/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4607983]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make YOURSELF feel proud.

previous >>4605081


READ THE STICKY if you're new or need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

[Anonymous No.4608076]

>>4607983
If I want to learn anatomy is Hampton figure drawing course good or should I just go with Proko anatomy if I have basic proportions down?

[Anonymous No.4608090]

>>4608076
Hampton is garbage. Go with proko.

[Anonymous No.4608104]

>>4607983
5 minute gesture, about a month apart. Am I progressing?

[Anonymous No.4608127]

>>4608104
nope, doesn't feel like you improved to me.
Especially with that weird left hand.

[Anonymous No.4608157]

>>4608076
I suggest you to watch hampton videos from the video course thread then go into proko anatomy

[Anonymous No.4608224]

(I was advised to report this question because it was put on the tail end of the last thread)

Hello. This is my first time posting on this board. I finished this drawing yesterday and was told that the neck/head were flat, mispositioned, pretty much flawed. What do you guys think? Since then I watched a tutorial on youtube by Proko and made a quick sketch of the head and tried my best to position it correctly. Does it look correct? All feedback is welcome.

[Anonymous No.4608226]

>>4608224

[Anonymous No.4608232]

[Anonymous No.4608233]

>>4608224
repost*

[Anonymous No.4608237]

>>4608104
You're feeling the forms but only outlines of the forms. Try using construction in your gestures and feel those forms.

[Anonymous No.4608314]

I made a thread a few days ago asking for recs for art supplies. So far, I'm planning to get the Sakura fineliners and a kneaded eraser but I need some further recs for what pencils I should get. Also, what are some good sketchbooks that are inexpensive but functional. Keep in mind, I'm still a beginner and will be using these supplies and sketchbooks for learning to sketch and not for any large scale art pieces.

[Anonymous No.4608318]

[Anonymous No.4608324]

>>4608314
If you are a beg you don't need so much, just buy a 2B pencil and a cheap sketchbook. If you are planning on inking a piece you need a lightbox too.

[Anonymous No.4608329]

>>4608104
The forms do look more solid and your lines are more confident. Keep up the good work.

NMA has some free demos on YouTube of great artists like Vilppu doing this kind of gesture drawings so you can see what kind of information a master looks for when doing this kind of exercise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOtVUHgJqQk

[Anonymous No.4608337]

Does being a schizo affect your art, or the ability to percieve color? I was researching Louis Wain and noticed how his work changed drastically as his psychosis worsened.

[Anonymous No.4608340]

>>4608314
>pencils
I'm sure all of them are of decent quality nowadays. But there are three brands that are most often used: Faber-Castell, Staedtler and Mitsubishi (in Japan).
If you are in Europe I would suggest going with Staedtler for the fine liners too. Sakuras don't provide any benefit to justify importing it from that far away.
>sketchbooks for learning
I'm using plain printer paper.

[Anonymous No.4608347]

>>4608337
Schizophrenics are constantly hallucinating so drawing dank black light posters is easy mode for them.

[Anonymous No.4608358]

>>4608226
yout forgot the important vertical line that is part of the "T"
put that line and try again, it looks good so far, and maybe that far eye is a bit smaller than the closest eye

[Anonymous No.4608359]

Should i only focus on one book at a time until im done with it or can i switch if i want to focus on a different subject

[Anonymous No.4608365]

comfycore

[Anonymous No.4608372]

emotions

[Anonymous No.4608380]

>>4608372
you ever seen those movie where the actors have extremely bad acting?
That's the girl on the left and right.
But you nailed the middle one though.

[Anonymous No.4608386]

>>4607983
I'm trying to understand the forms of the body and I've moved onto learning clothing but I feel like most of the time I'm just putting down lines rather than capturing the form.

One of my main sources of inspiration is Edouard Guiton's work. I like how he exaggerates muscles and proportions and his loose style. Any advice?

Also are there any good guides for hatching and line weight?

[Anonymous No.4608389]

>>4608386
Also me from a year ago so I don't get too depressed.

[Anonymous No.4608397]

not happy with the hands
Any hand tweaks I should make? Other criticisms welcome too

[Anonymous No.4608398]

>>4608386
wait, you're doing so well, then suddenly his left arm melted (?) and feels soft and springy.
What's up with that?

[Anonymous No.4608424]

How's this

[Anonymous No.4608429]

what opacity and flow settings do you guys use to blend? Im using the basic flow brush preset in krita and I cant stop the shadows from looking splotchy when I try to blend them

[Anonymous No.4608436]

>>4608429
im only beg but u need to build on ur values bro.. work ur way up, start with the mid tone first. just use a hard round with pressure sensitivity after u have it right, then u can blend with color picker tool..
also the face proportions are off

[Anonymous No.4608438]

unironically feel like i've been holding my pen/pencil wrong for years. everytime i write for a minute or less my fingers hurt. i think i might get carpel tunnel if i continue doing this. anybody have specific ways of holding a pencil?

[Anonymous No.4608443]

I know I'm /Beg/
I wasn't trying to go dead on the reference, I want to do something a bit more simpler. But what are some things I could have done better? I tried my best not to symbol draw and did heavy construction before hand, however IDK if it works too well.

[Anonymous No.4608445]

>>4608443
gun is out of perspective

[Anonymous No.4608446]

>>4608436
thats what I did I don't know how to blend the planes

[Anonymous No.4608448]

>>4608443
It's pretty good, but then you drew the gun flat, and something about the helmet feels flat

[Anonymous No.4608449]

>>4608448
>>4608445
Yeah, now that I think of it when I did the initial construction I didn't think about the gun and helmet. Just the character's body. I made a fucky wucky.

[Anonymous No.4608467]

>>4608372
I like the middle girl, i feel the smiling girl has a gigantic smile but that's your stylization

[Anonymous No.4608476]

>>4608446
You mean like this?

[Anonymous No.4608482]

>>4608476
botched tis chin
feel the form or smearing will not work

[Anonymous No.4608486]

>>4608446

[Anonymous No.4608496]

>>4608486
thanks
>>4608476
what brush? i want something in between what you posted and the flat colors I posted

[Anonymous No.4608511]

>>4608496
any brush with pressure sensitivity. to get the gradient u have to select the color u want to blend with and lightly color on the opposite side. then use that new color to place on both sides to make a lighter and dark version. keep doing that until ur happy with it

[Anonymous No.4608515]

>>4608511
do you set pressure sensitivity to flow or opacity or both?

[Anonymous No.4608517]

>>4608515
idk much about flow.. opacity should be fine just mess around with it

[Anonymous No.4608523]

>>4608515
You should manually set flow. Low numbers for blending, high for block in.

[Anonymous No.4608524]

[Anonymous No.4608525]

>>4608524

[Anonymous No.4608526]

>>4608524
>>4608525
I'm aware the second has more soul, but was I able to fix the highlighted issue?

[Anonymous No.4608533]

>Draw pages and pages of cubes with shading for a week
>Look back to start
>I've somehow gotten worse.

[Anonymous No.4608579]

Progress on my redrawing of my character's head, following the method described in Proko's head tutorial. (I made sure to add the vertical line) Right side is before, Left is after. Any feedback is appreciated. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.4608592]

>>4608127
>>4608237
Crabs.

>>4608329
Thanks, Vilppu is my hero I'll keep working on it.

>>4607983
Here's some studies I've done today, taking a break from gestures to work on rendering forms from shapes.

[Anonymous No.4608600]

>>4608592
why are you even here?
go somewhere else if you just want somebody to suck your dick.
Go to a place with lower standard so people much worse than you will look up to you like some kind of god.
While you're at it, go to kindergarten so you can show them who's the baby king.

[Anonymous No.4608604]

>>4608600
Seething.

[Anonymous No.4608619]

i made balls

[Anonymous No.4608622]

>>4608579
Better version

[Anonymous No.4608623]

>>4608429
Try using the smudge tool with a scatter brush, I'm pretty sure Krita has that too.
Also, you are forgetting reflected light, her jaw in shadow should be lighter than her cheek in shadow.

[Anonymous No.4608630]

>>4608623
thanks. yeah I wasn't sure if i should be using the smudge tools or not so I was trying the color mixing thing

[Anonymous No.4608633]

>>4608619
I like your balls, look at them at thumbnail size and see if you can fix the lighting on a small scale.

[Anonymous No.4608647]

>>4608533
That happened to me when I was a teenager. I gave up on art and focused on music for a decade. Starting to get back into visual art via sculpture though.

[Anonymous No.4608648]

>>4607983
Started loomis floating heads last week. This is a 50% rule dragon. Also decided to experiment with shading but haven't read anything about that yet.

[Anonymous No.4608653]

>>4608592
If you're doing this digitally you might as well use a brush to render instead of cross-hatching

[Anonymous No.4608659]

>>4608653
I'm tempted to do that but I'd like to be able to jump between digital and paper so I've created a brush that's as close to a pen as I can. Yeah I know I'm making it harder on myself, double hard because it's a pen and I try not to erase much as well.

[Anonymous No.4608671]

Anyone else have trouble balancing practicing drawing with practicing other things?
I've been teaching myself how to play guitar and find it hard to balance my energy between the two.

[Anonymous No.4608694]

I tried cranking out some hands and fundies today. I just went to like line of action or a site like that and would get random hand photos with a 3 min timer. I was just trying to get the construction down. Am I approaching studying hands wrong?

[Anonymous No.4608718]

[Anonymous No.4608720]

Sometimes I forget why I want to get into this. I've never watched anime or didn't read much manga, so I don't have much appreciation for it, and I'm not really much of a coomer so drawing porn is certainly not a thing.
I just want to give back to imageboards and create OC for them, have the talent for when something big happens, and not end up frustrated or sad when the OC creators disappear to forever due to me being an asshole towards them at some point and having the guilt on me.
But it's hard as hell, at least these first steps are hard as hell.

[Anonymous No.4608722]

>>4608579
I think you should twist the head less cause I don't think a head can twist that much easily, try doing it yourself.

[Anonymous No.4608732]

>Fun with a Pencil is the first book in the baby bitch beginners MEGA
>Results from using are "symbol drawing go read sraw right side of brain"
Which is then where do I fucking START

[Anonymous No.4608762]

>>4608630
smudge is actually a lot closer to how it works traditionally than using the color picker.

[Anonymous No.4608764]

>>4608720
soul

[Anonymous No.4608765]

>>4608592
>>4608600
>>4608653
>>4607983
>>4608329
I reshaded the boobies, maximum effort.

[Anonymous No.4608767]

>>4608732
start with drawing on the right side and keys to drawing, loomis comes later

[Anonymous No.4608768]

>>4607983
Just picked up my tablet

why's it so hard?

[Anonymous No.4608770]

>>4608732
Start with Vilppu's videos and end with Hampton, you won't regret it.

[Anonymous No.4608773]

>>4608768
It's made out of plastic.

[Anonymous No.4608775]

>>4608773
every line i make is wonky as fuck :(

[Anonymous No.4608776]

>>4608768
Because you don't have enough fundamentals or experience with traditional art. Go do some Ctrl paint videos or something.

[Anonymous No.4608780]

>>4608775
Mate it took me weeks before I was happy with my tablet settings, quit complaining you little shit the tablet is the least of your problems.

[Anonymous No.4608783]

>>4608776
I'll go through these this week. Seen it recommended a lot

[Anonymous No.4608829]

I'm going through Mastering Light and Form Dorian Iten. and did this exercise where you make a light guide and then invent an object in the scene and make it look natural.
How is this so far ? any help is appreciated

[Anonymous No.4608831]

>>4608829
Another one

[Anonymous No.4608841]

>>4608090
Based

[Anonymous No.4608846]

>>4608720
>I just want to give back to imageboards and create OC for them, have the talent for when something big happens, and not end up frustrated or sad when the OC creators disappear to forever due to me being an asshole towards them at some point and having the guilt on me.
jesus christ, try not living online for once and try not building your personality around 4chan.

[Anonymous No.4608950]

comments please, what did I fuck up this time?

[Anonymous No.4608970]

>>4607983
5 min
I tried

The weird lines are supposed to look like he's punching with his left arm. Keyword supposed.

[Anonymous No.4609083]

>>4608831
Thank you for showing me this exercise I was too dumb to think of it

[Anonymous No.4609099]

>>4608950
everything

[Anonymous No.4609101]

>>4608318
Line tool on blade looks dumb

[Anonymous No.4609114]

>>4608950
Eyes don't match expression
No chest arc
Shoulders mounted too forward on chest

[Anonymous No.4609147]

[Anonymous No.4609169]

>>4609147
are you even using references?

[Anonymous No.4609180]

>>4608720
Whats wrong with you? You put too much stock into this place, geez, its just a fucking shitposting art board

[Anonymous No.4609186]

>>4609169
I pose in the mirror for reference

[Anonymous No.4609196]

>>4609114
Thank you

[Anonymous No.4609204]

>>4609186
I'm sorry you're a think with clubfoot

[Anonymous No.4609205]

>>4609204
Twink*

[Anonymous No.4609209]

how to face

[Anonymous No.4609211]

>>4609209
Study skills and muscles

[Anonymous No.4609247]

>>4609101
your post on this website looks dumb

[Anonymous No.4609286]

>>4609247
sharper things have sharper lines.

[Anonymous No.4609306]

>>4608398
Dude I didn't even realise. Jesus Christ.

I can only assume that as I was drawing I was thinking 'gotta draw the wrist angled downward' and that translated into a boneless arm.

[Anonymous No.4609327]

kill myself or keep practicing?

[Anonymous No.4609332]

>>4609327
Both, but you decide what to do first

[Anonymous No.4609334]

>>4609327
Both

[Anonymous No.4609369]

Drew some Kongs

[Anonymous No.4609371]

>>4608950
samefag here, what specific mistakes am I making here?

[Anonymous No.4609379]

>>4609371
>>4609327

[Anonymous No.4609381]

>>4609371
Feet and hands too small but I like the eyes

[Anonymous No.4609382]

>>4609379
>>4609371

I'm already going through it, but just started drawing around two weeks ago

[Anonymous No.4609390]

>>4609371
>that jaw shape
toriyama fan?

[Anonymous No.4609392]

>>4609379
im already doing this book but its kinda shitty, it doesnt provide any real method

it just says: this is the manequin:
learn proportions
draw a lot of mannequins!

these are important landmarks

then its just a shitload of finished rendered stuff that obviously i cant draw

is there any anatomy book thats a step by step series of excersises and not just some jerkoff thats completely useless for begginers?

[Anonymous No.4609421]

>>4609392
No. Because anatomy and the human figure is the most difficult thing out there.
Start small with boxes and forms then move on to shapes and drawing from ref.

[Anonymous No.4609423]

>>4609421
Wait whats the difference between Forms and Shapes?

[Anonymous No.4609428]

>>4609423
Forms are made out of different shapes. You can't "feel" a shape but you can feel form.

[Anonymous No.4609431]

>>4609423
its nothing as esoteric as this >>4609428
retard says

form = 2d

shape =3d

[Anonymous No.4609433]

>>4609431
thats literally what i said.

[Anonymous No.4609438]

>>4609433
>
the way you said it a noob could think it was some sort of philosophical distinction

[Anonymous No.4609441]

>>4609392
start thinking about what youve learned as you copy from life. draw it straight out from looking at it. then tryit again with construction methods you know. pick one of the three.

[Anonymous No.4609456]

>>4609441
Got more images like that or a site where i can find them?

[Anonymous No.4609457]

>>4609431
other way around

[Anonymous No.4609464]

>>4609441
ok when i get back home ill do 1

[Anonymous No.4609477]

>>4609209

[Anonymous No.4609479]

>>4609456
nothing you wont find in the threads about this board i dont think. search for infinitetriplegangers

[Anonymous No.4609503]

>>4608386
Which books did you studied?

[Anonymous No.4609533]

>>4609503
fuck off esl faggot

[Anonymous No.4609544]

>Trying to draw a full-body using the whole paper
>Body Is good but head i small as heck
Why does this happen everytime?

[Anonymous No.4609545]

>trying to draw some really, really basic picture I like from pixiv, literally no shading, tones, or colour at all, just pencil lines
>my copy looks look some completely fucked up "kawaii uguu~" monstrosity
Holy shit why is this so fucking hard. I am literally copying the lines 1:1 but somehow my drawing is absolute trash.

[Anonymous No.4609557]

>>4609545
pyw

[Anonymous No.4609587]

Rhythm is the uninterrupted motion of a figure. Convey with (repeated) line. Balance are places of a figure that carry weight. These areas are also where form is most important, so convey with circles. Together, they inform motion, which is a sort of disturbed balance. This is how I understand these concepts, thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4609590]

>>4609587
shit that rhythm makes no fucking sense lmfao. Should have been how the eye flows through the figure.

[Anonymous No.4609641]

just getting started with pixel art, took a fondness for 1 bit stuff, any tips? here's one i just made

[Anonymous No.4609658]

>>4609641
Your image is 1 bit too, I can't click it

[Anonymous No.4609673]

>>4609641
>>4609587
where are your images?

[Anonymous No.4609703]

>>4609382
You are definitely doing fine for 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.4609716]

Haven't looked at a reference for this yet, but is it at least in the ballpark of working? (i.e. will I polish a turd if I try to work in correct anatomy now?)
I have no idea what the legs are doing so those will probably have to be redrawn, same for the shitty face but I have no idea how for either.

(Ignore the garbage shading, it's mostly to understand what I'm looking at to get rid of wrong lines)

[Anonymous No.4609717]

Alright, did this quickly to help me with the hatching. Opinions on the whole thing?

[Anonymous No.4609722]

>>4609717
The face will definitely need to be redone completely, I don't understand how the body is this much better

[Anonymous No.4609726]

>>4607983
I feel like shit.

I just want to show art and impress people. Who do I suck?

[Anonymous No.4609734]

>>4609722
faces are definitely my weakest point, how would you redline it tho? I am going for a kemono style similar to Aru Urara and suurin_2

[Anonymous No.4609736]

>>4609734
I can't redline it, I'm this guy >>4609716

[Anonymous No.4609744]

>>4609533
seething /beg/

[Anonymous No.4609746]

[Anonymous No.4609751]

>>4609734
>>4609736
I gave it a try anyways, pls give me some advice in return

[Anonymous No.4609775]

>>4609751
>didn't even bother to make the head bigger

ngmi

[Anonymous No.4609782]

>>4609775
shit you are right it's too small

[Anonymous No.4609841]

Still struggling to resist the urge to draw contours when doing 30 second gestures pls help
also yes my phone hates taking photos that aren't blurred to shit

[Anonymous No.4609855]

is 1 drawing daily enough to make it?

[Anonymous No.4609856]

>>4609841
nice pls post 15 sec

[Anonymous No.4609858]

>>4609855
yes. but if you're asking yourself that, you're already ngmi

[Anonymous No.4609862]

>>4608224
>>4608226
Is that... a diaper? Bro >>>/d/

[Anonymous No.4609882]

I feel like I'm starting to get Takehiko Inoue's style.

[Anonymous No.4609886]

did this yesterday, I could not make the hand look good. but other than looking very flat I think the rest looks ok, how about you /ic/?

[Anonymous No.4609888]

>>4609862
don't be a fag. even though /beg/ only crits pinups of naked titty monsters, the board still exists for art criticism. the content is irrelevant, otherwise 99% of images would get funneled to /h/ or /e/

[Anonymous No.4609889]

Just started drawing on a tablet, so please tear this to shreds and let me know what I can work on. (especially with doing skin/shading/facial structure/etc)

[Anonymous No.4609894]

>>4609886
It's mc paint tier drawing what kind of critique are you expecting?

[Anonymous No.4609898]

>>4609841
I think watching proko's video on "the bean" would help you not draw contours

[Anonymous No.4609905]

>>4609898
I did watch prokos video on The Bean. Its stopped me drawing two ovals for the torso/pelvis. Hasn't stopped me doing funky ovals/ellipses for the arms and legs yet

[Anonymous No.4609938]

>>4609717
you are maing....... the .... anime...CHADS!!!!!!!!!!!!1 look bad bro. grind more loomis™

[Anonymous No.4609952]

>>4609856
instructions unclear did 60 secs

[Anonymous No.4609953]

>>4609952
Noooo please make 15 sec

[Anonymous No.4609967]

>>4608829
This one looks fine
>>4608831
Here, however, I fell like the shadows should be darker especially the top of that boxy object, It's pointing entirely away from the only light source after all.

[Anonymous No.4609973]

>>4608970
I think bottom portion of the body is too big. Might just be the weir angle but still, double check your proportions.

[Anonymous No.4609975]

Post refs please

[Anonymous No.4609976]

>>4609147
learn gesture

[Anonymous No.4609981]

Latest version of my characters head, drawn using Loomis' method of construction. Is it getting better? Worse? Second image is the reference I am using to draw my character.

[Anonymous No.4609984]

>>4609981

[Anonymous No.4609988]

>>4609544
Draw the feet and head simultaneously using both of your hands. That way when they meet in the middle you'll have perfect proportions.

[Anonymous No.4609992]

>>4609746
not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4609995]

Are there any YouTube videos that you guys consider a "must watch" for people getting into their art?

[Anonymous No.4610011]

>>4609967
Thanks i felt kinda the same but wanted to get another opinion, will redo it. much appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4610013]

I got so sick and tired of figure drawing that I decided on doing some vehicle renders, to freshen things up a bit

[Anonymous No.4610016]

>>4609981
its nice but its anime, how do you even get there from loomis?

[Anonymous No.4610019]

Botched the construction on this one but felt too invested not to finish it

[Anonymous No.4610020]

>>4610013
Hood should be longer than windscreen, windows are sort of a mess and you're not drawing what you see on the roof of it but otherwise that looks like it's coming along nicely

[Anonymous No.4610021]

Last one.How many of these before I reach Scott Robertson levels?

[Anonymous No.4610034]

>>4608397
-the legs do not stick together like that, even if foreshortened
-the ear looks detached from the head
-people usually hold a phone facing their body. Try holding your phone in the same position as the drawing, uncomfortable, isn't it?
-the arm holding the phone is very close to the body, as if it were relaxed. This arm is holding onto an object, so it should not be relaxed, the muscles should be tensed, and the arm should be farther away from the body because of this.

A simple fix is just to take a pic of yourself naturally holding your phone with that kind of pose, and see what things you got wrong.

[Anonymous No.4610035]

>>4610013
lookin alright but the parallel lines on the side are all outta whack

[Anonymous No.4610039]

>>4608224
You sick fuck.

[Anonymous No.4610044]

Hey can I get some critique before I start painting over it?

[Anonymous No.4610049]

>>4609726
P-pls respond?

[Anonymous No.4610050]

Man, I really never bothered with all those vilpu video's, wasn't on a good enough level anyway. But god damn they are a godsend now. Subjects really come to life in the way he's teaching. It's giving me motivation lads.

[Anonymous No.4610055]

>>4609726
Loomis

[Anonymous No.4610056]

Been drawing for a while, a /Beg/ and started painting today. I know this sucks, I know its awful, but any tips would be greatly appreciated. I tried to see where the lightest parts and the darkest parts are. I know I didn't capture it perfectly (or even okay for that matter).

[Anonymous No.4610058]

>>4610056
You're not painting you're coloring.

[Anonymous No.4610064]

>>4610039
Thats not very nice to say.

[Anonymous No.4610066]

>>4610058
How do you mean?

[Anonymous No.4610069]

>>4610049
I feel like ive seen your stuff a few times and it never looks like you're trying anything new or anything out of reference or anything out of an instruction book
you aren't a magical genius, you need to learn what to do just like everyone else

[Anonymous No.4610072]

>>4610066
With painting you are building form by putting blocks of value down. You have to be very much aware of the shape/form you are painting. What you are attempting is to replicate the colors without considering the form.

I suggest doing value and form studies first before attempting something like this.

[Anonymous No.4610074]

>>4610069
Which book do you recommend me to begin with? I'll get straight to it

[Anonymous No.4610075]

>>4610074
Mein kampf

[Anonymous No.4610076]

>>4610075
how dare you

[Anonymous No.4610082]

any issues ?

[Anonymous No.4610087]

>>4610035
Damn didn't notice it was that bad, I guess that's why a second pair of eyes are important. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4610088]

>Look
See the curve of the curve of the outer hand
>Hold
Rationalise the curve as a shallow bracket
>Draw
Draw the bracket going the complete opposite directio-godDAMNIT

[Anonymous No.4610094]

>>4610074
https://mega.nz/folder/vp5hQCbQ#oCNGOUgaVeK1pHs3qasJDQ
you seem like a symbol drawing is a big hurdle for you so i'd start with The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Davis along with drawabox and some Loomis
or do some proko tutorials on youtube
mix it up and keep doing your own stuff as well so you don't get tutorial burn out

[Anonymous No.4610104]

>>4610094
Betty Edwards, dunno what made me think Davis
too much left brain supression

[Anonymous No.4610107]

some posses from imagination

[Anonymous No.4610111]

>>4610104
sweet thanks.

Is it okay to follow these books digitally?

[Anonymous No.4610116]

>>4610035
you ever flip your canvas horizontally or nah

[Anonymous No.4610117]

>>4610111
some say no, but I think it's fine as long as you are using a drawing program like krita or clip studio paint

[Anonymous No.4610121]

>>4610082
The biggest thing I notice is while I like how the hair is done, unlike the rest of the drawing it doesn't suggest much about how light affects the hair; I'd push it just a little bit just so it doesn't like so outlined. I could be wrong so feel free to try it on a separate layer and ignore me if it looks kinda shit; I like how your stuff looks keep at it.

[Anonymous No.4610125]

>>4610087
>>4610116

[Anonymous No.4610126]

>>4610094
I'm trying to use that and Keys to Drawing and it fucking sucks ass goddamn.
How do I Look-Hold-Draw properly?

[Anonymous No.4610127]

>>4610121
thanks for the feedback, you're right I didn't know how to put shadow on the hair so I did nothing. I guess I need to do more study and focus on hair.

[Anonymous No.4610141]

>>4609545
Your lines mustn't be the same as the artists, theres a difference between a confident line and one where you are still learning

[Anonymous No.4610147]

[Anonymous No.4610149]

>>4609938
I need to start drawing anime girls so I get these kind of replies

[Anonymous No.4610150]

>>4607983
How do I stop having my hand be so fucking shaky I can't even draw a circle

[Anonymous No.4610152]

>>4610126
go through the drawabox.com goes over things like practice making lines and such

[Anonymous No.4610153]

>>4610127
It's not a perfect reference, but since you were looking for messy short hair I figured this would be an okay starting point. If you squint your eyes you can notice the grooves between the hair are the darkest (about as dark as your eyebrows should be), but wit top of the hair clumps the lightest. This should make the top of his head look more like patches of grass.

Again it's not the best reference in the world as the face shadows aren't as pronounced as I'd hope (probable because a diffuse light was used), but hopefully it'd get the idea across. Also if anyone else knows their shit and thinks I'm giving bad advice feel free to let me know.

[Anonymous No.4610159]

>>4609716
I'd say look at some references, I don't know why you would try to draw something from imagination, then go "Does this look good?"
>>4609886
Looks like something a 12 year old made, if you want some criticism, start taking a look at art fundamentals like Form, Perspective, Construction.
>>4609889
The style feels too noisy, maybe that's what you're going for? Hard to critique when something I say could just be a stylistic choice, I will say he feels very flat, but you did a good job with his sillhoutte, it seems like you can at least see negative space or are able to feel the edge of your subject. If you want to draw more people, go look up how to construct them, or at least heads, so you draw something 3d instead of flat.
>>4610056
Kinda seems like you are still symbol drawing, I don't know much about painting, but I would at least look up some beginner tutorials if I were you, theres probably tips about blending and how to set up whatever art program you are using for painting.
>>4610150
Practice. Unless you have some sort of medical condition, your hands shouldn't be shaking too much unless you're hungry or have low blood sugar. Also make sure you aren't drawing with your fingers, you should be trying to draw with your shoulder/elbow while your hand and wrist are stiff.

[Anonymous No.4610161]

>>4610159
>Keep your hand and wrist stiff while drawing with your shoulder/elbow
oh
I would've never thought of that.

[Anonymous No.4610169]

>>4608846
>>4609180
>implying this is the only imageboard on the internet

[Anonymous No.4610173]

>>4608718
Kokkoro oh God my heratnfnfnfnfn

[Anonymous No.4610195]

>>4607983
any critique would be appreciated

[Anonymous No.4610199]

>>4610195
here's another one I did a few days ago

[Anonymous No.4610210]

>>4609975
bump

[Anonymous No.4610212]

>>4608829
>>4608831
I did another one made the front round and the back kinda like a box

[Anonymous No.4610213]

>>4609975

>>4610195
looks nice clean up the linework

[Anonymous No.4610220]

>>4609976
Can you be more specific, what kind of gesture study

[Anonymous No.4610222]

>>4610199
are you studying from Yusuke Murata's work?

[Anonymous No.4610223]

Hopping on the trend

[Anonymous No.4610226]

>>4610222
yeah, i like his style a lot. I'm not a fan of his OPM capeshit, but eyeshield 21 is where he really shines. I want to reach this point, I think I can master it in 5-10 years if I train dilligently

[Anonymous No.4610230]

what do I read to learn how to shade?

[Anonymous No.4610238]

>>4610226
He still shines quite a few times in opm.

[Anonymous No.4610248]

>>4610238
of course, im not demeaning OPM, i just prefer the overall stylization and look of e21

[Anonymous No.4610274]

Hello! I'm having trouble with this piece, the composition feels off and I'm too stupid to figure out why. The anatomy of her left arm (your right) looks wack. I dislike the blue flower on her left leg as well since it draws the eye for no reason, but I can't take it away because it's someone else's character. Is there any way I could fix that? Thank you!

[Anonymous No.4610280]

>>4610274
there is no visible neck, which throws the whole thing off. other than that it's pretty nice

[Anonymous No.4610282]

>>4610274
Her head is tiny. The left arm is wack because there's no elbow. Try a muted blue/teal so it's less striking.

[Anonymous No.4610290]

>>4610280
Oh fuck I didn’t even think about that :0 I mean I thought about her neck in the sketch phase but I figured since her head is dipping lower between her shoulders, it would be covered by her jawline.

So, should I move her hair to show the neck, bring her head further up, or change the face construction to show that her head really is tilted down enough to cover her neck? I’m looking at it now and I totally see what you mean, she looks pudgy lmao :’)

[Anonymous No.4610293]

>>4610290
her head should be resting on her right arm, with the neck visible next to the left arm

[Anonymous No.4610297]

>>4609886
ok compared to what? what art style are you aiming at?

[Anonymous No.4610302]

>>4610282
Thank you! This is good advice. I’ll definitely work it some and post again, if that’s alright on this board. Do you notice anything about her left shoulder that is uncomfortable? With the way her arm is flowing up to her palm, it looks almost like it’s turned the wrong way for that. Does that make sense or am I tricking myself?

[Anonymous No.4610307]

>>4610293
It’s so crazy that I could miss something that big, I must have gotten tunnel vision from working so long. I’ll start to run through the layers and bring her neck out, thank you again!

[Anonymous No.4610310]

>>4610307
:)

[Anonymous No.4610312]

>>4610159
Thanks for the genuine advice

[Anonymous No.4610320]

>>4610302
I messed with it a bit, her left shoulder probably looked weird because of what >>4610293 said + awkward armpit. Scaled the head up and also the legs are too bendy/noodley, so I changed the pose, but I don't know if that's what you're going for. You could also try crossing her legs.

[Anonymous No.4610391]

give 'em

[Anonymous No.4610392]

eyes and lips are definitely messed up, anything else? how are the values?

[Anonymous No.4610404]

>>4609726
Have you tried not being autistic?

[Anonymous No.4610406]

[Anonymous No.4610415]

>>4610320
Okay! I futzed around a bit, your edit was a huge help. She already looks so much better (': Someday I'll be able to spot this shit on my own I stg

I'm hoping I won't have to move/resize her head again since there are so many layers but I'm assuming I will! Anything I need to fix/adjust again? I'm a little worried about the neck, and how to light it. She's supposed to have a vine wrapped around it..

[Anonymous No.4610417]

>>4610392
maybe something there

[Anonymous No.4610419]

>>4610417
thank you that helps a lot

[Anonymous No.4610426]

>>4610392
I really like this reference and your devotion to it
nice color choice as well

[Anonymous No.4610432]

>>4609746
you can leave /beg/

[Anonymous No.4610434]

>>4610426
thanks
the reference is really nice, I need to go and find more with strong lighting

heres one for >>4609975

[Anonymous No.4610436]

Here i'm doing gestures with straight lines then some simple structure using tubes and then the rib cage and pelvis, how im doing so far ?.

[Anonymous No.4610437]

>>4610436
another one

[Anonymous No.4610439]

>>4610436
>>4610437
and last one

[Anonymous No.4610446]

>>4610437
Ground them
Right now I know you are focusing on the rib cage and pelvis but it is better to see how they stand in ground also
Pelvis might be too high and angled in an odd way
Look at how Bridgman places his pelvis
He puts them in an angle

[Anonymous No.4610447]

>>4610439
The same anon who said look at Bridgeman
This one is the best one and feels natural

[Anonymous No.4610448]

>>4610044
make the diadem less flat it should be curved to fit on the head

[Anonymous No.4610486]

>>4610446
>>4610447
Thanks anon i will check bridgman.

[Anonymous No.4610525]

>>4610448
Thanks anon, I changed the diadem to be more curved so it fits the head better. Is there anything else I should tweak or mess with before painting it?

[Anonymous No.4610528]

>>4607983
Haven't posted in a while. Been lazy this month.

[Anonymous No.4610551]

>>4610525
curve it the other way, start from where you were before and curve it slightly downwards

[Anonymous No.4610555]

Back muscles are black magic to me.

[Anonymous No.4610561]

I'm not very skilled when it comes to anything more detailed. I want more blended shadows instead of one solid color.

[Anonymous No.4610579]

>>4610551
I looked up a reference and I see what you meant now. I also made the mouth slightly bigger because it was a bit too small.

[Anonymous No.4610607]

>>4609746
huh. suddenly milk bottles make sense to me.

[Anonymous No.4610664]

I've read the sticky but I don't have an answer to my question, should I start with analog or digital? I have a feeling I'm going to be using digital more in the future, but there's so many extra steps like if I want to change thickness or opacity or shading. I've been straying away from analog because I have OCD and I don't want to get graphite and eraser sheddings everywhere. What do you guys reccomend? I know it's probably easier and better to start off analog, but can you start off digital?

[Anonymous No.4610677]

>>4610664
draw in analog mainly, then edit in digital. Trust me, this wil do WONDERS for your speed of progression

[Anonymous No.4610678]

>>4610664
whichever gets you drawing the most.

[Anonymous No.4610679]

>>4610677
Thanks will do. I thought this would be the case but again I didnt want to deal with fucking annoying pencil and eraser shavings. Guess ill suck it up.

[Anonymous No.4610683]

Drawing goblins but still not managing to make them look cute.

[Anonymous No.4610685]

>>4610679
Get a lead holder and a kneaded eraser and you won't have that issue.

[Anonymous No.4610696]

>>4610683
try larger eyes, small body compared to a head. basically increase the similarities to a small child and it will look cuter

[Anonymous No.4610704]

do we have a beg discord yet

[Anonymous No.4610710]

>>4609327
practice... killing yourself???

[Anonymous No.4610712]

>>4610704
make one

[Anonymous No.4610713]

>>4610712
I already manage a server, i'm /beg/ though it'd make sense if someone actually good runs it.

[Anonymous No.4610720]

>>4610683
>Goblin
>Cute
NEVER!!

[Anonymous No.4610721]

[Anonymous No.4610729]

I need to get a darker pencil, trying to make the eye look more 3d and work on lighting. Any crit/tips?

[Anonymous No.4610735]

>>4610721
i really like the stylization. work on body proportions and this would be great

[Anonymous No.4610736]

So, I folow a gang of artists on Twitter have those who I like etc.
Am I supposed to pick someone I like the most and draw like them? Once I pass the absolute basic basics how does stylization come about?

[Anonymous No.4610748]

>>4610729
i would say work on your values. The whites of the eye should not be as light as the skin around it. Don't be afraid to make your darks really dark. For 3d, try practicing on shading spheres first.

[Anonymous No.4610752]

>>4610528
Looks really good mate, I love this.

Don't shy away from adding value, make the dark parts darker and draw more confidently, it'll make the drawing more dynamic. Your lines and shapes are there, bring them out

[Anonymous No.4610782]

>>4608224
>>4608226
where is the poop bulge bro

[Anonymous No.4610787]

>>4608337
>cat before the spiritual awakening
>cat as a spiritual awakened mortal
>cat as an ascended being
Beautiful.

[Anonymous No.4610789]

So I'm trying to grind loomis. after making the main sphere how do I know how big the circle for the side of the head should be??

[Anonymous No.4610791]

>>4610782
poop lump theory

[Anonymous No.4610801]

tf am I doing

[Anonymous No.4610802]

First time feeling confortable drawing the figure without reference, but I still need to work on the center of gravity and proportions.

>>4610789
You shouldn't worry too much about measuring the diagram, grind making some loomis heads from reference to get a intuitive feeling for it. But if you want to be precise, acoording to this channel, it's 1/8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blh_Jmv_SpQ&list=PL997J9GK12WOL1PNmw3RMcjLRptI14WJi&index=8

[Anonymous No.4610810]

>>4610801
try harder, draw proper circles and keep straight lines straight. You cant expect to draw a face if you cant draw basic shapes

[Anonymous No.4610811]

>>4608720
It sounds like you need something to ignite your passion for art. Wanting to draw for others is a good thing, but I would also consider drawing for yourself too. Maybe go watch some movies, anime, read books and manga, see if they inspire you.

Also don't worry about not drawing coom, many artist don't and they do just fine.

[Anonymous No.4610816]

>>4610810
if everyone here can draw a perfect sphere first time then I guess I've gotta go back to drawabox 3rd lesson because clearly I missed the boat

[Anonymous No.4610820]

>Keys to Drawing exercise says to allow X minutes/hours
>Take at least triple the amount of time despite not aiming for (or producing) perfection
Am I lying to myself? Should I start setting a hard limit and refuse to go over it?

[Anonymous No.4610821]

>>4610816
Practice more heads in general

[Anonymous No.4610822]

>>4610816
You don't need to freehand perfect circles to draw a single head. Just use the ellipse tool and construct a head start to finish. Work with reference.

[Anonymous No.4610824]

>>4610822
isn't that cheating though

[Anonymous No.4610832]

>>4610824
Isn't using ctrl+z cheating? Who cares? You are working digitally, probably with a small tablet and are using the wrist most of the time. The wrist is the worst joint to draw curves with, there is absolutely no point in spending weeks training your arm to draw a simple perfect circle on a tablet. If you need one, use the tool and spend your time learning something actually useful.

[Anonymous No.4610834]

>>4610832
Ok

[Anonymous No.4610849]

>>4610437
>>4610439
More gesture and less form / outlining, get the gesture right first.

[Anonymous No.4610854]

What should I fix before shading this in? I'm having trouble with the chin and between that part between the cheek and chin, it's just weird. Should this part just be simplified?

[Anonymous No.4610856]

>been studying seriously for a week or two now and have learned the importance of using references in art
Bros... how do they make lolicon art

[Anonymous No.4610859]

>>4610854
Moved the skull in a bit.

[Anonymous No.4610863]

>>4610856
Lolis only look child-like or just cutified, they're not anatomically correct, that would get them arrested. Also kids in swimsuits are everywhere.

[Anonymous No.4610874]

>>4610859
Trying to fix side of face.

[Anonymous No.4610917]

>>4610212
Look at the back of their heads. There's a secondary, much warmer, light source

[Anonymous No.4610961]

Finally, a 5 minutes gesture(?) drawing I'm satisfied with. Means I don't know the glaring mistakes.

[Anonymous No.4610963]

>>4610961

[Anonymous No.4610969]

Alright, roast me.

[Anonymous No.4610978]

>>4610961
This isn't gesture. This is a rendering. Gesture captures the flow of a pose, the energy, and the stance. It's generally quick line drawings, often just stick figures or just quick, flowing contour lines. Reclining poses are generally poor for gesture, as there's no gesture implicit in a still figure. You want a dynamic pose, where the model is moving, or is frozen mid movement.

And, the face is a complete cop out. practice capturing the basic contours of the face. You have a reference right there. (But not in a gesture drawing)

[Anonymous No.4610980]

>>4610969
Forget shading, and use a smaller brush, or a larger canvas. Learn to capture contour to begin with. Think LINE. You're layering mistakes in rendering on top of mistakes in contour. Break it down, simplify.
What you're trying to do here is to far out of your ability. Go back and start over working just in line. Don't try to draw every hair, capture the form, volume and depth with line.

[Anonymous No.4610982]

>>4610824
Using tools isn't cheating. Nobody expect anyone to draw perfectly freehand. Nobody ever has.

[Anonymous No.4610989]

>>4610729
If you're going to crosshatch, learn to do it properly, way cleaner, and done appropriately. You're just scribbling random lines, and you haven't established any clear, accurate contour lines or edges, which is crucial for the eye and it's forms. And, eye lashes are not black blobs, they're hair - and eyebrows are hair that has a grain, they're not crosshatched lines, and they have a form and structure.
Pay more attention to what you see, capture it accurately, then worry about rendering with something as advanced as crosshatching

[Anonymous No.4611004]

>>4610980
>You're layering mistakes in rendering on top of mistakes in contour.

What's wrong with the contour? >>4610874

[Anonymous No.4611015]

What's the best book/resource to learn to actually draw what I'm looking at accurately? I'm so shit at sketching from reference

[Anonymous No.4611028]

[Anonymous No.4611186]

>>4610107
I like that you can clearly make out the forms. Doesn't just look like empty shapes and lines.

[Anonymous No.4611191]

>>4610963
Source?

[Anonymous No.4611217]

>>4611191
https://vimeo.com/388333122

[Anonymous No.4611221]

mew

>>4611220
>>4611220
>>4611220

[Anonymous No.4611363]

>>4608314
Printer paper and any functional pencil is enough, stop getting ahead of yourself.

[Anonymous No.4611372]

>>4608579
I commend your efforts. Good to see someone listening to feedback.

I recommend moving the nose right and the mouth left a little bit to simulate facial structure. You also placed the eyes to close together now because you ran out of space on the face. You did this because you didn't foreshorten the eyes correctly. Make them less wide horizontally, but keep their vertical size. Catch my drift?

[Anonymous No.4611376]

Based vilppu lectures

[Anonymous No.4611380]

>>4608694
Those are some decent hands, and I feel like you could at the very least shit out some okay hands when you need them for a real drawing. I think you should try some shaded ones now.

[Anonymous No.4611519]

>>4609544
Head is realistic size, just not animu. Do some measuring before you slap it down.. or just use photoshop and fix it in post.

[Anonymous No.4611524]

>>4609545
There's a physical dexterity side to drawing needed to even do anything, regardless of knowledge.

[Anonymous No.4611533]

>>4609841
The point of gestures is learning flow and movement, not shape. Contours are specifically for early begs to learn shape, no much else.

[Anonymous No.4611536]

>>4609882
You're copying him instead of learning the fundamentals he did to get where he is, and it shows.

[Anonymous No.4611594]

>>4610056
It's not even your drawing skills that are the problem, it's your lack of observation. You need to actually look at the guy and recreate what you see. Look at the distance between his eyebrows and his eyes, look at how dark that bit is, look at the side of his irises, look at the highlights on the side of his face, look at the side of his lips, etc, etc.

[Anonymous No.4611636]

>>4610415
Random anon jumping in.
You should get the proportions right before you start rendering. The head is still on the small side. The neck should probably only receive secondary light, but you seem to be doing some sort of cel-shading, so I don't even know what you're trying to achieve there.
I think overall it's a little hard to make out the shapes because of the shading style. There's a lack of reflective light and highlight.
The colour choices are a bit strange also. Purple and red are a difficult combination, and their similar value levels make them flow into each other even more.. darker hair or lighter skin would help. Yet the vines are suddenly very dark, which makes them stand out harshly.

[Anonymous No.4611659]

>>4610436
>>4610437
>>4610439
That's not the point of gesture anon, you're constructing. They look pretty good, but you're learning anatomy here, not flow and movement.

[Anonymous No.4611668]

>>4610683
Like other anon said, these are not child-like enough. Big ears, big noses, small eyes, all signs of ageing. You basically draw a bunch of lanky grandpas.

[Anonymous No.4611726]

>>4611015
Read the link in the sticky anon.

[Anonymous No.4612877]

>>4609981
that circle represents the side of the head, the way you drew, right the eye and eyebrows are half way floating in space.

[Anonymous No.4613306]

>>4610978
It's a 5 minute gesture drawing. Which admittedly is overkill, but it's not uncommon to start adding details once you've gotten the pose but still have time

[Anonymous No.4613309]

Is it even realistically possible for a 30 year old man with no talent to learn how to draw?