/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.4695146]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0
https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

Previous Thread:
>>4675897

[Anonymous No.4695212]

anyone have any success using the /asg/ trick?

[Anonymous No.4695216]

>>4695146
pretty op

[Anonymous No.4695226]

>>4695212
What's the /asg/ trick?

[Anonymous No.4695229]

>>4695226
When you're at /asg/ together make sure he knows you cannot draw anime girls.
When posting, find a picture of an anime girl, gaze at it with consternation and exclain sadly:

"I absolutely can't draw anime girls"

There is almost a 100% chance your guy will respond with "Why not? You don't like anime girls?

Be silent for a few seconds for dramatic effect and continue: "I... well" (take a pause) “Every time an anime girl is drawn badly, they suffer! Those cute little anime girls… I can’t bear to think about it! They’ll never get a chance to be on the front page of pixiv, to be rolled for in a gacha…” It is good to shiver at this point.

Your guy will gaze at you in amazement! What a kind, sensitive angelic person you are! Next he will be feeling the need to spend the time to really get to know you. He’s yours! Plans for a date are in the bag!

When you start going out with him, no doubt you will find yourselves at a similar thread where you can draw anime girls. You’ve got to know each other well enough, but of course he is going to ask. “Didn’t you say you couldn’t draw anime girls?”

It is safe enough to blow it off with a “I’m OK with it now”, or “Oh, I got used to it”, or even a “Did I say that?…tehe-pero!”

[Anonymous No.4695275]

what the fuck

[Anonymous No.4695536]

it was funnier in my head.

[Anonymous No.4696020]

>>4695536
Why is she crying?

[Anonymous No.4696107]

>>4696020
why are you?

[Anonymous No.4696195]

Can I get some recommendations for artists that actually draw noses (cute/sexy girls)?

[Anonymous No.4696253]

>>4695536
I like it. Then again I'm a sick fuck.

[Anonymous No.4696457]

>>4696195
>>4673395

[Anonymous No.4696666]

>>4695146
/asg/ is slowly dying. BASED

[Anonymous No.4696847]

>>4696666
no it's not, with grey sketch tranny dead this thread can have some peace again

[Anonymous No.4696996]

I did a bunch of studies of hands from FLCL. I tried to focus on the more stylized, action-oriented poses so I could pick up on the animator's shorthand

[Anonymous No.4697166]

can someone here tell me who made this pic from op a few threads ago?

[Anonymous No.4697182]

>>4697166
AI

[Anonymous No.4697183]

>>4697182
please a link to his twitter or something?

[Anonymous No.4697300]

>>4697166
https://twitter.com/55301puri/ i think : )

i really like their stuff

[Anonymous No.4697331]

>>4697300
ah thank you so much kinda anon

[Anonymous No.4697543]

>>4696996
I did a few more hand studies from FLCL tonight.

[Anonymous No.4697836]

Thoughts? I felt like it looked okayish but then seeing all the other redraws, even the ones with no likes made me feel pretty shit.

[Anonymous No.4697875]

>>4697836
You need more lineweight variation and the shadows on the skin need to be a little darker, they’re too subtle for this style.

[Anonymous No.4697958]

>>4697875
So like letting off the pen pressure at the end of a line that doesn't connect?
And yeah I see what you mean about the shadows

[Anonymous No.4697985]

>>4697958
By using both thick and thin lines to make it more dynamic. The brush your using right now either has the stabilization turned way up or doesn’t really account for how much pressure you’re using.

[Anonymous No.4697999]

Took me way too long

Last study . >>4695740 (not /asg)

[Anonymous No.4698063]

[Anonymous No.4698417]

Question: I think my line art looks nicer when I enable pressure>opacity and pressure>size. But when I color the drawing, the opacity makes things look bad because the color underneath interacts with the opacity of the lines and makes it look weird and inconsistent. And when I don't use it my lines look really thick, rigid, and amatuerish, idk, I'm confused.

I notice a lot of good artists use pressure>opacity but their art still looks clean and perfect, some don't seem to use it but still looks fine. What do? I'm confused.

[Anonymous No.4698657]

>>4698417
>And when I don't use it my lines look really thick
Are you keeping pressure size on? Also maybe try duplicating and stacking the line layer then adjust opacity just for kicks and see if it looks any better colored.

[Anonymous No.4698806]

>Actually went through 1000 pages of copy paper
>Break open a new stack of 1000
>I can see the difference of color of the paper, old pages are actually slightly yellowed compared to pristine white of the new ones
My improvement has been marginal however, almost non existant. Would definetly recommend to anyone who isn't braindead and anti-talented like me.

[Anonymous No.4698905]

>>4697543
I drew some faces from FLCL too. I tried to focus on expressions I thought were interesting.
>>4697836
what does the reference look like? the body and background seem fine, it's just the face that's a little janky. doing a couple of studies on how Toriyama stylizes faces could help a bunch
>>4697999
keep drawing, man. just bust out as many of these as you can, and try something new with each one. really push them, and even if it looks wonky and not very appealing, follow through to the end before scrapping it and moving on
>>4698063
cute, the simple values work pretty well. it wouldn't hurt to tie it down a little more, there's a lot of implied appeal that could use some definition
>>4698417
it's hard to say, but copying art that you like to break down their process and figure out how they make it work could help. if you're aiming for the style in the picture you posted, they're using a very thin solid black line with no opacity. simple, clean lines look deceptively easy, but there's a lot of super subtle line thickness changes here that make the drawing work. posting your work might help too

[Anonymous No.4699141]

>>4698905
>what does the reference look like?
The face is kinda weird from this angle as what's obscured by the finger doesn't really make sense, but yeah I definitely see a few things that are off.
Those eye-eyebrow shapes look really simple but somehow they're really hard to get right

[Anonymous No.4699210]

>>4698905
Keep it up, hope you see progress in your own work.
I keep some of your stuff you post as inspiration and reference for what to capture!

[Anonymous No.4699238]

>>4698806
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4699393]

>>4698417
Usually you stack up the line art layer once or twice or duplicate it and multiple because of the reason you noticed. Also put an opaque layer under your colors. Lines tend to not work that well with just opacity pressure jitter.

Your pic is unrelated and effectively black or close to it. Line art is typically not pressure opacity jittered for inking purposes but there are some styles it can work with mostly hard round, those use some flat layer underneath though so as not to be affected by opacity.

[Anonymous No.4699408]

>>4699393
>Also put an opaque layer under your colors.
>those use some flat layer underneath though so as not to be affected by opacity.
Not quite sure what you mean by this. Wouldn't painting under a line (and over the opaque layer) cause it to interact with the line art with opacity jitter anyway?

[Anonymous No.4699427]

>>4699408
post whatever you mean as an example. the flat underneath still helps the linework to not be affected as much. whatever you think is opaque may even be them painting over the line art with a soft brush to match the local color.

[Anonymous No.4699446]

>>4699427
Hm maybe something like this? The lines are well defined but at the same time they are soft, sometimes thin or transparent looking, with no weird colors from underneath bleeding into them and spoiling the lines.

[Anonymous No.4699451]

>>4699446
All of those lines are opaque and nothing how you described. It just looks like colored line art.

[Anonymous No.4699460]

>>4699451
Hm maybe I'm too new to understand the techniques then. It looks thinner and lighter in some spots, so I assumed it's opacity jitter. So i guess you're saying it's not opacity jitter but maybe just size jitter, and they're painting over the opaque lines to give them a different effect? I see thanks, I guess drawing with opacity jitter is a different technique altogether.

[Anonymous No.4699703]

>>4698905
I did another polished up illustration to try and solidify my studies a little
>>4699141
ah, yeah, you got the gist of the pose down which is the important part. a lot of anime/cartoon styles are so specific with how they're drawn that even just a few misplaced lines can make it look off model. it's not very forgiving! I think doing some analytical drawings of still lives and stuff should help strengthen your eye for drawing correct angles and proportions. you've got the same lines, it's just their relationship to each other that's off
>>4699210
thanks man, if you're the same guy who's been suggesting stuff then I appreciate your help!

[Anonymous No.4699969]

Some scribbles and practice, all heavily referenced (copied, pretty much).

I'm pretty sure I need to start drawing from imagination (or at the very least memory) if I want to get better at all, but it's just so intimidating and frustrating. I start drawing something and it looks like such complete shit that I can't stand looking at it anymore and scrap it.

[Anonymous No.4700193]

would it be weird if i'd do faces like this?
I always liked putting eyes very low like this but get my heads made fun of

[Anonymous No.4700349]

>>4700193
only if you keep the nose at that size

[Anonymous No.4700584]

>>4700193
>where do you workout?
>the library

if you like it that way then you should just keep it and focus on improving anything else

Just don't end up like pic related

[Anonymous No.4700661]

[Anonymous No.4700752]

>>4700661
By the year 2030 you'll finally start working on lineart and colors

[Anonymous No.4701819]

>>4698905
Nice, how long does it take you to finish a page of studies? As a beginner something like pic related takes me about an hour, even more when polishing.
I'm guessing I should focus more on quantity than quality at this point.

[Anonymous No.4701820]

>>4701819
Forgot image

[Anonymous No.4701829]

>>4701819
You've got it backwards. Quality over quantity, speed will come with experience. You want to be drawing good stuff fast eventually, not shit stuff fast, right?

[Anonymous No.4701844]

>>4701829
I get what you mean, but my heavy perfectionism slows down everything. I feel like I'd be better off filling pages with shit than spending hours on a single turd. At least I would build my mental library faster.

[Anonymous No.4701852]

>>4701844
I understand but it will speed things up. You can try gesture drawing if you want to do lots of fast shit. And if it's about building up your visual library, search xuu shrimp method how to draw anything. Use that method for visual library.

Drawing slowly is the way to go. You'll get faster as you get used to it and learn from your mistakes. It's just how it is. Don't worry about how long it's taking you and worry more about learning to construct things accurately

[Anonymous No.4701899]

>>4701852
Thanks for the pointers. I'll just keep at the same pace then and pray for improvement.
Also that xuu shrimp method is an eye opener. Makes me feel like I haven't been practicing the right way up to this point.

[Anonymous No.4701969]

>>4701819
>>4701820
a page of studies like that usually takes me a little over an hour or so, and sometimes a bit longer if I'm having trouble finding good references within an episode. I do generally go for quantity over quality. though I try to get it pretty accurate to what's on the screen, I don't fuss too much over it if it's kinda janky. I'm more focussed on emulating the style and the proportions than I am on construction, so I find that pumping out a bunch of them quickly is better for developing a feel for the animator's shorthand. sorta like building an intuition for how things should look.
as a beginner I'm not sure what's best to focus on. spending time being really analytical and nailing down the construction is important for understanding. doing quick sketches to develop a style or a 'mode' for drawing is also important, since it'll inform your studies. if you're going to spend a long time on a drawing, I'd put more emphasis on getting the construction and proportions right rather than polish. if you're going to go for quantity, I would do a lot of varied studies on a consistent subject matter

[Anonymous No.4702069]

>>4701969
I'll try sets of long-short sessions and see where they lead me.

>I don't fuss too much over it if it's kinda janky
I should really get into that mindset instead of hammering out every little mistake.

[Anonymous No.4702187]

[Anonymous No.4702379]

>>4702187
Can you give me a reference? Nice work though.

[Anonymous No.4702402]

>>4702379
(Kansai! Kemoket 8) [Tenshin Anman (Sanjiro)] Kemo Gal ni Aisarete Moto no Sekai ni Kaerenai

[Anonymous No.4702500]

>>4702402
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.4702764]

pic related, how do you make ultra thin line art?

do they just paint first and line art later?
draw thick lines and reduce it later using tools?
or is this just some next level shit

[Anonymous No.4702791]

Anyone got any good references for male anime heads? I know they're a bit longer and sharper than female ones but whenever I draw them it always looks messed up

[Anonymous No.4702822]

>>4702791
what kind of males? Ojiisan? bishounen? shota? bara? there's lots of different styles

[Anonymous No.4702832]

>>4702764
are you retarded, this is just normal line art but thin

[Anonymous No.4702941]

>>4702791
just draw a girl and call it male

[Anonymous No.4702951]

>>4702822
i guess the closest one i am looking for is bishounen

[Anonymous No.4703025]

>>4702764
Just be good with sensitivity, or alternatively sculp your lines with eraser

[Anonymous No.4703172]

>>4702764
It's drawn using the Apple iPad Pro 12.9.
It's the only device that accurately creates perfect lineart.

[Anonymous No.4703226]

IM SICK AND TIRED OF NOT BEING ABLE TO DRAW ANIME
HOW DO THEY DO IT IS IT GENETICS
WHY ISNT THERE A NMA/WATTS SPECIFICALLY FOR ANIME
AAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.4703244]

>>4703226
just draw boxes brah

[Anonymous No.4703430]

>>4703172
Bullshit.

[Anonymous No.4703468]

>>4703430
The Apple iPad Pro 12.9 has absolutely no parallax issues whatsoever, you are drawing exactly and precisely on the glass itself.
The Apple Pencil also draws ink in direct contact with the Apple iPad Pro 12.9 screen, unlike other, lesser, methods that rely on random magnetic fields.
This is why nothing else matches the Apple iPad Pro 12.9 in lineart.

[Anonymous No.4703472]

>>4703468
Not even high end tablets designed for this type of work?

[Anonymous No.4703492]

>>4703226
How long have you been trying ?

[Anonymous No.4703498]

>>4698905
Wholesome poster.

[Anonymous No.4703502]

Is it a good idea to re-do sketches? Like I just drew something with a reference, and I kind of what to redo it once a day until it looks decent.

[Anonymous No.4703926]

>>4703502
It's good idea to redo sketches, but don't obsessed with it.
Once a day until it looks decent is obsessed with it.
Redo if you found too much spots to improve.
Or just come back to it when you think you had improved a lot.

[Anonymous No.4703936]

Ahh I see this place is still filled with crabs.
Guess it will never change.

[Anonymous No.4704019]

trying to nail down muh style. and decide how i want my characters faces to look. so i did some nose and face studies

[Anonymous No.4704022]

>>4704019

[Anonymous No.4704029]

>>4703936
Go away and spare us your bitching and moaning

[Anonymous No.4704038]

>>4702791
Find bishounend artists and study them. Trace construction over their faces, analyze what makes it different from female faces

[Anonymous No.4704042]

>>4704038
>bishounen*
im a retarded phoneposter

[Anonymous No.4704063]

>>4704029
Found the crab.
Just a easy effortless bait and it came crawling right out of his shit hole.

[Anonymous No.4704084]

>>4704063
Found the crab
Just coming to bitch and moan about everyone and never speak of art
Go back to the Pol and Twitter threads

[Anonymous No.4704087]

>>4704084
Lol y u so mad?

[Anonymous No.4704296]

>>4704063
You just confirmed the effect bruh

[Anonymous No.4704410]

>>4703226
it's called eightstudio or something, everyone that comes out of it is a pro animefag
but it's korean

[Anonymous No.4704631]

Does her head look too weird?
I wanted to do a style similar to んも(https://twitter.com/nanmokaken))
where he makes the cranium large and the facial features lower on the face.

[Anonymous No.4704708]

>>4704631
>Does her head look too weird?
yes
looks almost like an ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.4704720]

>>4704631
your typesetting is fucking awful because the lines are so short and yes, her head looks bad. i know you posted that image earlier, but it looks laughable

[Anonymous No.4704728]

>>4704720
>>4704708
But i want to do heads like this.
Could you tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm pretty sure I got the proportions right to this.

[Anonymous No.4704733]

>>4704631
>>4704728
your eyes are too far apart, thats why it doesn't look good

[Anonymous No.4704736]

>>4704728
you're drawing literal egg heads. that pic's head is a sphere. the body proportions are more adultlike in >>4700193

[Anonymous No.4706245]

>>4695146

[Anonymous No.4706254]

>>4704631
I hate you.

[Anonymous No.4706258]

>>4706245
i was drawing characters from "here is greenwood"

[Anonymous No.4706559]

>>4699703
that's really good

[Anonymous No.4706620]

>>4695146
Alright you fucks, what character rakes in as many numbers as possible?

[Anonymous No.4706663]

>>4706620
it doesn't matter if you don't draw or draw well lol

[Anonymous No.4706870]

>>4706620
gerudo link

[Anonymous No.4707332]

Should the eye on the left be bigger and /or closer to the nose?

[Anonymous No.4707347]

>>4707332
Resized and fixed contrast

[Anonymous No.4707412]

>>4707347

[Anonymous No.4707479]

>>4706620
Any FGO bitch, the ship bitches and its derivatives, the "only popular because demon waifus" game.

basically anything that's female, or resembles it. Make sure to also appeal to coomers to maximize profits

[Anonymous No.4707493]

hello anons https://www.pixivision.net/en/a/1733

[Anonymous No.4707499]

>>4707493
These headlights of hers are disturbing.

[Anonymous No.4707516]

>>4706620
Beats me, go look up some English speaking fanartist with 100k followers and copy their use of hashtags or whatever.

[Anonymous No.4707528]

>>4707493
Looks like shit

[Anonymous No.4707535]

wip

[Anonymous No.4707705]

I'm trying to draw lines of varying thickness for the "pen outline" of the character. The usual way to do this seems to be to use pen pressure -> thickness. Unfortunately no one gives more details past this point, they just say to use this setting.

My lines end up looking like shit because I'm not able to control the pressure properly. So the thickness is all over the place. Anyone have any more specific advice?

For example something I've tried is set it so an "average" line is 100% pressure, thinner lines are <100% pressure, and thicker lines are made up of several strokes. This approach didn't help, still looked like shit. But this is the kind of info I'm looking for.

[Anonymous No.4707710]

ahhhhh

[Anonymous No.4707960]

>>4707347
I fixed the eye. Is this better?

[Anonymous No.4707963]

>>4707535
Idk why you're here. This is so good.

[Anonymous No.4707996]

>>4707705
It takes control and practice anon
It's not a setting that does the work for you.
Some programs have a tool where you can change line thickness by brushing over it though.
Not sure which ones. Csp maybe?

[Anonymous No.4708014]

>>4707996
Yes it takes practice but I feel like I don't have the proper setup yet.

CSP can do that and other "tricks" with vector lines, but I'm mostly not interested because it's too laborious. I'd rather practice and get good at drawing lines.

[Anonymous No.4708196]

>>4708014
>Yes it takes practice but I feel like I don't have the proper setup yet
It's literally just a skill you need to build up. There's no 'proper setup', some artists just ink everything with a hard round brush in PS with pressure controlling the thickness. There's no magic setup that will make you better at controlling your lines.

[Anonymous No.4708266]

6 days and the thread still haven't reached limit yet.
Seems like you crabs did it.
You killed this place.
Good fucking job.

Look at >>4704019 & >>4706245 & >>4707347
Nobody even give them any replies.

Here's an advice to you new learners.
LEAVE.
Don't Come back this shithole. EVER.
There's only crabs around here to shit on your works.
They provide no advice to help you improve.
They don't create a good environment for learners to feel comfortable to make mistakes.
This is the worst place possible for you to be.
LEAVE. NOW.

[Anonymous No.4708269]

>>4708266
You should thank this guy, mascot of /asg/, kek.

[Anonymous No.4708271]

>>4695146
Is Demon Slayer the big name success that people said it was gonna be?

[Anonymous No.4708275]

>>4708269
That's pretty much the point of no return.
Bunch of crabs attacking a new learner.
Proud of you, /asg/

[Anonymous No.4708278]

>>4708275
Can't see shit.

[Anonymous No.4708281]

>>4708266
pyw

[Anonymous No.4708282]

>>4708278
Here’s a better pic.

[Anonymous No.4708301]

>>4708266
Good thing this place is dead now, too many copyfags and /beg/tards.

[Anonymous No.4708310]

>>4707528
no it doesn't

[Anonymous No.4708316]

>>4708266
i think this thread is a lot better since grey sketch tranny killed himself, if this place is so bad as you say then why are you here? are you stupid of your parents are siblings?

[Anonymous No.4708401]

>>4708266
this thread is where we keep the broken toys.

[Anonymous No.4708411]

loomis works on anime. just thought it was interesting. you have to adjust the proportions a bit but at least this is a great way to know what those proportions are so that you can then construct the character.

[Anonymous No.4708414]

>>4708411
the anime is ariel deluxe btw. it was pretty good.

[Anonymous No.4708437]

>>4708414
another example

[Anonymous No.4708449]

>>4708411
which is what we've tried to tell people the entire time. no one listens and thinks there's something more to proportions than the same things humans have been using for the past few hundred years.

[Anonymous No.4708482]

>>4708411
we've been telling people this but nobody listens

[Anonymous No.4708486]

>>4708316
I feel like it's just sketch tranny himself trying to kill these threads again

[Anonymous No.4708490]

>>4707535
this is great. What's the ref?

>>4707493
I think the bottom middle looks better than the final product. It's on the eyes

[Anonymous No.4708491]

>>4708449
Never doubted you. Just wanted to share.

[Anonymous No.4708530]

>>4708282
I wonder if this anon has improved by now

[Anonymous No.4708571]

i dont know about the legs

[Anonymous No.4708580]

What's the best way to color over lineart like this?

[Anonymous No.4708583]

>>4708571
the knees in both leg need more work but the one in the left it's just a 90º angle

[Anonymous No.4708589]

>>4708316
>grey sketch tranny killed himself
Did he actually kill himself lmao? What happened?

[Anonymous No.4708596]

>>4708571
left looks good, but right calf should have that shapely leg thing that women get from high heels.

[Anonymous No.4708602]

>>4708580
>lock the lineart layer
>color on the lineart layer
or
>new layer above lineart
>set new layer to "clip at layer below"
>color your lineart on the new layer

[Anonymous No.4708604]

>>4708589
just figuratively. he stopped posting here after some anons roasted the guy

[Anonymous No.4708605]

>>4708580
if you don't know the basics of digital you shouldn't even be bothering with this

[Anonymous No.4708606]

>>4708605
cut the guy some slack he's still learning

[Anonymous No.4708701]

>>4708490
It was from imagination, but the character is okita souji from fate

[Anonymous No.4708721]

>>4708605
>if you don't know the basics you shouldn't be bothering with the basics

[Anonymous No.4708734]

>>4708721
learning clipping masks, locking transparency, and layers are the basics that would allow someone to understand how to color line art

[Anonymous No.4708736]

>>4708734
yet you told that guy not to bother with those basic things because he doesn't know the basics?

[Anonymous No.4708860]

>>4708734
>>4708721
seriously, what the hell?
>How do I do this?
>If you don't know, don't bother trying to know
are you out of your fucking head? just tell them how to do it

[Anonymous No.4708872]

>>4708580
Use a mask on your line art layer, if you right click on the layer it should give you the option.

[Anonymous No.4708916]

>>4708589
he didn't killed himself, he just vanished from ic with the other faggot that couldn't take any critic about his shitty "anime" art

[Anonymous No.4709179]

>>4708701
good shit anon, got any blog?

[Anonymous No.4709238]

>>4709179
https://twitter.com/evilliea

[Anonymous No.4709913]

>>4708271
I hate the face so much

[Anonymous No.4709942]

[Anonymous No.4709948]

>>4709942
Cute

[Anonymous No.4710239]

I think relying on soft round / air brush is harming my painting quality. What kind of brush and settings do I use to get a painted look? Is it hard round with opacity pressure? It looks so weird and feels weird to paint with this.

And what about blending brush? I feel like the mixer brush in Photoshop is hard to use, if it's even used/useful at all.

[Anonymous No.4710309]

>>4709942
I want her to crack my skull open with her kicks

[Anonymous No.4710409]

>>4708860
>>4708736
>>4708734
>>4708721
>>4708606
>>4708605
>>4708602
>>4708580
>He doesn't know you can color the line art with a single hit of a button
It really takes a special kind of stupid to actually manage and turn a simple task into a complete clusterfuck and at the end of the day you end up with an entire thesis on the behavior and approach between "not bothering to learn x unless you know the basics of x" and summarize it with "if you don't know the basics of x don't bother learning at all."

Fucking hell these threads are the pinnacle of mental retardation.

[Anonymous No.4710420]

>>4710409
pyw

[Anonymous No.4710440]

>>4710420

[Anonymous No.4710454]

>>4710440

[Anonymous No.4710469]

>>4710409
all that anon did was ask a simple question which got answered, with another anon being an asshole about it for no reason. it's people like you why these threads are so bad

[Anonymous No.4710475]

>>4710469
>no, u!
Keep spinning that wheel you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.4710481]

>>4710440
blog

[Anonymous No.4710487]

>>4710475
you've made a mountain out of a molehill, it's definitely you.

[Anonymous No.4710491]

>>4710481
>https://www.deviantart.com/kromcompany/gallery

[Anonymous No.4710576]

>>4708580
do you fuckers not set their lineart layer to multiply?

[Anonymous No.4710587]

>>4710576
Multiply won't do anything unless the lineart is already colored.

[Anonymous No.4710775]

Any good tutorials on how to draw anime heads? I've never draw anime style before.

[Anonymous No.4710815]

>>4695536
this amuses me greatly

[Anonymous No.4710925]

>>4710775
you can apply the loomis head structure to an anime face, you only have to modify the proportions a bit

[Anonymous No.4711294]

>>4708411
The entire fucking point of Loomis' head is to teach people universal landmarks of the human head that are crucial to understanding stylisation. Fun with a pencil literally starts off with drawing super deformed bean heads.

[Anonymous No.4711407]

This isn't really anime and I don't draw anime stuff regularly but they're two characters from Japanese media so the influences are there.

You get points if you recognise which characters they are.

[Anonymous No.4711411]

>>4711407
Oh fucking hell her upper arms are too long. Never, ever notice this shit until it's in a thumbnail.

[Anonymous No.4711432]

How do I come up with interesting poses?

[Anonymous No.4711434]

>>4711432
Loomis

[Anonymous No.4711445]

>>4711407
You ruined Merle. Good technique and art but awful aesthetics

[Anonymous No.4711461]

>>4711445
m8 his bitch has a straight-up stink face throughout half the show lmao

Nice ID though.

[Anonymous No.4711470]

>>4711434
This, but unironically.

[Anonymous No.4711488]

I keep fucking up the shading I s2g

[Anonymous No.4711494]

>>4711488
The skintone is way too bright for the rest of the composition. Try changing the tone of your shadows from a red to a muted purple and make the lines crisper/harder in places where the object blocking the light is closer is closer to the body. Everything is all blurry and that's not how shadows work.

[Anonymous No.4711506]

>>4711494
Will do, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4711536]

>>4711488
Next time you run into a problem like this try viewing your piece in grayscale. The crazy values will give you an immediate indication of where you're going wrong. As you can see the skin shadows are so light they're barely there, whereas the rest of the shadows are almost black they're so dark.

[Anonymous No.4711545]

>>4711536
Damn, that's mega useful, I'll make sure to add that to my workflow. Hopefully it'll suck less lmao

[Anonymous No.4711555]

>>4711545

[Anonymous No.4711617]

>>4710239
MIn
10:42
01:05:30
01:34:16
https://youtu.be/WzFhmUl98Wc?t=667

and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SotSKy2WoMk

[Anonymous No.4711618]

Honestly how’d I do

[Anonymous No.4711638]

>>4711618
Instead of focusing on the individual lines when you eyeball, focus more on the underlying shape and structure

[Anonymous No.4711694]

>>4711638

[Anonymous No.4711808]

Holy shit I think I just finally figured this out.

This is the first anime face I've drawn from imagination that I'm not completely embarrass by. Fuck that took forever.

[Anonymous No.4711812]

>>4711808
I feel like I just squeezed out an enormous shit after sitting on the toilet for months.

[Anonymous No.4711855]

>>4711808

[Anonymous No.4711874]

>>4711855
LOL brow too big?

[Anonymous No.4711875]

>>4711638
I always try to but struggle

[Anonymous No.4711884]

>>4711638
Not that guy, lately I have been practicing hips and I generally use simplified shapes for the pelvis bone, I couldn't for the hell of me come out with a real one out of thin air. My results are there but they are incredibly lackluster, how the fuck do I achieve your level?

[Anonymous No.4711952]

>>4711617
thanks! that helps

[Anonymous No.4711971]

>>4711638
Damn that’s amazing. What courses did you follow?

[Anonymous No.4711996]

>>4711488
I don't know about you, but I have a hard time imagining Mio in such a scene

[Anonymous No.4712018]

>>4711874
Top of the head a bit wide yea

[Anonymous No.4712019]

>>4711407
They look like goblins

[Anonymous No.4712027]

>>4699703
I did some more studies from FLCL, this time of Canti. his model changes from episode to episode (even sometimes form shot to shot), so it's kinda hard to tell what some parts of him are supposed to actually look like
>>4709942
is yours the one on the right? I think you really improved the foreshortening on the raised leg, the size increase really helps make it more dynamic. the face lost some of its appeal, but I don't think I'd notice if the original wasn't right next to it
>>4711407
looks great, super expressive line work. I think you could sacrifice some of the anatomical accuracy on the face of the girl of the left, the face shapes look 'correct' but not necessarily appealing. drawing interlocking fingers is complicated as fuck, but I think you nailed it pretty well here
>>4711432
I think figure drawing would come in handy for that. I had a teacher once who told us to come to a figure drawing session with a model sheet and some reference of a cartoon/anime character of choice and to draw that character doing the model's poses. pretty fun exercise!
>>4711618
I think the details turned out really well, you definitely have more patience than I do. I dunno if it's because I'm turning my head sideways to look at it, but the drawing looks pretty accurate to the ref too, really well observed
>>4711808
looks pretty good, those shadow shapes are very old school anime looking. don't let the epiphany escape you, keep drawing more!

[Anonymous No.4712029]

>>4712027
I also did an illustration from imagination again to try and get the style down, but it didn't turn out super well. might do another eventually

[Anonymous No.4712054]

Any reference for anime hands? If I draw from life it looks too fat/stubby

[Anonymous No.4712058]

>>4712054
Learn to draw hands first.

[Anonymous No.4712063]

>>4712029
GMI

[Anonymous No.4712077]

>>4712054
https://www.deviantart.com/nsio/art/Mini-tutorial-From-Basics-to-Complexity-608049999
you need to know perspective AKA N-G-M-I

[Anonymous No.4712129]

literally nothing like the reference lol. i'm definitely getting lazy with my studies

[Anonymous No.4712145]

>>4711432
you can cheat by taking some interesting reference, drawing the figure's loomis style skeleton thing and then imposing your character onto it

[Anonymous No.4712226]

>>4711884
You don't need to, the hip bone is there to illustrate the point. All you need are just those kidney shaped plates and you're good to go

[Anonymous No.4712262]

>>4712129
it makes me uncomfortable to imagine what you used as reference for this

[Anonymous No.4712269]

>>4712262
my cat bruh

[Anonymous No.4712278]

>>4712058
>>4712077
I can draw hands in perspective from imagination but they look like man hands. Idk how to make them slender and cute without looking alien

[Anonymous No.4712286]

how does lineweight works? do you just place them randomly?

[Anonymous No.4712287]

>>4712286
yes

[Anonymous No.4712290]

>>4712287
seriously?

[Anonymous No.4712293]

>>4712286
it depends on several factors like light, darkness, hard surfaces, soft surfaces, how close or away of the camera the subject is, etc. you'll develop a sense studying your fundies, color, pespective, anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4712304]

>>4712286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa8dXp7DAD4

[Anonymous No.4712429]

>>4712304
thanks

>>4712293
yeah I guess, I just look at some pieces sometimes and it feels random to me

[Anonymous No.4712432]

>>4712429
Look at works where the finished work is just lineart

[Anonymous No.4712451]

>>4712432
okay

[Anonymous No.4712515]

>>4711407
is the one on the left Xiao from Dark Cloud?

[Anonymous No.4712548]

>>4712019
It's honestly perfect if that's the case then.

>>4712515
Surprised anybody got that since I forgot to add her arm warmers when I started drawing her arms and she doesn't have a slingshot yet. That and hardly anybody played Dark Cloud.

[Anonymous No.4712676]

>>4712548
I love Level-5's early stuff and just got back to my project of finally beating Demon Shaft. It would be cool to see Ruby in your style too!

[Anonymous No.4712720]

>>4712278
https://youtu.be/ahWFgSiUxSk

[Anonymous No.4712795]

>>4712676
I'm actually doing a play-through right now (why I'm drawing Xiao, wanted to draw the two most influential catgirls from my childhood).

When I played the game as a kid I guess my disc got fucked, because it always froze midway through the Moon Sea. Could never manage to fix the disc so I never got to complete the game or experience the Demon Shaft. The game is fun, but goddamn it's a mess. You can tell it was an early-gen title and Level-5's first game. They really didn't understand the architecture or how to maximise the power of the PS2 at all.

Ruby is hot, but Witch Dancer was the real babe.

[Anonymous No.4713387]

>>4712720
This was actually mind blowing, thanks

[Anonymous No.4713439]

>>4712720

based Pin2D

[Anonymous No.4713513]

[Anonymous No.4713560]

I wanna put shadows from the palm fronds onto this sphynx. Where should they go?? I'm so scared of shadows

[Anonymous No.4713561]

>>4713560

[Anonymous No.4713563]

>>4713513
a qt but left arm is too shrivelled and short

[Anonymous No.4713653]

>>4713560
The palm what
Theres no clear light direction
Whatever the case you can put them in between the toes at least

[Anonymous No.4713780]

>>4712029
I tried doing another, although the pose isn't particularly interesting
>>4712054
I did some studies of anime hands a little further up in the thread. taking an anime with a style you like and doing some direct copies can help a lot with deciphering what works and what doesn't
>>4713560
hard to say, you should plan out these sorts of things in the sketch/layout phase of the drawing, it makes big artistic decisions much less stressful. you could have one of the fronds casting like along the back, maybe one on the head obscuring the top half of the face in shadow if you want some drama. if you have a digital drawing program, you could try painting over your scan digitally to try and see what different set ups might look like
>>4713653
looool pretty sure they mean the leaves from the palm trees, not the palm of the sphinx's hand

[Anonymous No.4713814]

>wanting to download the book collection
>mega is slow as fuck
FUCK is there any mirror?

[Anonymous No.4713882]

why do both of these look terrible, and why does the “don’t” side look better?

[Anonymous No.4713920]

>>4713780
>>4713653
Yes lmao I definitely meant the palm trees not the paws

And yes i should have planned earlier, I am so bad about that. I hate to think of all the times i've completely started over because I didn't plan well enough and I need to make adjustments. Here at least the only adjustment I want to make is the shadow. I'll try doing a mock up on my tablet before I attempt anything, thank you!

[Anonymous No.4713930]

>>4713882
imagine taking advice of anime style from a western artist

[Anonymous No.4713963]

>>4713930
True KEK
>>4713882
Try this

[Anonymous No.4714024]

considering that the study of anime should be mostly rooted in memorization, what would be a good way to use a flashcard program like anki to help with it?

[Anonymous No.4714028]

>>4714024
there is no good way to use anki for art. srs is nothing to do with drawing.

[Anonymous No.4714036]

>>4713561
>>4713920
The center palm would surely carry a shadow from mid right back to left buttocks/leg

[Anonymous No.4714038]

>>4714028
i understand where you're coming from, as art is supposed to be original and creative. srs can't help with that part. but what about the parts that you should memorize? for instance i've been using it to study the muscles, their origins and insertions.

[Anonymous No.4714047]

>>4714028
>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cK9q7oeFRE58MVaSgUql662iGqCXC8Ah/edit
>Draw your references from memory after letting time pass from when you did your
tracing and copying. It will help to stare at and analyze your reference for a few
minutes before letting time pass. After you complete your memory drawing, let some
more time pass before you compare it with the reference and review your notes and
process.
above is from a guide in the sticky, and it sounds exactly like spaced repetition lmao. just want a way to efficiently memorize, not just study drawings from memory randomly and ineffectively.

[Anonymous No.4714081]

>>4712226
>All you need are just those kidney shaped plates and you're good to go
I'm not good to go, my art is both bad and extremely inconsistent. Problem is I understand I need to practice perspective and simplified shapes to properly convey things on space, but.
a) Even with practice my perspective is crap, I'm not expecting to be a master but I'm failing to get a basic understanding and foundation where I can work from. Things get only worse when the trunk is not going towards the same vp as the hips and even worse when adding the rest of the elements such as limbs, I don't even know how to practice perspective effectively.
b) Even if I can put a hip on a reference when deconstructing, I cannot put them properly when constructing without reference

[Anonymous No.4714089]

>>4711971
looks like anatomy for sculptors?

[Anonymous No.4714101]

something wip for /a/

>>4711407
you could probably get away w/ making this cuter/more charming by taking out or downplaying some excessive definition here and there even if it looks fine anyways
you got a blog or something where i can see your progress or any tips/recommendations for gesture/anatomy?

>>4712795
my childhood amounted to Dark Cloud 2 for PS2 and Megaman Z 3 for GBA SP, both picked up from the side of the road

ironically i never got past the forest in Dark Cloud 2 either, but that's because I was a retarded kid, not cause my disc was broken

[Anonymous No.4714104]

>>4714101
forgot to attach image

[Anonymous No.4714115]

>>4714104
built like a tree trunk

[Anonymous No.4714170]

>>4714081
a) Understanding perspective is a matter of experience. Take pictures, visit places. You need to build a large library of reference both mentally and physically/digitally. Nothing beats real-life experience. Of course, you'll need to read up on theory and apply them, such as point perspective rules or rule of thirds in composition. I sometimes like to take photos of figurines to test out how the composition/perspectives would roughly be like and it's invaluable to my work

b) Don't worry about drawing from memory. That comes with years of practice. Right now, your focus should be on getting your fundamentals down to build yourself up to the next step

[Anonymous No.4714275]

>>4714170
>Right now, your focus should be on getting your fundamentals down to build yourself up to the next step
This is what I'm aiming for at the moment.
>Of course, you'll need to read up on theory and apply them, such as point perspective rules.
This is what I'm failing to accomplish altogether.

[Anonymous No.4714306]

>>4695146
Who are your art influences bros?
The actual ones, not the "I'm gonna call them that to make them feel special" type.

[Anonymous No.4714345]

>>4714306
fuck me if my art doesn't look nothing like my idols

[Anonymous No.4714395]

>>4711808
How's this one?

[Anonymous No.4714422]

>>4714306
them

[Anonymous No.4714484]

>>4714395

[Anonymous No.4714528]

>>4711407
I added some colour.

[Anonymous No.4714605]

>>4714528
Kawaii !

[Anonymous No.4715100]

>>4714528
deviantart/10

This isn't even anime

[Anonymous No.4715332]

>>4715100
You're not even anime.

[Anonymous No.4715382]

>>4708282
Fuck I came here to ask for this.

God I needed a good laugh.

There's just something about that Sasuke that makes me chuckle every time. Reminds me of how I used to draw I guess.

[Anonymous No.4715401]

>>4715382

[Anonymous No.4715412]

>>4715401
Thank you

Jesus Christ

I'm saving this to my desktop

[Anonymous No.4715417]

>>4715412
It's so good lmao

[Anonymous No.4715520]

You did do some studies today, right anon? At least one? You're not slacking off, are you?

[Anonymous No.4715522]

>>4708530
he got so good he turned pro and stopped posting. that's what happens to anyone who sticks with the /asg/ method for more than a week

[Anonymous No.4715533]

>>4714484
seems like you need to practice more the looking from the top angle, find some real reference and break it down to grids and planes to see how it works.

[Anonymous No.4715677]

>>4708530
This is what i have now.
I occasionally check the thread in ic.
But i had given up on this crab filled shit hole and is in a discord now.

[Anonymous No.4715773]

>>4715677
Good to see you are still at it.

[Anonymous No.4716252]

>>4708271
The draftsmanship quality for this show is off the charts.
I'm honestly shocked everytime I'm reminded this is a TV show, and not an OVA or feature film. Sure, they have the occasional repeat frames here and there, but the overall quality is pretty damn crazy imo.

[Anonymous No.4716370]

looking for that soft brush/lasso tool skin rendering tutorial that gets posted every so often

[Anonymous No.4716805]

>>4715677
>and is in a discord now

[Anonymous No.4716829]

>>4715677
>still chicken scratching
>still symbol drawing
>still drawing kids
so you were looking for a circlejerk, not actual advice

[Anonymous No.4716843]

>>4716829
That's not chicken scratch
But surprise surprise the crab turns out to be a discord tranny

[Anonymous No.4716850]

>>4716843
check the hair

[Anonymous No.4716907]

>>4716829
>still drawing kids

[Anonymous No.4716919]

>>4716907
So much this.
>>4716829 your a complete idiot.
Drawing kids is good..
fuck off you religion maniac brain dead scum.

[Anonymous No.4716962]

>>4695146
Bros what are best resources to read and write Japanese to embrace my weaboo dream?

[Anonymous No.4717028]

[Anonymous No.4717164]

>>4716962
check /int/

[Anonymous No.4717256]

>>4715773
Yep.
As long as i'm not here to be dragged down by the crabs, i'm improving slowly everyday.
Seeing that i'm still living rent free in some mentally ill anons here, it's the best decision i made to leave this shithole and found a discord instead.
No wonder the crabs are so afraid of discord.
Because everyone is trying to improve there, and have zero tolerance towards crabs behavior.

Anyway, i'm currently learning to draw hair. Maybe i will be back here again some other time.

[Anonymous No.4717355]

Working on a bunne

[Anonymous No.4717374]

>>4717355
Eyes too far apart
Does her muff also have a fluffy white puff?

[Anonymous No.4717392]

>>4717374
Oh lmao I'll fix that

I'd like to think so :^) but I prefer it to be clean shaven

[Anonymous No.4717399]

>>4714275
Not sure if you're still around anon, but hopefully this'll help you out

[Anonymous No.4717401]

.

[Anonymous No.4717469]

>>4717399
Really appreciate it but I should have been more clear. My problem is that my perspective is shit and always wrong, don't know how to practice it properly and even when studying the theory I fail to apply it when doing attempts. So even if I'm successful on simplifying shapes the end result is still absolutely terrible. For instance with the examples you just gave me I would fail at attempting any kind of different rotation or foreshortening.

[Anonymous No.4717487]

>>4699141
It looks like his use in the ref is a bit more dynamic as well. Notice how his leaning back rather than just standing straight?
Watch a few tutorials on youtube about dynamic posing, it really goes a long way.
Keep up the good work, anon!

[Anonymous No.4717501]

>>4717469
Your best bet is drawing from observation. Get a physical object, rotate it and draw still life

[Anonymous No.4717536]

I WANNA GET GOOD WHY AM I NOT GOOD

[Anonymous No.4717546]

>>4715677
ganbarre anon

[Anonymous No.4717566]

>>4717401
Either make the scarf tighter or put the scarf over her chin It looks bad in real life too if you wear it like that because no neck

[Anonymous No.4717574]

>>4695146
>>why you should copy anime
haha

[Anonymous No.4717575]

>>4717536
Just draw lmao

[Anonymous No.4717576]

>>4717575
I HAVE BEEN DOINIG THAT FOR YEARS
how much more do i have to suffer

[Anonymous No.4717586]

>>4717576

>>4717399 here, post your stuff, I'll see what I can help you out with

[Anonymous No.4717602]

>>4717586

[Anonymous No.4717658]

>>4717602
Not too bad, honestly. One main issue is how the face is structured, ie how long it is. You might want to take a look at the art from the artists you like and "borrow" that style.

Anime usually has rounder heads for the cuteness factor, so you can try rounding things out

[Anonymous No.4717660]

>>4715677
>given up on this crab filled shit hole
GMI
>is in a discord now.
NGMI

Only loneliness can create a great artist

[Anonymous No.4717730]

>>4717658
>You might want to take a look at the art from the artists you like
not really good cause i love every style and good art i come across
i tried drawing a cuter one

[Anonymous No.4717733]

>>4717658
>like an artist
>do a study
>ask for critique
>anons point out all the shit anatomy in the reference instead

[Anonymous No.4717738]

Last ones:
>>4697999
>>4699774

[Anonymous No.4717780]

>>4717730
Pick 3 artists that has the most influence in your art, then go from there

[Anonymous No.4717992]

Studied Kojima today
note to self: draw bigger

[Anonymous No.4718036]

since you guys are more likely to use cps I'll ask here
is there any book/site/resource on how to use digital brushes, especially in clip studio paint, I usually just use the lighter pencil but it's kinda cause I have no real idea on what I'm doing in terms of pencil, in traditional drawing there's tons of stuff explaining different pencil but i'm having a real hard time finding resources for digital

[Anonymous No.4718057]

>>4718036
ctrl paint and it's the same thing. ignore her mixing settings but you want a basic hard round and soft round
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZbJYAVmghk

[Anonymous No.4718088]

>>4717780
so ill just copy them?

[Anonymous No.4718134]

I need some advice on whether it is possible or not to draw like this do you need to goto some art school or can you be self taught to do this. i know naver a korean website has alot of classes to pretty much teach you how to draw this because the artist is LITERALLY ON THERE TEACHING AND I CANT LEARN CUZ IM NOT KOREAN https://en.class101.net/collections/most-popular-courses/products/wedji
anyway this is the only thing close to any western courses ive seen online SCAM or good?

[Anonymous No.4718299]

>>4718088
Copy what you like about their style, yes

[Anonymous No.4718432]

Where can I find some good chink speedpaints? I want to see how they work

[Anonymous No.4718486]

>>4718480
>>4718480
>>4718480
>>4718480
new

[Anonymous No.4720555]

>>4711407
This is so good but also so creepy.