/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4651707]

Post character designs you can't stand

[Anonymous No.4651715]

Any moeblob and 99% of anime characters.

[Anonymous No.4651717]

>>4651707

[Anonymous No.4651718]

>>4651707
The woman on the far left reminds me of someone you know, op.

[Anonymous No.4651726]

anything by stephen silver, I hate how flat it is. To me it looks like he makes art by having a handfull of overly simplistic rules; like every curve has an opposing straight, bad guys have pointy shapes, strong guys have square shapes, feminine characters have circular shapes and he follows these rules slavishly. It results in characters that are shallow and predictable. It anoys me that he is the go to character design guy, if you ask how to design characters you will get sent to that guy.

[Anonymous No.4651736]

>>4651717
this looks wrong because the drawing is in a much wider lens than the model, in the drawing the far eye looks smaller because it is further away, in the model it looks smaller because it is smaller

[Anonymous No.4651857]

>>4651726
>anything by stephen silver,
FUCKING THIS.

FUCK HIS STYLE AND ANYTHING SIMILAR

[Anonymous No.4651885]

Anything with this wacky shape variation. It’s supposed to make the characters stand out but it looks unappealing as shit. Westerners almost never pull it off well, the only time I’ve seen it work was in JRPG boss designs

[Anonymous No.4651939]

>>4651885
I think it's the obsession concept art now has with silhouettes, it worked for tf2 and now it get's jammed into everything, it's become dogma

[Anonymous No.4651947]

Butch Hartmann's everything.

[Anonymous No.4651952]

>>4651715
take that back

[Anonymous No.4652000]

I agree with previous anons on predictable western character designs but I also hate this overdesigned jprg garbage
like what's with the pants why are they like that

[Anonymous No.4652006]

>>4652000
I think it's like a deep sea diving suit but he's only wearing part of it, it still looks like ass

[Anonymous No.4652029]

>>4652000

i like this overdesigned garbage though

[Anonymous No.4652031]

>>4652000
The guy is shit overall at designing characters. I know he did a redesign for Celica (Fire emblem 2) and it looked like generic coomer garbage

[Anonymous No.4652046]

>>4652029
Good taste

[Anonymous No.4652083]

>>4651707
I would fuck the twink

[Anonymous No.4652113]

Fantasy gacha games, especially Fate. They have great concepts to work with but they just do the same generic girl/boy in latex armour. The only character i like is Oda Nobunaga.

[Anonymous No.4652138]

>>4652113
Fate is a case of having some gold in a bunch of mediocre garbage and a lot of really shit designs. The female designs being more hit or miss since Fate went even further with the coomer otaku pandering

[Anonymous No.4652237]

>>4651939
at least the purpose in tf2 is for the players to identify the characters by their shapes. any other medium feels kind of forced.

[Anonymous No.4652328]

>>4651939
>shape design started with TF2
The absolute state of this shithole

[Anonymous No.4652362]

>>4652328
I don't think they started it, I think that tf2 popularized it in modern concept art, also shape design is broader than just recognizable sillouettes

[Anonymous No.4652369]

>>4652362
Dude the concept of shape is old as fuck, is even one of the fundamentals in art, I get you don't like certain designa because they push the limit of that but they technically work, you can recognize the intents and characters by their shapes alone, is part of the freaking Gestalt way of seeing the world the human brain has

[Anonymous No.4652379]

>>4652362
Uhhh. Are you serious?

Shape design has been a part of concepting since it started.

[Anonymous No.4652415]

>>4651717
Love it

[Anonymous No.4652441]

Grometric simplistic shit from flash cartoons.

[Anonymous No.4652451]

>>4652379
>>4652369
are you retarded, I didn't say they invented shape, read nigger

[Anonymous No.4652487]

>>4652362
>>4652369
>>4652379
Reading comprehension on this website is something else.
The very obvious point Anon is making is that tf2 had extremely exaggerated silhouettes, more than average in character design. Many artists today learned about silhouette design from tf2, and so they make extremely exaggerated shapes as well. Its not about inventing shapes or something.

[Anonymous No.4652498]

>>4652029
These look cool

[Anonymous No.4652505]

>>4652451
Never said that, I'm saying I disagree with you.

>>4652487
That exaggerated shape design was popular before TF2.

[Anonymous No.4652528]

>>4651939
>>4652328
>>4652362
>>4652369
>>4652379
>>4652487
animefags must work with only half a brain

[Anonymous No.4652547]

Can’t stand Moebius. Something about it is unsatisfying

[Anonymous No.4652722]

>>4652505
>Never said that
see >>4652328

[Anonymous No.4652729]

>>4652722
That's not me.

[Anonymous No.4652989]

>>4651707
>slim man with curly brown or orange short hair and a big nose in 3D

[Anonymous No.4653011]

this monstrosity

[Anonymous No.4653064]

Come at me.

[Anonymous No.4653077]

Basically everyone from Pokemon SwSh but ESPECIALLY them

[Anonymous No.4653080]

>>4653077
Nessa is the only human character from SwSh who even comes close to being an okay character design

[Anonymous No.4653229]

>>4651939
they just thought, make people weirder shapes, not make shapes into weirder people

thats why these are so samey

[Anonymous No.4653233]

>>4653077
SwSh has some of the worst designs in the entire franchise, everyone is ugly and overdesignred
XY was also pretty bad because everyone looked like they should have been an NPC

the last good designs really were in gen 5

[Anonymous No.4653242]

>>4651707
The tall guy is cute, would date him

[Anonymous No.4653246]

>>4651885
>almost no eye variation and limited 3dness of the face
Those are the sins

[Anonymous No.4653265]

>>4651885
i kinda like the skater girl
big noses do it for me

[Anonymous No.4653275]

>>4652547
repent

[Anonymous No.4653357]

>>4651717
Maybe this is why all of /ic/ cant do anime. You cant loomis that head and appeal is valued over correctness.

[Anonymous No.4653359]

>>4651717
You can't use a non-profile image as a reference for the profile view

[Anonymous No.4653365]

>>4652547
Are you taking the fucking piss mate

[Anonymous No.4653368]

>>4653064
No you’re right. Rick and morty is the pinacle of shitty western cartoons. It’s so unbelievably shitty i can’t even find words to express my distaste of this show. Every meme and copypasta spawned by this work of the devil makes me want to off myself by ramming a full oil truck in a daycare

[Anonymous No.4653375]

>>4653357
Really? Because pic related a 3d model of an anime and it worked out fine. There are many more like this and they work, the only time you need to warp them is when you're emulating 2d animation and angles with 3d models, like arcsys does with their games. And the only issue with these is doing the normals for the shadows takes a long time to set up, but it can be done, and done well. I think the real conclusion is that guy is a retard that doesn't know what he's doing, and on top of that he picked an awful reference photo.

[Anonymous No.4653405]

>>4651717
What a cop out.

The best part of ALL animation (anime and western styles) is the stylisation and having the ability to go off model and have some fun?

If it looks good it doesn’t need to make an anatomical sense whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.4653412]

>>4651885
t. animefag

[Anonymous No.4653417]

>>4653077
What the fuck is that mess.
Damn pokemon really went downhill

[Anonymous No.4653422]

>>4651717
If a 3d modeler can do this: >>4653375
Then it just means you or whoever made that model is ultra shit at it.

[Anonymous No.4653437]

>>4653077
>He bought shield because of Melony and now he’s mad that he gets based Avery instead of generic discord e-thot #755903241
I will agree that Pokémon has gone down the shitter with their art. I miss the days of based Sugimori drawing everything

[Anonymous No.4653450]

>>4653405
>B-but muh style.
No, anon drawing like shit isn't a style.

[Anonymous No.4653465]

>>4653450
Drawing like shit is just everything that’s not anatomically correct?

[Anonymous No.4653471]

>>4653465
No. That's not what I said at all. It's asymmetrical.

[Anonymous No.4653517]

>>4653471
So drawings that are asymmetrical are all bad? Have you ever watched any western animations ever?

Dexters lab
EEnE
Cow and Chicken
Johnny Bravo
Flintstones
Courage the cowardly dog
Grim adventures of billy and Mandy
Etc etc

All of these are very asymmetrical and have barely any complex human anatomy on show but they’re great designs.

Admit you’re wrong.

[Anonymous No.4653660]

>>4653517
Nigger learn what symmetry means first

[Anonymous No.4653791]

>>4651885
Why does modern disney/calarts shit all have the same beady little eyes?

[Anonymous No.4653850]

>>4652000
I like some over designed jrpg stuff, like pic related but only because it appeals to my specific likes. Big swords, large pants over thin legs with big ol shoes. Kingdom Hearts design quirks kinda stuck with me

Shulk from xbc1 kinda satisfies that niche for me as well but Rex still looks a bit wonky because of his weird shorts under his diving gear

[Anonymous No.4654279]

>>4653011
This show repulses me to the core, it's like sticking a fucking microscope into the heart of (((them))). The inner ugliness of their soul shines through their disgusting art and view of the world. You can't even find a single frame of it that isn't swathed in some demoralizing message.

[Anonymous No.4654288]

>>4651885
so you want all characters look identical and even act the same?

I love anime but i don't stand for that shit.

[Anonymous No.4654292]

>>4651939
Silhouettes is mostly important for animation. The most iconic cartoon character designs are recognizable by their silhouette

[Anonymous No.4654294]

>>4654288
You can have character variety without making them look like freaks of nature

[Anonymous No.4654298]

everything ever done by tetsuya nomura

[Anonymous No.4654302]

>>4653011
Whoever made that show was trying to give people brain cancer

[Anonymous No.4654309]

>>4654294
still look a tad somey with miniscule differences. don't get me wrong i love mvc art but it ain't doing it for me.

[Anonymous No.4654406]

Seriously, is there a single person who finds these appealing?

[Anonymous No.4654416]

>>4654406
yeah the people who pay about 5$ for a quick made animation/illustration

[Anonymous No.4654422]

>>4651885
wah wah another jbro who AbSoLuTeLy CaNnOt StAnD western art styles. go back to your animu blobs. just never forget you will never be accepted, no matter how many waifu pillows you own.

[Anonymous No.4654423]

>>4654406
Probably the same kind of people who liked Microsoft word clip art

[Anonymous No.4654440]

>>4651707
Literally just hue shifted. Less than zero effort.

[Anonymous No.4654449]

>>4651707
Ugliest artstyle I've ever seen. It has more realism than ur average manga/anime but still contains those huge moe eyes.

[Anonymous No.4654466]

>>4651726
>>4651857
What abunch of plebs. holy shit Stephen's style is a top tier
i bet you like weeb trash

[Anonymous No.4654479]

>>4654422
>>4654466
>>4654309
>>4654288
>>4653412
Ironically almost all of these western artstyles that you are defending are heavily influenced by anime-isms and all the original western cartoon styles are as good as dead. Oh, except for calarts garbage lol.

[Anonymous No.4654483]

>>4654294
>comparing a cartoony style to a more realistic one

[Anonymous No.4654488]

[Anonymous No.4654492]

>>4653077
That's fucking disgusting

[Anonymous No.4654498]

>>4654479
> animu girl poster proves he's a tasteless garbage person

more at 11

[Anonymous No.4654513]

>>4654292
Most of them are also animals.
>>4653077
All of those street fashion designs. They're everywhere, and they all look so similar and niggerish.

[Anonymous No.4654546]

I can't stand this shit. The actual style is really appealing, but the design is atrocious and extremely obnoxious. I'm not sure whether it's the color choice, or the flippant use of street fashion but it ends up looking like a parody rather than something genuine.

[Anonymous No.4654717]

>>4652547
please be bait

[Anonymous No.4654721]

>>4653011
this 100 percent

[Anonymous No.4654724]

>>4651885
i wanna coom inside the yellow dress lady.

[Anonymous No.4654769]

>>4652547
You're entitled to your opinion, regardless of how wrong it is.

[Anonymous No.4654779]

Chris Sanders can fuck right off. The proportions he uses are both boring and irksome, and the faces are uninspired.

[Anonymous No.4654809]

>>4654779
unironically very attracted to this drawing. ty for introducing me to sanders

[Anonymous No.4654811]

>>4653064
I refuse to watch this simply because of how ugly the characters look and how lazy the artstyle is

[Anonymous No.4654819]

>>4654809
if you've ever seen Lilo and Stitch, you've been introduced to his work.

[Anonymous No.4654829]

>>4651707
This japanese souless trash.

[Anonymous No.4654865]

>>4654546
I agree with you on this. I fucking love the style. The linework is really attractive. But yeah, the streetwear shit can fuck off

[Anonymous No.4656128]

>>4654546
I like it. Normally I hate streetwear, but this suits my aesthetics...

[Anonymous No.4656154]

>>4654829
clearly the worst art of the big 3

[Anonymous No.4656159]

>>4654546
The second one is fine, the first one is too busy and there's too much to look at.

[Anonymous No.4656184]

>>4654779
How you fucking dare to talk shit about Chris art, you smelly pleb, you dirty cock gobbling faggot

[Anonymous No.4656218]

>>4654546
I like the first one, but when it comes to the second, the streetwear and all the messyness... youcan also tell a girl did this

[Anonymous No.4656220]

>>4654779
this nigga literally god tier i LIVE BY HIS WAVE and YES lilo and stich is my favorite Disney flick PERIOD

[Anonymous No.4656260]

>>4653412
>>4654288
>>4654422
Naw you all just have shit taste. I haven’t watched a lot of anime, most of my influence comes from 20th century Europeans

[Anonymous No.4656269]

>>4653011
I wonder if they purposely made it ridiculously unattractive to draw interest.

[Anonymous No.4656431]

>>4656184
>>4656220
bitch please, her eyes have different postal codes, and her tits are filled with helium. 0% appeal.

[Anonymous No.4656770]

>>4654483
what an utterly meaningless thing to say

[Anonymous No.4656786]

>>4656431
Okay zoomer, back to your mangas

[Anonymous No.4656942]

>>4654498
>fag insults superior animuristocrat
know your place nigger

[Anonymous No.4657003]

>>4653064
The comic has some of the worst art ive ever seen. any /beg/ tier retard can do much better

[Anonymous No.4657009]

>>4652000
I could see if it was only one character dressed like this then it would be bad. But since everyone in this universe is dressed similar it just comes across as this universe's fasion sense, not really a flaw of the design. As for the designs themselves, the color and design of the clothes look appealing and it's clear how they would take on and off these clothes. I feel most people just see "big tits" or "shota shorts" and just right it off as bad. I really like these designs

[Anonymous No.4657076]

>>4653077
why is this bad design I love their designs

[Anonymous No.4657111]

>>4652029
>>4652000

Dark Chronicle is cohesive, it's not over-designed. The boy looks like a commoner who's a mechanic, the girl looks like a noble born warrior.

Xenoweeb .. just try to find any defining trait of any character by their design. Uhhhhh UUUuuuuhrrrrrr...

[Anonymous No.4657158]

>>4656260
I fucking love Jucika, that simple style is so great

[Anonymous No.4657355]

>>4654779
you know it's good when a very cartoonish style can still make you recognize the attractiveness of the female body. eyes a bit on the ayy side but I like it overall

[Anonymous No.4657376]

>>4651885
they're just bland and unoriginal, it's very much filling a quota with the diversity meme and design anything on top of it. The only ones that stand out are the black chick in yellow, the skater girl, and the annoying Tumblr girl with the glasses. Very unappealing and random, but maybe it was just some character design practice, otherwise none of these characters look like they belong in the same world other than the style of the artist.

[Anonymous No.4657378]

>>4656431
wOoAh broooooo loook at her haaair dog its just levitating its completley unexplainble! also how is she keeping balance in that pose??!?!??..

[Anonymous No.4657387]

>>4652547
heretic

[Anonymous No.4657457]

>>4653011
yes that one just sucks

[Anonymous No.4657459]

>>4652547
fuck you

[Anonymous No.4657575]

[Anonymous No.4657743]

>>4656431
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4657759]

>>4652547
Same m8. I can see and appreciate that he's incredibly skilled or whatever but the style just doesn't resonate with me one bit.
Same with the Hellboy artist. /ic/ loves both of them but I just don't find either artists' style appealing in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.4657803]

>>4654779
>boring
The shapes and lines are very interesting, exaggerated but based on a solid anatomy, calling it boring makes me think you are a retard.

[Anonymous No.4657806]

>>4651885
It's generic tumblr/disney shit, also shapes that disney would only use on men is used on women because the artist is a feminist faggot for certain.

[Anonymous No.4657820]

>>4656260
Is that coloring purposely offset?

[Anonymous No.4657829]

>>4657820
no it's natural due to deterioration and cheap ink. The jucika comics are from the 70s, if I recall, and printed on cheap newspaper

[Anonymous No.4657936]

>>4654406
Facebook team

[Anonymous No.4657979]

>>4654292
I don't get the silhouettes meme. You only recognize them because you already saw them before. Are there any popular characters who also have unrecognizable silhouettes apart from the idol anime?

[Anonymous No.4657989]

>>4651885
>Westerners almost never pull it off well, the only time I’ve seen it work was in JRPG boss designs
Good work invalidating your entire argument Kyle

[Anonymous No.4657997]

>>4652528
They're too used to styles with the silhouette diversity of a box of nails

[Anonymous No.4658129]

>>4656786
don't even get me started on some of the garbage I've seen in manga.
>>4657743
that's not the purpose of this thread. We were to post character design we can't stand. I can't stand Chris sanders. his shit does not appeal to me. If I want to look at some attractive cheesecake I'll go look at Frazetta. his shit is hot and believable.

[Anonymous No.4658263]

>>4654440
>animefags will defend this

[Anonymous No.4658349]

I get angry just looking at it

[Anonymous No.4658549]

>>4658349
i dont understand how i was able to watch his videos regularily, hes so full of himself and his art is basic trash, especially his drawing of himself

[Anonymous No.4658603]

>>4658263
Yes, and it still looks better than all the non anime shite in this thread combined.

[Anonymous No.4658651]

>>4658549
Yeah,even if his stuff wasn't up there i used to like him before he became the pussy sheep he is now.

[Anonymous No.4658682]

>>4658129
While I really like Chris Saunders, Frazetta and Alex Ross are better artists.

I'm not a fan of the South Park style, especially when they depict real people/celebrity guests.

[Anonymous No.4658689]

>>4653064
Too many of the characters in this show share the same features.

Whats everyone's thoughts on the smiling friends designs? They feel more varied/creative

[Anonymous No.4658861]

>>4658689
I'm a long time NG fag so I'm biased as fuck. But these designs have a lot more soul than all the absolute steaming toxic cesspool that is LOL ADULT ANIMATION CARTOON SAY FUCK WEED CUM MAN XDD D

[Anonymous No.4658870]

>>4658603
not the point dipshit
Pic related looks better than 99.9% of all the shit ITT but it doesn't mean that it has more value.
Literally as you go down in effort and complexity it instantly becomes more appealing because the viewer fills in the blanks on their own and projects their feelings onto the drawing. But this doesn't mean it has inherently more artistic value than the other shit ITT

[Anonymous No.4658884]

>>4652547

[Anonymous No.4658926]

>>4654449
I love it, personally. I understand why people don't like it, but to me it is a great balance between caricature and realism, and it works perfectly with the bleak and grotesque tone of the manga.

[Anonymous No.4658975]

>>4658870
lmao you're fuckin delusional faggot, there's more to art and appeal than le mind fill in negative space. These simple anime girls drawn quickly on a budget are more appealing than any of the western shit itt-- die mad about it.

[Anonymous No.4659492]

>>4654416
You clearly don't know how the editorial and marketing illustration industry works lmao

[Anonymous No.4659512]

>>4658975
Modern anime is just as bad and bland as calarts

[Anonymous No.4659531]

>>4658689
i want this fucking show to be greenlit already

[Anonymous No.4659546]

>>4651726
I mean I don't like the style either but your assessment is way off

>feminine characters have circular shapes

the two females I see in the pic are pointy and boxy

[Anonymous No.4659604]

I have to admit it before I knew what anime was in the 90s, I liked drawing based on subjects. I liked something because the idea of it was cool and I wanted to draw it. I didn't really think of "style" or the way to draw something. Then when I got into anime, it was attractive more because of how it was rendered and less on what the subject matter was, though that still played a part in it.

[Anonymous No.4659759]

>>4659512
Bland? Maybe. But bad? lol nah you're fuckin delusional and nothing will ever be as unappealing as calart shite.

[Anonymous No.4659778]

>>4653064
I respect your opinion though I actually like this art style when it comes to the cartoon. But, if you mean the comic then fuck yeah, it has some of the shittiest art I've seen in a published book. They over complicate things like showing the characters gums every time they open their mouth.

[Anonymous No.4659955]

>>4658689
I liked it when I saw it. I'm a fan of Zach and all but his art style is very simple and limited. Like how long can you look at characters with their noses connecting to their foreheads AKA Snoopie styled. Imma take a wild guess that the main 4 characters are the only bright colored people in that world while everyone else is human.

I dunno, it's leagues better than the humor R&M shits out. There's actual talent going into the jokes. I have to see more episodes to make a better judgement of this show.

[Anonymous No.4660095]

>>4654292
>>4657979
>>4651939
I don't think it's the obsession with silhouettes, it's the bad way of using them. Most of the time artists just lack any kind of subtlety.
Look at this page from Dana Gibson. The professor has those spiky hair jutting out, which can be seen from any rotation of his head.
That's good character design.
It's basically Mickey Mouse's ears, just applied to a more realistic character.

>>4653229
Very interesting idea.
Shape>character or character>shape are very different ways of thinking about character design, I'll definitely experiment with that. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4660106]

>>4658349
i cannot stand the dead corpse colors he uses for skin. the shadows are all shades of black. if he used red tinged shadows and brought some warmth to it it would improve a lot. although that wont fix the bad drawings

[Anonymous No.4660107]

>>4654279
I suppose this post is anti-semitic but there does seem to be a real ugliness at the heart of Big Mouth and a lot of other "adult" cartoons. Nothing is beautiful or clean. Everything is dirty and corrupt. Beauty requires sincerity, and these people are so cynical and snide that they cannot conceive of anything that's beautiful.

[Anonymous No.4660131]

>>4657759
Thats weird.

[Anonymous No.4660133]

>>4660107
>Beauty requires sincerity, and these people are so cynical and snide that they cannot conceive of anything that's beautiful.
You hit the nail on the head. Adult animation is so afraid of looking like something considered mockable by normies, like a Disney film or anime, they go in the complete opposite direction and make everything as visually unappealing and soulless as possible.
It takes passion to come up with a visual style you personally consider appealing, but making something beautiful means you'll be vulnerable to anyone who derides it. So it's easier to just make something that looks like shit intentionally, rather than putting your heart into something that looks good.

[Anonymous No.4660138]

I'm going to fucking vomit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIbubBTHIok

[Anonymous No.4660177]

>>4654488
This guy is so strange. Clearly has a public nudity fetish but refuses to draw anything that naked people have. It's like the fur magically covers up anything... untoward.