/TRAD/ Traditional General

[Anonymous No.4600374]

Post paintings, drawings, pastels, watercolors, sculptures, or anything you've created in traditional media for critique

And remember: Art is a competition

[Anonymous No.4600969]

>>4600374
>Art is a competition
give me teh gold metal

[Anonymous No.4601217]

Reposting this oil painting I made because it went unnoticed in the previous thread, people were too concerned with thread personalities (or maybe the painting was just not interesting enough) and I really wanted to score some (you)'s.
Anyway, I made this oil painting, it's still drying which will probably take at least another week.
In the meantime I'll try to set up a still life with a little more to it.

[Anonymous No.4601262]

>>4601217
the thumbnail looks nice. its kinda simple up close.

[Anonymous No.4601317]

Should I just focus on form and lighting with pen and ink drawing? Every attempt at texture makes whole shit look like absolute garbage.

[Anonymous No.4601319]

>>4601317
Post something so I can see what your issue is here? I don't really know what to tell you from a quick vague description like that.

[Anonymous No.4601321]

>>4601217
That's a good block-im but I wish you'd rendered some of that out a lot more.

And yes next still life get some overlapping items in there to show depth.

[Anonymous No.4601324]

>>4601319
A distinct resemblance of a pear

[Anonymous No.4601330]

>>4601319
Also this. Both are first time trying pen and ink.

[Anonymous No.4601360]

>>4601217
>>4601321

I agree with this anon. Loosey goosey is nice but it can be a little too loose, which is a problem in this. Tighten it up just a little and it will be better instantly.

[Anonymous No.4601371]

>>4601324
>>4601330
how do i get started in this method of drawing with sketches, or putting values with strokes?

[Anonymous No.4601384]

>>4601360
>>4601321
>>4601262
Thanks guys, still struggling a bit with the workflow of getting paint on the board and getting it in all the right places.
I'm not going to change this painting now, but I'll try to work everything out a bit tighter in the next and maybe thin down my paint a bit more so it smoothes out easier.

[Anonymous No.4601394]

Brushpen on watercolor paper. Went loose because it's all going to be covered in paint later.

[Anonymous No.4601409]

>>4601371
I don't know since I'm just as lost as you are.
Normally I draw with graphite or coloring pencil.

[Anonymous No.4601421]

Does anyone have any advice on how I can improve painting skin tones with watercolours? I feel like my pieces are flat and muddy, when I could be doing better

(also please ignore how shit the clothes have been painted kek, I got bored and have up by that point)

[Anonymous No.4601431]

>>4601409
it looks v nice

[Anonymous No.4601452]

>>4601371
your different grades of pencils will make different value marks, but with a 2b to 6b you can get a light stroke with a light pressure and the darkest mark with reasonable pressure. you can practice this to a more permanent affect with a ballpoint pen (not a gel pen).
the rest is hatching, the more you go over a spot with a line the darker it will appear. the closer together you make these lines, the darker it will appear. depending on how fine the tip of your instrument will be how many times you can go over it before reaching the darkest value. if its done in the same direction too often you get what looks like a diamond pattern occurring instead of it looking like shading, so be careful change up direction more often.

[Anonymous No.4601464]

>>4601421
Use less red. Use reds that have been slightly mixed with blues for shadows. Also, nicely disciplined painting, I like the eyes.

[Anonymous No.4601539]

>>4601464
reposting this for crits

[Anonymous No.4601562]

>>4601452
thanks

[Anonymous No.4601568]

>>4601539
No thanks.

[Anonymous No.4601612]

>>4601568
problem?

[Anonymous No.4601726]

Gonna repost this because I'm not sure if I'll have time to do anything new today. And also why not.

[Anonymous No.4602110]

>>4601217
check out benjamin bjorklund for how he handles singular objects rendered somewhat simply

[Anonymous No.4602124]

>>4601726
theres a thing in painting where you rarely use a green straight out of the tube for grass because its too overpowering. i dare say youll want to try blending to get your own green with your oil pastels too. try an earthy yellow and go over it with the dark blue you used in the river there.

[Anonymous No.4602153]

>>4601217
You're thinning your paint down a lot. Not a problem I suppose if that's how you like it, but you're not giving yourself much room for manoeuvre. Like, you wouldn't have been able to take the painting much further in that sitting even if you'd wanted to, without it turning to mud.

[Anonymous No.4602160]

this quarantine can suck my dry hairy balls, also:
hi mom

[Anonymous No.4602163]

>>4602160

[Anonymous No.4602169]

>>4602160
>>4601539
looks pretty good desu, i just think the composition is weird. maybe don't draw to the edges or go bigger. nice volume work really.

[Anonymous No.4602173]

>>4602169
forgot image

[Anonymous No.4602175]

>>4602173


>>4601324
>>4601330
mind the volumetric characteristics of the pear. looks too round and perfect. also mind bouncing light from the table and what shadow does the pear project to the table

[Anonymous No.4602217]

>>4601409
Left one looks good, right one is a little wonky

[Anonymous No.4602326]

>>4602124
Really? I see folks use green all the time for grasses.

[Anonymous No.4602348]

>>4602153
Well I'm still in the progress of figuring out what works and I'm not sure how thick or thin the paint should be to work it properly.
But I didn't realize the paint would be too thin.

[Anonymous No.4602359]

>>4602326
What folks are these?

[Anonymous No.4602366]

>>4602348
To elaborate a bit, I'm coming from watercolor so maybe I am misunderstanding the properties of oil painting and indeed thinning it down too much.
Anyway, I'll keep this in mind when I start on my next study.

[Anonymous No.4602425]

>>4601539
Nice m8. Bottom right is nice and spots where there is light next to dark without the lines. Tree texture is nice too. The lines near the left edge of picture and lines like that elsewhere flatten your image tho, so avoid those, or actually use those to denote form. Keep going!

[Anonymous No.4602428]

>>4601217
I like ur painting m8
All I can say is keep doin it

[Anonymous No.4602463]

>>4602169
>>4602425
thanks! composition is hard, I tend to not put a lot of attention to it. Placement and all that is pretty much by chance at my current level. I struggle with planning things out, so it just ends up as it is. Good point about the lines flattening the image, I hadn't considered that. nice crits, very specific.

[Anonymous No.4602507]

>>4602463
Composition is of major importance in art, in landscape painting it is everything.

[Anonymous No.4602567]

>>4602359
Just in various youtube speed draws and such. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure could have added more yellows/browns to the mix but people definitely use green.

[Anonymous No.4602903]

>>4602567
Hmm.
There are schools of thought about using tubed green. Some get away with it, such as Wilard Metcalf, who used oxide of chromium. I have used it too when painting landscapes, but you can paint most any landscape with the addition of cad yellow. If you have cad lemon, you don't even need a green if you have a blue.
Metcalf used a convenience green to save time when painting outside and he was a genius. When you can compose a painting that well, mix paints that well, describe your subject that eloquently, then you can worry about using convenience colors.

[Anonymous No.4602946]

>>4602366
Painting with a lot of impasto like that is just experience. You'll figure out in time what works best for you. You'll get a different opinion from everyone you ask. This part of the journey is entirely personal, it's what you like. Don't let people get into your head with their version of 'right" - figure out your own. I agree that it looks a little too thinned out, but it's not my painting. Try another of the same subject, but work straight from the tube this time. See how it feels. Compare it to whatever you did this time. Then try another, with a mix of thinned/straight from the tube. That's how you explore and learn.
Overall, it's a good piece, for beginning, there are problem areas, but learning to not do that is part of the process. You've got a good feel for the form, values, and hues, but your transitions and edges need some work - but that's all experience. Working this loosely and with impasto takes time to master, you're on the way, but plan on having many more pieces ahead of you.

[Anonymous No.4602958]

>>4601421
Use more hues than crimson. The basic technique we were taught for basic "white" skin tones was washes of yellow ochre, then a crimson, then cobalt blue or paynes grey for the shadows.
Skin is reflective. It its influenced by a lot of things - ambient light, direct light, reflected light, and what's under it in the body. Part of learning to paint a face is understanding all that. The eye sockets will be cooler than the tip of the nose, or mouth.
Lay down a layer of yellow ochre, very thin. LET IT DRY COMPLETELY. Then do a warm crimson. Then add shadows, and you can use a blue, or throw in some greens and purples to make it more interesting, and tie in to the overall color composition. The whole "color zones of the face" is based on this - and adding colors can help create the illusion of depth, by using hue and temperature. You can also use contrasting colors for this, like yellow/purple, or red/greed, or red/blue. They impact the eye in certain ways and give the illusion of depth. Or can, if done properly.

[Anonymous No.4602962]

>>4601452
Also, don't think every drawing has to go from 100% black to white. You can determine your darkest dark, which will read as 'dark" to the eye, but is really a 70% grey. A lot of beginners think they have to get a solid black, like you would from a pen or india ink, when YOU determine the tonal range of the piece, and sometimes it's just part of the 100%-0% greyscale ramp. You can decide, starting out, 2b is going to be the darkest value in the drawing, and figure out your mid-tone from there. I've done light, delicate pieces where hb was the darkest value.

[Anonymous No.4602965]

>>4602124
I've used sap green right out of the tube. But for the most part, this is accurate. Greens are the easiest for me to mix, I only buy tubes of things like sap green or emerald for convenience, because you don't always want to spend all your time mixing, especially on deadline.

[Anonymous No.4602992]

>>4602903
Just to be clear, are you only referring to paints or just using greens in general when you say "tubed green"?

[Anonymous No.4602995]

>>4602992
he means buying green paint. You can buy green paint, a lot of late impressionist and post-impressionist color theory revolves around paint colors straight from the tube, and buying purples/oranges/greens, but depending on if you plan on having vibrant solid colors or a more realist palette you'll have to do some serious thinking and painting dedicated to finding out what colors work best with the way you draw.

[Anonymous No.4603001]

>>4601452
>>4602962
Thanks. Learned something love

[Anonymous No.4603009]

>>4602995
>a lot of late impressionist and post-impressionist color theory revolves around paint colors straight from the tube,
Which also had a lot more to do with tube paint becoming more of a thing in that era, because that's when it was invented.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/never-underestimate-the-power-of-a-paint-tube-36637764/

But it is true that Monet and others dove in with the new colors that were entering the market because of the tube. But it also had to do with them trying to capture light, not using academy hues and color compositions. Trying to mix as many pure colors as they were able to purchase would have been too time consuming, and the pigments didn't exist, or were extremely rare.

[Anonymous No.4603034]

>>4603009
you also end up with a lot of stylistic holdovers from the barbizon school in early impressionism where they were very concerned with maintaining the mixture of dappled/long brushstrokes, which was probably the accidental references to earlier artists that ended up making someone like Georges Seurat just painting nothing but dots.

But by the time art got to Neo-Impressionism with Seurat he was basically covering the canvas in nothing but from-the-tube colors.

Either way green has found it's way onto many color palettes, but the real differences between the artists is how vibrant or restrained colors react with the way that they draw.

Any artist without a thoughtful, personal palette is nothing. You can't use the Zorn palette if you don't draw like Zorn. You can't use Gauguin's absolutely stupid rainbow color palette if you don't draw like Gauguin.

[Anonymous No.4603064]

>>4603034
>You can't use the Zorn palette if you don't draw like Zorn.
Don't even get me started, there are Zorn autists here who will throw a fit over that statement. I expect they'll be along shortly, lol. The Zorn palette is interesting, I've tried it, but honestly, the old tried and true I learned has always worked for me, and I know enough to adjust for specific pieces. I know Jeff Watts pushes the Zorn palette, for learning purposes (which has led to him being parroted here), but not as the end all, be all of palettes. Even Zorn didn't use it all the time. I found using it really makes me focus on value, which is incredibly helpful. It's a real challenge. But building a palette of colors later, there's nothing wrong with it.
I've found the loudest Zorn disciples here are just seeing that Watts pushes it, but don't understand it's part of the process, not where you end up, but that doesn't stop them from trying to beat people over the head with it, to prove how 'superior" they are. "WHAT? You don't use the Zorn palette? Get on my level, pleb", yada yada.
Studying the palettes of the greats can teach you a lot, if they've been able to recreate them. it gives a really good insight into how the artists worked. And they all had their own take on it, and their palettes shifted over time. But here on /ic, we get people demanding only ONE palette, for your whole career. Because that happens. Ever. The colors I used in college were a completely different sensibility to what I choose now.

[Anonymous No.4603114]

>>4603064
It’s triple ironic because Zorn created the palette in response to his annoyance with realist palettes and their billions of earth tone colors. So he said “I already draw all these other artists under the fucking bridge, watch me have NO earth tones and mix them all myself”.

For /ic/ shitters who parrot the virtues of Sargent and Bouguereau to then take on Zorn’s palette as if it’s some staple of academic art, and not a reaction to the rigidity of it, I’m sure the irony is lost on them.

But the average /DRAW/friend who does nothing but digital studies of Sargent paintings already has lost the thread and doesn’t realize Sargent would despise their work, the man basically dreamed of being a Post-Impressionist his whole life, and yet we get Thread after thread of people thinking Sargents portraits of the wealthy were all he aspired to. The man was friends with like half the original impressionists, even if the other half despised him

[Anonymous No.4603266]

some greens i can make by blending blacks and ocres etc
i have a 48 set mungyo. they need cleaning...

[Anonymous No.4603276]

I made a second painting to go with this one and there’s a third in the works.

[Anonymous No.4603353]

>>4603266
Nice. I just got a set of Mungyos myself, the 72 set. Real excited to try them out soon. I didn't really know anyone else on here used oil pastels.

>>4602995
>>4603001
>>4603009
>>4603034
>>4603064
>>4603114
Pretty neat that such a simple question can bring up a nice little art history lesson. I only asked because I'm using oil pastels and not liquid paints.

[Anonymous No.4603404]

>>4603353
Sometimes a legit conversation can break out over art here. :D

[Anonymous No.4603405]

>>4603353
>anyone else on here
i was looking for something to block in quicker with colour pencils. using them got me curious about trying oil paint again.

[Anonymous No.4603420]

>>4602958
That's a lot of info buddy
Let's see if I can do it in practice...

[Anonymous No.4603426]

>>4603420
Take it a step at a time. Nobody expects you to get it all overnight, or in one painting. Do some quick studies to get a hang of it, before committing to a full piece.

[Anonymous No.4603543]

got a new paint color. im too excited about it. help.

[Anonymous No.4603577]

>>4601464
>>4602958
Thanks anons! I'll try out your advice today, I'll post my paintings if they manage to turn out somewhat presentable (or maybe if I fail miserably)

[Anonymous No.4603694]

>>4603114

Then why does Jeffrey Watts start his students out with the Zorn palette you faggot?

[Anonymous No.4603792]

some good informative posts in here

[Anonymous No.4603917]

>>4603064
I use the Zorn palette after using a brighter landscape palette (I'm the one using ox of chrom) and a still life palette. I know nothing of Watts advocating it, & I don't care about that. All I know is that it works for Caucasian skin tones and most other skin tones, so why reach for prismatic colours when it's not necessary?
Besides, it may have been Zorn that specified a very limited palette, but I use mine in terms more of Velazquez and will add in other colours if needed.

[Anonymous No.4604445]

all the talk of palettes has made me think of this post. Some good talk of rules for palettes, when to break them, deciding what colors to work with, etc.

http://www.powersofobservation.com/2009/08/sangram-majumdar-color-and-paint.html

[Anonymous No.4604467]

I used that portrait AI website from the other thread and got some pretty cool references I might do some oil paintings of. Any of you guys use AI websites for references?

[Anonymous No.4604471]

>>4604467
This one in particular is incredibly kino

[Anonymous No.4604483]

>>4604467
no but this is a great idea.
I did a couple of paintings of jpeg compressed images tho and it had a similar idea behind it

[Anonymous No.4604490]

>>4604483
I think that PortraitAI website is really good for it, it's probably the best one I've seen to get figure painting references so far. I'd been using other ones but was never impressed with what I got, but whatever the particular ruleset is for that one is really good. I have about 24 images that would be really good for painting from it.

[Anonymous No.4604491]

>>4604483
even when you use it as intended and do portraits of faces it's pretty good

[Anonymous No.4604576]

>>4604467
To be honest I only use real life for reference when I'm painting.
It feels a bit cheap to work from photos when I already spend a lot on paints and tools.

[Anonymous No.4604602]

>>4604576
id rather get some painting done than none.

[Anonymous No.4604612]

>>4604576
>To be honest I only use real life for reference
I've reached a point where I've sort of run out of things to paint in suburbia. There's the park, there's the beach (those are useless in winter), but I have no models, and painting still lifes all day gets very boring. I could always just crank out self portraits, but I think it's good to be able to have a hefty amount of reference images when all else fails or gets tiring. At some point you've walked around the park and painted every tree, and I just don't have it in me to drive more than 15 minutes to go somewhere to paint. Add on top of that it's nothing but suburban houses and private property everywhere around me and it's not like I can just walk into people's backyards and start painting

[Anonymous No.4604629]

Started on the hands

[Anonymous No.4604630]

>>4604612
Hire a nude model or get a muse

[Anonymous No.4604642]

>>4604602
>>4604612
No worries, it's just that I prefer painting from life. Doesn't mean everyone should.

[Anonymous No.4604648]

>>4604630
with what money

[Anonymous No.4604668]

>>4604648
Tell her you'll suck her dick as payment.

As for the muse, muses are free just let them live with you on the condition you get to draw them all the time. Also tell her you'll suck her dick as payment.

[Anonymous No.4604672]

>>4604668
>As for the muse, muses are free just let them live with you on the condition you get to draw them all the time.
im broke and live with my parents and not an incel

[Anonymous No.4604677]

Art.

[Anonymous No.4604678]

>>4604672
>not an incel
Then you shouldn't have a problem finding a muse down the road.

[Anonymous No.4604703]

>>4604678
I just hate women... especially white women. I hate being around naked white/Asian women, and there's like three black girls in this town and I've painted all three of them nude already.

[Anonymous No.4604714]

>>4604703
Then get a man to paint and suck his dick as payment

[Anonymous No.4604721]

>>4604703
Kino. Black women are great cause they're always bitchy, so even when they're not on their period they are bitchy, so you always get the same person. Consistency is ideal for a model. White girls have their period and they turn into Satan.

>I don't like this pose
>You're being a fucking ass hole
>I feel fat
>I don't want to pose today I feel ugly
>You just want to see me naked

Black girls are like "Paint my tits you pussy"

[Anonymous No.4604758]

>>4604703
Why not paint them again?
Honestly the problems you serve us seem like an excuse.

[Anonymous No.4604769]

>>4604758
cause they don't want to do it anymore/have jobs. Despite what /ic/ tells you women have lives outside of having sex and being naked, and have bills/cars/apartments/lives to take care of, and sometimes they'd rather spend time on things other than helping some rando dude make paintings for free

[Anonymous No.4604771]

>>4604769
also it's not like I'm their significant other, I'm just some dude. If we were dating obviously we'd spend enough time together to end up with a lot of art but I can't afford to have a girlfriend right now.

[Anonymous No.4604773]

>>4604769
>>4604771
also I'm sure you degenerates will say "YOU KNOW YOU CAN HAVE SEX WITH A GIRL WITHOUT DATING HER RIGHT!?!" to which I say enjoy your discord kittens I'd rather not invite that bullshit into my life. Keep gaslighting yourself into thinking it's okay to have casual sex with strangers.

[Anonymous No.4604850]

>>4604773
>I'd rather not invite bullshit into my life
yeah I'm sure you already have plenty of that

[Anonymous No.4605011]

>>4604769
If money is a problem, you might look into a part-time job that can give you a small income to pay for models or maybe even life figure drawing session. I've been to there and it's a lot of fun and also gives you opportunity to talk with other artists and get your name around a bit, which helps if you want to sell work.

[Anonymous No.4605082]

>>4604467
Look shit, but better than the paintings made from them.

[Anonymous No.4605087]

>>4604703
It sure shows in the end product.

[Anonymous No.4605148]

>>4603276
what a fucking waste of paint lol

[Anonymous No.4605239]

>>4603276
does it ever dry?

[Anonymous No.4605295]

>>4605239
They do dry, it takes a couple months though.
>>4605148
Thanks for your consideration.

[Anonymous No.4605317]

Failed to get the right tone and colors with the first wash again. (and failed everything else)

[Anonymous No.4605491]

>>4603694
Because, Zorn forces you to really examine value. I stated as such. It's a serious fucking challenge, and it's hard to master - and it's a seriously good learning tool, that Watts uses. But he doesn't end with Zorn, with his classes. It's one step in the longer journey.

I knew one of you Zorn disciples would pop up - any mention of it that isn't all roses and parades, here you are being snotty about it, when you don't even understand where in Watt's teaching process it sits. I never once stated it's bad to learn. I said it teaches you a lot. But that didn't matter, because...reasons?

[Anonymous No.4605497]

>>4604612
Go find an empty warehouse or house, get permission, paint an interior, with indirect light.
But i feel you. I'm an hour away from dramatic landscapes, but I have a hard time getting a full day or two to go do plein air - so I invested in a DSLR as a stop-gap. I have a bunch of shots from last year I want to work through.

[Anonymous No.4605501]

>>4604773
Could you take this /pol incel ranting back there? This is a thread about painting, not your personal issues.

[Anonymous No.4605507]

>>4605317
Do lighter washes to work out your composition and such. You're rushing. Watercolor needs patience. Maybe spend some time painting swatches to get a feel for what to do, before going into a study. Cover a few sheets of paper with some layers and get a better feel how to build hues and values.

[Anonymous No.4605785]

zorn cult? zorn cult.

[Anonymous No.4606474]

>>4604677
Im expecting critique pls

[Anonymous No.4606477]

>>4605507
Thanks, I'll try it. Watercolor indeed needs patience. But on the contrary it also needs really quick thinking and reaction when painting to control your wetness. It is really confusing sometimes.

[Anonymous No.4606489]

>>4606474
its a strange banana but thats ok everyone has their own interpretation.

[Anonymous No.4606493]

>>4606489
"Floating Banana Person" thanks! Lol

[Anonymous No.4607012]

so oil painting book im reading says to do exercises with cutouts to see four tones in a pic. then it starts a lesson with applying raw umber (i only have burnt) and wiping it away to achieve the lights. it warned to test it on an area because it might not lift to white, which mine didnt but i went ahead anyway. made a mess of it. mixing four tones of paint for the cutouts was easier to get right than this. probably shouldve gone for a still life too.

[Anonymous No.4607864]

>>4604629
Finished the jazz hands

[Anonymous No.4607870]

Working on this. Marker under-drawing for painting.

[Anonymous No.4608370]

Stopped trying "being bold with colors" and just focused on values this time. Colors are really off though. And resemblance is hard.

[Anonymous No.4608945]

>>4608370
In watercolors try to use more weird colors, specially blues, purples and green washes to create shadows...

[Anonymous No.4609069]

Rate

[Anonymous No.4609070]

[Anonymous No.4609084]

>>4609069
It's no longer impressionistic if you can't even tell what is happening or what is being depicted.
There are many ways to express depth (big-small, detailed-blurry, high contrast-low contrast, dark-bright) use at least some of them.

[Anonymous No.4609485]

Why are there so many watercolors of birds and other animals but hardly any human figure watercolors? Is there something bad about the medium for the human anatomy?

[Anonymous No.4609535]

>>4609485
Some animals do lend themselves for watercolor, especially a cute colorful bird.
But I don't know why this is the case. Though if you care, there is a book about painting the figure in watercolor and it's quite good.

[Anonymous No.4609550]

Cramped sketch. So used to the 18x25". This has a kind of Chuck Jones scrawl to it but I'm disappointed with the left hand side so it may not be painted.

[Anonymous No.4609578]

First run at drawing and painting from a location sketch. I thought it offered some opportunities for water effects, architecture and mood but that's unsettled atm. Foliage can be the hardest thing to decide

[Anonymous No.4609580]

Saturation is likely different. My late uncle used to plant sunflowers so it's a memorial picture

[Anonymous No.4609884]

>>4608370
Work on your drawing skills

[Anonymous No.4610902]

>>4609550
I like it, though I agree the left hand side is a bit cluttered but you could simplify that and still have a decent sketch.

[Anonymous No.4611190]

acrylic pouring is the height of art of today

[Anonymous No.4611201]

>>4605491

>EXPLICITLY says "start"

Learn to read, cunt

[Anonymous No.4611339]

>>4605491
Four colour palette goes back to Apelles in Ancient Greece. It's the the original master palette, you nonce.
https://rmindrup.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-apelles-palette.html

[Anonymous No.4611343]

>>4611339
Here the watercolour site references it too, andalso goes on to discuss how ultramarine blue and burnt sienna are excellent starting points, as I've suggested before in these threads.
https://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/palette4b.html

[Anonymous No.4611396]

if zorn is so great howcome nobody uses it for acrylic pouring?

[Anonymous No.4611406]

>>4611190
>>4611396
Go pour some acrylics down your throat, wanker.

[Anonymous No.4611662]

>>4600374
Any sculptfags here?

I want to start sculpting, the goal being 1/6 statues that i can paint. What is the best clay to do that? Plasticine or Polymer? Plasticine looks like it's used more for practicing/doing maquettes because it will always stay somewhat soft. So to build small statues i should use Polymer?

Also, what the fuck is this guy doing at 4:44?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CbHWD1o2oE [Embed]

[Anonymous No.4611691]

>>4611396
now we're asking the tough questions

[Anonymous No.4611743]

>>4611691
Double UFO's, AND a pair of Y fronts.
Epic.

[Anonymous No.4611747]

>>4611743
give money

[Anonymous No.4611858]

>>4611747
Begone Cumfarti

[Anonymous No.4611903]

I'm current obsessed with nibs and ink.

[Anonymous No.4612039]

Whelp, this thread is over. See you guys in the next one.

[Anonymous No.4612043]

>>4611339
Completely different thing, and irrelevant to the points I was making - but is just another example of the pissy Zorn disciples showing up, like I predicted.

Be less angry about something that's a personal choice.

[Anonymous No.4612067]

Just messing around with strokes today. Wasn't really in the mood to draw but felt like I should force myself to do so.

[Anonymous No.4612114]

beg attempt at sparrow

[Anonymous No.4612160]

>>4608370
Based anime Picard

[Anonymous No.4612207]

>>4612043
Go back to splattering your magenta all over everything, and thinking it looks really rad.

[Anonymous No.4612246]

>>4612067
I helps you with your other piece, and in breaking down your drawings into more readable shapes.

This one is a big step up - good stuff! I think the bottom half could benefit from being broken up more. You can do this by making each hill of the dunegrass a different value.

[Anonymous No.4612331]

I painted the meme picture

[Anonymous No.4612344]

>>4612246
Yeah I realised kinda late that the closest two hills were both going in basically the same direction. I tried to use different shades for each - lighter yellows and blues in the background, darker with some actual greens in the foreground. I guess it just wasn't enough contrast.

[Anonymous No.4612380]

tryna figue out how to use watercolor. took the refs from last ref thread

[Anonymous No.4612383]

>>4612380
it's cool stylistically, not sure you really captured the femininity of the models but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I thought of using the reference on the right for a painting at some point but her vaginus is in it and I just have a hard time feeling good about painting a vagina

[Anonymous No.4612390]

>>4612383
thx. you could lose the vaginer into the shadow with a soft edge. no need to go all detailed

[Anonymous No.4612396]

>>4601539
The bottom part is good, the upper part looks like a filler

[Anonymous No.4612397]

>>4612390
it's just so dirty, i'm a bit of a prude about that stuff. If the average art student had my observational painting skills I'm sure they'd be painting gigantic flappy vaginas in detail for their thesis, but that's not really my movement. I'll stick to tits and faces.

[Anonymous No.4612494]

[Anonymous No.4612498]

>>4612494

[Anonymous No.4612499]

>>4612498

[Anonymous No.4612501]

>>4612499

[Anonymous No.4612518]

>>4612331
buy a bigger brush

[Anonymous No.4612590]

>>4612518
you should know better than to reply to cumfarti

[Anonymous No.4612677]

>>4612499

[Anonymous No.4612988]

If there somebody proficient in watercolor in the thread, please tell my, why does ultramarine behaves like this(picrelated)???
It does not mixing with any other paint, always floating up like in picture. I've tried three different brands already, all behave the same. Only ultramarine(PB29) does that thing, I didn't notice any problem with mixing of any other pigments. And the most baffling thing - only ultramarine from tubes behaves like this, I have the very same paint in pans - and it mixing properly! Googling does not brings up anything, it does not seem like there are anybody having problems with ultramarine. It is really driving me crazy! I am already starting thinking about some global conspiracy since everybody advises ultramarine as a one of the starting colors for beginners. Would you normally advise a color that will definitively fail all your mixes?

[Anonymous No.4613417]

>>4612397
Anon, I've been to figure drawing classes and I always omit the vagina. Once you realize you don't have to draw or paint everything you see, you can enjoy the process more, though it does help if the model has a thick bush. I feel like by drawing out genitals the painting immediately gets a whole different vibe compared to a nude drawing where the genitals are conveniently hidden.
I love life figure drawing though, it's really quite different than drawing from photos.

[Anonymous No.4613421]

>>4612380
How big are these paintings?
The look quite nice, maybe a bit overworked in some places but still you did a good job.

[Anonymous No.4613492]

Charcoal pencil drawing from the other night

[Anonymous No.4613525]

>>4612344
use reference dude.

[Anonymous No.4613528]

>>4612988
ultramarine, more like, ultra-inner-tube-rust

[Anonymous No.4613590]

>>4612380
Very nice.

I'm drawing furries again because I feel like it and I haven't hardly drawn them in years.

[Anonymous No.4613640]

>>4612590
I did it too, and I also know better.

[Anonymous No.4613649]

>>4612988
I have ultramarine from Winsor & Newton, & Daniel Smith, and never have any problems. Been using them for many years, and the tubes are a mix of new and very, very old...like decades old bought off of ebay,
What brands are these?

[Anonymous No.4613674]

I know this is not typical /trad/ material but I need some comments from people who have never see this picture before.
This is an installation made from handmade paper, thread, and pins. It's about 5.5 feet high, 1 foot wide, and juts out 5 feet from the wall.
Basically, I'm wondering....does this make sense as a standalone image? Should I include a detail image when including this work in a portfolio for an application? What is confusing about this piece?
I ask these questions because I posted this before on Reddit and it was met with general confusion. pls help

[Anonymous No.4613962]

>>4613649
This one is Daniel Smith. I've also tried W&N and Shinhan, all give the same result.

[Anonymous No.4613976]

I tried oil pastels. I have a set of 12 colors, bright as a rainbow, so don't be surprised at the color scheme. I did the best i could with these acid colors.

[Anonymous No.4613994]

So how similar to an oil painting can you get with oil pastels?

[Anonymous No.4614000]

>>4613994
Not much.

[Anonymous No.4614003]

>>4613674
It's quite beautiful. I love how the paper resembles birds.
The only thing I'm confused about is how the threads interact with the paper. Is every thread piercing them?

[Anonymous No.4614005]

>>4612380
the one on the left is so much better

[Anonymous No.4614064]

>>4613525
I don't always like to use references, specifically when, like with this piece, I'm just not totally in the mood.

>>4613976
Pretty neat anon. Nice to see others using oil pastels. I recently got a set of fluorescent colors myself that I need to test out.

>>4613994
They're pretty different mediums. They just have an oil based binder

[Anonymous No.4614074]

>>4613962
Then maybe there is another variable at work. Your paper, the water....

[Anonymous No.4614091]

>>4601217
I like this. Did you use natural light? How did you match the light on your subject to your palette ? I've been copying photographs but am wanting to paint from life . I work at night so I'm trying to figure out my lighting situation.

[Anonymous No.4614102]

>>4613421
they're about 20 cm/ 8" in height. just small experiments to get a handle on the medium. my background is oil painting so i'm still getting used to not being able to rework areas that much lol
>>4614005
yeah i think i got better colors with the one on the left

[Anonymous No.4614679]

>>4614091
I painted this when the sun was down which I prefer for still lifes, I avoided natural light so the light would be consistent throughout the entire painting session, I don't have a lot of experience with oil painting yet so I try to avoid things that could complicate the process like a light source that changes in color and direction.
I set it up with one light so the direction and light/dark areas become easier to place.
As for mixing the color, it was trial and error, I haven't figured out a foolproof way to match color yet other and trying and squinting all the time.

[Anonymous No.4614682]

>>4614091
Not him but I've found it's better to paint at night because you get the same light through all the painting process. During the day light varies too much unless you're quick.

[Anonymous No.4614690]

>>4613674
If you include this in your portfolio you could use an image or two of it and explain your idea behind it and how it works, materials used, size, and so

Art portfolios for this kind of thing -even trad paintings nowadays- shouldn't just be a powerpaint with the best pictures. You should show your project, not only your pieces/objects

[Anonymous No.4615243]

little cat watercolor

[Anonymous No.4615246]

>>4615243
This is really cute and the vibe is pleasant, please don't stop doing these watercolors, anon~

[Anonymous No.4615280]

>>4612988
is that mixed with another color?

looks like granulation, which is something that happens depending on the pigment. https://www.parkablogs.com/picture/granulating-blue-watercolour

[Anonymous No.4615282]

>>4615280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq5Zbja0FVs

[Anonymous No.4615307]

[Anonymous No.4615336]

>>4614003
Thank you! and yes, that's exactly what's happening.

>>4614690
Yeah you're so right. There's a place in the application where you can give more details on how the piece was made, etc. I'll go into detail about the process and include this pic probably

[Anonymous No.4615434]

>>4611662
If you want something permanent, you can bake polymer clay. You can't bake plasticine.

Also the guy is making a cast of the sculpture.

[Anonymous No.4615457]

>>4603543
What's the color? Is it warm or cool?

[Anonymous No.4615509]

>>4615457
>>4603543

Also you're not the only one. I bought some flake white replacement from gamblin's and a few of their blacks (small tubes to test out).

[Anonymous No.4615680]

>>4615457
quinacridone magenta. 150ml, because big tubes are more exciting too.

[Anonymous No.4615697]

This has probably already been asked a million times, but what are the differences between oil and acrylic paints, other than their drying time. Are there things that are only possible to do with oil and not with acrylic? And lastly, do the qualities of oil paint make up for its higher prices?

[Anonymous No.4615731]

>>4615697
oil paint is more expensive because it allows more pigment per binder ratio.
mostly what can be done in one can be done in the other. ive seen pro artists show off their work theyve done in gouache, acrylic and oil, and youd be hard to tell which was which.

[Anonymous No.4616009]

>>4615697
oil requires more stuff to achieve thin layers. you can't just use water to dilute it. also you need at least a dedicated storage place for your medium (the shit you use to water it down with) since it can catch fire.

[Anonymous No.4616061]

>>4615697
Blending with acrylics its a chore
Mixing with acrylics also suck,
Iin my experience acrylics work best as a mix media medium woth watercolor and ink rather than by itself

Acrylics by themselves will only be really good if you want to achieve a really graphic style, with colors straight out of the tube

[Anonymous No.4616078]

>>4616009
>since it can catch fire.
its really hard to say much about the technical aspects as there's usually a medium somewhere that tackles the issue.

[Anonymous No.4616357]

Recent plein air study, oil on board

[Anonymous No.4616439]

>>4616357
Work on your values more, don’t be so concerned with getting the hue of what you’re looking at. Values>>>>>everything else

[Anonymous No.4616478]

>>4616439
What do you mean by that? Do you think i should ve pushed the darks more? The lights in the trees?

[Anonymous No.4616494]

>>4616478
not that guy but I think the piece would read a lot better if you painted in the sky everywhere instead of just right around the trees. Value-wise the house blends in a bit too much with the trees, but that red roof and then the bright spot of white right beneath it is a really nice moment in this painting.

[Anonymous No.4616497]

Picking away at this still life

[Anonymous No.4616518]

>>4616478
You're too worried about "Trees are green, so I need to mix green for the trees". Even the shadows on the tree are green. Leave that for studio work. You'll work much faster if you think of the colors on your palette as shades of grey to be mixed to make values, instead of colors to be mixed to make accurate colors. Think of it like you have cool greys and warm greys instead of cool colors and warm colors.

[Anonymous No.4616529]

painted boobs

[Anonymous No.4616531]

>>4616518
anon disregard this 'advice'
it's terrible

[Anonymous No.4616540]

>>4616531
all I have to do to prove my point is make that painting greyscale and it all blends together. He got the colors accurate but not the values. Go back to /beg/ this is simple advice and you probably don't even paint

[Anonymous No.4616572]

>>4616497
>1748x2136
No one opening that shit, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.4616575]

>>4616497
>canvas texture

[Anonymous No.4616579]

>>4616009

you obviously have no idea what you're talking about

>>4615697

The difference is between the binder of the pigment. In acrylics it's a acrylic polymer emulsion, a plastic. You can use plain old water as a medium to get the paint to flow better with them. The moisture evaporates and leaves the paint as a film. In oil paints, it's linseed oil, and as you might know, oil and water don't mix, hence you can not use water as a medium, instead you can use turps, OMS or linseed oil. (Most artist use a mix of these, depending on what layer they are on,, and there are a wide range of mediums for use with oil with different characteristics.) Oil paints don't exactly dry through evaporation/exposure to air, but rather through a chemical process. They dry slowly which allows you more time to work before the paint is dry. Acrylics dry in the blink of an eye. In general oil paints are more transparent than acrylics, and because of how the light works through all the layers of an oil painting, tend to give you very rich colours. IMO acrylics never lose their plastic-y properties. Anyway, there's a ton of information to find on paints, do some research if you want to know more.

[Anonymous No.4616587]

>>4615680
Good color. Andrew Tischler uses it in his paintings.

[Anonymous No.4616615]

>>4616572
I thought 2k pixels on the longest side was fine

[Anonymous No.4616629]

>>4616615
try to keep longest side below 1.5k

[Anonymous No.4616634]

>>4616540
>I have never grayscaled a painting in my life
It seems you're honest on your intentions, but you've probably misunderstood some advice you found online big time

[Anonymous No.4616641]

>>4601217
looks pretty solid my nigga

[Anonymous No.4616643]

>>4616579
One thing I've noticed about acrylics is that they change a lot after they dry, so I have to mix colors already knowing the result won't look like my mixture (it'll probably be redder/yellower). Does the same happen with oils?

[Anonymous No.4616647]

>>4616629
bet mb

[Anonymous No.4616715]

>>4616643

Not really, in my experience. It can be that solid masses of a dark colour get a little sunken in after they dried (bit lighter, hard to describe but you will know it when you see it) but you can fix that with oiling them out (=applying just a tiny bit of oil to it)

[Anonymous No.4616731]

>>4616715
Thank you. I will probably switch to oils soon, as acrylics changing get me really pissed off.

[Anonymous No.4616744]

>>4616731

Acrylics fucking suck, I started out with them too because the idea of oils was too daunting to me but it's really no big deal when you follow the basic principles of oil painting. Oils are much nicer to work with.in every regard.

[Anonymous No.4616760]

>>4616529

Begone cumfarti

[Anonymous No.4616768]

>>4616497

Pretty neat, values seem spot on. I do think it could benefit from a somewhat detailed focal point however.

[Anonymous No.4616806]

>>4616529
Do you fap to your own work?

[Anonymous No.4616896]

>>4616806
I’ve tried, I don’t masturbate much. It makes me tired

[Anonymous No.4617134]

>>4616529
Really like this one. Hope it's finished.

[Anonymous No.4617159]

>>4617134
it is

[Anonymous No.4617252]

Brian are you still a Gamsol guy?

[Anonymous No.4617394]

>>4617159
Wait, are you the guy that got his cousin to post nude for him? If so you've really improved in the last year.

[Anonymous No.4617421]

what's the deal with drafting tables? I started drawabox a couple weeks ago and have been using a clipboard to draw at an angle but I keep having to shift around and overall I suspect a drafting table would be a lot cozier, but idk what to even look for. all the ones at brick and mortar places around me go 35 degrees max which seems like shit, meanwhile there are a lot of antique ones on craigslist that go 90 even and I prefer to draw at angles close to this. am i making a goof if i buy one of these old tables off CL?

[Anonymous No.4617425]

>>4617421

As a general rule. Furniture is the one thing that gets worse with time, rather than better. Old Furniture is built to last. New Furniture is built to be disposable.

So, if you find a quality old drafting table in good condition, buy it.

[Anonymous No.4617762]

>>4616478
i think theyre talking about tonal composition. i dont know if you can do much about that doing plein air.
>>4616643
i think some brands of acrylics color shift more than others. some artists will purposely let a patch of their mix dry on the palette so they can see the dry colour. varnishing generally brings colours back.
>>4617421
tabletop easel?

[Anonymous No.4618853]

>>4617252
I just use turpentine

[Anonymous No.4619069]

Do you like this bros

[Anonymous No.4619301]

Asian girls are fun to paint

[Anonymous No.4619323]

>>4600374
>And remember: Art is a competition
Draw for more than two years dimitry and then say that sentence without laughing. Also post the floating loomis heads

[Anonymous No.4620117]

anyone have familiarity with marie's oil paint? theyre a paint from (c)ghina. i ordered a lemon yellow 170ml that arrived today, it doesnt say which pigment it contains, but as far as i can tell its comparable to other acceptable lemon yellow's.
compared to dollar store shit id say it should be good for learning with.

[Anonymous No.4620828]

Good oil painting guides/tutorials?

[Anonymous No.4621014]

>>4619301
Working on a larger painting

[Anonymous No.4621073]

[Anonymous No.4621432]

>>4621014

[Anonymous No.4621456]

>>4620828
Someone uploaded Bauman's videos on the video course thread. Check the Sargent study.

Alternatively, Huston has a course on reduced palette too.

[Anonymous No.4621783]

>>4621432
finished it

[Anonymous No.4621795]

>>4621783
Such a good face, but the pose is very stiff

[Anonymous No.4621834]

>>4621795
I had to change a lot from the reference to make it fit as a painting, the og picture had no hands, and the arms in a different position, so I'm not surprised it's a bit stiff. Limitations of what I'm capable of doing when deviating from reference

[Anonymous No.4621891]

>>4621834
You've ruined it mate.
Fucking state.

[Anonymous No.4622250]

i really hate taking a million years to think "how do i get a gray from this color"

[Anonymous No.4622560]

>>4621834
Honestly, it's a bit of an awkward pose to begin with.

[Anonymous No.4622794]

>>4621783
The boobs are extremely rendered and 3 dimensional while everything else looks like an afterthought

[Anonymous No.4622802]

>>4621783
>>4622794
do you know who youre talking to

[Anonymous No.4622835]

I can't stop being apprehensive about getting back into art because I'm so ashamed of how much time I waste on just shitting on myself. It's like ever since I came here, I have some /ic/ crab in my head telling me that it's all irredeemable and that I'm always going to be terrible.

I still have oils. I know the basics of oil paint maintenance. I can draw just ok enough with references, I have confident strokes. I can mix colors fine. I know to avoid symbol drawing and actually go for further detail. Still need to improve perspective and structure/anatomy, but that can all be addressed when I'm working on something. But I have a basic understanding whenever I get back into practice instead of where I am right now. I have access to warm primaries and cool primaries.

I'm a huge wreck. I haven't finished an oil painting in six years. But I really want to hit it up again. Maybe I should do some value studies and paint from reference, paint references upside down to get the gist of shape, etc..

What exercises would you suggest, /ic/?

[Anonymous No.4622928]

>>4621073

Coming along nicely! I really like the right hand (our left).

[Anonymous No.4622964]

>>4611662
Sculpting with water based clay here. It's the most kino type of sculpting after marble and maybe wood, but it's also hard af. I wish there was a board for sculptors somewhere.
My grandma visited us yesterday, and gave me some solid advice on a piece I'm working on. It's a bit depressing to know that I'll never reach her level, but it's also nice to get feedback from a pro.

I think the lad in your vid is applying wax before creating the mold, but I'm not sure why the wax is needed.

[Anonymous No.4624106]

I hate how plastic looking its turned out.

[Anonymous No.4624311]

>>4624106
He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...
...a Dark Knight...
*cut to credits*

[Anonymous No.4624332]

>>4604629
God that’s good. So rich and velvety. Gorgeous work.
Here’s one I’m starting on, first layer acrylic.

[Anonymous No.4624669]

>>4620828
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6BnPtfiM-R1Wf3B128Riyw malcom dewey

and unrelated, a water colour artist i like to watch now and then
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqmYSA4NfGki034mDvkg_9g

[Anonymous No.4625604]

>>4619069
I like it, I love the vibes it gives off.

[Anonymous No.4625910]

>>4624106
I think it's mostly because of the eye, with the big highlight. Otherwise it looks nice. Do you stretch your paper beforehand? I've only done gouache now for some time because I still haven't taken the time to get the right tape and a board to properly stretch my watercolor paper.

[Anonymous No.4625990]

>>4624106

One issue is, is that its pretty much pillowshaded. Other issue is that it lacks texture, all the material looks the same, the branch is the same smooth texture as the bird. Imply its feathers here and there.

[Anonymous No.4626013]

>>4625910
no, but i will look into this streching thing, thanks
>>4625990
i dont know the right technic for painting feaders :(

[Anonymous No.4626018]

>>4626013
sorry, i am a spell-let, feathers*

[Anonymous No.4626052]

Did a mountain/lake landscape for today. How'd I do?

[Anonymous No.4626076]

>>4626013

It's not hard, take a few good ref pictures to help you along. Implying them in crucial places will be more than enough. I'm too tired from my 11+ work shift and about to head to bed but I will see and try to help you along a little tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4626080]

>>4626052

Not any better than your previous attempts, unfortunately

[Anonymous No.4626194]

>>4616531
shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about
cool colors and warm colors are pivotal to painting
understanding chromatic blacks and greys are pivotal to painting
tree shadows aren't inherently green, they're cool, meaning there's blue

[Anonymous No.4626310]

>>4601217
your values are really nice for how simple the piece is!

[Anonymous No.4626318]

I'm trying to paint some non-political art of what's going on, more like journalism than taking a particular stance on things. It's hard finding pictures of the protests that aren't propaganda

[Anonymous No.4626359]

>>4626080
Really? I felt like the blending and colors came out a bit better than usual. Though I will admit the phone post kinda fucks up some of those colors.

[Anonymous No.4626399]

>>4626076
thank you in advance, have a good rest

[Anonymous No.4626501]

>>4604677
it changed mi life

[Anonymous No.4627170]

>>4626052
the mountains are nice. but then youve used the same green tone in the foreground too. and wouldnt the water be reflecting the trees?
keep going. hopefully youll be aiming to one day impress us and that will make you more observant to the details, improving you overall.

[Anonymous No.4627213]

>>4627170
The darker greens were parts that were in shadow, though I suppose I could have conveyed that a little better. As for the lake, there wasn't really any discernible reflections in the water, save for maybe a little bit in that darker blue area to the left. But the hint of blue-green gets lost in the posted photo.

[Anonymous No.4627595]

>>4622928
Thanks man, the hand was a first, so I had a bit of trouble, thanks!!

>>4624332
Thanks! Coming along nicely! Will only be with acrylics or you gonna use oils or other mediums? Acrylics and colored pencils work really great!
I used a bunch of materials in this one, but acrylics and pencils mainly and I think this approach would look cool in your piece!

[Anonymous No.4627596]

Still working on it

[Anonymous No.4627906]

>>4627595
Wait, yours isn't oil? Holy shit, those tones are so rich, I never would have believed acrylic. Damn, man. Got any art socials to follow?
I'm gonna do a very thin layer of transparent white oil over the face to get that sickly, ghostly look. Otherwise, going all acrylic, just in several transparent layers for that glow. Small, thick blobs of half-mixed (swirled) paint all over the background. I've never had any luck with pencils-- I've got some prismacolor, but toddler skill level with them. Do you use gamsol and a brush to blend yours, or just go straight in?

[Anonymous No.4627908]

>>4627596
Finish, anon! I want to see the end result!

[Anonymous No.4627994]

>>4604471
Is... is that...?

[Anonymous No.4628004]

>>4616497
I love this just as is. Saved as inspo.

[Anonymous No.4628763]

>>4627906
Im the same with pencils, I just use them cross hatch or to pull a bit of chroma (in this case I only used white, black, green and burnt sienna pencil colors) for blending I just use a bunch of water, but I do use acrylic retarder, it makes your paint more flowy. Try to make that ghostly feel with acrylics also, a lot of white and a dab of blue just to be more ethereal, put a lot of water, and dab with napkins, repeat until you are satisfied. You can also use watercolors for this effect, and will blend nicely with acrylics (imagine as a colored layer)

If you go with oils, remember that you cant paint over oils with acrylics.

[Anonymous No.4628768]

>>4627908
I still have >>4621073 to finish,
and this one to finish, it will be a mix of digital drawing and acrylic painting

[Anonymous No.4628775]

>>4628763
>>4627906

sorry, forgot about my socials:

Insta pages:
instagram.com/fossilmorph for illustration work
instagram.com/cordeiro_2020 for paintings

[Anonymous No.4630070]

Help me out

[Anonymous No.4630092]

>>4616497
fuck man i asked for your insta one time but didn't check it out, shill it again?

[Anonymous No.4630259]

>>4630070
Really cool, but with that strong shadow shouldnt it also cast it to the ground? I think you should push up the chroma in the terminal line maybe a bit more of orange?

Also maybe giving a bit more of blue in the grey ground would also work I guess...

[Anonymous No.4630434]

>>4628775
>instagram.com/cordeiro_2020
tens uma loja no brasil é?

[Anonymous No.4630614]

I tried to do a respectful portrait of this man

[Anonymous No.4630620]

>>4630614
I like the look overall, but the face looks a little long to me

[Anonymous No.4630940]

>>4630614
Why bother, he was a career criminal.

[Anonymous No.4631090]

>>4630259
Yeah the lack of cast shadow does seem odd now you say it. Cheers for the crit!

[Anonymous No.4631098]

i did a comic

[Anonymous No.4631099]

>>4631098

[Anonymous No.4631103]

>>4631099

[Anonymous No.4631106]

>>4631103

[Anonymous No.4631112]

>>4630940
a sheep must be led

[Anonymous No.4631118]

>>4624106
He looks so pissed. Like a crow shat in his nest or something

[Anonymous No.4631120]

>>4630434
Portugues ;)

[Anonymous No.4631168]

>>4631112
a gmi must draw

[Anonymous No.4631338]

earlier this year i signed up for this PRESENCIAL course so i could learn to draw but i only went to like 4-5 classes before lockdown. now they’re saying we’ll have the rest of the ~12 classes via a virtual classroom. should i just cancel? or am i being too dramatic? :/ i feel like virtual classes would work for digital drawing but not traditional drawing. help

[Anonymous No.4631348]

>>4631338
i'd cancel, fuck that get your money back

[Anonymous No.4631465]

>>4631120
eu sei caralho mas esse link vai dar a uma loja brasileira

[Anonymous No.4631507]

>>4603114
You don’t know what you’re talking about

[Anonymous No.4631750]

>>4630434
Sorry Instagram.com/c0rdeiro_2020

[Anonymous No.4631790]

>>4630940
America's Ned Kelly.

[Anonymous No.4631793]

3rd oil painting i'm doing. Bottom right will be a city burning, so the first girl is looking at down at the world burning, that's the idea...

I don't know how shit it is, it's simplistic i guess. The first dress is supposed to be white, turned out grey, grey on grey. What do you think?

[Anonymous No.4631805]

>>4631793
Its really cool, actually just like it is, could be seen as a work of contemporary art, but a tip, if you want to push the whites, you need to let it dry man

[Anonymous No.4633494]

Any book recommendations for someone starting with oils? I have a good background with digital, but I want to go into a medium with a little more challenge.

[Anonymous No.4633532]

>>4633494
Just see some tutorials on youtube, harold speed's book is also really good

[Anonymous No.4633619]

>>4612380
The one on the right is better

[Anonymous No.4634053]

having a ground is actually kind of awesome

[Anonymous No.4634946]

>>4633494
this >>4633532

Search Florent Farges on Youtube

[Anonymous No.4635424]

Gonna try again, went unnoticed and don't know why :/

Done on paper with ink pen and markers and I am very happy with the result.