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[Anonymous No.4670607]

What is your digital painting workflow?

[Anonymous No.4670609]

1. draw a stupid comfortzone sketch of an anime girl
2. become frustrated im not progressing
3. anxiety sets in
4. unplug all cords to laptop
5. run upstairs
6. lock the door
7. fap
8. feel like shit

and then yeah i basically rinse and repeat

[Anonymous No.4670611]

Sketch > layer beneath the sketch to lay down a basic map of color and values > merge layers > clipping mask layer on top of the merged layer to render and define/clean up linework where i want it

[Anonymous No.4670612]

>>4670609
Gmi

[Anonymous No.4670616]

>>4670607
Idea, Sketch, pick light directions, color block-in, render/detail/refine edges, effects (glowing shit, rim light, or whatever), adjust color/levels as needed and other adjustments like noise, sharpness, blur.

[Anonymous No.4670617]

>>4670609
at least you don't give up.

>>4670611
how much rendering do you do under the sketch?

[Anonymous No.4670624]

>make a line layer to draft quick ideas
>make a paint layer to draft quick color schemes underneath line layer
>render important parts
done.

[Anonymous No.4670629]

>>4670616
This is the last time lapse I recorded on digital I think
https://www.instagram.com/p/BuEhHkqlbs3/?igshid=13sp0vfr8cp2l

[Anonymous No.4670644]

>>4670609
fucking this

[Anonymous No.4670653]

>>4670629
>failed art account

[Anonymous No.4670654]

>>4670607
I don't have one, I draw, line art. digital painting is a trap, what are you gonna do with it? post on line and not do anything else with it? with line art I can make animations, comics, concept art etc. dont fall for the digital painting trap, what is this 2008 deviant art?

[Anonymous No.4670660]

>>4670607
1 try to think something cool to draw
2 nothing came to my mind
3 look for coom pictures to use as reference
4 make a scketch, looks fine
5 make the lineart, still looks fine
6 paint the base colors, looks ok
7 start making shadows, hey think i'll post it when it's done
8 start making lights, i think this was a bad idea
9 make some adjustments to the image, wtf why this looks so bad now?
10 ok i'll fix it someday
11 last file modification five years ago

[Anonymous No.4670664]

>>4670660
>1 try to think something cool to draw

you know this seems to be hard for a lot of people but with all the hundreds of reference images we accumulate over the years you would think we easily just skim through out folders and just combine a couple of refs to make something cool, but I never think about doing that when I'm staring at the blank screen trying to come up with something. The spark of inspiration just doesn't come when I want it

[Anonymous No.4670672]

>>4670664
In my case i spend most of the day thinking what im going to draw when the time to draw came. I'm quite a rutinarie person, so i draw always at the same time for the same amount of hours.

[Anonymous No.4670684]

>>4670607
I cycle through various phases. sometimes I'll just do simple sketches and try to nail down line quality, sometimes I'll focus entirely on color, sometimes I'll study anatomy or try to nail shape relationships or tangents. then I sort of oscillate between complex and simple, both in terms of subject matter and number of compositional elements. at the same time I'll collect ideas.
then, when I've found my balance, I'll do a couple finished illustrations that incorporate all those aspects until I get fed up with my current skill level/aesthetic and return to practising.
in terms of the workflow of the illustrations, I don't do anything complicated. all you need is well-organized layer groups, some custom brushes with good control that synergize well and a process that integrates all the things you do in practice, which is something you find naturally through iteration.

[Anonymous No.4670736]

>>4670664
That's why I always browse twitter in the morning for some inspiration

[Anonymous No.4670759]

>>4670607
Still a beg experimenting, but
>Draw sketch with small hard round no opacity
>Erase sketchy parts for inked part
>Make new layer under
>In under layer paint sold grey inside the lines
>lock under layer and start painting
>Put flats and basic big gradients
>Start painting with big hard round no opacity
>Once big splotches are in start using hard round for basic transitions using varying opacities and sizes
>Use small arirbrush with lasso tool
>Use blur tool if color pick 50% opacity doesn't work

[Anonymous No.4670806]

I don't know, I'm stuck at the flats stage

1. construction + quick sketch
optional: cleaner sketch
2. Lineart
3. Flat colors
4. ????

pic related is not mine, but that's basically as far as I can get without fucking it up with poor attempts of shading and highlights and rendering. I don't know how to fix it.

[Anonymous No.4670813]

>>4670806
4. Block in flats for shadows
5. Blend soft edges

That's it.

[Anonymous No.4670830]

>>4670607
>chaotic scribbles
>rough sketch
>less rough sketch
>semi-clean sketch
>clean line sketch
>new layer below
>add greyscale local values
>new layer above the values but below the lines
>clipping mask
>add hard shadows and settle on lighting
>new layer above the hard shadows
>clipping mask
>add deep shadows for folds, wrinkles, recessed areas
>new layer, clipping mask
>add softer ambient light, imply bounce light, soften some edges, start blending and rendering
>work up to a decent level of finish
>new layer above the lines
>colorize lines, colorize gray scale values
>use adjustment layers for more color Variation and harmony
>new layer
>start color picking and manually painting and rendering on top
>slowly include subtle hue shifts and variation
>keep going and render as much as I like

[Anonymous No.4670837]

>>4670830
How long does each piece take you?

[Anonymous No.4670843]

>>4670830
Autism

[Anonymous No.4670845]

>>4670607
>have no idea wtf I'm doing
>looks like shit
>stop and do something else
>forget about for weeks
>Come back
>repeat

[Anonymous No.4671123]

>>4670607
>not digital
not digital

>>>Studio
>find ref
>grid
>do under drawing (this can be rough)
>Solid wash with background colors (cover all canvas)
>Block in >value >color
>render (This is the part where you can cheat in some brush economy)
>Dry
>Varnish

>>>Plein Air
>Draw
>Paint
>Fight black flies
>Paint
>Fight Mosquitoes
>Paint
>Piss behind tree
>Paint
>Eat Lunch
>Paint
>Paint
>Be nice to tourists
>Paint
>Paint (studio)
>Dry
>Varnish

Just paint what you see lol. People on this sight are far too obsessed with structuring their work flow over actually doing work. They over-complicate something that they are just learning by adding a completely different means of manipulation on top of it. Painting can be as straight forward as putting a brush on a surface until you like what you see. Mistakes are a natural part of learning to paint because fixing them the hard way is half of practice. Layers are godly in their utility, but I think the convenience of having an option to undo entirely is detrimental to "learning by doing". By physically making something we gain satisfaction and a greater appreciation for or successes. I think this is having a large impact on people's ability to retain interest in their own art. It's also great to have a literal stack of failure close to you, in case your ego ever needs a check.

[Anonymous No.4671156]

>stuck on idea
>stuck on idea
>stuck on idea
>sketch
>it's awful
>erase it
>stuck on idea
>stuck on idea
I'm not going to make it

[Anonymous No.4671185]

>start sketch of an idea
>soulless
>iterate on idea with new pose and energy
>still soulless
>iterate again with a similar pose but with better body language
>looks like shit
>finally try to look at some references
>looks 10000x better but still soulless

i don’t think i’m going to make it bros....

[Anonymous No.4671197]

>>4671123
>impressionism
>mess of strokes
you do realize what impressionism is right?

[Anonymous No.4671205]

>>4670609
Based

[Anonymous No.4671213]

>>4670837
Depends on the piece. It takes a couple hours if I’m just rendering out a head, few days if there’s an environment, full body, difficult pose, etc.
>>4670843
True

[Anonymous No.4671236]

Mine changes a bit. I usually make my sketch layer my line layer.
Locked layer underneath fir values/color.
Usually end up merging and rendering over

[Anonymous No.4671239]

>>4671236
Or i just blob silhouettes and mess with rendering.

[Anonymous No.4671263]

>>4671236
This is actually quite nice, you could improve it adding more contrast in some areas where is light, like in the eyes for example.

[Anonymous No.4671265]

>>4670653
fels badman :(

[Anonymous No.4671283]

>watch speedpaints
>watch art 'lives' on insta
>put on some music from a playlist with the emotion i want
>do a study
>rough some poses
>blow up a pose and do a cleaner sketch
break to get more water, stretch my hands bc they be lockin
>grab snack
>do color blocking
>light render
>change sketch color to whatever fits w/ my scheme
>merge
>start rendering
>liquify slightly if somethings off
>flip canvas
>start on small detailing/outlines
>blend those

[Anonymous No.4673333]

>>4671197
The reference is from Fritz Thaulow. The literal portrait of an impressionist artist, literally painting impressionist paintings. pls.

>"mess of strokes"

ngmi

[Anonymous No.4673540]

1.sketch thumbnails I’ll ignore later but do them to feel like an artist
2. Compile reference
3. Draw
4.paint
5. Post online for endorphins hit from insta likes
6. Only my aunt and mom hit like
7. Jerk off toRachel Starr booty vids for that sweet endorphins
8. Check back to IG
9. My moms neighbor like the pic too

[Anonymous No.4673558]

1. Sketch Layer
2. Cleanup Layer
3. Color Layer
4. Shade Layer
5. Highlight Layer
6. Detail Layer
7. Detail Layer
8. Texture Layer
9. Detail Layer
10. Detail Layer
11. Texture Layer
12. Detail Layer
13. Shade Layer
14. Overlay Layer
15. Detail Layer
16. Color Dodge Layer
17. Detail Layer
18. Highlite Layer
19. Detail Layer
20. Detail Layer
21. Detail Layer
22. Overlay Layer
23. Detail Layer
25. Cleanup Layer
26. Highlight Layer
27. Detail layer

And that's how my digital pieces end up being a rats nest of layers piled up on top of each other that periodically have to be flattened before I drown in chaos.

[Anonymous No.4673633]

>>4670607
Sketch a few things out for an idea, thumbnail size.
Pick the one I like best.
Blow it up and sketch more details and fix things up I think need tweeking.
Ink layer.
Base color layer.
Shadows layer.
Highlights layer.
Extra layer for background and text.
Done.

Sometimes if I want a more painterly style, I keep all the coloring on one layer for better unity, I frankly don't understand people that need to create a shitload of layers unless they are making something like a comic or multiple characters where you need to be able to manipulate different objects separately.

[Anonymous No.4673658]

>>4670609
FUCKING THIS

[Anonymous No.4673671]

>>4670736
this but with Artstation

[Anonymous No.4673675]

You'll gonna hate me for this
>Gather reference
>Do a loose sketch
>Search web for 3d models
>Optional: adjust 3d models and model the vocal point
>Block in scene in 3d, add 3d models
>Light the scene, find camera angles
>Add textures, render scene
>Add photo(textures)
>Multiple passes of akvis for painerly feel.
>Paintover
>Post processing

Get paid

[Anonymous No.4673679]

>>4670609
Unironically based and GMI-pilled.

[Anonymous No.4674572]

>>4673675
why would anyone hate, when you're getting bread?

[Anonymous No.4674585]

>>4670607
1.sketch really rough
2. paint over the sketch (its all the same layer)

[Anonymous No.4674594]

>>4673675
Literally pascal blanche’s workflow. Nothing special brah.

[Anonymous No.4674753]

>>4670607
Do you guys have any video tutorials I can watch to learn digital painting and a good workflow for it?
I wanna move away from using lineart and filling it.

[Anonymous No.4674773]

>>4674753
I think, every reply in this thread is a possible workflow for you to try out. That's kind of why I started the thread, I wanted to get into digital painting. There are infinite possible workflows, and every single one of them works

[Anonymous No.4674936]

>>4674594
>pascal blanche
Just looked him up, just as as bad as it sounds given the use of premade assets, half the shit is just Moebius ripping off and the rest other artists.

[Anonymous No.4674943]

>>4674936
I think his work is appealing. What other artists does he rip off? I’ll probably like them too.

[Anonymous No.4677758]

>>4674936
>Moebius
hahaha holy shit you're right

[Anonymous No.4678231]

>>4673540
this is why I stopped posting on instagram. Only my old high school friends liked my posts and I felt like I just kept embarrassing myself with every drawing. I feel so stagnant man.

[Anonymous No.4678237]

>>4670607
>draw
>keep drawing
>draw until it looks good
>finish drawing

[Anonymous No.4678605]

>>4673540
just be a drawfag for /v/ or /tg/ or something and BOOM instant endorphins.
If you got something of quality to show, might as well show it to strangers.

[Anonymous No.4678618]

well i gotta say it's my big struggle
my sketches get very messy
then when I try to do a clean new lines on another layer, I lose the appeal of the sketch and most importantly forms become more flat, as I focus on detailed lines zoomed in and cant' see the bigger form.
I just can't progress with this aspect of drawing

[Anonymous No.4678622]

>>4678618
for comaprison in these I tried to clean up the sketch layer and didnt do new layer lines
but it's messy

[Anonymous No.4680129]

>>4678622
Middle pic looks clean enough. Try painting over the lines and drawing them again, if you get what I mean.

[Anonymous No.4680315]

>>4671239
>>4671236
This page is a mix of the 2 and its fun.

[Anonymous No.4680329]

>>4678618
>when I try to do a clean new lines on another layer, I lose the appeal of the sketch and most importantly forms become more flat
I used to have issues with this as well. The trick is to put less work into your basic sketch, and put all the work into your lineart. If you put all your effort into the sketch working out problems and refining, then your sketch becomes the drawing and gains all of the soul. But if you save the working out problem areas and cleaning up for the lineart layer, then all of the soul and effort goes into the lineart. Try to work cleaner in this but don't be afraid to just clean up as you go. You'll find that your lineart doesn't get sterilized.

[Anonymous No.4680508]

>>4671239
That's a really nice style, where can I follow you?

[Anonymous No.4680582]

>>4680508
https://twitter.com/GoblinKingArt/media
https://www.instagram.com/goblin_cavescribbles/

[Anonymous No.4681121]

>>4673675
If you make a video I'll love you forever. I'm too retarded for this world

[Anonymous No.4681170]

>>4678622
i like the one on the right

[Anonymous No.4681192]

>Grab doodle
>Paste on CSP
>sketch for 40 min
>make layer and use paintbucket etc.
>looks like shit
>have to re draw some part
>messing around layer
>everything goes like horse shit
>over 40 layer

[Anonymous No.4681412]

>>4673671
this but with Pixiv