/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4708451]

Is he gonna make it?

[Anonymous No.4708455]

Worthless ass thread

[Anonymous No.4708460]

>>4708451
Instead of looking up guides or references, he's reinventing the wheel in these "studies".

[Anonymous No.4708461]

>>4708451
a ngmi died for this

[Anonymous No.4708466]

>>4708451
I fucking hate grafo, he shit up the rimworld fandom and makes lackluster crap

[Anonymous No.4708475]

>>4708451
no

[Anonymous No.4708499]

The way he draws, uses guidelines and studies is so rigid. Like, he uses lots of geometrical shit like in the OP, but those can change wildly if you do elaborate poses.
It's taking a toll on his progress cause all he does is standing around poses.

[Anonymous No.4708531]

>>4708451
>those breasts
>the whole chest area in general

[Anonymous No.4708562]

>>4708451
He needs the villpu shoved deep in his rear end

[Anonymous No.4708568]

Who is this guy and why do people care about him?

[Anonymous No.4708581]

>>4708568
Reddit's ace artist. It's sad how a guy who isnt even aware of fundamentals is better than 99% of /ic/

[Anonymous No.4708586]

>>4708451
he’s already reddit-made it

[Anonymous No.4708593]

>>4708581
>isnt even aware of fundamentals
There's literally some construction in OP's image...

[Anonymous No.4708600]

>>4708581
But I see better art on reddit all the time. His stuff is just meh but shows up in r/all every damn day.

[Anonymous No.4708618]

>>4708593
That's just the result of a beginner having the vaguest idea of contruction. Probably saw a pro do it once and just went with it. Look at it, he's making up shit on the go. "new marks for boob location"? that wrong understanding of the pecs. He's better off looking up established construction methods aka fundamentals

[Anonymous No.4708631]

>>4708618
Don't get me wrong, it's not very good construction or anything, but acknowledging and using construction is knowing some form of the fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.4708678]

>>4708581
if he actually draws regularly that would automatically make him better than 90% of /ic/

[Anonymous No.4708687]

this guy starts drawing from the torso, i think that explains everything

[Anonymous No.4708705]

>>4708451
how come he gets the ribcage sort of right in the construction and then fucks it up

[Anonymous No.4708735]

>>4708451
This is what happens when you skip le form, anatomy, perspective and just grind values everyday

[Anonymous No.4708754]

>>4708687
>>4708687
What's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.4708785]

>>4708687
no rules just tools

[Anonymous No.4708800]

>>4708687
Are you retarded? That doesn't make a difference. In fact, it might even help retards like you who draw a shit head and then can't construct the rest of the body because of the shit head you drew
fucking faggot, this moron is bad because he's another retard trying to reinvent the wheel when he could just fucking LEARN THE FUNDAMENTALS

[Anonymous No.4708801]

>>4708451
He's still better than everyone in this thread.

[Anonymous No.4708802]

>>4708801
Especially you

[Anonymous No.4708803]

>>4708800
Here we see the seething faggot who can't deal with the fact that other people are making it while he's stuck drawing boxes over and over.

[Anonymous No.4708804]

>>4708451
What fucking muscles is he outlining here? The clavicular head of the pectoralis doesn't insert like that, the sternocostal head of the pectoralis major should be lower and the clavicle is bow-shaped and doesn't look like that

[Anonymous No.4708805]

>>4708801
pyw

[Anonymous No.4708816]

>>4708803
Nigga, i work with illustration, it's my LIVING
"oooh he's bad because he draws the torso first" is such a crab fucking thing and if you can't understand how that isn't related to the fact that grafo fucks up the construction of the torso
Go fucking learn proper anatomy grafo you faggot, stop trying to invent tricks that you could've learned reading a fucking book. fag

[Anonymous No.4708830]

>>4708816
>>4708805

[Anonymous No.4708841]

>>4708805

[Anonymous No.4708854]

>>4708830
>>4708841

[Anonymous No.4708873]

>>4708800
what im saying is because he focused on drawing the torso instead of gestures first, he ends up drawing unbalanced michael jackson characters

[Anonymous No.4708874]

>>4708499
The sad thing is reddit is such a hugbox he will likely never receive any criticism, instead they probably just take turns sucking his dick all day thus stagnating him further.

[Anonymous No.4708877]

>>4708873
Oh, my bad then, that's absolutely true.
It's like he's trying to find a new way to shit that have been taught better before, it's impressive how much he's trying to be mediocre

[Anonymous No.4708880]

>>4708581
What’s his name?

[Anonymous No.4708886]

>>4708880
It's already there

[Anonymous No.4708887]

>>4708802
>>4708805
pyw

[Anonymous No.4708888]

>Anime #practices
You weebs would do whatever to avoid reading actual books.

[Anonymous No.4708891]

>>4708801
I am now in this thread, so, wrong

[Anonymous No.4708892]

>>4708887
>>4707405

[Anonymous No.4708911]

[Anonymous No.4708948]

NOOOOOO, YOU CAN'T BLAME HIM, HE DRAWS BETTER THAN EVERYONE HERE, HE IS ACTUALLY MAKING STUDIES!

[Anonymous No.4709044]

>>4708816
> I've got a lot of opinions and I will shove them down your throat
> and I know what I'm talking about I p-promise because
> it's my LIVING

pyw

> I-I-I can't p-post my work because... because p-p-people will recognize me baka senpai desu

stfu and go back to your drawabox you fucking larper

[Anonymous No.4709047]

>>4709044
pyw

[Anonymous No.4709050]

>>4708891
absolutely based

[Anonymous No.4709057]

How do I appeal to normies? I wanna extract every single cent I can out of them.

[Anonymous No.4709095]

>>4708451
grafo lives fucking rent free in my head. every time i see his shitty oc posted, i absolutely seethe. did you know there's an entire sub for her at r/chloe? near daily he posts his deliveries of requests from his rabid fanbase of horny ironic weeaboos. each posts gets at least 10k upvotes with multiple awards. and then there's his dumbass dough-boy avatar featured in his 'relatable' comics that are guaranteed to get recycled into meem template. god, the worst part is that i'm guilty of some of this shit. i've been trying to let go, but whenever i see his work, i- eugh

/rant

[Anonymous No.4709110]

>>4708451
looking at his work, I don't feel so bad about my shit...

[Anonymous No.4709116]

>NOOOOOO, you can't get imaginary Reddit points without sucking off long dead old farts, like I did the last 10 years
>no I can't draw an attractive-looking human, but why would I do that when I can make an immaculate box? Fundies man, fundies make the artist

[Anonymous No.4709146]

>>4709095
Gosh, this is terrible. She has scoliosis with anterior pelvic tilt. Gonna fix it.

[Anonymous No.4709159]

His popularity pisses me off. Laugh at me, I don't care.

[Anonymous No.4709167]

>>4708886
Then gimme a link to his insta or whatever so I can see more of his work. If I type “grafo” on google I get french graphs.

[Anonymous No.4709169]

>>4709167
Fucking christ. Srgrafo says right there

[Anonymous No.4709170]

>>4709159
HELLA OF IMPROVEMENT, BITCH.
SHOULD'VE TAKEN THREE WEEKS, NOT FUCKING TWO YEARS.

[Anonymous No.4709176]

>>4709167
>>4709169
don't spoon feed retards, they are going to multiply and shit everywhere

[Anonymous No.4709192]

>>4709159
Quickfixed

[Anonymous No.4709200]

>>4709192
At least it no longer looks like this but with weirdass shading.

[Anonymous No.4709262]

>>4709192
>2 years of improvement
>anon fixes it on a snap

kek

[Anonymous No.4709387]

>>4709170
Post your 3 weeks improvement

[Anonymous No.4709397]

>>4709387
Imma drawing whenever I want, r**ditor

[Anonymous No.4709431]

>>4709176
>>4709169
Don’t make threads about your literal who eCelebs if you’re not gonna give us their profile to look at their work you stupid fag. I have a busy life, and don’t spend every microsecond hunting down the next jackass you choose to bitch about. Take this shit to Reddit where it belong if you’re gonna be all pretentious about it. This isn’t someone mainstream like Sakimi or Kron that everyone should know about, it’s some nobody from Reddit and googling his work I get chibi comic figures.

[Anonymous No.4709489]

>>4709431
>I have a busy life
No you fucking dont if you have the time to browse 4chan of all fucking places. Now fuck off

[Anonymous No.4709525]

>>4708754
as >>4708785 said is just his way of doing things, there's nothing really wrong with it, hell specially not since he is just drawing anime girls, people barely give a shit about proportions when it comes to anime as long as is cute, the only "problem" is that well he could just make his own life easier by learning the fundamentals,

but you know he is mostly another one of those "wow that is relatable so it's ok for him no one is expecting him to do some serious drawing /ic/ just gets mad at it because they are trying to be way more serious and it can be frustrating for them to see someone doing simple stuff get way too much attention

[Anonymous No.4709530]

>>4709431
Busy with sucking your toe with that single digit IQ of yours?

[Anonymous No.4709531]

>>4709431
>busy life
>while browsing 4chan
Every time

[Anonymous No.4709628]

just looked it up, this guy actually thinks breast muscle exists

[Anonymous No.4709631]

>>4708451
Not if he's making anatomy tutorials with wrong anatomy

[Anonymous No.4709654]

>>4709628
I'm curious about the video he's talking about. So much wrong information being dispersed everytime he reaches the front page.

[Anonymous No.4709668]

>>4709654
>>4709628
He’s going to fuck over the newbies real hard. He alone might lower the skill level of art reddit.

[Anonymous No.4709687]

>>4709628
Looks like the type of artist who really insists on drawing entirely from imagination. Would rather make up shit instead of looking up and studying references.

[Anonymous No.4709767]

>>4708451
I don't think so. Looks like any other generic beginners out there.

[Anonymous No.4709779]

>>4709767
Are you sure about that?

[Anonymous No.4709781]

>>4709779
Yes.

[Anonymous No.4709782]

>>4709095
sounds like the guy made it

[Anonymous No.4709804]

>>4709779
yep definitely made it, didn't even had to be /int/ level
marketing and appeal is everything
this is why most of of the anons here are NGMI because not only they have shit taste but they are too autistic for the marketing game

[Anonymous No.4709904]

>>4709668
Less competition heheh

[Anonymous No.4709920]

Reddit might have the worst artists on the internet

[Anonymous No.4709922]

>>4709804
If 'making it' is posting soulless meme template comics to reddit every day then I quite frankly do not want to 'make it'.

[Anonymous No.4709930]

>>4709922
>posting soulless meme template comics to reddit
fate worse than death. No upward mobility, literal nu-male bux. It's not like this guys popular on Artstation or Pixiv or even Deviantart. Hell being well known on 4chan is better for your art career

[Anonymous No.4709957]

>>4709628
Does he ever draw characters at a different angle or pose? So far I'm only seeing them stand there looking pretty

[Anonymous No.4709988]

>>4708451
My first thought based on this character and style was that someone tries to be Vinne 2.0.
It was wrong. Never heard about him before, anyway.

>>4709957
Doesn't really look like it, but he can draw them sitting, at least.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/12627130/illustrations

[Anonymous No.4709992]

>>4709957
I scrolled his sub, he definitely has mileage in drawing this girl in various costumes. In his earlier pieces, he has a bit more variety in poses. Nowadays it looks like he's playing it safe.

[Anonymous No.4710039]

>>4709988
How boring. 500 patrons over this huh

[Anonymous No.4710153]

>>4708451
The tits are out of perspective.

[Anonymous No.4710179]

>>4708687
I like flat chest

[Anonymous No.4710181]

>>4710179
K

[Anonymous No.4710236]

>>4710153
Yep, they are.
But coomers gonna coom.
>gonna quickfix dat

[Anonymous No.4710240]

>>4709988
>https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/12627130/illustrations
i like how his bio is "trying to learn how to draw" and he's making fucking tutorials

[Anonymous No.4710303]

tee hee tee hee

[Anonymous No.4710320]

>>4710303
Fucking lol i can feel the seethe off this post.

[Anonymous No.4710326]

>>4710303
uhh kinda based kinda not
Tending towards cringe

[Anonymous No.4710342]

>>4708687
This guy is bad and you should avoid even looking at his art less it taint your eyes

[Anonymous No.4710347]

>>4710326
at least I resized the boob

[Anonymous No.4710380]

>>4710347
yea

[Anonymous No.4710389]

I can tell cuz I was a plebitor long ago Grafo is one of the rarest case of extreme OC adoration autism kinda like Chris-chan.
This guy was an absolute shit tier webcomic artist then must have became a weeb and created this girl about 2 years ago and included her everywhere he fucking could, hundreds of drawings, made comic were he is talking to her, fake tutorials like op's pic and make her cosplay all the waifus existing.
His autism pushed him to make an entire subreddit basically dedicated to her where he's the only poster to show his bitch like its only own cuz he didn't like people making fanarts of her, he probably masturbated to her more than once too cuz half his pixiv page is her naked even with shitty anatomy, pic related speaks for itself

[Anonymous No.4710407]

>>4710389
I seriously dont get the appeal of people adoring someone else's oc on a simp level. When it's from a show, book, game etc it's understandable

[Anonymous No.4710418]

>>4710389
Fuckin weird

[Anonymous No.4710473]

>>4710389
Modern day Pygmalion

[Anonymous No.4710474]

>>4710389
Looks like someone is jealous of gafo's popularity

[Anonymous No.4710478]

>>4710179
same

[Anonymous No.4710498]

>>4710474
Is that a bad thing? Being jealous of undeserved success? Keep in mind "undeserved" is defined entirely subjectively.

[Anonymous No.4710508]

>>4708804
Yeah, theirs so many people talking smack because the face is appealing but the anatomy and proportions are pretty horrible.

Look at how wide her torso is at the top versus under the breasts.

This is literally your brain on coom

[Anonymous No.4710515]

>>4710498
There's no such thing as undeserved popularity.

[Anonymous No.4710521]

>>4710498
looks deserve to me, he has the anime style down compared to a lot of retards on /ic/ who say that anime appeal is easy to reproduce then fail miserably at

[Anonymous No.4710534]

>>4710498
Your reasoning of undeserved success is hardly justified. It's Sakimichan all over again.
He hasn't done anything offensive or controversial. He played the game and got lucky, and at the end of the day his art isn't THAT bad.

[Anonymous No.4710547]

>>4710498
There’s worse

[Anonymous No.4710550]

>>4710547
Saying you're a young female who draws Nintendo shit on twitter is guaranteed to get you follows

[Anonymous No.4710567]

>>4710547
Do you have a vendetta against this bitch or what? Why do you keep posting her, faggot?

[Anonymous No.4710580]

>>4710389
NURGLE CALLS FOR YOU

[Anonymous No.4710582]

>>4710567
>seething

[Anonymous No.4710590]

>>4710582
Obsessed

[Anonymous No.4710601]

>>4710590
cope

[Anonymous No.4710603]

>>4710601
Obsessed

[Anonymous No.4710611]

>>4710603
dilate

[Anonymous No.4710614]

>>4710582
>>4710590
>>4710601
>>4710603
>>4710611
seething cope

[Anonymous No.4710619]

>>4710611
Obsessed

[Anonymous No.4710620]

>>4710603
>>4710590
>>4710567
That shit was only posted twice. Why are you sperging out?

[Anonymous No.4710625]

>>4710614
Obsessed dilate seething cope

[Anonymous No.4710632]

Quality thread guys

[Anonymous No.4710645]

he draws a lot and does a ton of shameless self promotion, it’s not hard to figure out

[Anonymous No.4710649]

>>4710645
>he draws a lot
he doesn't though. he probably never has time to do studies because his time is split between his shitty comics and having to fake knowing how to draw anime for tutorials. He's legit not going to make it unless he disappears from the internet and studies, but he can't give up making money. Same problem with any successful social media artist that started making money before they knew how to draw.

[Anonymous No.4710657]

>>4710649
wtf
he already made it

[Anonymous No.4710660]

>>4710657
He can’t draw he didn’t make it, he’d tell you as much

[Anonymous No.4710668]

>>4710660
He still made it and has more than 500 patreons even though his work is barely /int/ level, something that most of anons here can’t do.

[Anonymous No.4710680]

>>4710668
I’m sure I could name endless amounts of people who suck at their craft that are successful that you would talk shit about, just because this particular guy doesn’t offend you with his brand of mediocrity doesn’t mean other anons aren’t allowed to talk shit about him.
It doesn’t affect anyone here’s objective of being good at art that he makes more money than us, but we’re still allowed to say how shit he is, unless you feel you owe him something? Are you offended because you’re one of his plebbit fans or Patreon funders? If so you have shit taste and we should make fun of you too

[Anonymous No.4710684]

>>4710680
don't bother, >>4710668
is clearly an amerifat that associates being rich with being talented

[Anonymous No.4710689]

Jeez, go back to work.

MAKE SOME PRACTICE AND DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME ON DISCUSSING MISERABLE PYGMALION GOLD DIGGERS!

YOU WANT TO GET BETTER AT ART?
SO STFU AND GO BACK TO WORK, BITCH!

[Anonymous No.4710713]

>>4710684
>>4710680
You should focus on improving your artwork, instead of just seething that a guy made a living from his plebbit comics ;).

[Anonymous No.4710715]

>>4710713
>You should focus on improving your artwork
im already a master

[Anonymous No.4710721]

>>4710715
you know the drill

[Anonymous No.4710754]

>>4710660
What do you mean he can't draw? he's clearly drawing with at least enough appeal that normalfags redditors are ready to pay up and suck his cock meanwhile tryhard /int/ from here who apparently can draw are stuck at 100 followers

[Anonymous No.4710809]

bump

[Anonymous No.4710842]

>>4710809
Wtf are you "bumping" this useless thread for on this slow ass board 20 minutes after the most recent post
Retard

[Anonymous No.4711025]

>>4710842
Why are you trying to hurt my feelings, anon? I didn't mean to upset anybody.

[Anonymous No.4711034]

>>4711025
>HURT MUH FEELINGS
GTFO R**DITOR

[Anonymous No.4711167]

>>4710842
>>4711034
>getting this triggered over a word
bump

[Anonymous No.4711308]

He's drawn the same girl for years without improving, so gonna go with "no"

[Anonymous No.4711358]

Look how he draws fabric and clothing.
I can't even.

[Anonymous No.4711378]

>>4711358
Mistakes aside, the design of the character is appealing. It’s easy to see why it’s popular.

[Anonymous No.4711389]

>>4711378
How is it appealing? It's some generic anime girl with reddit colors and cheek carcinomas

[Anonymous No.4711393]

>>4711389
You just answered your question.

[Anonymous No.4711395]

>>4711358
>>4711389
The color scheme is literally by the book appealing. The blue eyes color compliments the skin tone and cheeks, and you have the hair always contrasting with the black and white. That's literally his trick

[Anonymous No.4711397]

You could hue shift the colors to anything else and they'd still compliment each other. If he did not choose that color scheme then he probably would've gone unnoticed

[Anonymous No.4711402]

People use those simple tricks because they work.

[Anonymous No.4711431]

>>4711395
Yes but despite that I still find it an eyesore to look at. . All that excessive contrast and saturation is burning my retinas. The hairstyle in particular is awful in my opinion; it looks more like a helmet than hair. Just because they used a simple 2 color complimentary palette doesnt make this character appealing to me, it's like slapping sriracha on your shitty cooking: yeah it's edible but it's nothing to write home about.

[Anonymous No.4711495]

>>4711431
I think you’re letting your bias cloud your judgment. It sounds like you’re looking for reasons to not like it, because you don’t like him. This thread is the first I’ve heard of this guy, and while I agree with all the criticism regarding anatomy, I still find the character immediately appealing.

[Anonymous No.4711500]

>>4711431
>I don’t like it there for it’s bad

[Anonymous No.4711511]

>>4711431
You probably find it to be an eyesore because of the popularity attached to her. If she were a very niche character, you'd probably think she's whatever or you kinda like it with an unbiased opinion

[Anonymous No.4711625]

>>4711495
It sounds like you are projecting. How did you infer from what I wrote that I didnt like him, or know him at all?

>>4711500
opinions are subjective

>>4711511
But I find plenty of popular characters appealing. If anything this would be a niche character compared to many characters with huge fandoms behind them.

[Redditor No.4711764]

>>4710389
Where's your proof? He only ever drew those simple comics.

[Anonymous No.4711842]

>>4711625
>How did you infer from what I wrote that I didnt like him, or know him at all?
Because this is a thread specifically made to shit on the guy cause he’s popular among plebbitors and you seem well versed on his content.

[Anonymous No.4711843]

>>4711397
thanks doc

[Anonymous No.4711877]

>>4711842
>projecting so hard it can be a perspective drawing exercise
You know there is a difference between shitting on someone's art and shitting on said person right? So calling it appealing is valid but saying otherwise means some ulterior bias against the artist? Fuck back to whichever hugbox you came from.

[Anonymous No.4711905]

>>4711877
Just say you don’t like it. The anons gave their reasons why it’s appealing to them and to the plebbitors. Yea you gave your reasons why you didn’t like it, but you don’t dictate on what’s bad or not.

[Anonymous No.4711965]

>>4711905
Just say you had no reason to start shit besides wanting to be on your high horse. I made it very clear in >>4711431 that it's a personal opinion. For fucks sake, do they still teach reading in school these days? Must be a bliss cruising through life on a room temperature IQ.

[Anonymous No.4711978]

>>4711965
Just you had no reason to make this about you and your taste. The original question about this in the first place was why do people find this appealing, but here we are, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.4711983]

>>4711358
>tfw nobody on /ic/ can draw appealing anime faces like he does
Bros... we cant let reddit win...

[Anonymous No.4711995]

>>4711978
>NOOOoooOOO YOU CAN'T SHARE OPINIONS ABOUT ART ON A BOARD SPECIFICALLY MADE FOR CRITIQUING ART
you are objectively retarded, now dilate.

[Anonymous No.4712003]

>>4711995
>retard sperging the fuck out
Cope

[Anonymous No.4712013]

>>4712003
self aware are we?

[Anonymous No.4712037]

>>4711625
>How did you infer from what I wrote that I didnt like him, or know him at all?
Well is he wrong, do you like him?

[Anonymous No.4712042]

>>4711431
I agree with the heavy saturation. I'm not a fan of saturations, but that's probably because my eyesight isn't as bad as a lot of people who stare at their computer monitors for too long.

(I still wear reading and night glasses though.)

[Anonymous No.4712374]

the kodyboy of reddit

[Anonymous No.4712580]

>>4711358
fucking duckface

[Anonymous No.4712583]

Reddit won, bros
The dream is dead

[Anonymous No.4712592]

>>4708451
>>4708687
>>4709628
>>4710389
>>4711358
Is he even capable of drawing facial expressions other than this retarded smug grin?

[Anonymous No.4712597]

>>4712592
Give him a break, he'd only drawn the characters 69 times

[Anonymous No.4712600]

>>4712592
Nope, he is just a pygmalion retard.

[Anonymous No.4712605]

>>4708451
mmmm middle chest boob

[Anonymous No.4712609]

I've never cared about Srgrafo but seeing all those crabs seething almost makes me love him!

[Anonymous No.4712610]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEWYO-XXFos
Well I found his "tutorial" videos and they're about as awful as you'd expect

[Anonymous No.4712615]

>>4712605
>quikfixing anon fixed this
I bet he is in every thread

[Anonymous No.4712620]

>>4712610
>omg I am learning, I am so smart
fucking retard

[Anonymous No.4712632]

>>4712597
116 times at least.

[Anonymous No.4712641]

>>4712610
excellent end result

[Anonymous No.4712644]

>>4712610
He'd fit right in at /asg/

[Anonymous No.4712646]

>>4712641
I think half of /beg/ can do better and this cunt is """"teaching""" other retards
god I hate how internets made it so easy for narcissists to prosper and fool people

[Anonymous No.4712652]

>>4712610
First we had loomis, then riley, is he the next one?

[Anonymous No.4712653]

Damn ic is absolutly malding at this trash redditor's popularity
a normal human reaction when faced with injustice, he probably hasen't even read one loomis book or went through the full scott robertson perspective book and yet he gets all this money and attention

[Anonymous No.4712655]

>>4709779
So he makes what, 1,5 - 2k per month?
And you call that making it? Hahahaha.

[Anonymous No.4712659]

>>4712655
Guy's a third worlder. That amount of first world money for a little bit of effort (and something he actually likes doing)? Guy's living the dream and it's only gonna get better for him.

[Anonymous No.4712661]

>>4712641
Holy shit how long does he draw? Two weeks?

[Anonymous No.4712663]

>>4712661
several years at least

[Anonymous No.4712670]

>>4712641
It's appealing to look at it, that's all that matters.

[Anonymous No.4712682]

>>4712670
if you find that appealing then youre retarded

[Anonymous No.4712703]

>>4712670
Agreed. I have a fetish for girls with giant tumors and this is right up my alley.

[Anonymous No.4712718]

>>4712670
simp

[Anonymous No.4712735]

>>4712670
>appealing to look at,
which it isn't.

[Anonymous No.4712737]

>>4712682
>>4712703
>>4712718
>>4712735
pyw

[Anonymous No.4712742]

>>4712737
Sure, here's a quick sketch. I don't try to teach others how to draw, though

[Anonymous No.4712749]

>>4712742
Every fucking time.

[Anonymous No.4712755]

>>4712737

[Anonymous No.4712765]

>>4712755

[Anonymous No.4712766]

>>4712765
what did she mean by this

[Anonymous No.4712772]

>>4712655
That is making it desu, he’s making above minium wage from his art, wait until he starts selling merch.

[Anonymous No.4712775]

>>4712655
I can comfortably live on 300 USD a month. 2k is making it big time.

[Anonymous No.4712790]

>>4712775
And no. I'm not a third-worlder.

[Anonymous No.4712792]

>>4712775
>>4712790
>lives in US
>not a third worlder
nice try, burger-kun

[Anonymous No.4712797]

>>4712792
I'm not American. I just calculated how much I need to live comfortably, in USD.

[Anonymous No.4712802]

>>4712775
third world accountant here and I make less than 300usd net after all the living expenses and deductions. I will not hesitate to quit my job and throw away my 4 year university diploma if I could make 1k usd from coomerbux

[Anonymous No.4712816]

>>4712775
In the US you have to make 2k per month just to pay your rent and bills and barely scrape by. Where the fuck do you live that 300/month is comfy but you're not a third worlder? Because I really doubt it

[Anonymous No.4712826]

>>4712816
Eastern Europe. I don't pay rent. Utilities are low. I cook my food and don't eat that much anyway.

So if you wanna be anal about it, I'm a second worlder.

[Anonymous No.4712832]

>>4712775
>>4712790
Ok third world shitter

[Anonymous No.4712839]

>>4712826
Doesn't sound comfy but alright man you do you

[Anonymous No.4712841]

>>4712832
I wouldn't mind shitting in your mouth. Or your mother's.

[Anonymous No.4712842]

>>4712775
based povertybro, I would consider it a luxurious lifestyle if I made over 500 a month with art
yet trying to push your artwork on people and play the social media game is soul draining, guess that's why artists used to have agents

[Anonymous No.4712844]

>>4712737
His linework is better than mine, but I think my construction is better than his.

[Anonymous No.4712848]

>>4712842
I'm not poor, man. I've got more than 1500$ in savings. I'm just low maintenance.

[Anonymous No.4712859]

>>4712655
1-5k actually

[Anonymous No.4712865]

>>4712844
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO you faggots keep shitting on him but not even a single anon has posted art that is as good or better than his. Pathetic

[Anonymous No.4712869]

WE HAVE R**DITOR INFESTATION IN THIS THREAD, TAKE OUT YOUR LOOMIS MANUALS, LADS

[Anonymous No.4712870]

>>4712848
that's admirable desu, more people should learn to be frugal

[Anonymous No.4712872]

>>4712859
His highest patreon tier is 4.99, anything more than 2.5k isn’t possible.

[Anonymous No.4712873]

>>4712859
So 1k per month.

[Anonymous No.4712877]

>>4712844
You retards aren’t helping your case when you shit on his artwork, when yours is worse.

[Anonymous No.4712880]

>>4712865
>>4712877
kek

[Anonymous No.4712893]

>>4712865
>>4712877
There's some different standards at work here, king. We're just random shitters, but he's a shitter who makes "tutorials" although he can't draw.
Posting work in response to that anon's post is a futile exercise either way since all he - and those responding to him - did was stating a subjective opinion, so comparing technical quality makes no sense to begin with. Just a heads up, fellas.

[Anonymous No.4712902]

>>4712893
The Fuck is this reddit shit. Gtfo

[Anonymous No.4712904]

>>4712844
>>4712742
Holy shit look at these faggots tripping over themselves withe excuses. The forever NGTMI

[Anonymous No.4712910]

>>4712904
What excuses? It is exactly what it is. A quick sketch from yesterday to visualize a character concept I had in mind. I can get you something more polished if you can't cum to this.

[Anonymous No.4712912]

>>4712910
Quit fucking around and just post it.

[Anonymous No.4712913]

>>4712826
Second world sounds comfy af. If I could find a 1.5 World I think I’d be happy

[Anonymous No.4712914]

>>4712865
>>4712877
>>4712904
pyw

[Anonymous No.4712927]

>>4712913
I don't know what's the proper classification of Eastern Europe today, as there is no more Warsaw pact. That's why I said second world.

[Anonymous No.4712951]

REDDITOR OVERLORD DEMANDS TO DELETE THIS THREAD

>quickfixer was here

[Anonymous No.4712954]

>>4712902
Imagine writing anything other than
>ngmi
>cope
>seethe
>pym
>crab
fucking plebbitors shitting up this board

[Anonymous No.4712956]

>>4712954
let them die in vain

[Anonymous No.4712957]

Reddit has good porn and that's all that matters

[Anonymous No.4712971]

>>4712912
Tear me apart, anone.

[Anonymous No.4712974]

>>4712971
based work posting chad

[Anonymous No.4712979]

>>4708687
I would throw a brick if he came anywhere near me

[Anonymous No.4713150]

Had this guy in my recommended videos, most chinkshit tutorials are god tier so I was pretty intrigued. Turns out his drawings are kind of lackluster and his "tutorials" feel more like entertainement, which is sad because his topics were very relevant.

[Anonymous No.4713194]

This guy and Ethan Becker will lower the skill level of newer artists with their shit tutorials. /ic/ should be grateful, less competition for you.

[Anonymous No.4713243]

>>4713194
Ethan Baker bakes some low-tier poop bread aka draw with triangles.
Guess every /beg/ will be better than him

[Anonymous No.4713285]

>>4712957
Reddit has shitty porn but good porn reference photos

[Anonymous No.4713459]

>>4712610
>>4712641
I don’t know what it is but something makes the figure look plastic as fuck

[Anonymous No.4713559]

>>4713194
minecraft ass

[Anonymous No.4713648]

Brehs I don't give a fuck about any of this art shit I just like cute barefoot girls.

[Anonymous No.4713717]

>>4713648
fucking coomer

[Anonymous No.4713720]

>>4713717
>>4713717
lol true

[Anonymous No.4713733]

>>4713720
his shit is so bad that's easier to draw it from scratch than die trying to fix this abomination

[Anonymous No.4713757]

>>4708892
Kek, bloge?

[Anonymous No.4713795]

Every day i just think about drawing a fully rendered like 60 hour master study painting of this fucking oc having her liver torn out by eagles because this artist annoys me so much
I have better shit to do but. Every day. I swear to god

[Anonymous No.4713802]

>>4713733
>>4713733
desu there is no opinion you can have that can make me not like something that I like.
I swear this board sweats over accuracy so much it forgets the things that actually matter.

[Anonymous No.4713813]

>>4713802
There’s a reason why he made it, unlike retards like >>4712971 >>4712844
>>4712742 who can’t draw for shit and make money from their /beg/ tier art, kek.

[Anonymous No.4713915]

>>4713813
Two of the drawings in my compilation were paid commissions. P Y W

[Anonymous No.4713918]

>>4713795
take your fucking meds

[Anonymous No.4713931]

>>4713802
You like cave drawings too?
But they are far better, to be fair.

[Anonymous No.4713998]

>>4713931
Cave drawings were actually brilliant for the time they were created.

[Anonymous No.4714006]

>>4713915
god i hope not

[Anonymous No.4714020]

>>4713931
Yeah cave drawings are super interesting.

[Anonymous No.4714052]

>>4714006
>he says this but he is too ashamed to post his own work

[Anonymous No.4714064]

>>4714052

[Anonymous No.4714122]

>>4713998
>>4714020
That's what he said, cave drawings are far better than this plebbit trash coomer oc
>chad caveman artist: makes soulful story telling art that reveals a wealth of knowledge on ancient life tens of thousands of years later; has agency over what he makes.
>virgin plebbit oc artist: makes art to maximize coomerbux, leaving behind nothing of value when, soon enough, he fades away into insignificance, The masses to whom he panders dictates what he draws.

[Anonymous No.4714140]

>>4714064
LOL

[Anonymous No.4714152]

>>4711995
You’re right. Opinions aren’t meaningful art critique. Design is an actual learnable skill, and experienced artists are able to break down why designs work and don’t without resorting to “well I just don’t like it.”

You’re in an art critique board, not an echo chamber hugbox. If you wanna be taken seriously, learn to give actual critique instead of trying to pass off your opinions as meaningful feedback.

Are there problems with the anatomy and other technical aspects pf his art?
Yes.

But his character design skills (a separate skillset), at least in regard to his single waifu OC, are fairly competent. There’s a nice sense of balance and contrast, the color scheme is appealing, and there are enough unique subtleties to help it stand out.

[Anonymous No.4714165]

>>4712655
I live in Japan m8. 2k a month is a comfortable bachelor lifestyle in Tokyo. Go to the countryside and with that, you’re putting away decent savings every month too. I know several people here who you KILL to make that much a month for simply posting shit on the internet and not having to work a full-time job.

And Japan is about as first world as you can get, being the 3rd strongest economy in the world, but not in decay like Murrika, and not Communist like China.

[Anonymous No.4714167]

>>4712816
This only exemplifies how poor the standard of living is in the US when 2000$ a month is “just scraping by.” Well above the minimum wage income. While most of the rest of the world, 1000$ os enough to live comfortably.

[Anonymous No.4714191]

>>4714152
Okay so you are retarded?
I like how you pretend to know what you are talking about. Reading a blog post about color theory doesnt qualify you as an authority on design, smartass.

I disagree with you weak ass o p i n i o n too btw. I don't understand why you want to jerk this piece of mediocrity so hard.

[Anonymous No.4714207]

>>4708687
Trying to draw from the torso right now, but I didn't use his simplified skeleton. I think it's only faster for me since I usually stress the most about the head. It feels kinda weird, but it's not the worst.

[Anonymous No.4714274]

>>4714191
I’m not trying to jerk anything off, I simply said I understand why the character is popular among redditors, sorry that offended you cause you’re too busy being jealous of other people’s success, but people who have made it in art, don’t allow jealousy to cloud their judgement. My work btw:
chagoxchago.artstation.com

I suggest you learn the meaning of words like “Dunning Kruger” before blindly throwing them around like insults, as right now, you’re doing a much better job describing yourself than you are me.

[Anonymous No.4714313]

>>4709159
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.4714316]

>>4714274
Your work is pretty good, much better than the OP in question, so kudos to you. However, despite thinking so, you are clearly not at the level to arbitrate which critiques are valid or not -- so yes, I think dunning kruger describes you pretty well.

I don't understand why you keep circling back to jealousy, are you projecting because you are struggling with it?

Tell me something, out of 10, how would you rate your work and how would you rate this guy's OC?

[Anonymous No.4714330]

>>4708451
He should've sticked to the rimworld comics

[Anonymous No.4714352]

>>4714316
>However, despite thinking so, you are clearly not at the level to arbitrate which critiques are valid or not -- so yes, I think dunning kruger describes you pretty well.
Anon, I’ve been hired to do design work for animation, games, comics, and advertisement. Commissions ranging Ain the several thousands range. There comes a point where the valuation of paying clients is significantly higher than some nameless nobody on 4chan. There is no “required level to arbitrate” you’re either an experienced and paid professional, or not. End of story. Saying “I don’t like it” isn’t valid critique, nor can you fall back on “critique” to validate ripping apart someone’s work purely out of malice without any actual knowledge of what makes a design good or not. Conflating personal opinion with critique is a common mistake made by newbies who don’t understand design and are thus unable to effectively articulate their thoughts, moreover, as it’s been pointed out to you before by myself and several others, you’re letting external bias cloud your judgement, and not realizing it. This is why “it’s just my opinion bro” is such a terrible way to justify why you think something isn’t good, because “opinion” can be swayed by numerous psychological factors that have nothing to do with art or design. This is why I said “you’re jealous” because you clearly and evidently are, and trying to flip it around to and calling it “projection” in an attempt to divert attention isn’t gonna change the fact that you’re living clearly upset that a rather mediocre artist is more successful than you because they made a good character design and knew how to market themselves. I’m not going to go into the psychology behind all this, but news flash, success in art is just as dependent on networking as it is on raw skill.

[Anonymous No.4714357]

>>4714316
>>4714352
My advice to you, if you at least want to be taken seriously in regard to critique, learn design, and learn to break down why designs work and don’t at a fundamental level so you no longer have to rely on “but it’s my opinion bro.” Opinion isn’t critique, it’s opinion.

And with that, I leave this thread. I’ll leave you crabs to collectively bitch about why people who actually draw find more success than people who only shitpost on /ic/.

[Anonymous No.4714434]

>>4714352
So let me get this straight... not only are you a working professional artist, a certified art critic, you are also a board certified psychologist with the ability to read intentions behind text?

Yeah I am not buying that.

Pretty pathetic for you to come here and patronize on others because you have such a high opinion of yourself. You should take your own advice and remind yourself this is an open critique forum and isnt your personal ego stroking station. It's sad that you are gate-keep opinions on ic out of all places with "but muh commissions."

It's ironic that I was the only one to be able to stay on topic this whole time while you pulled strawman after strawman. Maybe you are the one with the clouded judgement.

This has been truly amusing, thanks for showing me a good time, mr. professional-that-made-it. Since you read this far ( anD I’m nOT GOING to GO INTO tHE pSYChoLoGY BEhIND THat), I ll be happy to oblige you in more conversation should you seek it.

[Anonymous No.4714439]

>>4714357
>And with that, I leave this thread.
i love when people say this shit. nigga you still in here

[Anonymous No.4714445]

>>4709628
Based falseflag tutorial artist

[Anonymous No.4714475]

I rubbed one off to Chloe. I'm horny as fuck.

[Anonymous No.4714505]

I find him really unfunny but I think it would be hilarious if people just made /pol/ edits of them. But I don't have a problem with his waifu art, it's really not as offensive as you guys are making it out to be.

[Anonymous No.4714511]

>>4713795
Do it. You won’t because you don’t have the skill.

[Anonymous No.4714595]

>>4711358
>Drawing practice #110

So like 100 more drawings than what 99% of /ic/ will do in their entire life, he's GMI eventually.

[Anonymous No.4714665]

>>4714274
>mfw this guy unironically fell for the "just moooove to japan and instantly become a mangaka" meme.

>mfw hes bragging about commissions in the severals of thousands of yen

daily reminder this is the type of person act like hot shit on this board.

[Anonymous No.4714677]

>>4714665
s e e t h i n g

[Anonymous No.4714903]

>>4712641
Wow, you guys weren't kidding about his skills.
Maybe I can do well if the bar is this low.
I need to throw my hat into the ring, but just one problem, I hate reddit, social media and everyone that frequents it.

[Anonymous No.4715037]

>>4708466
His Rimworld comics are honestly not that great. It feels like he's jumping from one idea to another, doesn't know where he's going, some of his character interactions just don't make sense, a lot of his stuff is banking on "ha gotcha", and giving his totally not an insert character Tynan too much plot armor. He has claimed he has planned this out, but it feels he wants a bunch of ideas crammed into a tiny space.

[Anonymous No.4715241]

>>4714903
>I need to throw my hat into the ring, but just one problem, I hate reddit, social media and everyone that frequents it.
Fuck, I really don't want to make reddit account and throw my shit there, but I think there is no other way huh? I hate all social medias but without it I guess I am fucked.

[Anonymous No.4715322]

>>4715241
Even reddit can't save your ugly art /beg/

[Anonymous No.4715363]

>>4715322
damn you dubs of truth

[Anonymous No.4715713]

Lmao this fucking thread
All the posts about how you will never earn money if you don't adhere to Sacred Texts by Lord Loomis, all the threads about having spent years grinding fundies, with everyone consoling one another that a few more years of boxes and they will Make It™, and anybody that isn't autistically attached to the Holy Books are NGMI©
Lo and behold, a dude with the skill of a mid-level /asg/ poster shows up, and reminds /ic/ of a brutal truth - your soulless, but perfectly crafted, pieces will never sell as good as well-marketed pieces of someone having genuine fun
Salesmanship > art skill, welcome to capitalism bitch

[Anonymous No.4715742]

>>4715713
>B-but you’ll never earn the respect of /ic/

[Anonymous No.4715746]

>>4715713
Anime girls showing skin is popular. Never would have guessed.

>>4715742
You are better off waiting for the sun to explode because at least that would happen eventually, even if we are all long dead.

[Anonymous No.4715895]

>>4709628
>draw from imagination

[Anonymous No.4715942]

>>4715895
>Drawing from references is cheating! You must draw everything from your own imagination and use poorly drawn construction lines!
>Bro, do you even know what the human body looks like? Here’s a reference image you forever NGMI!

[Anonymous No.4716217]

>>4715942
A good draftsman is meant to reference complex anatomy and be capable of reposing it from imagination. But most idiots are limited to tracing photos and still manage to get the anatomy rediculously wrong.

[Anonymous No.4716243]

>>4716217
>A good draftsman is meant to reference complex anatomy and be capable of reposing it from imagination
LITERALLY WRONG

[Anonymous No.4716529]

>>4716243
Explain.

[Anonymous No.4716936]

>>4708451
>upper pectodeltoid muscle

>>4708687
>thoracivaginal muscle

>>4709628
>rectus mammatus muscle

this is ADVANCED anatomy

[Anonymous No.4717055]

>>4708687
I'm dying to know the "hand trick"

[Anonymous No.4717606]

>>4717055
You still doing the hand trick?
God, what is that?
What is that?

~ah... hoi...

[Anonymous No.4718129]

>>4717055
It's the "middle and ring fingers as one" trick