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4611968 No.4611968 [Reply] [Original]

ngmi? define ngmi? why even bother? what's so wrong with not being able to make it? if you're so confident that perfecting and mastering those so-called fundamentals would allow you to get into this closed haven of those who made it then surely everyone would've done it a long time ago. what's so wrong with drawing flawed art? as long as you're happy with it, right?

>> No.4611985

>>4611968
what a loser mentality, at least you're happy being mediocre, i can't and i'm glad for it

>> No.4612001

I'm unhappy with my art but too lazy to work harder.
The result is suffering.

>> No.4612011

>>4611968
there's a good place for people like you, it's called communism, you don't have to be better there or compete with anyone, cuz you'll get the same no matter how good or bad you are.

>> No.4612032

If your having fun while drawing then who cares what people think. It isn't for them it's for you.

>> No.4612054

NGMI

>> No.4612066
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4612066

If it were so easy to achieve, everyone would be there, but it isn't so they aren't.
It's your prerogative to not improve, whatever, but I want to get better, if only for myself.

>> No.4612069

>>4612066
It's easy if you have talent. If you don't have talent you're never going to make it.

"Hard work" is a meme.

>> No.4612075

>>4612069
Talent is a meme, don't poison people's minds like that you pleb

>> No.4612122
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>> No.4612232

>>4612069
Silence, crab

>> No.4612236

>>4612122
Kek

>> No.4612417

>>4611968
You are right. As long as you're happy, there is nothing wrong with flawed art but sometimes happiness you think you feel is something else, it's more akin to fear, fear to become better, to see the truth, to question yourself or to post your art online and receive critics.

>> No.4612424

>>4611968
The correct path is to have this mindset while trying to improve

>> No.4612428

>>4612069
Nice cope

>> No.4612463

>>4611968
>define ngmi
You.

>> No.4612497

>>4612011
OP here, I'm a communist

>> No.4612514

>>4612122
How much should you be doing? I'm doing an hour + most days, depending on how much free time I have, but I feel like it's not nearly enough.

>> No.4612519

>>4611968

If what you make is crap and you're happy with it... that's okay. That's majority of out-of-proportion shit online coming from 17yo edgy shitheads who call them selves artists. They draw/paint an absolutely horrible looking face or wtv, and are happy with it because they don't see or refuse to see how bad it is, and they enjoyed the process. They'll even have other "artists" go and mass-like their shit and reinforce them

Is this ok? for sure. Can we call it art? ... If we define art as the creation of something (no matter how bad) out of nothing, then I guess it qualifies, and our person can sit back and think they've made it
However, these people will never actually make their drawings look the way they think they're looking and the reason for this is how fucking happy they are with the shit they put on the paper/canvas/wtv they work with

I don't think it's possible to actually make it, because if you're really driven to do better, no matter how good you are, you'll always see your flaws and will always want to improve. So anyone who claims "I've made it" has failed. The second you sit back and feel comfy and satisfied with everything you did, it's all fucked.

>> No.4612528

>>4612514
I don't do every day. But I do 13 hours every ~1-3 days (tho it's partly work)
The more the better I guess? As long as you don't feel sick of it

>> No.4612539

>>4612011
Sounds based actually, better than social Darwinism slowly evolving into fascism

>> No.4612540
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4612540

Coping is bad perfectionism is death
But best is show 80% consistently if you read this you know what to do

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4612609

>>4611968
Everything worth doing is worth doing well.

>> No.4612631

>>4612539
In theory should work, in theory.

>> No.4612647

>>4612519
I personally see "making it" as that point when you have all of the fundamentals down and can take off the training wheels, so to speak. The point where you can consistently make good quality work and are mentally equipped to strike out on your own with your studies.
Think of it like a doctor, scientist or engineer getting their degree. It's not an endpoint, it's the beginning of the real work.

>> No.4612648

>>4612122
>the translator meme
kek wp

>> No.4612883

>>4612122
source anon?

>> No.4613272

>>4612011
Thats nice, meanwhile the Soviet Union had the best art academies in the world, and the most skilled realist painters during their times. Meanwhile, the art market gave us Pollock and Warhol

>> No.4613376

>>4613272
Cuz we all know that commie realism is peak art.

>> No.4614087

>>4613376
Not the best art, but at least you have to put effort into it, which cannot be said about contemporary junk sold to rich people

>> No.4614271

>>4614087
Yea, make a good portrait of the leader or you can get killed, that's actually good motivation.

>> No.4614308

>>4611968
The best art you’ll make is art you’re happy with

>> No.4614333

>>4612647
Yea that makes sense too. But I think most people will think of "making it" as reaching some goal and just stay there

>> No.4614400

>>4612011
>...communism, you don't have to be better there or compete with anyone...
That's not how it works at all. Communist societies are way more viciously competitive than capitalist ones, because it actually sucks being one of the losers in a communist regime. You can starve to death, or get killed as part of political games. Communism doesn't remove hierarchies, it just collapses everything into one single hierarchy where everyone is scrambling for the same goal. Free societies have some people going for material wealth, some for status, some for power, some for fame, some for love, some for freedom, some for security... in communism, all of those things are way more dependent on each other. You can't have material goods without the approval of the party, You can't have safety without the approval of the party. You can't be famous, or respected, or wield political power, or even just raise a family in peace without the party. The party is everywhere and pervades everything.

>> No.4614403

>>4612069
This, except hard work is required if you are talented too.