/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4785698]

Who the fuck decided that drawings being "clean" should be the standard? Because I say we should revert the paradigm. Polished is both harder and looks worse than a sketch, I guess it serves as a base for rendering but there could be a new standard with messy rendering as well.

But the general public expects crystal clear drawings and artists keep aiming at polishing their art until it's devoid of life perpetuating the stereotype and I'm literally

[Anonymous No.4785699]

>>4785698
your post is the equivalent of a 300 pound fat girl whining about beauty standards. that image is a cherrypicked example

[Anonymous No.4785702]

>>4785698
I agree that sketches normally have more soul, sometimes I really just wanna render right after the sketch, fuck line art.

[Anonymous No.4785708]

nope you're just dumb and doing lineart wrong.
you're just choosing the wrong lines and erasing the right ones, also lineart doesn't necessarily mean less lines or more clean, you can keep multiple lines that accomplish the same purpose from your sketch as long as it retains the readability and feel.
pic in your OP is cherry picked as fuck.

[Anonymous No.4785712]

>>4785698
>comparing a good sketch to an absolute crappy lineart

[Anonymous No.4785714]

>>4785698
i am pretty sure the lineart is not by the same person who did the sketch, too many wrong lines

[Anonymous No.4785719]

You should try experiment with line weight and adding tiny details

[Anonymous No.4785725]

>>4785698
I used to have the same inner dillema.
It depends on your style and your audience.
If you want to draw crude web comics or album covers for metal bands, go ahead, clean linework doesn't add any value there.
But remember that a drawing is very rarely a finished product. A finished product is an illustration, a game asset or a gallery painting - all of which prefer clarity over personal expression.

Good luck anon, I wonder if you manage to find a style that leads to an appealing finished product and doesn't rely on clean lines - it's no easy task.

[Anonymous No.4785726]

Terrible example OP. Do better.

[Anonymous No.4785754]

>>4785698
ngmi

[Anonymous No.4785770]

>>4785712
The sketch suck too tho

[Anonymous No.4785774]

>>4785754
>good sketch
>dull lineart
>good render
mfw I always scrap drawings at the lineart step because I believe them to be unfixable...

[Anonymous No.4785784]

>>4785698
Sketchy lines trick stupid people into thinking the drawing is better than it is, and only beginners find it preferrable because it's closer to what they can do themselves and therefore more relatable to them. More experienced artists and people with more developed tastes rightfully recognize chickenscratch for being the crutch of a beginner that isn't sure where to put their lines.

[Anonymous No.4785794]

>>4785784
you dont even understand the words you are using retard

[Anonymous No.4785797]

>>4785794
Coping /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4785850]

>>4785698
Learn to paint fggt

[Anonymous No.4785853]

>>4785850
that neck lol

[Anonymous No.4785857]

the line art sucks because it has no line weight. that makes it look like shit.

[Anonymous No.4785859]

>>4785850
ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.4785875]

>>4785857
You can make good lineart with uniform line weight.
OP's image sucks because it is a beginner badly using the pen tool to clean up a sketch where nothing was in the right place to begin with.

Look at how wobbly the ellipses of the barbell are. Look at how the boobs look like they're just a bunch of random boob-ish shapes from different angles and poses cobbled together. Look at the hands, the arms, the butt, the crotch. Look at the lifeless expression, and flat, wide set facial features. Really the only thing that looks okay here is the hair. It's just a terrible drawing made by someone that doesn't even know how to use their tools properly.

[Anonymous No.4785880]

>>4785850
Like the face

[Anonymous No.4785881]

>>4785853
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4785884]

>>4785774
The lineart is dull since it lacks line control, which is fine in this case since it got painted over.

[Anonymous No.4785890]

>>4785698
>the manga
>the anime

[Anonymous No.4785902]

>>4785881
He's right, you dumb crab. The angle of the line on the left is wrong, the neck is way too long, and there hair coming down obscures where the line for the back of the neck should be at a tangent, which has the effect of making it look like the neck is extremely thick too.

[Anonymous No.4785905]

>>4785902
the hair*

[Anonymous No.4785914]

>>4785902
>the neck is way too long
That's where you're wrong, idiot crab.

[Anonymous No.4785920]

>>4785914
But this video got famous because the guy had an extremely long neck.

[Anonymous No.4785921]

>>4785914
>get called a dumb crab
>I know, I'll call them "idiot crab"!

[Anonymous No.4785938]

>>4785698
you should try finding your own style/technique for lineart instead of just imitating what you think all artists do. Clean lines with no lineweight don't really fit you, anon

[Anonymous No.4785944]

>>4785938
Not op but what you said got me curious. Wht styles are fit for clean lines?

[Anonymous No.4785946]

>>4785938
Naisu
OP will probably mistake the hatching for being 'sketchy' though. I find it amsuing that you didn't correct the hand mistakes though.

[Anonymous No.4785947]

>>4785921
>green text
>green text

[Anonymous No.4785948]

>>4785938
basado

[Anonymous No.4785949]

>>4785944
what*

[Anonymous No.4785953]

>>4785944
Styles with fine details, delicate shapes, precise linework, etc.

[Anonymous No.4785955]

>>4785953
>Styles with fine details, delicate shapes, precise linework.
Please post an example, now im interested.

[Anonymous No.4785956]

>>4785944
not the anon you're asking to, but lineart with constant weight is known as "ligne claire" in european comics. it's a staple of Herge's style, amongst others

[Anonymous No.4785960]

>>4785947
Yes anon, and this text is BLAACK, and the post number is BLUE!
Good job!

[Anonymous No.4785970]

>>4785944
It's honestly hard to tell. I usually associate fine lineart with a rendering style that is bubbly/heavy stylized or has tons of different shades in. Usually you either put emphasys on color render OR the inking; if you do both you end up with an overworked mess like a lot of superhero comic pages end up being
>>4785946
maybe anon won't since you explained it! And yeah I honestly didn't care to fix the sketch. It needs a 2nd sketch to begin with

[Anonymous No.4785976]

>>4785970
while an example of simple coloring + intricate lineart would be moebius' portraits

[Anonymous No.4785979]

>>4785970
>if you do both you end up with an overworked mess like a lot of superhero comic pages end up being
I think it also has a lot to do with the fact that inks and colors are often done by different artists. If they don't understand each other, the colors can contradict the message the ink is trying to convey

[Anonymous No.4785981]

>>4785955
Nothing off the top of my head, but I'll let you know if I think of an example.

[Anonymous No.4785986]

>>4785981
Alright,thanks.

[Anonymous No.4785987]

>>4785979
absolutely true as well. It doesn't help that a lot of colorists aren't artists to begin with, but either tech or graphic design guys.

[Anonymous No.4785997]

>>4785850
Why is it always the /beg/s that have the most confidence?

[Anonymous No.4786012]

>>4785997
Dunning-Kruger effect.

This doesn't belong in /beg/ though

[Anonymous No.4786022]

>>4785997
holy shit, this is next level crabbing

[Anonymous No.4786096]

>>4785997
>that
>beginner
uh huh.

[Anonymous No.4786111]

>>4785997
That explains your confidence recently.

[Anonymous No.4786173]

>>4785997
The irony lmaoooo

[Anonymous No.4786203]

>>4785698
lrn2 lineweight. stupid newbie.

[Anonymous No.4786253]

>>4785698
Your own fault for not knowing how to hatch properly.

[Anonymous No.4786376]

>>4785850
gib blog pls anon

[Anonymous No.4786486]

>>4785698
You're going to struggle with this until you start focusing on line weight, while not impossible to do a good uniform line weight, it is far harder.
You also want to check for tangents like her hair touching the armpit, and calf merging into her shorts.

[Anonymous No.4786516]

corrent me if I'm wrong but the way I would "clean' that sketch is lineart the tummy, arms and a bit of the face, because they are less expressive about the movement that's being implied in the pic. all of those rough lines seem to imply movement and action, whenever is intentional or not; specially the verical short lines

the boobs, weights and legs should be slightly polished, and by that I mean linearting over the principal lines of the character,

[Anonymous No.4786533]

>>4786516
What are you even trying to say here?

[Anonymous No.4786553]

>>4786376
https://twitter.com/HIT_KUNN/

[Anonymous No.4786578]

>>4785698
Nobody seems to understand that doing lineart is not just tracing your sketch

Think of it more like carving out your drawing from the sketch. You are imparting form into the sketch. The sketch is all about energy and capturing the moment. It’s fast and made to jot down the idea. The lineart is the finalization of the sketch.

The lineart in OP is 1 dimensional, but you can make the lines 2 dimensional to define the 3 dimensional form. Every line is used to indicate 3D form so use an extra dimension to make the lines into shapes.

[Anonymous No.4786650]

>>4786553
Pretty nice art, thanks for sharing.

[Anonymous No.4786659]

If you don't paint directly over a cleaned sketch you are literal garbage at art

sketches shouldn't be made into lineart it literally always ruins the soul unless it's specifically manga or something with a focus on ink.

[Anonymous No.4786664]

Lol imagine this with lineart it would absolutely tank it

[Anonymous No.4786667]

I don't know about you but my lineart always look much better than the sketch.

[Anonymous No.4786669]

>>4786667
>doesn't post an example

I don't believe you

[Anonymous No.4786683]

>>4786650
I like your image

[Anonymous No.4786687]

Sure sometimes but the OP's picture is just shit lineart.

[Anonymous No.4786689]

>>4786669
Alright, but have a wip because I never keep sketches.

[Anonymous No.4786693]

>>4785698
Your sketch is crosseyed.

[Anonymous No.4786720]

>>4786689
An unfinished gesture isn't a 'sketch' bro..

[Anonymous No.4786723]

>>4786720
Isn't a sketch a rough idea? If not then I don't know what it is.

[Anonymous No.4786725]

>>4786720
No rules, just tools

[Anonymous No.4786729]

>>4786723
..a sketch is a sketch when it's finished - the left image you posted is half gesture half construction. I guess by some technical definition you could say it's a sketch but 99% of people who use that word in the art world aren't talking about what you're thinking. These are sketches in the way everyone is using the word

[Anonymous No.4786731]

>>4786486
What the fuck is that descriptive art mess.
>closer = more weight
No but their second guess on light source/shadow = thicker lines is the correct observation.
>recessed area = thicker line
Again, thicker lines on shadow, not because it's recessed.
>thicker where multiple lines or shapes intersect
No it's shadow again. Also "sometimes" is a synonym for "I don't understand".
>denser objects should have denser line art than soft and fragile objects
We have learned nothing.

If this was written by the artist of this, they need to shut up and just draw more fun things because their brain starts and ends in their fingers.

[Anonymous No.4786733]

>>4786720
Yes it fucking is.

[Anonymous No.4786735]

>>4786733
pyw

[Anonymous No.4786739]

>>4786689
>>4786723
>>4786733
yeah bro a piece of wet dough with raw cheese on it is going to technically be better after you bake it but there's still no point in not making the dough round and furnished with good toppings. Like no shit you didn't even finish the sketch of course the lines will look better that's clearly not the point of the OP lmao. You can't sap the soul out of a sketch that doens't have any aha

[Anonymous No.4786748]

>>4786729
Anon, again, no rules, just tools
Your sketch only needs to be as clear and detailed as you want it to be, not like anon is drawing detailed characters like you posted

[Anonymous No.4786749]

When is a sketch finished?

[Anonymous No.4786754]

>>4786749
when some guy on /ic/ says it is

[Anonymous No.4786768]

>>4785698
Your post reflects a larger problem common to /ic/: you're illustrators who want to illustrate in anime/manga style, you're not making actual anime/manga.
Anime and manga are commercial products. There are practical considerations arising from the need to reproduce this art cleanly. You might be pleased with your sloppy sketches, but they're not going to work in the context of a full comic page, or as a single frame of an animation that requires 25,000 such drawings.

[Anonymous No.4786839]

I feel like I just added my own mistakes in trying to correct some things but I'm a lazy bastard and didn't want to take the time when I'm 90% sure you know where the anatomical mistakes are. Sorry for the phone in

I would just say to vary your line weight (like lots of other people have said) but also I wasn't fully sure what direction she was moving in so it made it hard to determine where to put the weight in the lines

idk if you use csp but if you do, using vector layers for your lines and the 'correct line width' tool can be an easy way to experiment with line weights without having to redraw your lines.

[Anonymous No.4786878]

>>4786729
a sketch can be anything man, if all you need is a line of action and then you can start painting on top of that, your little line can be your sketch

[Anonymous No.4786964]

>>4785699
fpbp

[Anonymous No.4786980]

>>4786731
he posted his work, you didn't, why should i take your bullshit over his?

[Anonymous No.4786988]

>>4786739
>food analogy

[Anonymous No.4786990]

>>4786735
Why?

[Anonymous No.4786992]

>>4786839
bold of you to assume that this us OP's art

[Anonymous No.4786995]

>>4786980
That's just a 7 year old file taken off of deviantart from a quick google. Same name as the default download file name.
My criticism is that the artist can't analyse his own technique.
PYW for disagreeing with me if I have to post mine for pointing out how that artist got that result.

[Anonymous No.4787001]

>>4786689
honestly the only things that improved in the lineart are the hand and torso but that's just because you didn't finish them on the sketch.
I like the expression and proportions of the face as well as the relationship between the neck and head way more because they feel more natural.
also you lowered the hip in the lineart which makes the pose less dynamic.

[Anonymous No.4787011]

>>4786995
>pyw
i haven't made any claims i need to back up so why should I?
hell, let's say i'm a complete /beg/ who just started drawing and am seeking advice about lineart, if i'm presented with your analysis and his, why should i consider taking your advice while you're not confident enough to illustrate it with an example?
For all i know you could be full of shit and the artist can analyse his technique perfectly.

[Anonymous No.4787025]

>>4787011
The image says "I drew an apple" when all that's on display is a pear.
I called it a pear.
I didn't call drawing an apple wrong. I even said the art was good.
If you're a /beg/ you can take my advice or his and eventually get the result you want. As a /beg/ you need to realise a lot of "advice" is subjective and takes a lot of liberties for good reason or personal style.

Given how upset you are, either you posted that image and you're upset I called bullshit on the analysis, or you're suffering second hand embarrassment. I don't know what's worse for you to admit to.

[Anonymous No.4787030]

>>4787025
I'm not upset i'm genuinely looking for a reason to take anything you're saying seriously and you're not offering any.

[Anonymous No.4787032]

>>4787030
You're taking a google search image poster over someone who can actually analyse things?
You're cute.
Remember to practise every day and don't come back here. You deserve better than this place.

[Anonymous No.4787038]

>>4787032
>over someone who can actually analyse things?
wasn't much of an analysis bro
the image poster gave concrete examples to demonstrate what he was saying. you didn't.

[Anonymous No.4787039]

>>4787038
Brah. Braaah.
The image says closer = heavier lines when the top of the closer hand is as thin as the leg on the right and there are fifty thicker lines for further away things.
Stop trying to cope and just start drawing for fun.

[Anonymous No.4787044]

>>4787039
You are not very bright.

[Anonymous No.4787051]

>>4787039
by closer to the camera he clearly meant as in objects in the foreground. as in the fingers.
everything else is "further away" compared to the fingers on the left
>b-but there's thicker lines here
he goes out of his way to explain every exception to that rule and you still can't follow.

[Anonymous No.4787052]

why the drooling retards always come to /ic/?

[Anonymous No.4787114]

>>4787052
Because no matter what they may say, most artists are drooling retards themselves. Me included.

[Anonymous No.4787134]

>>4785997
That’s not beg fucking crab lol

[Anonymous No.4787327]

>>4785698
line weight nigga

[Anonymous No.4787330]

>>4785997
fucking retard

[Anonymous No.4787498]

>>4785698
No one does line art like does dumbass. . Why does beg always complain shitty things instead of studying them.

[Anonymous No.4787548]

>>4785850
Every time I try to paint it looks terrible though. Thats why I stick to line art with simple coloring and shading techniques.

[Anonymous No.4788518]

>>4785970
>>4785976
If I'm mainly interested in drawing the way I already am, just BETTER, is it worth learning rendering at all or should I still to just shading with black

[Anonymous No.4788558]

>>4788518
Is pic related your art? I personally think rendering is worthwhile to learn, even if you don't want to be a painter, because it gives you a better understanding of form which could then be applied to your drawing.

[Anonymous No.4788696]

Who the fuck decided that drawings being"sketchy" should be the standard? Because I say we should revert the paradigm. Sketchy is both unfinished and looks worse than a lineart, I guess it serves as a base for paintings but there could be a new standard with careful painting as well.

But the general public expects dirty-ass drawings and artists keep aiming at scratching their art until it's devoid of life perpetuating the stereotype and I'm figuratively

[Anonymous No.4788726]

>>4785698
just have clean line variety

[Anonymous No.4788732]

>>4786553
based
https://twitter.com/HIT_KUNN/status/1290509910061379595

[Anonymous No.4788744]

>>4788696
>and I'm figuratively
10/10

[Anonymous No.4788751]

That's just an example of a drawing without tones

[Anonymous No.4788756]

>>4788558
yes it's mine

[Anonymous No.4788810]

>>4788696
I wanna fuck that dragon

[Anonymous No.4788820]

>>4788696
honestly this
my sketches tend to be very clean and simple and I envy artists who post their messy, soulful doodles, but it looks so impractical as an actual sketching technique

[Anonymous No.4789074]

>>4786749
When you have enough to start a final drawing/painting over it.

[Anonymous No.4792385]

>>4785976
Man this shit is inspiring, minimal flat colors and using the inks to trick the mind into seeing different shades of color is wonderful

[Anonymous No.4792394]

>>4785698
I agree. The masses have no taste

[Anonymous No.4792423]

>>4785698
i use to just paint over the sketch and it not only looks worse but also takes more time, cuz you can't just fill inside the lines with base colors.

[Anonymous No.4792440]

>>4785698
Other than the chickenscratch your sketch is unironically better than your lineart. Line weight alone makes a huge difference in the depth of a drawing. Unless you're going to basically paint over it almost entirely I suggest learning how to draw lines correctly

[Anonymous No.4792474]

>>4785698
FUCK YOU OP I love my extreme clean lines

My lines are always better than my sketches, and you know why? Because I dedicate myself to my lineart. I don't like needless line weight and clutter on my canvas

You guys need to focus on capturing the SOUL of your sketches. That's all you need. Of course your style also matters a lot and sometimes doing super thin/clean lineart is not worth it, but whatever

[Anonymous No.4792490]

>>4792474
Based

[Anonymous No.4792695]

>>4785698
ah fuck, i tried to get clean lines and i fucked up.

[Anonymous No.4792701]

>>4792695
based coomer

[Anonymous No.4792708]

>>4785754
Hey robaato, shouldn't you be having your monthly suicidal meltdown right now?

[Anonymous No.4794827]

>>4792695

[Anonymous No.4795355]

>>4785698
I really do love looking at artist's sketches, and I love sketching, but simply giving up and wanting the world to change instead of yourself because you can't be bothered to learn how to make good linework is a really bad attitude.
I'll fully admit that I've fallen into the trap of being lazy and not completing sketches because sketches are easy and fast and fun, and doing clean lineart seemed like a chore. But in the end I'm holding myself back and not bringing my art to its fullest potential by neglecting the skill of making good clean linework that retains or even improves upon the qualities of the original sketch. It is me that is lacking, not the whole world. Creating good looking inks and clean lineart is a skill that needs to be practiced to get better at, so practice.

I believe the secret is, instead of trying to "trace" your sketch, is to think of it as creating an entirely new drawing when you're inking/cleaning up. Approach the lineart with the same fresh, loose mindset you have when you're sketching. Sketching directly with ink brushes is also a good way of learning to think with and play with lineweights. Using a thick line to ink with also forces you to be more decisive when placing your lines.

[Anonymous No.4795370]

If we can have people blasting shit out of their ass onto a canvas, then you can have your dirty drawing and be happy with it.

>B-but people need to accept.
>>4785699

[Anonymous No.4795549]

>>4785698
This picture proves that the amount of scratchy lines a sketch normally has causes whoever (that isn't the original artist) to not know which line is the correct one... Out of all the lines you could chose, you chose the wrong ones.

The bottom right is all knee and thigh, the ass is not visible there. The shoulder looks too big on the lineart. The list continues. You only improved the left tit.

Why did you replace the thigh-high sock with a kneesock? This truly enrages the coomer in me.

[Anonymous No.4795563]

>>4795549
>This picture proves that the amount of scratchy lines a sketch normally has causes whoever (that isn't the original artist) to not know which line is the correct one.

[Anonymous No.4795644]

[Anonymous No.4795661]

>>4795644
C

[Anonymous No.4795673]

>>4785698
>Who the fuck decided that drawings being "clean" should be the standard?
Printers.
Linework is a skill separate from the skills used when sketching. They need to be practiced like any other, though you'll naturally practice sketching more than you'll practice finishing sketches as you won't finish all your drawings, so you naturally will have more practice with sketching than with finishing.

[Anonymous No.4795715]

>>4795661
U

[Anonymous No.4795765]

>>4795715
L

[Anonymous No.4795766]

>>4795765
I

[Anonymous No.4795769]

>>4795766
N

[Anonymous No.4795770]

>>4795769
A

[Anonymous No.4795772]

>>4795770
R

[ta-kun No.4795797]

>>4785698
Clean up is actually a really difficult skill to master
It requires the understanding of which marks should be kept as is, which should be altered, which should be discarded, and which should be added. It requires and understanding of the subject matter and the purpose of the finished cleaned up piece.
What the artist here did was line over the areas where he simply needed the contrast to distinguish the objects from one another with a homogeneous line.
This is Mathematically Correct, however, our word is a physical one, each mark also represents elements of light, shadow, and distance.
This is the exact reason why we draw the top of the eye with thickness, where the bottom of the eye and the sides often get none. If we ever were to just outline them like that they would look like they have mascara, the same reason why we do small breaks in the lips, or don't usually draw nostrils. However, this all depends on how you use the lines, if you have something with a lot of lines and details, than maybe nostrils, or line under the eye won't look out of place (example :Takeshi Koike).
You see how the front knee has a thicker darker line than the rest of the figure? This helps imply distance, and make it look like its a lot closer to us, something the clean up artist didn't try to replicate in the clean up, on the other hand, the face looks slightly prettier in the clean up, so he did a good job there. Another mistake the clean up artist made was making her pony tail go medusa, where before it fit with the physical motion she was doing.
The reason why this example in particular is so extreme is because the sketch is already almost perfect for capturing the weight, contrast, and motion of the subject. All he really had to do was to clean up the obvious editing and fully erase the partially erased stuff as well as correct the fingers and clean up the line on the weights a little bit.
In case this is yours, OP, keep it up, ganbare.

[Anonymous No.4796103]

>>4795772
Y

[Anonymous No.4796155]

>>4785698
1. You're using a deadweight line. It doesn't look good in b&w, it's more common for color pieces.
You can compensate for the stiffness of it by drawing more loose. But imo for b&w having some width variation is always better.

2. Sketch with the tool you will ink. In digital, you don't have any good reasons to do otherwise.

3. Don't aim for perfection. 99% of the time good lineart isn't as clean as you think it is. Especially in digital, where you don't have some natural texture provided by ink and paper.

[Anonymous No.4796278]

>>4795644
The colored one is off model.
Even if it's a downshot the feature of the face are too high. And the neck is too short.

[Anonymous No.4796281]

>>4785698
draw however you want who fucking cares
shut up faggot

[Anonymous No.4796296]

>>4785997
cackled at this post

[Anonymous No.4796718]

>>4796155
Get a load of this absolute /beg/

[Anonymous No.4796750]

>>4785698
There's a joke in the anime Kakushigoto where the mangaka main characters says something like this and decides to deliver the raw sketches to the editor and almost gets fired

[Anonymous No.4798184]

>>4786659
Lineart is a product of traditional art, paints and colored inks don't play nicely with pencil on paper.

[Anonymous No.4798348]

>>4795644

>>4795661
>>4795715
>>4795769
>>4795769
>>4796103

[Anonymous No.4798371]

>>4796750
>Kakushigoto
theres an anime of that? wew
>not animated by SHAFT
one job

[Anonymous No.4799010]

>>4788732
how do i make the ps hard round brush in cps?

[Anonymous No.4799018]

>>4799010
it's easy as shit. follow this except her mixing stuff
https://youtu.be/bZbJYAVmghk?t=53

[Anonymous No.4799024]

>>4799018
thanks mate

[Anonymous No.4799035]

Sketches have three main advantages over lineart for beginners

>undefined lines means your mind picks out the one that looks the best
>amount of lines suggest depth
>lightness and boldness variance of the lines suggest depth

Lineart strips away all of these, and the replacement techniques are harder to master and require more knowledge and patience. However if you're not planning to render, color, or shade the drawing, I see nothing wrong with a respectable sketch, even the best clean lineart can look dull and flat sometimes.

[Anonymous No.4799039]

>>4785698
Left has shading and seemingly dramatic lines, right doesn't.
Learn to render properly and stop making shit threads.

[Anonymous No.4799055]

>>4786748
Based Vilppu poster

[Anonymous No.4799101]

>>4799035
>three stitches instead of two
0/10

[Anonymous No.4799235]

how do you not go crazy fixing the little errors in the line work?

[Anonymous No.4799252]

>>4799035

[Anonymous No.4799259]

>>4785698
>comparing a sketch with lineart that ommits detail and shading

[Anonymous No.4799337]

>>4798371
>kakushigoto
>not animated by SHAFT
Good. Its better because its not animated by Shaft.

[Anonymous No.4799496]

>>4785698
Simply flipping things around to their opposite doesn't automatically make them better, you dumb fuck commie retard.

[Anonymous No.4799570]

>>4785699
/thread

[Anonymous No.4799572]

>>4785997
pyw

[Anonymous No.4799580]

>>4788696
Based

[Anonymous No.4799922]

>>4799235
Use vector layers

[Anonymous No.4799942]

>>4785944
Absolute /beg/ retard so take my shitpost with a grain of salt.
The styles that fit well with clean lines are shit and piss.

[Anonymous No.4799947]

>>4799942
As i'm not a complete nigger i'm going to post the opposite of clean lines.

[Anonymous No.4800107]

>>4785997

Are all the replies to this post a same fag? That shitty digital painting is beg as fuck

[Anonymous No.4800149]

>>4785698
I don't like lineart unless it's for a technical drawings.
Though it can look nice if it's done more stylistically but the clean look like you showed in the OP image is not appealing.

[Anonymous No.4800566]

>>4799947
look terrible

[Anonymous No.4802237]

Everyone is a beg except me.

[Anonymous No.4802507]

>>4785698
>Polished is both harder and looks worse than a sketch

Sure thing beg.

the reason why sketches often look better is because begs don't undersand gesture and design and they rely on vague forms to mask their beggery, but as soon as that mask comes off and its exposed in its true form with line art then you'll be able to see how terrible their drawings are.

as for your pic, the sketch looks better because it depicted the movement, tension, and feeling of that entire pose accurately. If you had any sense then you'd put those same movement lines on the line art.

[Anonymous No.4804056]

>>4788518
>Deadbolt
pretty great taste, anon.