/beg/ BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.4761946]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done. Anything is okay.

previous thread >>4759826

READ THE STICKY for some guidance:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - preferably ~1000px, <1.1mb

BE ACTIVE AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS - all it takes is a little feedback to give someone a lot of motivation. Leave no submission un-replied!

[Anonymous No.4761958]

Some ground rules to start this thread and the next /beg/ threads off:

>if you are /beg/
Don't ever give advice.
You can relate and share your hardships with other /beg/s, but never give them advice.
If you MUST give advice, start the reply off with "I'm beg, but what worked for me is..."

>Before you post your work
1. Every person giving advice here expects for you to have at least read some of the sticky, and that you already know what you should be doing to improve.
In that light, replies such as "grind more fundamentals" are perfectly viable advice.
We expect you to know what the general fundamentals are (gesture, anatomy, perspective, drapery, etc.), and we expect you to know where you can find resources to practice these subjects.
Sometimes literally the only good advice to give is to practice more and improve your technique.

2. DO NOT post your 5 minute sketches that you didn't put much thought into. If you do post them then make sure to ask for SPECIFIC advice on a specific subject.
If you post a doodle and ask "where did i go wrong" or "how should I continue from here", expect to get meme replies such as "Loomis".

Follow these simple rules and the generals will become much more productive for both the /beg/s and the people giving advice

[Anonymous No.4761968]

>>4761946
I-IM G-GONNA D-DRAW

[Anonymous No.4761969]

ref 1

[Anonymous No.4761971]

reference: back of knee

[Anonymous No.4761972]

ref 2

[Anonymous No.4761986]

>>4761886

[Anonymous No.4761998]

>>4761986
>I'm still stuck on this
Mogged

[Anonymous No.4762000]

[Anonymous No.4762006]

facial expressions are hard

[Anonymous No.4762034]

>>4762006
it's all in the eyes and cheeks.

[Anonymous No.4762037]

>>4762006
sorry if I'm retarded. What did you use for the bottom right sketch?

[Anonymous No.4762038]

what do I think about it?

[Anonymous No.4762067]

>>4762038
soul

[Anonymous No.4762077]

>>4762038
I wonder what's for dinner?

[Anonymous No.4762146]

Reference 3

[Anonymous No.4762148]

>>4762146
Well, I fuck that up. But here it is.

[Anonymous No.4762160]

>>4762006
As another Anon said, cheeks and eyes. I drew this the other day. It looks terrible. Open mouth adds nothing. You're probably better than me at this but just for other begs reading this I wanted to post an example. I'm gonna draw pictures of myself making different faces while wearing a mask over my mouth and nose. I'll bet you can tell the difference.

[Anonymous No.4762170]

>>4762006
study more loomis

[Anonymous No.4762185]

>>4762170
your shit is stiff bro

[Anonymous No.4762226]

>>4762185
blame loomis

[Anonymous No.4762238]

>>4762226
nah you just have to work on the mouth, right now it looks like a decal that was slapped on the face. It needs to interact with the surrounding structures.
Also look into wrinkled/furrowed noses and how they interact with cheeks.

[Anonymous No.4762241]

What's a good size and resolution to draw with in Krita? I made the mistake of going too small so now I'm nitpicking individual pixels on my wip because I don't want to restart

[Anonymous No.4762243]

>>4762241
between 3k-4k

[Anonymous No.4762247]

In what order should I watch the NMA courses?

[Anonymous No.4762248]

>>4762238
thanks for the critique bro, already seeing gains

[Anonymous No.4762279]

i noticed something the other day, a woman's elbow fits into her waist. If you are confused about the proportions, the length of the upper arm, or the torso.

Interestingly, if you look at a fucking tranny, this doesn't apply. There are difference between male and female bodies. So if you mess this up, your drawing will look like a man.

[Anonymous No.4762282]

>>4762279
and the belly button height gives it away too. i think they're lower on women. below the waist/elbow height.

[Anonymous No.4762284]

>>4761946
I felt sceptical of my methods of construction and tried to reverse engineer them from an existing image. When I draw I only ever use the blue method but I thought I would do the red one for comparison.
Do I need to relearn construction entirely, or can my techniques be fixed?

[Anonymous No.4762317]

>>4762284
blue method is worthless.
red method is good but very difficult to get right without drawing the gesture first.
Focus on gesture drawing first and foremost.

[Anonymous No.4762367]

Waah

[Anonymous No.4762380]

>>4762367
that's not how the deltoids connect to the arm
that's not how the wrist works
collar bone is not right
upper body is too short/ lower body is too long
head is completely fucked
all the facial features are individually fucked.

Brush up on proportions, skeletal and muscular anatomy, and head anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4762381]

did a couple of painting studies. seems like im really not pushing my values far enough. bumping up the contrast by 20 makes it look better, but thats cheating

[Anonymous No.4762425]

>>4762038
Technicals are off, but I love it. Lots of emotion in the character's eyes and body language. I love the attention to detail. Please keep at it because I see a lot of potential.

The bad: fingers are wonky on the left hand. Right arm bends where it should be straight. Top of head is cut off so they need more crown stretched higher to cover where it should end. I wish you had put detail past the waist too. The best way to improve is finish a drawing completely, and especially a entire scene that fills the page. You will exercise anatomy, spacial awareness, how to drawing organic and inorganic, all in one go that way.

If you like medieval style art, try art request threads over at tg/ for practice. I prefer fantasy so I go there for artists block and a chance to practice while making someone happy.

[Anonymous No.4762430]

>>4762317
What was your problem with the blue method? I would really appreciate some elaboration.

[Anonymous No.4762446]

>>4762381
Good for you anon. The old masters were taught that same way for hundreds of years. It used to be you had to copy the works of great artists and could never do your own unique work until your master deemed you were no longer a student. The art teacher would beat you if you even attempted to try a unique painting. Some times when I look at low effort modern art made by art college students who smell their own farts, I wish art students still got beaten today.

[Anonymous No.4762457]

>>4762446
source? or you chatting out your ass

[Anonymous No.4762460]

>>4762380
Ty anon

[Anonymous No.4762476]

>>4762446
I'm glad you asked. Stop by co/ sometime, they lament the fall of art more than ic/ for some reason. The old ways are no longer taught. We will never achieve breathtaking realistic oil paintings of man again because art students would rather make something terrible and then claim it is their style. I'll post another from a colleges website showing off their art.

[Anonymous No.4762483]

started new course blog

[Anonymous No.4762498]

>>4762367
>>4762284
Give up

[Anonymous No.4762503]

>>4762498
And surrender

[Anonymous No.4762504]

>>4762498
I didn't make the guy with the sword.

[Anonymous No.4762533]

Im in the train and some old ladies have their feet (other ones are bare) on the person sitting in the fronts handle. This is such good feet study also my dick is diamonds. So yeah, go to public to study.

[Anonymous No.4762543]

>>4762533
how do you draw in public without looking like a creep?

[Anonymous No.4762549]

>>4762543
wear artsy clothes

[Anonymous No.4762552]

>>4762543
Most people don't care and won't notice even if you are. Shower, shave, comb your hair, etc. before you leave the house as well.

[Anonymous No.4762555]

>>4762543
Dont know. I definately look like a creep and im pretty sure the passengers next to me saw me drawing the ladies feet. Also heres a creepshot :D

But for real, raise eyes quick, remember what you saw and put your eyes to your notebook. Its all about memory. Also a person drawing doesnt necessarily look like a creep, only if they act like one.

[Anonymous No.4762575]

>>4762457
>>4762476
Meant for you. Everyone in beg is a better artist than these people. If artists in beg put in the effort, they will be more successful artists than these people. I legitimately want to beat most of the artists who made these pieces.

Look upon the photo of a basket with noodles, photo of old arranged top hats, photo of a art performance by holding their feet to a wall, hugging fish monster, squares of paint hung on a clothes line, and weep. Beg, artists please dont look, the skills of the top art college students in the world might be contagious.

[Anonymous No.4762578]

>>4762575
ok thats nice and all but source?

[Anonymous No.4762586]

>>4762578
my cock in your ass

[Anonymous No.4762588]

>>4762476
the virgin furshit dragon vs the Chad cumshot sculpture

[Anonymous No.4762589]

>>4762586
why come here and just make up some random art history? youre a strange one anon

[Anonymous No.4762590]

will drawing hot guys turn me gay?

[Anonymous No.4762593]

>>4762590
ya i drew my friend and i love him now

[Anonymous No.4762616]

[Anonymous No.4762618]

>>4762616
what head courses you done? how long you been drawing?

[Anonymous No.4762620]

>>4762590
yes, same with doing furry porn for the money

[Anonymous No.4762624]

>>4762616
brow on the left is too high (its also lower than the other one in the ref). ear too high. forehead too narrow. nose is off. overall very good work.

[Anonymous No.4762632]

>>4762618
started the marco bucci head course just over a week ago. been drawing a year, not focusing on anything in particular really. picrel is where i was in december.

[Anonymous No.4762636]

>>4762624
thank you king

[Anonymous No.4762639]

>>4762632
ear on hat guy is way too high

[Anonymous No.4762651]

>>4762498
pyw

[Anonymous No.4762653]

>>4762590
Youre already calling guys hot. Stop worrying and tell your best friend your feelings already.

[Anonymous No.4762673]

Personal accountability, shame me. Monday will be one month giving it a go. Shit's trash but better than where it was. First drawing I've made trying to Lego everything together so far.

Bland.

[Anonymous No.4762706]

I need to learn to draw bodies? What should I do differently in the next sketch?

[Anonymous No.4762707]

>>4762706
Not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4762709]

>>4762706
ref

[Anonymous No.4762716]

>>4762707
can you please stop posting that on every sketch i post. i am trying to get some advice.

[Anonymous No.4762719]

>>4762716
Can you please stop dabbing on actual begs and go to your thread, and this is the first time I made that post in months

[Anonymous No.4762722]

>>4762160
>>4762006
Look at an emoji.
Emojis are expressive with all details removed except eyes (+eyebrows) and mouth. That's all you need.

[Anonymous No.4762724]

>>4762284
Don't try to reinvent the wheel man or "invent your own method".
Read a booko, pick the one you like and go with it.
For now.

[Anonymous No.4762726]

what do you guys do to warm up?

[Anonymous No.4762728]

i've been doing gesture drawings for at least a month now and i don't even know if i'm doing it right. what the hell is gesture, how do i construct with regards to flow and gesture, what am i supposed to be thinking about when i copy naked people

[Anonymous No.4762736]

>>4762724
The first book I learned construction from was a book by Dan Jurgens (Illustrator for Marvel and DC including Death of Superman) and he did almost exactly the blue method from my pic. Later on I read Fun with A Pencil and saw more or less the same thing. This was further echoed in methods from Josiah Brooks (Jazza on YouTube), and Brookes Eggleston (Character Design Forge on YouTube). Obviously, there has to be something about my construction that needs improvement if so many other people can do basically the same thing but better.

[Anonymous No.4762743]

>>4759840

[Anonymous No.4762744]

>>4762743
FOR ALL BEGS HERE THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING, amazing work anon, this is how you get a grasp on objects in a 3d space, not just copying others art

[Anonymous No.4762750]

>>4762726
https://youtu.be/eaif0PpNMas

[Anonymous No.4762757]

>>4761958
>Don't ever give advice.
I think /beg/ manages that pretty consistently.

[Anonymous No.4762758]

quick sketch

[Anonymous No.4762779]

>>4762476
>We will never achieve breathtaking realistic oil paintings of man again
Aren't there thousands of people still doing that right now?
A quick google search found this guy, at least. Give him $50k and he'll give you a photorealistic portrait done in oil paint. https://www.marklovettstudio.com/portrait-commission-process-and-pricing/

[Anonymous No.4762784]

>>4762779
yeah art is bigger and better than ever hes the sort of person that say NEW BAD OLD GOOD and think teenagers are lazy and listen to rock music all day but back in his day he woke up at 5am blah blah blah

[Anonymous No.4762787]

>>4762784
>NEW BAD OLD GOOD and think teenagers are lazy and listen to rock music all day but back in his day he woke up at 5am
None of this is incorrect

Have you considered that maybe every generation laments the next generation after them and their ways because it's actually true and we've been at a steady decline into decadence for millenia?

[Anonymous No.4762789]

>>4762555
Certified bruh moment

[Anonymous No.4762791]

>>4762787
>we've been at a steady decline into decadence for millenia?

i dont believe this in the slightest but im not about to get into some political debate on beg lol

[Anonymous No.4762794]

>>4762787
How do you reconcile that with the fact that no era after ancient Greece has been nearly as gay?

[Anonymous No.4762796]

>>4762744
So I should ideally try to frame everything I draw in perspective? I haven’t done that very often, but would it help shoot me up to the next level?

[Anonymous No.4762799]

>>4762796
its not about the framing its about knowing how to rotate an object and draw from multiple angles from your mind to really understand the subject as a 3d form

[Anonymous No.4762803]

>>4762784
do you really think the people who say new bad old good are older than you

[Anonymous No.4762806]

>>4762032
i dont understand where to start.
people like you dont understand people like me

[Anonymous No.4762807]

>>4762803
yeah, the people that say that are like 25-60, no teenager will be saying that theyre just playing fortnite

[Anonymous No.4762809]

>>4762799
Oh, so like what KJG said in theaters one interview, practice altering angles and drawing in different perspectives till it becomes second nature?

[Anonymous No.4762810]

>>4762543
>>4762555
It's fine to look like a creep, so long as you are also an artist. Normies see the ability to draw an accurate likeness as a mysterious and magical power, and will not dare stop you.

[Anonymous No.4762811]

>>4762809
exactly

[Anonymous No.4762814]

>>4762743
v. nice

[Anonymous No.4762817]

>>4762807
i was born in 2001.

[Anonymous No.4762820]

>>4762817
ok so you have no understanding of the actual world and dunno what youre talking about, cool, now stop replying please im not here for some political shit with kids telling me how bad the world is right now when literally every metric says otherwise, there all more art masters than ever, 100000s of hours of books and videos and information for everyone on the internet

[Anonymous No.4762821]

So is copying without using construction detrimental? Because I just look at the shapes. their length and relation to each other and draw the big shapes first

[Anonymous No.4762822]

>>4762820
Nah there aren't it seems like its dying knowledge to be honest. I think Ted was likely correct. I probably have more life experience than you at this point. millenials are hilariously sheltered

[Anonymous No.4762823]

>>4762728
bump

[Anonymous No.4762824]

>>4762822
>Nah there aren't it seems like its dying knowledge to be honest

the fact you would even say that just speaks volumes, im not going to reply again, peace

[Anonymous No.4762827]

>>4762822
dying!?!? wtf are you smoking, have you seen the billion patreons and twitter, art is the biggest its been in history

[Anonymous No.4762829]

>>4762824
look at the absolute state of western animation man. you're living in a bubble

[Anonymous No.4762835]

>>4762829
not op but cartoons have always been cheap and been pumped out every week/day, capitalism doesnt mean art is less popular now, you said like some teenager who thinks they know how the world works but they get all their info from 4chan

[Anonymous No.4762837]

>>4762744
thanks anon, I used to do a single rotation following the entire Hampton procedure, but recently thought of doing rougher drawings but more rotations. Do you know if it's okay to do them not strictly following a grid and mostly feeling them out? I've seen Olson use orthographic views with head units (I think) and Krenz draw on a cubical grid, and I would certainly do that for finished drawings/scenes, but is it okay to feel things out with exercises or will it fuck me up later?

[Anonymous No.4762839]

>>4762814
ty anon

[Anonymous No.4762842]

>>4762822
>dying knowledge

prokos sub base is bigger than every artist in 1400s conbined, being an artists was rare back in the day and it was very hard to join an atelier

[Anonymous No.4762843]

fun with a PENIS XD

[Anonymous No.4762845]

>>4762837
>Do you know if it's okay to do them not strictly following a grid and mostly feeling them out

sure yeah if you crosscheck it after and then adjust the problems and learn them for your next drawing

[Anonymous No.4762848]

>>4762835
Nah man I'm talking about the peaks not the average.
>>4762842
Then why even have a /beg/? why even start if its so oversaturated?

[Anonymous No.4762851]

>>4762848
>why even start if its so oversaturated?
uhh what? what sort of question is this, you start because its fun and a nice hobby, why start and do anything? im confused and what youre asking

[Anonymous No.4762855]

>>4762843
based

[Anonymous No.4762857]

>>4762822
>I probably have more life experience than you at this point.
Well, it's a real teenager all right.

[Anonymous No.4762859]

>>4762851
its not fun. how can being shit be fun? everything is pure fucking pain. an endless grind everyday with no improvement in sight. i had a friend tell me my artbook reminds me a lot of their elementary school doodles. everytime they draw something its from imagination and looks better than anything i could draw. and they have fun doing it literally laughing as they draw. im just looking miserable trying to sketch out really shitty stuff and drawing slides over and over

[Anonymous No.4762860]

>>4762848
>Nah man I'm talking about the peaks not the average.

but this is just wrong, youre looking through rose tinted glasses at the masters, theres multiple artists on the same level if not higher, go look at more art anon that isnt twitter coomer shit and broaden your horizons, literally one example below

>>4762779

[Anonymous No.4762862]

>>4762860
thats not the art im saying
>>4762857
ok, post your life and ill post mine, well compare

[Anonymous No.4762864]

>>4762848
muh masters, the master were shit

[Anonymous No.4762867]

>>4762862
>thats not the art im saying

well wtf are you saying? i dont even understand your point " art is dying" no theres mor artists than ever "art is declining" no there literally thousands and thousands of amazing artists, concept artists and character designers, in 1400 there were like 10 masters and thats it lmao

[Anonymous No.4762870]

>>4762864
why do you guys keep saying the word masters? its like talking to an ai

[Anonymous No.4762871]

>>4762170
very expressive

[Anonymous No.4762874]

>>4762719
and what thread would that be, faggot?

[Anonymous No.4762875]

>>4762860
If you want more artist examples, I also found this: https://therp.co.uk/artists/
Mind you, this is ONLY people doing portraits using oil paints, which really is an incredibly niche thing today, and only in the UK.

[Anonymous No.4762876]

>>4762822
>I probably have more life experience than you at this point

how to tell someone a teenager 101, I- IM TOTALLY AN ADULT GUYS! I HAD A GIRLFRIEND AND MOVE COUNTRY AND EVERYTHING! MY MUM EVEN DIED IM HARDENED AND EXPERIENCED

[Anonymous No.4762884]

>>4762543
don't be ugly.

[Anonymous No.4762887]

>>4762848
>why even start if its so oversaturated?
Financially, becoming an artist makes absolutely no sense right now. It really is oversaturated. If your only goal is to make a living, you definitely shouldn't learn to draw.

[Anonymous No.4762894]

>>4762821
It's one way to draw, and the one you learn first. I believe that's what they teach at ateliers and it makes sense if you have a reference. but beg idk

[Anonymous No.4762905]

>>4762876
i doubt you even pay taxes

[Anonymous No.4762906]

>>4762887
what does make sense financially right now

[Anonymous No.4762907]

>>4762905
>i doubt you even pay taxes

the fact you think this is a big adult thing really does prove youre a tennager, everyone fucking pays taxes apart from the unemployed which is like 1% of my country its not some big adult thing to pay taxes

[Anonymous No.4762913]

>>4762907
actually it is relevant because this is 4chan and the vast majority do not pay taxes. tha accusation is one of being a 4channer

[Anonymous No.4762923]

>>4762906
Medicine, if you can get past the school.
If you can't get past the school, maybe an electrician or a plumber. It's not super high pay, but there will be demand for it for the foreseeable future.

[Anonymous No.4762928]

>>4762923
im surprised you didnt say something retarded like tech. i guess word is finally getting out that tech is dead

[Anonymous No.4762952]

>>4762706
try to pay more attention to the negative space as well. notice how in the reference, the torso is longer and the bum is bigger resulting in a negative space square is nearly as big as the torso itself, which is not the case for the drawing.

[Anonymous No.4762956]

>>4762907
I'm unemployed but still pay taxes.
It's just a weird bureaucratic loop, with the state just transferring some of its money to itself instead of giving it to me, but I'm still a nominal tax payer. I'm pretty sure I'd need to literally live with my parents to not pay taxes.

[Anonymous No.4762969]

>>4762728
>what am i supposed to be thinking about when i copy naked people
flow
watch this like 1xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSzB3ESpfE0

[Anonymous No.4762970]

What percentage of artists are able to draw multiple bodytypes well? It seems like lots of artists who mainly draw women, fall apart when drawing men. Artists who draw mainly older character fall apart when drawing children, and vice versa.

[Anonymous No.4762974]

>>4762728
>i've been doing gesture drawings
Anon what you've posted are not gesture drawings

[Anonymous No.4762981]

>>4762974
begone, crab

[Anonymous No.4762983]

>>4762970
22.34%

>>4762981
but theyre not though?

[Anonymous No.4762986]

>>4762974
what are they? i'm having trouble understanding the difference here. i'll go on like quickposes, set it for an hour and just do these doodles. people say i should be spending a minute on each and that they're how i get "gesture and flow".

[Anonymous No.4762993]

>>4762970
most artists seem to manage fine

[Anonymous No.4763021]

What's more difficult to draw, cocks or vaginas?

[Anonymous No.4763024]

>>4763021
vagina, cock is just a shaft, a nice simple shape

[Anonymous No.4763028]

>>4762986
You're trying to outline, you're not drawing gesture lines, line of action, or blocking in the form. you should watch a video lecture from villppu or any other teacher who explain how to study gesture

[Anonymous No.4763035]

>>4762969
>>4763028
Noted, thank you. I will take a look at these and see if I can get myself on the right track.

[Anonymous No.4763039]

I dont think its finished but i dont know or have anything more to give it. Sorry for shitty pic

[Anonymous No.4763043]

>>4763039
ya real shitty in the sense that theres no pic at all

[Anonymous No.4763049]

Its doesnt feel finished. Idk what to add to it.

[Anonymous No.4763053]

>>4762870
most people even artists are NPC. if you want to see a perfect example, upload a sketch of a car or vehicle of any kind and you'll get at least 3 comments which contain zero original ideas but tell you to look up scott robertson.

They can't help themselves. They are not aware and living in the moment. I wonder if they actually are AI sometimes. Maybe an AI is scanning 4chan to see how people respond to whatever it can recognize, and they're testing it to see if it passes the Turing test.

[Anonymous No.4763055]

>>4763035
Honestly I would not bother with gesture as a fresh beginner. Gesture gets recommended to beginners a lot but it is deceptively complex. Its important later on, dont get me wrong. But its usefulness to beginners is overstated. its really only useful once you are at least semi confident with your ability to read proportion and at least surface level anatomical knowledge

[Anonymous No.4763060]

>>4763055
but gesture has literally nothing to do with proportion and anatomy at all, its all about feeling and capturing the pose of the individual

[Anonymous No.4763110]

>>4762590
mouth is a little too far to the left, makes it look like he has an under bite

[Anonymous No.4763120]

>>4761969
>>4761972

[Anonymous No.4763124]

>>4763060
if you can't reliably draw the sillouette of a man or woman with roughly correct proportions, if you don't understand the anatomy placement and range of motions in the various limbs and skeletal structure, you are just wasting time attempting to draw gesture

to say gesture has nothing to do with proportion and anatomy is blatantly false. art instructors will say not to FOCUS on anatomy and proportion when gesture drawing. that is not the same as "gesture has nothing to do with anatomy and proportion"

[Anonymous No.4763129]

>>4761998
Head is too big

[Anonymous No.4763130]

>>4762758
i miss him every day

[Anonymous No.4763134]

>>4763053
Aren't you an NPC too by posting that meme?

[Anonymous No.4763135]

>>4762811
>>4762837
>>4762845
I tried doing it myself on two separate things, the bird was relatively easy but it got really fucking hard with the action pose and I completely fucked the last one, is there a red pill I need to swallow to get good at this?

[Anonymous No.4763141]

Rip it apart. First time I've ever used construction and formed a face using shapes. Critique it to hell and back because it's clear I need to get better.

[Anonymous No.4763142]

>>4762744
anyone who can do that exercise at that level is very clearly not /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4763145]

>>4762549
This and if you have a backpack and a sketchbook people generally assume that you're a art student and not a creep . But they still give stares tho i don't think there's anything we can do about it that.

[Anonymous No.4763147]

how are you supposed to feel the form when painting? I'm getting okay at constructing with shapes and I feel like my drawings are starting to have a real sense of weight and form, but when I try to paint over it then it flattens out

[Anonymous No.4763148]

Rip it apart /ic/. First time I've ever drawn a face using construction and shapes. Critique it to hell and back because its clear I need to improve.

[Anonymous No.4763154]

>>4762707
Idk what you're talking about this is beg as fuck anatomy is scuffed all over the pace. I'd Reccomend OP to learn gesture first then get into anatomy this deep.

[Anonymous No.4763161]

>>4763148
Are you using a base model? The perspective is really fucked.

[Anonymous No.4763168]

>>4762758
which PlayStation game is he playing?

[Anonymous No.4763169]

>>4763161

[Anonymous No.4763173]

>>4763168
jfk died in '63
iirc the original photo he's holding a TV remote, or a camera? i forget

[Anonymous No.4763181]

>>4763169
no i mean pic related anon

[Anonymous No.4763192]

[Anonymous No.4763193]

>>4763181
Ah yeah I did. It was my first time applying it so I definently fucked up somewhere.

[Anonymous No.4763205]

>>4763135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaG-cBidCBw

[Anonymous No.4763206]

>>4763142
>rotating a box is very clearly not /beg/.

beg everyone

[Anonymous No.4763214]

>>4763148
if youre drawing from a direct reference i dont think constructions and shape matter that much. it becomes more about how good you are at observing something

[Anonymous No.4763215]

>>4763134
No.

[Anonymous No.4763218]

>>4762952
You are right. But when it comes to drawing people I'm so as interested in accuracy to the photo as I am to making a decent drawing. Anatomically, perspective wise, value, etc. Does the silhouette really matter? I'm not saying it doesn't, I'm asking.

[Anonymous No.4763221]

Loomis study, It's quite shitty but I think Im starting to get it.

[Anonymous No.4763224]

>>4763221
perspective is all over the place dude. draw a line across the chin, the teeth, the cheeks and the brow. they should all be parallel. yours are pointing every which way. its why your skull looks flat. the upside down one looks pretty good.

[Anonymous No.4763226]

>>4763221
studying the skull goes a long way in improving drawing heads with and without reference.

[Anonymous No.4763229]

>>4763192
Her shoulder girdle looks pretty janky, but it’s pretty nice otherwise

[Anonymous No.4763234]

Is this how i should go about trying to recreate by construction? I know the torso is way too long. The pose isnt exact but i wanted to try it in a slightly different position.

[Anonymous No.4763242]

[Anonymous No.4763244]

>>4763135
Yu Cheng Hong has a Gumroad tutorial on drawing figures in perspective. Krenz probably does too, but I haven't watched it. Framed Perspective Vol. 2 has a chapter on character perspective.
Make sure to do normal linear perspective studies too.

[Anonymous No.4763245]

>>4763224
How can I fix that tho, Is drawing boxes on perspective a good exercise to fix this kind of problems?

[Anonymous No.4763255]

>>4763218
im not too sure how to answer this. what i pointed out was that the drawing was inaccurate and observing negative spaces will help. its not really about silhouettes mattering or not its more observing certain properties of an image will let you understand it better.

the drawing had errors in anatomy and perspective and was off balance. if things lined up better and was more accurate, it would be a better drawing and this can be achieved with better observation of the reference or more construction or experience. doesnt have to be only one way.

but if your focus for drawing is anatomy and perspective, value etc. instead of observation skills and accuracy on a reference. then you will get better results just doing anatomy and perspective drawings instead of using references.

[Anonymous No.4763270]

>>4763234

[Anonymous No.4763278]

>>4763270
im new i dont know how to interpret that

[Anonymous No.4763286]

>>4763135
cute birbs
I think you should keep working on your figure drawing right now. Keep drawing the pose as in your reference but be sure to identify how the head, ribcage and pelvis are oriented in space thinking of them as boxes, and think of the limbs as cylinders, even simple wrapping lines like Huston does in his drawings are helpful. You'll need to practice drawing boxes as well, he ones on your drawing look kinda sloppy. Once you can draw boxes in random orientations you start practicing rotating a box little by little in different directions, and then you should find it easier to do this kind of stuff.
In my drawing I mostly did things by feel for some quick practice, but there's a better way of doing it like this anon pointed out >>4763205

[Anonymous No.4763290]

>>4763234
this is difficult to give advice on since you are saying the pose is also different. it puts anyone looking at this in an awkward place since now theres the drawing, the reference pose and the mystery pose you have in your mind all creating different factors on how you would go about salvaging this.

[Anonymous No.4763296]

>>4763290
true, I did not think about it like that. my bad.

[Anonymous No.4763298]

>>4763205
>>4763244
>>4763286
Thanks, I checked out some of the resources you guys brought up, lately I’ve been focusing on rendering and perspective more since figure drawing (and my hands REEEE) were driving me mad, I’ll be sure to practice the simplification of the body more, I tend to just jump into the arcs and curves of the anatomy right off the bat, which can make it look wonky if I’m not confident in the pose.
One day I’ll be the greatest and the world will know my worth

[Anonymous No.4763317]

>>4761946
i've found a new brush and i love it

[Anonymous No.4763334]

>>4763168
I drew a dual shock controller in JFK's hand but it's kind of hard to tell

[Anonymous No.4763345]

/beg/ I might require your help with a drawing
to dare and shade with a new technique or not to, I'm just like Kanye West, so I already know the answer

[BLACK LIGHT !!l02DQYrNcKu No.4763358]

>>4763345
Give me resources on hatching /beg/

[Anonymous No.4763380]

Sort of a doujin.

[BLACK LIGHT !!HovY3Bfc3gx No.4763396]

THIS IS WHAT I'M WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, NOT PERFECT BUT I WANT TO TRY SOMETHING NOW, WHAT CAN I DO TO IMPROVE? DRAW FASTER?
I'm living in that 21st Century, doing something mean to it
Do it better than anybody you ever seen do it
Screams from the haters, got a nice ring to it
I guess every superhero need his theme music
So goodnight, cruel world, I'll see you in the morning
Huh? I'll see you in the morning
This is way too much, I need a moment

[BLACK LIGHT !!HovY3Bfc3gx No.4763400]

TO the anon wanting to mock me like yesterday
here goes one
EXPERIMENTS ON HATCHING, HAND OVER YOUR INFORMATION, ALREADY TRYING IT AFTER STUDYING SOME PICS
I'm living in that 21st Century, doing something mean to it
Do it better than anybody you ever seen do it
Screams from the haters, got a nice ring to it
I guess every superhero need his theme music

[Anonymous No.4763408]

[Anonymous No.4763413]

>>4763408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dizc8jVdIh8

[BLACK LIGHT !!HovY3Bfc3gx No.4763415]

SO YOU WON'T REPLY TO ME, VERY WELL THEN I KNOW TO TAKE A HINT
>>4763408
NICELY DONE ANON, I HAVE TO ASK, KEYS?

[Anonymous No.4763418]

>>4763358
buy a Papermate pencil and change the lead to B

[Anonymous No.4763420]

>>4763400
>>4763396
youre trying way to hard to be based

[Anonymous No.4763421]

>>4763415
i dont know what keys means. i just drew my eyes with mirror.

[Anonymous No.4763429]

>>4763049
like it

[BLACK LIGHT !!HovY3Bfc3gx No.4763430]

>>4763418
ahh so you can speak, thanks for your reply, useful one at that.
>>4763421
HOW long have you been drawing anon, splending work
>>4763420
Eat shit,
I'm the one who has heavy similarities to Bowie, TO kANYE, to Lucifer, to cronus
I think I just fell in love with a porn star
Turn the camera on, she a born star
Turn the corners in a foreign car
Call the coroners, do the CPR
She gave that old nigga a ulcer
Her bittersweet taste made his gold teeth ache, uh
Make her knees shake, make a priest faint, uh
Make a nun cum, make her cremate, uh
Move downtown, cop a sweet space, uh
Livin’ life like we won the sweepstakes, what
We headed to hell for heaven’s sakes, huh
Well I’mma levitate, make the devil wait, yeah!

[Anonymous No.4763433]

>>4763120
Is he sniffing her brapper?

[Anonymous No.4763436]

Why won't studio paint allow me to invert selected transformations?
What kinda of Jewish magic are they doing to prevent me from inverting shit?

[BLACK LIGHT !!HovY3Bfc3gx No.4763439]

>>4763420
>>4763418
this is a new drawing >>4763396
how to improve, what to do? I think I'll move on to do another one and another and another one and so on
>>4763408
>>4763413
I posted something very similar but I got no replies, curious

[Anonymous No.4763446]

sculpting feels a lot easier than drawing

[Anonymous No.4763447]

>>4763439
ear is too high and dont make it so dark ffs, cant see shit and why have you been crying your art is shit and spergin when it literally looks fine lol

[Anonymous No.4763451]

>>4763436
ctrl+shift+i

[Anonymous No.4763452]

>>4763451
I did that. Does jack shit except have the shortcuts pop out.

[Anonymous No.4763460]

>>4763452
works on my machine :)

[Anonymous No.4763462]

>>4763460
Fuck you too :)

[BLACK LIGHT !!HovY3Bfc3gx No.4763464]

>>4763447
the ear is fine, it's the eye the one I must fix, the angle is a bit off and perhaps it should be to the right a tiny bi NO MY ART MUST IMPROVE THESE DRAWINGS ARE BUT A STEPPING STONE FOR ME TO EXPLORE CURRENT ISSUES
THAT Is lines, I could continue WITH LINES as I havce been doing yet I know that would ruin the drawing so my lines OR marks must be subtle

[Anonymous No.4763465]

>>4763290
okay i tried to do it closer to the image. should i post the trace too?

[Anonymous No.4763469]

>>4763439
post it again

[BLACK LIGHT !!HovY3Bfc3gx No.4763471]

>>4763447
mr eviston said that at this time I shouldnt be doing finished drawings and I SOMEAWHT agree with him due to the fact, the fact that finishing them ruins them due to a lack of skill in subtle marks, rather leave it as an sketch
MARKS subtle marks anon
WHAT ELSE C AN i DO to improve, I dont know if I should pick keys or dotrsotb?
>>4763469
no, you want to mock me if you really wanted to see it you would have replied back then

[Anonymous No.4763474]

>>4763429 you mean i should like it or you like it?

[BLACK LIGHT !!HovY3Bfc3gx No.4763479]

>>4763447
i have to make it dark, you see, an anon yesterday called my drawings jean pocket, i have no idea what it means but it wasn't said on neutral or positive terms as such they are dark to hide them from people like him

[Anonymous No.4763481]

>>4763471
Please for the love of god stop shitting up this thread with your whining and obnoxious roleplaying

[PULSE DEMON !!HovY3Bfc3gx No.4763482]

>>4763481
quiet fucking mammal I know youre on a plot against me with certain people here, I CAN FEEL IT SO DONT YOU DARE

[Anonymous No.4763485]

>>4763481
Fuck you, he can stay. You assholes refused to help me, so I hope the tripfag keeps shitting this board.

[PULSE DEMON !!HovY3Bfc3gx No.4763488]

>>4763485
i HAVE and will never pick up your cause, we are not equals after all
BEHOLD CRONUS
PULSE DEMON
>>4763481
YOU COULD have avoided this if you had been nicer to me, but you called the pulse demon, summoned him, invited him and well if he wants to do that, why stop him? I was happy with being another anon here, but you summoned the PULSE DEMON, you only have yourself to blame

[Anonymous No.4763490]

>>4763471
>>4763471
i dont give a fuck if you dont want to post. but youre being like a woman. you complained no one is commenting, i ask you to post and you act like its my idea and youre denying me something. ok retard suit yourself. good luck trying to decide what to eat for dinner for the next 6 hours.

[Anonymous No.4763498]

>>4763430
>HOW long have you been drawing anon, splending work

Well, I was drawing just occasionally for my whole life but I only actively started trying to get better at it last April. Since then I've filled up 5 sketchbooks. I've already posted 4 times on just this one thread today.

>>4762160
>>4762706
>>4763192
>>4763408

Trying hard to make up for lost time. Covid means I get to work from home and it's been the greatest thing ever for my drawing. All of you should be taking serious advantage.

[PULSE DEMON !!HovY3Bfc3gx No.4763501]

>>4763490
you summoned the pulse demon
>>4763481
you too
YOUR SINS
>LYING TO ME REGARDING MY FIGURE DRAWINGS, I KNEW THEY WERE SHIT BUT YOU LIED AND TOLD ME THAT YOU COULD FEEL THE FORM WHILE POSTING AN IMAGE OF VILPPU SMILING
>NOT TRASHING A PARTICULARLY DRAWING I DID, I GOT BANNED ON THAT OUTBURST
>INSULTING ME PERSONALLY
FOR THOSE SINS YOU ARE PAYING, IT'S YOUR OWN FAULT
>>4763498
that's good anon, keep up the good work friend
what are you using though? I could use some extra methods actually

[Anonymous No.4763504]

Tell me how to learn digital painting PLEASE

[Anonymous No.4763505]

>>4763439
>how to improve, what to do? I think I'll move on to do another one and another and another one and so on
Study japanese settei.... add expressions and turnarounds to A4 paper, and store it.

[Anonymous No.4763506]

>>4763504
go to ctrlpaint or to Marco Bucci

[Anonymous No.4763507]

>>4763474
I like it, reminds me of KID A album art but with an entryway with the road

[Anonymous No.4763515]

>>4763245
bumping this question

[BLACK LIGHT !!9lFeZT8H0kF No.4763517]

>>4763505
i'm not sure about that

[Anonymous No.4763527]

>>4763242
free draw over

[Anonymous No.4763530]

>>4763527
what have you been studying?

[Anonymous No.4763535]

>>4763517
the basic notion applies, but you could begin with any idea you want to express. people like having a creative database.

[Anonymous No.4763536]

>>4763501
prismacolor markers, and bic ball point pen.sometimes a 2b or 4b pencil. nothing special man.

[Anonymous No.4763537]

>>4763527
39?

[Anonymous No.4763540]

>>4763506
ok, thanks

[Anonymous No.4763542]

>>4763530
no questions pls
>>4763537
original image

[PULSE DEMON !!1yzs76xXGWF No.4763546]

>>4763542
THEN YOU TOO, HAVE SUMMONED THE PULSE DEMON

[Anonymous No.4763549]

>>4763530
>>4763542
>>4763546
lmao

[Anonymous No.4763554]

>>4763234
>I'm beg, but what worked for me is...
Can you draw from observation? If not, Keys to drawing + Iten's accuracy guide. If you can, then do Huston's figure drawing and read the first chapter of Hampton's book, and try to do pic related with all of your references, try to practice with photo references most of the time because depending on the artist, drawings might not be good references for study.

[PULSE DEMON !!OrnWSUfFYOX No.4763556]

>>4763549
DO NOT MOCK THE PULSE DEMON

[PULSE DEMON !!OrnWSUfFYOX No.4763566]

>>4763554
>>4763535
>>4763536
>>4763490
>>4763481
there was a drawing i posted, now i didnt like that one at all and there was another one after that, instead of replying you ignored me, because you hate me dont you? I wont forgive you for that, the PULSE DEMON wont forgive you for that
such a pity
>>4763345
you ignored this one too, that's an extra sin against you

[Anonymous No.4763584]

>>4762498
>telling begs to give up in a /beg/ thread
lol

[Anonymous No.4763585]

>>4763465
ok so i wanted to do a step by step thing but forgot to take the photos midway so theres just 2 steps really.

step 1 is to try to get the joints in the right places and the overall gesture angles and also a few reference points.
and then step 2 is to block out the rest and correct any initial errors from step 1.

[Anonymous No.4763593]

>>4763515
>>4763245
free draw over 2

[Anonymous No.4763600]

>>4763554
First Thanks, I picked up keys to drawing and the Huston course. Ill check out the accuracy guide and the hampton book too. Is that a specific order I should do for that kind of learning or is anyone of those good enough?

>>4763585
Thank you for the response, Do you really just eyeball all the marks or is this a technique to study? Like how do you know where to put the marks exactly?

[Anonymous No.4763603]

>>4763245
Yes. Boxes help because boxes are the simplest thing to draw in correct perspective. Acts as a good reference point for you to figure out where other things should go.

[Anonymous No.4763615]

>>4763234
free draw over 3

[Anonymous No.4763622]

>>4763615
Im sorry I dont understand Im pretty new.

[Anonymous No.4763625]

>>4763622
>Im sorry I dont understand Im pretty new.
learn perspective

[Anonymous No.4763640]

>>4763600
yes i eyeball everything unless im drafting something where accuracy matters alot.

i generally know where to put the marks because well the 1st point can never be wrong and then every point afterwards is relative to another point.

most people drawing this way like to use heads for example they draw a head and then they know that the arms and torso will be about 2.5 of the head they just drew and depending on the pose also account for stuff like foreshortening.

[Anonymous No.4763641]

>>4763625
I downloaded the Huston Course and Keys to drawing. Another person recommended Iten accuracy check and a hampton book? Do you have any specific recommendations for perspective?

[Anonymous No.4763642]

>>4763396
free draw over 4

[Anonymous No.4763643]

>>4763640
Do you mark your pencil/drawing utensil to get the general lengths?

[Anonymous No.4763650]

>>4761969
Been at it for 4 hours and feel like I'm stuck now. What to do next or criticism of what I already did? This shits tough

[Anonymous No.4763653]

>>4763229
what is a shoulder girdle?

[Anonymous No.4763657]

>>4763643
i do not understand what you mean by marking my pencil for lengths but i generally dont use rulers if thats what you were asking.

[Anonymous No.4763658]

>>4763566
you blew it anon. you had your chance. its too late now.

[Anonymous No.4763670]

>>4762590
symbol drawing 101

[Anonymous No.4763671]

>>4763657
I mean like when you eyeball, do you use a reference? im imagining people who measure models with their pencil.

[Anonymous No.4763677]

>>4763650
>>4763242
>>4763148
give up

[Anonymous No.4763680]

>>4763653
It’s a colloquial way of referring to the entire shoulder region, scapula traps, deltoids upper chest, the girl has a messed up shoulder area and neck

[Anonymous No.4763683]

>'ere's 'at digastric plane we mentioned earlier

[Anonymous No.4763688]

>>4763671
i use to but not really anymore since one of the problems doing that is you would have to make sure the distance you hold your pencil out is the same every time or else it will mess everything up. sure you can hold your arm stretched all the way for consistency, it still means you cant lean forward or back at all.

[Anonymous No.4763689]

>>4763641
marshall vandruff's perspective lectures and erik olson at new master's academy
new master's academy is a good investment overall because you have both huston's and vilppu's figure drawing courses on there

[Anonymous No.4763701]

>>4763148
free draw over 5

[PULSE DEMON !!OrnWSUfFYOX No.4763706]

>>4763642
First, don't do that, second you missed it
>>4763658
what?

[PULSE DEMON !!OrnWSUfFYOX No.4763724]

>>4763701
you want to look down on me right? someone from here invited you to mock me, could it have been the people I was talking to yesterday, you're part of a plot against me

[Anonymous No.4763726]

>>4763724
no questions

[PULSE DEMON !!KvmdWZJ3T/q No.4763730]

>>4763726
I'M AS LUCIFER, I'VE FELT THE SAME AS HIM
I TOO FELL TO THIS FORSAKEN AND CURSED EARTH, DON'T YOU DARE TALK TO ME LIKE THAT, YOU FUCKING BASTARD, MAMMAL CUNT
YOU WANT TO HUMILLIATE ME IN FRONT OF EVERYONE, I KNOW IT, EVERYONE WANTS THAT I CAN SEE IT IN THEIR EYES, I CAN FEEL IT, YOU'RE A CUNT, I'LL EAT YOU

[PULSE DEMON !!KvmdWZJ3T/q No.4763732]

so you'll ignore me, even from, all of you are just like everyone else, it's true, I'm the only one actually living on this planet, this whole planet is a prison for me, I'll have my revenge, in time, for now I can take a hint, you all loathe me and plot against me don't you, I must take my leave.

[Anonymous No.4763747]

>>4761971
Thanks for the reference, anon!

I havent been able to draw in 3 fucking days and I was feeling unsinspired now that I finally have time, but autistically enough, this thread rekindled my urge to draw lol

[Anonymous No.4763749]

>>4763680
front view or back view?
i think i fucked up by trying to draw her tattoos. it looks like i tried to draw shadows on her shoulder but she has all these gay dark tattoos

[Anonymous No.4763753]

>>4763642
where did you learn to draw faces, the eyes nose and mouth look great

[Anonymous No.4763767]

How do you draw buildings or man-made structures without rulers
mine look like wibbly wobbly jello blocks

[Anonymous No.4763772]

getting into color

[Anonymous No.4763773]

>>4763683
does huston have and accent? i've never noticed but im esl

[Anonymous No.4763780]

>>4763206
drawing a perfectly foreshortened human in a box in perspective, at multiple angles, at multiple poses is, in fact, not beg. i'm glad that artist is here and can show begs what they can be capable of if they put time and effort into learning...

but to say to begs "THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING" is just retarded. it's like going up to a bunch of freshman studying for a calc 1 exam and telling them they should be studying signal processing and fourier transforms. like, okay... it's useful knowledge, sure... but these people aren't capable of doing what you're asking of them yet

[Anonymous No.4763783]

Whack ass larpers need to spend less time typing and more time drawing

[Anonymous No.4763785]

I have bad news, the vase was not symmetrical in fact one side was smaller and so I decided to start all over, never once did I feel that confusion, waht's wrong with me?
It's like human mammal psychology doesn't apply to me and my cocktail of stuff

[Anonymous No.4763789]

>>4763701
you drew his hair too far in from the side of his forehead, he looks like a hairy forehead freak. fix your doodle

[Anonymous No.4763790]

>>4763783
When I glance over on my screen at least its something to read while I readjust my eyes from drawing.

[Anonymous No.4763794]

>>4763789
>>4763790
answer me

[Anonymous No.4763795]

>>4761946

[Anonymous No.4763803]

>>4763701
*Hasagi intensifies*

[Anonymous No.4763822]

>>4762170
how long have you been drawing? Did you just read his books or watch videos and stuff?

[Anonymous No.4763832]

might be a dumb question, but what's an efficient way to start a drawing when looking at a reference?
two weeks in and I feel like this is my biggest hurdle, I'll have a reference up and then just waste time staring at it wondering where to begin

[Anonymous No.4763840]

im never gonna make it bros, im too old for this and got other shit i gotta do :(

[Anonymous No.4763842]

Today I'm feeling really lazy and I don't feel like studying so I'm making doodles

[Anonymous No.4763849]

>>4763842

[Anonymous No.4763855]

>>4763849

[Anonymous No.4763859]

>>4762728
LMAO those are definitely not gestures

[Anonymous No.4763863]

>>4763701
Alright thanks. This just inspired me to get better. I need to construct my shit better and the blue lines help. You're doing gods work anon

[Anonymous No.4763864]

>>4763593
thx <3

[Anonymous No.4763868]

>>4763863
>>4763864
np

[Anonymous No.4763885]

More practice..
I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing

[Anonymous No.4763888]

>>4763859
thank you. the previous anon already made that clear to me

[Anonymous No.4763908]

Upside down picasso, I already did it for the sticky and this book wants me to do it, wouldn't it be, tainted by me doing it now that I know about it?

[Anonymous No.4763912]

>>4763885
>I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing
Your sense of detail is fantastic but your perspective and foreshortening is a bit off, especially with the upper right guy's left arm and the center bottom dude's left arm. Have you gone through Framed Perspective yet?

[Anonymous No.4763913]

>>4763885
not beginner GTFO of here

[Anonymous No.4763916]

>>4763912
No.. I have a hard time when arms are out stretched away or towards the camera

[Anonymous No.4763919]

How we doin boys?

[Anonymous No.4763945]

Help, I have a problem
I have an issue with scale, like my body just automatically ends up either actually making the lines at the lenght that I'm observing them or just ends up losing a sense of coherent size, it doesn't always happens but just did with the upside down picasso

[Anonymous No.4763950]

>>4763945
Draw using construction. You'll have an easier time fixing your proportions when your drawing is just circles and rectangles rather than after you started adding details.

[Anonymous No.4763951]

How can i made a decent torso

[Anonymous No.4763955]

>>4763950
The upside down picasso is not about construction

[Anonymous No.4763958]

>>4763950
what if this is something regarding me not being able to use the right side of the brain that easily, is that the reason others are better than me? I missed some lines, they were wrong, when others do an upside down picasso they make it a perfect copy

[Anonymous No.4763962]

>>4763958
You'll never improve as long as goro is your favorite character

[Anonymous No.4763963]

>>4763958
>>4763950
and if so how can i fix it?
Anon, help me

[Anonymous No.4763965]

>>4763962
I have many things in common with him, this is fact we both have been wronged by fate, others who don't deserve it btw, are special and loved while we are tossed aside
What is the meaning of me not being able to do a perfect upside down picasso

[Anonymous No.4763968]

so much for helping

[Anonymous No.4764000]

>>4763958
Then I guess it's only a matter of how long you're willing to suffer before you kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.4764002]

>>4764000
In a way I love myself too much to kill myself, others... well we aren't equals after all.

[Anonymous No.4764016]

>>4763842
>>4763849
>>4763855
gote

[Anonymous No.4764091]

how do I draw feet and knees? I'm almost done finally but I don't wanna put in all this effort just to screw up now

[Anonymous No.4764096]

[Anonymous No.4764113]

>>4764091
look at diagrams of bones and muscles

[Anonymous No.4764116]

>>4764091

[Anonymous No.4764126]

>>4764091
Focus on the the shape of kneepads and elbowpads, not the knees and elbows themselves. As for feet, look at combat boot references and see their overall shape and details.

As for nitpicks, the head is too big for his body, it makes him look like a 15 year old. Torso is too short and legs are too long as compared to the reference, though that can be passed off as stylization. Also maybe mechanize and lengthen the gun some more, especially the barrel and suppressor. And give snake some actual trigger discipline too.

You're pretty good / 10

[Anonymous No.4764128]

>>4764116
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.4764131]

>>4764126
I'm not gonna touch the torso because that would require me to re do the entire drawing, but I can fix the little things like the gun and his head

[Anonymous No.4764157]

Best drawing exercises for when you're stuck in a rut?

[Anonymous No.4764164]

>>4764157
Stuck in a rut in what sense? If you're not having fun then try to draw what you want to instead of exercises you don't care about.

[Anonymous No.4764176]

I'm trying something new, trying to work with an "interesting perspective" aka not just head-on. I struggled with the legs and the columns she's standing on. But anyway, this is where it's at so far and I want to know if everything looks right before I move on to line art? And if not, what should I fix?

[Anonymous No.4764219]

>>4764164
Just being unmotivated in general, woke up with a headache and didn't really feel it. Doing some gesture now to keep the hand moving

[Anonymous No.4764249]

>>4764219
Then yeah, just draw what you want and don't worry about the result too much.

[Anonymous No.4764305]

[Anonymous No.4764334]

>>4764305
hey anon, this looks like a hard ref to work from. it looks like she is standing on a mound of dirt. find it helps to think about an even plane the figure is standing on, so you can ensure the more solid relations first, and then draw the body balancing above it. its ok to do torso and then legs after to balance it but i find it more troublesome. keep it up, the only way to improve is to do and think.

[Anonymous No.4764356]

>>4764176
went ahead and put down some line art. Faces are another thing I've been trying to improve on - how does hers looks?

[Anonymous No.4764366]

>>4764334
thank you! i noticed it was hard but in addition to the balance i'm not used to referencing anything but front facing straight bodies. will note your tips

[Anonymous No.4764400]

>>4763732
hey anon, i hope you keep posting your work here, just less ranting, what kind of philosophy do you like?

[Anonymous No.4764414]

I've been lurking for over a decade and people are still feeding the trolls. Gee I wonder why they keep coming back and shitting up threads.

[Anonymous No.4764426]

Done

[Anonymous No.4764469]

>>4764414
>>4764414
I've been lurking for just slightly more than over a decade. not many know, but people once worshiped the trolls. they would scammer over one another to be included, marvel in its visage. two came to a point and line turned to green. warm and inviting are the places of yore.

[Anonymous No.4764471]

>>4764426
nice work anon, its good you saw it through and completed it

[Anonymous No.4764474]

>>4764471
Any ideas of what I can do to improve my future stuff?

[Anonymous No.4764480]

>Loomis wants me to draw a sphere
>draw a geoid instead
LOCK ME UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY

[Anonymous No.4764495]

>>4764474
nope sorry, i just wanted to give some encouragement :)

[Anonymous No.4764536]

>>4764474
it's just like weight lifting, if you're not feeling the burn you're not improving.

[Anonymous No.4764542]

How did I do? Always felt like my art are never good enough and abandoned it halfway through...

[Anonymous No.4764562]

I'm using a wacom tablet with CSP and my curved lines look like polygons when I draw fast. Is this normal?

[Anonymous No.4764587]

>>4764542
well, you're doin better than 70% of other begs here so I'd say pick it up again

[Anonymous No.4764670]

>>4764562
yes

[Anonymous No.4764678]

>>4763317
the face is pretty nice anon

[Anonymous No.4764683]

>>4764562
use pencil. fuck tablets.

[Anonymous No.4764697]

>>4763650
is this from reference? because the shape of the head looks weird

[Anonymous No.4764709]

>>4763767
can't you use another thing as ruler? if not just eyeball it

[Anonymous No.4764715]

>>4763842
nice

[Anonymous No.4764724]

>>4763840
what is you goal? what is your age?

[Anonymous No.4764740]

>>4764562
What's CSP?

[Anonymous No.4764752]

>>4764740
probably clip studio paint

[Anonymous No.4764760]

>>4763919
the far eye should be smaller than the closer one

[Anonymous No.4764765]

>>4764096
it is flat

[Anonymous No.4764771]

>>4764157
gesture drawing and the draw a box exercises

[Anonymous No.4764785]

new thread

>>4764782
>>4764782
>>4764782

[Anonymous No.4764884]

>>4763919
that's not how the bottom eye lid works m8. looks like fetal alcohol syndrome. Almost like you drew a side view eye on the front of her face? Also the swiggliness of the mouth makes her look like a burn victim.Don't do that. crisp smooth lines, anon.

[Anonymous No.4764930]

>>4761971
why are some rotations of the exact same pic so much harder to do...

[Anonymous No.4764949]

>>4759848

[Anonymous No.4765087]

>>4764480
LOL

[Anonymous No.4765130]

>>4761998
body too small

[Anonymous No.4765138]

>>4762616
not accurate to the source material but at least it doesnt look like shit

[Anonymous No.4765155]

>>4763622
he simplified and corrected the shapes for you, this is nothing you can misunderstand. learn from it.

[Anonymous No.4766176]

>>4762744
cringe

[Anonymous No.4766562]

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