Commission Price Check Thread!

[Anonymous No.4693356]

Thinking about doing commissions? Don't know where to start on how much to price them?
Have anons give their opinion on how much they'd buy your work for or for how much you'd buy theirs here!

[Anonymous No.4693397]

how much could I make?

[Anonymous No.4693399]

>>4693397
Nothing if you won't bother to do more than a sketch.

[Anonymous No.4693402]

>>4693397
If you do over the lines in a different layer this could be really good! The pose and style is very cute.
As it is now it would be too rough to find many buyers.

[Anonymous No.4693429]

>>4693356
What would this be worth? Also if I did more fullbodies too how much more should they be?

[Anonymous No.4693430]

>>4693402
>>4693399
Thank anons. I'll work on it some more.

[Anonymous No.4693431]

>>4693356
Im really afraid to set my prices higher than 10 euro, I dont get many comissions at all and I have like 20 followers or something.

[Anonymous No.4693479]

hao mulch???

[Anonymous No.4693481]

>>4693431
Seek out some clients individually! Part of commissions is putting yourself out there. You have a really soothing and nice looking style and I'm surprised you don't have more followers yet. Do you make finished pieces often and do you not post a lot?

[Anonymous No.4693487]

>>4693479
your soul

[Anonymous No.4693493]

>>4693479
I don't even care about the fattish stuff but why is her mouth like that

[Anonymous No.4693514]

Now I can tell the anatomy errors, but I didn't notice them before I started rendering... and well, I commited. I'm also aware of the poor edgework on the shadows, but I've definitely learnt a lot with this piece

Well, how much?

[Anonymous No.4693519]

>>4693397
sketch looks cute but can't judge on that alone
>>4693429
generic but well drawn, at least $50
>>4693431
faces and bodies not appealing enough for commissions. though there's clearly more effort than any drawing posted so far
>>4693479
too niche for me

[Anonymous No.4693520]

>>4693493
dunno ya know it just sorta slipped out ya know like a feeling ya know

[Anonymous No.4693556]

>all that horrible horrible "art"
>how much goys?
Not even coomers are that stupid to pay for that literal shit

[Anonymous No.4693572]

>>4693556
well pyw goy

[Anonymous No.4693578]

>>4693356
How much would waist ups like this be worth? I can also do fullbodies but wouldn't know how much to bump up the price.

[Anonymous No.4693587]

stat me

[Anonymous No.4693591]

>>4693481
aww thank you, i was in a phase where i was posting nothing for months, simply felt that my scribbles were not good enoguh and I only finished a peice about 30% of the time, tried fiver a couple of times and hated it

[Anonymous No.4693601]

>>4693556
regular human art? no
furry art? yes

[Anonymous No.4693602]

>>4693431
I think you should be able to do far better than what you are charging. It's nice to see something that feels wholesome on this board every now and then.

[Anonymous No.4693608]

Cartoony style D&D characters.
Anything?

[Anonymous No.4693615]

>>4693608
$0

[Anonymous No.4693628]

>>4693429
20 bucks

[Anonymous No.4693638]

Handy thread

[Anonymous No.4693657]

>>4693356
Can someone with experience redpill me on commissions?
How hard is it to make a living if you're willing to do coom? How long does it take to build a following?

[Anonymous No.4693666]

>>4693608
0$

[Anonymous No.4693671]

>>4693514
face ruins it. rendering is good enough to make it. some unappealing spots here and there, especially the feet, ribs sticking out. I'm sure you'll find buyers in the near future.
>>4693578
halfway there in terms of quality. there's a lot of competition when it comes to drawing anime girls so I don't think there's anyone willing to pay for mediocre options.
>>4693587
stylistic art is kind of hard to mass market when the subject is something else than a girl. good colors and setting. lineart quality is inconsistent.
>>4693608
wouldn't like or want to follow such art let alone pay for it.
>>4693638
doesn't look good enough for commissions right now but has GMI potential. if you sell your soul and copy appealing faces I'm sure you'll find a market. lineart is kinda meh but that will improve with time.

[Anonymous No.4693673]

>>4693671
>doesn't look good enough for commissions right now
Are you sure? Ive been backed up with commissions since may and have been doing them since September. Was looking for a rough price for adjustment but thanks anyway I guess

[Anonymous No.4693678]

>>4693673
wtf really? congrats then. I wasn't trying to be mean but I guess I underestimated you

[Anonymous No.4693679]

How many Macaroons could I get for something like this, maybe full body. I've been asking ~50$

[Anonymous No.4693682]

>>4693673
He doesn't know what he's talking about desu. I am the one who drew tho Yuzuki Yukari pic and I used to get comms even when my art was complete messy /beg/ low effort garbage and even that was worth at least $30 and got customers. I know I can sell my new art but lie you really needed an adjustment
Your art is worth $. I would price it myself if I was good at that kind of thing but as evidenced by me posting here I am not

[Anonymous No.4693684]

>mfw the entire thread is porn

[Anonymous No.4693688]

>>4693678
>>4693671
bro how do you get into the commission business? I still have a little bit more of improving to do in my art until I start online, but I need to know how to break in

[Anonymous No.4693689]

>>4693678
Yes I started taking them quite early in my drawing journey. I just calculated how much I've made since june 2nd and it's around 550 usd between paypal and amazon gift cards
>>4693682
Very cute Yuzuki, and yeah I sell my stuff around that, but it ends up being more due to 2 or 3 characters requested in one image plus sloppy backgrounds I charge a penny for, between that and the speed I try to work, things pretty alright so far. I didnt think I'd be able to pay a few bills through my /beg/ work by now already but I'll count my blessings

[Anonymous No.4693702]

>>4693688
>>4693688
with the kind of art I do there's loads of NSFW communities online that are good for marketing (by marketing I just mean sharing art). so it's basically just that and twitter. I know this isn't much but if there's anything to take away I would highly recommend finding some online forums, art websites, boorus, anything to post your art in, even reddit. good luck anon

[Anonymous No.4693707]

>>4693679
Colors and pose are nice, but if you could nail the anatomy more, closer to $100.

Problem is that it's ultimately digital, more disposable and less unique. Yes, we should get paid for our work and talent whether it be traditional or digital. But I feel weird charging full rates for digital, since it can copied or multiplied with the exact same quality.

[Anonymous No.4693711]

>>4693689
This is better than what you posted previously, this looks pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.4693717]

>>4693707
Cool, I get always notes on anatomy. It always sounds like a cop out but that's jUsT_mY_sTyLe, The waist/hip proportion is meant to be cartoony, like an invisible corset. Imho it doesn't look good enough to be uncanny valley but maybe I'm blind to my own awfulness. Should I change it?

[Anonymous No.4693721]

>>4693711
Previous work was done all on my new ipad with less time sunken in so maybe that's why
I like it more than my second work posted though

[Anonymous No.4693728]

>>4693689
Thank you for the compliment anon! And is pic related your work too? If so that is really good and is even better than the 1st one. You are pretty good at rendering
did you say you are charging around $30 for multiple characters?? Is so you are selling yourself so short!

[Anonymous No.4693750]

>>4693679
The left eye looks off to me

[Anonymous No.4693757]

>>4693750
Not him but this isn't the anatomy and art critique thread like everyone seems to think it is. It is the "how much money would you pay for this art even if it has flaws" thread.

[Anonymous No.4693763]

>>4693717
I don't mind the thinness of the waist, but that far hip is messed up.

[Anonymous No.4693777]

>>4693728
Yeah I wanted to post a second artwork of mine since maybe the bust wasnt good enough?
My exact price is 26 for anything that goes below the waist for one character, then each additional character is 50% of that price, it's low and more work but I'm not trying to cash grab really. My problem is that when I'm commissioned to draw ocs and fetishes, sometimes my quality just drops because I'm not motivated between the context and price point so I just don't feel happy about that

Ideally I want to be able to do my best for every work but that's probably not a thing. I did promise myself I'll be sure to do a high effort personal piece once a week from now on

[Anonymous No.4693776]

>>4693757
Yes, it may not be strictly an anatomy or critique thread, but as an artist who draws and does commission other artists, If I see glaring problems with someone's work, that's a "nope" from me, keeping my money in my pocket, and I move on.

[Anonymous No.4693805]

>>4693777
They are both good, I think the shading and lineart is a lot cleaner in the 2nd pic which is what makes it appealing
And as long as your prices get you more comms and you are happy with that it is good! I really think your fullbodies are worth at least $40 or $50 but then your comms would slow to a more normal rate so it is a toss up because you might lose the back to back frequency you get with the lower prices

[Anonymous No.4693811]

>>4693776
It's more of a squinting error.

[Anonymous No.4693843]

These threads are fun

[Anonymous No.4693848]

One reason I’ve been turning down commissions is I have no idea how to price them. Also, what do you use to receive payment? Venmo?

[Anonymous No.4693850]

>>4693843
I don't like the face but I'd say around 130ish dollars

[Anonymous No.4693851]

>>4693843
80

[Anonymous No.4693852]

>>4693429
My man, she has t-rex arms and hands, please solve that

[Anonymous No.4693857]

>>4693848
It'd hard to say when your style looks so muddy. That specific picture, maybe 65 dollars?

[Anonymous No.4693859]

>>4693843
At least $150 for a base price. Your art is sick
>>4693848
Not good at pricing full bg pics but yes Venmo or a lot of people use Paypal.
Also payment tips in case this is your first time taking commissions
Get at least half the price of the comm up front and only send the pic watermarked before you get the rest of the money.
Once you have done enough comms to be considered not risky to buy from and have established yourself a bit, ask for the full price up front before doing any work.

[Anonymous No.4693874]

>>4693679
Here's another rough redline workup of your piece, which I do like overall for the colors and the upper half. I think you were trying to throw the hip to the side more, and tried to do that by shifting her whole topside a little to the left. Sexiness can be a look or even a slight tilt of a hip or shoulder.

But please don't take this as me ripping on your piece. you're actually farther than me on digital coloring.

[Anonymous No.4693887]

I know it isnt a complete image, but what would you pay for a YCH like this? With legs and everything ofc, but just need to know

Also, some anatomy guidance would help me a ton. I feel like I'm close to grasping anatomy but maybe I'm just too autistic to realize my errors.

[Anonymous No.4693889]

>>4693679
Please don't listen to >>4693874
Your anatomy if far more appealing than this anon's. Literally the only change you might need at all is the hip like >>4693763
had said.
Also your art is worth at least $70+.

[Anonymous No.4693903]

>>4693887
>ych
cringe. do you have any completed work so that we even have an idea of how our character would look if we were to buy this? Going off this alone, 2 dollars but I wouldnt even want to go through the transaction

[Anonymous No.4693905]

>>4693887
What’s a ych

[Anonymous No.4693906]

>>4693591
what is bad about fiverrr? I thought it looks good.

[Anonymous No.4693909]

>>4693843
$150 just for the attention to detail in her clothes. They do seem to be more of the focus, but I would have liked a little more definition in her bare hand.

Getting tired of these captchas

[Anonymous No.4693915]

>>4693889
I'm both (You)s.

[Anonymous No.4693916]

>>4693905
ych = your character here

>>4693903
I dont have much completed work and its more of just practice for now and some shit from drawthreads that I dont save. I wanna get into selling art since I been workin on my art for about 2 months now and wanna start doin some real work. If you want, I could try to design that model and see what I can turn it into?

[Anonymous No.4693919]

>>4693887
With your skill, $0. You need to be decent if you want to make something like 3k from ychs.

[Anonymous No.4693922]

>>4693916
>I wanna get into selling art since I been workin on my art for about 2 months now
meh not interested. I recommend you continue doing it as a hobby for at least a few more months, seeing that you don't even have a completed work to show.

[Anonymous No.4693927]

>>4693922
K
>>4693919
How would you recommend I improve

[Anonymous No.4693933]

>>4693927
the sticky

[Anonymous No.4693935]

It is a little paint but what would you give?

[Anonymous No.4693938]

>>4693935
Nothing since it's abstract art and I'm unable to tell what it's trying to make me feel. Are you able to describe the piece to me?

[Anonymous No.4693945]

>>4693935
>>4693938
I see a dick in barbed wire.

[Anonymous No.4693946]

>>4693938
Well i think it is a windmill in truble ^^
A little surealism, fancy colors.

[Anonymous No.4693947]

>>4693935
You’ll literally earn nothing from this, unless it’s through money laundering.

[Anonymous No.4693948]

not like this thread makes much sense but whatever

[Anonymous No.4693952]

>>4693948
Basic coom shit. $100

[Anonymous No.4693953]

>>4693947
Don't get it...

[Anonymous No.4693955]

>>4693946
>I think it is
Are you the artist or...

[Anonymous No.4693958]

>>4693955
Yeah i think i am

[Anonymous No.4693961]

>>4693948
not into fat chicks, but nice rendering of the forms and environment. Probably at least $200 if consistent.

[Anonymous No.4693962]

>>4693955
We have people who aren’t artist here.

[Anonymous No.4693963]

>>4693948
I remember you

[Anonymous No.4693971]

>>4693962
Why are there people who aren't artists on /ic/

[Anonymous No.4693978]

>>4693933
Yeah, I havent actually studied much yet so it could probably be helpful to start studying some free loomis

Anyway, ig Ima go. Probably shoulda posted an actual complete photo to not get shit on lol

[Anonymous No.4693982]

>>4693971
They are here for shitpost, commissions, and spread drama or talk about /pol/ shit(some /pol/tards are artist).

[Anonymous No.4693986]

>>4693971
you don't need to be an artist to have an opinion on a piece of art. Their opinion may be uninformed, but it is their opinion.

I don't make films, but I know what movies I like.

[Anonymous No.4693987]

>>4693952
i thought basic coom shit was in $60-80 range?
>>4693961
>if consistent.
yeah about that…
>>4693963
>master1200
come on man

[Anonymous No.4693990]

>>4693986
So they come here to critique work as a hobby even though they don't have the skills to qualify for constructive criticism? That's awful

[Anonymous No.4693995]

>>4693990
Basically, they are also apart of the crab problem.

[Anonymous No.4694001]

>>4693990
>a hobby
not at all. how many people go to museums to peruse and look at art. it's something to do, and a lot of people are bored or locked down that they can't go out and have other fun.

i showed a picture illustrated by Norman Rockwell to a friend. his response was that the dog running at the bottom of the picture looked like it was flying. it is what it is. weigh opinions on where they could be coming from.

[Anonymous No.4694010]

>>4693963
>>4693987
>if consistent.
Certainly has a style.

That's a nice piece that's a little more involved. I like the colors and the rendering, but now looking at the 2 pieces, as an artist looking commissioning other artists (something an art director does all the time) I would like to see a little more variation in the textures, they kind of feel all the same. Make her clothes silk, the couch fabric velvet, and the couch frame metallic gold.

[Anonymous No.4694028]

>>4693356
>letting niggers on the basket weaving forum tell you what to price your goods
I pray you goyim are just doing this for laughs and aren't actually setting prices based on 4channel nonsense

[Anonymous No.4694036]

>>4694028
How would you price then, smarty pants?

[Anonymous No.4694125]

>>4694036
Not here where neets come to beg for 10 USD dollars, LMAO

[Anonymous No.4694165]

>>4694125
Very helpful information.

[Anonymous No.4694168]

>>4694125
this
>>4694036
A good place to start for base prices when you're just beginning to take comms is $50. Maybe $20-$40 for a sketch depending on your skill level.
Selling clean line art, fully rendered drawings for less than $50 dollars is not worth your time.
You would unironically make more money at McDonalds and you'd get some additional benefits too.
When you sell your art for cheap it tells people that your work is bargain bin shit that has little value regardless of how good it may actually look. And if you charge low for a long time, when you finally decide to raise your prices, the beggars and leeches that were buying your shit for $10 or $20 will call you a jew for raising your prices to reasonable wages.

[Anonymous No.4694180]

[Anonymous No.4694181]

>>4694168
>tfw I would have to do 150 commissions to even match what I make at my normie job

I guess I’ll stay a hobbyist.

[Anonymous No.4694186]

how much for this?

>>4693587
very nice! at least 40

[Anonymous No.4694196]

how much for this style? I already have an alright following on twitter (2.4k) and want to be drawing NSFW. This is my most recent pic

[Anonymous No.4694226]

>>4694036
I would suggest going to anime or comic conventions and check out their artist alleys to get an idea where your skill level is and how much they're charging.

[Anonymous No.4694268]

>>4693356
B-be gentle

[Anonymous No.4694300]

>>4694181
You can take commissions on the side. It doesn't have to be your main way of making money.
People who live off commissions (in first world countries) usually charge a few hundred dollars bare minimum for their stuff.

[Anonymous No.4694316]

>>4694196
I honestly would shoot myself if i ever paid you for your drawings

[Anonymous No.4694328]

>>4694196
your skill level definitely isn't bad and has appeal, but surely you can draw actual heads that aren't Polandball and Friends, right? Like decent animu heads or something?

[Anonymous No.4694330]

>>4694316
thanks

[Anonymous No.4694331]

>>4694328
Yeah I can, I just usually don't because it doesn't mesh well with the polandball stuff. I still need to work a bit on expressions but I am getting better

[Anonymous No.4694422]

How much do you think I could get for generic commissions of OCs standing motionlessly in front of transparent backgrounds?

[Anonymous No.4694428]

>>4694422
F-Fuck I forgot to resize it sorry

[Anonymous No.4694430]

>>4694422
how do you do the fine hatching? feels almost traditional.

[Anonymous No.4694436]

>>4694422
With your skill level, 90+

[Anonymous No.4694472]

Starting to seriously reconsider my pricings, so yeah, how much would you guys pay for pic related?

[Anonymous No.4694496]

>>4694472
$150(at a higher resolution)

[Anonymous No.4694510]

>>4694180
post higher res but with the style I'd pay at least $80 for this.

[Anonymous No.4694513]

>>4694472
120-150

[Anonymous No.4694544]

>>4693397
1 (you)

[Anonymous No.4694570]

>>4694430
Just slightly modified the default SAI ink pen brush and added 90% berber to it. I go through every drawing and do hatching with it cuz it's very satisfying.

[Anonymous No.4694591]

>>4693673
So I'm starting out doing commissions and I'm kind of on your level, how much are you making per month give or take and is it worth all the effort?

[Anonymous No.4694593]

>>4694436
You sure anon? I don't wanna lowball and be insecure about it but I don't wanna highball and seem like a jew either.

[Anonymous No.4694645]

$0

[Anonymous No.4694650]

>>4694645
based

[Anonymous No.4694660]

>>4693843
These losers don't know anything, 200/250 is a good idea

[Anonymous No.4694662]

>>4694422
How do you get that simple light grain effect?

[Anonymous No.4694713]

>>4694268
this is really good art and i love your style but its a bit abstract and not very comissionable if that makes sense

[Anonymous No.4694733]

[Anonymous No.4694751]

I try to sell drawings in this style for 35 but I haven't had a single commission for months. How much do you think this is really worth?

[Anonymous No.4694755]

>>4694733
you have some real strenghts and weaknesses, but i'm sleepy so 8-10 dollars for a nsfw commission and I don't know how you manage other types of coms

[Anonymous No.4694756]

>>4693874
omg just look at that head lmao

please dont red line again, your construction and anatomy is dog shit.

[Anonymous No.4694759]

It's okay to sell things like this at 12 dollars? i'm just starting and I'm mostly doing concept design and studies so I think not a lot of people would buy but still

[Anonymous No.4694760]

>>4693948
based on this piece alone 15 or 20 dollars.

but coomers eat this ugly stuff up so more like 35.

[Anonymous No.4694765]

>>4694760
coomers buy shit like this for 50, let the dude get the moners

[Anonymous No.4694768]

>>4694759
also things like this

[Anonymous No.4694773]

What about traditional art?

[Anonymous No.4694776]

>>4694773
People have no real idea what traditional art is worth, I bet you could get some bozo to pay $1000 for that. It all depends on how you sell it.

[Anonymous No.4694780]

>>4693356
thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4694788]

>>4694662
On SAI at least, I miss with the layer Textures tab. The one I used on that one is Watercolor B.

[Anonymous No.4694791]

>>4694776
>how you sell
Oh... I have a closet full of paintings..

[Anonymous No.4694792]

>>4694780
fuck you

[Anonymous No.4694801]

I do mostly portrait work

[Anonymous No.4694803]

>>4694780
for the love of loli jesus study more anatomy especially feet, that foot is gross

[Anonymous No.4694806]

>>4693479
>that belly button
$300 easily

[Anonymous No.4694807]

>>4694801
And I'm gonna do ophthalmology after seeing those colors.

[Anonymous No.4694809]

>>4693843
This is professional level. 170 minimum

[Anonymous No.4694814]

>>4694807
LOL I don’t blame you. I wanted things to look “acidic” for this one. My other art typically doesn’t have such jarring color schemes.

[Anonymous No.4694816]

>>4694768
>>4694759
bump

[ppbig No.4694822]

holy. maybe 60$

[Anonymous No.4694823]

bump

[Anonymous No.4694832]

>>4693843
Honestly, you're better than some people I've seen who charge $300+ for commissions. Take that as you will. Personally I'd recommend you don't go lower than $200.

[Anonymous No.4694834]

>>4694751
Anatomy is ugly, face is mannish, and coloring is /beg/ level. Not surprised no one commissions you desu senpai.

[Anonymous No.4694835]

>>4694751
let's fucking buuuuuuuuuump

[Anonymous No.4694837]

>>4694780
>thoughts?
My thoughts are that if her foot is gonna be the forefront of the image, you should learn to draw them. Lines are sloppy in general. I wish someone would pay me for having to look at these.

[Anonymous No.4694839]

>>4694834
sorry fella, i know this isn't true 'cause it was reviewed by 2 art teachers. just be honest, it's all i'm asking

[Anonymous No.4694842]

An example of how I draw. Mostly mediocre western cartoon crud. What would you say I'm worth currently, if at all? What needs improvement? No need to sugarcoat.

[Anonymous No.4694844]

>>4693843
aroun 200-250,at least, can be double if you learn how to properly render, you have some color knowledge already since you are using a limited color gamut.

[Anonymous No.4694848]

>>4694839
You art is unappealing, maybe your middle school art teachers should have told you that.

[Anonymous No.4694849]

>>4694842
>thoose arms
I will pay you to remove this unholy creature from the face of the Earth.

[Anonymous No.4694850]

What would something like this go for?

[Anonymous No.4694851]

>>4694814
I've done jarring colors on purpose before as well. Why are your images all low quality JPGS though?

[Anonymous No.4694852]

[Anonymous No.4694853]

>>4694852
>coomer
>furry
$2000

[Anonymous No.4694855]

>>4694850
>Hogarth influence
into the trash

[bigpp No.4694860]

>>4694848
you clearly don't know what cel-shading is, that grow up adult don't have fucking loli face and how to do a "realistic" body. don't waste his time

[Anonymous No.4694861]

>>4694852
Anthro porn, the sky is the limit, especially if you're willing to cater to weird sub-fetishes like piss and shit and diapers and whatever.

[Proton Pixel No.4694864]

>>4693356
I started drawing pixel art about a week or so, I know that I'm not that good, but how much could I make form something like this?

[Anonymous No.4694865]

>>4694860
I didn't say anything about realism, I said the anatomy is ugly. Ugly =/= unrealistic.

[Proton Pixel No.4694869]

>>4694864
more pixel stuff of mine

[Anonymous No.4694870]

>>4694861
can you retards stop this stupid meme? scat fags are the most poor idiots around the fetish ground, they are usually highly autistic and work at very shit tier works so they wont pay you in gold bricks, you dumb fuck shit for brains cock sucker.

[Anonymous No.4694875]

>>4694870
t. "my scat art wasnt good enough to get noticed by the poop senpais"

[Anonymous No.4694877]

>>4694875
please rope yourself, you are not funny, not even for 4chan standards.

[Anonymous No.4694880]

>>4694877
idk I laughed.
>>4694870
honestly there's a lot of furfags with tons of neet bucks that they throw around, I dunno about scatfags specifically, but peepeepoopoo diaper lovers will shell out hundreds per comm.

[Anonymous No.4694881]

>>4694759
I quite like it but have no idea what kind of money people will pay for stuff like this.
As a rule, unless you're absolutely amazing, art that isn't coomer or fanart won't sell very good, but if you come up with a half-decent fantasy premise/story and make your own entire webcomic in this particular style and know how to shill it I think you can make a moderate fandom/patreon.

[Anonymous No.4694882]

give me money or ill make more, this is a threat

[Anonymous No.4694891]

Everything ITT is shit so far, apply yourselves.

[Anonymous No.4694893]

>>4694880
Any recommandations on where a gentleman could get in contact with said generous patrons? Asking for a friend who doesn't have any clue about this community but is willing to draw.

[Anonymous No.4694905]

I mainly do character designs like this one but I'm not sure how much I should charge for designs.

[Anonymous No.4694921]

>>4694850
this is good shit. like $80-100 minimum. double for color

[Proton Pixel No.4694922]

>>4694864
*from

[Anonymous No.4694936]

>>4694905
Chest up is good, but damn you need to work on everything below the belt. Beret needs work (Medallion-pin-things specifically, as well as rendering the cap curves), but less so than those legs. I'd give it $25-45 for the chest-up, and an additional $10-15 to hack off those legs

[Anonymous No.4694958]

>>4693356
how much for this?

[Anonymous No.4694972]

>>4694881
yeah, that's the market actually, aside from concept art (risky) and Dungeon and Dragons character commissions, which, you may not have heard about, but I promise is close to making furry commissions.

[Anonymous No.4694997]

>>4694759
I really like this

[Anonymous No.4695002]

>>4694958
Tree fiddy

[Anonymous No.4695006]

[Anonymous No.4695016]

[Anonymous No.4695019]

>>4694958
Ive never done or paid for a comission in my life, but furry art prices have their own special rules that defy convention it seems
You're better off asking in >>>/trash/commission

[Anonymous No.4695022]

>>4693608
>that halfling rolling a foraging check
kek

[Anonymous No.4695036]

>>4694842
$15
>>4694850
$30
>>4694852
$15
>>4694864
$30

>>4694869
$45
>>4694882
$20
>>4694905
$20
>>4694922
$30
>>4694958
$20

[Anonymous No.4695040]

>>4695036


>>4693397
$5
>>4693429
$30
>>4693431
$40
>>4693479
$5
>>4693514
$20
>>4693519
$20
>>4693578
$50
>>4693587
$40
>>4693608
$20
>>4693638
$15
>>4693679
$40
>>4693689
$20
>>4693843
$120
>>4693848
$50
>>4693887
$5
>>4693935
$5
>>4693948
$50
>>4693963
$75
>>4694180
$20
>>4694186
$15
>>4694196
$20
>>4694268
$10
>>4694422
$30
>>4694472
$75
>>4694733
$20
>>4694751
$40
>>4694759
$25
>>4694768
$20
>>4694773
$500
>>4694780
$25
>>4694801
$20
>>4694814
$40
>>4695006
$15

[Anonymous No.4695043]

>>4694591
>>4693689
Of course it's worth the effort. I'm building both a community and getting some work in with what I love doing even though I'm a beginner. The only "downside" is that I dont always get to draw what I want, but work is work so I'm not going to be a baby about it. If you think you can handle commissions that will give you a hard time then go for it

[Anonymous No.4695058]

>>4693843
I don't want to pay, I want to marry her, anon.

[Anonymous No.4695081]

>>4695036
>>4695040
Thanks for pricing everything and not just shitposting.
You are awesome.

[Anonymous No.4695090]

>>4694756
>please dont red line again
you can't tell me what to do. you're not my paternal figure!

[Anonymous No.4695092]

>>4695081
He priced a random post with a picture of money saved from 4chan. He's shitposting.

[Anonymous No.4695097]

>>4695092
Most of the prices he said looked pretty good and accturate.
If that is a shitpost why not post some non shitpost prices

[Anonymous No.4695100]

>>4694850
It's interesting though a little niche. The piece is thrown off though by the hatching in the cape/cloak. I would have preferred the hatching going more in the direction of the flow of the fabric.

Around $100 for the clean linework, and forms.

[Anonymous No.4695117]

>>4693397
$20
>>4693429
$50
>>4693431
$100
>>4693479
$5
>>4693514
$70
>>4693578
$40-$50
>>4693587
$55
>>4693608
$30
>>4693638
$50
>>4693679
$70
>>4693843
$200
>>4693848
$150
>>4693935
$6
>>4693948
$70
>>4694180
$40
>>4694196
$5
>>4694268
$25
>>4694422
$40
>>4694472
$80
>>4694733
$5
>>4694751
$60
>>4694759
$50
>>4694773
$5
>>4694780
$20
>>4694801
$100
>>4694842
$5
>>4694850
$200
>>4694852
$1
>>4694864
$15
>>4694905
$50
>>4694958
$15
>>4695006
$5
>>4695016
$5
>>4695036
$0
>>4695040
$0

[Anonymous No.4695122]

>>4695092
>>4695097
>$20
That roll of money is pretty close, if not professional and a major publication (before everything went photos/photoshop) would have given them probably around $200-$500. They'd also have to crank it out in a day with approvals from the art director every step of the way with room for revisions after the work is completed.

[Anonymous No.4695131]

>>4695016
Really well done. Consistent and professional looking, very sexy. Too bad they're lolis.

$300-500 if it were a normal subject matter
$600-$1000 if you find that niche audience with "acquired tastes" and money.

[Anonymous No.4695136]

>>4695117
Thanks for more non shitpost art prices anon. You rock
>>4695122
That is actually a really good and accurate chart. And you can get that much for drawing singular pictures of inanimate objects in an awful work environment? I might need to sign up

[Anonymous No.4695143]

>>4695117
>$5 for the traditional cow
>$200 for digital lineart

[Anonymous No.4695147]

Could you help me out guys?

[Anonymous No.4695153]

>>4695147
$50 if you are willing to draw weird fetish shit. Maybe only $35 though, as you diden't draw feet. (If you want weird pervert bux learn to draw feet).

$15 if that's as graphic as you draw though.

[Anonymous No.4695158]

>>4695153
thanks! by graphic what do you mean?
complexity? or lewd?

[Anonymous No.4695164]

>>4695136
As I said, that was before everything went photoshop. A spot illo like the money roll would have been used in newspapers or money magazines like Forbes. Online they don't have the need for a clean linework version of money, they'll just throw a stock photo of it on the article.

Movie posters used to be great pieces of art, but now most are just photoshop collages with some bad/overused designs.

Pretty much all the drawing done for companies now are on the production side, concept artists, speed painters, paintovers of 3D rendered characters. Not a lot of call for finished art.

[Anonymous No.4695182]

https://files.catbox.moe/swa8tk.png
how much

[Anonymous No.4695186]

>>4695016
almost as good as Alke senpai, but im pretty sure you take way less time doing the work than him, so possibly with enough time you can do just as good on your own style, I rate this 600-700 for the 2 figures of ourse.

[Anonymous No.4695198]

>>4695143
The traditional cow isn't appealing so it's manure

[Anonymous No.4695203]

>>4695164
I was curious as to what medium this was and came across this in case anyone else is interested:
https://adammcdaniel.com/RichardAmsel2.htm

[Anonymous No.4695204]

>>4695182
At least 100. Don't undersell

[Anonymous No.4695209]

>>4695198
>I don't like it so no one else will pay more than $5

big brain at work

[Anonymous No.4695221]

>>4695209
Yeah bitch

[Anonymous No.4695256]

>>4695182
>scared to click that link

[Anonymous No.4695261]

>>4695182
At least $100 if you want a lot of constant commissions, you can do $120+ though if you really want to.
>>4695256
It is safe. Just loli porn

[Anonymous No.4695281]

>>4695182
basado, around 90-100 freedom tickets

[Anonymous No.4695323]

Sorry to bother you guys again, I'm just really clueless.

[Anonymous No.4695402]

>>4695323
Generic /beg/ trash, it's worth NOTHING

[Anonymous No.4695425]

>>4695402
wtf bro

>>4695323
Based on what I've seen on this thread, 50$. To me, it'd be 30$ at most

[Anonymous No.4695432]

>>4695402
Go away Brian

[Anonymous No.4695436]

>>4695425
thanks for the help!

[Anonymous No.4695437]

>>4695432
>Go away Brian
Who?

[Anonymous No.4695459]

>>4693356
Not me but animator Ryo Imamura said he was running out of money and opening commission with 5000 Yen/piece. That's less than 50 $, crazy that god-tier animators are starving in their own country. Pic related is his sketch art.

[Anonymous No.4695471]

>>4695432
Schizo

[Anonymous No.4695472]

>>4695459
>God tier
weebs have no taste at all

[Anonymous No.4695483]

curious what people would pay for a sketch page of their character

[Anonymous No.4695484]

>>4695483
If you can stay consistent is not bad, I like the style, don't know how much is worth but is not bad.

[Anonymous No.4695490]

>>4695459
There's no way this is modeled after a woman. This has to be a male body. I know because it gave me a boner and my dick is never wrong. Unf those scapulae

[Anonymous No.4695504]

>>4695483
that's a nice aesthetic. a simple, clean illustration in that style, with just a bit of texture in places, could sell for 30 I think.

[Anonymous No.4695508]

>>4695472
Crab
>>4695490
he likes to draw huge knockers too

[Anonymous No.4695514]

>>4695459
>>4695508
Anon what is his Skeb or Twitter?

[Anonymous No.4695522]

Do monochrome works tend be to less valued than color? If so, is it by a significant amount?

[Anonymous No.4695523]

Never got any money from my art so have no idea about anything commission related
Although it might be because I just draw generic anime girls

[Anonymous No.4695530]

>>4695514
normal account:
https://twitter.com/jusjusojus
commission account and skeb link:
https://twitter.com/samomo3mo3/status/1246870973111910401

his rate might be higher now since he got a lot of requests though.

[Anonymous No.4695534]

>>4695522
Yes monochrome art is significantly less... People generally like colorful reflections of characters. Cute art style btw
>>4695523
People like generic anime girls though.
Having an art style that is familiar to people will definitely sell just fine, sometimes people just want normal nice looking but familiar feeling art.
Also youe art is super sharp and nice. I am awful at pricing but good job

[Anonymous No.4695537]

>>4695530
he doesn't accept commission of characters from anime that he has worked on before though. So you might check first:
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=ryo_imamura

Most likely you'll be fine if you commission vtuber/game character/original character/manga character

[Anonymous No.4695539]

>>4695537
What’s with all the broken lines, does he make short strokes over a sketch? Does he lasso his line work and transform it? Or erase pieces of the sketch?

[Anonymous No.4695547]

>>4695539
Not sure how he does that but I like it, I believe his biggest inspiration is animator Takahiro Kishida (also a great character designer).

[Anonymous No.4695556]

Dm me on instagram, would love to do some commissions at negotiatable price, @I_art_marlon stay blessed senpai

[Anonymous No.4695560]

>>4695547
from the looks of this he might not even do an undersketch first, in which case >>4695537 is super impressive.

[Anonymous No.4695562]

>>4695560
It looks like a style of inking. If there is no undersketch is it just a lasso?

Just curious how the line break aesthetic is produced, or maybe her just thinks in small bite sized lines

[Anonymous No.4695573]

>>4694801
saved
>>4693935
saved

i'm totally broke though

[Anonymous No.4695589]

>>4693397
1
>>4693429
10
>>4693431
20
>>4693514
5
>>4693578
5
>>4693587
25
>>4693608
3
>>4693638
3
>>4693679
15
>>4693689
3
>>4693843
15 since it's just a traced pin up
>>4693848
35 work on your hard edges and use the soft brush properly
>>4693935
20 it's interesting but you can't put a technical value onto it, the right buyer could give you a few k for it if you have a brand
>>4693948
5
>>4693963
3
>>4694180
2
>>4694422
18 the hands are almost appealing and the hatching makes sense
>>4694472
5
>>4694733
1
>>4694751
2
>>4694759
18 would fit for books, as your brand increases so does your value
>>4694780
2
>>4694801
6 there are better ways to create a similar aesthetic other than relying on chromatic overuse and blurry fuzzyness
>>4694842
2
>>4694850
15
>>4694852
1
>>4694864
2
>>4694882
2
>>4694905
3
>>4694958
1
>>4695016
30 the aesthetic is unappealing af but the technical knowledge is decent
>>4695182
1

I assume that a lot will feel offended just by the ego nature of young artists and since a lot of big numbers get thrown around here (by beginner artists who'd like to have these numbers themselves, not by paying customers)

Asian artists, especially the new wave of pseudo-cali style ones, will create a ten times better work and ask for peanuts.

[Anonymous No.4695598]

>>4695589
can't have threads like these without posters like these i guess

[Anonymous No.4695605]

Ignore the DeviantArt-looking OC

[Anonymous No.4695614]

>>4695589
Chinese sweatshop-kun pls GO

[Anonymous No.4695620]

>>4695589
Troll post but still, half the people you priced at Ethiopian prices actually do sell commissions at those "big numbers".
I used to regularly sell pictures in this style for $30 to $40 and looking back I am surprised I was selling these at that price so easily. If you are confident in your price and put yourself out there you will get people who really like and want to buy your stuff

[Anonymous No.4695624]

[Anonymous No.4695673]

>>4695624
Awesome art! at least $100 for sure

[Anonymous No.4695696]

>>4695620
Do you remember how many followers you had back then, when you sold at 30/40$?

[Anonymous No.4695703]

Is it cringe to start commissions when I'm not good yet and don't have more than 30 followers

[Anonymous No.4695715]

>>4695624
Really? Thanks. I usually charge $60 for full body/rendered since that seems to be the average people charge from what I've seen.

[Anonymous No.4695722]

>>4695715
oops meant for >>4695673

[Anonymous No.4695739]

>>4695696
I had around 350 followers. I also was hustling on foot on Reddit and Facebook
>>4695703
No! That is completely fine. Just post comms you do and if you have time try to do fanart and stuff too to get some more followers.
>>4695715
I think 60 is too low for sure! Even $75 would be a really good deal.
Prices depend on the quality of the fullbody and it is always hard to properly appraise your own artwork. $60 is for one that is pretty average and yours is above average so it should have a higher price

[Anonymous No.4695752]

Top left is a commission i did for 70
i've included two other personal pics because i only really have top left to show. Bottom right is a thumbnail i did for the same client and he sent 60 for now. I let him decide how much he'll pay when it's done. He liked it so far

[Anonymous No.4695778]

>>4695589
based schizo

[Anonymous No.4695780]

how much should i charge?

[Anonymous No.4695801]

>>4695589
Retard with shit taste

[Anonymous No.4695804]

>>4695780
Pretty Nice colors, beyond that dunno, theres one gorillion other dudes doing "le fantasy robot xdxdxd" so good luck

[Anonymous No.4695837]

>>4695560
>>4695562
its digital, the underdrawing is on another layer.

[Anonymous No.4695861]

>>4695752
Start charging a couple dozens buck more

[Anonymous No.4695940]

>>4695752
people said $100 minimum for mine and yours are at least on the same level or a bit better, meu amigo.

[Anonymous No.4695946]

>>4695459
>less than 50 $
dude is an actual professional animator, he probably can iron full finished pieces in less than 2 hours

[Anonymous No.4695947]

>>4695752
$70 is a steal. Probably should be charging 2-3x that. Good use of colors and modeling. Except for the autistic face on Sailor Moon, it looks like you have the experience to draw many different styles.

Frankly, all my prices I've quoted here are for finished traditional pieces that someone can hold in their hands when done. It has some value outside of pixels on a screen, so one pays more for its uniqueness.

Should digital artists be paid less because the medium is virtual, even though they may put the same amount of work into a piece as a trad artist?

[Anonymous No.4695956]

>>4695947
>Should digital artists be paid less because the medium is virtual,
Nothing stops you from printing and mailing your shit if you want to, which is exactly what thousands of GOOD artists do

[Leazard No.4695958]

How about these?

[Leazard No.4695961]

>>4695958
>(
also this

[Anonymous No.4696071]

Whatya think? DM me @zap_2020

[Anonymous No.4696077]

>>4696071
Fucking repulsive kek

[Anonymous No.4696110]

>>4695956
>Nothing stops you from printing and mailing your shit if you want to, which is exactly what thousands of GOOD artists do

I do ship out my stuff because I'm working traditionally. But if you fully work up a piece digitally, is there a point of printing it out and shipping it to someone? What RL value does it have since it's not one of kind? Do digital artists go and delete the master files afterwards? I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.4696152]

>>4696110
>But if you fully work up a piece digitally, is there a point of printing it out and shipping it to someone
Yes. They enjoy your artwork and want to decorate their surroundings with it. Is it that hard to understand?
>>4696110
>What RL value does it have since it's not one of kind
Who the fuck cares, merchandise is merchandise.

[Anonymous No.4696159]

>>4695752
Why is dexter’s mom’s arm so small?

[Anonymous No.4696173]

[Anonymous No.4696191]

>>4695589
are you dumb, stupid or dumb?
if you're gonna troll at least pick some reasonable prices like >>4695036 >>4695040 did

[Anonymous No.4696261]

how much could I get realistically for something of this "quality" if my social networking skills are 0?

[Anonymous No.4696332]

>>4695589
You seem well versed in prices. I was gonna commision at $10 once i got better than pic related. Am I underselling?

[Anonymous No.4696339]

>>4696332
Can you be more souless and generic?

[Anonymous No.4696342]

>>4696339
>>>4696332 (You)
>Can you be more souless and generic?
Precisely why I considered 10.

[Anonymous No.4696388]

>>4696152
>They enjoy your artwork and want to decorate their surroundings with it.
Then they can have someone local print it up to their specifications. Print it on canvas and frame it if they want.

The best I can do is a 13x19 inkjet, and making one-offs like that is a waste of time for a digital artist. It's not like they're wrapping up a physical piece they worked and polished, be satisfied with a job well done (maybe feeling it's one of the best they've ever done), and let it go to someone who paid for it, and appreciate it for the piece's uniqueness.

>Who the fuck cares, merchandise is merchandise.
Owning an original piece of art and hanging it on your wall
Owning a photocopy of an original piece of art and hanging it on your wall

"It's the same thing!"

[Anonymous No.4696405]

>>4693479
You could make a living off of fatfurs.

[Anonymous No.4696408]

>>4696405
Here we go again...

[Anonymous No.4696425]

>>4694713
I think I understand anon, it does not have the polished / finished look. I like it as is though, thank you for replying

[Anonymous No.4696440]

>>4695752
my goal rn is to learn to render like this guy

[Anonymous No.4696460]

>>4696440
Make a better signature asukafag

[Anonymous No.4696527]

>>4696440
did some one cum in her armpits?

[Anonymous No.4696543]

>>4695153
>If you want weird pervert bux learn to draw feet

This is absolutely true. I've ignored so many potential artists to commission because they couldn't draw good feet to save their lives.

[Anonymous No.4696582]

>>4695589
>he doesn’t know I’ve sold my pieces for over $100

[Anonymous No.4696629]

>>4696582
Rupees

[Anonymous No.4696633]

>>4696582
Pesos*

[Anonymous No.4696662]

>>4696582
Then why are you in this thread?

[Anonymous No.4696712]

>>4696543
Well, coincidentally I'm a footfag so... what do you think? Take into account that it's still unfinished (the hair is shit and I have to add some effects)

[Anonymous No.4696729]

Please help a dumbass out, lads.

[Anonymous No.4696813]

>>4696729
work on your color theory, it's the one thing that makes this piece feel cheap and amateurish.

[Anonymous No.4696814]

>>4693935
looks like the newspaper on the floor that you throw away when the painting is done.

[Anonymous No.4696825]

>>4696729
$120

[Anonymous No.4696827]

>>4694422
This is a cute and sexy design
I'm gonna take some aspects from it

[Anonymous No.4696834]

>>4696440
it looks like you are tracing over a wooden puppet. everything is so stiff. joints are so awkwardly compressed. i think you need to work on gesture and figure drawings. its good that you want to construct from imagination, but you are drawing like an industrial designer. even er face looks inanimate.

[Anonymous No.4696881]

>>4696712
I'd rate it a 8/10 foot. Pretty good shape and proportions on the toes, but the bottom and sole looks kinda weird (maybe due to lack of detail idk). I prefer them to be doing something more dynamic than just being right up in my face (flexing, footjob, stretching, etc)

[Anonymous No.4697089]

>>4695861
>>4695940
>>4695947
I see, i'll try raising prices once i reach a decent amount of followers. I can't really do it right now because i'm still at 1300. The dude i'm working for right now is really polite though, it's enjoyable work so i can't complain.
>>4696440
I follow you but i don't remember your username, Asukafag. Dm me on twitter, i got some resources to share if you want. Drawing is way harder and more important than painting, though.

[Anonymous No.4697099]

>>4697089
Can you share them here?

[Anonymous No.4697104]

code?

[Anonymous No.4697111]

>>4697104
for
>>4693684

[Anonymous No.4697115]

Should I lower my prices because I take a long time

[Anonymous No.4697126]

Note: this was done last year, my current works I can't post because they are part of a zine.

I'm thinking maybe $15
It takes me around a week or more because I have work

[Anonymous No.4697131]

>a week of work for $15
You people are a lost cause

[Anonymous No.4697140]

>>4697131
What price would be good then?

its not a week of work more like maybe 3-4 full days.
I just cant spend full days
weekdays I take care of my sibling/do house chores
Weekends I work from 9-8, by the time I get home, I'm exhausted. so i cant spend a lot of time on art.

[Anonymous No.4697146]

>>4693587
>>4697089
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4697176]

Here's something I had worked on a year ago that I just got around to "finishing". Much of my work has been greyscale since I've really only worked in pencils and drawing for most of my life, but I'm transitioning into color. I want to start selling greyscale drawings now while I'm learning though.

Thanks in advance to anyone who answers honestly.

[Anonymous No.4697224]

>>4696077
Better? I'm on twitter @zap_2020

[Anonymous No.4697225]

>>4695143
:) It sucks. Everyone knows Trad is inferior now. Digital master race.

[Anonymous No.4697227]

>>4697131
Let them be retarded and make less money lmao. More for me cause I charge properly for my art and funny enough the high prices have brought in more customers, to the point where I have to keep upping the prices due to the high demand :)

[Anonymous No.4697240]

>>4697176
That's pretty good anon. I'm not sure about anatomy, but I would pay between $15-$20 for a grqyscaled bust piece.

[Anonymous No.4697260]

>>4697240
Thanks for the response anon. The anatomy isn't fully representative of my current work since It was mostly complete when I started reworking on it and the sketch is almost a year old, but I could definitely stand to improve. I'll keep it in mind.

[Anonymous No.4697538]

>>4696881
Yeah, I know, the pose turned out not very interesting... but be sure I'll be working on that! Thanks for the feedback anon

[Anonymous No.4697552]

>>4697225
you underestimate normies.

[Anonymous No.4698345]

>>4697224
NO NOT BETTER LEAVE ME ALONE NIGGER I DONT WANT TO DM YOU ON TWITTER

[Anonymous No.4699167]

>>4696813
Oh, damn, color theory sure wasn't something I expected to get a "git gud" comment on, lol. But, yeah, now that you've mentioned it, I think I see where you're coming from and so I have a few ideas on what I should work on about it to produce better stuff. Still, if you could point out specific mistakes or just give me some general ideas on what you think I should work on to make my colors less cheap-looking, I would really appreciate it -- probably in the next thread, though, since this one is already on its way out. Ah, and thanks, of course, for the feedback.

>>4696825
pls no bully

[Anonymous No.4699222]

>>4693356
Here's something I made. What about a piece like this?

[Anonymous No.4699266]

>>4697146
https://www.instagram.com/_sphinxfire/

[Anonymous No.4699654]

>>4696729
How? How did you achieve digital painting? It's amazingly great in terms of painting techniques and it's something I haven't made progress on at most.

[Anonymous No.4699673]

>>4697099
Sure. I've gone through a lot of lectures and video courses and these are the ones that taught me the most:
>Advanced Lighting with Sam Nielson
This should be a priority. He goes from basic physics fundamentals of light all the way to applying this knowledge to your actual work. I don't really like his art, but he knows his stuff. Everyone should watch this eventually
>Mastering Light and Form - Dorian Iten
It repeats a lot of things from Sam Nielson's course, but it focus more on how to model form with light.
>Color Basics (Lecture) By Mike Azevedo
This is on his gumroad. It focus on color temperature and he shows how he is thinking when he's picking colors during his process. It's pretty short and his work is amazing, so it's worth your time. He also made a short tutorial on color theory for Wacom. It's on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErI7gIWzxlY
>Marco Bucci youtube videos
If you watched all of the stuff listed above, you'll already know 90% of what he's saying here, but it's a nice recap, he explains a different tought process in the second video and these videos are masterfully presented. Worth the watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fLV5ezO64w and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwLQ0cDb4cE
>timbougami/timlochner gumroad
His color theory is top notch, but he's not a teacher. His process is pretty organized and you can learn a thing or two about layer modes. I wish Alke had a gumroad too
>Digital Painting with Craig Mullins
Honestly i don't remember most of it, it was the first one i watched and i was too /beg/ to make use of his teachings, but i remember it was good. I'm planning to go though it again soon.

It's all on cgpeers but i'm not encouraging anyone to download anything from there.

[Anonymous No.4699675]

>>4699673

And there's one personal thing about processes: always think about the components of light individually so you're never lost and you can easilly identify what went wrong when the piece starts to look bad.
It usually goes like. I've seen Mike Azevedo, Sam Nielson and Tim Lochner doing it and it helps a lot
For them it usually goes like this:
>flats (thinking only about local color and local value in relation to the elements around each object)
>occlusion
>key light (block in major shadow shapes, always remembering the temperature of your light sources)
>fill light + bounce light
>merge everything and render it
And don't be afraid to mess with adjustment layers like curves, color balance, etc.
>>4697146
i post on @pokinha

[Anonymous No.4699676]

>>4699675
post was too long and i had to split it in two, that's why i messed up the second paragraph