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Women usually suck at other hobbies. There's very few good female amateur beat makers, programmers, gamers, rappers etc etc however, art twitter is FILLED with incredible female artists
Why's that ?

>> No.4595444
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shit wrong file i'm tired

>> No.4595463
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Aren’t foids capable of seeing a (slightly) wider array of colors than males? Also, it’s a very visual thing, so it makes sense for them to have interest in it, much like fashion or home decor.

>> No.4595465

>>4595440
because the workplace or hobby for that isn't viewed weird by others, so more people, more people means more chance of someone getting good at it and then more chance very few people to get extremely good at it

>> No.4595481

>>4595463
>it's a very visual thing
You have a point, but it makes less sense than fashion and home decor (those two hobbies take root in the instinct of wanting to appeal to her man and make the house comfy for him)

>>4595465
it isn't weird to grind vidya or making music nowadays

>> No.4595551

Women, being more attuned to complex emotions, have the highest capacity for both creativity and subtlety. This latter quality is especially very, very apparent in porn art. You see male artists, they have no sense of subtlety. They make grotesquely big tits, big dicks, exaggerated bodies, contorted poses, and everything as pushed out-of-proportion as it can possibly be while still retaining the barest minimum of sexual gratification. It's ham-fisted. They beat you over the head with it. Women artists have been raised embroiled in modesty and restraint. Even the ones in the modern lib hyperslutty culture know subconsciously that restraint is an inherently good quality. And they're very good at it. That's why it shows in their work.

>> No.4595561

>>4595440
Because women are better looked after and when you have a lack of survival pressure you can meet creative needs without stress and pressure.

The right question to ask is what is the income of the parents, male or female, what access to opportunities did they have, what was their quality of upbringing?

>> No.4595569

>>4595551
Let me summarize your post.
Men are very visual, women are more emotional, when it comes to eroticism.

I've seen way more subtlety, complexity and creativity in men's creations than women's, sexually men are straight to the point and that's intentional, you can't extrapolate from that, that men can't grasp complexity and subtlety.

>> No.4595614

>>4595481
>those two hobbies take root in the instinct of wanting to appeal to her man

I can guaran-TEE that no man gives a shit about throw rugs or what color a skirt is.

>> No.4595620

>>4595481
vidya, look at twitch. then look at competitive, specially smash and the girl case. girls go where they welcomed and money.

plenty of woman making music professionally, no?

>> No.4595634

>Women artists have been raised embroiled in modesty and restraint. Even the ones in the modern lib hyperslutty culture know subconsciously that restraint is an inherently good quality. And they're very good at it. That's why it shows in their work.
That is an interesting point.
Now i am curious to see that, can someone post a female nsfw artist?

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>>4595634
yuki yanagi

>> No.4595660

>>4595620
twitch femoid are usually not high ranked on their games (for example biggest fem league streamer is pokimane and she peaks platinum)
good female musicians are way more rare than male musicians (although there's a lot)

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>>4595648
Ah yes the modesty and restraint and subtlety of those panels

>> No.4595663
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>>4595634
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/3044978

>> No.4595698

>>4595663
>Talking about restraint
>Didn't post a bondage pic
You had one job.

But yes, I can certainly think of one example of a woman that defines thousands. Good thread, I look forward to beating off to all the porn in it later.

>> No.4595716

>>4595444
>generic anime girl
Why do you get impressed by the most mundane thing?

>> No.4595720

>>4595716
pyw beg

>> No.4595736

>lists predominately male hobbies
>wonders why there are so few female amateurs
I wonder about that too OP

>> No.4595741

>>4595440
They're also good at breeding.

>> No.4595745

>>4595736
i mean what are "female hobbies" ? makeup? cooking? the first one is pretty ridiculous and the second is full of males who do things better

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>>4595440
>That drawing
>incredible
also
>W*men
>Good
Pick one.

>> No.4595760

Scientist here. Women have a higher amount of estrogen which has been linked to an increased amount of creativity. Women also tend to be more "right brained" which favors creative and kinesthetic skills, but most importantly, intuition. Women also have a great blood count of the hormone oxytocin, linked to dedication of the development of things loved as opposite to the hard competition promoted by testosterone. That's why it is easier for them to draw, but that's not the main reason for their success online: being a woman automatically makes people want stuff from you, because we live in a world of cucks who will automatically throw more money at art the moment they learn it was made by a girl.

>> No.4595785

>>4595760
is intuition real?

>> No.4595808

>>4595785
Intuition is unconscious cognition that does not involve memory. This is the part of the human brain that AIs cannot replicate just yet.

>> No.4595812

>>4595481
>wanting to appeal to her man

Imagine believing this myth.

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>>4595745
>and the second is full of males who do things better
But you're more likely to see a good cook who is female than male, because there's still many more women than men who are interested in cooking and take up cooking classes. Is a good pianist suddenly not a good pianist because they didn't make a career out of it?
In terms of creative hobbies, things like clothing/cosplay, craftmaking, etc.
>make-up
Make-up as a hobby isn't necessarily just looking cute when you go out in public. There's a creative side to it, like pic related.

>> No.4595821

>>4595808
oh, ok. was thinking about other type of intuition. makes sense considering women is better at reading body messages intuitively

>> No.4595838

>>4595440
>Why are women good at drawing?
They aren't. There may be some women who can draw well, but there are barely any women who draw like masters.

>> No.4595839

>>4595481
>(those two hobbies take root in the instinct of wanting to appeal to her man and make the house comfy for him)
Who even still believes this kind of shit? Women take up interests that men don't like/don't care about all the time.

>> No.4595843

>>4595440
because men want to fuck them and compliment their work regardless of how shit it is

now get out you simp

>> No.4595853

>>4595843
/thread

>> No.4595856

>>4595838
Agreed. I've only met one in my life that draws and paints like a master. The rest were just dumbfucks that were content learning to replicate Tumblr and calarts style and left it at that.

>> No.4595874

>>4595838
Better off, the masters are overrated homos

>> No.4595897

>>4595551
lmao stfu foid

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>>4595874
if you aren't a gay man you're literally NGMI

>> No.4595918

>>4595760
shut the fuck up retard

>> No.4595932

>>4595918
Science proves you wrong.

>> No.4596010

>>4595440
>gamers
>rappers
You don't need skill for those

>> No.4596040

>>4595874
>the masters are overrated homos
u wish.

>> No.4596053

>>4595440
Just asked this very same question to a friend today, weird.

>> No.4596078

If you're a woman you can do anything and people will compliment you for it no matter how shit it is. It builds self-esteem and they have a looooot of free time to keep practising pointless things like drawing.

>> No.4596120

>>4596053
What did she reply?

>> No.4596302

>>4595839
I was addressing those two specific hobbies
I bet there's many that seem less obvious but you can all explain them with evolutionary perspective (just like you can explain men's btw)
cooking? it's because cavewomen would cook while caveman is hunting
gardening?
another quiet house activity whiches goal is to provide food
writing ?
comes from the emotional intelligence they developped instead of strenght (which makes them better mothers)

>> No.4597144

Selection bias. There are loads of people who are really good at drawing, so you can see the results of the other filters which select for traits other than actual skill. Because women are more popular (due to instinctive psychological bias, AKA the 'women are wonderful effect' and massive propaganda efforts to make women 'cool' by lefty media since the 1960s) they tend to be more well known compared to equally skilled male artists. So it seems like there are more great female artists because the male ones aren't seen as much. Also, since you are not immune to those innate psychological biases and propaganda, you probably have a subconscious preference for work you know was done by a female.

>> No.4597209

>>4596302
Evolutionary psychology is a joke within the sociology field for a reason because you can make shit up with little evidence, which is what you've been doing

>> No.4597654

>>4595551
>You see male artists, they have no sense of subtlety. They make grotesquely big tits, big dicks, exaggerated bodies, contorted poses, and everything as pushed out-of-proportion as it can possibly be while still retaining the barest minimum of sexual gratification.
And it's kino, Raita absolutely curbstomps all of /ic/

>> No.4597734

>>4595755
>anime
>tranny
>not seething

>> No.4597758

>>4597209
>Evolutionary psychology is a joke within the sociology field for a reason because you can make shit up with little evidence, which is what you've been doing
Evopsych is pretty much bullshit at the moment, but sociology has no high ground to look down on it from.

>> No.4598070

>>4595463
they are better at colors, but they suck at depth perception (and perspective)

>> No.4598072

>>4595440
they are girls (male)

>> No.4598085

>>4597734
>anime
>tranny
pick one

>> No.4598454

>>4595838
Barely any men who draw like masters either, to be fair. Mastery is simply rare.
>>4595856
Nice cognitive bias and anecdotes, fucko.

I don't know anything about predilection of women to be good artists, but two of my absolute favorite mangaka are female. Hiromu Arakawa and Ryoko Kui. They're not just outstanding character artists, they're exceptionally good writers among mangaka too. Out of all the really popular shonen series, Fullmetal Alchemist is one of the best in writing by far and the way she draws musculature makes me wet, man.

>> No.4598495

>>4598070
Yeah women have a very hard time with visual spatial thinking that's why they rearrange the living Room in their minds and then in practice it doesn't work because they can't see a depth of perspective like men can who would have to calculate trajectories ballistics angles in their minds for throwing spears and then you see that reflected in sports like football basketball baseball. Women can make an emotional feely peace but they can't do something along the lines of like Michael Angelo.

>> No.4598554

>>4598495
No wonder I fucking suck at perspective. It's cuz I'm a girl fuck..

>> No.4598741

>>4595551
>Women artists have been raised embroiled in modesty and restraint. Even the ones in the modern lib hyperslutty culture know subconsciously that restraint is an inherently good quality. And they're very good at it. That's why it shows in their work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb9M_k0SM-4

>> No.4598747

>>4598554
show feet

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speaking about female artists on twitter, can I shill these two?
They both have such cute aesthetics and nice art to me
https://twitter.com/DEATHMIDI/media
They post art a lot more than the other girl but they both have very appealing art
I love Midi's style so much
https://twitter.com/OliviaMeower/media
her art looks very nice imo too and she can color very well
i love them ack

>> No.4598800

>>4595440
There are no women artists better than their male counterparts you dumb fujo.

>> No.4598808

>>4598800
There are plenty of female artists better than male artists and vice versa. Don't put yourself along the likes of people like KJG because you happen to have a dick as well

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>>4595663
Based taste, this woman is crazy, she can make illustration of any body type, nice anime coloring and god tier animation as well. Too bad she rarely post anymore especially major porn. It seems she is busy in anime project. https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/70656210

>> No.4598885

>>4598808
There less successful female artists than male artists, and art is a meritocratic industry. End of story.

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>>4598885
>art
>meritocratic

>> No.4598920

>>4595444
>THOSE HANDS.
LMAO

>> No.4598923

>>4598905
It literally is. It’s one of the few trades where your portfolio is the only thing that matters. Don’t need a degree, your sex doesn’t matter, background, race, etc... if you haven’t made it’s simply cause you’re bot good enough and the other guy is better.

>> No.4598954

>>4598885
That doesn't disapprove what was said, do you know what you're even replying to?
>Don’t need a degree, your sex doesn’t matter, background, race, etc..
Kanye West can literally sell shitty basic t-shirts at a very inflated price and people pay for it just for his name alone. The art industry is no different.

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>>4598923
Ok

>> No.4598977

>>4598954
Kanye West’s success isn’t built on art though you idiot.

A studio isn’t going to hire Kanye West to design characters for their latest game/film no matter how famous he is.

>>4598966
>money laundering is art
Based idiot, it’s like you don’t even know how that whole industry works.

>> No.4598980

>>4595463
That isn't nearly enough to explain this.

>> No.4598996

>>4598977
>It’s one of the few trades where your portfolio is the only thing that matters.
You just contradict yourself retard. If art is really meritocratic, there will be no chance of art money laundering to ever happen in the first place

>> No.4598998

>>4598977
How do you miss the point this badly? Here's a more better example:

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/kanye-wests-high-school-art-antiques-roadshow

You think this is worth that much? You gonna argue that it's purely skill-based and has nothing to do with the fact that it's fucking Kanye?
>studio isn’t going to hire Kanye West to design characters for their latest game/film no matter how famous he is.
'featuring characters designed by Kanye West' is an excellent marketing point

>> No.4599000

>>4598996
Getting lucky on an illegal money laundering scheme is not the same as being successful you moron. That’s like saying all billionaires are people who won the lottery.

>> No.4599001

>>4598996
Art money laundering is not part of the proper art industry

>> No.4599004

>>4598998
Show me an example of a studio hiring Kanye or someone like him for a professional design project, go on. Famous people bragging about their lives for marketing purposes isn’t success, they’re already successful. Kanye could literally be selling piss bottles as an energy drink and it wouldn’t suddenly make him a chemist or nutritionist.

>> No.4599006

>>4598923
>where your portfolio is the only thing that matters.
and utilizing social media. and popularity. and the kind of things you create and how much pandering you do.

mediocre giantess furry diaper vore artist confirmed gud

>> No.4599011

>>4599006
That isn’t success. Mediocre coom artists aren’t suddenly as skilled as KJG because they’re reaching for low hanging fruit. You put then side by side, and everyone will agree KJG is better, it’s literally a meritocracy.

>> No.4599017

>>4599006
There’s plenty of very successful artists that don’t rely on porn or social media, in fact, it’s often the shitty ones that do, because they’re not good enough to get hired for a stable studio gig.

>> No.4599028

>>4599004
>Kanye could literally be selling piss bottles as an energy drink and it wouldn’t suddenly make him a chemist or nutritionist.
No, but he can decide to sell off his high school artwork and make more money as an artist than your art will ever make in a long time

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>>4599011
>>4599004
>he really think art have fixed standard like stem do
Please define what is ""proper"" Art industry really mean

>> No.4599051

>>4599028
>money is a measurement of skill
And we’re done here. Porn-addicted zoomers should be prohibited from posting on /ic/.

>> No.4599076

>>4599051
>talks about the art industry being a "meritocratic industry"
>denies the money aspect
Do you not know what the art industry is?

>> No.4599105

>>4599076
I do, you clearly don’t. Go back to bitching about how difficult art is while you dream of being a patreon whore zoomer-kun.

>> No.4599117

>>4599017
You don’t actually know how any of this works, do you?

>> No.4599120

>>4599105
>an industry that's about making money off your art
>success isn't about money bro
You genuinely don't know what you're talking about

>> No.4599133

>>4599117
>>4599120
>t. Zoomer dreaming of being a patreon whore, thinking anime porn is the pinnacle of art
I’m not even gonna bother arguing with you.

>> No.4599137

>>4599133
You show that strawman who’s boss, boomer.