Do your clients see your real name on your paypal invoices?

[Anonymous No.4764836]

Once they pay you money do they see exactly who it went to?

And what payment processor do you use for your art commissions?

[Anonymous No.4764899]

We meet at a bench, we sit facing opposite directions, I say "loo" and I previously instructed my client to say "mis". He hands me the money and I leave the piece on the bench, resting on his back, he then has to wait a minute to turn around and grab it

[Anonymous No.4764907]

>>4764836
Haha that would be so embarrassing, imagine if they stepped on him lol

[Anonymous No.4764958]

>>4764836
>no shimapan
No taste - pass

[Anonymous No.4765021]

>>4764907
Imagine a sit. Or four.

>>4764899
Your client's name: Miss. Loo.
Next drop off location? A loo

[Anonymous No.4765027]

>>4764836
I really don't know, i hope they don't.

[Anonymous No.4765034]

>>4764836
Wait... am I supposed to be generating invoices? I just have people send me money to my account name

[Anonymous No.4765050]

>>4765034
Yes
Looking something like this

[Anonymous No.4765059]

>>4765027
They do.

[Anonymous No.4765073]

>>4765050
based and goya pilled. thanks for this

[Anonymous No.4765075]

>>4765050
What if I don’t create the invoice, I’ve done like 8 commissions and they’ve just sent the requested dollar amount as a transfer.

Do I need to create a back invoice?

[Anonymous No.4765119]

>>4765075
They probably send you money with the Friends and Family option to dodge fees or because they don't know any better. It gets your account frozen in no time. Write invoices from now on. They will see your personal data no matter how you receive the money anyway.

[Anonymous No.4765122]

>>4764836
they can even find where you live just from your email https://medium.com/@whatismyip/3-easy-ways-to-find-someones-ip-address-70a26782fa89

[Anonymous No.4765142]

>>4764836
Yeah, but I mean who honestly gives a crap
If you're any good people will find out your real name eventually anyway

[Anonymous No.4765150]

>>4765122
Guess I shouldn't send emails without a vpn. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4765158]

>>4765073
Welcome anon

[Anonymous No.4765169]

Just use commiss.io if you want anonymity. They use stripe though, no PayPal for transactions. However, everything is anonymous (if you want it to be).

[Anonymous No.4765194]

I don't want people to know my name is Dick

[Anonymous No.4765209]

>>4765059
then being anonymous and make furry porn for money is just a stupid meme.

[Anonymous No.4765215]

Wait is this shit for real? I plan on doing fetish porn commissions and I don't want my fellow degenerates seeing my real name. Can't I make an alternate account that just shows a business name like 'Anon's Commissions' or something?

[Anonymous No.4765235]

>>4765215
If it helps, you get to see their full info as well. You can hide everything on the invoice. They have to view the transaction details on the PayPal homepage to see your info. Barely any of your clients will be aware of that anyway.

[Anonymous No.4765265]

>>4765235
wtf there has to be a way for it to be anonymous

[Anonymous No.4765288]

>>4765265
Cryptocurrency.

[Anonymous No.4765302]

>>4765265
99.9% of your clients are expecting to pay you with PayPal. You will rarely come across someone who uses crypto. What do you think are they going to do with your information? Absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous No.4765330]

>>4765302
they will know that mr. anon anonyezy anonence likes to draw big dicked futas...

[Anonymous No.4765334]

>>4765302
I just value my internet privacy. There is absolutely no reason that clients should see my name or anything, and if there's a way to get around it I'd prefer to do that.

[Anonymous No.4765344]

>>4765334
There's arty.ooo i guess, few anons posted about it, never tried it myself tho

[Anonymous No.4765372]

>>4765302
Real clients use bank wire transfer.

[Anonymous No.4765439]

>>4765265

Maybe do commissions on patreon on a high tier. They'll never know your name

[Anonymous No.4765587]

>>4765439
You can't sell on Patreon. It's not allowed and also a pain to pull off. You can only get paid at the beginning of the month. You would have to delete and create reward tiers everytime someone wants a commission to have any control over it. On top of all of it Patreon is taking their cut.

[Anonymous No.4765613]

>>4765119
Thanks for the info. I still get a 3.7% fee, and its a paypal business account. I’ll do the invoices next time. It’s just a few hundred dollars. I’m probably flying under the radar.

[Anonymous No.4765671]

>>4765613
Fees are the same for every account type. With Business your clients can pay with credit card without an extra fee. That's all.
You might run into trouble if the business that your Business account is registered on is fake as you can't prove ownership of it if your account gets frozen. You can ask support to change your account type back.
Business accounts are useful for companies with multiple employees who run online shops and stuff. It's pointless for artists.

[Anonymous No.4765710]

>>4765265
>>4765169

[Anonymous No.4765763]

>>4765209
took you fucking long enough

[Anonymous No.4765779]

>>4765763
Why is that shitty meme so popular?

[Anonymous No.4765785]

Wait, wait, wait... If it's supposedly super difficult to hide your real name when selling commissions through PayPal, how have all the coomer artists not been doxed yet? You'd think the names of all these people would be public knowledge if it's so easy to figure out.

[Anonymous No.4765794]

>>4765785
This.
Feels like this thread is just a bunch of liars.
Why? Because the infos they provided don't correlate with the current state of reality.

[Anonymous No.4765806]

>>4765785
>>4765794

Maybe they use this?
this thread makes no sense, if it's that easy to dox. I want to test the paypal invoice thing but I can't.

[Anonymous No.4765939]

Why do I have to give my address when paying an invoice over paypal? While I obviously don't believe the worst in anons I comission off 4chan, they're clearly just looking for money and aren't going to harass every person that commissions them, I don't really feel comfortable giving my address to people. It really doesn't seem optional either as I can't NOT give my address even though I'm not having anything shipped to me.

[Anonymous No.4765961]

>make main paypal account with my actual bank info and details
>make dummy business account with character name as alias
>have clients send money to that account, then transfer money to main account and immediately to my bank so (((paypal))) can't rob me

[Anonymous No.4765997]

>>4765194
>Dick
H...hot...

[DROOWER No.4766053]

>>4765997
I-IM OHHHHHHH I-I-I-IM G-GONNA UGH I-M AHHHHHHHH IM C-COOOOOOOOOMING

[Anonymous No.4766054]

>created paypal business account
>the invoice only has the business name even if I have access to the client's info
>ask him if he can find my name, says he can't
Did I miss something, it isn't actually anonymous?

[Anonymous No.4766092]

paypal is such faggot shit

[Anonymous No.4766113]

>itt: retards who don't know how to use google
Why is this board in particular so technologically inept
Business account, then fuck around in the settings and change the info that shows up on your invoices. These are some advanced procedures, it's recommended that you do not attempt this unless your IQ is at least 60

[Anonymous No.4766253]

>>4765785
>>4765794
Or you know ... people just don't care and don't check the name in their activity feed to trace the artist's personal social media and doxx them. Just a random thought.

[Anonymous No.4766330]

>>4766113
You can remove everything on the invoice on a personal account. It won't hide shit in the transaction details, just in the email PayPal sends out to your client.
There's a ton of misinformation about how PayPal works online.

[Anonymous No.4766341]

>>4765050
>Just don't make PayPal fees an extra charge.
Why is that? I've seen a few artist around who do it and they're fairly regularly commissioned so it doesn't seem like it's getting them into any trouble. Then again, they were JP artists so maybe PayPal hasn't caught on.

[Anonymous No.4766408]

>>4766341
japanese are exempt because how much better their art is

[Anonymous No.4766454]

>>4766341
What you charge is already completely made up anyway.
It becomes more obvious as to why it's not allowed when an online shop adds a %fee on your purchased items to cover up their (!) PayPal fees.

[Anonymous No.4766473]

>>4765587
you can put a commission tier though and make it like 1-3 open spots per month

I've seen artists do it

[Anonymous No.4766485]

>>4765785
>>4765794
? you can literally check the name even from business ones because it shows you the owner of the business

[Anonymous No.4766507]

>>4765671
how is it pointless for artists when for literally everyone with over 10k it automatically get's force switched to business status after you send in the requested employment papers so they can register taxes. Private is considered for "buying" online, not to run an online "business" selling prints, merch, etc.
Business and self employment are treated as same, which is shit and should be changed into a different category considering all the content creators and 1-man online businesses nowadays

[Anonymous No.4766513]

>>4765050
is this really necessary

I mean I guess if someone makes a couple k a month

[Anonymous No.4766572]

>>4766485
This is wrong, I've commissioned a few artists before and all I got were their email + society name

[Anonymous No.4766574]

>>4766253
>all those controversial artists that absolutely never get doxxed even by their most rabid haters
doubt doubt doubt x

[Anonymous No.4766648]

>>4766507
PayPal doesn't care if you do your work with a private or business account. They also don't give a shit if you do your taxes or not. It's up to you if you want to upgrade. It's not mandatory. Business just adds some helpful features.
That 10k number you have there is the largest sum you can receive in one transaction with a private account. I don't think it will force upgrade you to business if you try to go over that number.
If you run an online shop, a business account will be very helpful. If you just do commissions and maybe run a Patreon, a private account will be enough.

[Anonymous No.4766682]

>>4766572
I don't think so and this has already been discussed by other anons here who know more about it

[Anonymous No.4766705]

>>4766574
Explain this IC. Does that mean I can dox BBC chan and the rest of you?

[Anonymous No.4766720]

>>4766705
Just be like Brian and put your full name, cell phone, address, and social security number in every single username you have on every single website

[Anonymous No.4766725]

>>4766705
>mfw all the faggots that post on the blog thread end up receiving dragon dildos
On second thought you fruits would probably enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.4766737]

>>4766725
Free dragon dildo? We would appreciate it. Those are expensive. Godzilla one plz

[Anonymous No.4766750]

They see your full name as you put it in PayPal.
I made a ko-fi thinking it would act as a middleman, but nope, it just goes to paypal and tells your name anyway.

Also this >>4764958

[Anonymous No.4766757]

Why am I seeing conflicting information for something that should be a yes-or-no question? Is a business account enough to hide your name?

[Anonymous No.4766762]

>>4766757
It's not enough. On the bank statement (not the paypal one), it shows your real name.

[Anonymous No.4766773]

>>4766648
that's a stupid thing to say, but these same shitty threads keep being made so google search some answers yourself. Anyone who uses private to make money is usually too small to make actual noteworthy profit that goes over the minimum

but hey if there is some big fags here with a couple k of patreon bucks on private then maybe they can give a definite answer that can be used for a sticky as to not confuse beginners who keep spamming the same questions

[Anonymous No.4766776]

>>4766682
I think I do know more after actually having done the experience instead of memers just lying about it for some unknown reason

[Anonymous No.4766785]

>>4766762
Alright, thanks

[Anonymous No.4766793]

>commiss.io
Does it really keep you anonymous?

[Anonymous No.4766806]

>>4766776
then you'd know shit like this >>4766762 unless you're one of those memers just lying about it for some unknown reason

[Anonymous No.4766820]

>>4766806
But this is what I've been saying the whole time
It shows their enterprise name which is just their artist name not their real name

[Anonymous No.4766842]

venmooooo

[Anonymous No.4766861]

>>4766820
Is anyone willing to verify this? With pictures

[Anonymous No.4766872]

Haha 72 posts deep and still nobody fucking knows.

[Anonymous No.4766884]

>>4766872
It seems no one uses paypal for commissions.

I've only used bank transfers for mine.

[Anonymous No.4766897]

>>4766884
Why use bank transfer, isnt that more inconvenient and slower?

[Anonymous No.4766935]

>>4766897
3-4 days AND a fee, gee sign me up

[Anonymous No.4766974]

>>4766897
>>4766935
I hate it but that's the only thing my clients are willing to use. They're a somewhat large company that most people in this thread have heard of.

[Anonymous No.4766979]

>got paid for a commission recently using paypal
>invoice only mentions my paypal business name
>checked my bank account once the money was deposited
>my transaction history only mentions my paypal business name, nothing else
So it's anonymous right, the other guy wouldn't be able to find my name? Or am I a dumbass?

[Anonymous No.4766993]

>>4766979
I don't see how there's any way to know what the other guy sees on his end. Two of us here are going to have to t r u s t and do a test

[Anonymous No.4767003]

>>4766993
>give info for a dummy discord account
>someone gives paypal email through discord
>test it
It could work.

[Anonymous No.4767153]

>>4766993
>>4767003
Send a dollar with different types of accounts to test the hypothesis

[Anonymous No.4767180]

How much are you making from commissions and how long have you been drawing?

[Anonymous No.4767194]

>>4766979
check the transaction details on the Paypal page for a surprise.

[Anonymous No.4767199]

>>4767180
5$ a year
11 years

[Anonymous No.4767267]

>made a transaction with myself in the past through two paypal accounts
>couldn't find the name of the "commissioner" account

[Anonymous No.4767522]

I just sent some money to someone on ko-fi as a guest (no account) with paypal.
>on paypal
it only shows the guys screen name under seller info. Then transaction ID, invoice ID, etc. Category: business services. None of his personal info
>on my bank account
Just says "PAYPAL *(username), date, amount
>on my email
It pretty much says the same thing as the paypal transaction. I don't see any of his personal info on there other than his email.

I'm not sure what info he can see about me other than my email. It seems like you can stay pretty anonymous on the seller side.

[Anonymous No.4767584]

>>4767522
>>4766979
literally what I have done for the past year editing porn.

[Anonymous No.4767613]

>>4764836
>Thinking someone can dox you just by knowing your name

Unless you link a phone number or address, I find it hard to believe that someone can find you just by your name. You're not unique. There's hundreds of other people with your same name.

You're overreacting. Do you really think anyone cares about your art or you enough to doxx you? You're a literal who.

[Anonymous No.4767657]

>>4766897
>>4766935
do you need your $100 that quickly? what, do you not have a job or any savings that can last you 4 days?

[Anonymous No.4767704]

Just finished a transaction with my paypal business account.
>customer's info
I could find his name/full address through the invoice and transaction details. But, it wasn't a business account.
>my info
I asked him if he could find my info, he said only the business name showed up.
Am I missing something?

[Anonymous No.4767858]

>>4766861
I think people are talking out of their ass since you have those who say it's anonymous and those who say it isn't >>4766979 >>4767522 >>4766762 >>4767194 and it's usually the later who are right since they don't just say what makes them feel better but had experience with it

[Anonymous No.4768212]

what do you do when paypal doesnt support your country? im thinking maybe payoneer but idk

[Anonymous No.4768267]

>>4767704
How did you fill out the info when upgrading to Business? It's asking for a Legal Business Name and a Business Address.

[autism inside cpuhead No.4768287]

[Anonymous No.4768341]

>>4768267
This is the tricky part. You can use your own name as legal business name but obviously that defeats the point of all this. If you register a business downtown then you will easily be looked up. Doing Buisiness As, you probably have to put an ad in the paper doxing yourself out the gate.

[Anonymous No.4768594]

I've been taking several donations and commissions through my business paypal. The buyer doesn't receive any of my personal info, just the business name I attached to the account (there was an option for this, if I remember correctly). My business name isn't a legit business either, yet, mostly an online handle that I want to register as one much later.

I've sent money to and withdrawn from it multiple times as well and there is no personal name attached to any email or bank receipts.

I would say just create a business account and select the appropriate setting for your business name to appear instead of your actual name.

[Anonymous No.4768646]

>>4767858
Yes, all the answers are from people that don't even use paypal, the ones that have experiences with it all said that it actually not show your name and info.

So the final answer is NO YOUR CLIENTS DON'T SEE YOUR INFO, unless you do some stupid shit like putting your real name in your business name, in wich case you deserve to be doxed and fucked in the ass.

[Anonymous No.4768684]

>>4764836
The real question is why the hell does this look like someone's humiliation fetish picture?

[Anonymous No.4768704]

>>4768594
Finally an experienced answer. Thank you much for helping clear this up, anon.

[Anonymous No.4768900]

>>4767613
Not everyone is named John Smith, anon. There's plenty of people with unique first+lastnames

[Anonymous No.4768953]

>he gets results when searching his own name

[Anonymous No.4768964]

>>4768953
If you're registered to vote in the US, a lot of your information is in the public record and can often be found online stored by data aggregators

[Anonymous No.4769435]

>>4768684
because that's exactly what it is?

[Anonymous No.4769554]

>>4767613
1. I have a very unique name. I almost wish I had a common name.

2. and I've dealt with stalkers before because I am a public figure. Used to be at least, but it still follows me.

[Anonymous No.4769727]

>>4768646
The anonymous furry gmi myth is true. Hooray

[Anonymous No.4769731]

I'm so desperate for anonymity I'm considering pretending to be a tranny to give my bank a custom name.

[Anonymous No.4769738]

>>4769731
I like the way you think.

[Anonymous No.4770015]

>>4764836
Even if my clients would know my name I have no traces of myself on any social media nor real life placed tied to my name

[Anonymous No.4770026]

>>4768646
It's okay to upgrade to business under your real name. This was previously known as a Premier Account. Did you register your business name?
If your accounts gets frozen they will ask you to provide documents and stuff. They are pretty serious about what to use as a Legal Business Name.

[Anonymous No.4770246]

>>4770026
>If your accounts gets frozen they will ask you to provide documents and stuff. They are pretty serious about what to use as a Legal Business Name.
Oh God we were so close.

[Anonymous No.4770293]

>>4770246
You could just register a business. It's not that difficult.

[Anonymous No.4770301]

>>4770293
Businesses have registered business owners

[Anonymous No.4770432]

>all these replies
>I can't distinguish between a yes or a no
Guess I can't read. Can the seller be anonymous?

[Anonymous No.4770520]

>>4770246
this close to greatness.
I thought I could just make up a business name. It takes forever to get a fucking business license

[Anonymous No.4770880]

>>4770432
Half of the replies are trolls.

The answer is YES a seller can be anonymous if they have a business account on paypal. Before selling, get a friend to buy something, and ask them to see their bank statement.

It will only show that it's a transaction from paypal.

BUT you cannot be anonymous if you sell physical items. Make sure you tick the box that a shipping address is not needed.

[Anonymous No.4770888]

>>4770880
> they have a business account on paypal.
Do you need anything specific to switch to a business account?

[Anonymous No.4770891]

>>4770880
PO Box

[Anonymous No.4770937]

>>4770891
This could be the answer. You dont need to rent a huge PO BOX if you are selling large canvases etc, I assume they hold them in the back until you show up. PO BOX should do it.

[Anonymous No.4770952]

Wasn't there a front where you could send invoices and link to paypal?
I was sure somebody posted it here once

[Anonymous No.4770990]

>>4770937
The po box actually needs to be big enough for you to reside at so that you can open a bank account with it.
You bank account info has to match the information on your PayPal account. Maybe also change your name while you're at it just to be safe.

[Anonymous No.4771410]

>>4770952
That could save us...
>>4770990
Shut up kid

[Anonymous No.4771531]

>>4770888
Nope. Anyone can do it.

[Anonymous No.4771535]

>>4766454
sorry I forgot I asked this question here
I've actually seen online shops do similar before, so is it actually not allowed? or is it just a bad marketing thing? I don't see why PayPal would care who covers the charge, but maybe I'm just being smooth brained.

[Anonymous No.4771555]

>>4770937
> rent a huge PO BOX if you are selling large canvases etc
U wot? You just use the PO Box for the return address if you are selling goods. It can be the smallest box.

You go to the post office with your package and just mail it. You never actually expect anything to arrive in your box.