/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[/asg/ - Anime Study General No.4649890]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0
https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0 [Open]

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

Previous Thread: >>4644232

[Anonymous No.4649902]

>>4649886

[Anonymous No.4649909]

Will I be able to draw my in-game waifu, anon?

[Anonymous No.4649927]

>>4649902
>literally me
Stop making fun of me! Wah!
I just want to draw [big anime tid]!!

[Anonymous No.4649930]

How exactly are anime backgrounds made now? There seems to be a change but I can't quite describe it, and there's this texture on a lot of smoother objects I have no idea how to replicate

[Anonymous No.4649981]

How come we don't use people's work from the threads as OP? Wouldn't it be fun?

[Anonymous No.4650001]

>>4649981
yeah!!
It'd be amazing!
I nominate this idea for next thread. Great way to help me jerk myself off over how much better I am than them: showcasing everyone else's failures.

[Anonymous No.4650018]

>>4649890
Who drew that pic?

[Anonymous No.4650025]

>>4650018

[Anonymous No.4650059]

L word

[Black Lives Matter and so do B(...) No.4650114]

>>4650018
Here you go amigo
https://twitter.com/liteu/status/999923834709987332
I wish google images would give back results from twitter and such instead of just every Pinterest link.

[Black Lives Matter and so do B(...) No.4650117]

>>4649902
I pray that I can someday get good enough to draw people well without needing construction first, I do wish there was more advice out there for how to transition into being able to do that.

[Anonymous No.4650134]

>>4649902
why you gotta call me out like that

[Anonymous No.4650395]

>>4650001
Why are you like this?

[Anonymous No.4650464]

>>4650395
Thats sketchtranny for you

[Anonymous No.4650473]

>>4650117
draw something with reference and construction, then hide it and draw it again without, then compare

If your practice doesn't make your non-referenced non-constructed art better, then you're probably not breaking things down to understand them, but just copying.

[Anonymous No.4650474]

>>4650117
Why the fuck are you namefagging? Nobody cares about your politics virtue signaling here.

[Anonymous No.4650637]

Is this neck fucked? I think what type of pose I was going for is probably conveyed but I feel like it looks awkward as hell still. Also not sure what kind of hand gesture would look better but I know whatever I have looks like trash.

[Anonymous No.4650660]

>>4650637
Getting Takeuchi vibes. Are you a fan?

[Black Lives Matter and so do B(...) No.4652163]

>>4650473
That makes sense, I guess it's kind of just a more complicated version of knowing where to place things on the face without drawing guidelines in a way. Thank you.

>>4650474
How is it virtue signaling if no one even knows you are ???? lmao

>>4650637
Sorry for redlining in paint, It looks fine to me. The hands also look okay if a bit roughly is done but it doesn't like you were aiming for a super polished look on the hands anyways. The pose really doesn't feel awkward to me.

[Black Lives Matter and so do B(...) No.4652164]

>>4652163
Didn't add the pic, me culpa =p

[Anonymous No.4652168]

do i grind proko to make proper bodies

[Anonymous No.4652178]

>>4652163
>How is it virtue signaling if no one even knows you are ???? lmao
sigh...

[Anonymous No.4652183]

>>4652168
Yes grind proko and loomis or you’ll end up as that autistic spreg.

[Anonymous No.4652307]

>>4650637
The body is off and flat but i think the reason the pose looks wrong to you is that the head is moving but the body isn't following with a slight twistof its own

[Anonymous No.4652375]

>>4649890
How many Loomis potato heads do I have to grind before my art starts to look remotely good.

[Anonymous No.4652383]

>>4650117
Draw the same thing a bunch of times until you commit it to muscle memory, that's all it is

[Anonymous No.4652386]

>>4652168
Hampton

[Anonymous No.4652420]

We'll have to keep drawing.

[Anonymous No.4652784]

is this the real /asg/? here are some more FLCL studies I did this evening

[Anonymous No.4652788]

So when you decide what artists to copy does it matter their technical skill or do you just pick whoever you like?

[Anonymous No.4652790]

>>4652784
Probably best to use the other one
This one came out retarded

[Anonymous No.4652811]

>>4652788
>does it matter their technical skill

Yes, absolutely. The perfect balance on who to copy is someone with technical skill, appeal, and being someone you personally like.

Practice doesn't make perfect, practice makes permanent, so you better choose someone who's very solid as an artist. Or else you will absorb the same kinds of mistakes they make.

[Anonymous No.4652813]

>>4652811
Good thing I can only like artists that are technically very strong.

[Anonymous No.4652818]

>>4652811
woah, i'm a begfag but i like this a lot, who do you draw inspo from

[Anonymous No.4652829]

>>4652811
>so you better choose someone who's very solid as an artist. Or else you will absorb the same kinds of mistakes they make.
What if there are multiple artists I would like to take from. Will that fuck me up?

[Anonymous No.4652840]

>>4650114
>https://twitter.com/liteu/status/999923834709987332
Thanks

[Anonymous No.4652846]

>>4652811
While we're at it, what are some ways to in order to learn/study or gain an understanding of someone else's style?

[Anonymous No.4652897]

>>4652818
https://twitter.com/hanabushi_
https://twitter.com/kaiikarashi
https://twitter.com/OhishiMasaru
https://twitter.com/55301puri
https://twitter.com/jusjusojus
https://twitter.com/makkutokyo
https://sotymr01.tumblr.com/
Yoshinari

>>4652829
Nope, experimentation very good. It's going to take a long time for you to find your artistic voice. All artists are inspired by other art. Though, I would recommend you to segment periods for each artists to really commit the way they draw to muscle memory and gain a better understanding on the nuances of how they draw.

>>4652846
Draw their drawing, draw their drawing again, draw their drawing while not looking at the ref, take time to just look at the specific drawing and break it down with your eyes, take time to look at a bunch of their drawings to see their art progression or general trends, draw a mannequin of their drawing, draw a mannequin over their drawing, draw anatomy over their drawing, draw their drawing from a completely different angles (better to use multiple refs if you can), draw your own drawing of the same character while using their's as a ref (use multiple refs), draw something new while using their drawings as refs, draw something from imagination while keeping what you learned from studying their art in mind. A trick you can use is always keeping a folder of their art as a ref you can pull up whenever you're have difficulty drawing their work or your own work

Of course, learn your fundies and just draw from imagination. This is meant to supplement your fundies studying. Between fundies, anime studying, drawing from imagination, just feel your way into what kind of routine gives you the most gains. Anime studying will be more beneficial the more you understand fundies and theory simply because you have more tools on how to examine art and deconstruct things. Really, all this advice would benefit you much more the more intermediate of an artists are. Learning to see is absolutely most important.

[Anonymous No.4653160]

>>4652897
Do you have a blog? I can't read that signature

[Anonymous No.4653171]

>>4653160
it's krenz cushart

[Anonymous No.4654170]

>>4650637
another GMI anon...
How long did it take you to achieve this level?

[Anonymous No.4654350]

>>4650660
Not specifically, I just like drawing cute girls.
>>4652163
Thanks for the feedback, I struggle with hands still so I put off working on them ahah.
>>4652307
Hmmm yeah I see what you mean now. Maybe I could push the pose a bit further to make it a little more flowing..
>>4654170
Thanks anon. I've been drawing since I was a kid honestly, but it was a lot of badly traced inuyasha and shojo shit most of the time. I didn't draw for almost all of high school too so I feel like I wasted a lot of time that I could have spent drawing. Trying to get back into the groove and push myself because I've been drawing the same boring stuff for the past few years.

[Anonymous No.4654594]

>>4652784
Nice lines.

[Anonymous No.4654744]

[Anonymous No.4654748]

draw bitch

[Anonymous No.4654824]

>>4654748
did you say ko-ma-tay?

[Anonymous No.4654850]

>>4654744
I appreciate the large breasts but the anatomy needs work especially around the right boob placement

[Anonymous No.4654862]

[Anonymous No.4654928]

>>4650637
aaaaa cute cute cute

[Anonymous No.4654930]

now was it western or eastern

[Anonymous No.4654953]

>>4654930
Cute!

[Anonymous No.4654963]

>>4654930
If you add more shadows it would put much more life on it

[Anonymous No.4654970]

>>4654930
Very cute! If you add more shadows it would put much more life on it

[Anonymous No.4654983]

redraw

[Anonymous No.4655032]

>>4654953
>>4654970
It's not mine though

[Anonymous No.4655082]

>>4655032
That's too bad. I assumed it was yours

[Anonymous No.4655091]

Still working on drawing daily

[Anonymous No.4655094]

>>4655082
You assumed it was his?

[Anonymous No.4655101]

>>4655091
not anime but a blend of comic and something else i like. This is something you would see in dnd artwork books or actual work outside of internet

how you learn to draw this. would like to learn/copy your studys

[Anonymous No.4655112]

>>4655101

Video of the original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrIsAiUpEXk

I still suck but, if it helps, you can check my blog: https://ralrom.tumblr.com.. I'm a bit all over the place with my studies and I've had burn out a while back, I only started getting back into drawing recently.

[Anonymous No.4655156]

>>4655112
how you learn to draw face like that mind my asking. video looks animeish but your art looks comicish.Whats the breakdown for the face and eyes

[Anonymous No.4655212]

>>4655156

- Copied comic books that I thought looked cool & matched the style I want to draw
- Loomis studies a long time ago & several face studies on https://line-of-action.com/
- A few live figure drawing sessions (maybe around 10 so far, will do more once stuff re-opens)
- More recently, some anime drawing copies

Pic related is the proportions I use, I adjust a little bit if I'm not happy with something. But this is nothing new, there are tons of videos out there that can explain the proportions better

[Anonymous No.4655293]

>>4654983
What is the timespan?

[Anonymous No.4655313]

Am i pro already or beg?

[Anonymous No.4655336]

>>4655313
high beg not yet intermediate

[Anonymous No.4655338]

>>4655094
Yes

[Anonymous No.4655339]

>>4655313
Beginner, but not begtard. You may post on alt.

[Anonymous No.4655362]

>>4655336
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4655370]

>>4655336
>>4655339
I think that i'm gmi after a year or so.

[Anonymous No.4655373]

>>4655339
>You may post on alt.
Please don’t shit in my home

[Anonymous No.4655977]

>>4655293
Don't remember, probly ~1.5 years

[Anonymous No.4655990]

>>4654983
Where the fuck are those legs going exactly?

[Anonymous No.4656004]

>>4654983
That's amazing honestly

[Anonymous No.4656040]

>>4655990
is not that hard to figure out ;)
>>4656004
thanks

[Anonymous No.4656211]

>>4656040
You gotta get the hip curve right
In your pic her left leg is jutting upwards to no bodily connection.
Like she had a doll leg that popped out

[Anonymous No.4656274]

>>4652375
Loomis focusses on constructing realistic heads, learn how to deform those realistic features by seeing how artists you like deformed them. Human face always has the same construction, information about it is everywhere, loomis isn't the be all and end all for that type of instruction.

[Anonymous No.4656294]

i like the style i had for one quick drawing

[Anonymous No.4656322]

>>4656211
>hip curve
disagree, looked kinda disconnected bc the thighs were a little too thin and were too far apart

[Anonymous No.4656422]

>>4656322
That little girl has the body of a wrestler

[Anonymous No.4656505]

>>4656322
>>4656422
>POW! Dubs
>DOUBLE POW! Double dubs!
Are you fecking joking right now?!

[Anonymous No.4656555]

>>4652897
krenz cushart???

[Anonymous No.4657176]

Does anybody have the invite link to /asg/ discord server? I think the old one expired?

[Anonymous No.4657267]

>>4657176
its full of troons that dont draw anyway

[Anonymous No.4657442]

>>4652784
I did a few more studies from FLCL this evening. just a bunch of misc. faces mostly.
>>4654594
thanks! I said this to another anon, but I think a part of it is that the drawings are shrunk once I put them on the computer which makes the lines look slightly nicer than they actually are

[Anonymous No.4657640]

>>4656040
Ahh that reference is bringing me back to the times when we were drawing from it, jeez it feels good to see how much you improved since then

[Anonymous No.4657660]

>>4657442
>a part of it is that the drawings are shrunk once I put them on the computer which makes the lines look slightly nicer than they actually are
Every digital artist uses this trick there's no problem with it.

You do have nice lines though, most of these are laid down with a purpose and aren't just chicken scratched to hell. That's good draftsmanship. If you want to take it further then draw mega clean. Or you can do some practice in pen, where you're not allowed to erase and all marks are permanent.

[Anonymous No.4657671]

We must draw

[Anonymous No.4657675]

>>4657671
yes

[Anonymous No.4657677]

>>4656294
Very cool, anon

[Anonymous No.4657726]

>>4652784
can you actually explain what your studies are focused on instead of just saying "here's a study" all the time

[Anonymous No.4657754]

can someone tell me if its fine.
every time i draw hair i feel like it takes something away and doesn't look good anymore

[Anonymous No.4657757]

>>4657754
here is without hair. anybody who draws hair better then me can do me a favor and redline it showing me

[Anonymous No.4658376]

>>4655091
>>4655112
>>4655212
Much appreciated
Bookmarked your blog

[Anonymous No.4658418]

I can trace anime really well but when I try to draw freehand it turns to shit. Any solution to this?

[Anonymous No.4658422]

>>4658418
pyw

[Anonymous No.4658444]

>>4658418
I think just about anyone can "trace really well" considering you're just drawing over lines someone's already made. There's no thinking involved. It turns to shit when you draw freehand because you're not used to drawing freehand. The only solution is to keep drawing freehand until you get better. It'll look like shit until then.

If someone was like "I do fine when I do squats, but my biceps are really weak, any tips?" the solution would obviously be to work out your arms, right? Your biceps will stay weak until you use them

[Anonymous No.4658445]

>>4656040
Now I'm a bit disappointed that you had to use reference.

[Anonymous No.4658456]

redrew an old sketch, years long drawing pause is very bad. hope i can draw old men again

[Anonymous No.4658485]

>>4658418
i'm garbage but i've never traced, stop tracing. just copy until youre comfortable then go onto studies

[Anonymous No.4658576]

>>4658456
Post the last one
>hope i can draw old men again
Just addmore lines to age him

[Anonymous No.4658862]

Idk if my phone rotates the image
This is from chapter 5 of my girlfriend is not that cute
Any opinions?

[Anonymous No.4658863]

>>4658862
original

[Anonymous No.4659188]

Hello fellow anime students!

I came asking for help! Little introduction first: I've just returned from a almost 2 year hiatus and decided to take things diferently. And it seems it's working really well!
Im taking my time to really be sure of what im doing on each step, but it seems that the next one isnt that clear to me now. Pic related is where im stuck atm.

I've decided to color it flat with de saturated colors, wich seems to be how most manga/anime artists do. How should i proceed from now? I tried to lay down the shadows
but it didn't work, and iv'e noticed that most artists kinda dont make rough shadows, everything looks kinda even iluminated and the highlights are where the contrast lies.

Anyway, if you guys have a tutorial on that, or maybe recommend artists that make this kinda environment, with a bunch of stuff. I want to make a super rendered background. Thanks a lot for any help you can give :D.

PS. Process steps from artists are super nice to study from, if you have anything that you think can help, please sugest! Thank you!

[Anonymous No.4659201]

[Anonymous No.4659282]

>>4659188
What manga have you been trying to mimic?

[Anonymous No.4659321]

Any thing grossly wrong here?

[Anonymous No.4659341]

>>4656294
I would be in awe of myself if I could draw like this. This is really great. The hair is textured brilliantly, the perspective is there, the suit looks cool and the proportions are on point. Is this an existing character, or did you draw this from imagination?

[Anonymous No.4659417]

>>4659321
eyes come in many styles broseph not that big a deal, focus on heads

[Blacks live matter and so do b(...) No.4659538]

>>4652178
But I’m not demonstrating “my” good moral character or correctness, this is completely anonymous. Do you think anytime shows support for a cause where others can see it isnvirtue signaling?? I know there’s no way to prove it but I genuinely just actually care about this and want it to be visible and don’t get any boost to my ego by doing this.

>>4652183
Sarah Simblets book of anatomy photos is really good reference if your oracting the human form. Don’t try to copy just proko or Loomis way if doing things, really try drawing a lot of different people and see what ways end looking good to you or not. The method will be mostly the same but some of the details will vary. Even in Loomis books there is leeway with what the exact promotions should be on people’s bodies and faces. >>4654350
Inyuyasha is great, I’m sure you can get back into a better flow of daring things soon. You’re doing great.
>>4659321
This looks good, are you looking at soul eater or something? Can you draw eyes consistently in different expression ?
>>4658456

[Blacks live matter and so do b(...) No.4659542]

>>4658456
>>4658456
I love this do you have more?

[Anonymous No.4659730]

>>4652897
give me more krenz drawing like pic related

[Anonymous No.4659741]

How can I draw anime when loomis lingers in the back of my mind

[Anonymous No.4659751]

DOREMIMAN THE BASTARD, EXPLAIN THIS BUUUUUUUUUUULLSHIT TO ME

[Anonymous No.4659779]

>>4659751
You know, 99.9% of chinks who draw in this style don't do this type of complex construction when they draw. They just wing it and that's where the fundies kick in, they're able to give the simplistic characters a very real type of volume and weight just because they are that good.
Point is, just draw. And i say that in the most non-ironic way possible

[Anonymous No.4659786]

>>4659741
just do a loomis head and make the eyes rly big

[Anonymous No.4659908]

>>4659779
I'll keep holding on

[Anonymous No.4660000]

>>4659997

[Anonymous No.4660333]

>>4659188
That looks really good

[Anonymous No.4660438]

>>4659341
thank you, its both existing and imagination, tried remaking an unfinished and very old original character drawing quickly

[Anonymous No.4660726]

>>4659538
Holy shit go back to rebbit you absolute spastic. Nobody gives a fuck about your obsession with black cocks and trannies just post good art

>>4652811
God I love that, also nice taste.

[Anonymous No.4661414]

>>4656040
Tried it out for my self

[Anonymous No.4661433]

>>4661414
Nice dwarf style

[Anonymous No.4661514]

>>4661414
very soul

[Anonymous No.4661617]

i'm on my way to improving. sadge

[Anonymous No.4661758]

>>4659542
just droped in to say you are a nigger :)

[Anonymous No.4661760]

[Anonymous No.4661809]

>>4661760
>memecrunch
yikes
underage or a filthy spic?

[Anonymous No.4661835]

>>4661809
that explains the edgy teenage anger here

[Anonymous No.4661845]

>>4661809
It smell like bitch in here

[Anonymous No.4661909]

[Anonymous No.4661913]

[Anonymous No.4661919]

IT SMELL LIKE BITCH IN HERE, NIGGA. ALL Y'ALL SMELL LIKE BITCH TO ME.

[Anonymous No.4661923]

looks like the new bitch don't kill my vibe meltdown

[Anonymous No.4661937]

>>4661923
>bitch don't kill my vibe meltdown
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.4661948]

>>4661937
Black lives don't matter i think

[Anonymous No.4661964]

>>4659779
t. beg

[Anonymous No.4661967]

>>4656040
is very hard

[Anonymous No.4661969]

>>4661937
Someone keeps spamming "bitch dont kill my vibe" in the previous thread as if he had a meltdown

[Anonymous No.4662030]

>>4661964
Explain

[Anonymous No.4662041]

>>4659188
Weren't you in that KunoMD stream?

[Anonymous No.4662171]

>>4661967
Hey, you did it and posted it. More guts than me.

[Anonymous No.4662462]

>>4656040

[Anonymous No.4663003]

>>4662041
Yeah! Im shooting to all the ways, trying to ask for help instead of hitting my head on the table.

[Anonymous No.4663132]

>>4659188
Based kill la kill poster

[Anonymous No.4663981]

>>4661967
gets easier with time
>>4657640
those were the days

[Anonymous No.4663989]

>>4663981