Draw Thread

[Anonymous No.4781133]

Previous thread: >>4761407


Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! Don't take anything personal!
Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 1000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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http://characterdesigns.com/
http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3.html
http://finaltrinity.tumblr.com/post/13163064364/art-references-tumblr-accounts

>fellowBro's books :
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>Figure Drawing Tool:
http://pixelovely.com/gesture/figuredrawing.php
http://posemaniacs.com

[Anonymous No.4781142]

Working on this bio punk snail, any thoughts so far before I begin rendering?

[Anonymous No.4781144]

[Anonymous No.4781236]

>>4781142
Slime lots of it. Can’t wait to see updates.
>>4781144
When I first saw this I thought it was a child making this cute. Is this for a story? Only thing I can suggest is her kicking up dirt or grass. Otherwise looking great.

[Anonymous No.4781266]

Rendering inspired by my ex, she was a whore.

[Anonymous No.4781280]

Just finished postpro on this

Full resolution on my dA

[Anonymous No.4781289]

>>4781142
very cool!

[Anonymous No.4781315]

Think it needs a few charges but dunno what yet

[Anonymous No.4781555]

little sketch with markers

[Anonymous No.4781560]

>>4781315
Define/render the hair.

[Anonymous No.4781577]

>>4781315
the difference between a good art and an amateur art is the final touches

[Anonymous No.4781588]

>>4781577
id say its more edge control

[Anonymous No.4781742]

[Anonymous No.4781776]

>>4781742
cute coco

[Anonymous No.4781793]

>>4781742
Wait a fucking minute, are you the guy from Stonetoss?

[Anonymous No.4781825]

can i please ask the professionals of taste why this is bad
then i will leave you alone or here and i'll go away right

[Anonymous No.4781851]

>>4781825
Whatever robot in the center is in a mess of visual clutter. Didn’t even register it was there. Are the background objects pillars? What the hell is on the right side? His pants are completely black no lighting but based on the lighting in the image it should reflect some light. It just looks like a hole since the background is all black. Same thing for his hair. Your gray tones are really similar muddying the image more.
Is he touching water?

[Anonymous No.4781853]

>>4781851
What is the male reference? The head looks small. Neck and posing is weird too.

[Anonymous No.4781855]

>>4781133
>OP image
how did he make it pop out in image 3 vs 4?

[Anonymous No.4781859]

>>4781825
I'm not really sure what's going on in this piece which makes it difficult to give feedback. You'll get better quality critique if you explain what you were going for or what aspects you struggle with.

>>4781855
He added the darkest areas of shadows between 3 and 4 so there is more contrast even if those darks are only small details in a few places. 4 is also just a better photo.

[Anonymous No.4781870]

>>4781855

[Anonymous No.4781881]

>>4781859
mainly have trouble with lighting, gesture, anatomy etc.
the only thing i thought i didn't have trouble with was composition but that's been disproven also. i have trouble doing anything right really. maybe i should go back to basics, value studies
>>4781853
i did wonder if the head looked small and now that you've pointed it out the proportions are fucked up yes. unfortunately there's no reference.
>>4781851
should the greys be darker? adjust the lighting so that the cast shadow extends to over to the corner of the picture where the supposed other visual landmarks are supposed to be?
it is supposed to be water but i'm assuming it looks too plastic for anyone to tell.

[Anonymous No.4781957]

>>4781881
>but i'm assuming it looks too plastic for anyone to tell.
No it’s because the rest of the picture is so much visual clutter nobody can make anything out.
The guy doesn’t even look like he’s touching the leaves. He’s floating. So is the robot.
I’d give up and work on a new version. There’s no saving this in my eyes. And use a reference. Too many hard blacks and bright whites are diverting attention.
Are you trying to get a noir style? If so look at other noir styles and turn them black and white to see what was done. Also use a grey background not a white one. Use white to highlight areas. In this image too much shit is white blinding you. Pic related is minor changes to shift focus.

[Anonymous No.4782002]

>>4781957
thank you. that image alone looks so much better and human-readable.
>Are you trying to get a noir style?
i'm not really going for a noir style. i just don't know enough about color to attempt anything else really.
i wasn't intending to go any further with this. it was a bit of a learning experience and i was dissatisfied with the composition and lighting before the technical mistakes were pointed out.
i have a bad habit of focusing on detail where it is not necessary / distracts the viewer i think.

[Anonymous No.4782020]

Doodled this on a post it note at work.
No construction or refs used, lmk what y'all think!

[Anonymous No.4782026]

>>4781776
Thanks! I like her new design.

>>4781793
You mean Shmorky?

[Anonymous No.4782027]

>>4782002
You don’t need to just use black and white using colors to shade is much better. Read pic related nigger.
>Use a grey or mid tone background color.
>Shade with grey/a darker color.
>Highlight with white.

[Anonymous No.4782033]

>>4782020
Good but blends a bit. Darken some stuff. Lower left chin horn lines up with line to the plug.

[Anonymous No.4782039]

>>4782020
Looks cool as fuck

[Anonymous No.4782054]

>>4781280
bruh

[Anonymous No.4782056]

>>4782033 (checked)
You're right, I used a mechanical pencil with this so the max I could go wasn't much. I'll try buying carbon filaments for it cuz desu I like drawing with mechs lol.
Sorry I'm blasted, what did that last sentence mean? (@_@;)

>>4782039
Thank you sir! I'm glad it turned into something cool :D

[Anonymous No.4782061]

i feel like shes rlly flat, what can i do to make her pop out more

[Anonymous No.4782069]

>>4782056
Watch for lines that line up like that. I don’t see any more so it’s a minor issue to be aware of.

[Anonymous No.4782079]

>>4782061
Not to be rude but this is /beg/ tier. Her anatomy is shit. Go to /beg/ or /alt/

[Anonymous No.4782084]

>>4782069
Ohh I see now, holy shit I didn't even notice lol.
Thanks for pointing it out.

[Anonymous No.4782180]

Finally trying to paint without cheating by drawing myself a colour by number sheet. No sketch just straight painting with one brush. Tell me everything horribly wrong with it that my fatigued eyes cannot spot please

[Anonymous No.4782204]

[Anonymous No.4782329]

far from my usual artstyle, it is more a lightning experiment

[Anonymous No.4782503]

little 30min figure study, testing out new blend brush.

[Anonymous No.4782507]

>>4782204
Go to beg
>>4782329
Go to beg
>>4782503
Good values and decent edges. Try to separate the legs from each other without using lines.

[Anonymous No.4782532]

>>4782507
Let's see anon's work.

[Anonymous No.4782536]

>>4782532
An older piece of work because I replied to a post about using lines to delineate edges instead of paint

[Anonymous No.4782554]

>>4781315
The individual strands of hair are distracting to me because they're so plain and unconvincing they're almost offensive to what is a really nice illustration.

[Anonymous No.4782567]

WIP. i don’t really have a technique or plan for how to paint this, and I only occasionally attempt portraits, because I’m not really good at it.

[Anonymous No.4782572]

>>4782536
try /beg/

[Anonymous No.4782694]

Practice

[Anonymous No.4782849]

Sketch... just started digital a few days ago and trying to get comfortable with it.
If anybody has any pointers (specific to drawing/painting digitally, please I need the help.

[Anonymous No.4782881]

>>4782079
Shut up retard.

[Anonymous No.4782954]

[Anonymous No.4782960]

>>4782180
too much soft edges

[Anonymous No.4783274]

>>4781133
Progress pic after adding a horse :0
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/oAAYZk

[Anonymous No.4783289]

>>4782881
Don't be mad at me because your art isn't up to snuff.

[Anonymous No.4783347]

>>4781560
I tried..

>>4781577
Then im an amateur for sure lol

>>4782554
I think im gonna redo all the loose hairs

[Anonymous No.4783369]

>>4781142
Here’s the finished piece

[Anonymous No.4783407]

>>4782027
ok. I think I prefer painting in black and white, though, in spite of how ignorant that might sound.

[Anonymous No.4783564]

Something I’m working on

[Anonymous No.4783727]

>>4781142
Awesome

[Anonymous No.4783917]

Noodle boi

[Anonymous No.4784028]

Something from a few days ago

[Anonymous No.4784030]

>>4784028
Sorry forgot the pic

[Anonymous No.4784204]

>>4783369
Looks great anon. Did yiu consider adding a simple background

[Anonymous No.4784364]

>>4783347
look into learning edge variation. make some of the outer edges softer. right now you got only hard outer edges. varying your edges gives more interest to your painting and you can also guide your viewer to where you want them to look. here I quickly blended a little the light side keeping the shadow side edge hard

[Anonymous No.4784405]

>>4781825
your value map is all over the place. you got whitest white and darkest dark all over the image. the viewer doesn't know where to look. here I toned down the background leaving the whitest part in the figure. the viewer will be inclined to first look at the figure, which im assuming you'd want to be the focal point. not sure what the light things on top are supposed to be, assuming they are pillars, i added shading

[Anonymous No.4784415]

rnd drawing after some practices..

[Akirel No.4784435]

Sorry for the bad drawing.

[Anonymous No.4784449]

>>4784405
they are supposed to be pillars but they clearly don't look like pillars.
i promise i'll take this advice on composition to heart. someone else has already pointed out these problems although i prefer your value map just a bit

[Anonymous No.4784450]

>>4783407
You can. But that book also tells you about lighting which will really help you out.
>>4783917
Gif is cancer. Cant even look at the final.
>>4784435
Interesting. Keep going.

[Anonymous No.4784527]

[Anonymous No.4784820]

>>4784435
>>4782694
>>4782503
Neat

[Anonymous No.4784821]

>>4784820
Dis rad brah

[Anonymous No.4784939]

More digital practice

[Anonymous No.4785192]

>>4782503
another figure study. Took quite a bit longer to make becuase the soft lighting was tricky to make look right.

[Anonymous No.4785198]

>>4785192
When your gf won’t give you head or a handjob

[Akirel No.4785328]

>>4784435
Adjusted the values a bit to something more visually pleasing imo.

[Anonymous No.4785334]

>>4785328
This is worse. Change it back

[Akirel No.4785369]

>>4785328
Explain how it's worse.

[Anonymous No.4785424]

>>4785328
It seems muddier. Worse imo.

[Anonymous No.4785520]

[Anonymous No.4785540]

[Anonymous No.4785802]

Forcing myself to draw again and this is what I've got so far

[Anonymous No.4785804]

>>4785540
your linework is so shitty, stop doing this.

[Anonymous No.4785808]

>>4785540
Looks like shit. Go to /beg/ or alt for cartoony styles.

[Anonymous No.4785811]

>>4781133
I asked this in the Artbook thread but I haven't got an answer yet. Has someone a digital version of the dynamic bible from Peter Han with a mega link?
I would really appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4785834]

>>4785369
Akirel I've seen you in here for so much time, you are the most dense and defensive motherfucker in this board (and those are some of the worst traits a person can have), just wanted to tell you that.

[Anonymous No.4785852]

>>4785804
>>4785808
No u

[Anonymous No.4785860]

Did this in one sitting and I really can't see anything anymore. All I can see is that it's fucked in a bunch of ways. Halp.

[Anonymous No.4785874]

>>4785860
very cute, darker values on the hair, sharpen the edges on the collar, obviously render out the sleeves and hands, and then maybe give the background a gradient. you can also soften the gap between the lips. move ear a bit forward

[Anonymous No.4785878]

>>4784435
very early ruan jia of you

[Anonymous No.4785927]

>>4785852
This is still shit. No energy. Looks like a 5th grader drew it. My little brother can do better than you.

[Anonymous No.4785945]

>>4785874

Aiight. Will do! Thanks. I'll get back to this tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4785951]

>>4785927
You sound ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.4785972]

[Anonymous No.4785974]

>>4785972

[Anonymous No.4785990]

>>4785951
no, he sounds pretty spot on.

[Anonymous No.4785995]

>>4785540
>>4785852
I don't do alt art so take this with a grain of salt, I do agree with the other anons that the linework could improve, some of the characters look very low effort but overall I like your style, keep at it anon!

[Anonymous No.4785999]

>>4781142
>>4783369
Inspired me to draw a cute little snail for my fun drawing today, thanks Anon.
Yours looks pretty sick

[Anonymous No.4786000]

>>4785990
Incorrect. You have no idea what you’re talking about, samefriend. Do you want to know what’s going on?

[Anonymous No.4786013]

>>4785951
You sound upset.
>>4786000
You're mad that people are telling you your art is shit. Honestly you need to study cartoonists. This shit is trash.

[Anonymous No.4786014]

>>4785802
I realized that my vales were practically nonexistent so I'm going back in to correct it in b&w

Please feel free to tear this apart because it looks off proportion-wise but I cant tell why

[Anonymous No.4786017]

>>4785540
No appealing shapes. Bad sketches. No energy. Butch Hartman can do better, and he's notoriously known as shitty.
Go to /beg/. Study real cartoonists.

[Anonymous No.4786021]

>>4785995
Thanks! I’m drawing slower than I usually do as I’m trying out a new style.

>>4786013
To help mr. crab understand

[Anonymous No.4786033]

>>4786021
There's nothing to understand. You're /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4786045]

>>4786017
I will study cartoonists!

>>4786033
Then you don’t understand!

[Anonymous No.4786052]

>>4785860

Forgot to post this one. I also drew a man who is Mega. You could say that he is a "Mega Man".

[Akirel No.4786070]

>>4785424
It "seems" muddy. Okay, but do you know what causes a painting to look muddy?

[Anonymous No.4786071]

>>4786014
you have forgotten to shade nose. right ear should be lighter as it is in light side. also added some shading to clothing

[Anonymous No.4786078]

>>4786071
also it's not good to work with white background, as color is relative. use a midtone, low sat background so uou can see color and tone better

[Anonymous No.4786079]

Trying to get better at more complicated poses and perspectives. Does the receding leg look ok or no? What about the back?. Also not sure what to do with the far side arm/hand yet.

[Anonymous No.4786085]

>>4786070
Colors/tones looking too samey. The lighting helped distinguish the guy from his horse. Lack of rendering. The guys leg was darker and stood out more from the horse. His foot blends now.
I think the Napoleon painting variations might help you see what I'm talking about.
>>4786045
There's nothing to understand. Your stuff is /beg/. It lacks in a lot of aspects. The drawthread won't help you get better if you have a lack of understanding in the basics. /Alt/ is better for cartoony styles anyway. You have bad shape design, and no life in your drawings. No line of motion. It's lifeless. Everything is round in your sketches there's no variation. Your sketches need work that this thread can't help you with.

[Anonymous No.4786283]

>>4781289
>>4783727
>>4785999
Thanks for all the support (snail guy here)

[Anonymous No.4786294]

Studying clothes and stuff

[Anonymous No.4786299]

>>4786085
Woah I didn’t need a book! Cut that down to a few sentences and I’ll probably read it for you.

[Anonymous No.4786329]

Little Empress is going to the ball.

[Anonymous No.4786386]

>>4785860
little my is cute! cute!

[Anonymous No.4786390]

literally my first time posting here. how did i do?
ignore the bg, it was just to avoid having a gradient or white background.

[Anonymous No.4786412]

>>4786078
Ahhhh, I knew I was forgetting something. Normally I work on a grey background but I totally forgot this time. It explains why I kept pushing my values higher and higher

Thanks alot for your time and input, anon

[Anonymous No.4786461]

>>4781133
That pic reminds me of high school art classes, I always was weak at portraits. Sometimes i still wonder if im gmi.

[Anonymous No.4786492]

>>4786052
Did you do another realistically rendered Mega Man a while back?

[Anonymous No.4786690]

>>4786492

Uhh yeah. This one? Or was it someone else. I gave up on rendering him because I didn't like the changes I did to the design. Way too edgy and shit...

[Anonymous No.4786695]

>>4786690
Oh yah, looks good

[Anonymous No.4787033]

>>4785834
>>4785878
>>4785334
>>4785424

>The Incredible Akirel: Age of Ruanjia

[Anonymous No.4787036]

>>4787033
This is great

[Anonymous No.4787162]

>>4787036
I don get it

[Anonymous No.4787165]

[Anonymous No.4787168]

Everything I post comes up sideways

[Anonymous No.4787192]

WIP
I almost exclusively work in graphite
This is my first real attempt at an oil painting

[Anonymous No.4787197]

>>4787168
Because you’re taking it with your phone and not resizing you dumb faggot read the OP

[Anonymous No.4787203]

>>4787197
I only have dumb slow Mac would take 5ever to upload no time pee pee head

[Anonymous No.4787204]

>>4787165
NGMI , drawing a capitalist larping as a socialist.

[Anonymous No.4787218]

>>4787204
Nigger what?

[Anonymous No.4787231]

>>4787218
That looks like Hasanabi, streamer who larps as being a commie ("socialist") but is actually a capitalist who doesn't pay for art made by his fans (he used the art) and doesn't pay his youtube editors.

[Anonymous No.4787252]

>>4787231
Oh the “Woke bae” buzz feed faggot

I would’ve honestly rather you have said “you could’ve shaded this piece better it looks like a sack of shit”

[Anonymous No.4787254]

>>4787203
There are resize image phone apps you lazy cunt

[Anonymous No.4787255]

This is the ref btw

[Anonymous No.4787258]

>>4787254
TOO MUCH TIME I WANNA POST

[Anonymous No.4787368]

Finished

[Anonymous No.4787375]

>>4787368
Pretty nice
Reminds me of a self portrait I drew a couple months back

[Anonymous No.4787381]

>>4787375
Thanks man!
It’s actually a self-portrait too!

[Anonymous No.4787388]

>>4787381
Here lemme post mine
Its always the self portraits that get them feels

[Anonymous No.4787395]

>>4787381
>>4787375
Sorry you guys are both ugly

[Anonymous No.4787397]

>>4787388
Oh! Remember this one, really dramatic, pencil or ink?

[Anonymous No.4787403]

>>4787395
Blame my parents

[Anonymous No.4787406]

>>4787397
Pencil
I use 0.5 mm lead so it carves deep into the loke 300gm paper, gives an ink like feeling

[Anonymous No.4787412]

>>4787406
You should try scratchboard, seems like something you would like

[Anonymous No.4787518]

>>4785328
>visually pleasing imo.
BAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Akirel No.4787531]

>>4787518
Cringe.

[Anonymous No.4787544]

>>4787531
You forgot to remove your name akirel LMAO!

[Anonymous No.4787558]

>>4785328
>>4784435
I love it a lot, really. Do you have a blog, Twitter maybe?

[Anonymous No.4787644]

[Anonymous No.4787684]

>>4787544
shut the fuck up stupid crab

[Anonymous No.4787688]

>>4787684
hi akirel

[Anonymous No.4787742]

>>4787688
>>4787544
Basado.

[Anonymous No.4787990]

>>4787644
You should start a thread solely for posting your low effort art.

[Anonymous No.4788001]

>>4787990
pyw
>>4787644
Don't listen to the haters bud, like I said before I like your style, do you also work in digital? I would love to see some of these with some colors / shading similar to pic related.

[Photobasher/over painter No.4788188]

>>4786078
i like the hair

[Anonymous No.4788204]

>>4787644
There's no point in judging your work since you're just going to keep doing the same thing with no improvement.

[Anonymous No.4788310]

>>4788001
Damn, only now I noticed that the red/pink arrow in the character's hand looks a lot like dick. Shouldn't have added the veins I guess

[Anonymous No.4788379]

>>4783274
Watched comets for two hours then finished this one.

[Anonymous No.4788382]

>>4788379

[Akirel No.4788497]

>>4787558
https://www.instagram.com/akirelll/?hl=en

[Anonymous No.4788502]

>>4788379
>>4788382
literally cannot tell what this is supposed to be

[Anonymous No.4788532]

>>4788502

I think it's supposed to be some kind of bug with like a scortpion tail. Or maybe there's a bird sitting in the foreground. Or maybe it's spiderman with a hat and a scorpion body.

>>4788379
DESU I don't really think you should call this finished just yet.

[Anonymous No.4788628]

>>4788001
Thanks! I do work in digital, but first I’d like to do more traditional since I think I’ve neglected that for too long. Also it’s harder.

[Anonymous No.4788663]

>>4782027
I that book useful for digital painters? Or aimed at trad?

[Anonymous No.4788713]

>>4788001
>haters
>Giving legitimate criticism.
Pick one.

[Anonymous No.4788730]

Current work. Practicing w color pencils. If you have critique for me, let me have it.

[Anonymous No.4788753]

>>4788730
Looks neat. Now I have a small craving for some cotton candy, though.

[Anonymous No.4788764]

>>4782849
Awesome

[Anonymous No.4788778]

>>4788532
It's a finished pencil, a unfinished digital.

[Anonymous No.4788792]

>>4788778
Some people won't get what you do

[Anonymous No.4788801]

>>4788792
That's ok

[Anonymous No.4788874]

>>4788502
“Mushroom fellas driving a centipede”

[Anonymous No.4788882]

>>4783917
>>4784450
Sorry I won’t post gifs anymore.

[Anonymous No.4788909]

did some more of this ones

[Anonymous No.4788913]

>>4788909

[Anonymous No.4788916]

>>4788909
>>4788913
and finished this one and starting with a new one

[Anonymous No.4788923]

>>4788753
Hey thanks! Haha.

[Anonymous No.4789101]

>>4788916
Those black tags in her hair make me feel like I can pull one out and get a spot in line at the DMV.

[Anonymous No.4789171]

>>4788713
It isn't criticism to tell someone who's trying to go post somewhere else, if someone has shitty art it's probably the braindead moron that has nothing else to do than keep telling the same person that his art is shit and to go away.

[Anonymous No.4789288]

>>4789171
>It isn't criticism to tell someone who's trying to go post somewhere else
Except there is legitimate criticism in the replies to his work. Next telling someone to go to a thread that's better suited to help them isn't the worst thing to say. They're posting the same bad/dull art over and over again and getting the same critique. There really is no point helping them if they brush off everything. Akriel already exists.
>if someone has shitty art it's probably the braindead moron that has nothing else to do than keep telling the same person that his art is shit and to go away.
That has no effect on the legitimacy of their argument. He needs to be on /beg/ or /alt/ his stuff is not up to snuff right now.

[Anonymous No.4789302]

>>4789171
Why is it hating if he’s churning out low effort scribbles and not even trying? He deserves his own thread if he’s not going to make an effort to improve.

[Anonymous No.4789329]

[Anonymous No.4789333]

>>4789329
Very nice. Any other pieces?

[Anonymous No.4789334]

i tried posting this in the other thread and the only response i got was "this is sick dude nice shit" and i'm too dense to know whether that was sarcastic or not

[Anonymous No.4789336]

>>4789334
this is sick dude nice shit

[Anonymous No.4789339]

>>4789334
damn

[Anonymous No.4789347]

>>4789334
Dense faggot. This is very nice. Some of the hatching makes shit look really round though. Like the neck on the woman on the left. But for the most part it lands. Great job but kys for fishing for complements on obviously good work.

[Anonymous No.4789375]

>>4789347
thank you and i'd oblige but i'm such a dense faggot i'd probably botch it

[Anonymous No.4789379]

>>4789339
this is sick dude nice shit

[Anonymous No.4789385]

>>4789347
whats wrong with the dense aesthetic? I always thought it was impressive and reminiscent of movie posters

[Anonymous No.4789390]

>>4789385
Wow you are also dense lmao

[Anonymous No.4789457]

>>4788909
>>4788913
>>4788916
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4789587]

>>4789288
>>4789302
I disagree , I don't think his stuff is low effort, but I would love for you to pyw and see what kind of "quality" work some of you guys are able to make.

[Anonymous No.4789611]

>>4789587
Pro tip, I do post my work in /draw/. Just because he posts a lot of it doesn’t mean it’s not low effort. He’s been posting in the past several draw threads and people have been pointing him to /beg/ to get proper advice but instead he just mindlessly churns out garbage and dumps it here.

[Anonymous No.4789620]

>>4789587
I already posted my work in this thread. His stuff is low quality.

[Anonymous No.4789768]

>>4789611
Understood, I agree there's a lot he needs to improve , but to call it garbage or low effort is wrong, he's just alt style artist and I like his work, I don't see you or the other anon criticizing the other "low effort" art that I can see in this thread.
>>4789620
Mind showing me which one is yours? I would love to know what are your standards.

[Anonymous No.4789777]

>>4789768
He’s not alt style, he was posting cars and helicopters and ignoring people trying to help with perspective

[Anonymous No.4789788]

>>4789777
Are you saying those >>4787644
>>4785540>>4782954
>>4781742
aren't cartoons? Again he has a lot to learn, but I would love to see some of you guys' personal work.

[Anonymous No.4789812]

>>4789788
Check the draw threads, you might’ve (You)‘d me. If you have critique, let me know, others have and I’ve taken their advice and improved because of it. No one has called my work /beg/ and I’ve been asked for my blog several times. Maybe you’re already following me.

[Anonymous No.4789814]

>>4789768
>Mind showing me which one is yours? I would love to know what are your standards.
Kek, ok here's my current linework.
>>4781236
Now let's talk about why his stuff is low quality not low effort, and why it doesn't belong on this thread if he actually wants to improve.
It's not even his style. It's the fundamentals of cartooning and linework he's missing. Spamming his low quality work here is not going to help him draw better.
>don't see you or the other anon criticizing the other "low effort" art that I can see in this thread.
Weak deflection. I have criticized many pieces on this thread. Even a few lower quality ones. Pieces with quality too low or if they just seem like fap bait I just don't comment on. Simply put he shouldn't be on this thread if he wants to see real gains.

[Anonymous No.4789827]

Some fast portrait studies. I usually suck at values for portraits but i was able to get these 3 done in like one and a half hour which is fast for me.

[Anonymous No.4789837]

>>4789827
Mind posting your reference? The girl in 5he center and right look great. But the one on the left looks off.

[Anonymous No.4789853]

>>4785860

I think I'm about halfway done with my Little My- fan art thing. I tried to fix some of the stuff >>4785874 pointed out but I haven't started working on the BG or hair yet.

I know the rendering is pretty inconsistent at this stage but I'll try to make it more coherent moving forward. Do you guys think I should expand the image to the bottom and do her whole body? I just kind of feel like it cuts off weirdly atm.

Any feedback/overpaints welcome.

>>4786386

Ayyy, nice Snufkin! I like how the BG looks like some Finnish forest or fjeld (tunturi).

>>4786695
Cheers, buddy!

[Anonymous No.4789857]

>>4789837
Yeah, the left one was basically the warmup and i botched the drawing from the start. her name is helga_model on insta, her lastest post.

[Anonymous No.4789888]

>>4789812
>No one has called my work /beg/ and I’ve been asked for my blog several times. Maybe you’re already following me.
Well I will know if you show me your work.
>>4789814
Buddy maybe you shouldn't be acting like the bastion of "quality drawings" and calling other people's work "low quality" or "low effort" when this is the kind of stuff you make, and this is coming from a person who isn't even remotely good himself.

[Anonymous No.4789910]

>>4789888
>Buddy maybe you shouldn't be acting like the bastion of "quality drawings"
Never said I was. All I did was point out issues in his work and where he could get help. What I showed you was literally just linework and it has more fundies and life in it than any of his pieces.
>and calling other people's work "low quality" or "low effort" when this is the kind of stuff you make
The kind of stuff I make isn't even bad lmao. Nice reach. There's much more quality in what I drew than what he has produced all thread.
>and this is coming from a person who isn't even remotely good himself.
Ah yes now pyw or point it out. Or are you defending your own piece of shit?

[Anonymous No.4789928]

>>4789910
>>4789888
Why are guys fighting about a literal NGMI that probably finally fucked off to /beg/ where he belongs?

[Anonymous No.4789931]

>>4789928
Because I'm pretty sure the person arguing is that /beg/ anon.

[Anonymous No.4789933]

>>4789910
>Never said I was.
You sure are acting like you are.
>All I did was point out issues in his work and where he could get help. What I showed you was literally just linework and it has more fundies and life in it than any of his pieces.
You and the other anons are saying he should go to beg and that it's shit, sure he has a lot to improve, but if he likes how the drawings look and he wants to show them in here he should be able to without a bunch of idiots attacking him.
>The kind of stuff I make isn't even bad lmao. Nice reach. There's much more quality in what I drew than what he has produced all thread.
desu I prefer his cartoons more than what you did, but hey that's just my opinion, but if you are telling him to go to another thread or to /beg/ maybe you should follow him too.
>Ah yes now pyw or point it out. Or are you defending your own piece of shit?
>>4782694 here it is, as I said I'm not anything special or remotely good, but maybe you shouldn't be attacking people just for trying when your work isn't anything special too.

[Anonymous No.4789942]

>>4789928
Because I think he belongs here, you can criticize him all you want but at least pyw so we know what "standards" you are trying to maintain,

[Anonymous No.4789979]

>>4789933
>You sure are acting like you are.
By giving legitimate criticism and telling them a place to go for help better suited to what they need? Yeah sure.
>You and the other anons are saying he should go to beg and that it's shit, sure he has a lot to improve, but if he likes how the drawings look and he wants to show them in here
And people are allowed to critique his work and tell him better places to go to improve. The point of the draw thread are for people out of fundies to show their work for critiques on them. By sitting here and spamming more of the same low quality images over and over again it just shows he won't listen to any advice and it makes it pointless to help him. Multiple people have said go to the other threads for help. This is the least mean thing said on this board. What's the point of the "Artwork/Critique" board if you can't give out and take criticism? If you gave me legitimate advice about my piece I'd actually look at it and actually want to get better instead of acting like a fucking baby then say anybody shitting on me is a "hater". It's why people like Akriel exist.
>he should be able to without a bunch of idiots attacking him.
Wah how dare someone actually give helpful advice to someone just starting out wah! If this is what you call attacks I'd like to see you handle real belittling. I could of just said "Your work is fucking shit NGMI kys" and left it at that. Instead I actually pointed out specific issues with his work and what he could look at to improve, and where is a better place to post his obviously burgeoning stylized art.
He couldn't take that criticism and you decided actual advice is now being a "hater".

[Anonymous No.4789987]

>>4782567
You've got the basic observational skills down. Now as a stepping stone, I suggest you crank up the brush size and start working on laying down blocks of value. base colors, simplified values etc.
Rendering is a skill completely different from drawing so, you gotta work to it. Experiment a little, try out different workflows to see what clicks and improve :D

[Anonymous No.4790025]

>>4789979
>By giving legitimate criticism and telling them a place to go for help better suited to what they need? Yeah sure.
Except that wasn't productive or helpful criticism at all, and again that isn't my point if he likes how his drawings look and he wants to show them off he should be able to especially when there's people like me who would enjoy to see them, because like I said before I think his cartoon drawings were better than what you showed me.
>And people are allowed to critique his work and tell him better places to go to improve..etc.
And as I said again if he's proud enough of his work he should be able to post it in here, but what you guys were saying wasn't any actual productive critique.
>Wah how dare someone actually give helpful advice to someone just starting out wah! ...etc.
Except most of you guys weren't even doing that, the only person that gave him anything close to a real advice is this guy >>4786017 , and I had already told him that he needs to better his linework, but again with my main point is that he wanted to show what he was proud of in here and he should be able to do it, if we are judging things about how appealing they are since I find his stuff more appealing than yours you should probably take your own advice and go to /beg/ .

[Anonymous No.4790046]

>>4789942
I do post my work here retard

[Anonymous No.4790060]

>>4790046
I never said you didn't, I told you to show me or that anon you are calling "literal NGMI" what your work is, whether that is replying to it or adding the file with your criticism.

[Anonymous No.4790068]

>>4790060
Look at all the work in this thread. Most of it isn’t /beg/. That’s been the standard of /draw/ and reason why people made /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4790114]

>>4790068
That's too subjective, what I may consider beg can be something completely different to what you consider beg, I personally enjoyed the cartoons of that anon more than the art of the guy shitting on him, so do they both go to beg including the guy that was telling him to go there? I've also seen people in previous threads telling someone who I consider a much better artist than me to go back to beg just because he has a very "different" style to what's considered "normal".
If someone is confident enough should be able to show of his art in here, just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean other people wouldn't like to see it.

[Anonymous No.4790120]

>>4790025
>Except that wasn't productive or helpful criticism at all, and again that isn't my point if he likes how his drawings look and he wants to show them off he should be able to especially when there's people like me who would enjoy to see them, because like I said before I think his cartoon drawings were better than what you showed me
And multiple other people find what he did to be bad and don't want to see his work in this thread. You aren't the only one in this thread faggot.
>And as I said again if he's proud enough of his work he should be able to post it in here, but what you guys were saying wasn't any actual productive critique.
Giving someone a much better location to critique and improve their work isn't good advice? A place that specializes in alternative styles?
"Oh dude there's a club that actually looks at cartoons and knows more about cartoon appeal."
"Nah man let me go get shit on by the anime club."
>Except most of you guys weren't even doing that, the only person that gave him anything close to a real advice is this guy>>4786017#
Guess who wrote that comment? I know /alt/ will actually help him out since I actually do love cartoons.
>he wanted to show what he was proud of in here and he should be able to do it
And everyone else can rip on it if they please. Don't get upset when your work gets called out. You're on 4chan on the /ic/ board. It's the least scathing thing said to anyone on this board.
>if we are judging things about how appealing they are since I find his stuff more appealing than yours you should probably take your own advice and go to /beg/.
Kek, just because my work doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean I need to go to /beg/. The difference between his and my work is fundamentals. I follow the basic fundamentals of my style. He doesn't follow fundamentals of a cartoon style.
At this point you're acting as if his sketches are equal to my linework just because it doesn't appeal to YOU. That's bad criticism.

[Anonymous No.4790123]

[Anonymous No.4790125]

>>4790114
If you have reasons why he should go to /beg/ go ahead and point him to /beg/. I told the other guy he’d find better resources for perspective in /beg/ but he would rather shitpost than improve. I don’t give a shit either way if he wants to stay bad lol.

[Anonymous No.4790150]

>>4790120
It's like talking to a wall, just because he should learn the basics from somewhere else doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to post in here if he's proud of his art.
>Kek, just because my work doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean I need to go to /beg/. The difference between his and my work is fundamentals. I follow the basic fundamentals of my style. He doesn't follow fundamentals of a cartoon style.
At this point you're acting as if his sketches are equal to my linework just because it doesn't appeal to YOU. That's bad criticism.

I find much more appealing the flow his cartoon sketches than how stiff, terrible angled, unappealing proportioned and overall unappealing line work you decided to show off , I seriously think he did a better job at the style he was trying to make than what you did with yours, yet I still wouldn't think you should only post in beg and neither should he, criticize his art all you want but he should still be able to post in here if he's proud of his work, because if we are going by your standards you should go before he does.

[Anonymous No.4790152]

>>4790125
>If you have reasons why he should go to /beg/ go ahead and point him to /beg/.
This entirely. I didn't tell him his style was shit but that he needed improvement in his cartoon style. Meaning line of motion, appealing shape, and character design. If you had actual criticism besides "it doesn't appeal to me" then it's something different. There are works that don't appeal to me but I can look at the technical skill and appreciate what they've done.
>he’d find better resources for perspective in /beg/
Multiple anons have said this. /alt/ as well. Probably the best place for his cartoon style.
>he would rather shitpost than improve
Also this.
>I don’t give a shit either way if he wants to stay bad lol
And finally this. There's only so much help you can give before you give up. He wants to stay at his level then he can. But don't pretend people are "hating" on him for drawing cartoons. It's a pisspoor way to ignore criticism.

[Anonymous No.4790154]

>>4790150
Lmao this brainlet permabeg

[Anonymous No.4790174]

>>4790154
??

[Anonymous No.4790201]

>>4789101
lmao, maybe you can!
>>4789457
you can see more of my work here anon: marcoluna.co
dont have any social media acc

[Anonymous No.4790204]

>>4790152
>>4790114
>>4790068
>>4790046

Please just SHUT THE FUCK UP! Nobody cares about this shit. Just make a new thread for your lover's quarrel and be done with it. There's no reason to fill the whole Draw Thread with this petty bullshit. He's beg. He's not beg. You're beg. Nobody fucking cares. Just go draw something or go take a walk. I don't care. Just get this shit outta here.

[Anonymous No.4790207]

>>4790150
>stiff
His work is stiff. Especially for a cartoon. Which is why I pointed out he needs to study line of motion and other cartoonists.
>terrible angled
Which angle? This is vague criticism unlike the ones given to him.
>unappealing proportioned
That's just the style of the characters I'm redrawing, and even then that's a nitpick on proportions you just dont like. Do you even understand what fair criticism is?
>overall unappealing line work you decided to show off
Again more nitpicks. You could mention any of the linework on Beerus's torso and that would be a fair critique since he's still a sketched out design. But you're just mentioning personal preference.
>I seriously think he did a better job at the style he was trying to make than what you did with yours
And multiple anons here believe he didn't. I love cartoons. And I would study them and the cartoonists concept art and character sheet. He lacks in a lot of those lessons needed. So once more /alt/ is more his style. Where they could actually help him.
I've posted my shit in /draw/ and got pushed out for being below the line. I wasn't mad I just started studying more until my shit was acceptable. Do I still have a way to go? Yes. But I'm not as far back as he is in my own style on the basics.
The threads are separated for a reason. It's not to act better than someone starting out, but to give them better resources to hit their stride.

[Anonymous No.4790215]

>>4790207
You know you only get pushed out if you let the crabs pull you into their bucket instead. Calm down.

[Anonymous No.4790230]

>>4790215
Jesus Christ now any bit of legitimate criticism is crabbing?
Fuck it you're hopeless. No point in arguing over it.
>>4790123
They don't look the same. Draw over the features of your reference and compare it with your drawing. Then try to redraw it.

[Anonymous No.4790238]

> But you're just mentioning personal preference.
You are almost there, just push a little more and you will be self aware
>>4790207
>I just started studying more until my shit was acceptable
I think it didn't work.
>I've posted my shit in /draw/ and got pushed out for being below the line. I wasn't mad I just started studying more until my shit was acceptable. Do I still have a way to go? Yes. But I'm not as far back as he is in my own style on the basics.
The threads are separated for a reason. It's not to act better than someone starting out, but to give them better resources to hit their stride.
Just because you accepted getting bullied into submission doesn't mean all the other people starting out should, and again like I've said time and time again my main point is whether or not he post in Beg or Alt it's irrelevant if he likes his work and is proud of it he should be able to post it in here, if you don't like it you can tell him what you don't like but don't try to push him out to only being in beg threads, because if he doesn't meet this place's standard in my opinion neither do you.

[Anonymous No.4790246]

>>4790230
I'm not anyone you were talking to, trying to say it looks being abrasive and argumentative the way you respond to others here.

[Anonymous No.4790250]

>>4790238
Stay mad and bad, /beg/ B^)

[Anonymous No.4790255]

>>4790250
Nice projection.

[Anonymous No.4790317]

>>4790246
Because this is an argument. So of course I'll look argumentative(and I am). He's been coming up with bs excuses for someone multiple anons have pointed out for several threads. There's no point in separating the threads if everyone at every level posts in the drawthread. Especially when other threads are designed to help certain skillsets. What's the point of critiquing someone's art if they're just going to brush it off and spam their low quality work? Either way there's no point in arguing about it any further. He'll just repeat the same braindead argument. "Well I like it, and I don't like yours. Here's my personal preferences on art. So it's totally the same as you telling him his artwork is lacking in fundies for his own style."
Can't argue with stupid.

[Anonymous No.4790325]

>>4790317
Yours is lacking in fundamentals too you fucking moron. You are peak dunning kruger lol, if his art belongs in beg yours does too.
Either ways for 1000th time that doesn't matter because both of you who are at a beg level should still be able to post the artwork you are proud of in here while also posting and learning in beg.

[Anonymous No.4790388]

>>4790204
pyw beg

[Anonymous No.4790402]

>>4790325
I'm going to throw my hat into the ring. It's weird how you claim their work lacks fundies yet you never say which ones. All of your complaints are personal preference rather than anything objective. Several anons have pointed out the low quality cartoon art and gave good advice for the last several threads.
Then you compare this>>4781236
to this >>4785852 as if the levels are anywhere near each other. It's obvious which is /beg/ and which isn't.
Then you say post in /beg/ and yet you ignore that he doesn't go to beg and is spamming his shit here. Instead of the several threads specified to help him out. Anon you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.4790406]

>>4790388

I did. I will. Because this is the fucking draw thread! I just hate how this site is just deteriorating. I don't even look at anything other than these Draw Threads anymore because most of the shit is just bait/politics-related or trying to figure out which YouTuber/Artist said the stupidest shit this week or which tablet is better. I don't fucking care. I just want people to critique my artwork and give feedback to others. You know... Like... "Artwork/Critique"? Just don't bring your shit here. It's a huge waste of your time and it takes the focus from what these threads are actually about.

[Anonymous No.4790412]

>>4781133
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>>4790123
>>>/beg/

[Anonymous No.4790417]

I feel like it's lacking

[Anonymous No.4790435]

>>4790417
Squiggle vision on him will make it seem more lively.

[Anonymous No.4790437]

>>4790412
it's chugging along

[Anonymous No.4790440]

>>4785328
The horse with both hooves up will feel better and more dynamic tan with one down. Also the neck of the horse on the first one looked better
I honestly liked the values better before, too

[Anonymous No.4790443]

>>4789853


One more quick update. Fixed the scarf a bit. I hate that it has to be pink. I wanna finish this tomorrow.

>>4790417

Love this style! Brings me back to my horrible childhood. I think you could have some movement on the bg as well. Just have some of the lights on the walls pulsate a little bit as well. Not sure if it would make it too busy though. What did you use to animate this, if I may ask?

[Anonymous No.4790450]

>>4790443
Aseprite. I wanted to but it would look to busy imo.

[Anonymous No.4790462]

>>4790443
didn't little my have green eyes?

[Anonymous No.4790472]

>>4789853
Thanks! Are you Finnish? The reference is actually Hossa national park in Finland. I added Snufkin since my landscape painting was bland and muddy. I love Finland and can't wait to go back!

[Anonymous No.4790473]

>>4790462

Yeah. I’ll make them a brighter green color later on.

[Anonymous No.4790474]

>>4790402
In my opinion >>4781236 's work is unappealing, everything is stiff, Beerus' head is facing a different direction than the rest of his body, and it doesn't look it was intended to be that way since the angle makes it hard to see but you know something is off, horrible hands (that's part of the reason why he chose to hide Beerus hands behind his back), unable to see her left ear even though from this angle it should be perfectly visible, doesn't know how to draw human ears, ball and wings of the nose are completely facing the viewer while the rest of the face has a noticable completely different angle , there seems to be a disconnect between the direction her torso is facing to what her torso clothing is facing ( or it's just so poorly drawn that it makes it seem that way), look how much shorter her upper left chest is to her right chest (direction from the viewer), there is something extremely wrong with her neck but I can't tell if it's because of how fucked so many things in her chest and face are or if it's also wrong ( I would have to do a red line to tell and I'm too busy with my own drawing to bother), right eye ( her left eye) is considerably bigger than the other, hair twirls facing completely different directions, forehead piece off center and tilted towards the opposite direction than the top of hair (not the twirls although those are also tilted towards a different direction, left cheek bone (her right cheek bone) considerably larger than the other, overall her lower body appears to be facing directly the viewer (an effect caused by clothes's direction, or rather his incompetence of making the clothes appear to be facing the direction he intended) which makes a very jarring effect due the conflicting directions.
I could keep going on and on about all the things that are wrong, I'll give him at least credit for the clothes folds, which are in my opinion the best part of his drawing but even those look stiff and not like actual cloth.

[Anonymous No.4790477]

>>4785811
it's on libgen

[Anonymous No.4790485]

>>4790472

Yeah, I’m Finnish. Something about your colors reminded me of Eero Järnefelt’s stuff (pic related) even if it is a little muddy. The character defininitely helps bring the piece together.

I’ve never actually been to Hossa or anywhere that far north, so you win. Welcome back when shit gets better though!

[Anonymous No.4790501]

>>4790402
>All of your complaints are personal preference rather than anything objective
No, it's unappealing because of his lack of fundamentals.
> It's obvious which is /beg/ and which isn't.
No, you think "more lines = good" in my other reply I already said all of it's problems. I never said the cartoonist wasn't a beg, but in my opinion the difference isn't enough so that he can be acting like the bastion of what should be posted in here, if he feels proud enough of his sketches that he wants to show them in here, he should be able to, this idiot is acting like an elitist for no reason whatsoever.
I already said that the cartoonist should post in beg and alt to improve but he should be able to also post in here if he wants.
>levels are anywhere near each other.
They are very different art styles , but I CAN imagine pic related cartoonist' character (and many of the other characters he drew) drawn with some cleaner lines and beautiful colors (like the example I showed him) but I can't imagine the cunt's art colored without being a horrible mess, at best it would look like 1 of those devianart 2000 anime fan arts.
So you see , I think one has more potential and the other doesn't and the cartoonist mistakes would be much easier and faster to correct than all of the mistakes made by the other moron who doesn't even acknowledge them. ( to be clear many of the mistakes the moron makes, are the ones I make in my own art, and I'm in no way or form better than any of them)

[Anonymous No.4790519]

[Anonymous No.4790552]

>>4790474
>>4790501
Oh wow actual fucking criticism instead of “I don’t like your style.”
Besides several of your criticisms being just plain wrong or just conjecture.
Cartoons are astounding easier than drawing a more realistic fully detailed work. Here’s one I shit out.
>elitist for no reason whatsoever.
Wah, how dare not just this anon but several anons point out he shouldn’t be here wah. How dare people mention he needs to be on a thread better suited to him wah!
>the difference isn't enough
You’re blind as fuck.
>more lines = good
No, more complexity and the handling of the subject matter does. You can mention my perspective issues, but forget his cartoon deals with none of that. Even proportions aren’t held to a modest standard. If I were to draw his work and he were to draw mine I could achieve his cartoon style much easier than he could my style.
>doesn't even acknowledge them.
You just pointed them out retard. Your comparison is so fucking bad it’s retarded.
>I can't imagine the cunt's art colored without being a horrible mess, at best it would look like 1 of those devianart 2000 anime fan arts.
I imagine the other anon colors with fucking crayons. Even with my perspective issues my art can look well rendered to the point where most people won’t notice them. The final image matters the most.
>cartoonist mistakes would be much easier and faster to correct than all of the mistakes made by the other
Because it’s a fucking cartoon you tard. “Oh wow this cartoon is much easier to correct than this much more realistic drawing.” In this situation less lines easier to correct.
You shit out a ton of critiques as if my work is on par with his fucking Mandy drawing. Neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.4790588]

>>4790402
See >>4790552 he can't take criticism
>Besides several of your criticisms being just plain wrong or just conjecture.
>>4790552 you will stay forever being a beg, none of the criticism I said was wrong or conjecture, your mistakes are bright as day, you are in denial and completely blinded by your own work, the perfect example of dunning kruger, except that you will never get to the other side of the graph.
Even me, with my shitty art full of errors, I'm still able to see all of your mistakes.
Look >>4790519 the anon made another set of characters that look much better than your work, and I already see he's starting to fix some of his previous mistakes in proportions and shapes, yet you are still bitching about him posting his art in here, seems like in no time he will pass you and you'll be the only one left in /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4790634]

>>4790588

Mistakes =/= /beg/

I can't believe you're so tilted about someone calling out a person for posting in the wrong thread--especially when said person has been doing so for days now and annoying the shit out of other anons.

Doesn't matter how many mistakes he made, anon's drawing of Beerus and the other chick is still leagues ahead of the cartoon guy. It takes a lot more skill to draw what he's drawing than it does to make the kind of quality cartoons other anon makes. I would place him at maybe low-int.

I just got a fair amount of criticism for a digital painting I posted earlier, and I myself am farther ahead developmentally than both of them. Each art tier has it's own set of mistakes; just that with each tier, they become less and less severe until it's hardly noticeable. Artists never stop improving, for fuck's sake even the art teachers I look up to who spend their lives teaching art are always learning new things.

Having said that, I also am unimpressed with cartoon guy's work because the majority of it looks like it was copied off of cartoon stills, or a Frankenstein of other art styles. Not to mention I can see his erased line-work. Anyone can become a copy machine, but it takes the fundamentals to draw well from imagination.

So cartoon guy needs to get in /beg/ or /alt/ like everyone's been telling him for the last few days instead of shit posting and causing people to start petty drama and White knighting people on fucking 4chan.

[Anonymous No.4790639]

>>4790588
> Beerus' head is facing a different direction than the rest of his body, and it doesn't look it was intended to be that way
It is.
> horrible hands
Agree
>(that's part of the reason why he chose to hide Beerus hands behind his back)
False. It’s his standard pose. If I was afraid of hands I wouldn’t be showing hers.
>clothes issues/Galaxia
I’ll agree with you on her. Most of her perspective issues are problems. She went through many pose changes outfit changes and is ultimately unfinished just like Beerus. It doesn’t discredit my argument at all. Especially since you couldn’t tackle them.
>I'm still able to see all of your mistakes.
Oh my goodness anon! It’s almost like I posted it here to see my mistakes at a faster rate with fresh eyes by a group of artists.
Even my shitty perspective issues can be overcome with good rendering pic related. I’m not amazing. I’m not better than half the people in this thread. But I’m still not /beg/ unlike your friend. Kys.

[Anonymous No.4790654]

>>4790634
Well we will agree to disagree, I think the cartoon guy should post in here if he wants.

[Anonymous No.4790663]

Feel too mediocre still to start drawing my own ideas. Anything but studying feels like a waste of time because I know I’m gonna fail. Anyone have a similar issue? Or am I going about it the right way?

[Anonymous No.4790664]

>>4790639
Rendering doesn't fix those problems, the only thing that will end up happening is you will have polished a turd.

[Anonymous No.4790665]

>>4790654

Sorry to be harsh, but it doesn't matter what you think. Lots of anons don't like him clogging the threads when places like /beg/ and /alt/ exist specifically for people like him. Just stop while you're ahead and move on, dude.

[Anonymous No.4790666]

>>4790663

Studies are great, but don't forget to also do personal pieces for enjoyment too, even if they're not perfect.

Personal pieces keep up your passion, passion fuels your studies, studies end with new personal pieces to create more passion and so on.

[Anonymous No.4790680]

>>4790634
I appreciate the compliment. I agree wholeheartedly. I’m not great definitely not better than most people in this thread. I’m trying to pump out more finished pieces from imagination and still use references to build my skill. I’m much better with animals from imagination than people (pic related), and I’m trying to overcome that.
>>4790664
I worded that wrong. But yeah I agree. Rendering just hides your mistakes better to the casual eye.
>>4790654
I’m over this at this point. I’ll let the thread speak for itself.

[Anonymous No.4790877]

>>4790477
thanks

[Anonymous No.4791041]

fuckin with a stipple brush last night

[Anonymous No.4791167]

[Anonymous No.4791269]

>>4791167

This is great. I want to see more of your work

[Anonymous No.4791350]

>>4790412

Can we see some of your work? :)

[Anonymous No.4791380]

https://youtu.be/5aYBHfhTW_0
https://youtu.be/5ushKbuCMSY
are these any good?
i know there are better options but as far as markers go this is as close as i can aquire due to reasons.

[Anonymous No.4791381]

>>4791350
Probably the ones not marked /beg/

[Anonymous No.4791436]

just came to see this board
is everyone here really this toxic

[Anonymous No.4791439]

>>4791436
If you only knew how bad things really are.

[Anonymous No.4791460]

>>4791436
where are people being toxic, they are lovely in here

[Anonymous No.4791470]

>>4791436
Good. Get out.

[Anonymous No.4791500]

>>4790412
Everyone this is the /ic mega troll known as Salty-Kun. He's been doing this same shit on here for years. He calls people who are better than him /beg so that's pretty much 99% of /ic. Just ignore him. Stop feeding this faggot.

[Anonymous No.4791537]

>>4791436
no they're just pretending

[Anonymous No.4791789]

>>4790443
>>4789853

Tried to paint the rest of her body and have her sitting down. I'm not great with drapery and I'm not sure if the pose makes any sense. If you guys think this looks like shit I'll just go back to the portrait version and finish it instead...

I also did a quick rim light test to see how that'd look. Won't render the hair before I have the pose and other shit locked down. This is turning out to be much more difficult than I originally intended. Feed mah back.

[Anonymous No.4791806]

>>4790412
Thanks

[Anonymous No.4791859]

>>4791789
The rendering on her clothes looks great. The rim light color is strange since nothing in the background resembles any blue light source. It does make it stand out though. Not sure about that color rim light though. Everything else is so warm then that blue is just jarring to me.
Overall I love it and can’t wait to see more.

[Anonymous No.4791870]

>>4782849
ok zola

[Anonymous No.4791884]

>>4782694
Is that mozgus? I know you’re going for realism but I would box his nose a bit more. Him smashing his face onto stone floors repeatedly is part of his character.

[Anonymous No.4791889]

>>4791436
Yes, try /i/

[Anonymous No.4791890]

>>4791859

Thank you so much for your thoughts! Yeah, I originally used the blue just because it made it easier for me to see it on the character but it definitely is out of place. I'll probably go with something more traditional like this. Still need to think about where it's hitting though. The placement is a bit lazy at this stage.

[Anonymous No.4791895]

>>4791884
Yes it's Mozgus, I tried to do it more square, but it didn't looked that good, I will try it again some other day.

[Anonymous No.4791930]

>>4791789
The color is ok, but its a bit dull looking. Added more rimlight and some shine to the clothes to make them pop a bit more and brightened the eye whites.

[Anonymous No.4791942]

>>4791930

This is actually great and it makes a much more confident statement. I'll shoot for something similar but I think I'll keep the warmer rim. Thanks a bunch.

[Anonymous No.4791946]

>>4791895
Probably the uncanny valley of having something as unrealistic as a square nose rendered realistically. Even >>4791884 looks fake though we know it’s real. Maybe look at boxers broken noses as references.

[Anonymous No.4791951]

>>4791930
I think the reason this rimlight is better is it’s more saturated especially against the red. In >>4791789 the rimlight desaturating in the dress comes across as muddy.

[Anonymous No.4791970]

>>4781144
Looks Cool , One thing that I noticed Was The Axe looks Like it's Paper Thin . You should definitely give it some volume.

[Anonymous No.4792169]

Id appreciate any help and critique on this

[Anonymous No.4792178]

>>4792169
Is this min min? I dig the angle but I think the head is a bit big, even if it’s closer to the viewer.

[Anonymous No.4792322]

i dont know anything about color or value.i drew this but it looks so strange. the reason is because i gave every color it's own layer so its easy to change if i dont like it and then i did all the shadows and highlights in 1 layer each. i didnt want shadows and highlights to be black and white so i made the shadows a dark blue and highlights a yellow. assume the light source is straight above or maybe slight to the left.

[Anonymous No.4792324]

>>4792322
any advice so i can make this look less fucked up?

[Anonymous No.4792336]

>>4792324
Learn fundamentals, trace drawings from masters and pros so you can see how they draw, make studies of more art, draw from reference, draw from life, use this to learn what colors look good together : color.adobe.com/create/color-wheel , study from the video course thread and draw with the video and do the assignments, repeat all that x5 and then you can finally try to make your picture again.

[Anonymous No.4792339]

>>4792322
>>4792324
I’m guessing it’s too ambitious for your current level. If you want it to look like a finished polished piece, recommend focusing on one thing and simplifying.
eg
>focus on linework and have it clean (anatomy is off btw) and leave colors flat
>I don’t recommend you try rendering yet
>focus on lighting and just have hard cast shadows in black and white or simple cel shaded

You have a lot you need to work in on, break down any single aspect like perspective, anatomy, lighting, material, and work on that and I would consider that a success.

[Anonymous No.4792413]

>>4792336
>>4792339
i was really only asking about values.

[Anonymous No.4792429]

>>4792413
Well your values are fucked because you don’t understand lighting or composition in general

[Anonymous No.4792558]

[Anonymous No.4792591]

>>4792429
which is why im asking for advice on lighting.

[Anonymous No.4792644]

>>4790437
huehue will work more on this tomorrow

[Anonymous No.4792646]

>>4792558
Nice.

[Anonymous No.4792886]

>>4792169

This is great! Just don't fuck it up.

>>4790680

The thumb looks pretty nice. Stop wasting your time on all the individual feathers if you're going to paint the thing anyway. It's not going to be better if you draw a bunch of U-shapes on the bird. 'Drawing' feathers is a whole other thing but I don't think you should be focusing on that right now.

My friend did a pretty cool study of a bird a while back. Maybe you should check it out! It's a pretty good example of going from simple, bunched up values into more detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_DIU6PwZo

>4790519

I could never ever do something like this. If you could just render this shit out, you'd be the shit! I hope you work on your other artistic disciplines as well!

>>4792558
This looks like something you could sell to a stock service. Like a pop-up that says "HEY DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU COULD SAVE 5$ IF YOU..." It's not bad. It's actually really good. It looks fucking authentic!

>>4788882

I like the idea in your piece and some of the muscles look pretty cool (apart from the split bicep on Wolvie) but the posing on makes him seem a little floaty so get some more reference for this stuff. Try to stay away from gray shadows. It really kills everything if you start blending shadows toward 0 saturation black!

[Anonymous No.4792888]

>>4792886

I guess

>4790519 was supposed to be:
>>4790519

I'm so sorry.

[Anonymous No.4794174]

Is she ready for color? Also it feels boring, what can I do to improve it?

[Anonymous No.4794238]

>>4794174

I don't think it's boring at all. You're probably just bored from looking at it. I think you could block out toads body anatomy a bit more. Maybe bring the realism of his body anatomy up by like 10% since everything else is so realistic.

[Anonymous No.4794333]

>>4794238
makes sense
I started this thing months ago then forgot about it until this week
And will do, thank you for your time anon

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[Anonymous No.4794886]

are the subjects recognizable enough? can you tell who they are?

[Anonymous No.4794897]

Think I want to try and paint this traditionally

[Anonymous No.4795029]

>>4794886
No.

[Anonymous No.4795069]

Workin