/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4743002]

Soul vs Souless

Is it real of just a meme

[Anonymous No.4743008]

>>4743002
It’s a meme

[Anonymous No.4743009]

Isn't soul just lack of understanding

Or

Isn't souless is just no creativity

Someone explain

[Anonymous No.4743016]

>>4743002
soul

>>4743009
soulless

[Anonymous No.4743019]

Is this soul?

[Anonymous No.4743027]

>>4743002
Soul is bad but creative, soulless is polished/skilled but boring and uninspired
So yes, it's a meme

[Anonymous No.4743034]

>>4743002
it's real but people use it wrong and eventually turned it into a meme

[Anonymous No.4743082]

>>4743002
soul

[Anonymous No.4743094]

>>4743019
>That palette
Still souless, stop making these threads

[Anonymous No.4743101]

D/ic/ks use the word "soul" as an excuse for lack of talent and fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.4743104]

>>4743016
you are retarded

[Anonymous No.4743108]

>>4743104
soulless fag detected

[Anonymous No.4743158]

>>4743101
pyw crab
>>4743104
soulless ngmi

[Anonymous No.4743162]

>>4743104
soulless

[Anonymous No.4743170]

>>4743158
you first /beg/

[Anonymous No.4743210]

>>4743002

Does it have life? or does it look like it is made of stone?

Can it have multiple interpretations? Or is it essentially propaganda with a singular purpose?

consider music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgHxmAsINDk
was written by a deaf beethoven

it has no words, and yet it resonates something deep within you

i think the problem with english and lyrics is that its too easy to say THIS IS A SHEEP instead of letting the viewer figure out wow this is a sheep

thats why foreign music can sound so magical
you have no idea what they're saying so you get to decide and make your own interpretation

typically, if you think what you made is revolutionary and awesome, and /ic/ is gonna eat it up, no it probably doesn't have soul.

soul is a lack of confidence apparent in the work, a simple "here is my creation..." a humility and a honesty with yourself that what you're doing you're doing because you're acting within the bounds of your true purpose.

basically if you love drawing furry art, and really draw a good picture with your whole heart, the soul will come burning through. if you decide to stop because the internet says "furry art is bad" and start doing realism even though you don't like it, its going to be obvious, because you're not acting in your true purpose.

[Anonymous No.4743220]

Ralph waldo emerson: the poet, which i recommend everyone read if you want to understand soul :
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/69389/from-the-poet

It is a secret which every intellectual man quickly learns, that, beyond the energy of his possessed and conscious intellect, he is capable of a new energy (as of an intellect doubled on itself), by abandonment to the nature of things; that, beside his privacy of power as an individual man, there is a great public power, on which he can draw, by unlocking, at all risks, his human doors, and suffering the ethereal tides to roll and circulate through him: then he is caught up into the life of the Universe, his speech is thunder, his thought is law, and his words are universally intelligible as the plants and animals. The poet knows that he speaks adequately, then, only when he speaks somewhat wildly, or, “with the flower of the mind”; not with the intellect, used as an organ, but with the intellect released from all service, and suffered to take its direction from its celestial life; or, as the ancients were wont to express themselves, not with intellect alone, but with the intellect inebriated by nectar. As the traveller who has lost his way, throws his reins on his horse’s neck, and trusts to the instinct of the animal to find his road, so must we do with the divine animal who carries us through this world. For if in any manner we can stimulate this instinct, new passages are opened for us into nature, the mind flows into and through things hardest and highest, and the metamorphosis is possible.

[Anonymous No.4743221]

>>4743220


This is the reason why bards love wine, mead, narcotics, coffee, tea, opium, the fumes of sandalwood and tobacco, or whatever other species of animal exhilaration. All men avail themselves of such means as they can, to add this extraordinary power to their normal powers; and to this end they prize conversation, music, pictures, sculpture, dancing, theatres, travelling, war, mobs, fires, gaming, politics, or love, or science, or animal intoxication, which are several coarser or finer quasi-mechanical substitutes for the true nectar, which is the ravishment of the intellect by coming nearer to the fact. These are auxiliaries to the centrifugal tendency of a man, to his passage out into free space, and they help him to escape the custody of that body in which he is pent up, and of that jail-yard of individual relations in which he is enclosed. Hence a great number of such as were professionally expressors of Beauty, as painters, poets, musicians, and actors, have been more than others wont to lead a life of pleasure and indulgence; all but the few who received the true nectar; and, as it was a spurious mode of obtaining freedom, an emancipation not into the heavens, but into the freedom of baser places, they were punished for that advantage they won, by a dissipation and deterioration. But never can any advantage be taken of nature by a trick. The spirit of the world, the great calm presence of the creator, comes not forth to the sorceries of opium or of wine. The sublime vision comes to the pure and simple soul in a clean and chaste body. That is not an inspiration which we owe to narcotics, but some counterfeit excitement and fury. Milton says, that the lyric poet may drink wine and live generously, but the epic poet, he who shall sing of the gods, and their descent unto men, must drink water out of a wooden bowl.

[Anonymous No.4743224]

>>4743221

For poetry is not “Devil’s wine,” but God’s wine. It is with this as it is with toys. We fill the hands and nurseries of our children with all manner of dolls, drums, and horses, withdrawing their eyes from the plain face and sufficing object of nature, the sun, and moon, the animals, the water, and stones, which should be their toys. So the poet’s habit of living should be set on a key so low and plain, that the common influences should delight him. His cheerfulness should be the gift of the sunlight; the air should suffice for his inspiration, and he should be tipsy with water. That spirit which suffices quiet hearts, which seems to come forth to such from every dry knoll of sere grass, from every pinestump, and half-imbedded stone, on which the dull March sun shines, comes forth to the poor and hungry, and such as are of simple taste. If thou fill thy brain with Boston and New York, with fashion and covetousness, and wilt stimulate thy jaded senses with wine and French coffee, thou shalt find no radiance of wisdom in the lonely waste of the pinewoods.

If the imagination intoxicates the poet, it is not inactive in other men. The metamorphosis excites in the beholder an emotion of joy.

[Anonymous No.4743231]

>>4743224

Art is the path of the creator to his work. The paths, or methods, are ideal and eternal, though few men ever see them, not the artist himself for years, or for a lifetime, unless he come into the conditions. The painter, the sculptor, the composer, the epic rhapsodist, the orator, all partake one desire, namely, to express themselves symmetrically and abundantly, not dwarfishly and fragmentarily. They found or put themselves in certain conditions, as, the painter and sculptor before some impressive human figures; the orator, into the assembly of the people; and the others, in such scenes as each has found exciting to his intellect; and each presently feels the new desire. He hears a voice, he sees a beckoning. Then he is apprised, with wonder, what herds of daemons hem him in. He can no more rest; he says, with the old painter, “By God, it is in me, and must go forth of me.” He pursues a beauty, half seen, which flies before him. The poet pours out verses in every solitude. Most of the things he says are conventional, no doubt; but by and by he says something which is original and beautiful. That charms him. He would say nothing else but such things. In our way of talking, we say, “That is yours, this is mine;” but the poet knows well that it is not his; that it is as strange and beautiful to him as to you; he would fain hear the like eloquence at length. Once having tasted this immortal ichor, he cannot have enough of it, and, as an admirable creative power exists in these intellections, it is of the last importance that these things get spoken. What a little of all we know is said! What drops of all the sea of our science are baled up! and by what accident it is that these are exposed, when so many secrets sleep in nature! Hence the necessity of speech and song; hence these throbs and heart-beatings in the orator, at the door of the assembly, to the end, namely, that thought may be ejaculated as Logos, or Word.

[Namefag69 No.4743476]

>>4743220
This nigga just gave the keys to unlocking the Eight trigram 64 palms of heaven and activating ultra instinct at the same time back in the 1800’s?


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Based.

[Anonymous No.4743483]

>>4743002
christ how many times do we need to have these same fucking threads

[Anonymous No.4743489]

>>4743002
When I hear it from /ic/, it's a meme.

[Anonymous No.4743506]

>>4743002
It's real, soul pretty much means that - despite the technical quality on the drawing- the author got SOMETHING right. Perhaps it was color, or shape design, or the message itself was cute and didn't feel forced. It pretty much means it flows well or has something that makes it appealing EVEN if we can identify it as a low quality drawing. So even /beg/s can be soulful by getting something right.
The tricky thing is to define something as soulless. What is the thing that your drawing lacks to be called soulless? It's easy to identify what you like but this gets harder.
I think it means you got one of the fundies (or the idea itself) really wrong. Perhaps you did a really good Goku drawing but decided to color his skin bluish and the eyes dull so even if the technical quality is good, no one will really like it and it'll just feel boring / soulless.
It also happens to forced humor or jumping on bandwagons that are clearly outside your niche and the drawing lacks passion... Idk, as I said I can't say what thing you failed at, but I definitely know when something is soulless.

[Anonymous No.4743518]

[Anonymous No.4743541]

this cat is so fucking cute

[Anonymous No.4743549]

>>4743518
>Does it look like the artist had fun
Literally the only question you need on there