/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4679689]

Why do literally all 2010s+ comics look so fucking bland to me? Are there modern comics/artists that are as good as Todd McFarlane, Jim Lee or Mike Mignola or titles with interesting art like Sin City or Watchmen?

[Anonymous No.4679692]

>>4679689
>Todd McFarlane
>good

[Anonymous No.4679695]

>>4679692
Absolute Shittaste, go jerk off to tranny squirrel girl by Henderson

[Anonymous No.4679827]

>>4679689

[Anonymous No.4679847]

>>4679692
Todd macfarlane is good at drawing. It’s his designs that are inconsistent.

[Anonymous No.4679883]

>>4679689
>Todd McFarlane, Jim Lee
It's funny you cite these two as 'good.' After the 90s they were emblematic of an era of bad American comic art (Rob Liefeld considered the worse).
You would have to go back much further to find the really good stuff: Mike Ploog (attached), Jack Kirby, Wallace Wood, Bernie Wrightson, etc.

[Anonymous No.4679908]

>>4679689
seems like you're nostalgic. I feel the same about european comics from the 70s and 80s. If you're unhappy about the current styles, pick up from where it went wrong and make it right. see where it brings you and redefine the industry.
at least that's what I am doing.

[Anonymous No.4679915]

>>4679689
>Why do literally all 2010s+ comics look so fucking bland to me
>to me
how the fuck am i supposed to know? i'm not you.

[Anonymous No.4679919]

>>4679689
Everything becames bland when it becomes minstream. That's why anime lost it's spark too, it used to adapt more weird stuff like kodomo no jikan in the 00's but now it's just isekai garbage and shonen.

[Anonymous No.4680023]

>>4679919
man of culture

[Anonymous No.4680034]

>>4679908
Yeah, the difference is European comics from the 70s and 80s were actually good, it's more than nostalgia. I love American comics from the 50s-70s, even though I never lived through that period.
My youth was during the time OP is referencing, and while seeing 90s McFarlane might induce a little nostalgia, I know it was far from a high point in art.

[Anonymous No.4680478]

>>4679695
SOUL

[Anonymous No.4680487]

no, because college artists aka the only artist that can break into the commercial industry of comics learn zero about dynamic lights, perspective or basic fundies but instead are half the time being taught to be writers and the other showing way to minimsiing time on a sketch

[Anonymous No.4680514]

>>4680478
Better than 99% of /ic/

[Anonymous No.4681008]

>>4679883
>After the 90s they were emblematic of an era of bad American comic art

Only Liefeld. While McFarlane was emblematic of the "era" in so far as Image was the focal point of the artists' rights movement, he was always considered a top-tier artist, which is why Image was considered such a big deal in the first place. Don't forget that Jim Lee is also one of the top names from the 90s and co-founded Image with Todd.

[Anonymous No.4681356]

>>4681008
While McFarlane's work has a certain charm, I remember him being mocked for his wonky poses and impossible capes even in the 90s.

Jim Lee's work has gotten better with age, his Batman stuff is really good. Marc Silvestri is an artist from that era that is respected even by people who like more classic stuff.

[Anonymous No.4681413]

>>4681356
>Not thinking that shit is the raddest ever

[Anonymous No.4681432]

>>4679883
Mc Farlane is better than both imo. People tend to forget that Lee and Liefeld were not far away from each other in those years. Lee got better because he's more responsible when it comes to his art. Mc Farlane does more iconic stuff though, which puts him above the others for me. His style might look "weird" but the iconic factor is something i enjoy much more than technically "good" drawings.

[Anonymous No.4681437]

>>4680478
I agree with the soul part unironically. Gotta love creative paneling like that.

[Anonymous No.4681441]

>>4681356
imagine Jean Paul Valley Batman drawn by Mc Farlane

[Anonymous No.4681463]

>>4679689
>Frank Miller

[Anonymous No.4681606]

How does the average american comic even look now? I stopped reading then in the mid 2000s

[Anonymous No.4681837]

>>4681606
if you look at one single comic you might thing "hey, this looks good", but if you look at ten of them, you'll understand that the comic making process in america is streamlined as fuck

[Anonymous No.4682344]

>>4681356
The background was literally copypasted from the Akira manga. Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.4682355]

>>4682344
Good eye

[Anonymous No.4683744]

>>4681437
it reads terribly though, sword facing left in panel 1, does a 180 in panel 2.

[Anonymous No.4683773]

>>4682344
>>4681356
apparently there's some sort of thing between Akira and Batman

[Anonymous No.4683777]

>>4683773
>same animation studio(?)

[Anonymous No.4683787]

>>4683777
that doesn't explain >>4682344

[Anonymous No.4683795]

>>4682344
Damn. Nice catch anon.

[Anonymous No.4683796]

>>4679689
A lot of people make a big deal about these artists, but I just really don't see. They are good, don't get me wrong, it's just that I don't see the hype? Especially with Mignola or 90s Jim Lee.

I do appreciate many of the artists now. I do like people are trying more things.

[Anonymous No.4683894]

>>4683773
This is homage
>>4682344
>>4681356
This is Todd being a hack

[Anonymous No.4683897]

>>4683796
Mignola is dope tho, he has a consistent style using light and shadow shapes appealingly.

[Anonymous No.4683907]

>>4683796
Mignola is the closest thing you'll get to an artist working with euro mindsets and practices in America. Watch that Moebius doc, he's in there and says something very telling about the american comics industry.

[Anonymous No.4683914]

>>4683907
What does he say I don’t like watching things I like reading

[Anonymous No.4683961]

>>4679689
Ok boomer

[Anonymous No.4683983]

>>4683961
>words words words
>tumblr art

[Anonymous No.4683991]

>>4683961
Is that supposed to be "good" art?

[Anonymous No.4686126]

>>4683961
This unironically looks meh tho, like something a Tumblr girl would draw and not to mention that the coloring is too bland