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Is this accurate?

>> No.4645231

Bump for interest

>> No.4645283

This is a waste of time

>> No.4645316

Lots of books repeat themselves
I even bought Ink and Color and Light because the pdfs weren't available at the time. Not bad books but what a waste of money

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You need to Put Charles Bargue's drawing course at the very beginning. Your ability to accurately see 2 dimensional relationships is going to bottleneck you from drawing in perspective, for the simple reason that your proportions of those boxes and the relative angles of converging parallel lines will all be fucked up. The more clearly you can see those, the easier perspective will be.

>> No.4645355

>>4644942
I mean... probably?
Unfortunatly I don't have enough discipline to read books, so I'll just continue to draw anime ladies.

>> No.4645381

>>4645355
> I don't have enough discipline to read books

ngmi brainlet

>> No.4645387

>>4645344
This. Accuracy is so important to construction.

>> No.4645388

>>4644942
I thought the guide with keys to drawing and Huston was better?
I think those two and dynamic sketching are the way to get started

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>>4645388

>> No.4645499

If I had to pick a single book to teach me how to draw people. What would it be?

>> No.4645520

>>4645499
It would be no book. It would be drawing from life.

>> No.4645863

>>4645520
Of course I know that drawing from a model is better. But it's quarentine, and would that really make me a better artist if I were to blindly just draw with no knowledge?

>> No.4646684

>>4645499
Huston

>> No.4646707

>>4645499
Go for 2 books. Vilppu Drawing Manual + Morpho Anatomy (or any good anatomy book really)

>> No.4646732

>tfw filtered by how to draw
>multiple times

>> No.4646741

>>4645420
this
OP utterly lacks observational stuff. Also famed ink is a weird choice so early - literally before any figure drawing

>> No.4646867

Anyone have a link to "The skillful Huntsman"?

>> No.4647469

>>4644942
>do all exercises
those books only have instructions, no exercises

>> No.4650437

this is great if you want to lose all your passion for art and see drawing as a chore, as an added bonus you will probably only be able to draw by copying refs

>> No.4650441

>>4647469
Make your own exercises

>> No.4650642

>>4650437
Then what should I do?

>> No.4650654

>>4650642
don't listen to crabs, for one

Nobody (except crabs) is saying that everyone who wants to draw has to be good at it, or that every artist needs to be constantly driving to improve.

It's just important that practice doesn't make perfect. 1000 hours of symbol drawing with poor fundamentals is only going to make you an expert at just that; symbol drawing with poor fundamentals.

>>4650437
>you will probably only be able to draw by copying refs

Would you go to an engineer and tell him not to use blueprints? Or a web dev and tell them not to use open source tools and libraries?

>> No.4650673

>>4644942
>Robertson
>Loomis
This has to be bait. It's like all the /beg/ traps were included in 1 image. How to Draw is for concept artists who need to their designs to be translated by 3D artists. It's a good book, but the goal here is illustration judging by the all the figure drawing books.

>> No.4650674

>>4645344
What is this like a book or something

>> No.4650679

>>4650674
"Charles bargue drawing course book". Is that hard to google to find out?

>> No.4650681

>>4645420
>>4644942
Don't know why Robertson is being recommended so early. It's too advance for a beginner.

>> No.4650835

>>4650681
I actually used it when I was a beginner and it went fine. I've also used it to help friends that were stuck on stuff in perspective class. Is it really that complicated a read for you guys?

>> No.4650850

>>4650835
Clap clap good for you

>> No.4650866

>>4650850
Ok but is it really that complicated for you guys? Are you babying /beg/s because you think they can't handle it, just because you couldn't? Or are you just trying to keep them from improving? Really I'd like to know the reason but you've chosen to be a bitch and avoid answering questions.

>> No.4653664

>>4645420
I can vouch for Scott Eaton's anatomy. He knows some basic artistic anatomy plus some. His class can overwhelm a total beginner though. Rey Bustos is good for beginner artistic anatomy, Scott expands on it.

>> No.4653773

>>4650866
I just clapped at you bro. Why are you offended

>> No.4653871

>>4653664
>Rey Bustos is good for beginner artistic anatomy
You talking about a specific book?

>> No.4653875

>>4650866
It's complicated for retards. A lot of artists like to proclaim how stupid they are, or wahhh shapes/math hard. It was my first perspective book too and went completely fine.

>>4653871
It's a video course. I'm not a huge fan of it, I think Eaton's is much better although admittedly it's not a drawing course. I find Eaton's instruction much more practical because of his examples, wall of shame, and reviews/homeworks.

>> No.4654104

>>4653875
Any input on Anatomy for Artists vs Anatomy for Digital Artists?

>> No.4655232

>>4653871
He's a teacher for the ecorche videos on NMA. I did an ecorche to understand where the muscles went, then went to Scott afterwards for more explanation. I like Rey because I've had a hard time understanding muscles and I thought it was boring, but Rey kept me interested in anatomy to pursue more of the subject.

>> No.4655263

>>4653875
Well of course Eaton is better, he's also the more expensive option if you choose the full enrollment route around $800+. Professionals in the industry and digital sculptors take his full enrollment course so he can review their personal content.

If you're only talking about his videos that are torrented somewhere then yes, it's great learning material. I never really got the torrent tho, so I am taking his class to get personal feedback and intensive study schedule (I'm lazy).

>> No.4655273

>>4653871
He's probably talking about the video lessos but I know Bustos does have an anatomy book with Design Studio Press. Supposedly the release is on May 30 but I haven't seen it yet so it was probably delayed.

>> No.4655274

>>4655232
Also the feeling of completing an ecorche is great. Took me like, 2 or 3 months to finish on and off since I had work and used the wrong clay for the skeleton. But it's only 11 or 12 videos, and I'm making another one because my first one- after watching some Eaton and rewatching Rey- had some noticeable flaws.