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You can watch manga artists draw and they don’t use it

>> No.4700485

>>4700484
Why are you people so adamant you must ride a bike with 2 hands on the bars? You can watch my uncle ride with no hands.

>> No.4700489

they use construction in their mental process.

>> No.4700493

>>4700484
I watched a bunch of videos from Marc Brunet and he starts drawing from a detailed nostril, adds the detailed face to the nose, detailed body and a detailed background to the face.

Try doing that, see if you can.

Constructions are the training wheels for the people who can't just eyeball a detailed finished piece in their head.

>> No.4700497

>>4700493
>Marc Brunet

He’s a texture/3D artist and conman. Opinion discarded.

>> No.4700498

>>4700493
Oh ok that makes sense, thanks bro

>> No.4700503

>>4700497
classic ngmi move

>> No.4700505

>>4700503

see how far not constructing/not planning will get you

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>>4700484
You posted Murata. If you have seen his streams you should know that he uses construction when he is working with dynamic scenes where he wants to keep consistency throughout the panels. He doesn't use it when he is drawing something simple for him otherwise he would even use references like that time he used photo of his assistant in a shirt and pants standing up from a table as a reference for King.

>> No.4700544

>>4700484
you're not murata bro

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>>4700493
Go watch his videos from 7 years ago he's using construction. You do not need to use construction, you don't even need to learn construction. However it is an easy to understand way of learning to draw freehand.

>> No.4700594

>>4700484
They don't fucking use it because they've been drawing before you were born

>> No.4700606

>>4700571
Why do you bother hanging around this crab bucket of a board nat

>> No.4700615

>>4700484
If you feel like you don’t need to use construction, then don’t use it and see if that works out for you. Depending on your skill level and how long you’ve been drawing, you might not actually need it. At the end of the day, getting the results you want is what matters. But you gotta be honest with yourself: if you find your proportions are off, or you characters are leaning weird, or the perspective is wrong... in that case then you gotta own up to the fact you’re not mangaka level just yet.
Or like I said, maybe you are idk how good you draw dude. Do whatever the fuck you want to do. But the fact is 99% of beginners benefit from construction.

>> No.4700629

>>4700615
Thanks for the response I think I was just confused and didn’t understand it was a tool and assumed people here meant overly anal construction was used for every single drawing or you’re doing it wrong

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>>4700484
Construction is only important for traditional art where you have to get it roughly right in the first try.

Digitally you can use silhouettes, sculpt like sinix and liquify. Construction just isn't important in digital since you can actively fix your mistakes until it looks good

>> No.4701213

>>4700484
When you get good you can do the construction in your mind

>> No.4701227

>>4700485
using analogies won't make you sound smart, you just sound retarded.

>> No.4701232

>>4701227
Back off, kid.

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CONSTRUCT IN YOUR HEAD YOU IDIOTS

>> No.4701277

>>4701227
Did you not understand the analogy

>> No.4701319

>>4700571
My point was that he doesn't use them because he's an expert with mad experience and that Anon probably can't do that.

Anon should just try doing it, see that he can't and appreciate how useful constructions are for him.

>> No.4701398

>>4700484
>You can watch manga artists draw and they don’t use it
Because they've drawn thousands of pages.

>> No.4701527

Someone post a construction guide.

>> No.4701534

>>4701527
Vilppu drawing manual.

>> No.4701540

>>4700571
They look so soft...

>> No.4701549

>>4700484
BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DRAWING FOR AGES. THEY'VE INTERNALIZED EVERYTHING THERE IS ABOUT THE HUMAN BODY. THEY CONSTRUCT THE BODY IN THEIR MIND.
YOU'RE JUST A STUPID PIECE OF SHIT NOOBIE SO YOU NEED CONSTRUCTION. IT'S TO HELP YOU GET TO THAT LEVEL DUMB FUCK AHHHH. IT'S TO HELP YOU WHY DO YOU IDIOTS KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS THAT WILL HELP YOUU

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>>4701534
Based!!!