Learning to draw as a neurotic person

[Anonymous No.4730128]

As a neurotic person dealing with insecurities, difficult experiences, anxiety and so on, do you have any tips as to how I should fix myself to be able to draw? I really like drawing but I just can't function as a human being which prevents me from becoming a full fledged artist. I think it's a problem common for a lot of people with artistic aspirations but I might be wrong

[Anonymous No.4730130]

>>4730128
>neurotic
And yet you made a whole thread for yourself

[Anonymous No.4730139]

You learn to draw by drawing.

[Anonymous No.4730144]

>>4730130
yea that's pretty neurotic

[Anonymous No.4730154]

>>4730128
Just fucking draw. There is no need to over-complicate anything.

[Anonymous No.4730155]

Sorry OP, most scientists agree; "neurotic" people cannot draw.

[Anonymous No.4730174]

>>4730128
Stop drinking s oy tranny.

[Anonymous No.4730177]

>>4730128
>learning to draw gives me anxiety
this zoomers man...

[Anonymous No.4730197]

replace neurotic with normal

[Anonymous No.4730766]

>>4730128
Mental illness is not real

[Anonymous No.4730773]

>>4730766
That's right. It's all in your head.

[Anonymous No.4730777]

>>4730773
You get deported last.

[Anonymous No.4730797]

>>4730128
this screams zoomer addicted to internet

[Anonymous No.4730804]

Anon, great artist like van gogh, toulouse lautrec and munch were neurotics. This shouldn't stop you

[Anonymous No.4730815]

>>4730804
>great artist like van gogh
LMAO

[Anonymous No.4730818]

>>4730815
pyw

[Anonymous No.4730837]

Is there such thing as artist without neurosis tho?
Sorry anon but your mental issues ain't gonna do as an excuse for no gains

[Anonymous No.4730841]

>>4730837
bob ross

[Anonymous No.4730856]

>>4730174
Is onions a censored word or something?

[Anonymous No.4730858]

>>4730856
Holy kek it is, the absolute state of s oy
>>4730841
He was a based painter desu

[Anonymous No.4730896]

>>4730128
Play doodleordie with a ghost profile. You get likes for good art, but you also have this cloak of anonymity so you don't have worry about being perfect consistenly.

[Anonymous No.4730905]

>>4730128
>neurotic
This is the worst new meme here.

[Anonymous No.4730925]

>>4730128
I'm literally a traumatized autistic person with adhd and I'm able to draw just fine.

But I remember when I thought I'm just a "neurotic" piece of shit who's unable to keep drawing with or without antidepressants, unable to work or go to school, so there's no hope. So, yeah. I'm not telling you to take an online test but take an online test and see if advice for people with executive function disorder help you. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.4730930]

>>4730128
you know what OP?
fuck you
i have anxiety and other mental issues as well, you're not special
i'm using my symptoms and lack of social prowess to my advantage by self-isolating(pre-covid) and creating the best manga ever
it will be shit, but it will be awesome because its shit i made whether anyone reads it or not, i want to draw because i want to see this story done, fuck what anyone else has to say about it
despite my crippling anxiety i still sought professional feedback on my studies so i could strengthen my skills and achieve my art goals

tl;dr - you're just a fag, pick up your fucking pencil and draw you bitch

[Anonymous No.4730932]

>>4730128
You will never make it. Sharing for critique is a critical process of improving, and you will stall and limit yourself for it. Either take some meds to take the edge off or move on.

[Anonymous No.4731047]

>>4730154
>>4730155
>>4730177
>>4730197
>>4730766
>>4730797
>>4730905
>>4730925
>>4730930
>>4730932

I understand why all of you would downplay neuroticism or even make a claim that it doesn't exist. But what is this state where you feel no desire to do anything, feel unwanted and stupid, trapped in a limbo of shitty choices made by and for you, your heart beating fast all the time, feeling like you have a fever, stressed out that you have to go to sleep and wake up tomorrow to the same grim reality. Constant flashes, reminders of things that happened and I can't change anymore. There are no people to talk to, just quiet suffering in solitude.

Objectively speaking this is not the state where you can practice art and it's just another pain where I can't even do things that could make me feel better because of how bad my well-being is. But I still don't want to give up on myself, hence I'm asking. Maybe I should die if it's all that bad, I can't really tell, I don't want to die but maybe sometimes things are just too bad. I don't know

[Anonymous No.4731080]

>>4730128

Complex PTSD?

Meditation
Professional psychotherapy
Books
Psychadelics (do tons of research and be safe)

[Anonymous No.4731097]

>>4731047

In case you are op, i replied to you here:
>>4731080

..before i even read what you wrote in this post. But now that i read what you have wrote, i HIGHLY recommend you (besides what i wrote in previous post) these books: "the power or now (tolle)", "complex PTSD from surviving to thriving" and"body keeps the score".

In case you have ANY sort of trauma (which many of people have without even realizing), the last rwo books might be very, very triggering.

So again:
The books i mentioned you, psychadelics (do tons of research before trying) for therapy, professional psychotherapy, meditation.

Forget about art until you make some progress on deeper levels.

[Anonymous No.4731121]

>>4731047
You're not neurotic, you're just not neurotypical. Look into autism spectrum and adhd and stop being such a snowflake about it. There's lots of people who get diagnosed late in their twenties and their whole lives change because they can forgive themselves and understand the hurt.

[Anonymous No.4731124]

>>4731121
I am not autistic nor with ADHD, I just live a garbage life, if I feel good, I can function, the problem is I feel bad 99% of the time.

[Anonymous No.4731129]

>>4731124

Why THE FUCK are you even replying to those people who try to put you down?

[Anonymous No.4731134]

>>4731129

And why the fuck are you even trying to PROVE them that you have XY condition?

[Anonymous No.4731136]

I feel the same. My lack of skill adds to my anxiety and I have aphantasia which makes creating art much more difficult.

[Anonymous No.4731139]

>>4731136

What us behind that anxiety?
Not what is triggering it, but what is it's essence? Where and when did that fear start to form?

[Anonymous No.4731147]

>>4730128
A lot of great artists were neurotic.
The ones that become great are the ones that besides, obviously, having the most talent and originality, learn the subtle art of not giving a fuck about others.
This is obviously true well beyond the world of art.

[Anonymous No.4731152]

>>4731147

>learn the subtle art of not giving a fuck about others

Good advice. Only problem is that it is easier to say than do.
If one think learning anatomy, perspective, composition.. from all those 300 pdf files on hdd is hard, try to learn what you are suggesting.

I guarantee you that huge amount of people on this board would like to have "not giving a fuck about others" attitude much more than art skills.

In the end of the day, no matter how skilled they are, they are still preocopied with what others think about them and self-criticism.

[Anonymous No.4731202]

>>4731129
If he was capable of making good life choices, he'd probably be consulting a professional instead of taking his mental health issues to /ic/. Just roll with it.

[Anonymous No.4731208]

>>4731202

Yeah you got the point..
It's probably total waste of time trying to be helpful on this board.

[Anonymous No.4731228]

>>4731202
I found that "normal" people can give much better guidance because there is some shared experience, even if it's just one guy it's still better than talking to someone who doesn't care at all and doesn't have to be truly helpful

[Anonymous No.4731252]

>>4731228

"Normal people" comparing to professional psychotherapists?>>4731228