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/TRAD/ Traditional General Anonymous Thu Jul 16 15:18:14 2020 No.4728654 [Reply] [Original]

Post oil paintings, drawings, pastels, sculptures, or anything done in traditional media THAT YOU HAVE MADE for critique

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 15:18:34 2020 No.4728655 File: 272 KB, 994x1321, library.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4728654 did paintings of the library today

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 15:19:06 2020 No.4728657 File: 264 KB, 1440x1082, 57.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4728655 and some nudes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 15:21:40 2020 No.4728665 File: 244 KB, 1035x1297, 66.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4728657 this one came out pretty cool too

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 15:22:20 2020 No.4728667 File: 323 KB, 1135x1412, eve.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4728665 and I painted this piece of shit, i don't even know what it is it was supposed to be Eve in the Garden i think?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 15:59:25 2020 No.4728747 Fuck this thread

Anonymous Thu Jul 16 19:15:06 2020 No.4729270
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I need a bit of advice with my painting. I am trying to depict a chrome-like surface, but something just doesn't sit right with me. Perhaps because the horizon is level with it's reflection?

Anonymous Thu Jul 16 19:18:05 2020 No.4729277
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>>4729270
I think you need to imply more opaqueness, even if the surface is reflective. The reflection should still be a little darker maybe. Is this picture helpful?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 19:19:09 2020 No.4729279 >>4729270 It looks nice though

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 19:48:40 2020 No.4729347 >>4729277 I agree completely, if it weren't for the shadow it'd be mistaken for glass. Having the area in front illuminated would sell the opacity, but im afraid of disrupting the balance of the whole composition

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 02:25:18 2020 No.4730056 >>4730051 there are some things that could be changed or worked a little bit more but overall it is done. I kind of failed at the reflections. Couldn't mix the right color so i went for the one you see. Overall a fun piece though and a lot of work

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:21:15 2020 No.4730444 >>4729270 Make it in blender for reference

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:31:14 2020 No.4730455 >>4729270 Maybe you should try setting up a still life with a reflective object and paint it from life. That way you can actually see what gives a reflective surface it's characteristic look.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:32:00 2020 No.4730456 >>4729270 There should be a subtle gradient along that white edge about the same width as the white itself. Making the red in the reflection not line up with the horizon would help composition.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:32:29 2020 No.4730458 File: 150 KB, 1200x1600, firstever.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4728654 Drew a portrait for the first time Before i only practiced parts of the face with soft pastel. CRITIQUE

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:33:04 2020 No.4730461 >>4730458 Finish it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:36:28 2020 No.4730467 >>4730051 Central figure needs some work, and the structure closest to the centre on the left looks like it’s on a different plane from the rest of the piece.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:38:16 2020 No.4730470 >>4730458 -Finish it -You’re using it like a pencil. Blend.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:40:36 2020 No.4730474 >>4730461 >>4730470 You guys think its worth finishing? Also im using an HB mechanical pencil

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:44:37 2020 No.4730477 >>4730474 With a little bit tidier crosshatching it could be really nice. Finish it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:44:38 2020 No.4730478 >>4728654 >>4728655 Your perspective isn't precise enough. Your work overall could use a lot more drawing practice

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:46:45 2020 No.4730480 >>4730474 I think you should finish it so we can make a better assessment. And it's always good to finish pieces and not give up too soon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:48:00 2020 No.4730483 >>4728667 All of your attention went to the torso and face. Save some energy for limbs and necks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:50:39 2020 No.4730484 File: 37 KB, 320x240, IMG_5960.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Catskills, NY acrylic

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:51:32 2020 No.4730485 >>4730483 i ended up working the face the most because the reference was just her torso, and i kind of worked up and down the figure. I need to get back to drawing

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 08:52:49 2020 No.4730486 >>4730484 The composition needs a lot of work, there’s no path for the eye to follow here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 09:06:05 2020 No.4730508 >>4728665 Are you going for something semi realistic? Over all it’s nice but the left breast looks like it belongs in a hentai. If you’re going for that style it’s fine but if not, the nipple to way too rubbery.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 09:08:02 2020 No.4730510 File: 174 KB, 516x693, fin2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4730508 i paint that girl a lot, she has interesting breasts, this was the reference, apologies for the coom

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 09:15:21 2020 No.4730517 >>4730510 Uhm sauce?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 09:16:59 2020 No.4730519 >>4730458 More loomis.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 09:18:40 2020 No.4730522 >>4730510 I was mistaken. Dang.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 09:21:41 2020 No.4730530 >>4730510 I once knew a girl with this type of breasts, she took photos of her naked for photography class in college, still not sure if brave or thot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 09:34:59 2020 No.4730555 >>4730530 >still not sure if brave or thot. probably just desperate for good grades with no artistic ability

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 09:36:18 2020 No.4730561 >>4730517 >>4730522 u/perky-and-pink on reddit her paintings sell like crazy, I've sold 6 paintings of her. I give her 5% of the sales but it's worth af

Anonymous Fri Jul 17 09:40:18 2020 No.4730568

>>4730477
>>4730480
I dont want to do crosshatching i want it to be more natural. Also i dont wanna blend with fingers because it might end up looking like a deviantart OC. Imma have to learn natural blending with a mech pen. Thanks brothers.
>>4730519
Ok since you posted it in this thread too ill admit i should.

Anonymous Fri Jul 17 10:12:15 2020 No.4730634
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>>4730510
>u/perky-and-pink on reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/SimpleNudes/comments/hrd7qk/just_noticed_that_more_people_are_posting_to_this/

WTF is that in the bath with her in this photo?????????????

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 10:13:17 2020 No.4730637 >>4730510 I'm going to paint that too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 10:20:36 2020 No.4730647 >>4730637 >>4730634 sign up for her onlyfans, give her money she's cool

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 10:21:44 2020 No.4730650 >>4730634 Someone's dead foot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 10:24:24 2020 No.4730653 >>4730647 ok, perky-and-pink

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 10:25:32 2020 No.4730654 >>4730653 god i wish

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 10:26:28 2020 No.4730658 File: 268 KB, 1026x1350, 53.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4730654 anyways here's some trees >>4730484 looks cool but bigger filesize please

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 10:33:02 2020 No.4730669 >>4730658 what's your reasoning for leaving each of your paintings so unfinished? Aside from the brushstrokes, that's a genuinely cool piece.

Anonymous Fri Jul 17 10:38:05 2020 No.4730677

>>4730669
they're not sold on commission, any more work to them wouldn't raise the price any higher so it's kind of pointless. Even if it did raise the price my customers don't buy above the $150 price range for the most part. Better to have quantity than quality right now, especially in quarantine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 10:47:41 2020 No.4730692 >>4730677 I think you could raise the price on your paintings if you put more time into them and kept innovating. Many fine-art pieces today still sell for thousands of dollars.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 11:29:37 2020 No.4730752 File: 297 KB, 1066x1417, 62.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4730692 maybe, i might raise by 7-8% today

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 12:09:18 2020 No.4730829 >>4730658 Have to admit this looks really nice. The section where you can see some of the sky trough the tree is strange though. It doesn't match the style of the rest of the painting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 12:14:01 2020 No.4730836 Do you post your work anywhere on social media? I'm not really into that but have recently started a Twitter account. Now I struggle to find good non digital art. Did I just fail to find what I am looking for or should I use another platform?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 12:21:51 2020 No.4730851 File: 1.29 MB, 818x1006, fish sir.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4730752 I like really small things in paintings. For instance. I really like the ring finger on the left hand. The way shadow falls onto it. Looks great! Fish dude here

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 12:53:07 2020 No.4730916 >>4730654 Thought you hated white wimmin. >>4730647 Yeah, no thanks, I don't support prozzies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 13:26:59 2020 No.4730994 File: 378 KB, 1536x2048, 28421B4A-3AC9-4F00-A898-C982A5C3A452.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Drew my gf’s bike today

Anonymous Fri Jul 17 13:45:07 2020 No.4731039

>>4730467
yeah, both of those were things i was already thinking too bad i can't correct them when working with permanent media. The giant's lower body is kind of anatomically correct and the hands don't look correct either. I used a purple that was way too opaque for that structure but tried to water it down on the paper as much as I could. The reflections also don't look good but would be really hard to do for this sort of thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 23:22:01 2020 No.4732044 >>4730444 what is this blender you speak of?? >different poster

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 05:57:46 2020 No.4732431 Did this with oil pastels. How can I improve?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 06:04:59 2020 No.4732439 File: 972 KB, 4032x3024, IMG_20200718_115232322.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4732431

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 07:06:04 2020 No.4732531 >>4732439 Subtler shine, it’s coming across as pretty gooey right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 07:32:53 2020 No.4732586 File: 1.64 MB, 1752x3120, z_bedlam1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Been a while.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 10:46:03 2020 No.4732878 File: 940 KB, 3024x4032, IMG_20200718_163735387.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4732531 Thanks. I want it to be colourful but tried to blent it more in this one. Better?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 12:51:58 2020 No.4733123 File: 315 KB, 1018x1357, park.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] painted at the park again

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 13:29:01 2020 No.4733174 >>4733123 I'm digging the path, a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 13:41:14 2020 No.4733186 >>4733123 Your nature things are nice. So why do you keep painting nudes? Do you actually like it or is it just to sell something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 13:45:48 2020 No.4733194 >>4733123 I really like everything in the bottom half, bar the fountain feature. Really beautiful, dude.

Anonymous Sat Jul 18 13:55:58 2020 No.4733208

>>4733186
>Do you actually like it or is it just to sell something?
I sell so many, it's easy to lose sight of doing other things. They aren't big sales usually, but when people buy three of them at a time for $100-$150 each it's hard not to feel like that's all I should be painting.

The one saving grace is that nudes done at figure drawing sessions tend to sell as well, but I'm not doing many of those lately :(

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 14:29:55 2020 No.4733258 >>4733208 >but I'm not doing many of those lately Same here, used to draw at least once a month at a small art studio but haven't been there since march. I liked it a lot, was a great way to get better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 15:03:51 2020 No.4733318 >>4733123 Did anyone talk to you at the park? I haven't painted o/s for so long because of that, I 'm thinking of painting Wednesday when I go to collect some pictures from an auction house.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 15:14:31 2020 No.4733335 >>4733318 I haven’t had any problems I’m not particularly happy with seeing so many boomers walking around but you should be fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 15:17:24 2020 No.4733341 >>4733335 boomers not showing you the love, bri

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 15:19:42 2020 No.4733346 >>4733341 Boomers need to stay the fuck home, they’re my customers I can’t have them die

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 15:20:43 2020 No.4733348 >>4733346 gotta garnish those poker room dens with a little spice

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 15:20:58 2020 No.4733349 >>4733335 WTF, boomers are alright. Screaming kids in parks are much worse. And peoples dogs always stop snuffling around in my bags so I have painting, and lose the flow. That reminds me, to consider getting headphones to wear.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 15:27:41 2020 No.4733355 >>4730752 this style is very effective, just introduce more facial expressions and moods

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 15:29:33 2020 No.4733356 >>4730752 what influence am I seeing with this piece?

Anonymous Sat Jul 18 20:40:27 2020 No.4733918

I couldn't find a supplies general but figured someone here might know. Why the fuck are all of the Copic refill inks sold out EVERYWHERE? I saw that they recently changed the refill ink type (which is annoying, I enjoyed knowing I'd basically only ever need to buy the various ink once for the rest of my life per color) but I haven't been able to find the old or the new refills anywhere. What the hell? Do I just buy new markers in the meantime? Seems like a waste.

Anonymous Sun Jul 19 05:38:36 2020 No.4734554

>>4733918
I'm not big into markers anymore, but I heard there was a delay with getting the new refills into stores because of the pandemic. You could buy refills or alcohol inks from another brand in the meantime, but it might be hard to get close color matches, especially for the lighter shades.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 19 05:44:34 2020 No.4734573 >>4732878 Much better on many levels. Your edges could be a bit smoother, might be a good idea to outline in a pastel pencil of the same color if you have access to them. Keep up the good work

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 19 07:23:43 2020 No.4734734 File: 2.70 MB, 2448x3264, IMG_20200719_122154.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How the fuck do I make the second eye

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 19 07:28:15 2020 No.4734740 File: 392 KB, 1000x1333, 1595157823048.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How the FUCK do i make the second eye?

Anonymous Sun Jul 19 07:45:12 2020 No.4734772

>>4734740
Carve out everything around the eye first, the last thing you actually carve is the eyeball and you don’t so much carve it as imply it by subtracting the clay enough that it looks like there’s an eye. Keep adding clay and carving it out until it looks right

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 19 12:21:18 2020 No.4735187 >>4734573 Thanks again. Can you recommend anything? The oil pastels are also very cheap and I only have a few colours, so I might buy more of those too as they are fun to draw with.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 19 21:13:35 2020 No.4736232 >>4734554 Ugh, that makes total sense so I can't be too upset. I guess now is a great time to try other brands.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 19 23:00:56 2020 No.4736419 >>4734740 A lot of miniaturists and sculptors I watch use small beads to serve as the base for the eye. Then place the muscle, fat and the lid of the eye around it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 20 13:48:58 2020 No.4737809 >>4734740 The same way you made the first one

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 20 13:53:39 2020 No.4737819 >>4737809 K

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 20 20:45:11 2020 No.4738669 >>4735187 Faber Castell Pitt pastels are ok and not super expensive

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 03:27:32 2020 No.4739172 File: 887 KB, 2048x1536, 33ADE945-29C7-44FF-8D35-CA5F478D235C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Painted with water soulable pencils. Its my first painting in many years, I made it in the clinic for alcohol withdrawal. Do you like it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 03:29:32 2020 No.4739174 >>4733123 I really love this one

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 03:31:26 2020 No.4739175 >>4738669 Pitt pastels are really good actually but this anon is using oil pastels. They are different kinds of media and I don't think these specific two can be succesfully mixed on the same surface.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 03:33:19 2020 No.4739179 >>4739172 You did well for a novice, maybe keep doing art instead of booze, eh? It's a positive outlet and you seem to have some natural aptitude for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 03:40:39 2020 No.4739183 >>4739172 Looks good, but I'm not sure what you meant by painting with water soulable pencils.. or maybe go back do drinking if it's fake

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 04:02:11 2020 No.4739209 >>4739179 Thanks anon. I think painting will definetly help me with my new life. It makes me calm and gives me a new purpose. I appreciate your advice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 04:21:01 2020 No.4739220 Can someone drop the links to the watercolor resources?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 04:30:35 2020 No.4739230 File: 580 KB, 2048x2046, A20E8BBE-28BB-452E-9BF7-66626F631AF9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some still life

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 04:52:56 2020 No.4739255 >>4739172 That is really nice, anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 04:58:51 2020 No.4739270 >>4739175 Should I buy the Faber Castell Polychromos then?

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 05:25:01 2020 No.4739298

>>4739270

Polychromos are regular coloured pencils, those are not oil pastels either but are more likely to stay on a surface of oil pastels than soft pastels like the pitt pastels. I dunno man, if i were you i would ditch the oil pastels entirely, they never look good any way, and go for either of those other two mediums. The crux of a medium is its binder. oil pastels are super waxy and fatty so you can't really mix them with other media with a different binder and expect it to look good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 05:28:18 2020 No.4739305 >>4739230 very nice. My only gripe would be that more edge variation (on the vegetables especially) could really push it beyond whst it currently is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 05:43:37 2020 No.4739315 File: 2.17 MB, 4032x3024, CE6527C2-6146-48CF-9A35-B696D99FEB92.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4728654 HOW do i make a soft edge in watercolor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 06:10:12 2020 No.4739334 >>4739298 Oil pastels have their weaknesses and strengths like any medium. Color wise they’re amazing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 06:11:25 2020 No.4739335 >>4739315 Water.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 06:49:27 2020 No.4739381 >>4739334 If you say so. I've never seen an oil pastel work that doesn't scream 'amateur'.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 06:57:11 2020 No.4739388 >>4739335 True, that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 07:02:27 2020 No.4739396 >>4739388 I mean like a transition. I’m assuming it’s just individual strokes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 07:36:29 2020 No.4739444 >>4739396 Transition to what, another colour? Wet the paper before you put the colour down, then everything will be soft where it is wet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 09:24:43 2020 No.4739584 >>4739396 It's called 'washes'.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 10:02:30 2020 No.4739656
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>>4735187
try acrylic paint, or a pastel ground. a pink or raw umber. tone the paper with a wash of colour to eliminate the white specks, do your pastel art over it, and also buy a blender stump.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 12:25:27 2020 No.4739898 >>4739669 Nope, can't make it out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 13:06:01 2020 No.4739978 File: 3.05 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_20200721_130401.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Overall wasn't thrilled how this one turned out but I think I might be getting better with watercolor -bones

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 13:07:38 2020 No.4739985 File: 3.22 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_20200721_130702.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4739978 Light was messed up in the last one oops

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 13:39:25 2020 No.4740069 >>4733356 Picasso probs

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 15:48:42 2020 No.4740352 File: 271 KB, 965x1317, 51.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i plan on doing some more nudes but they're getting very boring

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 15:56:02 2020 No.4740371 >>4728654 Just want to say that I always lurk here and appreciate your work

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 16:22:28 2020 No.4740427 If I just want to draw landscapes, any books to recommend? I get the impression that the usual ones (Loomis, Brigman, etc) are mostly for figure drawing.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 16:24:11 2020 No.4740434

>>4740427
any book about drawing, or light and shadow should work.

Landscape painting is all drawing and depicting forms and shapes with light and shadow. The colors end up being mostly arbitrary. If you can mix values you can mix colors for a landscape.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 16:36:13 2020 No.4740459 >>4740352 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdPNnwZdiUU&feature=youtu.be here's a timelapse of this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 16:37:33 2020 No.4740463 >>4740434 Which medium (watercolor/oil/acrylic) to start with for /beg/ painter?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 16:44:09 2020 No.4740488 >>4740463 acrylics are easy to handle but difficult to mix and get the color you want. also no edge work oils are a bit more complicated to handle and expensive, but you can handle color mixing and edges the best watercolor is hard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 16:54:02 2020 No.4740510 >>4740463 Most artists die still being shit at watercolor

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:04:14 2020 No.4740528 >>4740488 >>4740510 Why watercolor is harder compared to the other two? I'll start with acrylic then.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:19:19 2020 No.4740564
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>>4740528
Watercolour looks friendly, and look like it will be cheap.
The you find out that mistakes can't be fixed, the paper is expensive, mounting a finished piece of work is expensive, the re-sale of a work is less than oil or acrylic, decent brushes are more expensive than, and last less than, an angel's breath.
Planning a watercolour, and then controlling the washes while they dry, takes a decent amount of effort and self control, most people lack any ability to do this. Even lasters of oil such as Edward Seago, would never let anyone watch him paint a watercolour for fear of being seen to mess it up.
DON'T buy a million different colours in oil or acrylic.
You can paint a lot of things with just titanium white, burnt sienna and ultramarine blue. Use those for a few weeks, see it you like it. If you chose acrylic you will only need to add brushes and canvases, as you can wash your brushes out in water, but do NOT let your brushes EVER dry out in acrylic, let them stand in the jam jar of water while not in use. Rinse with a bar of soap when finished and lay flat. Buy Winsor & Newton range for everything and you're good to go.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:21:08 2020 No.4740569 >>4740564 Sorry for spelling mistakes, didn't have glasses on and in middle of painting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:53:41 2020 No.4740683 >>4740564 Thanks for the advice. Shouldn't I add a yellow paint to get the primary colors besides the ones you mentioned?

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:35:24 2020 No.4740810

>>4739656
Turns out if your oil pastels are less old or cheap they work just fine for my purposes. The Polychromos also kind of work if only for the edges. Also having more than one red, yellow, and orange is nice. If I plan to draw something more serious though, I will come back to your suggestion.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:37:56 2020 No.4740821

>>4740564
>The you find out that mistakes can't be fixed, the paper is expensive, mounting a finished piece of work is expensive, the re-sale of a work is less than oil or acrylic, decent brushes are more expensive than, and last less than, an angel's breath.
kek
but watercolor is addictive. especially if you like to plan your paintings, solve puzzles, and have money to drop on good paper. you can get competent at it if you choose it as your first medium (mastery is a different beast.) i noticed that the people who complain most about watercolors generally started wtih oils which are easy-mode because it takes forever to dry and there's very little spontaneity in how it behaves. OTOH acrylics dry extremely quick, shifts color, and are difficult to use if you don't think fast enough. watercolors are somewhere in the middle.
>>4740683
>>4740528
i'd suggest you start with watercolor if you really want. a basic set of 5 paints will last you a while, but if you can't afford paper as a regular expense ($20-100 usd/ monthly, depending on how frequently you paint), go with oils first. don't bother with acrylics until you have a good understanding of color theory and can mix colors well.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 21:56:42 2020 No.4741198
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>>4740821
not the guy you were talking to, but I still can't comfortably use the hot pressed Arches pad. I have 3 pads kicking around, but the paper feels so different that the regular Canson watercolor paper I default to. I even started doing light washes on 80lb inking paper. Something about how absorbent the arches is throws me off. I've been trying to do a couple sketches a day in it.

Anyhow, here's a little dude I painted as part of something I send people monthly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:24:40 2020 No.4741246 How do I photograph watercolor without it looking washed out?

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 23:09:10 2020 No.4741329

>>4741198
yeah, you're feeling the difference between cotton and wood pulp. i don't like wood-based watercolor paper. i started out with strathmore and fabriano's budget lines which are made with that stuff and (in my ignorance at the time) thought fabriano and strathmore were terrible brands because i couldn't make the paint do what i wanted on them. i didn't realize there was a difference until read up on materials and bought a pad of arches cold press. cotton-based paper allows you to do manipulate edges and do a lot of techniques with layering, lifting, and blending. i'd say wood-based papers are best for direct painting. your technique reminds me of KJGs watercolors, you definitely shouldn't feel the need to splurge on cotton paper if you don't build up your paintings.

>>4741246
Low budget?: A flat surface, good camera (phone ok), and a lamp with a good broad spectrum bulb (CREE daylight 100w equivalent, or similar bulb with a high CRI rating. makes retouching easier) + photoshop
Best results: just get a scanner. A Canon Lide 300 or better should be around $50-70. larger pieces can be scanned in sections and stitched together automatically in photoshop with photomerge

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 23:27:28 2020 No.4741349 File: 198 KB, 663x1669, entrails.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4741329 a sketch of mine, forgot to attach

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:46:09 2020 No.4741860 >>4741349 It’s confusing to look at, I can’t tell where to look.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:51:52 2020 No.4741871 >>4741503 >>4741505 >>4741506 These are technically good but a bit boring. The last one with the stormy sky is the only one that makes me feel anything.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 11:36:26 2020 No.4742291
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>>4730752
this painting has only been listed for 4 days and it's already drawn a crazy amount of attention to my ebay store. Sometimes the algorithm is very friendly. I ended up raising some of the prices for newer paintings

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 11:48:32 2020 No.4742315 >>4742291 Are you able to make a living off of just selling paintings, or do you supplement that with a day job

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:10:24 2020 No.4742363

>>4742315
idk we'll see. If I can make 100-150 nudes this year I think I'll have built enough of a customer base to do it full time and slowly raise prices. I'm NEET right now but paying for my own supplies and gas and other stuff. It's just gonna take a lot of painting because my prices are kind of low.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:26:43 2020 No.4742395 >>4742315 Are you not aware Brian is living with his/off of parents? Don't try to think this is making it...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:35:07 2020 No.4742409 >>4742395 My parents aren’t making the paintings for me, what do I look like, Picasso?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:42:45 2020 No.4742417 >>4741343 I fucking love this, do ylu have a twitter?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 13:34:10 2020 No.4742484 >>4741860 it's a sketch, not a finished painting i take it you've never disemboweled an animal or seen one gutted?

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:02:46 2020 No.4742535

>>4742409
No, but you are a grown man, living off their teats still. You're playing at being an artist, thinking that selling a few low value pictures will ever really sustain you if you had to pai for actual bills without parental handouts.
You couldn't do it, otherwise you'd not be living under their roof doing nothing else, at the grand old age of 27. Eternal NGMI.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:06:45 2020 No.4742541 >>4742535 Whoever told you to never accept help from other people was an ass hole. Leave the "adulting is hard" criticisms on reddit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:07:23 2020 No.4742543 File: 303 KB, 1079x1449, 42.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] did a self portrait in a mask

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:11:49 2020 No.4742550 File: 372 KB, 1536x2048, 45.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] finally had a bit of time. totally out of practice. and materials. oil on an acrilyc practice book. no matter how shit i am i still love doing this also, any advice helps

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:24:30 2020 No.4742577 >>4742535 >parental handouts The most American "insult" I've ever read.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:25:08 2020 No.4742582

>>4742541
Being an adult means standing on your own two feet. Living off of someone else's money means you're kept in the eye's of the world. Sorry you don't like truth. That's why the truth is known to hurt. I run my own business and sell a ton of paintings too, but I don't pretend to make enough from the trad art to live off of it, and I wouldn't tell others on here that's it's easy either. It can be done, especially if you sell your soul and churn out the shit that appeals to normies, which is hardly going to be anyone that is here in the first place. So that will make anyone from /ic/ relatively miserable. It's money + sell out, or expect to only make very modest sales. I know someone that makes over 100 thousand GBP a year, but they sell literal 'wall art' that everyone here would screech over. Yet they make so much money they can't spend it all. I just can't (yet) bring myself to do that.
Yes, it was a long essay, but let's stop pretending "I sold a painting!!!" will be enough to pay the bills.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:25:46 2020 No.4742584 File: 267 KB, 882x1054, Begone Cumfarti.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4742577 Not even American, kek.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:29:27 2020 No.4742592

>>4742582
my art is better than your friends Homegoods art, first of all, second of all at the rate I'm going I make above minimum wage where I live for the three months I've been selling.

"Making it" to /ic/ in a grand sense does not mean making $500k a year selling bullshit. Most people here would dismiss your friends success, and if you think making it to the average d/ic/k has anything to do with money, and nothing to do with being a good artist, you should really lurk more.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:44:53 2020 No.4742632

>>4742592
They're not my friend.
I've been selling trad for 5 years & I'm not in a gallery. You're being pretty naive after a quick first flush of success, but you might get lucky. You're already complaining about getting bored after a few months of painting nudes, good luck with that if you have to keep yourself at just about minimum wage, for what all of /ic/ apart from you thinks are terrible paintings. You might think selling your paintings means you're hot shit & a great quality artist, but so does that person I know, they think they're really talented just like you do, and would think your stuff is crap. So which one of you is right? Fuck knows. And I don't care.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:46:00 2020 No.4742639 >>4742632 I AM in a gallery, even. Not typing any more, I am trying to work and have too much else to do right now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:49:19 2020 No.4742646 File: 1.37 MB, 3727x2655, IMG_20200722_203353627.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do you have any advice on how to draw better clouds in this? After I used the fixiative they lost the little contour they had. I used soft pastels.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:52:02 2020 No.4742652 >>4742639 >anyways I’m a very busy man and don’t have time to talk >is on the worst board on 4chan somehow Every time

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:53:05 2020 No.4742658 >>4742639 Also lol at you being in a gallery, have fun giving them 65% of your sales

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 15:17:10 2020 No.4742720 >>4742652 I run my own business from home, both of use raised the children around the business hours. >>4742658 30%, negotiated a flat fee. They wanted my works and that's the price they're taking. So yes, lol.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 15:21:38 2020 No.4742731

>>4742652
>>4742720
I'm just popping in here while I do a few bits of work, seeing what the kids are doing with theirs dinners, and the family are chatting. Looking at /ic/ before I paint. Been out in the sunshine scouting places to go plein air painting with the dog & easel, now it's time to work a little.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 15:22:49 2020 No.4742733 >>4742646 No idea about pastel, but I fix charcoal before I paint in oil, surely you sprayed too close to the picture to have dissolved the pastel?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 15:30:34 2020 No.4742754 >>4742731 >Been out in the sunshine scouting places to go plein air painting with the dog & easel, now it's time to work a little. you sound like a faggot, no offense

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 15:33:21 2020 No.4742767 >>4742731 This sounds like a horrible life I sleep with my animu body pillow in my bedroom from childhood and surround myself with my waifus on 6 different curved monitors while I eat dominos delivery waiting for (You)s

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 15:51:16 2020 No.4742821 >>4742754 I'm a girl, so not offended. >>4742767 Takes all sorts. Good for you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 16:41:54 2020 No.4742923 >>4742821 >I'm a girl, so not offended. I won't even go there, but imagine

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 16:44:05 2020 No.4742928 ur both faggots btw

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 17:19:08 2020 No.4742985 >>4742395 Wasn't aware. >>4742315 Ah, got it. Whatever dude. Fight the good fight.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 17:22:26 2020 No.4742992 Just read the saga of brain vs other guy while I was taking a shit. Have a nice day everyone and be well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 17:36:02 2020 No.4743026 >>4742992 >Have a nice day everyone and be well. >Except you Brian no money you ever make or paintings you ever do will satisfy my insatiable appetite for being a crab towards other artists who work harder than me ok then

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 17:49:18 2020 No.4743059 >>4743026 Lmao, no EVERYONE have a nice day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 17:51:57 2020 No.4743065 >>4742733 Not sure that's the problem. I redid the sky too much so it wasn't where I wanted it to be in the first place. And I can't do clouds in any medium, so all advice is appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 19:16:28 2020 No.4743279 >>4742417 i have an insta https://www.instagram.com/inkwithketchup/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 19:29:09 2020 No.4743295 tfw the only thing keeping this thread bumped is shitty drama

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 19:38:18 2020 No.4743313 >>4742646 If looks like you changed your mind on what kind of sky you wanted to draw several times. Soft pastels aren’t like oil or acrylic, there’s a limit to how much you can change what’s there before you end up with a chalky mess.

Anonymous Thu Jul 23 05:18:16 2020 No.4744141
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Reviving thread.
Reposting from beg
Finished my army guy portrait
Critique me help me
>inb4 more loomis
Yes i know tell me more, how are the shadows? I had a hard time figuring out what to do with the lit part of the face so i just added lines for texture.
Fixed droppy ear from beg.

Anonymous Thu Jul 23 05:23:10 2020 No.4744145
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>>4742646
My old painting. Not very good but im mostly proud of the clouds (i think theyre a bit to dark on the bottom). Trick is to hard press the white to add the fluffiness/highlights, a pastel pencil would be best.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 05:44:15 2020 No.4744188 >>4744141 The best thing I can say is just flip your image to see it with fresh eyes. Use your phone or something. Unless the reference looked like that, the position of the features are very skewed. Keep grinding.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 05:49:41 2020 No.4744194 >>4744188 Yeah i held the paper to a mirror and saw his right side is waaay too wide for that perspective, as if its melting off. Shouldnt have countinued the image at 11pm, ill start over but keep this one as it is my first.

Anonymous Thu Jul 23 07:42:41 2020 No.4744353

>>4744145
The clouds are better than any I ever did but they fit a sunny afternoon or something, while in the reference I used it was a more or less solid cloud cover where the evening light made them look all shades of blue.
I will try to draw some of your clouds later in another work

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 09:08:48 2020 No.4744441 File: 139 KB, 714x960, 44.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i posted this here about two months ago, when i painted it. I havent painted any faces since. but i plan to today. any advice on what i should do differently, what my mistakes are etc

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 09:47:48 2020 No.4744512 >>4744441 The hair looks like it was added last and doesn't interact with the rest of the face. And the brim if that hat is too flat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 10:02:42 2020 No.4744531 File: 523 KB, 820x955, schnrichtschnrocht.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i fell for the art meme.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 10:09:19 2020 No.4744542 >>4744512 the hair is tough to do. how do i make it interact with the face? some kind of blending where they meet, or more likee some reflections of the skintone? or just better texture and shading?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 10:14:15 2020 No.4744551 >>4744531 i love the way the edges arent strictly defined. the foreground is realy good, the clouds seem a bit weaker to me

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 10:35:30 2020 No.4744594 >>4730510 Damn

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 10:37:57 2020 No.4744600 >>4744531 You fell for the painting meme, learn perspective ffs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 10:39:10 2020 No.4744604 >>4744551 thanks. i thought i had a good idea for blending for clouds but it didnt pan out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 11:10:15 2020 No.4744674 >>4744604 it can be frustrating af when paint doesent quite behave the way you expect it to

Anonymous Thu Jul 23 11:12:38 2020 No.4744677

>>4744542
More texture would help, but the level of texture in the hair right now fits the texture in the rest of the painting. If you changed the one, you would have to change the other. The left side is allright but as the ear is very dark, so it could be darker as well. Might be alright if the hair is suposed to be very white.
The right side is one nearly unifrom white. You have a very dark shadow on the forehead from the hat but none on the hair. For the hairline you could make it softer (like on the right) or draw very fine hairs, though that would probably be too much detail. The right ear is also strange. Don't know how to change that though.
And maybe try to fit the beard better into the folds of his face. Those are well done and look very natural to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 12:10:44 2020 No.4744771 >>4744677 holy shit i totally forgot to put a shadow on the hair on the right side. and the shadow on the left ear and hair dont mach. thanks, ill pay more attention to the relalation of things etc

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 16:47:34 2020 No.4745313 >>4744600 It looks fine you Caucazoid

Anonymous Thu Jul 23 18:14:31 2020 No.4745503

>>4744441
Make sure your proportions are accurate before you refine the piece and add in details. Pay more attention to textures, everything looks like it's made of the same plasticy material.
Nice contrast though, a lot of beginners struggle with not going dark enough for the shadows.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 20:47:00 2020 No.4745810 File: 2.01 MB, 2787x3319, Webp.net-compress-image (12).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Underpainting/draft

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 00:34:25 2020 No.4746123 >>4745810 Finish it

Anonymous Fri Jul 24 08:55:38 2020 No.4746668
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I tried gessoing the pre-stretched canvas I have to make it more absorbant, it's not very noticeable but I think it makes the surface more workable.

Also I'm gonna try to paint some 150k-300k twitter follower accounts. There's a ton of girls with OnlyFans accounts that retweet each other and it's pretty easy to just find a super popular girl to paint. I just have to hope to get retweeted.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 18:37:30 2020 No.4747764 File: 293 KB, 1021x1355, 11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4746668 i finally got a retweet with this one

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:28:37 2020 No.4748427 >>4746668 The composition is drawing the eye right to the slight muffin top in an unappealing way. It makes her look lumpier than she is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 00:29:49 2020 No.4748429 >>4747764 Lighting sets a nice mood but the left arm is coming across as skeletal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 07:15:30 2020 No.4748912 >>4747764 Your proportions are so fucked up. Her head is gigantic and her arm is deformed. You really fucking suck Briguy.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 07:37:32 2020 No.4748939
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>>4747764
if you made an effort to learn color theory all your wok would be 100 times better, cuz right now its all muddy colors and blegh

also proportions, goddamn proportion, study anatomy + perspective + color theor and you will level up super fast

or disegard wjhat im saying if you wanna just do your thing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:14:53 2020 No.4748965 >>4747764 Oh my god, what even IS this horror?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:21:42 2020 No.4748980 >>4730561 how much do they sell for?

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:25:08 2020 No.4748983

>>4748427
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>>4748429
>>4748912
>>4748939
>>4748965
if it sells I've given up hope that normies care about things like "proportions" and "good art"

but hey at least I'll be making money

I get blackpilled everyday on how low the bar is to sell art.

>>4748980
$100-$250

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:32:02 2020 No.4748993 >>4748983 >$100-$250 oh sweet loli jesus what the fuck welp guess its time to dust off the old brushes and get some oil paints again

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:33:06 2020 No.4748995 >>4748983 how do you sell them might i ask? in person, through social media or a specific website?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:59:47 2020 No.4749015 File: 96 KB, 1000x921, ebaysales.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4748993 >>4748995 ebay. I've had a good week so far, sold paintings every day for the past four days.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 10:12:38 2020 No.4749088 File: 324 KB, 1131x1516, 511.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4749015 i think this one came out better than those other ones

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:49:13 2020 No.4749287 why do people say you can oil paint without solvent, its far too thick that way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 12:53:44 2020 No.4749296 >>4749287 i always use paint thinner

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 14:11:59 2020 No.4749366 >>4728654 BEGONE, CUMFARTI!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 14:14:08 2020 No.4749370 File: 290 KB, 1059x1404, 68.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4749366 i tried doing more color grouping with this one

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 15:00:56 2020 No.4749428 >>4749370 why does she have two mouths

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:42:44 2020 No.4749557 >>4749428 Symbolism, women talk too much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 16:47:05 2020 No.4749561 >>4749015 I'm happy for you. Hope to sell something this year too, I've never sold anything before and been experimenting with oil so hopefully I have a bit of a portfolio in oils in a couple of months.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:26:58 2020 No.4749601 >>4749561 Work across multiple subject matters, and try to just make some pretty paintings. You'll be selling in no time!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:27:31 2020 No.4749603 File: 307 KB, 1073x1436, 71.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4749428 idk

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:42:05 2020 No.4749628

>>4740463
Acrylic is good because it dries fast and is easy to clean up. You can learn the basics of painting without some of the problems a typical beginner might have with oil, its a lot easier to muddy oil paint or get frustrated with the slowness of it.
Watercolor also dries fast and is easy to clean up but it's a whole different beast and requires more forethought and knowledge of painting in general since for example you have to know where the lightest parts will be before you start, as opposed to oil and acrylic where you apply white paint to the whitest part and can generally change things around a lot more than you can with w/c

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:37:22 2020 No.4749839 File: 1.19 MB, 2947x2227, 20200725_142530.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First oil painting in a while, alot easier then i remember

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:41:00 2020 No.4749847 File: 30 KB, 612x816, spotty bird.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WIP I think i may have made too much spot on her breast

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 19:43:22 2020 No.4749851 >>4749287 I love to paint out of the tube

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:22:22 2020 No.4749953 Do you have any advice on how to stop procrastinating and actually starting to draw and paint instead of just thinking about it? It's so intimidating and being confronted with the reality of my suckiness hurts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 20:23:24 2020 No.4749958 >>4749953 Work from reference and it won’t be so scary. Working on traditional from your head is nigh impossible

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 23:15:48 2020 No.4750219 >>4749953 by the time youve prepared your workspace youll feel like you have to do something with it, instead of ignoring it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 04:03:11 2020 No.4750536 >>4749953 I usually do something easy like a quick sketch of something I want to practice before I move on to more serious pieces for the day. That way getting started is less intimidating.

Anonymous Sun Jul 26 07:25:28 2020 No.4750747

>>4749953
Basically set yourself your own deadlines, that's really the only way to achieve things as a 'self employed' artist. Otherwise you'll get into the habit of "oh I don't feel like painting, i'll finish it next week". No bitch you're finishing that shit now

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 09:13:38 2020 No.4750838 File: 641 KB, 507x761, guhwash.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] morning. I bought a tube of gouache. I definitely fucked this up and made him look generally burned. More Gouache on the way though. I love how it feels.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 09:14:43 2020 No.4750840 >>4749847 also, cute. love birds.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 18:30:51 2020 No.4751709 >>4728667 I kinda like this Just work on the skin tones, they're kinda chalky and bland. Also change that godawful puke green to literally anything else, an olive green or turquoise would work much better

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>>4729270
Fixed it for ya (my angles are probably slightly off but im phone posting, just do what works from the actual vanishing points) also make the white edge less of an outline, make it so there are only pops of white

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 26 23:22:54 2020 No.4752244 >>4728747 Digital artfag detected

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:50:52 2020 No.4753846 >>4753753 Your paper is very warped. What kind are you using?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:52:42 2020 No.4753850 >>4751723 The shape is looking bent, I think it’s the left edge from horizon up. That edge needs to be cleaned up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:18:25 2020 No.4753886 File: 283 KB, 1135x1449, wip4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4751709 any paint that touches that canvas will be me polishing a turd

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:49:23 2020 No.4754271 >>4753886 Eyes way too far apart. I can see where you were going with the shirt but that sleeve is just sloppy.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:55:03 2020 No.4754756
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Say what you want about Brian but he has a fun face to paint. Didn’t really get the likeness but I’m happy enough with the result for a first try at acrylics. Usually do digital and I’m fucked slow at mixing paints and shit, gonna need more mileage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:59:28 2020 No.4754765 >>4754756 Thanks! I’m assuming this is shaun

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:34:15 2020 No.4754813 >>4753846 Seems more warped than it actually is. Generic drawing paper. Not watercolorpaper.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:45:18 2020 No.4754839 >>4754756 Unironically far above anything Cumfarti has ever produced or ever will produce. Good job.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:46:28 2020 No.4754844 >>4753886 Yeah that's a FAS head. Terrible

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:47:55 2020 No.4754850 >>4754756 why would you give that parasite any attention. hes a shit artist with a shit personality

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:13:05 2020 No.4754904 >>4754813 Buy some decent paper, you’re shooting yourself in the foot. At least mixed media.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:17:09 2020 No.4754911

>>4754765
How did you figure this out?? haha

>>4754813
Uh, you aren’t me. It’s watercolour paper, not drawing paper. As another poster said though I should probably used mixed media paper. I’m just used to using the shittest tools possible because I’m cheap.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:21:27 2020 No.4754916 File: 289 KB, 1080x1388, wip5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4753886 finished this >>4754839 imagine thinking /trad/ artists are drama queens like /draw/ and /alt/ artists

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:41:04 2020 No.4754942

>>4754911
I understand the impulse to go cheap but paper is not something you want to cheap out on. It doesn’t need to be super expensive but some mid grade watercolor paper would help a lot.
You can also reduce warping by
-taping down your paper with painters tape
-pausing less while painting so the ink pools less
-fully drying between layers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:43:50 2020 No.4754950 >>4754916 Nose looks a lot better but the highlight above the lip is making her look like she has a cleft palate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:59:43 2020 No.4754974 >>4754950 I’m not personally seeing that, if that’s an issue it’s not as noticeable as the eye placement was

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:00:03 2020 No.4754975 >>4754916 youre one of the biggest drama queen attention whores here you vacant eyed numale

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:06:04 2020 No.4754979 >>4754916 That sleeve is exceptionally lazy. As is her eye.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:30:57 2020 No.4755006

>>4754979
I don’t know that that matters, you can get pretty abstract and loose with stuff that’s not the focal point. If anything is maybe tone done the value change between the sleeve’s highlighted side and shadow, the contrast probably draws the eye too much but imo it’s okay to let secondary/tertiary elements in an image devolve into interesting shapes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:34:19 2020 No.4755012 >>4754916 Exceptional. I like the sleeve, but will you make it more 3D?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:58:36 2020 No.4755054 File: 280 KB, 1091x1400, wip6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4755006 >>4755012 i made the shirt a color instead of just the white of the gesso

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:05:59 2020 No.4755067 File: 322 KB, 1122x1450, portraithr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4755054 here's a high resolution version of it

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:24:29 2020 No.4755098

>>4755054
>>4755067
Looks good. Things I'd point out: The shape on the left side of her neck (her right) is too contrasty, if it's just shadows on her neck. If it's hair, the hue is too skin colored.

The most important thing you could easily fix is to lighten up your blacks around the face, and keep your darkest blacks for the actual face - the eyes, nostrils and the line between the lips, cause it looks a bit flat right now. A final point would be to maybe lighten up the hair form in front because it feels a bit too dark and distracting, but that might just be your reference's poor lighting.

Love your hues though. Keep it up!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:25:48 2020 No.4755104 File: 757 KB, 1800x1200, DSC_0213.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4755006 What, like Sargent did? Careful you don't start referencing him, easy now....

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:06:10 2020 No.4755181 File: 301 KB, 1093x1404, finished.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4755098 tried to define some of the wispy shadows on the neck more, and added those darks to the face (and lightened up her lips)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:08:01 2020 No.4755191 >>4755067 I really like the way you did the hair

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:10:36 2020 No.4755199 File: 1.22 MB, 1660x2000, 69.306-d1-2017-02-02_o2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4755191 when i do hair it's 100% gauguin. hair and the way he painted background elements are 100% stolen from him. The rest is just a mish-mash of styles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:14:02 2020 No.4755209 >>4755199 it's 0.002% gauguin and 99.998 % heavy handed /beg/ moron

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:14:53 2020 No.4755212 >>4755209 something something 99% of /ic/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:19:21 2020 No.4755227 File: 207 KB, 285x531, this bit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4755181 this bit is nice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:20:55 2020 No.4755236 >>4755227 sure if youre shit at perspective and anatomy and color theory its not too bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:23:05 2020 No.4755241 >>4755236 Bruh

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:27:07 2020 No.4755255 >>4755236 Post your work

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:30:23 2020 No.4755261

>>4755104
Sargent did it very tastefully and conservatively, but in a more heavily stylised painting you can get away with even more, eg. merging objects at different depths within a painting, or reducing objects to just literal abstract shapes that only exist to aid the composition and don’t actually describe an object anymore.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:31:53 2020 No.4755264 >>4755236 >its wrong but i wont go further into it your critique is as terrible as your perception of the picture.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:33:21 2020 No.4755271

>>4755261
You can basically pull a reverse Ingres, where the face is very detailed and the rest is loose, but you’ll be able to “believe” the abstract parts because there’s a part that’s very realistic. Ingres would do it the opposite where he’d make the clothes hyper real and make the face much more stylized, but you’d believe that was the persons face because the rest was so realistic

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:41:25 2020 No.4755289

>>4755271
Can you name any examples of artists or pieces that demonstrate what you mean? From what I’ve seen of Ingres, it was all very much figurative and fairy “sensibly” rendered - nothing I would call too abstract anyway. I would think that if you have more detail to everything but the face, you might believe a face COULD be there, but your eyes won’t be drawn to the face as a focal point. Or they might because of the contrast, but they won’t stay there, because of the lack of interest.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:50:36 2020 No.4755304
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>>4755289
that theory of working threading through Ingres ended up skipping generations, Impressionists didn't do it, and were very focused on consistent brush strokes across the whole canvas, but Post-Impressionism is rife with examples of incredibly detailed moments in their work surrounded by flat shapes and abstract moments. Munch did it a lot, so did van Gogh.

It didn't become a thing again until Cubism, which was a movement based almost entirely on Cezanne's "unfinished" form focused later work and then later again in Abstract Expressionism with Basquiat. Cezanne in particular, and later Picasso, were notorious for having areas of a painting completely finished and rendered, and as it spirals out towards the edges of the canvas it becomes nothing but scrawled brushwork and underdrawing.

Basquiat would sometimes just leave half the canvas empty, with some hyper-drawn figure or cluster of detailed schematics.

this Ingres painting, where the face is practically anime, and this Basquiat drawing where it becomes a giant patch of flat black, are the same working theory.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:58:47 2020 No.4755319 >>4755227 I quite like her face, and I'm one of Bri's biggest leg pullers. She looks like shes had too many hits off the bong. I really don't get the fascination with Gauguin though, his work is shonky AF.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:00:09 2020 No.4755324 >>4755304 I think Ingres was trying to flatter the sitter though, by putting vaseline on the lens, as it were.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:08:42 2020 No.4755341

>>4755304
I think for the most part we’re talking about and appreciating the same concept. I think I understand what you meant by a “reverse Ingres” now - certainly a far cry from the abstractions used in the compositions of some of those other names, but the same concept in a weird way. Thanks for the in-depth explanation.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:15:03 2020 No.4755349

>>4755181
100% improved the face. Awesome!
Still those shadows on the neck are impossible to read - for my brain at least. Try to check the values and the hardness/softness of those shadows on your reference.

if you're having trouble comparing the colors, check out how a traditional color checker works from youtube channel "draw mix paint". Keep at it, it's coming out really well!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:59:52 2020 No.4755408 File: 293 KB, 1148x1454, finished2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4755349 i decided to just get rid of the shadows entirely

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 13:22:29 2020 No.4755451 >>4755408 Are you using a 'selfie' type ref, is that why the arm seems to lift up? Also, Gauguin was in a tropical climate, you can't translate those light conditions to ordinary references.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 13:32:51 2020 No.4755467
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>>4755451
this one is the one I always come back to for reference on background elements. He'd put bounding lines around quadrants of color and break it up with brushstrokes that lead into flatter planes of color. It gives a weird "swirling" effect to his backgrounds that makes them look unlike static walls and more like relief sculptures or knotted fabric. A really bizarre effect that he refused to stop doing once he learned how to do it. It can be seen all over his work. It was this strange affect where he never wanted his whole painting to look like something, he wanted areas you'd be confused by because they were so overly decorative.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 13:34:58 2020 No.4755472
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>>4755467
this painting by him is also notoriously ridiculous and impossible to read at first glance, and that "knotted" brushwork is all over it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 14:16:55 2020 No.4755536 >>4755467 Not getting those backgrounds. Are you interpreting this yourself, or is this some considered art history about PG? It always looks like his backgrounds are a right muddle up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 14:57:21 2020 No.4755608 >>4740488 You can get hard and soft edges with acrylics though. Just in different ways than oil. One is by adding fresh paint to the edges of each color and kind of zigzaging to blend or, what i find to work best is drybrushing/scumbling the edges.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 15:45:13 2020 No.4755734
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>>4755408
much better imo.

hate to do this at this stage, but her forehead, hairline and top of the head look a bit squashed together. Maybe recheck those proportions, much easier to add some extra hair shape on top than to take away though. just my 2 cents. solid image, anyway you decide though :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:36:28 2020 No.4755852 File: 3.05 MB, 2976x3968, IMG_20200728_200727.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Monarch butterfly

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 17:04:09 2020 No.4755906 File: 105 KB, 1080x1350, 88391556_641744159997348_6910339595876862868_n(1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like making sculptres but not sure if its something i should fully pursue or do as a hobby.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 17:04:45 2020 No.4755911 >>4755199 shit hands, ngmi.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 17:09:05 2020 No.4755919
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>>4755852
Compositionally, I'd have the butterfly on the right (her left) radiating from her, like the ones on the left, since the right one is too static and vertical.

Otherwise it's a pretty neat picture. Nice work!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 18:21:07 2020 No.4756112 >>4742550 I like it but try to do strokes instead of dots

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 19:57:13 2020 No.4756363 File: 541 KB, 1620x1057, gruwalpencil.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ok, i will buy better paper.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 20:39:46 2020 No.4756458
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>>4756363
cool landscape. that yellow middle ground really communicates the land. I don't know how realistic or how impressionistic you want to go with this, but in case you want to make your image more realistic, you can use atmospheric perspective to create the illusion of depth. Practically, the further away something is, the more air and dust particles are between your eye and your subject, which makes the whole thing tinted with sky color, and also washes out the crisp contrast you'd find in a foreground element.

In your furthest away mountain, the darkest color should be much much lighter, and its contrast dialed down.

pictured: atmospheric perspective irl. Notice the value spectrum compressed, and the sky color tint as the distance from the subject grows

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 21:31:34 2020 No.4756512 >>4741343 bro your stuff go so fuckin hard damn i love this

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 00:12:17 2020 No.4756750
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Can someone ID the media being used here for the colors, is it pastel or some kind of mixed media? I'm finally getting into working with colors and I'd love to start digging into whatever medium Akemi Takada uses to create these super comfy palettes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 00:13:11 2020 No.4756755 File: 3.99 MB, 2900x2000, cat noa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4756750 Another example of the medium in question

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 00:19:09 2020 No.4756765
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first time using watercolors since kindergarden and honestly it was an excruciating experience with colours constantly feeling like they're drifting out of my control. also i have no idea what to do about the hair. it's supposed to be while and the while coulour i have available just in't white enough.
probably should've tried to colour something simpler

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 02:43:42 2020 No.4756926 >>4756750 >>4756755 Isn't this fully digital?

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 02:47:18 2020 No.4756929

>>4756765
>colours constantly feeling like they're drifting out of my control
That's normal and that's what watercolors are liked for.
>coulour i have available just in't white enough
You are doing it wrong. There is only one real white color in watercolors - color of paper. Yes, you need to never paint over white areas. It is one of the hardest things while working watercolors but it does gives most pleasant results.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:02:35 2020 No.4756946 >>4756755 Watercolor and maybe some ink

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:07:49 2020 No.4756952 >>4756765 >>4756929 You get more control as you practice and are able to predict the flow. There’s no shortcut to it unfortunately, and it can take years depending on how far you want to go.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:10:50 2020 No.4756955 File: 220 KB, 901x897, マクロファージ__公開版.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why does beige colors are so hard to mix? I had to use three base colors in mix, isn't there some shortcut?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 06:15:22 2020 No.4757119 >>4756955 Well, beige is light brown, a tertiary colour, so what did you expect? That looks close to raw sienna though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 06:42:37 2020 No.4757147 >>4739230 really nice anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 07:06:07 2020 No.4757181 >>4756926 As far as I know this artist works trad. >>4756946 Thanks, mate

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 11:38:42 2020 No.4757529 >>4756929 >>4756952 i see, thank you for your insight.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 13:34:22 2020 No.4757706 >>4756750 >>4756755 Looks like gouache

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 01:56:56 2020 No.4759338 >>4728654 Every time i try to use watercolor i fail how the fuck do i do this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:03:10 2020 No.4759476 >>4759338 Be specific. Is the paper warping or disintegrating? Is it just blotchy? Are you having issues with muddy colors?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:05:04 2020 No.4759483 File: 504 KB, 742x1000, 20200730_085804.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's getting hot in here.

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:50:38 2020 No.4759568

>>4756750
>>4756755
Ink for the outlines, probably poster color for the colors, it's somewhere in between a watercolor and a gouache. It's what was mainly used to paint anime backgrounds before digital.
Could also involve some mixed media with pastel, but the main portion of these pieces is painted, especially the characters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:53:51 2020 No.4759576 >>4756955 I usually add a small amount of violet to my yellow to get beige. Of course, that is only quicker if you have a violet on your palette.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 11:44:28 2020 No.4760144 >>4759483 great forms

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 15:43:13 2020 No.4760546
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I feel dumb for not being able to tell but what does Sushio use to color his sketches? I feel like it's either colored pencils or markers but I'm not sure. His sketches are so simplified but as an animator I envy his ability to be so loose yet solid in his drawings.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 20:38:50 2020 No.4761074 File: 144 KB, 855x1139, First Contact.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] stippling bros where we at

Anonymous Fri Jul 31 01:52:22 2020 No.4761499
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hello uh does anybody to at-home printmaking? I'm having just an awful time with speedball's water-based block printing ink and cushioned baren. When just printing a lino block onto reeves, it's evident that the paper isn't catching all the ink. And then when I dampen it, it still doesn't print very well, even after I press/rub with all my might. I learned to hand-print with oil-based ink (on reeves) and it was extremely easy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 02:35:18 2020 No.4761547 >>4761499 nevermind!! I switched to a wooden spoon and now they literally print perfectly lol the speedball cushioned hand-press is just garbage

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 02:53:12 2020 No.4761569 >>4760546 Coloured pencils, not the right texture for marker.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 02:55:15 2020 No.4761574 >>4761074 The tentacle texture is too much like the head texture which makes it hard to read. It’s a shame because the stippling is actually pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 04:11:51 2020 No.4761690 >>4761574 i'll remember this for the next drawing, thanks !

Anonymous Fri Jul 31 07:47:30 2020 No.4762040

oil paint dudes help me out?
say you paint a sky. then you want a tree on the next plane.
you cant really wait for the sky to dry, it has t. white in it, itll be days.
so you paint a trunk into the sky? but dark on light doesnt work so well when its wet.
am i supposed to be adding more oil to help it go over without mixing?
am i supposed to allow for the trunk, paint that first, then awkwardly paint sky around it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 07:51:05 2020 No.4762048 >>4762040 Depends on the picture you're painting, let us see it. If the trunk/tree is a major part of the composition, I usually indicate where it goes with a sketchy underpainting in fast drying transparent colours ie mixed with some turps.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 07:55:26 2020 No.4762055 File: 159 KB, 500x692, tumblr_p2wnvlpYEt1ry5naio1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4762048 kinda like this, but imagine the tree on the left isnt cut off abruptly

Anonymous Fri Jul 31 08:02:51 2020 No.4762068

>>4762055
I would have indicated those right hand branches, and the tree, and put sky holes back in when painting the sky, allowing for a bit darker sky colour in between branches.
Your best bet for getting the branches to look right is to paint them, and cut back into them with the sky colour to get the thinness you want, then put the leaf marks in last.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 08:37:30 2020 No.4762103 >>4762068 hm thanks.

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