Eurocomics thread

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In this thread, we all share works of great comics artists and old masters from France, Belgium, Italy or South American countries. Old masters like Moebius, Druillet or Enki Bilal are accepted as well as newer talents like Kerascoet.

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>>4707221
Why the fuck are the Titan Comics distributions of Elric so goddamn expensive. I bought Ruby Throne for like 7$ back in the day, and now it’s worth like 200$. I’m noticing all Elric-related things to be going up in price all of the sudden. What the fuck happened?

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Sergio Toppi

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>>4707424
Based, what are some of his best stories?

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619 is a Frog Label, good stuff

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French manga from a dude I went to artschool with, good stuff aswell

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Enrico Marini

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>>4707461
I’ve seen him stream on twitch. Really like his stuff! Can’t speak French tho... is the story good?

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>>4707432
they are releasing collections with his work. search for sergio toppi on getcomics

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>>4707466
>Enrico Marini
draw-goals right there

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>>4707567
he sketches using black colored pencils and paints with watercolors and brushes. follow him on instagram, he often uploads vids of him painting, but only short ones.

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Roberto Raviola (Magnus)

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>>4707636
Ahah the italian text instantly gave me a "Salo and the 120 days of Sodom" vibe.

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Philippe Druillet

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>>4707461
>It's in French
What a waste

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>>4707605
>paints with watercolors and brushes

Marini uses liquid acrylics for comics, I don't remember the brand, but I remember that he has these big bottles of cyan, ochre and red. Manuele Fior used acrylics too for 5000 km per seconds

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>>4708901
It's Magic Color inks, an UK brand.

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Roger Ibanez

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More Roger

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Jean Giraud - Blueberry

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>>4709137
Is this something like acrylic ink or some other sort of acrylic paint?

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>>4709157
It's transparent acrylic ink, I have some here, they dry like acrylics, darker and not saturated.

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More Marini

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>>4709148
Crazy how, when you're a kid, you just read those comics casualy, taking any picture for granted without realising the huge amount of talent. Looking back at these with a trained adult eye is simply awe inspiring.

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Alfonso Font

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Daniel Torres

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Joost Swarte

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Jordi Bernet

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Jean-Claude Mezieres (his comic Valerian was said to be an influence on Star Wars)

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>>4713902
>his comic Valerian was said to be an influence on Star Wars
and much like every page here outside of the porn, if it were made today it would have 5 readers on Tapas

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>>4713951
sometimes I think this is a cope just to make crappy work. Sure, p0rn reels readers in, but it doesn't mean we need to be making crap.

[Anonymous No.4714125]

>>4713951
>tfw this is most likely true
No one fucking reads comics anymore.

[Anonymous No.4714206]

>>4714125
wah wah ... Just make what you love and put it out in the universe. There's enough manga and webcomics making money to show there's a market, no matter how niche. Just find where you fit and run with it.

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Paolo Serpieri

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>>4714206
>just waste your time working hard on things nobody will even click on for an indefinite amount of time
>it's not like I'm the one who has to do it, or ever actually tried doing it anyway :^)

[Anonymous No.4714637]

>>4714522
Don't get it twisted, I'm not saying marketing isn't a factor. And you'll probably need some coom to get people in the door. But to whine that no one reads comics and that you need to be furry trap artist #1,725,450 to make it is bullshit (as if creating unique QUALITY work won't differentiate you from the competition).

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Alberto Breccia

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>>4714637
>you don't have to draw coom to make it, just draw some coom first
wow 30000 IQ take anon I am impressed

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Alberto Breccia, Perramus

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>>4714637
Way to prove his point

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>>4715597
Pornfags should be put in a containment board. They give advice to artists when they haven't even dipped their toes into anything that isn't porn. The problem with these people is they're massively out of touch. They think porn is just "better" art, that's why it does better, not that it's super ultra easy mode on training wheels because it has nothing to do with artwork.
I guarantee that all the people telling you that drawing original content will net you anything if "you market yourself" (which means nothing since all they know is drawing porn and fanart like the parasotoids they are) have never, NEVER actually tried worked on anything vaguely original. They just don't get how fucking stupid it is when you don't go down the easy route.
/ic/ is all talk.

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>>4715568
read the thread again, I never said that drawing coom wasn't beneficial.

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>>4715624
>Sure, p0rn reels readers in, but it doesn't mean we need to be making crap.
>you'll probably need some coom to get people in the door.
maybe check what you write

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>>4715626
What's the contradiction? You can reel people in with erotic content and keep them with quality work (erotic or not). Much of the great work in this very thread has sex in it.

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>>4715630
>Much of the great work in this very thread has sex in it.
And those parts are what's getting posted.
Have you done it? Why do you talk about stuff you know jack shit about? People stop following when you stop drawing what reeled you in. Even fanart works like that. You are out of touch and talking out of your ass. Keep drawing porn but please, shut the fuck up when it comes to art.

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>>4715649
I know because I'm the audience for it. I was reeled in by sexy content, then appreciated the artist's style/vision in other work.
Much European work is like this. Also many mangaka made the transition from hentai to manga (or worked in both, see Masamune Shirow).
The problem with online burgers is that they make too much of a distinction between NSFW & SFW. Many great artists have had coomer art in their versatile body of work. There's a false dichotomy developing over this shit.

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>>4715675
>I know because I'm the audience for it.
Oh I see, you're a man of taste and culture who won't pick up a thing if there are no tits on the cover. Amazing, can you post a picture of your Appleseed collection since you like Shirow?
Let me try for the 6th time to make original work, I'll try to keep in mind to cater to people like you this time.
Holy shit, you people are something. The absolute state of this planet.

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>>4715706
Why so mad bro? Because people like sex? We agree on the point that it sells. Artists just have to either work with or around that reality.

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>>4715721
>Why so mad bro? Because people like sex? We agree on the point that it sells. Artists just have to either work with or around that reality.
It's not this that is depressing, it's that you started off this conversation with
>sometimes I think this is a cope just to make crappy work. Sure, p0rn reels readers in, but it doesn't mean we need to be making crap.
Then when someone who actually tried hard comes out of the woodwork and says it's bullshit you grasp at straws and your whole argument crumbles. Audiences now consume porn and lowbrow trash 24/7 yet at the same time believe in this fantasy where different, original work can still survive, or that you can make "quality" work that at the same time is injected with things that make it inherently dumb and shitty. You probably just think that "quality" work is well drawn porn or something.
And you didn't read Appleseed. Chances are you didn't even look at Shirow's oily porn, you just keep the name at hand when you need to make examples, just like your average otaku who consumes bouncy tits 24/7 but always keeps Akira at the ready when someone says anime is shit.
It's not the state of things, it's the constant lying between one's teeth permeating all of it that make me so disgusted.

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>>4715738
>Audiences now consume porn and lowbrow trash 24/7 ...
When has it ever been different? Most of the popular art from most eras has been lowbrow, the best popular artists manage to create good work in lowbrow, pulp mediums (EC Comics, classic Marvel, even manga is a lowbrow, cheaply printed medium).
Porn is just more consumed now because it is more easily available.

>or that you can make "quality" work that at the same time is injected with things that make it inherently dumb and shitty.
Sex is inherently dumb and shitty? Sex is an essential part of the human condition.

>You probably just think that "quality" work is well drawn porn or something.
Great artistry goes into well drawn porn (mastery of anatomy, facial expressions, etc. is required), and the more sophisticated stuff here reflects literary tradition (Serpieri is at least aware of De Sade).

>And you didn't read Appleseed. Chances are you didn't even look at Shirow's oily porn, you just keep the name at hand when you need to make examples ...
Most of my collection consists of classic American comic strips like Krazy Kat, EC Comics, Warren, Vampirella, Bernie Wrightson, Crumb, and my personal fave Wally Wood (who did great porn btw).
I have "looked at" Shirow's oily porn btw.

>It's not the state of things, it's the constant lying between one's teeth permeating all of it that make me so disgusted.
You sound like you just have a hang up about porn anon. But don't worry, there's always the Jake Parker route, it's just a steeper climb.

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>>4707461
this has a very nice Euro-Japan feels to it I like it,

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>>4715828
>great artistry goes into porn
>mastery of facial expressions
thanks for saving me some time
you win btw, I eventually quit trying
enjoy your porn

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>>4715575
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Got it in english?

Good HP adaptions are hard to find.

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>>4716551
Naw, pretty sure most of his Lovecraft stuff hasn't been translated to English (yet).

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>>4715617
this this board mightaswell be called coomerart

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>>4716731
yeah, what a diversion—back to the point of the thread: Euro coomer art!
Milo Manara

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Why are threads here always derailed by coomers and moralfags, kek.

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Philippe Caza

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don't you die

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>>4707457
Puta Madre, Muthafuckaz and The Grocery are made by Guillaume Singelin and publish under Label 619. Personnally I recommend The Grocery above all else (though Muthafuckaz had a movie adaptation and I have yet to read it) really love his storytelling

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Good thread OP, but there is more to french comics than hyper-realistic and/or pr0n. /ic/ often critic "muh style" but if you're only looking for the more realistic styles, you're missing out on a lot of good modern comics.

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>>4724320
what is the name of this comic?

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>>4724322
Kairos by Ulysse Malassagne. Has 3 books and is complete. The style look simple but the guy is a talented animator and it shows.

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>>4724347
thank you! I will check it out I love artstyles like these

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>>4724350
Anything by this guy is pretty good but I don't know if it has been translated. Otherwise I recommend Bouletcorp and Kerascoet (Beauty) for more original art styles

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>>4724357
thanks! I read beautiful darkness which was illustrated by kerascoet and loved it bought it twice irl (one for my best friend)

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Juan Gimenez

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>>4724320
>male character is not driving
dropped in 1 panel, wow