/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4607543]

Politics aside completely, why are political artists so bad at their craft typically?

[Anonymous No.4607550]

>>4607543
The medium weeds out artists at a certain level of skills.
For cartoons to be relatable, they must be simple and witty. If your art is too elaborate, you cannot make it as a cartoonist.

[Anonymous No.4607563]

>>4607543
comics are about telling a story or making a joke, so the art can be secondary and often is, independently of whether or not it's political

[Anonymous No.4607599]

>>4607543
webcomics are about frequently putting out jokes or interesting ideas for your audience, not to wow them with beauty

[Anonymous No.4607609]

>>4607543
I think you are misunderstanding what "their craft" is.

[Anonymous No.4607610]

>>4607599
>hehe so quirky and nerdy!
god I fucking hate xkcd

[Anonymous No.4607626]

I feel like this has really only been a thing recently, and that's just because the Internet gives EVERYONE a platform to show their work- whether or not you objectively deserve it or not.

The Library of Congress has some really cool old political cartoons you can take a look through (pic related comes from Herblock's History - Political Cartoons from the Crash to the Millennium). You had good artists from all over the political spectrum, and that was simply because you just were not going to get your work published unless you were good (or related to someone important, but that's another story). Not the case anymore.

Another thing to note is that political art isn't necessarily so much about the technical skill as it is about conveying a message that a wider audience can understand, normally a comedic one. Simpler styles tend to work best for this, especially when you have deadlines looming over your head. It's why political cartoons are so simple but political propaganda posters/films have more depth to them: they're all products at the end of the day, and different products have different timelines attached to them.

[Anonymous No.4607663]

> comparing paid work vs unpaid

so fucking autistic

[Anonymous No.4608822]

>>4607663
It's obviously flawed comparison but there's another question - why people with no skill are willing to publish anything? Don't they see how shitty their art is?

[Anonymous No.4608826]

>>4607543
pyw

[Anonymous No.4608827]

>>4608822
They do. They also don't give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.4608834]

>>4607543
putting politics first -- by definition -- means that you're willing to compromise your artistic integrity.

[Anonymous No.4609044]

>>4607543
Because most of them are legitimately retarded.
Especially the 50+ year olds who have been drawing for 30 years and still can only manage to draw shit like this.
While their low performance brain has hindered them from learning art it's also hindered them from understanding a single thing about politics.

[Anonymous No.4609263]

>>4607550
/thread

[Anonymous No.4609330]

>>4609044
That’s generally true for all boomers. They actually believe in the two party system so regardless of the comic artists political alignment, they always seem ignorant to the reality of things.

[Anonymous No.4609336]

>>4607550
Such a categorical statement. So why isn't this true for comics and manga?

[Anonymous No.4609338]

pooooooooop

[Anonymous No.4609349]

>>4607543
It's comics. You don't really need it to look great or follow whatever Scott Mccloud is telling you to do.

[Anonymous No.4609374]

[Anonymous No.4609378]

>>4607550
>If your art is too elaborate,
then it wont reproduce well in newsprint. whos to say what theyre capable of if theyre not drawing their job.

[Anonymous No.4611012]

>>4607543
Why spending your time on some kind of political message when you can just say fuck niggers?

[Anonymous No.4611134]

>>4607610
this

[Anonymous No.4611140]

>>4607543
because they are not artists

they could just as well make a video where they ramble about their opinions and upload it on social media

[Anonymous No.4611156]

>>4607610
I mostly like xkcd, but that one was very unfunny.

[Anonymous No.4611161]

>>4611012
what if I want to get fucked by niggers?

[Anonymous No.4611164]

Ben Garrison.

[Anonymous No.4611218]

>>4611164
I usually hate this kinda stuff but that's pretty neat

[Anonymous No.4611722]

>>4611164
You know who else likes drawing on canvas? Hitler

[Anonymous No.4612636]

>>4611164
Wow that's nice.

[Anonymous No.4612682]

>>4611164
Unironically great.

[Anonymous No.4612710]

>>4607543
Winsor Mccay did many political cartoons and they're among my favorite. Not because they're particularly clever or anything but the draftsmanship is excellent.

[Anonymous No.4612717]

>>4612710
But yeah, most modern political cartoons are absolute garbage. Usually one of two things
>ha ha orange man has funny hair
>ha ha democrat symbol is an ass
not to mention they're usually drawn in the ugly boomer cartoon style where everyone is fat/ugly and has a gigantic nose.

i mean, just look at this shit

[Anonymous No.4612721]

>>4607626
This, but also to add that propaganda posters are intended to be long term whereas political cartoons need to relate to a specific hot button issue and respond to it quickly to match the printed news and opinion articles.

[Anonymous No.4612724]

>>4609044
Boomer american political cartoons are so atrocious. It's literally all super standard neoliberal hogwash about staying in your lane or gas huffing republican schizo shit

[Anonymous No.4612727]

>>4609374
This is an example of something that I entirely disagree with but I can appreciate as being beautiful

[Anonymous No.4612732]

>>4612717
>ugly boomer cartoon style
kawaii anime political cartoons fucking when?

[Anonymous No.4612781]

>>4612717
I don't even know what this is trying to say. Political cartoons are either everything needlessly labelled or make no fucking sense.

[Anonymous No.4612919]

>>4612710
they're miles above the fucking boomer ragecomics that get published these days. idk when the last time i saw a political cartoon that wasn't just the equivalent of.
tYpInG LiKe tHIs
say what you will about stone toss, he only makes one comic but at least he has a formula

[Anonymous No.4613882]

>>4612732
not quite アニメ but i love hehesilly

[Anonymous No.4613935]

>>4611164
>rectangle palette
i was told those are pretty uncomfortable
>gamblin 1980 paints
interesting.
>>4611722
and pedrophils

[Anonymous No.4614065]

>>4607550
This isn't true. You only have to look at the artists who created the concept of editorial cartoons, or anything prior to the 60's really.

[Anonymous No.4614698]

>>4607543

They are way too direct.

[Anonymous No.4614732]

>>4607543
they don't give 2 shits about actual good artwork, they just wanna shove their shitty message/agend- i mean "biting commentary" down people's throats.

[Anonymous No.4615044]

>>4613882
They only ever made 2 good comics

[Anonymous No.4616050]

>>4609044
heh, he draws the orange man

[Anonymous No.4616065]

>>4615044
>they
I can tell why you think that

[Anonymous No.4616814]

>>4607610
:^)

[Anonymous No.4617923]

>>4607543

Its simplistic.
Lines and circles anon

People who act like it's somehow worse than any other style of are the same kind of people who buy a banana for a million dollars unironically

[Anonymous No.4617987]

>>4616814
>text text text

[Anonymous No.4617996]

>>4616814
no alt text, no likey

[Anonymous No.4619474]

>>4613882
I prefer Hijabholic myself

[Anonymous No.4620973]

>>4607543
I like how rockthrow draws his characters idk what you're talking about