/beg/ BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.4741955]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make YOURSELF feel proud.

previous thread >>4740331

READ THE STICKY if you're new or need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

[Anonymous No.4741958]

reference 1

[Anonymous No.4741960]

reference 2

[Anonymous No.4741962]

reference 3

[Anonymous No.4741964]

male reference

[Anonymous No.4741965]

working on crinkly fabric

[Anonymous No.4741967]

>>4741965

part duex

[Anonymous No.4741968]

>>4741964
>>4741962
>>4741960
>>4741958
Sir.
This is /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4742046]

I’m a trad guy, but bought an iPad and started noodling around procreate, first time rendering, wanted to go in a more semi-realistic style....

Are there any tips to rendering? Doing this in. Digital is way more weird than traditional....

[Anonymous No.4742087]

20-30min gouache thumbnails
critique

[Anonymous No.4742090]

>>4741967
>>4741965
Why you keep posting this, mane. You already got feedback on the last thread.

[Anonymous No.4742094]

>>4742087
cool man, if you dont mind me asking do you have to use thick paper like watercolor paper to paint in gouache or anything above printer paper can do?

[New No.4742098]

I've never drawn anything in my life.
Help.
10-30 minutes in 3 separate sessions.
I watched this video first
https://youtu.be/xWMMo1v594Y?t=272

[Anonymous No.4742131]

Watery Gouache

[Anonymous No.4742135]

how the fuck previous thread died so quickly?

[Anonymous No.4742153]

>>4742087
references
>>4742094
300g is the best you can even work like watercolor
200g is good if you are not to overwork it
but im using a 300g recycled paper its very very cheap

[Anonymous No.4742191]

>>4742046
im a beg, but im doing this

[Anonymous No.4742195]

did these 30 sec to 1min Ref sketches before.

thinking about geting back into drawing, stoped for 3 years.
Am i fucked?

[Anonymous No.4742202]

>>4742135
schizoposting and arguing over saggy tits

[Anonymous No.4742204]

>>4742131
/int/

[Anonymous No.4742212]

>>4742191
1.face form is ok
2. lips curve is wrong
3. nose must be shorter, bigger and more upward looking.
4. overall big forehead

will try to draw this

[Anonymous No.4742222]

just a quick 30seconds

[Anonymous No.4742223]

A quick Rumia.

[Anonymous No.4742225]

>>4742131
Can't give any feedback but I really like this. I guess the shadows on the sides of the nose look strange but not bad, and her right eye looks slightly skewed.

[Anonymous No.4742235]

>>4742046
still meh

[Anonymous No.4742239]

>>4742202
It was funny,
I just wanted a 2nd opinion/redline on my drawing then people started to fight
Had a good time

[Anonymous No.4742247]

>>4742195
Try to use lighter lines to feel out the figure and only use darker lines when you've decide what line you're going to draw and commit to it

[Anonymous No.4742254]

>>4741553
Glad you like it lol

[Anonymous No.4742259]

>>4742046
Ctrl+Paint is the standard digital painting resource, but I don't know how useful it might be with procreate and if you already have trad painting experience.
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library/

[Anonymous No.4742264]

>>4742223
I love it, keep drawing.
>>4742222
try getting the overall pose down with less lines.
>>4742195
gmi if you stick to it..

[Anonymous No.4742266]

>>4742131
Eyes are asymmetric. The one on the right looks fine, but the other one is skewed and weird. You'll probably see if if you flip the image. Also, the lines around the nose look too strong. Maybe not wrong, but unnecessary.
I like the colors and the overall style, though.

[Anonymous No.4742279]

compiled devin korwin's color theory threads on twitter in some sort of series of infographics for my own personal use, but figured why not post it just in case some of you fuckers can make use of it

[Anonymous No.4742283]

>>4742279
welp, hit image size limit

here's the imgur gallery: https://imgur.com/a/1JU6vaC

[Anonymous No.4742354]

>>4742264
thanks

[Anonymous No.4742370]

>>4742195
>>4742264
thanks
Basic bitch face ca. 20 min

[Anonymous No.4742380]

>>4742370
>4032x3024

[Anonymous No.4742387]

[Anonymous No.4742415]

here is five day beg progress

[Anonymous No.4742459]

>>4742223
the right leg is fine but I thing the left one should taper more, same with the arms.

It would be better to not have folds, but if you want them try some tutorial or use some reference at least.

the expression is pure soul, I really like it

[Anonymous No.4742462]

>>4742415
Doing good anon! Keep up the work and you'll be out of /beg/ in no time

[Anonymous No.4742515]

>>4742462
whats wrong with /beg/

[Anonymous No.4742564]

>>4742515
Very toxic for some reason. While other draw threads are alot more relaxed.

[Anonymous No.4742576]

Have been using my drawing tablet for 2 weeks and now that I've gotten somewhat used to it, I started with practicing gestures. Pic related is my first attempt with digital drawing. Am I on the right track or am I doing something wrong like focusing too much on proportions or something like that.

[Anonymous No.4742614]

>>4741955
lined paper fucker here. rendering hair and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

[Anonymous No.4742621]

>>4742614
same as this from about 2 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.4742634]

>>4742614
same ref as this from about 2 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.4742644]

>>4742576
im a beg so dont take me super seriously but i read in steve huston and hampton's books to not oppose curves symmetrically like that since it kills flow, shitty picture included that explains what i mean, read the mentioned books for a better explanation

[Anonymous No.4742695]

What could I fix in this piece before I digitalize it? She's stamping to the ground

[Anonymous No.4742699]

>>4742695
what does that mean, stamping the ground?
Looks like she is falling straight down.

[Anonymous No.4742701]

>>4742699
yep, that one

[Anonymous No.4742709]

>>4742564
aka /beg/ is the least hugbox thread. It's where the real niggas at

[Anonymous No.4742716]

>>4742709
Yea no. I think the negativity here is too much and just doesnt help. Every other draw thread has been more useful to me.

[Anonymous No.4742739]

>>4742716
If you want to learn just focus on what they say and not how they say it.

[Anonymous No.4742742]

>>4742387
hot

[Anonymous No.4742744]

>>4742716
because in other threads you get help from people than know what they are doing. In here you get only "help" from other begs, who read one book on one topic, and will shit on you based on their own "I think it should be done like this" even if they don't understand anything. I don't see any value in this thread other than shit posting.

[Anonymous No.4742747]

>>4742695
why does her peepee look thru her panties?????????????????????

[Anonymous No.4742751]

>>4742744
Solution: only listen to people who redline you competently, essentially posting their work in the process
Then you'll know who's a fraud and who is real deal.

[Anonymous No.4742760]

>>4742751
I don't come here for advice man, that would be stupid. For advice I come to youtube and other artists that were drawing for years, and years. Why should I try to get advice rom someone who "might" be good, if I can go to any place where you can see a name attached to a person, and see their work.

[Anonymous No.4742766]

>>4742751
lmao at this max cope

[Anonymous No.4742769]

>>4742564
>/asg/
>relaxed
Obvious you haven’t been here long.

[Anonymous No.4742774]

>>4742459
thanks for the feedback

[Anonymous No.4742777]

It might sound stupid, but I come here to see begs throw fits on people that are better than them
>no, you can't do that!!
>this isn't loomis!!
>the anatomy isn't like that!
>what about that strand of hair?
>measuring is cheating!!

[Anonymous No.4742780]

>>4742760
>youtube
spoke like a true zoomer

[Anonymous No.4742784]

>>4742777
You’re not alone, kek.

[Anonymous No.4742786]

>>4742780
read your books boomer, while I copy et another artist
I'm sure someone that knows loomis 100% will red line your anime drawing in here hehe

[Anonymous No.4742787]

>>4742780
name?

[Anonymous No.4742788]

>>4742786
copying another artist without knowing what you're doing is a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.4742789]

Kinda getting there, but side by side there seems to be many errors

Plus I didn’t liked how I had to overlay the images to notice my first placement of nose and lips were too high

[Anonymous No.4742794]

>>4742788
>Oh, I'm not going to copy those appealing shapes of eyes, nose, ears, jaw from this artist, I would rather draw for 2 years myself and arrive at the same conclussion as this artist that 100% knows better what he is doing than me
copy art. Don't copy life

[Anonymous No.4742795]

>>4742786
>boomer
sure i didn't see that coming, please let us see hows that sycra,porko,mike tuts doing for you

[Anonymous No.4742797]

>>4742795
I watch mostly synix, because he isn't an autist like proko about anatomy (nobody gives a fuck about it), and draws 10 times better than sycra

[Anonymous No.4742798]

>>4742794
learn from artists, don't just copy artists, i would rather learn how to draw the human figure in any pose in 6 months than 6 years because measured copies are terrible

[Anonymous No.4742800]

>>4742798
dont bother man im pretty sure its the guy defending the bargue drawings a few days back

[Anonymous No.4742804]

>>4742794
What if you copy a piece of art that is bad and you don't even see the glaring errors that you just inherited

[Anonymous No.4742805]

>>4742798
I can change my style in a day so my drawings will look 2 times more appealing, just from "stealing" shapes from someone else. If you can't put a nose on a head, yeah probably study anatomy
but after that, nboody gives a fuck
you are going to steal, and steal a lot

[Anonymous No.4742808]

>>4742804
>thousands of people say the art is good
>copy it
>one beg on beg says the art has glaring mistakes
>oh no, I inherited those glaring mistakes
I'll take the risk my man

[Anonymous No.4742810]

>>4742805
>you are going to steal, and steal a lot
never said otherwise, but we are talking about learning, for /beg/, not how to do work, come up with ideas/inspiration

[Anonymous No.4742811]

>>4742808
drawing art just to impress people, ngmi

[Anonymous No.4742814]

>>4742087
I know watercolor is scary. now that you have nicely do e thumbnails, you need to risk it all to give the values the depth they deserve. Put that "black" that you know you need. Otherwise beautifully done

[Anonymous No.4742817]

>>4742810
the should copy other aritsts. Not draw from life. This is how they draw each strand line by line, rather than coloring it all black (which isn't how you draw hair, but it looks 10 times better than strands shit)

[Anonymous No.4742822]

>>4742817
why not both for best results

[Anonymous No.4742826]

>just copy brah
>uhhh... it's muh style LM@O

[Anonymous No.4742827]

>>4742822
cuz i say so your dumb

[Anonymous No.4742830]

>>4742822
because most of them want to draw good in a week, not knowing it takes years. It's better for them to copy an artist style, and draw something appealing, and gain a lot of
confidence in their own skills, than draw shit, and "just read loomis".
It's the same with learning a language, an autists will tell you
>man, just learn all 2500 kanji, then start learning language. Man it is so easy, and faster that way
and someone normal will tell you
>do what makes you happy, because in the long run, if it makes you happy, you will keep doing it, and not burn out
that's why drawing 1000 boxes is fucking stupid, and you should just copy things that make you happy

[Anonymous No.4742831]

>>4742827
HAHAHAHAHA, that's a good reason to listen to a nobody on the internet. you sure showed me why your method is better.

[Anonymous No.4742835]

>>4742564
wtf?! beg is comfy as fuck!

[Anonymous No.4742837]

>>4742830
how does loomis compare to learning 2500 kanji before learning the language or drawing 1000 boxes?
you learn construction first then you go copy whatever you or your cock want, not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.4742841]

>>4742837
dunno, I don't read art books, they are a waste of time. I don't know what is in there xd

[Anonymous No.4742843]

anyways lets get back to some art, face kun here, this isnt my face of the day but thought id post some reference art

[Anonymous No.4742846]

>>4742841
I figure so, bunch of zoomers in /beg/ this year

[Anonymous No.4742848]

>>4742843
based and soulpilled

[Anonymous No.4742849]

>>4742846
your time is gone old man. Now we watch teh masters, and learn from them 10 times faster than reading books.

[Anonymous No.4742850]

>>4742695
I think the s shape of her leg is too strong

[Anonymous No.4742860]

>>4742744
do you know that there is nothing stopping begs from here to give advice on the other threads right? and vice versa too?

[Anonymous No.4742862]

>line weight
>line confidence
>line quality
>drawing from the shoulder
I'm literally never going to get good at this. Can I avoid having to deal with it by painting or something or am I never going to be able to run from this issue?

[Anonymous No.4742865]

>>4742862
buy a drawing tablet
when drawing zoom out, so even a small stroke will be big
when making mistakes you will always press ctrl and z, so you will get cofident

[Anonymous No.4742878]

>>4742865
I am drawing digitally, but it's very small so it's really uncomfortable to draw from the shoulder. If I want to do that then I basically have to zoom in so that every stroke takes up as much area on the tablet as possible.

[Anonymous No.4742879]

>>4742878
who the fuck draws from the shoulder on a tablet xd

[Anonymous No.4742880]

>>4742777
>measuring is cheating
Nobody says that or has ever said that

[Anonymous No.4742882]

>>4742797
>Sycra
This bothers me. That guy has been drawing for atleast a decade and knows what he is talking about and yet his art is just okay? This scarea me since i relate to him in many ways.

[Anonymous No.4742883]

>>4742882
some people are just better teachers than appliers, theres skill in both

[Anonymous No.4742885]

>>4742879
people who avoids getting carpal syndrome and have a medium or large size tablet

[Anonymous No.4742888]

>>4742843
>face kun here
cringe

[Anonymous No.4742890]

>>4742879
Even on a small tablet there are lines that shouldnt be drawn with a hand.

[Anonymous No.4742892]

>>4742888
face kun here, fuck you :)

[Anonymous No.4742894]

15 min sketch at lunch today

[Anonymous No.4742895]

>>4742882
>10 times better
10 times better for me. You might have different style. Sycra is 2000 times better than any of us, so if you aspire to be like him, you don't aspire to be shit. Just don't copy his cringy style, because it is weird xd

[Anonymous No.4742901]

>>4742895
> xd
Not hating but where did u come from newfriend.

[Anonymous No.4742912]

>>4742895
agree, sycra isnt bad but the style he chooses to draw is just, bleh

[Anonymous No.4742921]

>>4742614
Don't use Pencil, try to use ink or pen, you will improve really fast.
MIN 13:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjUv0Zv0T8o

[Anonymous No.4743007]

Dumb question but is it generally best for you to find whats suited for you? I watch these videos on how to construct faces and it makes sense but I can't seem to grasp it. Drawing the circle,drawing the chin from the circle, etc. Meanwhile I get better results with a very poorly drawn oval and placing proportion lines for how I want it to be posed, then I just start sketching the shape of the face and get better results than the standard construction process. Only wondering cause I'm worried I might miss out on some foundation principle?

[Anonymous No.4743018]

>>4743007
if you get fucked by mainstream "formal" construction head methods that's fine i recommend you look at how steve huston constructs them in his head course, he basically does what you do except with a rounded triangle or 2 ovals
>>4742921
thanks ill try that

[Anonymous No.4743020]

>>4742695
Alright started doing the lineart before going to sleep, will finish tomorrow. Opinions on this Lineart style in general? I am mainly trying to emulate Moebius, Enki Bilal and Akihiko Yoshida

[Anonymous No.4743021]

>>4743007
No rules
Only tools

[Anonymous No.4743024]

>>4743020
where the fuck is the light coming from??

[Anonymous No.4743041]

>>4743020
>She's stamping to the ground
I don't get it is she falling down?

[Anonymous No.4743043]

>>4743007
>I'm worried I might miss out on some foundation principle?
every time that you come up with something on your own you run this risk, but as long you understand and give a fair try to the standard way the risk should be pretty small

but

>very poorly drawn oval and placing proportion lines
sounds like the way sketching manga-style teaches.

[Anonymous No.4743044]

>>4743020
hairy arms, also wtf is the pose i dont understand

[Anonymous No.4743066]

>>4742780
>not using every resource available

[Anonymous No.4743077]

So is Loomis worth reading or not? It seems like for every shill there's one hater. What exactly are the criticisms against him anyways? Best I've heard is that his teaching method is extremely dry.

[Anonymous No.4743089]

>>4742789
proportions are off, not too bad but still noticeable. You'd benefit working with a bigger brush while trying to block the planes of the face and proportions beforehand while practicing with limited values (and a hard brush) or using images that don't force you to fixate too much on details. Use a bust or something that is simpler and you won't have to deal with distracting stuff like hair for example.

[Anonymous No.4743090]

All I was able to get done today.

[Anonymous No.4743102]

>>4743090
Very nice

[Anonymous No.4743113]

>>4743090
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4743120]

>>4743020edwerqwswe
not sure about that left arm, it is kinda michelin looking, I think it has to do with the deltoid's connections

>t. beg

[Anonymous No.4743123]

>>4743066
>not drawing

[Anonymous No.4743130]

>>4742894
I really really liked the black levels you used on the hat but it feels like you used a wojak and turned it into an old sailor man

[Anonymous No.4743137]

Tried posting it on trad but that place is a shitshow. Oil on som kind of acrilyc paper.

[Anonymous No.4743144]

>>4742843
>face kun here
Literally who?

It has a little bit of Kojima feel to it I wonder if he used to draw like this at 6 years old. Put more effort into your work "Face-kun"

[Anonymous No.4743147]

>>4743144
>Literally who?

read the line above

[Anonymous No.4743159]

>>4743137
What a cute looking birb although it has some strange proportions. Fantastical effort but try working on your backgrounds, it's a little bit too blurry

[Anonymous No.4743161]

>>4743147
I think he draws a face every day, but they all look the same (like shit)
he also spergs when someone draws better than him, but doesn't read a sticky. I think, that he might think that he is pretty good

[Anonymous No.4743163]

>>4743090
NOT BEG GET OUT

[Anonymous No.4743167]

>>4742387
Based tranny poster I missed you so much

[Anonymous No.4743168]

>>4743043
>manga-style teaches

Ya, I'm pretty much drawing anime and I've watched a few videos of the standard way to draw anime/manga faces but its always off for me. I watch a speed draw and some did the crude oval so I tried that out and it felt easier for me to see the face and place the features.

[Anonymous No.4743173]

>>4743167
i drew this (face kun)

[Anonymous No.4743174]

>>4742894
went into my wojak folder

[Anonymous No.4743175]

>>4743161
days later and youre still mad

[Anonymous No.4743180]

>>4743159
thx, yeha it got fatter and fatter every time i fixed something. background is deffinitly a bit shit, it was ment to be blurry, but les vissible. weird paper drank the paint in and ended up realy thicc

[Anonymous No.4743182]

>>4742370
>4032x3024
ffs

Okay is this made out of reference or imagination? Eyes are a bit cartoony but the biggest issue is the spaghetti looking hair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHewz3JbKrQ

Watch Proko's tutorial on how to draw hair or any other tutorial that match your style or ability, you can do better.

[Anonymous No.4743185]

>>4743163
>beg

[Anonymous No.4743187]

wow this is my first attempt at finishing a loomis head and all I can say is its so fucking bad its hilarious

I'm getting the knoose ready bois

[Anonymous No.4743191]

>>4743187
>just read loomis guys
>don't watch youtube zoomers

[Anonymous No.4743198]

>>4743187
needs less Loomis

[Anonymous No.4743202]

i'm going to be honest feels awful coming here and everyone being digital while I only have money for pencils, paper and erasers

[Anonymous No.4743204]

>>4743187
i think loomis overcomplicates things a bit. it can help a lot but its more abot the basics. what works for me is proportional measurements and angles. then i identiify areas with different tones

[Anonymous No.4743208]

>>4743202
i use pencil paper and erasers its great

[Anonymous No.4743209]

>>4743007
I recommend doing it however you want, then when you have a face you like try reverse engineering it using construction. That way you have the features you want already in mind and can learn how they work (if they work) in 3D space. Change up your process, sometimes doing construction first and sometimes second, so that the two methods inform and refine each other.

[Anonymous No.4743211]

>>4743187
>floating head

[Anonymous No.4743213]

How do I draw like this?

[Anonymous No.4743214]

>>4743202
you can do amazing things with pencil and paper. dürer didnt have a tablet

[Anonymous No.4743215]

>>4741955
Reposting here because didn't get any responses on the porn thread. making my first comic, this page obviously doesn't have porn, but i hope to get there soon

[Anonymous No.4743219]

>>4743213
ready sticky

[Anonymous No.4743222]

>>4743202
>I only have money for pencils, paper and erasers
And that's the only thing you need other than that second guessing yourself over not having access to an expensive tablet or whatever it's just a thing on your mind

[Anonymous No.4743223]

>>4743219
well, you read the sticky and you still draw like you know what

[Anonymous No.4743225]

>>4743215
make her boob show underboobs from V

[Anonymous No.4743226]

>>4743213
By doing the upside down Stravinsky

[Anonymous No.4743229]

>>4743223
yeah, it worked for me and i'm a brainlet

[Anonymous No.4743234]

>>4743229
>it worked for me
don't tell him

[Anonymous No.4743238]

>>4743202
digital is for homos
chads are trad

[Anonymous No.4743239]

>>4743077
Give it a try and see for yourself if he’sa good teacher or not

[Anonymous No.4743245]

>>4743187
>Loomis head
Where's the construction? Loomis is all about dat construction.

[Anonymous No.4743248]

How is my posing looking? And my anatomy? I've not done arm poses like this before and wanted to try something new.

[Anonymous No.4743250]

>>4743215
Jessie manages to look kind of pornish despite being fully clothed, so I'd say you're off to a good start.

[Anonymous No.4743251]

>>4743226
Is it a meme? I actually don't understand the purpose of that exercise.

[Anonymous No.4743252]

>>4743248
Hey this looks pretty good
although i cant help but think that top half is male and bottom is female...
t. beg

[Anonymous No.4743253]

>>4743211
>>4743204
>>4743198
>>4743191
>>4743245
yes, I am getting the knoose ready. Why do you ask?

nah but fr loomis is seeming like more and more of a fucking meme every day.

[Anonymous No.4743260]

How are my gestures looking?

[Anonymous No.4743261]

How should I start doing the fundamentals in digital? I feel like loomis's funny faces don't help me

[Anonymous No.4743274]

>>4743261
Take it from me and almost every other anon on this board >>4743187

Dont

[Anonymous No.4743275]

>>4743274
You didn't even used construction lines, that's not loomis, that is half assing your drawing

[Anonymous No.4743277]

a quick one I did to make fun of my friend

[Anonymous No.4743287]

>>4743253
If you're legit which I seriously doubt you deserve to get meme'd because you have been posting the same faces for months now.
Either you have no talent at all or you have a serious cognitive problem in order to not show any improvement in months or you're doing this to get a kick out of this and I lean towards the last option.

[Anonymous No.4743290]

>>4743275
meh. Might be true but I am looking to other head methods and not only are they more fun, but they feel better to do

>>4743287
I dont think I'm him lol. This was the first head I have literally ever completed. I have been so caught up in anatomy practice and other shit I didnt even focus on the heads besides their direction and angle lol

[Anonymous No.4743292]

>>4743277
You sound like a shit friend.

[Anonymous No.4743293]

>>4743260
10/10

[Anonymous No.4743294]

>>4743290
Most head tuts out there on the internet are pretty much a sphere and a 3d upside down sort of triangle shape, it is pretty much what loomis does.

[Anonymous No.4743297]

5-6 minute Vilppu studies

[Anonymous No.4743303]

>>4741955
Why is there misunderstanding that newbies don't want practice but just improvement?
People is doubting the practices because it's mostly seems unrelated.
>I want to draw a head, why are you asking me to draw boxes?
And it's all /beg/ fault because you guys are such horrible and shitty teachers.

[Anonymous No.4743305]

>>4743182
>Ref or no
Somewhat in the middle.
>Spaghetti
yea wasnt the greatest idea to do it like that

[Anonymous No.4743307]

>>4743293
Happy to hear that, thanks.

[Anonymous No.4743311]

>>4743187
>>4743253
Seriously, though, where are the construction lines? What even makes this a "Loomis head"?

[Anonymous No.4743312]

>>4743303
>And it's all /beg/ fault because you guys are such horrible and shitty teachers.
No, no, no. You've got it all wrong. /beg/ isn't made of shitty teachers, it's made of shitty students.

[Anonymous No.4743315]

>>4743311
on the hidden layer lol

[Anonymous No.4743320]

>>4743315
also no, >>4743311 I'm not being sarcastic. I just hid the layer after going over it again

[Anonymous No.4743327]

>>4743274
I already said I didn't want to do loomis. Give me another person to start off with for learning shapes and construction

[Anonymous No.4743329]

>>4743305
It's a common beginner mistake, if you don't know how to draw something you'll end up drawing how you think it's supposed to be drawn.
Now that I've presented you the information I expect you to learn from this and do better next time, don't be like the "head guy" who makes the same mistakes over and over again and like I said Proko isn't the only option maybe there's other style out there that might appeal to you more or it's easier for you to do but remember that there is no shortcuts for this, you really have to practice.

[Anonymous No.4743330]

>>4741955
Is taking art classes more efficient, or can the same results be achieved by independent study?

[Anonymous No.4743338]

>>4743330
if the teacher is good, he will make you avoid bad habits before its too late

[Anonymous No.4743344]

>>4743327
if simple isn't fun for you, try bridgman or if you're a masochist bargue

[Anonymous No.4743346]

went for an anime style to mix it up, not a big fan

[Anonymous No.4743352]

Asked this in the previous thread and didn't get an answer, hopefully someone here can help.


I seen a lot of people (including Craig Mullins) to disable any kind of pressure sens tied to opacity when painting digitally. No pressure opacity. Is this a thing everyone does? The majority of of timelapse/tuts/anything I see around the net seem to use pressure opacity, what gives?

[Anonymous No.4743354]

>>4743303
Because that's legitimately how some people think. Obviously nobody will admit it directly but few people are at peace with the idea of putting in hard work or effort, and everyone wants some secret trick that gives instant results.
People joke about it but there is money to be made in trying to shovel online courses that teach the secret "easy" or "fast" way to improve at something.

[Anonymous No.4743355]

>>4743352
" seen a lot of people (including Craig Mullins) to disable any kind of pressure"

"The majority of of timelapse/tuts/anything I see around the net seem to use pressure opacity"

make up your mind, what have you seen?

[Anonymous No.4743356]

>>4743338

[Anonymous No.4743360]

>>4743303
>And it's all /beg/ fault because you guys are such horrible and shitty teachers.
I agree, most advice are given by people like the "head man".
How can you improve your art when people like that are sort of teaching you?
The answer is real simple, read the fucking sticky. There's plenty of useful information there and you can even download the whole Loomis but this is ignored for some reason.
I wish I could've been born in this era where you can easily look for information and my point is, even if the Loomis doesn't appeal to you there's still plenty other options out there for you to learn.
It's real easy to blame /beg/ for your shitty art but if you're not willing to learn, change you ways, look for information on your own and/or grind this craft you'll always be a /beg/

[Anonymous No.4743363]

>>4743360
head man here, i dont post advice really i just post my shitty head then leave

[Anonymous No.4743365]

yesterday finished the 3rd Vilppu video, i can't believe how good teacher he is is like Marshall level of teaching, bully pls

[Anonymous No.4743370]

>>4743327
Unironically Vilppu.

I tried doing different anatomy and figure drawing courses before vilppu, but never actually finished one because the concepts didn’t stick with me. After watching his round forms lecture something clicked and I could actually understand the forms of the human body. I will never stop shilling this man.

[Anonymous No.4743373]

>>4743312
Yesterday we had a guy that gave the critique along the lines of "the anatomy and perspective is wrong, also study shape appeal."
But then staunchly refused to elaborate when asked to, instead saying "who gives a fuck just draw more"

[Anonymous No.4743374]

>bro just draw the funny faces you'll get better bro

[Anonymous No.4743375]

>>4743344
Stop misleading begs

[Anonymous No.4743384]

Where do I begin with Vilppu?

[Anonymous No.4743390]

>>4743355
That's what I mean. I hear this advice a lot from pretty prominent artists, but I don't see a lot of people actually doing it.

[Anonymous No.4743393]

>>4743384
drawing manual

[Anonymous No.4743394]

>struggle with digital drawing for months
>feel like I'm going nowhere
>pick up a shitty ballpoint pen I found and do some drawings on the back of a paper plate
>it feels 10000 times easier, more satisfying and more fun
tradchads, i kneel...

[Anonymous No.4743395]

>>4743274
Keys to Drawing, then Figure Drawing for Artists
Do all the exercises

[Anonymous No.4743396]

I suck but like, not entirely. I keep on practicing/studying human anatomy through pictures and image of muscles and skeleton but I still block deep hard when I don't seem to understand the reference. I feel like like buying a good book on theory of anatomy and bing read it(and practice) in august at 30h/week. What is your recommendation?

pict related is 10 min of sketch to give an idea

[Anonymous No.4743397]

>>4743395
Keys to drawing seemed interesting but hard to do digitally

[Anonymous No.4743399]

>>4743384
I tried reading his book and I’m currently watching his older course. I think he goes into more detail in his course and he also gives demos.

[Anonymous No.4743403]

>>4743374
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.4743404]

>>4743390
its the sort of question that is just down to taste i think, its not going to affect your art

[Anonymous No.4743409]

>>4743396
You suck but at posting a decent picture. I can't see shit

[Anonymous No.4743410]

>>4743352
a guy talked about that but I forgot who was he. feng zhu maybe? anyway apparently the reason is there aren't many traditional mediums where you can change opacity with pressure(afaik watercolors is one). you shouldn't use opacity tied to pressure so you can improve your skills in the way that they would work both in digital and traditional. people use it because they don't give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.4743411]

>>4743374
are you having a stroke

draw a straigh like for fucks sake

[Anonymous No.4743419]

What is the best course to do fundamentals in digital form? I saw Keys to Drawing mentioned but I wondered if there were any other good texts.

[Anonymous No.4743431]

>>4742223
Blog? This is soul as an aspiring future two toes beg poster myself.

[Anonymous No.4743433]

>>4743419
As much as I hate it, traditional always beats digital for learning fundies

[Anonymous No.4743438]

>>4743419
Ctrl+Paint might be helpful https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library

[Anonymous No.4743448]

>>4743431
Here you go senpai

instagram.com/prokotv

[Anonymous No.4743457]

>>4743448
I get that proko is a meme, but I don't understand is this a bad attempt at a joke or a legit copy paste fuck up.

[Anonymous No.4743499]

>>4743187
go back to construction, u put to much effort that you didn't even draw the eyebrows, ur gonna learn a lot if you keep half assing

[Anonymous No.4743502]

>>4743499
thanks! I didnt *really* know where to start for head structure and shit but hey now I'm set. Thanks again anon!

[Anonymous No.4743511]

>>4743365
im still getting filtered by the 2nd video, do you have any old figures of the spherical forms by chance? thanks

[Anonymous No.4743515]

>>4741955
Im still really new and i have no idea if anything i draw is any good,this was my first attempt at making something weeby,pls help

[Anonymous No.4743520]

>>4743202
>feels awful

why? I only draw with a mechanical pencil and I never felt like that.

[Anonymous No.4743521]

[Anonymous No.4743522]

>>4743511
>>4740786
here you go, i think they are pretty shitty btw

[Anonymous No.4743533]

>>4743499
uhh... your's isn't that good desu

[Anonymous No.4743534]

>>4740786
nice, they dont look too bad. I think im getting to focused on the contours that helps thanks

[Anonymous No.4743538]

>>4743533
i knogw im beg

[Anonymous No.4743553]

>>4743515
read the sticky
>>4743521
looks pretty good anon, i feel like the the left eye of the girl to the far right is a bit fucked tho, like it should be smaller.

[Anonymous No.4743561]

Apparently I'm still beg, damn for the first time I was confident on this piece. Must have gotten cocky because I got a commission.

Got any critiques on it? What stops it from being used as professional videogame or book art, for example? I even zoomed in a lot and re did the lines with care. The thick style is on purpose

[Anonymous No.4743566]

>>4743561
Oh wait I think his angle is wrong... comparing his waist level to the redhead, his legs must be buried deep in the ground

[Anonymous No.4743570]

>>4743561
anatomy, construction, perspective, folds, rendering, proportions, lineart,

[Anonymous No.4743576]

>>4743411
I mean it’s my first time ever using a drawpad

[Anonymous No.4743578]

>>4743570
Welp I'm dead, see you next time I try to regain my honor

[Anonymous No.4743583]

>>4743538
you need to grind more 3D objects and leanr how to represent them and avoiding make them look like 2D flat planes like the neck.Also get that jaw right , it's suppossed the get narrow at the chin but not that linear and the eyes are a bit close each other

in the red drawings both necks are right but if you outline the whole neck down to the base you make it look flat even if the anatomy underneath is right

[Anonymous No.4743602]

>>4743578
don't take it personal, it's just a critic, throw away any pride you have, believe me it's not going to do any good for you as an artist or as a person, at least you can understand that you need to improve and that's a lot more harder than you think and you are not utterly beg i would say mid-beg almost reaching advanced-beg.
i would like to see your improvement, i feel that you have some kind of spark, ganbare anon

[Anonymous No.4743644]

c/c?

[Anonymous No.4743661]

>>4743644
Cool

[Anonymous No.4743666]

>>4743570
my static high confidence just meant i wasnt gaining any experience. i knew there was something wrong it all makes sense now.

[Anonymous No.4743684]

What's more important, SOUL or technique?

[Anonymous No.4743685]

How is this?

[Anonymous No.4743686]

>>4743684
enjoyment

[Anonymous No.4743688]

I guess loomis work and it is just that i'm a neurotic lazy fuck who can't go a month without having a mental breakdown

btw is this improvement

[Anonymous No.4743689]

>>4743685
Raita/10

[Anonymous No.4743691]

>>4743685
it's weird. you drew the hands very well at such a hard angle/pose, but the leg anatomy has basic mistakes. were you following reference a bit too closely maybe?

[Anonymous No.4743695]

>>4742415
Five days in, five days in you say but you're already winning, against me, and I've been drawing seriously for a week, maybe two, but you, your talent is mocking me, what are you doing if not relying on something that's yours only by chance?

>>4743307
>>4743293
>>4743260
How long have you been at this? What's your secret? Is it talent? Of course it is, for a week I've been making gesture drawings like a machine, one after another, if a method was wrong because of my faults I would quickly change it but my pictures go ignored, silence, they lack the fluidity and motion that you managed to capture, have I been wasting my time? Am I evidence that lack of talent is a thing, why, for the past few days I do nothing but think about drawing, day after day, like a machine stuck on the motions.
Not all birds can fly

[Anonymous No.4743697]

>>4743684
soul is a meme...
>>4743686
this

[Anonymous No.4743699]

>>4743685
left tit is kind weird

[Anonymous No.4743705]

>>4743695
which are yours? i'll try to help but i warn you that i'm a begginer

[Anonymous No.4743706]

>>4743644
Actually soulful
Now draw a nice body and you can ascend to /int/ even maybe

[Anonymous No.4743707]

>>4743685
sakimichan/10

[Anonymous No.4743708]

>>4743161
ah, so another attention whore namefag

[Anonymous No.4743711]

>>4743695
improvement doesnt come in steady timely increments. sometimes there are breakthroughs and sometimes there is stagnation.

[Anonymous No.4743714]

>>4743260
better

[Anonymous No.4743720]

>>4743695
maybe they're drawing instead of posting self pity party bullshit blocks of text with a cringe anime image reaction

[Anonymous No.4743725]

>>4743686
>>4743697
How do I acquire enjoyment

[Anonymous No.4743726]

>>4743161
>he also spergs when someone draws better than him
feels like something I would do
why?

[Anonymous No.4743727]

>>4743691
This is the ref. Tried my best

[Anonymous No.4743729]

>>4743695
I feel,ive been drawing for like 2 weeks and im easily worse,dw anon keep at it and youll get their im sure,we all have to do our best and not worry about others,this isnt a competition :3

[Anonymous No.4743735]

[Anonymous No.4743736]

>>4743727
your hands and feet are pretty good, expressive, tridimensional. the thighs and lower legs have a good outline but the lines you traced on them look very bad and diminish the overall tridimensionality of the shape. I say study cylinders

[Anonymous No.4743737]

>>4743725
drawing something good and then admiring the process and results usually does the trick. getting praise from honest peers and professionals also adds to it but not required.

[Anonymous No.4743741]

[Anonymous No.4743748]

[Anonymous No.4743753]

>>4743685
>>4743727
among other things its off balanced. notice how in the ref the person is putting all of the weight on right foot? when that happens it goes to the center of gravity and lines up vertically with the head and body.
the right foot in your drawing is forward and makes it look like the person would fall over.
to prevent this from happening try to block out large portions of the drawing 1st so you can catch something like that straight away.

[Anonymous No.4743761]

>>4743737
You're right, I love the feeling of noticing myself improve at something. But I notice I only reach flow state when I feel like I'll actually be happy with the finished product, instead of just drawing but without any hope that it will look good in the end.

[Anonymous No.4743762]

>>4743729
i don't think 2 weeks is a big amount where you should expect immediate improvement but im also terrified that this "take it easy" mentality might hit hard if i go 1 year+ without noticeable improvement even with study/grindng desu

[Anonymous No.4743767]

>>4743762
don't trip bro, i live by the take it easy lifestyle when it comes to these doodles. Still improve once in a while. I was gonna finally pick up a book on values though, I think shading would be cool next

[Anonymous No.4743769]

>>4743761
in that case maybe your standards are too high? if you were reevaluate your goals and break it up in smaller more manageable but focused chunks it could help.
also not every drawing needs to be a current snapshot that reflects your peak performance. there'll always be hit or miss moments.

[Anonymous No.4743781]

wtf is flow state

[Anonymous No.4743793]

>>4743781
Being in the zone. Like when you are completely and entirely focused on the task at hand with zero distractions or unrelated thoughts. It's hard to describe but if you've felt it you know

[Anonymous No.4743794]

>>4743781
when you feel like doing something productive for longer than 10 minutes

[Anonymous No.4743802]

>>4741962

[Anonymous No.4743811]

>>4743793
>>4743794
Ah yes and then your gf walks in and complains that the dog got into the trash again and ruins all of that, yes i know it well

[Anonymous No.4743825]

>>4743811
>gf
lmao

[Anonymous No.4743826]

How do I stop feeling overwhelmed by the sheer amount of things I'm required to learn

[Anonymous No.4743832]

.

[Anonymous No.4743834]

.

[Anonymous No.4743836]

.

[Anonymous No.4743838]

>>4743685
I'd smash.

[Anonymous No.4743841]

yo why does this look weird? I thought I did shadows too dark last time but know they kinda merge with the plane in shadow but in the demos the shadows are even lighter, is it because my background is white? I'm kinda ignoring the light arrow but I am trying to be consistent

[Anonymous No.4743843]

>>4743793
>tfw haven't felt this way in like 10 years

[Anonymous No.4743844]

do y'all actually use construction lines and boxes and shit?

just draw bro

[Anonymous No.4743854]

>>4743735
Ref?

[Anonymous No.4743870]

>>4743841
Post the reference. The hourglass looks like it's been cut in half vertically due to how sharp the edge is between the light and shadow size, and due to how flat the shadows are.

[Anonymous No.4743873]

[Anonymous No.4743876]

>>4743844
either way works

[Anonymous No.4743880]

>>4743873
sticky

[Anonymous No.4743881]

>>4743873
I can't redline, but a lot of places, honestly. Study the anatomy of the individual facial features in regards to how you want to draw them. Like, what do you want to draw? Realism? Anime?
Your face doesn't even face the way the head does, or in the same angle. Unironically go check out the different methods for constructing heads and see what works best for you.

[Anonymous No.4743885]

>>4743881
I know the eyes are shitty, I don't know how to put features on the face

[Anonymous No.4743886]

>>4743836
i love the lineart

[Anonymous No.4743887]

>>4743885
Well you recognized that that's a shortcoming and something you don't know, so you can go look up how to draw faces, how to draw heads for example. Draw a lot from reference too.

[Anonymous No.4743893]

>>4743870
The lighting is from imagination but this is the image with no rendering

[Anonymous No.4743894]

>>4742087
>20-30min gouache thumbnails
Thats the mistake. Any thumbnail shouldn't be above 15 minutes

[Anonymous No.4743901]

>>4743893
Then yes, the edge between light and shadow is way too sharp, since rounded objects have a softer transition. And your shadow is way too flat.

[Anonymous No.4743918]

>>4743854
nah, imagination

[Anonymous No.4743920]

>>4743844
no

[Anonymous No.4743924]

anyone wanna redline again??

im kidding, but progress!

[Anonymous No.4743930]

>>4743924
i would if i wasnt working on my own drawing already

[Anonymous No.4743939]

what do you guys think

[Anonymous No.4743940]

>>4743939
i think it looks unfinished

[Anonymous No.4743942]

>>4743940
I don't know how to finish

[Anonymous No.4743949]

btw this is my progress from the very first day i started drawing kinda seriously to today
no I did not draw everyday

[Anonymous No.4743954]

>>4743949
Soul vs souless

[Anonymous No.4743956]

>>4743942
finish with a special move

[Anonymous No.4743962]

>>4743949
your nose drawing got better but mouth drawing got worse

[Anonymous No.4743964]

>>4743939
>>4743949
I think your drawing has a very serious uncanny valley effect in that you have giant cartoon eyes which still kinda look like they're trying to be realistic coupled with a nose that's trying to be realistic too. I actually think your first drawing is better because it knows that it's a cartoon.

[Anonymous No.4743966]

>>4743964
I think it is because I'm not 100% symbol drawing but still not out of it fully

[Anonymous No.4743968]

>>4743949
>>4743964
giant cartoon eyes with that type of nose is pretty meta though

[Anonymous No.4743971]

>>4743966
Don't listen to him he doesn't know what he's talking about, it's that the eyes are too big and the skull is too small , especially the jaw which is probably why you had mouth trouble. Work on your proportions

[Anonymous No.4743974]

>it knows it's a cartoon
>the drawing knows it's a cartoon

[Anonymous No.4743975]

>>4743974
so soulful it aknowledge its existence

[Anonymous No.4743977]

>>4743968
If he were going for an anime style then no it isn't.

[Anonymous No.4743994]

>>4743977
of course i wasnt talking about chinese cartoons you silly anon! have you been living under a rock?

[Anonymous No.4743996]

>>4743561
The faces all look retarded. The car is parked right on top of the horizon. Oh, and the text is irregular, which is important if you want to look professional.
This is not an exhaustive list.
>I even zoomed in a lot and re did the lines with care.
A lot of them still look rough. Short, overlapping segments instead of long, controlled curves.
I like the colors though. The overall composition isn't bad either.

[Anonymous No.4744002]

>>4743684
Ideally you'd have both.

[Anonymous No.4744005]

>>4743802
A bit off balance. The leg she's standing on is too far to the right. Also the face is higher and at a different angle. She isn't getting a good sight picture like that. The whole head looks a bit odd as a result.

[Anonymous No.4744010]

>>4743939
Eyes different shapes.

[Anonymous No.4744019]

FUNNY HOW THAT ANON MAKING OH SO NICE ADVICE AND SOURCES STOPPED REPLYING TO ME HUH
>OHHH NICE ANON I CAN FEEL THE FORM VILPPUSMILING.PNG
BULLSHIT YOU WANTED TO MOCK MY SHITTY FIGURE DRAWINGS
>>4743538
Let me guess youve been drawing for a week huh?
>>4743729
That's bullshit and you know it, it is a competition why are some better? Others worse
>>4743939
How long have you been drawing? Let me guess, days, do you want to mock me too?
>>4743924
What about you? >>4743873
Or you?
>>4743711
Sounds like bullshit, you must have talent and be special, why why with 2 weeks of drawing why was I defeated by SOMEONE 5 DAYS IN?
>>4743720
Fuck you, you don't know me so stop trying to apply your silly worldview to me,I've been drawing until today that is
>>4743705
What? Want to mock me with your talent? Are you one of those I replied to? Posted yesterday as ZERO OF THE WORLD, that's my grotesque drawings

[Anonymous No.4744022]

>>4744019
Are you okay anon?

[Anonymous No.4744025]

new thread: >>4744023
new thread: >>4744023
new thread: >>4744023

[Anonymous No.4744798]

>>4743248
arms way too long

[Anonymous No.4744800]

>>4743251
I think it is about that drawing what you see thing

[Anonymous No.4744804]

>>4743277
jazza? is that you?

[Anonymous No.4744813]

>>4743303
you can see on vent that some people want to draw but only if they draw well, I guess that is where this come from

[Anonymous No.4744818]

>>4743346
what are you trying to do?
are you trying to fix your mistakes? or just drawing?

[Anonymous No.4744838]

>>4743374
I wish I had find loomis when I still was on school so I could make fun of people with my drawings.

[Anonymous No.4744848]

>>4743515
soulful, try the sticky

[Anonymous No.4744855]

>>4743521
you totally fucked up the face of the girl on the right. the others are fine tho.

[Anonymous No.4744867]

>>4743561
I like the expression and composition, but I agree with the other anons.

[Anonymous No.4744874]

>>4743684

technique IS soul

[Anonymous No.4744881]

>>4743826
learn one thing at the time.

I always try to improve my worst point. so I make the bigger leap possible.

[Anonymous No.4744888]

>>4743836
the ears aren't symmetric,
the eyes are too close to the eyebrows
the eyebrows are too forward
the style is interesting.

[Anonymous No.4744940]

>>4743939
I would suggest you to copy a art style. Do some "master studies"

[Anonymous No.4745067]

Weird oil underpainting

[Anonymous No.4745452]

>>4743826
One step at a time and don’t stop moving forward. It’s like driving through a desert, you can’t see your destination, and it looks long, grueling and dismal, but if you keep going, eventually you’ll make it to town.

[Anonymous No.4746286]

>>4741968
yes