomis head, move on, go learn how to draw faces from someone else, you will understand how loomis will help you by then.

>> No.4787229

>>4787133
loomis is flawed. cranial mass too small, neck too thin jaw too far back, no room for ears

>> No.4787238

>>4787226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIAbhDmlyKU
this guy any good for learning faces anything i should look out for?

>> No.4787240

>>4787147
if you drew potato heads by looking you should be able to put the features, if you want realistically features look up realistically faces and break it down to simple shapes or find someone who break it down for you if you struggle simplifying it yourself

>> No.4787261

>>4787238
this guy is pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBv5z0Y2odE

>> No.4787270

>>4787133
>Chin aligns with temporal lobe
Wait is this true?

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>> No.4787378

As you study portrait you'll realize that u need to adjust loomis head for accuracy. The cranial mass is nit represented well. But it's good to learn for anime

>> No.4787411

>>4787216
I'd probably stick to the "big" names, Proko (I think he's pretty god for begs), etc. But you can just search on YT for tutorials. If you're not an absolute brainlet you'll figure what's good and what isn't. People say all kinds of shit but it really depends on you. You might find xy's voice or style annoying and then it won't work for you, even if it's objectively good. So imo the best method is 1) checking out the big names
2) checking out random tutorials (sometimes noname or less known guys have pretty good knowledge and nice tutorials about all sorts of things)
3) watch whatever you're comfortable with, even if /ic crabs claim it's shit. This is 4chan, everything is always shit for anons just for the keks

>> No.4787611

>>4787143
I dont read, I just draw

>> No.4787757

>>4787133
Then.
Perspective(if you don't know it)
Hands
body
shading
rendering
composition

https://archive.org/details/andrew-loomis-drawing-heads-and-hands
This is about hands. You can found other Loomis books there too

>> No.4787780

>>4787757
Not OP, but how the fuck do I do perspective? I try to draw boxes by putting the line with the dot and my lines never line up properly.

>> No.4787807

>>4787780
All in the beginners thread there's a lot of good links and resources there

>> No.4790455

>>4787133
Draw heads in any angle you want

>> No.4790712

>>4787216
Go to the video course thread and do the Steve huston head drawing course (the first part is on YouTube)

>> No.4790962

>>4787133
You become a LOOMER and LOOOOM all over your sheets of paper or your screen.

>> No.4792895

>>4787358
This looks so wrong lol.

I love how these people are so accurate at drawing the construction but when it comes to the actual drawing. It looks completely off and unaesthetic. The face looks like different people at different angles lol.

>> No.4792911

>>4792895
I love how this guy is laughing at the drawing not being accurate while in actual drawing he can't even produce anything except shit. Aesthetic doesn't have anything to do with that exercise. Bet u can't even rotate a box freehand

>> No.4792926

>>4792895
Can u do better tho?

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>>4792911
not him

>> No.4793631

>>4792895
Bottom up shots or the reverse tend to be non-aesthetic on their own

>> No.4793720

>>4787133
You wasted your time. Loomis only shows you the general sections of the head and it doesn't teach you the planes or anything hence why a lot of noob loomis drawings look flat/unrealistic. You would've been better off learning the different plane changes in the face, how they fit together to form the head and how the features relate to those planes/to each other.

>> No.4793779

>>4787780
Marshall Vandruff's perspective for beginners course (vid thread) -> Robertson's "How to Draw" book

>> No.4794829

>>4793720
Loomis teaches the planes of the face as well. ngmis just see the page 1 construction and never go through the actual book.

>> No.4794852

>>4794829
there’s a book?

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>> No.4795300

>>4792895
Making a drawing look "aesthetic" is its own skill that needs to be honed after learning how to into construction. You have to learn how to make the construction look "alive".

>> No.4795424

>>4794852
ngmi: the post

thanx for big lulz

>> No.4795464

>>4792895
t. loomis cuck

>> No.4795469

>fell for the loomis meme
le bearded Viking face :DDD

>> No.4795480

>>4787411
You gave not a single piece of useful advice. Did you do that on purpose?