/beg/ - Beginner thread

[Anonymous No.4595222]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make YOURSELF feel proud.

previous >>4593131

READ THE STICKY if you're new or need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

[Anonymous No.4595225]

>>4595222
Nice black washing, OP.

[Anonymous No.4595226]

Beginner video guides for those of us that can't into books:

[Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson] --> If you are a true beginner (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnjX3xR1-QU))
[The Natural Way to Draw by Kimon Nicolaides] --> If you have discipline (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFtNXEUmx5E)) SPOILER: you don't have discipline
[Foundations of Drawing - Will Kemp] (https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4729060))
[Foundations of Drawing: Light And Shadow - Will Kemp] (https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5043527))
[An Introduction to Drawing for Beginners - Chris Legaspi, Heather Lenefsky] https://mega.nz/#F!29clWAQa!t8Rn9afWytpW4HTuCXFFQg
[Ctrl+Paint.com - Matt Kohr] --> If you want to have a basis on Digital Art (https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library))
[The Art and Science of Drawing - Brent Eviston] https://mega.nz/#F!23JV1QKD!4j_RcWJUtVlLmg4bnPuReg
[Introduction to Drawing Systems - Myron Barnstone] (https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4905792))
[Drawing Fundamentals - David Malan]
[How to Draw Everything - Jake Parker]
[How to Draw - David Brody] --> If you are old fashioned (https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5160438))
[The Complete Painter: Lessons from the Masters - David Brody] --> If you are so old fashioned that you want to paint traditionally (https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5818260))
[How to Paint - Ricky Allman] --> If you want to paint more expressively (https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5671997))

[Anonymous No.4595235]

I assume this is done using digital yes?
If so how can I do this smooth transition in value and edges. Whenever I true smooth brush it looks ugly.
What techniques, tools, brushes should I be using especially for the left black and white one.
Thanks in advance ~

[Anonymous No.4595236]

>>4595226
Thank you bro.

[Anonymous No.4595237]

>>4595236
not mine tho, got it from our pals over at the video thread. Putting it here for easier access and in case someone asks for video guides during the thread.

[Anonymous No.4595244]

Does anyone here have more hobbies than just drawing? I really wanted to start drawing and I've had lots of fun so far, but after my daily piano practice I struggle to find the motivation to draw for multiple hours. It's fucking killing me inside because I know daily practice is necessary.

[Anonymous No.4595246]

Is this turning out okay? Something seems off to me.

[Anonymous No.4595249]

>>4595244
I make games for a hobby, drawing, animation, and music are like sub-hobbies to me.

[Anonymous No.4595253]

>>4595244
with corona, cooking, gaming, cards, chess, sculpting, writing, exercising

[Anonymous No.4595252]

what do you think .?

[Anonymous No.4595255]

I pre flipped the image and see if it comes out right, also i just noticed the problem with the eyes

[Anonymous No.4595267]

>>4595244
My main career path is programming but I'm doing a bit of drawing on the side so I have a bit of choice. I am afraid however that this'll make me a jack of all trades, rather than master of one.

[Anonymous No.4595268]

whatr d yiou thiunk ?

[Anonymous No.4595273]

>>4595246
crotch to high
tits look weird, specifically the one facing us, which both looks like its starting to high and isnt going in then out like tits actually do

>>4595268
ear to small and in the wrong place
i think its nice

[Anonymous No.4595276]

>>4595246
i'm beg too so i can't analyse it but i'll make a list of what looks weird

-the jaw corner, its supposed to join the ear
-eyes look asymmetrical
-eyebrows should be more expressive (shes supposed to be surprised right?)
-feet
-the tits don't fall naturally, i guess theyre floating but then nipples should b hgher
- the elbows are too
-rib cage shouldstick out more
-hair is weird, it should be more naturally spread (kind of like the earbuds cable)

its going to be a nice drawing if youre able to correct it tho !

[Anonymous No.4595278]

>>4595276
elbows are too low***
also hand

[Anonymous No.4595279]

>>4595268
Not bad! but I don’t know if the mistakes in that pic are because it’s a rushed drawing or because you didn’t notice.

[Anonymous No.4595288]

>>4595276
Thank you, I'll get to work!

[Anonymous No.4595295]

>>4595235
Easiest is to block it in then use a blur or smudge pen to get rid of the edges

[Anonymous No.4595305]

>>4595252
Looks good!

[Anonymous No.4595322]

The sticky seems to imply that I should have a pretty solid grasp of accurately drawing from life before moving onto other fundies, is this the case or am I misinterpreting? Im finding the whole sticky kind of confusing

[Anonymous No.4595324]

I'm pretty good at everything I do in life, except drawing. God do I suck at drawing.

[Anonymous No.4595325]

>>4595322
No one actually reads the sticky tho

[Anonymous No.4595327]

post your 15 sec gesture drawings

[Anonymous No.4595328]

>>4595244
Drawing is my only "serious" hobby and I'm still sub-beg level, I don't know how other fags manage to juggle their multiple hobbies when times flies so fast

[Anonymous No.4595334]

>>4595328

[Anonymous No.4595342]

>>4595325
But how will I learn how to... Learn..?

[Anonymous No.4595344]

>>4595295
Alright how is this ?

[Anonymous No.4595350]

is there any premade programs to get better when you're very beg? (but past drawabox level)
people always say to "loomis" and to use references but it feels very pointless and boring to just aimlessly practice

I just want to be able to draw convincing bodies and rooms (not necessarily perfectly accurate) so i can finally be pleased by what I draw

[Anonymous No.4595354]

>>4595350
loomis

[Anonymous No.4595362]

>>4595350
you need to use loomis until all you can do is potato faces, without a work posted we can't tell whats your level and where you are lacking, just like most posts that say'' how do i get better i already did x'' usually are just larping uber begs.

[Anonymous No.4595364]

>>4595268
Loomis

[Anonymous No.4595368]

>>4595244
Remember you're here forever

[Anonymous No.4595375]

A normal person has no incentive to give valid criticisms but a sociopath has all the reason in the world to crab on someone and give inapplicable advice.

[Anonymous No.4595376]

>>4595362
i meant has someone ever made a program (series of lessons) to learn better anatomy fast? for example day 1 legs day 2 hips day 3 hands, with clever references and tips
like an anatomy drawabox

[Anonymous No.4595380]

>>4595375
you need Loomis

[Anonymous No.4595381]

>>4595376
yes, if you want the anatomy do what you said

[Anonymous No.4595383]

>>4595376
nigger you probably cant draw a box let alone drawing any body part, you are a subhuman beg that should be ignored if ask for help without posting work.

[Anonymous No.4595384]

>>4595342
I don’t know, you try different methods until one works for you. I’ve watched the same YouTube turorials and only after a lot of drawing and rewatching them I actually understand what they’re talking about.

Ultimetely everything boils down to noticing your mistakes.

[Anonymous No.4595389]

I feel don't understand values with colors well

[Anonymous No.4595390]

>>4595389

[Anonymous No.4595391]

>>4595244
Yea, coding. I'm much better at coding than art despite spending far less time on it, which is annoying, since I enjoy art more.

>>4595267
>I am afraid however that this'll make me a jack of all trades, rather than master of one.
I also imagine this will be the case for me too.

[Anonymous No.4595397]

>>4595391
have you tried loomis?

[Anonymous No.4595398]

>>4595397
Yea, prefer villpu. Makes more sense to me.

[Anonymous No.4595403]

[Anonymous No.4595404]

[Anonymous No.4595412]

>>4595381
i guess i could make my own program but it wouldnt be as good and efficient as something an experienced artist would make right?

>>4595383
i'm not asking for help on specific mistakes i do atm, but since you're the second post complaining here's a trashy drawing

[Anonymous No.4595420]

>>4595412
anatomy is a life long quest to master, get any anatomy book to break it down for you in simpler shapes if you can't do it by looking reference photos

[Anonymous No.4595423]

>>4595389
The cloaked guy brandishing a knife with a spotlight behind him looks awesome
But I actually laughed at the dead guys half-painted feet

[Anonymous No.4595428]

>>4595222
Any good books for weebs?

[Anonymous No.4595430]

any glaring issues at the moment?

[Anonymous No.4595439]

>>4595244
I only have 2 hobbies Drawing and studying japanese, I feel like having more doesn't benefit me more because at the end I can't get good at anything when I focus on multiple hobbies

[Anonymous No.4595442]

A recent request I did in the /co/ drawthread. I really need to get better at hands.

[Anonymous No.4595443]

>>4595428
do u know how to draw a potato head?

[Anonymous No.4595447]

>>4595420
Is it necessary to ""master"" anatomy? I'd be fine by drawing decently with some mistakes, they're often unnoticeable for non-artists and don't ruin the overall piece

[Anonymous No.4595453]

>>4595447
Watch this
https://youtu.be/shgXNMIriaE

[Anonymous No.4595458]

>>4595364
>>4595380
>>4595397
>>4595443
Are you doing this because you've been told this advice before and you felt as though it was utterly useless?

[Anonymous No.4595462]

>>4595412
>i'm not asking for help on specific mistakes i do atm

this is why is important to post your work when you are asking that, just by looking at that pic im 100% sure that regardless of where you begin to study anatomy you are not going to get any noticeable results, your fundies are super beg.

[Anonymous No.4595469]

>>4595458
the contrary, if i found it useless why would i recommend it the same probably applies to everyone else recommending it too

[Anonymous No.4595480]

>>4595469
I'm only asking this because you've been replying to posts with only "loomis" even when it's not even relevant to some of the posts you're replying to.

[Anonymous No.4595485]

[Anonymous No.4595490]

>>4595462
oh i get it
but i don't really mind my lines being a little sloppy, it doesn't bother me when i look at my art
but it does bother me when i can't draw for shit the shape or pose i have in mind

[Anonymous No.4595505]

>>4595222
i read sticky and followed the proko video . i am proud . the head and eyes seem weird but i think i am ok :)

[Anonymous No.4595523]

>>4595244
I was gonna say piano but then I read the rest of your post

[Anonymous No.4595525]

do practiced straight lines really infer soul over perfect tool lines

[Anonymous No.4595540]

>>4595505
Your nose placement is off. The head is tilting so your lines to find the nose need to tilt at the same angle. Just follow the tilt of the face for any head you draw to place the features. I'm beg too so I can't help past that.

[Anonymous No.4595546]

>>4595376
Better think
year 1, year 2 ...
lol.

[Anonymous No.4595547]

>>4595540
i was thinking that was it. thank u fren

[Anonymous No.4595554]

>>4595443
Am I doing the loomeme right

[Anonymous No.4595562]

>>4595490
>>4595490
okay lets say that pic for absolute wrong as it is it's because is your first try at anatomy, if your fundies are not beg you should be able to understand the forms of anything if you have enough refs usually sides,up,down views you shouldn't have problems, almost if not all anatomy books got that, so it really doesnt matter where you begin as long as you can understand it.

[Anonymous No.4595563]

>>4595554
are you drawing circles or spheres?

[Anonymous No.4595574]

>>4595563
Circles... I’m trying to do atleast different shaped ones as the book every time. The bottom ones are meh. I’m happy with the oddly shaped one though.

[Anonymous No.4595579]

>>4593900
I'd like to thank you Anon for giving the only REAL piece of advice/critique I got from the last thread because most of the replies I got were other /beg/s trying to ridicule me to feel better about themselves and their sorry art. Again thank you so much Anon I hope you get to see this post.

[Anonymous No.4595583]

>>4595579
dont complain about (you)s ur lucky to even get a feedback

[Anonymous No.4595584]

>>4595579
holy cope of projections

[Anonymous No.4595588]

>>4595574
think sphere, if ur thinking circle u'll struggle a lot to rotate those faces

[Anonymous No.4595600]

>>4595579
Don't take it as personal anon, your art is not you.

[Anonymous No.4595607]

>>4595364
is it better ?

[Anonymous No.4595627]

>>4595607
I think there supposed to be more body in the left. But humans are weird.

[Anonymous No.4595635]

Quick little clothing study I did, does anyone have advice when it comes to drawing clothes? I spent more time doing anatomy than clothing so there’s a bit of a gap

[Anonymous No.4595646]

>>4595344
notbad imo, how does it look w/o the black outlines?

[Anonymous No.4595649]

>>4595635
>oof, there like some bulshit here and some lines here. Done
high level of sloppy and disregard,

[Anonymous No.4595652]

>>4595627
now that you say it, maybe the proportion were a bit off yeah

[Anonymous No.4595665]

[Anonymous No.4595672]

>>4595652
>where do you train
>at the library

[Anonymous No.4595677]

>>4595672
what?

[Anonymous No.4595679]

>>4595430
Is that a no?

[Anonymous No.4595687]

>>4595665
based cirno poster this is beautiful thanks for sharing

[Anonymous No.4595695]

>>4595677
He's saying the head is big
Looks fine to me desu

[Anonymous No.4595711]

>>4595430
Chicken scratch

[Anonymous No.4595732]

>>4595480
Loomis, look for it, read it and apply it because your construction (if any) is all over the place

[Anonymous No.4595737]

>>4595376
Hampton talks about a course outline in his first video

After each video he gives “homework” Related to each video/chapter of his analytical figure drawing book

[Anonymous No.4595743]

i have more shitty clowns if you guys wanna judge me again

[Anonymous No.4595769]

>>4595743
i'll prejudge it, more loomis, draw more, lack soul, fix that, clean it, learn value then color theory, better composition, ur design sucks, what even is that expression, wonky perspective.

check what u lack

[Anonymous No.4595780]

>>4595769
and chicken scratches.
composition and color theory are rarely /beg/ subject

[Anonymous No.4595804]

[Anonymous No.4595831]

>>4595804
Are you gonna expect any critiques from that?

[Anonymous No.4595835]

>>4595831
yes

[Anonymous No.4595844]

Am I beginning to feel the forms?

[Anonymous No.4595846]

>>4595835
give us the underline construction

[Anonymous No.4595847]

>>4595646
thanks, Here you go

[Anonymous No.4595855]

>>4595846

[Anonymous No.4595857]

>>4595403
>>4595404
Back to /asg/

[Anonymous No.4595866]

>>4595855
more loomis

[Anonymous No.4595873]

>>4595222
How is it? I've been drawing for like two years or so, but I'm thinking of taking it more seriously now.

[Anonymous No.4595881]

>>4595873
Oh my...

[Anonymous No.4595882]

>>4595866
this one

[Anonymous No.4595885]

>>4595873
What is it with shitters and front-facing vaginas? How have you not seen what a vagina looks like at this point?

[Anonymous No.4595888]

>>4595882
no, the potato heads

[Anonymous No.4595896]

>>4595888

[Anonymous No.4595898]

>>4595888
like this??

[Anonymous No.4595904]

>>4595885
I guess I still have some symbol drawing issues.

[Anonymous No.4595909]

>>4595896
no, fun with pencil, first 20 or so pages

[Anonymous No.4595921]

>>4595909
but when do we get to draw ol cirno

[Anonymous No.4595924]

>>4595921
she is the potato head

[Anonymous No.4595929]

>>4595924
can i get an example please

[Anonymous No.4595934]

>>4595921
yes

[Anonymous No.4595935]

>>4595711
chicken scratch is fine for an initial sketch

[Anonymous No.4595940]

>>4595929

[Anonymous No.4595951]

>>4595940
we don't have to put the crazy details or can it just be a sphere

[Anonymous No.4595954]

>>4595935
My final lines are still shitty so that's a valid thing for anon to bring up

[Anonymous No.4595957]

>>4595951
bruh, 2 crosses aren't crazy details, but ok. do whatever u want, i dont care

[Anonymous No.4595961]

>>4595957
then why do you hide the secrets

[Anonymous No.4595962]

>>4595222
Doodled this today after completing a observational study of a few peppers, I think it's kinda cute but the eyes are fuqqed

[Anonymous No.4595970]

How is it? I've been drawing for like two years or so, but I'm thinking of taking it more seriously now.

[Anonymous No.4595974]

>>4595970
is this south park?

[Anonymous No.4595977]

>>4595769
Here you go have some more looman judge me

[Anonymous No.4595982]

>>4595977
try to feel the form while at it

[Anonymous No.4595987]

Can someone briefly explain what those curved lines I see in sketches are for (I think they're called contour lines?)

[Anonymous No.4595988]

>>4595982
we'll have to firmly grasp it

[Anonymous No.4595990]

>>4595987
depends. it either part of construction to put thing together and alight things to. or further form defining to get hold on it, or wanabe meme.

[Anonymous No.4595994]

>>4595962
flip your canvas lol

[Anonymous No.4595996]

What's a good pencil or brush to recreate retro anime lineart for ClipStudio Paint or Medibang?

[Anonymous No.4595997]

How much soul does this pic have, /beg/?

[Anonymous No.4596003]

>>4595962
please don't feel too bad though she looks pretty cute, I like it

[Anonymous No.4596006]

>>4595996
lineart is the least of ur worry, focus on color used, design and filter that makes it retro like

[Anonymous No.4596007]

How do I use the rest of my arm to draw?
I've mostly been trying to do things on my tablet (Wacom Intuos) because I only own mechanical pencils and notebook paper, but I can only like, move my fingertips when I'm trying to hold a pencil and actually using my wrist or my whole arm to draw feels strange and awkward.
I'm looking at all these people drawing all their forms and shapes and stuff and connecting them together to make whole faces and bodies while I can barely draw an even square or remotely round circle.

I mean, my handwriting is barely legible, so I feel like I have a lot of work to do just penmanship in general, hell, should I maybe even learn an entirely different way to hold a pencil?
I have triangle grips on my mechanical pencils and have it resting on the side of my middle finger while I hold it with the tip of my thumb and index finger, is that bad?

Or should I just give up and accept that I just never learned how to even write legibly because all my work outside of the very very occasional exam that requires handwriting or notes that I take in class but never actually read, because simply writing things down helps me to remember it better even if I never look at my notes, and outside of that I use a keyboard for practically all communication in my life.

[Anonymous No.4596012]

>>4595222
So the other day I decided to go through the /ic/ archives, looking at progress charts threads from 2018-2020, what I found was every artist that got good quickly stated that they commonly did studies of artists they like.
That's the key to getting good, doing copies of artists you like, even copying their basic sketches to get a feel. I did one today and my sketches got way fucking better.
I mean ya still gotta do the basic fundies grind but make sure to do studies of artists you like in between, also have an inspo chart of artists you want to replicate is a good idea.

[Anonymous No.4596017]

>>4595994
LMAOOO, well shit thanks for the laugh
>>4596003
ty :)

[Anonymous No.4596019]

>>4595990
I saw a video and it showed how it helps with showing 3D space. What do you do after the lines are drawn?

[Anonymous No.4596020]

>>4595940
it's still the same!!

[Anonymous No.4596032]

>>4596020
gj, now move that face up, down, left and right

[Anonymous No.4596043]

>>4596019
qustion kind of stunned me. As I said there all kind of whatever lines. There not part of picture but guides you put for yourself if necessary to do something. After you put them you do thing you put them for.
You doing making picture maybe?

[Anonymous No.4596046]

>>4596012
Well, I like Miyazaki, Toriyama, Rei Hiroe and Kenichi Sonoda, but I don't necessarily want to just draw retro looking anime style art.

The only Western artist I really know by name are Mike Mignola, Dave Gibbons and John Blanche, and Dave Gibbons is kind of the same problem of being retro looking comic style art and I wouldn't even know where to start imitating the stuff Mignola and Blanche draw.

[Anonymous No.4596050]

>>4596043
see my brain can't even speak from overload.

[Anonymous No.4596068]

>>4596019
I've literally never heard this question before.
...you draw more. The lines are there to help as guidelines for the rest of the drawing.

[Anonymous No.4596082]

how's legs now?

[Anonymous No.4596094]

>>4596019
In other words. if you do not know why you draw some sort of lines then you not need them.
or it become wannabe meme case

[Anonymous No.4596095]

>>4596068
I don't know much about techniques as I am new and I've been drawing people mostly. I guess my question was once the lines are drawn to show the 3D elements, what should one do next to make it more realistic?

I'm guessing shading comes next which I don't know much about yet.

[Anonymous No.4596098]

>>4595252
>>4595268
good, are these from life?
>>4595607
looks good

I can never get past the sketch phase. where should I take this and what can I fix?

[Anonymous No.4596113]

>>4596098
clean it.
if you cant imagine how you want it looks like find a picture that looks like what you want that looks like and make it looks like that,

[Anonymous No.4596118]

>>4596095
You use the lines to help you place other features in a way that they follow the form and look 3d. For example if you draw a curved horizontal line on the face to represent the curvature of the face, you can then place eyes that follow that curve so that the eyes look like they are on a sphere instead of a flat surface

[Anonymous No.4596150]

self portrait, looking for advice on how to construct the planes of the face, especially off a loomis head

[Anonymous No.4596166]

I edits this meme (to describe myself) instead of drawing

[Anonymous No.4596172]

>>4596082
her left leg is broken

[Anonymous No.4596179]

pp birb

[Anonymous No.4596181]

>>4596166
just draw retard, I doubt your drawings are worse than your shitty memes

[Anonymous No.4596184]

>>4596150
Unfortunately planes of the face and Loomis head don't really mix. Try the reily method with the planes of the face.

[Anonymous No.4596185]

>>4596166
Kek. You really should draw though.

[Anonymous No.4596186]

>>4596166
Very funny. Go back to drawing though

[Anonymous No.4596190]

>>4596184
this statement have no sense

[Anonymous No.4596192]

feels like i lost most of the energy from the ref. finding it difficult to keep the poses from looking stiff, even when drawing from reference. is the solution to just do more gestures?

[Anonymous No.4596193]

>>4596192
ref

[Anonymous No.4596227]

[Anonymous No.4596234]

>>4596007
Please, anyone

[Anonymous No.4596245]

>>4596007
>>4596234
Just practice drawing a circle over and over until it looks like a circle to you. I believe in you.

[Anonymous No.4596250]

>>4596245
Should I really try using more of my arm than just my fingers?
Should I try for fast or slow in drawing it? Which is better?

[Anonymous No.4596253]

>>4595222
i made this inspire by Akumetsu manga, please give me feedbacks

[Anonymous No.4596254]

>>4596007
>>4596234
i was having the same issue a while ago coming from a background of mostly doodling in notebooks in grade school which was done entirely with my wrist. my handwriting is garbage also. the thing is it's entirely how trained your muscle is, its going to feel awkward and lines will feel not good or smooth, but eventually it will feel more natural. you just gotta keep doing it until its part of your muscle memory, its the same as if you were to try to learn to write with the opposite hand, its not like you dont know how to write, the muscle just isnt used to fine movements. i actually do hold my pencil slightly differently when drawing as well but i think thats less important as long as youre doing the major movements with your arm

>>4596250
you definitely should be using arm and not fingers if you value not having carpal tunnel in ten years. you should aim for speed and confidence but that comes with time, so dont be worried about speed very much

[Anonymous No.4596258]

>>4596184

[Anonymous No.4596260]

how fucked are the values bros

[Anonymous No.4596273]

Doing some self crit here a few hours after this sketch, wondering if I can get some other stuff that I missed? I'm surprised I did the whole front facing vagina thing, but I will admit that I just never draw vaginas or anything.

[Anonymous No.4596280]

>>4596260
Find a better reference you nigger

[Anonymous No.4596296]

>>4596260
16

not most convenient for you.
if you want to continue -desaturate her and compare values you choose with what is going on,

[Anonymous No.4596298]

>>4596280
haha ur cool and edgy

[Anonymous No.4596307]

>>4596296
>>4596280
how many different values should I be using? Did I use too few or am I supposed to use a few and then blend them?

[Anonymous No.4596314]

>>4596260

[Anonymous No.4596319]

>>4596307
I assume result mast be similar in values to original photo. in that case problem is not amount you can use whatever but contrast and "value of value" is all over the place. Otherwise have no idea what you are doing but continue.

[Anonymous No.4596320]

>>4596314
Your brush size is too small so you are focusing on the details
Break it down by values use a big brush
Google "heavy paint app" and look at those examples

[Anonymous No.4596321]

>>4596320
Examples

[Anonymous No.4596322]

>>4596320
Im not >>4596260
And yes what you said is correct, the anon should had just distilled it to like 4 values and work on that and used a bigger brush.

[Anonymous No.4596333]

>be digital art shitter
>sketching a figure
>doesn't look right
>use transform/deform tool to stretch it
>set to transparent and draw over

Am I learning or just kneecapping myself

[Anonymous No.4596334]

Lord help me, I’m doing the shota shit again.

[Anonymous No.4596340]

>>4596333
Kneecapping hard
Do you wanna be a better drawer or just want a pretty picture

[Anonymous No.4596341]

>>4596254
Are there any good exercises for learning to draw with the whole arm more?
I mostly just move my arm to continue writing words or to move to a different part of the page, it feels so unnatural trying to incorporate that movement into actual drawing.

[Anonymous No.4596342]

>>4596334
doesn't look that shota like to me. to make him look older, maybe give him smaller eyes, or move up eyes? shota to me has a lot to do with eye and head proportions. but i dont know much

[Anonymous No.4596343]

>>4596333
You 1) saw that it's wrong, 2) made it better. The rest is just saving time.

[Anonymous No.4596344]

I don't know what to draw or what to practice.
Help

[Anonymous No.4596350]

>>4596344
read the sticky

[Anonymous No.4596351]

>>4596343
>>4596340
This is the part that conflicts me. On one hand, I know what looks wrong and know what looks better. But it's a very laborious process and Im depending on the software so I dont know if I'm learning much. I Draw, it's wrong, use software to skew the figure to something that looks better. Draw over it. It looks wrong. Skew the new layer. Draw over that... For my drawings I do this 3-4 times.

[Anonymous No.4596360]

>>4596351
That means you can't draw what is in your mind yet that means more practice
Again
What is your ultimate goal
Be a better artist or just want a result at the end
If you want to be a better artist you gotta fix the issue of drawing it wrong at the beginning

[Anonymous No.4596370]

>>4596253
col

[Anonymous No.4596371]

tfw you love drawing but everyone hates your work.

[Anonymous No.4596372]

>>4596360
>What is your ultimate goal? Be a better artist or just want a result at the end

I want to draw cute anime people. I'm all for "tools, not rules", BUT at the same time I want a solid enough skill foundation that I can efficiently and quickly create appealing art from imagination only. Right now I'm a shitter and it takes me 5 hours of drawing the same thing over and over through iteration after iteration, to produce a stiff character in a simple pose even with using software to manipulate layers.

[Anonymous No.4596375]

>>4596350
I read it before and skimmed through it now. I still don't know what i should do to practice.

[Anonymous No.4596379]

>>4596372
5 hours for a drawing is way too long imo
Not shitting on you because you can always improve but for sure you have an issue. And before anyone jumps in, how long it takes you to draw something does matter. A sketch of something ..a dog let's say shouldnt take 30 mins if you are going to reline it with pen and paint it etc Hope that makes sense
Same goes for ditigal art, your sketch should be really quick lining it should take way longer but not 5 hours long and after you gotta add color etc etc
If you drawing something super detailed I get it but a normal drawing should take reasonable time to draw something else after :)
Just do your fundementals and studies to improve your basic drawing skills to be faster and better

[Anonymous No.4596383]

>>4596375
the upside down stravinsky and don't comeback until you finish it then post it here

[Anonymous No.4596398]

>>4595244
take photos, become fluent in composition, minimize work in artwork.

[Anonymous No.4596403]

>>4595244
I play video games, learn japanese and draw.
I'm fairly skilled in japanese my only problems being that I'm slow, and I run into words I don't know now and again.

[Anonymous No.4596404]

>>4596379
>5 hours for a drawing is way too long imo
how you can say it if you have no idea what he call drawing and what he drawing?

[Anonymous No.4596417]

>>4596379
>5 hours for a drawing is way too long
Yeah I know. But I'm too much of a beg shitter to learn proper figure/gesture drawing. Any time I follow a gesture/figure drawing book or video series, I totally am lost by the 2nd exercise. So I fall for the "just draw" meme and hope I see progress sometime by the year 2025.

[Anonymous No.4596419]

>>4596320
>>4596322
>>4596296
I think I got a bit better thanks bros gonna practice more tomorrow

[Anonymous No.4596425]

>>4595222
I'm trying to go for the ww1 version of warhammer fantasy, what can I change to help fit that better?

[Anonymous No.4596439]

>>4596184
>>4596258
Thanks, this is exactly what I mean. Hoe do I go from Loomis measirements to basic planes? Something like Reilly's abstraction would be great. E.g. how do I know where to place the eye in a 3/4 view?

[Anonymous No.4596446]

>>4596439
The page is from Loomis read the section and memorize the planes there are plates showing the face and planes from different angles

[Anonymous No.4596450]

>>4596020
This is something called Texas Sharpshooting. What you've essentially done is shoot a bunch of holes in the side of a barn and then drawn targets around them so you can brag to your friends about how good of a shot you were. It *looks* like that but your goals, or details in this case, were so vaguely defined that of course it's going to fit. Be more ambitious.

[Anonymous No.4596456]

>>4596446
No I know it's from Loomis, my question is what indicators to memorize so I can go from a basic Loomis head to a Loomis planes head.

[Anonymous No.4596461]

>>4596172
Elaborate

[Anonymous No.4596469]

Drew this after lying in bed whining about how I'm ngmi for like an hour.
I didn't realise how scratchy my shading was.

[Anonymous No.4596471]

I'm trying to make an animation of someone throwing an object, does my basic motion look ok before I draw the rest of it?

[Anonymous No.4596474]

>>4596469
resised

[Anonymous No.4596481]

I heard about automatic drawing for the first time and decided to try it. At one point I started drawing hands as is still very hard for me to get them right.
Anything I should address?

[Anonymous No.4596485]

>>4596471
I think that hold is too long

[Anonymous No.4596490]

>>4596481
Scientific here. Automatic drawing is actually an excellent technique so you develop unconscious artistic skills. And you might ask "how can one have unconscious skills" and the answer yes, the nervous system is divided in 2, the central and the peripheral one, the peripheral one (on which the so called muscle memory is built) can work almost by itself if no conscious thought is enabled. The automatic drawing mimicks a situation where no conscious intent of drawing exists and the intuitive part of the brain is given total freedom. Keep at it faggot, you'll see the magic soon enough.

[Anonymous No.4596492]

*scientist lol, fucking phone

[Anonymous No.4596499]

Started playing Sekiro so I got inspired to do some samurai studies. I stopped drawing for about 2 months because it all felt pointless but I watched a video by Adam Duff LUCIDPIXUL and it really motivated me to get back to drawing :)

[Anonymous No.4596503]

>>4596471
Both arms are longer at some frames. It kinda looks like it is bowling so you may reference from that. Continuity in a frame by frame animation can be hard to achieve at first but keep at it.

[Anonymous No.4596540]

>>4595635
the anatomy still looks bad

[Anonymous No.4596559]

>>4595997
none, coomer art is always soulless

[Anonymous No.4596566]

>>4596559
Cope

[Anonymous No.4596590]

>>4596341
well I don't think there is an exercise for that except just draw bro

[Anonymous No.4596633]

>>4596566
Dilate

[Anonymous No.4596722]

>>4595255
Cute work. Do you mind sharing the reference?

[Anonymous No.4596729]

>>4596417
how did you first learned math? by just counting and stumbling with to add, subtract, multiply and divide by sheer luck, imagine how long it would take for someone to get at the basic level of math, same thing for drawing. but its your time, not mine, do wtver u want.

[Anonymous No.4596731]

>>4596371
I have a similar experience. I like drawing. When I post my work I get made fun of. When I describe my drawing process I get made fun of. Everything I draw looks horrible and I dont see improvement. 99.999% of /ic/ is better than me by miles. I see some artists capable of doing 5 colored drawings in the time it takes me to finish a sketch. ... But I actually look forward to drawing when I get out of bed. So I can't stop. Even though it is suffering.

[Anonymous No.4596733]

>>4596098
>where should I take this and what can I fix?
what is your goal?

[Anonymous No.4596751]

>>4595391
>>4595267
My niggas. I'm the same. I'm already at a high paying job but it sucks the life out of me. I initially chose an art degree but moved to a more development oriented course. I consider it a smart decision in case I fail but damn does it make me miserable. A well drawn art gives me better feelings than a well written code.

Lesson we have here bros is to follow your heart and not where you're good at.

[Anonymous No.4596768]

tfw you try to draw spess marine but have no idea wtf is going on with the power pack and collar/

[Anonymous No.4596770]

Doing heads, I had trouble with the second one, I don't know how to do eyes from that angle that well.

[Anonymous No.4596772]

>>4596770
copy diathorn if possible, you'll see massive gains

[Anonymous No.4596774]

>>4596768
>he is not wearing his helmet
You messed up big time

[Anonymous No.4596776]

>>4596751
Save up a shit ton of money and leave the job some day for art time

[Anonymous No.4596777]

>>4596768
More like special marines

[Anonymous No.4596779]

>>4596774
space marines without helmets are known characters that live longer.

[Anonymous No.4596789]

>>4596192
she looks black

[Anonymous No.4596795]

First time using graphite in like 6 months. I didnt realize how hard it is to erase especially in the hair. Im carried by the ease of charcoal now

[Anonymous No.4596803]

[Anonymous No.4596804]

[Anonymous No.4596806]

[Anonymous No.4596808]

>>4596803
>>4596804
>>4596806
/asg/
stuck in 3/4 mode?

[Anonymous No.4596821]

>>4596808
>/asg/
every time I post there they send me back here

>stuck in 3/4 mode?
I am trying out different styles, so keeping the same pose makes it easier to compare.

[Anonymous No.4596826]

>>4596821
They send you back here? Most artists there suck dick ngl kinda weird.

[Anonymous No.4596828]

>>4596821
why people on beg are so stuck up on style?

[Anonymous No.4596832]

>>4596828
>people on beg
like two of them?

[Anonymous No.4596834]

>>4596828
beginners don't know what they don't know. they notice they make unappealing art and incorrectly deduce it is because they have not picked a style.

[Anonymous No.4596835]

>>4596832
they are people, no?

[Anonymous No.4596838]

I blame Sycra

[Anonymous No.4596845]

[Anonymous No.4596847]

>>4596845
doing right side of the brain?

[Anonymous No.4596849]

>>4596845
You so funny.

[Anonymous No.4596852]

>>4596847
yeah
my drawing looked really good upside down lol

[Anonymous No.4596854]

If I try drawing while tired I end up unable to draw the most basic things. Is that normal?

[Anonymous No.4596855]

>>4596834
Not him but one of the critiques that I've been given was that my style was just not appealing, not that it's the only criticism, but you can understand the thought process one may have if they've been told that.

[Anonymous No.4596858]

>>4596852
yeah, don't worry about it looking good. you're getting some good knowledge of how to look at things. the make it right will come later when you learn how a face is structured

[Anonymous No.4596862]

>>4596858
cool

[Anonymous No.4596875]

Is this peak beg?

[Anonymous No.4596912]

>>4596845
>>4596852
Do it again, this time try to sketch out the gesture of the entire head in as few lines as possible. Big, sweeping, confident lines that define the outer bounds of it. Turn it rightside up and check, then back upside down and fix it if it isn't right. Then do the same but use your big gesture lines to map the features of the face. Repeat, going from big detail to small detail. Try this a few times.

[Anonymous No.4596918]

>>4596912
k

[Anonymous No.4596944]

>>4596772
Wow, I love his art

[Anonymous No.4596961]

Dynamic Sketching or Draw a Box?

[Anonymous No.4596966]

>>4596961
same thing, first is more complete

[Anonymous No.4596971]

>>4596961
Dynamic box sketching

[Anonymous No.4596986]

>>4596826
well, I am beg so they are not wrong

>>4596828
I am doing it for fun, I can't keep a consistent style nor draw on model anyway.

[Anonymous No.4597004]

>>4596854
nope
are you old or something. some decline in ability is expected depending on how tired but 'literally can't do the basic shit' is not

also just to be sure, you can post 3d art here for feedback too yea? what can't you post? extreme gore? outright sex? im pretty sure gore is a no-go, but where do you post that?

[Anonymous No.4597010]

[Anonymous No.4597038]

Sorry for blogposting, but I've been trying and failing to get into digital art for around twelve years. I got a new tablet to try again, played around with Sai2's brushes, and the artistic pencil brush is so close to drawing with an actual pencil that I'm able to draw as if I were doing it on paper. I was smiling the entire time I was drawing on a digital canvas.

Feels good man, feels good.

[Anonymous No.4597040]

>>4597038
12 years of failing getting into digital art, you should contact guinnes world records

[Anonymous No.4597041]

>>4597038
which tablet do you have?

[Anonymous No.4597047]

>>4597038
buying an expensive golf club doesn't improve your swing

[Anonymous No.4597049]

>>4597038
were you really trying if it took 12 years to feel good
like i tend to improve at what feels like a decent pace when i try... but then i start making excuses to skip days. too tired after work, ill do something else instead, etc. and then i look back and its been months and ive barely improved at all, because even if i was 'getting' stuff pretty fast when i was working on it, the fact is i barely worked on it for most of that time
i really wish i had any real goal to motivate me beyond the vague idea of 'im bored may aswell work on art'

[Anonymous No.4597055]

>>4597040
Well it was mainly on and off. I saved my pocket money to get the first Wacom Bamboo and my lineart always looked atrocious, I could never replicate pencil and paper sketches on a digital canvas.

>>4597041
I have a bit more time to sink into art and I just finished a big life achievement so I treated myself to the Huion Kamvas 13 2020. Some hiccups at the start and it doesn't work well with older versions of Sai, but it's a dream with Sai2.

>>4597047
I never really mentioned expense, I like the brush on a program that can be downloaded and used for free. I could never really find a way to replicate how I sketch digitally and the brush is a massive help.

[Anonymous No.4597061]

>>4597055
sounds good anon, the kamvas series is solid. keep at it, try and draw something every day even if it's just a quick 30 minutes. experiment with brush settings and delve into the options in sai2, learn what everything does through experience and have fun with it. don't be afraid to make mistakes, save everything you do and look back on it to see your improvement.

[Anonymous No.4597065]

>>4595249
How to start making games?

[Anonymous No.4597083]

>>4597010
This Feels like an arts and crafts project a teacher would do for a student who was too young to paint
Very soulful

[Anonymous No.4597090]

>>4596417
>>Yeah I know. But I'm too much of a beg shitter to learn proper figure/gesture drawing.
Man that makes no sense. You literally just find out how many X's is in Y, open sketchdaily or similar and draw. Its even fun. And if you can't figure out how to do shit, you screencap and post it here, or watch a guide. For me personally I tend to immediately start counting heads when the figures come up.
This also has the added advantage of having you actually draw men instead of literally only knowing how to spend half a day drawing a single cute anime girl that's probably not even as cute as Asuka, Rei or any other actually cute anime girl.

[Anonymous No.4597094]

>>4596481
>>4596490
>Look this up
>They're all literally just scribbling random shit, peoples names in graffiti tier
I don't get it

[Anonymous No.4597095]

>>4597090
I-I dont draw females though

[Anonymous No.4597099]

>>4597095
Same dif if its anime, anime boys don't have male bodies, they have girls bodies with 1 inch wider shoulders and no ass

[Anonymous No.4597106]

wich one is way to go?

[Anonymous No.4597109]

>>4597106
2

[Anonymous No.4597115]

>>4597106
right looks anatomically feasible at least

[Anonymous No.4597116]

>>4597099
Uh ok

[Anonymous No.4597121]

>>4597065
You download Unity or Unreal and try your best making prototypes of old games.
Any other engine is a meme and both Unity and Unreal have their pros and cons so it really doesn't matter which one you chose.
Unity is good and getting you quick into making games but it has its stigma.
After that you should try recreating 1 classic game every week, wrap up project, and abandon it (or release it for free if you actually didn't use that classic game's assets)
When you reach the 4-5 weeks you are probably good enough to understand how programming kinda works and you should get started into making your own week long prototypes and remain there until you either hit gold or get an idea for big ass game you want to pursue.

also don't go to /agdg/ they will crab you to death

[Anonymous No.4597235]

wdyt ?

[Anonymous No.4597240]

>>4597235
Very good, anon. A little angular, but I’ll chalk that up to stylistic choice. Although the shadows seem to cut off his back a little too early.

[Anonymous No.4597241]

>>4596166
Kek, keep making memes but focus on drawing.

[Anonymous No.4597264]

I think this is my best drawing until now

[Anonymous No.4597272]

>>4596795
very nice. General's graphite?

[Anonymous No.4597278]

>>4597264
>this is my best drawing
Apply yourself.

[Anonymous No.4597290]

>have to go back to work in 2 weeks
>going to lose 70% of the time and motivation i've had during quarantine
>won't ever git gud

[Anonymous No.4597295]

>>4597290
good luck out there anon, may the rng be at your side

[Anonymous No.4597299]

>>4597295
my brother. i'll pray to the gods

[Anonymous No.4597301]

>>4597278
What ?

[Anonymous No.4597305]

>>4597301
he's saying it's bad so do better

[Anonymous No.4597312]

>>4597305
i have a lot to learn yet, this is only my sixth drawing

[Anonymous No.4597322]

Beg having struggles improving here
I've already done a few exercises in drawing on the right side but I'm unsure if I've learned the "r-mode" thing the author is trying to teach me. I think i can already think like that because i don't copy better when looking at the picasso upside-down. Should i stay away from that book if i can already do that?
Also, is drawabox a good idea for someone who's almost as /beg/ as you can get?

[Anonymous No.4597323]

>>4597241
Tfw a meme is the most amount of yous ive ever gotten in beg

[Anonymous No.4597327]

>>4597312
Tfw your sixth drawing is better than Anything ive drawn and ive been drawing for six months

[Anonymous No.4597336]

>>4596098
I love this one. The unfinished sketch look with detailed face and roughly blocked out body/hair is an interesting style, something you could work with and take further. Quite a few artists do similar things with geometric shapes or merging people with backgrounds in interesting ways. Art should be fun, experiment with it.

[Anonymous No.4597337]

I can't do it bros

[Anonymous No.4597341]

[Anonymous No.4597342]

>>4597322
another /beg/ here, I started draw a box and still plan on finishing it, (only stopped because I've been busy with work, the lessons have been pretty fun) I would definitely recommend it if you don't have a clue how to start, it taught me line quality, some form, and some construction so far and it's at least given me an idea of how to draw things

like I drew this gun without looking at any tutorials (the proportions are really bad and you can tell where I just sort of scribbled because I didn't know what to draw, I still haven't really grasped how to do that stuff yet)

[Anonymous No.4597343]

>>4597337
looks good, just need to practice hands and work on the legs a bit (upper legs especially). I like the hair.

[Anonymous No.4597352]

>>4597327
I watch a lot of speed paintings while trying to understand how my favorite artists draw, that is making me improve a lot with each drawing

[Anonymous No.4597372]

I want to get a better understanding of basic shapes in 3d space so I can improve my construction. I'm planning on doing drawabox and perspective made easy.
Would those be good choices, or are there better options available?

[Anonymous No.4597374]

>>4597342
Alright thanks man. I'll get some fineliners and get to it then. And good luck to you.

[Anonymous No.4597375]

>>4596733
>what is your goal?
wrt that sketch nothing really, I just wanted to warm up because I haven’t drawn in a while. now I’m thinking I want to either fix or redo it and use references this time
>>4597336
thank you! when I get home tonight I’m going to try some more and have fun with it

[Anonymous No.4597401]

>>4597352
pyw

[Anonymous No.4597410]

>>4596804
I really like this one, cute style

[Anonymous No.4597421]

Do you love what you draw or it will always feel like chasing yourself?

[Anonymous No.4597426]

>>4597401

> >>4597264

[Anonymous No.4597432]

I'm studying skulls, tried to draw this one from memory. Critiques please.

[Anonymous No.4597441]

new
>>4597439
>>4597439
>>4597439

[Anonymous No.4597442]

>>4597432
very good. any other work you’d care to share?

[Anonymous No.4597450]

>>4597442
I did this too.

[Anonymous No.4597473]

>>4597450
beautiful. I’m not really good enough to give a proper critique and can’t immediately see anything wrong that stands out to me but keep going

[Anonymous No.4598356]

Is it wrong to use a ruler when doing 'Perspective Made Easy?' Like, when drawing the line across the centre of the page to mark the horizon?

[Anonymous No.4598697]

>>4597375
please post more when you do!

[Anonymous No.4599618]

Trying to land on a viable style of drawing very quickly. Any feedback on this uggo?